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Speaker 3: It out exactly, send it all the media out let's

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Speaker 3: so you wouldn't believe what Jake I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 2: Believe what Jake said about.

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Speaker 3: Your buzz sound you get it? Joke had it.

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Speaker 2: So right there, give me a test testing So you go, beautiful,

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Speaker 2: We're on, We're on.

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Speaker 3: Is this thing on? One? Two? One too?

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Speaker 2: Check one too. We'll just go from me anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Jake. Thanks for being here, man, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having us. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a good bloke.

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Speaker 3: Oftentimes when people come here so you venture over this

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Speaker 3: part of the world much. But for you just down

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Speaker 3: the road, tough dry five minutes mate.

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Speaker 2: You're living at worry Wood, n Yeah, that's where the

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Speaker 2: surfers are. He's right, really yeah? Yeah? Do you get

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Speaker 2: out there much, Jake? Do you get out the back?

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Speaker 2: Are you very buoyant?

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Speaker 1: Actually, believe it or not, we went surfing in the

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Speaker 2: Oh actually, all right, well you get up yeah? Really,

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Speaker 2: maybe you miss your calling? Are you a good swimmer?

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Speaker 1: Are used to be until I got, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that had to be dragged dragged through the water.

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Speaker 2: Well, Like, one thing I want to bring up Jake

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Speaker 2: There's not many NRL players you'd want to marry your sister.

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Speaker 2: But when that question gets asked, probably ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: the NURL has always said, Jake TARROI bitch. And somebody

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Speaker 2: actually took that literally. Corey Woddell actually took that to

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Speaker 1: I hope so?

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Speaker 3: We just try to Is it Corey Woddell's sister or

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Speaker 3: way and said, okay, you can just give me a solo.

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Speaker 3: I want to get in thick with another contract the

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Speaker 3: brother in law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're going out to you hang out with

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Speaker 2: wads quite a bit, play together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is he do you reckon? What do you raid

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Speaker 2: You'd be made for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Oh yeah, but I'm not related, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he's okay, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Just just on that on your manly teammates, Jake, can

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Speaker 3: DC his wedding and the grub who m seated some

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Speaker 3: of the things he said.

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Speaker 2: Jake got a few that you got a fair you

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Speaker 1: It was funny, I'll tell you. It was funny. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that we can say it on it, but

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Speaker 3: Well it's just a joke. It's an old one. I'd

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Speaker 2: I know that one.

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Speaker 3: Not that one.

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Speaker 2: Sure about you gave me one and it was about

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Speaker 3: Smoking sell one to do with the MC people. If

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. If you're disabled, find another toil And

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Speaker 1: What would have loved it? Mate? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was having a laugh? What was having a laugh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: He sings the if you ever see him in the sheds,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, yeah, great, yeah, I've met him before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: One of the smartest minds. Sorry, like greatest memories rugby

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Speaker 3: It's funny when when you're an MC or you're doing something,

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Speaker 3: There was one to Philip philp who he gets our

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Speaker 3: He told me the other day, he goes, Mate, I

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Speaker 2: I actually wanted to before we get on with asking

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Speaker 2: But Dad, one of my favorite beach is great. You

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's Jake for sure, you have to

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Speaker 3: As you head to a central coast up to Newcastle.

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Speaker 3: So you be careful me.

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Speaker 2: You're dominant.

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Speaker 3: I'll get my pos on you.

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Speaker 2: But with those guys, the prank that Dad got you

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Speaker 2: Day from Day from Dy but he was done in

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if I'm going to say this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard that they edited around and then I.

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Speaker 1: Did a bit of acting, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I signed that when I was signing the pawn mag.

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Speaker 3: That you knew by that I knew, yeah, because Jake

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Speaker 2: But he didn't give it back.

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Speaker 1: The producer or whoever was there come up and said,

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Speaker 1: I do not ruin this, but like we've paid good

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Speaker 1: If I didn't know, that would have worked out.

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Speaker 2: So Tommy didn't. Like Tommy had zero idea, no, because

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Speaker 1: Well you hope you know that Tom had a promo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And with Tom, you know, that's the thing I've

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Speaker 3: learned about humans. God doesn't give you anything. Yeah. Tom

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Speaker 3: But he's an idiots.

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Speaker 2: He's actually he's not an idiot. He's actually intelligence. He's

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Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, ninety four point three eight. How do you

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Speaker 1: go any that anything mathematical? Give him an equation or

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Speaker 3: You're good, Tom? Okay, how are you at maths?

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Speaker 1: Like them?

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Speaker 1: Right? But like when you're comparing me to Tom terrible?

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Speaker 2: But Tom couldn't make forty five tackles, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's struggling with the twenty five at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Now, by the way, how good is lehigh?

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Speaker 2: But you boys are playing outstanding at the moment. Last

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Speaker 2: and last week Good winn in Melbourne. Yeah, look and

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Speaker 2: the scene can I say the scenes afterwards Jakie when

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Speaker 2: you were in the sheds and they flashed down and

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Speaker 2: you kicked those poor power Aid bottles. They did nothing

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Speaker 3: So happy.

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Speaker 1: I know, I just I don't think I could believe

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Speaker 1: we just won in Melbourne, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know the camera was on either, you know.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, have.

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Speaker 2: You had many wins in Melbourne in your career.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. I've had four, that's good, believe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have kind of always been like a

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Speaker 2: bogie side for Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: When we we well that was probably like long before

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Speaker 2: But even when like even of the modern sort of generation,

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Speaker 2: even when you guys haven't been on your best, like

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Speaker 2: playing at Brookvale Oval when Storm come there, they kind

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Speaker 1: We've been really good against him at Brookvale Over up

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Speaker 1: until this year. They touch us up in round five,

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Speaker 2: You remember a couple of them. I was a part

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Speaker 2: of one of them. Thanks for bringing me into it, Jakie. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got its name obviously now and you know what

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Speaker 1: Is, right, Jakie the Cup John's Cup.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I didn't even feed in that line as well,

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Speaker 3: You're doing good form out of the blue. You sort

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, three good games, We've still got

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Speaker 1: We've got a tough one this Weekend's Bulldogs. They have

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Speaker 2: How do you go?

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Speaker 3: Would be good? I mean, think about consistency, is right, is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to take them perspective. I mean,

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Speaker 3: say this, if that's your barometer always for if you

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Speaker 2: It's a great fallback option to always have that in

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I stress out of it, if I'm

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Speaker 3: Does it That's what captains do, don't they all leaders

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Speaker 1: It's hard when it's not going well. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: Because you wear losses quite like they affect you quite happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, like I want merely to go well, you

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, and a team isn't And I think you're

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Speaker 1: I think, like he just he just wants to win.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is hard when you see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: For you? You get there sometimes, yeah, and you'd be

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Speaker 3: there'd be times during your career they'd be so deflated

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Speaker 1: No, Definitely, it definitely is hard, as as you said,

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Speaker 1: I look at all the throughout the history we've been

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Speaker 3: And that's part of it. Like Jake, like they use

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think one thing that like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Is there a game, Jake, Was there a moment or

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Speaker 3: anything when you're a kid that makes you fall in

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, with what we see it every time we

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Speaker 1: The fighting and don't we don't contain violence, but just

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Speaker 3: Were just and I reckon Jake that that side. At

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Speaker 3: But I remember hearing some of the Blakes, so I

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Speaker 3: We just decided I'm not going to take any of

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Speaker 1: I'm just how passionate they were for the area. Like

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Speaker 2: When you were young, Jakie, like your first year in

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Speaker 2: But it's daunting first, very daunting, Yeah, and then everyone's

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Speaker 1: Like also like you know what I found funny? Like

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Speaker 1: Do I call him Anthony or Chock? Like everyone calls

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: What you have to earn?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How do I do that?

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Speaker 2: That was just like did you what did you do?

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Speaker 2: Did you did you use?

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Speaker 3: But what's some good that? What good karma for you?

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Speaker 3: It just shows like people listen to that and get

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Speaker 3: your time, You're coaching the under fifteen side, and inadvertently.

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Speaker 1: I was sorry, coaching under six is under six.

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Speaker 3: Sorry you're fifteen, apologize and you're coaching the under sixers

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Speaker 1: It was a great blessing this guys. They're still great

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Speaker 3: Who was your first coach there when you first come out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just very passionate. His passion was his greatest strength is

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Speaker 3: It was the toughest bloat mate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He and he and Kieran just peas in a pod.

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Speaker 3: We swapped it and the jersey is just covered in blood.

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00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 3: Trish wanted to wash it and I said, mate, don't

439
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,440
Speaker 3: wash it. It's just because at that game he went

440
00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 3: off twice, remember, stopped on his head.

441
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,359
Speaker 2: That's right, I'll do it. Stud marks in his eyes

442
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:02,960
Speaker 2: and that right.

443
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's half you know what, I can't believe. It's

444
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 1: great you got his jersey, but how do you swap

445
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: a Grand Final winning jersey? I never understand how they

446
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,680
Speaker 1: do that to this day.

447
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 3: I heard, yeah, there's an old trick. Here's an old trick.

448
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 2: He what's the old trick.

449
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 3: The old trick is you changed jerseys at halftime. So

450
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 3: whenever I played in a State of Origin and Australian team,

451
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 3: they always have two jerseys. So I'd say to the

452
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 3: gear Stewart, I've got a tear in this jersey or

453
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 3: something and I'll put that one in a bag and

454
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 3: then half time get the other jersey and that's the

455
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,600
Speaker 3: one this swapped. Isn't that in the middle of an

456
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,399
Speaker 3: important game?

457
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 2: Did you do that in the Grand Final? You took

458
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 2: your jersey off, through it in your bag and got

459
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: a new jersey. Yep, that's very smart, because I remember

460
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,440
Speaker 2: when when ys smart. Remember when we played out a

461
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,440
Speaker 2: mudge and it was Jack and I playing against each

462
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 2: other and after the game, Jack went we shouldwap jerseys

463
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 2: like this is a pretty cool moment for the family,

464
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, that's right. I took it off,

465
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 2: swapped him with it and it ended up in a drawer.

466
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 2: And I remember Newcastle felt like they won and we

467
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,479
Speaker 2: felt like we lost because we were I think we

468
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 2: were favorites to win that game, and and I went

469
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 2: back in the shed rum was filthy. And then how

470
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 2: happy was Rossy ROSSI our gifts to it. Rossie, who's

471
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 2: a terrific bloke. He's like the nicest bloke in the world.

472
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Great gearst you're too, Me and him picking up the

473
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: bottles together. Anyway, after I kicked him, he is awesome.

474
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 2: He's the best bloke. And Rossie goes and I'm like, shirtless,

475
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 2: just got this night jersey and he goes, who's your

476
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,400
Speaker 2: fucking And I swapped it with my brother, thinking like oh.

477
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 2: He goes, oh yeah, good, and he goes fuck off, yeah,

478
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,199
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and he goes, that's going to costure and

479
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 2: we just can We've just drawn and I was like, Rossie,

480
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't need this right now, right now in this

481
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 2: moment talked about it didn't end up charging me, thank fuck.

482
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 2: But they take it. They they're very they don't they

483
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 2: don't let you give jerseys out very lightly these days.

484
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 1: I hated it in a because every time I played

485
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: for Australia, I wanted to keep your jersey. I was

486
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 1: not swapping right, Actually I did once where I wanted

487
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,679
Speaker 1: to Kieran fourn I was very happy to do that.

488
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: But then once we're playing Scotland and a bloke come

489
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 1: up to me and said, oh, can we swap? And

490
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 1: I was I didn't know what. I said yes because

491
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say, and I was after

492
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 1: I was secretly burning because I love keeping my jerseys

493
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: sort of things.

494
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: Scottish jersey, well here we only want to swap with

495
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 2: was Yeah, that's one of the.

496
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: Reasons why it stopped. Jake and that that was the

497
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 3: tradition in Grand Finals as soon as the full time

498
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 3: siren went. You know, in the eight seventies and eighties ongoing,

499
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: they would swap jerseys and it stopped when sponsorship start

500
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 3: to become so prolific because you know, if.

501
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: You're in the you're in a team photo.

502
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 3: You're in a two polo and you're wearing the other jersey,

503
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: which is killed me looking back.

504
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah I was the player.

505
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean in the other I just

506
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 2: won the comp.

507
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: I haven't won a comp, so I don't know how

508
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: what it feels like, but you're wearing the other team's

509
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: jersey in the photos. That would hurt me.

510
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Imagine being the head of the CEO of a

511
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: company who's paid all this money to they just won

512
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: the comp You're wearing the Bulldogs jersey.

513
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Pepsi is the sponsor this year and Coke's the

514
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: opposition also wearing these Coke Coke jerseys.

515
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, that makes sense, I think, because I

516
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 2: think that is a big issue. Even that they say

517
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: like they don't want to swap jerseys now because when

518
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: they get photos after the Grand Final, I think sponsors

519
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: actually like haven't written in these days.

520
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it would be.

521
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you never see really, you don't see too many.

522
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: You see way you're swapping now.

523
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: Jake, how how you were raised? Right? So a lot's

524
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: been said about this, but I remember turning up at

525
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: Mona val Oval when we're coaching, when the boys were

526
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: playing for Hardboard, and there was yourself, Tom and Ben

527
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: and the family, your mom and dad everyone there and

528
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: they're putting mom and dad working the barbecue. You guys

529
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 3: are doing the lines on the field, put the witches

530
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: hats out, all that sort of stuff, Like where'd that

531
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: come from? Is that the old man driving that?

532
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Definitely, it was definitely mum and dad. Like I

533
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: don't know. Once we started playing for the Raiders. I

534
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: think from a year or two since we started playing.

535
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: Dad was just right into it. He was always on

536
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: the barbie. He was the president. He's just all down there.

537
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: It was part of our life, Like we go down

538
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: there every Friday hour, but we're excited for it. We

539
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: had lots of great friends, Like down there it was

540
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: all are You'd be there all night because Dad's on

541
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: the barbie. Then we go back the next morning. We'd

542
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: first there and you'd be there till the end because

543
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: we're setting up. And I don't know. That was definitely

544
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: coming from my mom and dad. They're always a big

545
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: part of it. But we loved it, you know what

546
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean. It was cool, Like we go down a

547
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: year at six am, would be playing midday or whatever.

548
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: Then you watch every game play and then watch every

549
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: game after that.

550
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: You're old boy. Even at Captain's Run, still at Manly,

551
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: your boy will get down on the bar Actually he's

552
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: on the barbie tomorrow on the glass barbie. Yeah, he

553
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: over there with some snags and like that's obviously he

554
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have to do it. But you and Tommy like

555
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: that's Ingraind and Bennie in all of you boys like

556
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: the amount of work that you guys do with Junior

557
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: forty two and and probably thankless promo. You know how

558
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: the boys would have to do promos for sponsors sometimes

559
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: and the boys might go, oh look not today like

560
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: you boys go above and beyond to just give back

561
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 2: to Manly but also the local community. Oh sorry, it's

562
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: a nice.

563
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Ground announcing. One day. I think you were a ground.

564
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: Announced Oh yeah, monotone ground announce it. But I was

565
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: did me best?

566
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: But that is that is in crab Art.

567
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: Did you know when he was playing and did haro

568
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: mats and ball? I think I might have been just.

569
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 3: When the boys were playing. I'm listening and the ground anounce,

570
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: I went, man, that ain't Grand Goldman and uh which

571
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: is the older announcer. But I'm sitting now I know

572
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: that voice and look up and you're the grand announcer.

573
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah see I remember seeing you with is it Keith

574
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: the Onslow Keith? He was there with you that day.

575
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he was the guy that discovered Andrew and I

576
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: was he what recruitment officer was?

577
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

578
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really nice.

579
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: He was our manager for the Junior Kangaroos in twenty fourteen.

580
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: Was he terrific for a great rugby league.

581
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, no, I remember seeing, remember seeing he's down.

582
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: There was up on the mic, number one and let

583
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: you number one, what a try.

584
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: I was so bad she actually had to commentate, No,

585
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: not commentating, just announced that score.

586
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, to scored lineups before the game.

587
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: And it's only you are there was anyone else with you.

588
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: It's just me that that's actually a pretty tough gig

589
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: if you're not like if it's just your first time

590
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: doing things.

591
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Because I used to go and what Tom play? Right?

592
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: And I was I must have been an SG ball,

593
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: So I mustn't have been playing that day, right, because

594
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: it mats an SG ball, So I must have been

595
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: the twenties or something. Yeah, And they didn't have anyone

596
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: and I did it once and then it just become

597
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: a thing. I was on for home games.

598
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: That is so funny. From you, that is so good

599
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: because you look, we talked about how much you love

600
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: Manly now. But you're a nice supporter growing up, right,

601
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: And is that like you can give this fellow a

602
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: rap if you want or don't. Jeez, what where does

603
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: that come from?

604
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I started the first game

605
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: I ever watched was two thousand and one, the semi

606
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: final against the Roosters. Yep, Adam McDougall and Joey had

607
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: the Blinders. I think they won about forty to six

608
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: or something, right, and then from then on in it

609
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: was Adam McDougall and Andrew John's my two favorite players,

610
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: like really mad one. Yeah, because that game, go back

611
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: and watch the highlights. Mad he played so good and

612
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: then obviously just jumped in the bandwagon. Then a few

613
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: weeks later, Grand Final twenty four, you'll lead a half

614
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: time gone out to this my team.

615
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: There's a moment in that game that a little period

616
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: in the game to symbolizes Joey and competitor and you

617
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: know his ability to play. He gets not totally unconscious,

618
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: started that game and a few minutes later it takes

619
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: the ball, beats about five blakes, scores and turns around

620
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: the Rooster's blakes and goes fuck you, fuck you, and

621
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: fuck you.

622
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Really I've watched the because when I was young, I

623
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: got the two thousand and one sorry, two thousand and

624
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: one Nights here you'd watch all the games in highlights. Yeah,

625
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: that game, watch it. There's some great commentary like Ray

626
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Warren was calling him Messiah. Yeah, Peter Sterling goes he's

627
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: a bit like it was.

628
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah really but that that year, you know, Jake, because

629
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: I was over in Wigan, I was, I was in

630
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: England and Andrew suffered injury in the middle of the year,

631
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: missed about six weeks. In all of those games they

632
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: did see a pump by fifty and then the game

633
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 3: that he returns, they played at home against the Broncos

634
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: who were flying and night to put forty in nil.

635
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: Jesus.

636
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: There is like when I remember watching some of the

637
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 2: highlights from those years and Joey was he nearly won

638
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: a dal a M one year and he'd only played

639
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: like I think a third of the games in the season. Yeah. Yeah,

640
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: but like there is a handful of players like that

641
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: who are so the team not relying on them. But

642
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: there are some years where if they lose that one player,

643
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: and Turbo is an example, like some years like when

644
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: Turbo's been out. Yeah, basically you know, like there's been

645
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: so many losses in a row after it because you're

646
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: so much of.

647
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: The attacks twenty one when he got the Dali M,

648
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: we started oh and four. Yeah, that's right, we got

649
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: a winning round five, we kicked a drop goal. He

650
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: wasn't playing and then he come back in mudgie round

651
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: six and he won. Dallim we may top four from

652
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: oh to four. Yeah, he's just like just the belief

653
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: you got from having him on the fields.

654
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: It is a different like and I've only played the

655
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: one year at Manley, but when the difference in having

656
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: Turbo out there versus not whether whether he had a

657
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: big game or not, it was like the confidence you

658
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: give everyone else. Sometimes you go into the game.

659
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: Like what they like, do what you see. It's their

660
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: presence and like from when he's at fullback for instance,

661
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: the way he sort of directs people around and like

662
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: just communications. Yeah, it's just like different. And I feel

663
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: like when he plays, the whole crowd bloody has a leaft,

664
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The lookball oble is different.

665
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: Every time he gets the ball, everyone gets to their feet.

666
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

667
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: Was he What was he like as a kid as

668
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: a player? Was he was? Was always a freak?

669
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always just Yeah he's from a young age

670
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: just scoring trid.

671
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 3: That frustrate you because I'm proud older brother, but may

672
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: you work your ass off right? Your gift, and it

673
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: is a gift. It's passion. That's your gift, and people

674
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: underestimate that, mate, getting up for games, having passion. Mate,

675
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: it's a skill, and it's a gift that's yours. You know,

676
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: Tom's an incredible athlete. You know watching him times you

677
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: watching him and go, fuck, hell, come on, give me

678
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: a little bit of that.

679
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: I would love some of that, a bit of speed.

680
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Or something, a little bit.

681
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: You've got to be very proud, like very like watching

682
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: him go out there and play well and whatever, overcome

683
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: everything and just be so resilient, like yeah, very like

684
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: he's one of the most resilient people I've ever seen

685
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: what he's had to like go through and people talking

686
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: about him.

687
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: And he works. He works bloody hard.

688
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: So hard that no one understands how hard he works.

689
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Was he good at other sports?

690
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: He played AFL? You had to hear the body type

691
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: first sort of AFL. You know what he was really

692
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: good at, Like I'm talking freakish at nippets?

693
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh really?

694
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've seen the pictures of him in.

695
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: His sprint and the beach flags from under eights. Now,

696
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: when is when can you start going to the States.

697
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: I think that's ten whatever age it is to under fourteen's,

698
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: the sprint and the beach flags. He was first or

699
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: second in the state every time at the cardival, really

700
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: every year.

701
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm thinking. You know what I'm thinking,

702
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: just gonna race down he and Damien.

703
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: I think Tom's has grown out. I don't think flag

704
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: suits him and he Oh yeah, I mean the whole

705
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: big turning circle.

706
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Got a question, Hey, Jakie, longtime fan, first time listener

707
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: to Jubilee. I was just going to say to you

708
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: when you were talking about Tom during that twenty twenty

709
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: one year. So we were in lockdown with the Manly Boys,

710
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: Roosters Boys, and Panthers boys that year, and you just

711
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: spark my memory. I think Des gave chairs the big

712
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: bungalow because all the coaches got given like I.

713
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Need to sorry, I need to stick up for chess

714
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: here anyway, keep going.

715
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: We used to walk past Das all the time as like,

716
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: because you're always it's weird you're living and playing against

717
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: all these teams and dees. Anyone that came near him.

718
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: Everyone knew not to say a word to.

719
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Him out for chess. Yeah, because he had three kids,

720
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: he actually paid for that bungalow.

721
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: Oh did he so wow?

722
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: People who said he got given a entitled No, he

723
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: paid for it right anyway, Des, and he's alread Yeah, wait,

724
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: when Des walked in a room, even when he was

725
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: your coach, he owned that room, like you can be

726
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: talking whatever he'd walk in and he just that room

727
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: was his. You know, I don't think I've ever seen

728
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: anyone like it. Maybe Melvin Inger, but like when it's

729
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: just I don't know. And was it tough?

730
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: Because we we all you know, coaches go through such

731
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: ups and down, highs and lows of the season plus COVID,

732
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: How did you guys find it living alongside the coach

733
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: every day? Because I've at Newcastle.

734
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: I loved, I loved it. I loved It's one of

735
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: those things.

736
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: Because it's so hard because you've got a coach who's

737
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: just like living it every day and then the players

738
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: try to get away from it, like what were your

739
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: days off?

740
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: Like?

741
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: No, he was actually really good, I think early on

742
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: everyone said because obviously he loves it, right, and he

743
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: was just just go into so much detail.

744
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: He's a days off.

745
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna have days off, right, But I'll tell you

746
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: a funny story. So I've been out for a month.

747
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I told my loop, believe it, I'm not power athletes.

748
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: How have you ever done a soft tissue in power athlete?

749
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Come back? Right? And we played the Tigers and we won.

750
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: We actually won quite convincingly, but I defended very poorly, right,

751
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: and just like I'm talking on the ground that sort

752
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: of stuff, right, anyway, I was. I was literally I

753
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: went through on a mile, I'm going to retire stages, right,

754
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: And I went to I went up to Desir's bungalow.

755
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: He was on his own, Christine hadn't moved up there yet,

756
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: and we went through every tackle, watch every tackle with men.

757
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: At one stage, he had me on the floor in

758
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: his bungalow showing me the wrestling move and how to sprawl.

759
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm literally on his floor and he's sprawling on.

760
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Me like teaching your hands on it, like there's that

761
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: old story.

762
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: And him in his room.

763
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: But it was.

764
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: Walked in, ok It.

765
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: That was the sort of depth you go to, like

766
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: you could see I was. We watched every single tackle

767
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I did, and it was actually a few that I

768
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: think I played eighty minutes, right, But I just wasn't

769
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: happy with it. Right, and we watched every like I'm

770
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: talking from when the player I was tackling hit the

771
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: ground to when they got up. We just looked at

772
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: everything and then he was even showing me like that

773
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: should fit.

774
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: But it's good. It's a good rap for you there, Jackie.

775
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: I can jump in with you. Like a lot of players,

776
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: if they have a bad game, they kind of want

777
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: to forget about it and just move on. Whereas it's

778
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: a good sign in you and it's a good lesson

779
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: for young kids who are listener might want to be

780
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: wanted to play in a roll one day, like your

781
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: proactiveness to go to your coach and actually watch every

782
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: single tackle like it's a sign that you want to

783
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: get better as well, because a lot of people and

784
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: I'll pull my hand up. I used to do it

785
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: sometimes after a shit game where you just flush it

786
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: and almost want to just move on to the next week.

787
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: You'd tell, ah, wow, that was I was trying to have,

788
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: you know what, No more wraps for either of you this, no, no, sorry,

789
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: you can you can take over from there. But like

790
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: you're has that always been something with you? Like is

791
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: that something you just want to get better?

792
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. But also sometimes it does get

793
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: what you just said, like you had to you don't

794
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: go so well or whatever, and teams are going well,

795
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: you literally just want the next week. But I think

796
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it is you just always

797
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: knew you'd have something really proactive for you to work

798
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: on and you could get better. And you knew if

799
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: he told you something, you would have thought about it

800
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: till three a m. That bloody night.

801
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: You're real foot, you know, like you'll watch you'll watch

802
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: all the games.

803
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I used to, like when I first come into first

804
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: go to watch every show, every game, every Now I

805
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: really watch a game.

806
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: What about shows?

807
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I used to watch every single show just and now

808
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Just too much anxiety, too

809
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: much stress that I just can't do it anymore.

810
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Too much.

811
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, for you, mate, like

812
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: for you're when it comes to rugby league're one hundred

813
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: out of one hundred half measures. I was going to

814
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: ask you that how do you how do you get

815
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: away from the game? How do you finish a game

816
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: and then let it go?

817
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been half for me, Like my wife

818
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Alex has been great for that for me. Perspective in life,

819
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like realizing there's so much

820
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: more than just footy. But it's hard, Like it's as

821
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: I said, I put so much into it and I

822
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: just want mainly to do well.

823
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: Like it's I tell you what she she does you

824
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: in in the Sunday paper. One of that stuff was horrific.

825
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: But she deserves the medal for bloody dealing with me.

826
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: And they asked, what is is? What's Jake like around

827
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: the house? Yeah, how he's with a cook that she goes.

828
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: He's sort of you know, similar, He's probably not that great.

829
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: He does things like he wraps the this in ol foil.

830
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: That's honestly a thing I need. I need something.

831
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: What else to do with He put the electric in

832
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: the dish washing.

833
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I didn't do that, and you know what, I couldn't

834
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: be bothered. I just could not be sorry. I couldn't

835
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: be bothered to wash it. And I was like, that's

836
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: going and I'm just so did it break it? It

837
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: didn't the first time, so I thought it was sweet.

838
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: The second time I did. Yeah. My latest one was

839
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: you know those metal bowls, yea, I put that in

840
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the microwave.

841
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: Jesus.

842
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: It literally caught on fire. Yeah.

843
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: It literally was like, mate, it is it's I did

844
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: it with.

845
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was foil apparently that's yeah, it's

846
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was aiming in foil. I didn't know

847
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: it was oluminium.

848
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put I put foil in a while before. Okay, well, cheese,

849
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: you's not that stupid. Another thing. I give him the

850
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: betat of the doubt and then he just stashed me

851
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: in the back. I thrown it in there and instantly

852
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: it was like it was like a storm cloud in there.

853
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: There was like lightning and ship going about. I gotta

854
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: get this.

855
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: Do yourself, makes me stations and at the end of

856
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: the day, we're all going to die one day, right.

857
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: That's right. Just let yourself be free made correct.

858
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

859
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Anyway back to Alex deserves the bloody metal for dealing

860
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: with me, honestly, ups and down, Like yeah, ups and

861
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: downs honestly.

862
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: But you're naturally you are like quite an anxious person, right,

863
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: very nervous, very yeah. But but that's because you care,

864
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: Like when it comes to your footy, you I care

865
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: so much.

866
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: That sometimes it's like I look forward to a day

867
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: where I don't have to care as much. Is that

868
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: is that? Am I spot on? Dad? Well, you like it,

869
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I'm fast forwarding away something

870
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: that's so good, like I love it? But also why

871
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: do not feel like this? You know what I mean?

872
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: You hope that doesn't come across the wrong way because

873
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I love it.

874
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: Jake, You're exactly right, mate. I at the start of

875
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: my career I had great disdain for people who after

876
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: like was able to just let things go straight away,

877
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: disdain the word no. I couldn't. I just couldn't understand it.

878
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: Why an't you hurting?

879
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: Like?

880
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: And then I realized later on that my attitude was

881
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: actually burning me out. Yeah, you know. And you look

882
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: at Bovo right like Beav is an example, like we'd

883
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: lose an Origin game or a test game. I look

884
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: over and be like, oh yeah, it would be laughing

885
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: and to be hurting a little bit. But he's able

886
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: to let it go. And hence why he played here

887
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: in the UK almost five hundred pers because you know,

888
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: it didn't take a mental toll the day the day

889
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: that I got injured and I knew it wouldn't play again.

890
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, Jake. Set the emotion I

891
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: felt relief most. The emotion I felt the most was relief.

892
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, fuck, it's over. I can stop

893
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: torturing myself.

894
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: See I think like that sometimes too. Then, But then

895
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I think what also drives me is that I play

896
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: alongside my brothers too. It's something I just don't want

897
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: to give up. I don't want to give it up anyway,

898
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get that feeling. And ever

899
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: since Ben's coming in, Like obviously me and Tom took

900
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: it for granted, right, So Tom deboot my fifth game.

901
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: So we've always played together, so it was just like, yeah, whatever,

902
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: But now Ben's playing. It's just like I think that's

903
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: what just like drives me to I just want to do.

904
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: You worry about Ben on the field?

905
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, about everything, more so than Tom because he is

906
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: the like the youngest.

907
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I definitely worry about Ben. I wanted to

908
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: do well. If he's worrying about something, I'm worrying about it,

909
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

910
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: But you also wear it like a little inside for people.

911
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: You were like when Turbo was going through a lot

912
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: of his injuries, like you would wear a lot of

913
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: that too. I remember when Urb's got hurt mid year

914
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, like that took a fair toll one

915
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: like you. It seems like as the oldest you wear

916
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: a lot of the pressure of all the boys.

917
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like seeing bad things happen, you know

918
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then obviously know what everyone says

919
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: about you know, Tom and that sort of thing, And

920
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: I just know how much hard he were. I just

921
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: don't want it to happen, you know what I mean.

922
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: It just kills me. So it's great seeing him play

923
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: some good foot That's great seeing all his hard work payoff.

924
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: Can I ask a tough question here, Jake? And I

925
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: think it's a question I'm going to ask because you know,

926
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: bloke's like yourself and Tom Right, it's so easy to respect,

927
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: so easy respect. There's young blokes out there, young foot

928
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: ball as, young people in general, young girls and everything

929
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: that are in on the end of like horrible trolling,

930
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: like even blokes like you and Tom Cobbett Online.

931
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't go on my social media.

932
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: I just don't go on it. Like I've I got

933
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: it there in case I have to do something, but

934
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: I put it on loot. My other brother who doesn't

935
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: play foot Luke's phone. Yep, I was like, change the

936
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: password and do not tell me at all costs, because

937
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: you know when you first I deleted the ARP, and

938
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: then I'd get bored, so I'd go back on it

939
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: right just to look at things. And then now I've

940
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: had it gone for years, so I don't need to

941
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: look at it, right. But yeah, you still definitely as

942
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: like people say, you know you're fat, you're slay. Well

943
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: that's true, but you know what I mean, it just

944
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: don't make you feel good, you know what I mean?

945
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Why Yeah, why give something the attention if it's just

946
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: going to be negative and like.

947
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: It's people get Some people get a right access to

948
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: you they don't deserve, you know what I mean.

949
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: Like you think about those people who do that, right,

950
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: and you got to think of it like this. Here,

951
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: he's a person that was born one day and their

952
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: mother and father had such great ambitions for them. You know,

953
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: they grant going to be a doctor, are they going

954
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: to do this? Such ambitions and these people end up

955
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: sitting in a basement trolling people that were better than

956
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: How the fuck do they live with themselves? And I

957
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: feel so sorry for their parents.

958
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's hard, like it frustrates you at times.

959
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Then you just got to I don't know, you put

960
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: into perspective. So I'm just doing my best. Honestly. It's like,

961
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: you go out there, compete as hard as you can.

962
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I've had to say, like people for said, like, you

963
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: compete as hard as you can in that moment, and

964
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: then it's done. It's easier said than done, but that's

965
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: why you try.

966
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: And well, And I just bring that up because I

967
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: want people like young to hear to understand that even

968
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: Joke Travoivis and Tom Travoyevich, who the easiest place to

969
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: respect cop shit off these morons?

970
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think there's probably not even outside of athletes.

971
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: So you're in the media now obviously, but you you

972
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: have a good perspective. You've lived through three generations when

973
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: it was like the newspaper and then technology kind of

974
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: sort of came in, and now it's like full thriving

975
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: to an AI level where everybody gets access to everything.

976
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: You being off like, you don't have that habit like

977
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: probably a lot of us younger guys have, So you

978
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: don't you don't know what people think about it.

979
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: Now I have it on bliss.

980
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: That's the best thing I've done. I would say to

981
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: any professional athlete. I know they've got to do it

982
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: for promos and promos and they make money off it,

983
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: which I get that, But if I was saying performance,

984
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I'd get rid of it. Honestly, I don't know what

985
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: it serves for you for your performance. I guess you

986
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: get paid from it some people, but I would advise

987
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: anyone to get rid of it.

988
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know. And the thing about is Jake White

989
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: becomes such a surprise talking to some players have asked

990
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: me advice on it. Why it becomes such a surprise

991
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 3: is the times they do get on it was after

992
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: they have a blinder and they get on there expecting praise.

993
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: But you can't please those people, right, and that they

994
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: get on there and they're getting hammered, and keep your right.

995
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: The transition from into the digital age and internet age

996
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 3: like living through that. Back in the day, a person

997
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: would write a letter to the editor that what a

998
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: troll did, either say something in the back of a

999
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: toilet door, or they'd write a letter to the newspaper

1000
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: and being there right where. And I remember when the

1001
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: Internet came in and suddenly the boys were saying to training.

1002
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: Have you seen these things, these forums, fans forums. We're like, nah,

1003
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: they said, oh mate, you should sue the fucking saying

1004
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: about you, Blake, We're.

1005
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: Going, who would do that? I just don't. I don't

1006
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: get it. But you know what, you know, you said

1007
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: you look at things when you have a good game.

1008
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: You're not Freddie Tommy. Once in Origin camp, we just

1009
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: had a we didn't play well, we lost those devastated that. Mate.

1010
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: We don't read the papers when we win, so it

1011
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: gives us the right to not do it now when

1012
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: we lose, you know.

1013
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1014
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: So I think that's just the great Yep, he's got

1015
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: some great things, Freddie, like something that was just I

1016
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: was like, you know, that's so true, Like like why

1017
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: when you go, well, just don't even look when you're

1018
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: going that's it. It's just then then you've got the

1019
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: right to not look.

1020
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, jake yourself. You know,

1021
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 3: when you've had a great game and you're satisfied in yourself,

1022
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: you don't need to jump online and give vindication of others.

1023
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, and I think that's what I

1024
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: learned from Now I've gone back to DEAs a lot.

1025
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: But just the way my strengths and playing my strengths.

1026
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not a player who's going to go out

1027
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: there and power out two hundred meters, you know what

1028
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm play in the middle, but I'm not

1029
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: going to do that right, it's not going to offload.

1030
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to score a couple of try.

1031
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: You have really right when chess passes over the line, I.

1032
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: Wouldn't believe it. Someone backed Josh King last night for

1033
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: two tries at eighty one dollars.

1034
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: Did they score?

1035
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: He scored a double.

1036
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Josh King didn't watch it.

1037
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's yeah King, he scored a double against

1038
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I know the King's mat and he King he hasn't

1039
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: got out of first year since a great player, great

1040
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: great player.

1041
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: King back in a way backed him last night because

1042
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: our producer was sitting there. It's Murphy's law, and HEINDI goes, oh,

1043
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm back a bit, I'm back one of the forwards tonight,

1044
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: Josh King and our producer he goes hot, Josh King, Mate,

1045
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: he never scores, and I went, you know what, I'm

1046
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: going to Murphy's Loaurman to back him for a double.

1047
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player.

1048
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: He's a good player. When when they did the Origin

1049
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: teams and they said King for Max King, Maxking very

1050
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: well deserved to actually played great. I thought they met

1051
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Josh King, and I went, that was even well deserved,

1052
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1053
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he's very so consistent. Like when you

1054
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: talk about an NFL playing and what coaches teach you

1055
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: as a player to strive for King is a great example,

1056
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: like King is an example of bloke who gives you

1057
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: seven and a half out of ten.

1058
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Well, first game is the same.

1059
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean, Like you know exactly what

1060
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: you're going to get out of him, and that's what

1061
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: you want as a teammate.

1062
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: A state of origin, your memories, Jake, some of your

1063
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: best memories in the.

1064
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Game, without doubt. Yeah, I mean my manly career hasn't

1065
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: been like oh it's been great, but hasn't been the

1066
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: most successful career. Right, So state of origin and playing

1067
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: red football sort of where I've got my Like I

1068
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: think back to like last year twenty twenty four being captain,

1069
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: like that was one of the most amazing experience I've

1070
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: ever had, right, don't be wrong. I felt so out

1071
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: of my depth and so nervous and whatever. But that

1072
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: went up there at some court was just I don't

1073
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: think I've ever been so happy. I don't so the

1074
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: only other time is twenty nineteen when he scored that

1075
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: try and that I was on the field for that.

1076
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: I've then I would have ran a high speed meter

1077
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: from about eighty meters back to get to Teddy. I

1078
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: was so happy, like yeah, some of the like it

1079
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: feels like that sort of arena gives like, I don't know,

1080
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: just career like gives you a bit of worth, like

1081
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, you get success on the big stage,

1082
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: that sort of thing.

1083
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: When you got that call about being captain, like we

1084
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: obviously it was unexpected because you weren't even captain in

1085
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: the club. But when you got that call, were you

1086
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: just like how.

1087
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I was going to get in the team right, So

1088
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty three, I didn't play games one and two.

1089
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: I played Game three and then new coach. I was

1090
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: just hoping to get the team. And then Madge called

1091
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: me on the Sunday. I was walking the dog with

1092
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: Alex and it's having a chat to me and I

1093
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: want you to be captain. I was, I felt sick.

1094
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I was really like very stoked, but like, how am

1095
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: I going to captain? These blokes have got like Ao's

1096
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: captain four premierships, so this you know what I mean? Like,

1097
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: how am I going to do this?

1098
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: Like the theme of hole matches too. He carried that

1099
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: blue jersey and the lead up he went and saying,

1100
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: this is what come on, tell me what this jersey means?

1101
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: And you you're you're the perfect example. It was exactly

1102
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: what you're after. Did you learn a lot of magic?

1103
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I did? Blokes that passionate and he just wants it,

1104
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: like he just wants it, like I could imagine not

1105
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: there Brisbane just driving his success and like he just

1106
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: will not let Yeah, I learned great.

1107
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: Well they just talk about prison and they start like

1108
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: it seems like that first half of the year for mate,

1109
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: it's been hard because he's trying to change a whole

1110
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: different culture to what he sees is important. Looks like

1111
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: they're starting to come Like.

1112
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: If they that bloke wants, he wants, he wants, they're the.

1113
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Kind of signe if they peep coming into finals, they're

1114
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: dangerous talent.

1115
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: They're a huge chance. You judge, you judge, coach sometimes

1116
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 3: not just in results, how much he improves the players

1117
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: ship of Saki.

1118
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: Look at.

1119
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: The center Tony stands, look at the improvement and all

1120
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: those players and those young players. Willison, Yeah, you know

1121
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: he's manages a great coach.

1122
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, he was. He was great for that around.

1123
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: He put so much passion into it too. As you said,

1124
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: he had that jersey everywhere. Anyone who come into camp,

1125
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: any former player, them up there, tell us what this

1126
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: means to you?

1127
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: Luck?

1128
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Is it even like go to this year? You know

1129
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: round before the game one state of origin you got concussed.

1130
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Was it up in Townsvill or something? I think? And

1131
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: you know obviously ruled out. Was that going from the

1132
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: captain last year and winning, How tough is it for you?

1133
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: Obviously that jersey means so much. You're so passionate to

1134
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: sit on the store.

1135
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Obviously, like had a kind of thought I probably wasn't

1136
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: going to be there anyway, you know what I mean.

1137
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like like I kind of had that

1138
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: vibe that I wasn't going to be there, But it

1139
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: was definitely like you want to be out there, you

1140
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You want to be a part

1141
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: of it. You're obviously passionate for the Blues, right, so

1142
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: you want to be out there, But I don't know.

1143
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: I think I was still just as passionate watching I

1144
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: was loving it. That first game was great. That was like, well,

1145
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: that's like getting that into it. It was almost like I

1146
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: was on the bench again, you know what I mean. Crazy.

1147
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: I remember.

1148
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: I remember we were texting each other after game one

1149
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: and you were just like, bloody, get that up your

1150
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: Queen's like you were, I would still say, And I

1151
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: was like, I remember sitting there thinking, that's so sick

1152
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: for someone who's just he's been there and done it,

1153
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: it'd be very easy for you to go. I wish

1154
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: I was out there, but you're still so stoked for

1155
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: some of your teammates will play a new game.

1156
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted them to win so badly. Was

1157
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: that first game. As I said, I was probably carrying

1158
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: on a bit to you that don't read the text now.

1159
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: Please have you toured over sus with You've been over

1160
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: there on tour? Yeah, amazing experience, amazing.

1161
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did four Nations in twenty sixteen, yeah, and

1162
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: then World Cup twenty twenty two.

1163
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: I enjoy the tour in England.

1164
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, both of them were in England twenty sixteen.

1165
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Have you with the Big Three then? Yeah, slat see

1166
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: Cooper and Camera Smith.

1167
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: Billy Slater or didn't play. I actually played for Australia

1168
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: with Billy Slater in twenty seven but he didn't play

1169
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Yeah, Darius Boyd was the fullback but Cooper,

1170
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: Cronk and Cavin Smith were playing. Yeah, I was. I

1171
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: played one game against Scotland that tour as I was

1172
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: started right the whole time?

1173
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: Really was that?

1174
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: Like, because you've you've played with a lot of obviously

1175
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: first coming too, first game, you're playing with Brett Stewart,

1176
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: all these players. I imagine you would have admired the

1177
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: Big Three's work for a long time as a manly player.

1178
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: What was your first interaction like with those boys?

1179
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, funny story, right, So we're in I caught

1180
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: in late right, Oh yeah, to the camp now in Perth.

1181
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I played in Perth, so I got there for game

1182
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: day and then I had a test in Perth. Then

1183
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: they'll go to England. So Josh Parley got injured. I

1184
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: went in there. We went out that night and I

1185
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: lost everyone. Right, I didn't really know anyone. I felt

1186
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: out of my depth, right, and like I was just

1187
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: like very awkward. I'm like, I'm Danny right as in

1188
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: like I sort of went back to the hotel as

1189
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I do you know back door.

1190
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: One of the greatest smoke bombers of all depth.

1191
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm a great smoke woman, but this time I just

1192
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't feel anyway. I walked back and sitting in the

1193
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: four hour mou'm and Inger, Cameron Smith, Matt Scott, Sam

1194
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Thurday and Craig Kaderick from the Night Right, and I

1195
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: was just going home to go to bed, right and

1196
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: never going to sit down here Jake, and they go,

1197
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: do you like red wine? I hate red wine? I

1198
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: hate red wine? I said, I love it right, red wine. Anyway,

1199
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: They drank red wine the whole night. They just played

1200
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: a test, right, I'm sitting there, I'm getting that, like

1201
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: just pretending I liked it. I started liking it by

1202
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: the end. My cat reckons by five point thirty. Whenever

1203
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: my teeth are all red, I've never been so hung

1204
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: over the next day. And I mean me and cat.

1205
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: Every time I see a cat up at Newcastle, we

1206
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: laugh about that.

1207
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Stories red wines. I always say, red wine is my

1208
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: favorite drunk but you get so hungover on it, like.

1209
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: I've never been. So that was the first time I've

1210
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: ever had it. And obviously I was trying to keep

1211
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: up with the big boys, you know what I mean.

1212
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: And I was done.

1213
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1214
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize this about Smitty but

1215
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: Smith because he doesn't give that image across. But like

1216
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: Smitty can drink like after Winds in Melbourne, he would

1217
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: just sit on a case and still in his jersey.

1218
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: Change a It's great.

1219
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's of the he doesn't never seem drunk. He's

1220
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: just like consistent, but he's he's keeping up with you.

1221
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: It's like he's something blow.

1222
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: The way they do the sheds is very impressive, you know.

1223
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: And I had something like I didn't play in these games.

1224
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: As I said, I played one game, AGA's Got I

1225
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: remember a Gamingainst England. The dressing room. We're in the

1226
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: dressing rooms after for that long. The only reason we

1227
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: left was because the bus driver had to take us

1228
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: home because his twelve hour gap from when he took

1229
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: us to the game. He had to he had to

1230
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: clock off by twelve hours although it's illegal, so he

1231
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: had to take us back yeah, you know what I mean,

1232
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: we've been in the sheds for that long. Would have

1233
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: been five hours after the game.

1234
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: That old school mentality that those boys had of like

1235
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: the sheds is everybody has to stay in the sheds

1236
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: afterwards and have a beer, like you don't. You probably

1237
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: don't get that as much in the modern group. Now

1238
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: everyone kind of go and a lot of boys don't

1239
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: really drink these days, so a lot of boys kind

1240
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: of in their shower they get out, But there is

1241
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: nothing better than after a win sitting in there and

1242
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: just that was.

1243
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: Some of the best memories, even with Woodsy because Woodsy

1244
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: was on that tour he was We talk about that

1245
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: still to this day, like some of how.

1246
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: Fun it was, took about those places you can drink.

1247
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: Malmaninger like we were well, Trisha and I were stating

1248
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: at the Q Hotel right in the middle of the

1249
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: city and why not we get went in there and

1250
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: we go to the bar to have a drink, and

1251
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: this young blope beyond the bar goes, oh, Maddie. We

1252
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: had a couple of colleagues in last night. We had

1253
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: Melmaninger justin Hodges and goody Tellers soing, oh, how that

1254
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: guy he goes, oh, mate, mate, Malmaninger was like, you know,

1255
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: he said, because you know, we keep gauge of how

1256
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: much drinking you got to these days with responsible service alcohol.

1257
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: He said to a manager and said, the biople like

1258
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: that Malmaninger, He's had like twenty two schooners. And the

1259
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 3: manager look over horrified and goes, well, how does he look,

1260
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: and the i'mlo he looks fine. He goes, We'll just

1261
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: keep serving him.

1262
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, rugby league, rugby league. Some people can't. And we

1263
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: spoke about that off Mike, about some players in a

1264
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: local area who can't hold their piss, keep that off.

1265
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: That off my croaks is all time to have a

1266
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: view with.

1267
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: And Bradley Parker, Oh, honestly, I don't think he's excited.

1268
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: I get excited because he doesn't play anymore. To go

1269
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: for coffee with him right there, you go for a

1270
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: drinking it's the best ever.

1271
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: He's such a good he's he is someone who's just

1272
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: so funny, like naturally just to look at his mannerisms.

1273
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: But then he's funny as well.

1274
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 2: And when he starts drinking and he's say, he's big,

1275
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: he's big beak, he's big snobs. He starts getting around. Fuck,

1276
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: he's so funny.

1277
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: His Trmparras story is still one of the best.

1278
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Of you there.

1279
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: But remember the tea bass story where he's got where

1280
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: there was a bad loss and they point to him

1281
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, seven out of ten bloke,

1282
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: seven out of ten straight, and Parks he was trying

1283
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: to give him a rap by how consistent he is.

1284
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: He was trying to say, he lives years seven out

1285
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: of ten bloke.

1286
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: He's seven out of ten bloke.

1287
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, for those people that haven't listened

1288
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: to it. Basically, Park's had a great game out there,

1289
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: one of the other consistent ones out there, and to

1290
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: make an example to the rest of the group on

1291
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: being consistent. What you do off the field consistency wise

1292
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: translates on the field. They said, look at this bloke

1293
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: over here, Brad Parker. Okay, he's a seven out of

1294
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: ten strength, seven out of ten speed, seven out of

1295
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: ten bloke. And then he goes out there and he

1296
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: has a seven out of ten performance.

1297
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: That's what I know.

1298
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to get out of Parks every week. The

1299
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: message it was, actually it's a great message to face.

1300
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: It's it's just everyone all everyone heard, apparently was just

1301
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: seven out of ten.

1302
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: Block.

1303
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: Hey guys, it's okay to be average. Look at him.

1304
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: Look at how he looks. He's seven out of ten.

1305
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: What do you think, Jake, going forward in the future,

1306
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: do you suit would you like to have a cracket coaching?

1307
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: Look? I have days where I'm like, obviously, as we know,

1308
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: we know our passionate for me, and I have days

1309
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: where I'm like, yeah, I'd love to do that. I'd

1310
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: love to try and leave this club and that sort

1311
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: of thing, right, But then I have days where just

1312
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: what we're talking about before, where it's all a bit

1313
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: march and it's like I need a different half, you

1314
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm a bit unsure, you know,

1315
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: is it comes to the sort of end of my career.

1316
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: But I obviously know this club like they've been good

1317
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: to me. I know they look half.

1318
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: Mean Jacob, have you have you ever have you ever

1319
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: considered or have you ever filled an offer from another club?

1320
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: Like there's been interest, but we've never, like I've got

1321
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: to give credit to Paul, Paul Sarton, he's our manager, right,

1322
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: We've never He's never really pushed. Yeah, he's even when

1323
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: we're young, right, So sorry, when I was young, when

1324
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Desert first gone to Bulldogs, we actually got like an

1325
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: offer to go to the Bulldogs, right, and it was

1326
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: like it was good, right, but he said, mainly this

1327
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: is your home, like it was a lot let like

1328
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: state mainly, and it's we've always he's always done that.

1329
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: We've always done our contracts over a year out, so

1330
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: there's never we've never had to go to the market,

1331
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like he's always done it

1332
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: very ethically or whatever, and I like that, you know

1333
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. And we're obviously lucky that they wanted

1334
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: us at that point too, you know what I mean,

1335
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: So like that makes it easier. But no, to answer

1336
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: your question, no, we haven't really like we've never really

1337
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: had to have.

1338
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: A young player try to get Newcastle once. So I

1339
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: remember you were on the cusp of first Go you

1340
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: had a bad ankle injury.

1341
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played one game at that stay.

1342
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had a bad ankle and there was a

1343
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: lot of depths in the forwards. And we going to

1344
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: your monovar one day and said you were like, oh yeah,

1345
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: and I tried to take advantage of getting a Newcastle

1346
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: and you sort of put you and oh yeah, in

1347
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: your mind you go, no fucking way about.

1348
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: I remember I seen you at that time at the

1349
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: I was picking up Killer and Steve Matdoye from the cooloid.

1350
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: The budhit there had me broken leave that.

1351
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: Right, that's right sort of, So run through what kind

1352
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: of state was Killer and Stevie maddow in and then

1353
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: what kind of state was Dad in? Whether they had

1354
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: like well hydrated.

1355
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Well hydrated? I was picking them up.

1356
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 2: So were they back in the day with those boys

1357
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: ring to give them a lift or something.

1358
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I was good mate to be Killer, I picked them up.

1359
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't used to drink much. I was

1360
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: when I first sort of was young. I just I

1361
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just very focused on it's this.

1362
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 3: Area where you're an alcove.

1363
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah, sorry, I'm still very focusing on you are.

1364
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I was always the driver.

1365
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we because we've given when Turbo come on the potty,

1366
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: we are we made the Turbo rounds famous where you

1367
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: know we've referred to him before. Where because when we're

1368
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: at Melbourne used to call it Turbo rounds because Turbo

1369
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: bought a round of thirty sodas for us in Bali

1370
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: one year for all the boys when we're having a

1371
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: mad Monday in twenty nineteen.

1372
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: He's very very generous.

1373
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: But I'll give you a wrap here're They could be

1374
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: equally called Gerbo rounds as well, because.

1375
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a time. I don't think

1376
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I have. I've got two. They're both mainly fullbacks.

1377
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: Brett Stewart one of the most generous people I've ever seen.

1378
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: When you're drinking, he literally, I swear when I was

1379
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: young he would have shouted a whole team drink from

1380
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: time to life, you know what I mean. He's so

1381
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: generous to this day and Tom Tom, I think this

1382
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: is merely number one tradition. It must be.

1383
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.

1384
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: Brett's Stewel Back in the day. Honestly, he would shout everyone.

1385
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: In the bar.

1386
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: One of the great probably Jesus Snake, snake.

1387
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: Good and great, great player and you know, sorry his

1388
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: brother Glenn. What's underrated about him is how tough he was.

1389
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Run just thinks about the skill, which is a very

1390
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: skillful player, but he was very tough.

1391
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the skill over shadowed the toughness.

1392
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: He was very tough. You just forget about it. And

1393
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Saint was tough to Yeah.

1394
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: And it was like Chess has had a long and

1395
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 3: illustrious career. He was so lucky that side he went

1396
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: into and you know the very fact that you know

1397
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: he was chance to still to stay correct me if

1398
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. He's more comfortable running the football than passing

1399
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: the ball. He's a runner in those days. And when

1400
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: he first come into Gray, you'd see him catch the ball,

1401
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: throw it early to Glenn or he just take him

1402
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 3: on simple role. But that's you know, those little trick

1403
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: shots Glenn And what a.

1404
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: Player that was a good Jesus was a good sad

1405
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: killer on the right edge.

1406
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: What about him.

1407
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: I've never seen a greater player in such an average body,

1408
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: well even more than Cameron Smith.

1409
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: You're sad to Jake's sorry about.

1410
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: The average body is not a great player I love.

1411
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: Do you know what's funny? When we were when we

1412
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: were all together twenty twenty three playing so the three,

1413
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: we used to do this test. It was like a

1414
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: bench press test, remember that one where the swearing these tests.

1415
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: So they put cables to the bench press and it'd

1416
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: be like a percentage of your body weight on there

1417
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: and they test your power like based on how quickly

1418
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: you get up. The three worst in the club was

1419
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: and it's just just three great blokes. It was myself,

1420
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: it was DC and Jaki, and I was.

1421
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: At the bottom of the three. I couldn't even.

1422
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: Beat those Jak come up with me. You keep beating.

1423
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: You're worse than the club kills me.

1424
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: But you're but you're straight, but but and everybody all

1425
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: tested this at Manly. The one person you don't want

1426
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: to wrestle in the wrestling room is you because those

1427
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: big hands, those big mits of yours, when they get

1428
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: around you.

1429
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: Use I remember you.

1430
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who you got. You got one

1431
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: of the might have been Parks. You remember that they

1432
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: were doing wrestle and Parks was like notorious for Brad Parker.

1433
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: If he was in a bad attitude, he just didn't

1434
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: want to beat.

1435
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: He just lay on his back and let you lay

1436
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: on him. But do not care, you know what I mean.

1437
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: But you I think I think he did something to

1438
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: you that day and you went and you partner yourself

1439
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: with him, and he was going, Jake, don't, He's gone, Jake,

1440
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: please don't. And you just had him there and were

1441
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: like strangling him like a python and Brad typical parks.

1442
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: He just had no fight.

1443
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: He was just there a jellyfish and it's like, all right,

1444
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: you rest the rest.

1445
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: It was so funny.

1446
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: Thanks Jakie, Jokie, you're a champion. Mate. Look mate, we've

1447
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: as a family and and you know, we've admired the

1448
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: way you hold yourself, the way you've played, and good

1449
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: on your mate. There's still a lot of years for

1450
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: you to come, a lot of tomorrow so hopefully you

1451
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: get that premiership. Yeah, we're all going to die one day, okay, Yeah,

1452
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: than