Speaker 1: I'm going to an owl three sixty regul league from
Speaker 1: every angle joining me in the Great Gordon tell us
Speaker 1: it's been the general Australian James Hooper and Michael carry
Speaker 1: on us and what a huge week it has been.
Speaker 1: And guess what to talk about DC again? But what
Speaker 1: about the reaction? You guys have watched it from more
Speaker 1: close close, But I was gonna say from afar, but
Speaker 1: you can't avoid this situation.
Speaker 2: Have you seen it? Hoops? Oh?
Speaker 3: Huge week.
Speaker 4: I think it's opened up a lot of old wounds
Speaker 4: at the Manly Seagulls because we always seem to see
Speaker 4: with contracts and DCE that he has got a history
Speaker 4: of generating a lot of headlines. So I know amongst
Speaker 4: a lot of the ex players there's been a lot
Speaker 4: of talking behind the scenes and it's polarized a lot
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 5: There's plenty of intrigue around it, obviously, how it played
Speaker 5: out and the reasons for DCE leaving it and what
Speaker 5: his future may be next. It has asked a lot
Speaker 5: of questions in and around the Manly Club and the
Speaker 5: game as a whole.
Speaker 2: You any clearly we've been here for days now.
Speaker 6: That suit breathe I love it.
Speaker 7: The brown no brown.
Speaker 6: Look, you don't know where it's that Manly dce, but
Speaker 6: you know he's not going to do this if he
Speaker 6: doesn't have a club to go to.
Speaker 7: So that's where he's going to land. But why did
Speaker 7: it happen?
Speaker 1: I suppose Who's what we've heard today or what you've
Speaker 1: heard is he actually asked for a release maybe once
Speaker 1: even twice last year or was it just the one time?
Speaker 2: And we'll talk us through that.
Speaker 4: It feels as though this story has been brewing for
Speaker 4: a long time. So Dalley definitely went to the Manly
Speaker 4: Seagulls in the off season of twenty twenty four and
Speaker 4: actually asked for a release then, so it was a
Speaker 4: tick over twelve months ago. I believe he unasked put
Speaker 4: that request forward once, but certainly rival clubs are aware
Speaker 4: of it, and now that this is all blown up
Speaker 4: the way that it has, it's become a discussion point.
Speaker 4: Mainly as far as I'm aware, have obviously kiboshed that
Speaker 4: and rejected it because he played there all of last season.
Speaker 4: But it does feels now that we know that, it
Speaker 4: feels as though this hasn't been a snap decision or
Speaker 4: this hasn't been a decision that he's only been sitting
Speaker 4: on for three or four months.
Speaker 3: So what has just been ongoing?
Speaker 6: What is a guy that had a ten year deal
Speaker 6: pretty much their captain want that?
Speaker 2: What went so wrong?
Speaker 4: I think Gordon, when you peel it all back and
Speaker 4: cut through all the BS, I actually think it's all
Speaker 4: about money.
Speaker 3: And I don't have a beef with that.
Speaker 4: I don't begrudge players earning as much as they possibly
Speaker 4: can in the short career window that they have. But
Speaker 4: if you really want to cut through all the red
Speaker 4: tape and all the BS that's been spun and flippered
Speaker 4: and gone over this week, I think the reality is
Speaker 4: that Mainly could only afford to offer DC around seven
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars a season on the open market. You
Speaker 4: look at Dylan Brown, he's getting one point three. I
Speaker 4: think that's turned his head. And I think even prior
Speaker 4: to that, I think he's gone, you know what, I
Speaker 4: can go somewhere else A lot.
Speaker 2: I think it goes both ways a bit.
Speaker 1: They've low board, if if at all, I think mainly
Speaker 1: were unsure even if they wanted to resign him so
Speaker 1: and he's felt disrespected.
Speaker 2: In my opinion.
Speaker 5: You think seven fifty is a low board breath like
Speaker 5: seven fifty seven hundred. They did not from contract, but
Speaker 5: this week they did. This week they did. His decision
Speaker 5: was already made, it was made right. But my point,
Speaker 5: I'm not a low board. They haven't actually offered him anything.
Speaker 5: They have an off himunity, yeah, but they haven't lowboard,
Speaker 5: and they haven't come and said he's a five hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars contract.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that the fact they didn't
Speaker 1: offer him anything, and talking about DC and his character
Speaker 1: and his standards and the way that he is as
Speaker 1: a human being, he's felt disrespected. So he's just made
Speaker 1: that call really early. And whether he's asked for a
Speaker 1: release because of that really thought. You know what, these
Speaker 1: guys don't really value me, they don't want me. They're
Speaker 1: not even putting an offer forward to me, so why
Speaker 1: not go somewhere else?
Speaker 8: I agree.
Speaker 5: What the thing that mainly should have done differently is
Speaker 5: put a formal offer on the table when they thought
Speaker 5: they had that opportunity, not this week. Should have been
Speaker 5: done a month or two ago, only for twelve months,
Speaker 5: just to put the ball back in Daily's favor and
Speaker 5: see what he wanted to do and come back to
Speaker 5: him with a formal answer. The fact they didn't give
Speaker 5: him a formal offer until this week, I can't understand
Speaker 5: why he's been agreeable.
Speaker 1: They were waiting to see if any other clubs had
Speaker 1: put a formal offer to him. With all due respect,
Speaker 1: I think Daily has just thought, well, I'm the haven't
Speaker 1: told them. They probably have had formal offers. They just
Speaker 1: haven't gone back to mainly because his decision was already made.
Speaker 4: Well clearly though, if he has gone to the club
Speaker 4: a tick over twelve months ago and asked for that release,
Speaker 4: stand you don't ask for a release unless you've got
Speaker 4: somewhere else to go, So at that point in time,
Speaker 4: there has still been another club who was going to
Speaker 4: be at the table with a significant amount of money.
Speaker 4: I think Daly's a sharp character, right. He's been around
Speaker 4: the game fifteen seasons. He understands the business side of it,
Speaker 4: and he understands his own market value. I think he's
Speaker 4: looked at what other players in key positions are earning,
Speaker 4: and I think he thought, you know what, everything I'll
Speaker 4: put into this game.
Speaker 3: As much as he is manly, I think he feels as.
Speaker 2: Did manly really did they really want him? Though?
Speaker 1: Because the feeling is long, the longer the drags out.
Speaker 1: You know, we were quite focused on DC when it
Speaker 1: first broke because we were shocked, but we didn't know
Speaker 1: the background. Now we know the background, it feels to
Speaker 1: me like mainly didn't really show any urgency and did
Speaker 1: they really.
Speaker 5: Want him and how much did they value I don't
Speaker 5: think they're doing Kyle Wills that is out the door break,
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 8: I don't think that happened. I don't think they happen. No, No,
Speaker 8: I don't think they're happy that he's going. I think.
Speaker 5: Well, I think, as I said before, I think if
Speaker 5: they had their time over again, they would have put
Speaker 5: a formal offer to him.
Speaker 2: But to me, they're not happy.
Speaker 1: If they're not worried, then if they had their time again,
Speaker 1: would they put a manly thought manly thought.
Speaker 5: I'm not Let's be clear. I'm not saying they're happy
Speaker 5: that he's leaving. They're unhappy about it. They would love
Speaker 5: to keep him for twelve more months and assess it
Speaker 5: year by year.
Speaker 2: So why didn't they do it?
Speaker 4: Because I think what they were led to believe over
Speaker 4: the course of December that in all likelihood Daily was
Speaker 4: either going to retire or he was going to go overseas.
Speaker 4: Now they were conveniently so they have conveniently believed that
Speaker 4: because maybe they were beginning to plan for life after Daily.
Speaker 4: But I think once he started the season in such
Speaker 4: red hot form, and I mean he's a captain of
Speaker 4: the club, he's the most cat player in the history
Speaker 4: of the Seagulls, I'm still stunned that he's not going
Speaker 4: to be there. But I think they realized the magnitude
Speaker 4: of it, and clearly they knew that they needed to
Speaker 4: get a formal offer on the time.
Speaker 6: But surely if he asked for a release and then
Speaker 6: he said and like, you haven't gone to him from December,
Speaker 6: there's got to be something wrong and there's no pipeline.
Speaker 6: So there's what seven hundred thousand to go replace Daly
Speaker 6: Cherry Evans?
Speaker 7: Is that the money they got there? So there's no
Speaker 7: planning then, well, no.
Speaker 4: Forward planned in the They've got a couple of good
Speaker 4: young kids that they.
Speaker 5: Think are going to be long term first graders, but
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to be ready next year.
Speaker 5: That's the that's the issue that mainly faced now do
Speaker 5: they move Tom Travoivage, do they look to the open
Speaker 5: markets on Adam Reynolds to.
Speaker 4: Potentially That's when the talk is that they could potentially
Speaker 4: move Loue.
Speaker 1: It's a big change for time and no one's really
Speaker 1: spoken about it in detail. But you know, from fullback
Speaker 1: to defending at three, which is what you do in
Speaker 1: the halves and having to make decisions and release quickly
Speaker 1: and look at you cover your in So I try
Speaker 1: to work with defenders either side of if it's not
Speaker 1: something you just do over an open.
Speaker 2: Game, you know, kicking game.
Speaker 1: He'd be great for a kick chase, he'd be great
Speaker 1: runner of the balls are half. But it's a huge
Speaker 1: transition and he's not like Blockier in months, so he's
Speaker 1: a different player. You know, he's a very different player
Speaker 1: and he's very energy, but he's probably different the g
Speaker 1: he's probably more similar to very injury prone to.
Speaker 5: Organize, organize a lot of the attack instructure at mainly
Speaker 5: at the moment. Apparently he's got a real voice in
Speaker 5: there in terms of their game on the field. I
Speaker 5: know Dale is obviously the premier playmaker, but he has
Speaker 5: a lot of.
Speaker 2: Same don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think he will be a very very good half
Speaker 1: like he's Tom Jaboye, which you could put him anywhere,
Speaker 1: and I think you'll do a great job there.
Speaker 2: But it's not going to be that easy now DC.
Speaker 1: He's been paid huge cash over fifteen years hoops And
Speaker 1: is there only a resentment from former teammate to all?
Speaker 4: I think there's resentment definitely from X Manly players who've
Speaker 4: bled for that jumper and won premierships with that jumper. Well,
Speaker 4: because if you go back the twenty sixteen when DC
Speaker 4: did the backflip on the Gold Coast Titans, there are
Speaker 4: a lot of players like that Manly roster, and they
Speaker 4: won a couple of comps, said one one in two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight, they had won one in twenty eleven.
Speaker 4: Ultimately that ended up getting torn apart, and at the
Speaker 4: central to it, a lot of it was Daily and
Speaker 4: the fact that his agents at the time were constantly
Speaker 4: agitating four more money. So I think that certainly amongst
Speaker 4: some of the retired champions, I don't think they've got
Speaker 4: too much of a high opinion of where Daily sits.
Speaker 4: I know that a lot of people in the game
Speaker 4: do have plenty of respect for him, and I also
Speaker 4: think amongst the dressing room.
Speaker 3: Right now, surely there are cracks.
Speaker 4: In that dressing room right now, because well, the players
Speaker 4: that have bled for that jumper.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking the question left for that jumper too.
Speaker 4: New Blokes played new Blake's played right, So someone who's
Speaker 4: been at your club.
Speaker 6: Wasn't going to play against me. He was going to
Speaker 6: rugby and he said that we were going to stay together.
Speaker 6: Of course, it hurts like.
Speaker 7: When you lose someone that's a close mate.
Speaker 4: And so would you feel if Alfie or Kevy did
Speaker 4: that when you're at the Broncos, how would you feel?
Speaker 6: I think you'd be let down because that's the only
Speaker 6: reason I went to play for Brisbane. And there'd be
Speaker 6: a lot of guys that have stayed because of DC
Speaker 6: and they you know what it is, a captain of
Speaker 6: the club and all that, because like that's who you
Speaker 6: look too.
Speaker 3: Really, what about you bring forth?
Speaker 4: There's still twenty five games to go for the rest
Speaker 4: of this season.
Speaker 3: How would you feel?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on situations, Like
Speaker 1: you know, if a player, if a group wants to
Speaker 1: stay together and and win a premiership, a lot of
Speaker 1: players will take certain pay cuts or you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on there, but a lot of
Speaker 1: players will get together and go, okay, we want to
Speaker 1: we want to work together here to win a comp.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened back in the day.
Speaker 1: So I can understand that because it kind of happened.
Speaker 1: We meet the bulldogs, you know, a lot of us
Speaker 1: till pay cuts, and then in the end a couple
Speaker 1: of guys left, and then you know, we he had
Speaker 1: players taking pay cuts and a few blokes who were
Speaker 1: who'd kind of left, well was one of them, you know,
Speaker 1: and then the guys ended up believing. So then you
Speaker 1: look back and go, well, hang on, you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of you know, well, I could have still been
Speaker 1: at the club. And also, you know, a few guys
Speaker 1: probably got moved on as well to keep these two
Speaker 1: big signings, you know who left early.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to know.
Speaker 1: Names because it's a bit disrespectful, but it does happen,
Speaker 1: right and I left, So I don't know if it
Speaker 1: caused any unrest or not, but I mean it could.
Speaker 1: It does have the possibility to do that. I just
Speaker 1: think that you know that they do respect him. I
Speaker 1: know that DC had has spoken because a lot of
Speaker 1: people a little bit. He had spoken to the Tchapoevic
Speaker 1: brothers before he announced it on TV, like the senior players,
Speaker 1: to tell them that he was going to tell publicly
Speaker 1: say that he wasn't going to be there next year.
Speaker 1: So you know there's an element of respect there that
Speaker 1: he's given them the heads up before the decision was made.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for him all the team because I
Speaker 1: don't know where they're at inside.
Speaker 7: You can't fight the Drouvich boys. I think bulldogs.
Speaker 6: I don't know how long ago they offered pretty much
Speaker 6: both of them the farm, so they wouldn't back more
Speaker 6: money to stay, so like they would feel that way.
Speaker 6: And if you look at the bloke here Cooper Kronk
Speaker 6: and Cameron Smith, like when they left, like there was
Speaker 6: a split in the Melbourne film, that's the most recent
Speaker 6: big guy big player and the big three to leave
Speaker 6: a club like it does happen.
Speaker 2: One thing that kind of hasn't been spoken of me.
Speaker 2: It could part of this.
Speaker 1: Shit fight be driven by warring managers Joe Weeby and
Speaker 1: Isaac Moses. Now, can you just explain the background between
Speaker 1: these two agents who they look after and what's kind
Speaker 1: of happened here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fascinating story and subplot.
Speaker 4: So these two used to be thick as thieves. They
Speaker 4: are essentially business partners. Isaac's obviously extremely well known in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 3: Joe Weebe is often referred to.
Speaker 4: As the football whisperer or the halves whisperer, and he
Speaker 4: infiltrated the game. I think it was back with the
Speaker 4: Broncos actually, when Wayne was still up there. They had
Speaker 4: a spectacular bust up and finished up in the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: That was settled out of court because there was a
Speaker 4: risk that a lot of big name players, Cameron Smith,
Speaker 4: James Tedesco, all of their contracts could have all of
Speaker 4: a sudden been brought up in this court case. So
Speaker 4: Isaac actually paid Joe to settle it. They split. Joe
Speaker 4: now looks after Daily, right, so he manages the affairs
Speaker 4: of Daily, whereas Isaac has Anthony Sebold and a hell
Speaker 4: of a lot of other players on the left.
Speaker 1: Isaac to go with Web as well, correct, and Web
Speaker 1: has Robson at the Roosters. Yeah, and is it fair
Speaker 1: to say that these two don't have a good relationship
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: After that?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I think they're off completely. I wouldn't think
Speaker 4: they're speaking.
Speaker 1: Okay, because you know, I spoke to a couple of
Speaker 1: player agents after the show last night, and a few
Speaker 1: of them believe that there's a lot more to this,
Speaker 1: you know, this could you know. I hear what they're saying,
Speaker 1: and I respect what they're saying, and it could possibly
Speaker 1: have an impact on it. But I also think DC
Speaker 1: is a great and he's smart enough to not let
Speaker 1: an agent where he goes.
Speaker 2: I know, but.
Speaker 1: Subconsciously I look at this too goody body. Subconsciously, if
Speaker 1: you've got an agent who is pushing you in one
Speaker 1: direction and he's telling you that you know the club's
Speaker 1: done wrong by you, there's a better opportunity else where.
Speaker 1: Yadadada can enter your mind when you wanted to, It
Speaker 1: can influence you. So I believe, I believe this is
Speaker 1: some sort of influence there. And this is this is
Speaker 1: not just two agents not getting along. This is the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, right And this is an agent who's got
Speaker 1: the head coach Sea Bowl at Many and then key
Speaker 1: players at the Roosters and rumors of him going there.
Speaker 1: So there is a connection, and there's a bit of
Speaker 1: a rivalry.
Speaker 2: That that's behind the scenes here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, they don't get along. I'd think it would
Speaker 4: be a lifetime feud. And look, you'd like to think
Speaker 4: Daily is old enough and ugly enough, and he's burned
Speaker 4: around the lock enough. I don't think that he would
Speaker 4: let that influenced his decision, but I do, But I
Speaker 4: do believe that when you join all those dots, it
Speaker 4: does begin to and peel back the layers.
Speaker 3: It does begin to explain.
Speaker 4: Why there may have been some ill feeling and why
Speaker 4: they've ended up going in different directions.
Speaker 3: And Daily is now going to walk out.
Speaker 1: There, and also I think strengthens that link to the
Speaker 1: russ Yes, when you peel it all back, yep, all right,
Speaker 1: the two most powerful negotiators, they're trying to get him.
Speaker 1: They hate losing, and these two could end up going
Speaker 1: toe to toe the art of the deal. If you
Speaker 1: talk about negotiations and you talk about getting deals done,
Speaker 1: there are no better than these two heavyweights of our game.
Speaker 2: Feel Good and Nick Politis.
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that here we are now both searching
Speaker 1: for a number seven, both in a position of power,
Speaker 1: and both the best negotiators Our game is probably ever
Speaker 1: seen or close to it, and could well be going
Speaker 1: head to head here to get the signature of DC and.
Speaker 5: They're finally back on after a long I'm.
Speaker 2: So sure about that me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd say, because they.
Speaker 8: Hadn't spoken for years and then cross pass and.
Speaker 1: They had a big fall now, so I don't know
Speaker 1: where they're at the moment, so that that adds some
Speaker 1: intrigue to it as well. I think they have crossed.
Speaker 1: Pasm in Vegas said the Nines. They's a bit more
Speaker 1: civil than I'm not so sure. It was high fives
Speaker 1: and you know, let's go.
Speaker 4: They hadn't spoken since the Latrell Mitchell Joey Marnho fall
Speaker 4: out between the Russes in the South.
Speaker 3: I look at some of these names.
Speaker 4: So in terms of Nick and the signatures that he's
Speaker 4: secured over the years. Freddie Fitler all the way back
Speaker 4: in ninety six. Gus also came with him at the time.
Speaker 4: Sunny Bill Williams back from rugby union. That was a
Speaker 4: huge deal because he'd been banned from the NRL for
Speaker 4: a long period of time after the way he walked
Speaker 4: out on the game. James Tedesco from the West Tigers
Speaker 4: and of course the Cooper Kronk coup that led the
Speaker 4: two premierships over to the Bulldogs and Canterbury Banks Down
Speaker 4: and August at Penrith as well. Freddie Fittler, Matt Burton,
Speaker 4: Villi Army kick Our. Cameron Serraldo is a big one
Speaker 4: what he's achieved.
Speaker 1: He was the most short how many clubs were chasing
Speaker 1: him at the time, all.
Speaker 4: Of them know, every club that was looking for a
Speaker 4: coach wanted him because he was the hottest young gun
Speaker 4: coach on the market. And Stephen Crichton is a big
Speaker 4: one too.
Speaker 2: They very rarely missed these two.
Speaker 1: And the reason we bring this up is not because
Speaker 1: that DC's definitely going on either of these two clubs,
Speaker 1: but they are the two favorites right now and they've
Speaker 1: got the two of the most powerful figures in our
Speaker 1: game and best negotiators. That could end up in a
Speaker 1: bit of a slinging match. So get the popcorn out.
Speaker 1: This could be exciting.
Speaker 4: Well, you're talking about the art of the deal, Braith,
Speaker 4: these two and what they've been able to do for
Speaker 4: their respective clubs over the years. They are the best
Speaker 4: negotiators in rugby league, second to none. Both of them
Speaker 4: out there fight tooth and nail through the Super League War.
Speaker 4: So they have so many years of experience. They've negotiated
Speaker 4: with everybody from James Packard, Alan Jones, you name it,
Speaker 4: across the years. This will be a fascinating battle because
Speaker 4: when it comes to closing a deal, there's a view
Speaker 4: that Gus and Nick there's not a.
Speaker 3: Lot between them.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: I've actually previously heard Nick say, you think Gus is
Speaker 4: the best closer?
Speaker 6: He said off the top of the shower. Comes down
Speaker 6: to money. So who's got more money to spend?
Speaker 8: I think the question would have more than the Boardogs
Speaker 8: at the moment.
Speaker 5: I think the Roosters would with all the players that
Speaker 5: they've lost. They've signed Reese Robson for next year, but
Speaker 5: the Dogs have already signed Leo Thompson on a tight
Speaker 5: salary cap, so they wouldn't have as much wiggle room
Speaker 5: as the Rooster.
Speaker 6: So when it comes down to who do you think
Speaker 6: is going to win a camp? Does DC really want
Speaker 6: to win another comp? It's got to be part of.
Speaker 3: His Yeah, he's a professional. Of course he's going to
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 2: Win and he probably wants to stay in Sydney.
Speaker 1: There is a talk of Queensland and no one's Bonny
Speaker 1: Mean's ruling that out. But DC very happy in the
Speaker 1: Northern Beaches. He's got I think three daughters. Is it
Speaker 1: that they will go to school in the northern Beaches.
Speaker 1: He's I think his partners from Sydney, I believe. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure on that one, but I know they're very settled.
Speaker 1: So the whole fascination around Queensland maybe ten years.
Speaker 7: Ago up there.
Speaker 2: To guys, it's interesting.
Speaker 7: School in Queensland. Yes, I didn't go off a lot
Speaker 7: of girls.
Speaker 2: That was a good one.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: If you speak to people north of the border, right,
Speaker 4: they're all very bullish.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's going to the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: So they believe they're more for the border.
Speaker 4: The majority of view is that absolutely, they say will.
Speaker 3: Beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Because his old man played at the club, he was
Speaker 4: a junior at Redcliffe.
Speaker 3: There is family history there there.
Speaker 5: It comes back to your question you asked Gordy around
Speaker 5: does he want to win a premiership? Because if he does,
Speaker 5: you're going to the Roosters or the Bulldogs well ahead
Speaker 5: of the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: And what's in their favor as opposed to the Dolphins
Speaker 1: is that premiership we gave but also there's still got.
Speaker 2: A lot of money.
Speaker 6: But why we've rutten off mainly if you look at
Speaker 6: the droid, which is if you look at how young
Speaker 6: and fast they are, they've got enough talent.
Speaker 8: No, I'm not writing mainly off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, without.
Speaker 8: The comition, I disagree.
Speaker 4: Look, it's a possibility, it was a possibility prior to this.
Speaker 3: I actually think this now right.
Speaker 4: I understand the reasoning behind why Daily has done what
Speaker 4: he's done, but I think it causes to the point
Speaker 4: that your Blake's alluded to earlier, I do think it
Speaker 4: can cause irrefutable damage inside the.
Speaker 1: Dress because of what you're putting the line through them
Speaker 1: there going.
Speaker 4: I don't think they can win the com off the
Speaker 4: back of It's going.
Speaker 5: To cause them more grief, is tanelor forcas see the
Speaker 5: ending injury because their weakness is their strength in the middle,
Speaker 5: and he was one of the pillows.
Speaker 4: With all due respect, yes that's going to hurt, but
Speaker 4: not as much as the captain and the Blake has
Speaker 4: played more games than any jumper. It doesn't matter the
Speaker 4: fact that he's walking out the door. What message is
Speaker 4: that sending to the rest of the group. It doesn't
Speaker 4: want to be with.
Speaker 3: Him this season.
Speaker 8: You're not going to see him turn his up. Believe
Speaker 8: he's going to start. He'll pay the champion that he is,
Speaker 8: and I think will be fine.
Speaker 1: They're still going to prove themselves that they can play
Speaker 1: like they do at four pointswhere. They've got to beat
Speaker 1: the top teams away from four points as well that
Speaker 1: they are very good.
Speaker 8: If they run hot, I think they could win the comp.
Speaker 2: At the right time, at the right time.
Speaker 1: We're talking of signings with DC leaving will mainly look
Speaker 1: to extend Turbo and Jake's deals. Is Jake said to
Speaker 1: take a bit of a haircut?
Speaker 4: Maybe, well, this is going to be the next big
Speaker 4: story out of the Northern Beaches break is both Tom
Speaker 4: and Jake are off at the end of twenty six,
Speaker 4: so come November one, they are open to offers from
Speaker 4: rival clubs. Will Jake take a haircut? Look at his
Speaker 4: age and given everything that he's already done for that club,
Speaker 4: I'm sure that they want to pay him the utmost respect,
Speaker 4: but you would think sanity would suggest that given where
Speaker 4: he's at, he's.
Speaker 2: Going to have to take a more.
Speaker 1: He's definitely taking He's taking a pat then has what's
Speaker 1: he worth now?
Speaker 8: So manly, I don't know he'd be worth the sixers.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of the clubs that might
Speaker 7: pay him a bit more.
Speaker 8: For one year at the back end of his career.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, you couldn't see Jake leaving.
Speaker 7: That's the problem.
Speaker 4: You know how much that jumper in that club means
Speaker 4: to him. I couldn't see Jake he take ahead, he would,
Speaker 4: he would absolutely, it's a big haircut.
Speaker 2: But what sort of haircut? The ones like you two?
Speaker 7: One too? Straight down?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Wayne Benett has hit out at the inn Roll claiming
Speaker 1: the contract the contract bombshells have overshadowed the game in
Speaker 1: the opening rounds.
Speaker 2: Take a look.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 9: No, I just enjoyed the entertainment that's provide for everybody
Speaker 9: else in the game. The critic the sillinger of us
Speaker 9: as a game were allowed that to happen. It does
Speaker 9: nothing for the game. There's nothing for the club. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's it's wrong and I wish we'd fix it. Absolutely, absolutely,
Speaker 9: absolutely we hit the self destruct. But we're four weeks
Speaker 9: in a football season which has already provided some great
Speaker 9: football the whole focus is on, you know, what a
Speaker 9: couple of players have done, so clubs have done whatever,
Speaker 9: whatever the case. I'm not putting blame on either part,
Speaker 9: but it just shouldn't happen. Shouldn't shouldn't be allowed to happen.
Speaker 1: The master coach there is, Wayne Bennett, believes we shouldn't
Speaker 1: be in this position right now.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't happen. He's got a fair point.
Speaker 7: I mean, is that for the coaches as well the
Speaker 7: last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll dive into this now, but he makes
Speaker 1: a fair point. All the attention this week and you know,
Speaker 1: and for the next few weeks is going to be
Speaker 1: on DCU, and it's going to take away from the spectacle,
Speaker 1: which is our amazing game, which for the first three
Speaker 1: rounds has been spectacular. So it's a fair point. How
Speaker 1: do you guys see it?
Speaker 8: It is a fair point.
Speaker 5: As you said, we've hit the self destruct button and
Speaker 5: fans don't like it.
Speaker 8: Fundamentally.
Speaker 5: Fans don't like it when you know their player is
Speaker 5: signing elsewhere or moving on elsewhere and they've got to
Speaker 5: watch him for twelve months. As a from a journalistic
Speaker 5: point of view, I love November one, right, because we
Speaker 5: get to talk about it and speculate and go through
Speaker 5: it all season. But I can understand why fans aren't
Speaker 5: happy with it. Will a trade window work on?
Speaker 8: I don't know. We had to drine thirty before and
Speaker 8: that was a joke.
Speaker 5: You know, we all know that was a myth and
Speaker 5: July one, all these players were signing left, right, and center.
Speaker 8: So what a trade window work? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've seen Dylan Brown Bird at Combat Stadium. Will
Speaker 4: be interesting to see what sort of reception daily Jerry
Speaker 4: Evans gets at four points Sunday. But there's no question
Speaker 4: if you look at the overseas sports they do run
Speaker 4: it a lot smoother with the way that they roll
Speaker 4: with trade windows, whether it's the NFL, NBA, other codes here.
Speaker 4: I can understand where Wayne's coming from. But I'm bugging
Speaker 4: if I know what the solution is because every time
Speaker 4: that we raise it, do you end up getting all
Speaker 4: these different arguments from various vested interests in the game,
Speaker 4: and no one ever seems to have the perfect solution.
Speaker 4: They've tried a draft previously that was challenged in court
Speaker 4: and failed, So how do you fix it?
Speaker 6: It all depends what hat you got on. As a fan,
Speaker 6: I don't like it. As a player, I knew where
Speaker 6: I was going and I didn't have the options that
Speaker 6: players are having these days. But as a player, now,
Speaker 6: do you need to know where you're going to get
Speaker 6: your kids in school and all that kind of.
Speaker 2: Stucket As a TV host, no, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't like coming in here at work and taking
Speaker 6: away from the game. It doesn't change my life talking
Speaker 6: about where players are going to play. But as a fan,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm with Gordy and I think because you know, this
Speaker 1: is one instance, probably as an ex player, where you
Speaker 1: feel it a bit more because you know, we are
Speaker 1: all about the fans. He shows all about the fans.
Speaker 1: That's why we do it. The broadcast of Fox Leagues
Speaker 1: all about the fans. We wanted to be the best spectacle.
Speaker 1: We want everyone to watch you when everyone to enjoy
Speaker 1: it and have a great time and celebrate the game
Speaker 1: and the players. But you also got to look from
Speaker 1: a players perspective, and you know you look at that's
Speaker 1: the point. Yeah, you look at even Dylan Brown for example,
Speaker 1: which no one's going to feel sorry for him, but
Speaker 1: like he signs a thirty million dollar deal. If there's
Speaker 1: no trade window and he gets injured this year playing
Speaker 1: for Parrel, he may be a bad example.
Speaker 2: But just to give you an.
Speaker 1: Example, you know that thirty dollars thirty million, million dollar deal.
Speaker 2: Is not there.
Speaker 1: He may be on four or five hundred for three years.
Speaker 1: It's a big significant difference. There's a lot of players
Speaker 1: that if they secure their future, they've got kids, they've
Speaker 1: got wives, they've got houses and mortgages. Not everyone's on
Speaker 1: one point five million dollars. By the way, there's players
Speaker 1: on three hundred two fifty four fifty take tax.
Speaker 2: Away from that.
Speaker 1: They're trying to you know, set their family up or
Speaker 1: at least be able to own a home by the
Speaker 1: time they're finished. There's no security whatsoever, and a career
Speaker 1: only lasts, you know, on average, two to three or
Speaker 1: four years for a first go Wleague player. You know,
Speaker 1: so to not know where you're going to go, and
Speaker 1: to get to just a two week or three week
Speaker 1: or four week window when you could be going it
Speaker 1: with an ACL done at the back end of the
Speaker 1: season and you've got no money on the table, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a high risk for players, and there's a
Speaker 1: high risk e each time they step on that field,
Speaker 1: unfortunately for the fans and everyone who doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: They've got to protect the players in some way. You know,
Speaker 1: there's got to be some advantage there to the player.
Speaker 4: But what do you Your point is, Brath, are you
Speaker 4: saying you're okay with this current system?
Speaker 1: Listen, it's not ideal, But I don't think the trade
Speaker 1: window is the answer. I don't you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the answer is, but I think a trade
Speaker 1: window there would put a lot of players at risk,
Speaker 1: you know, of not securing their future, knowing where their
Speaker 1: future lies.
Speaker 4: You touched on how much everybody at Fox League loves
Speaker 4: the game and loves the fact that it is all
Speaker 4: about the fans. We had Peter Landi's come on this
Speaker 4: program and make that very point. If you look at
Speaker 4: the numbers in recent times, the television ratings off the charts, right,
Speaker 4: and the reason is because the fans are riding the
Speaker 4: wave of every week towards every game, all the nuances,
Speaker 4: all the drama, all the for everything. This is my
Speaker 4: point this week, I think, right. I've often heard Maddie
Speaker 4: John say that Aby League is theater for blokes and
Speaker 4: this is all part of the intrigue. Now, whether it's
Speaker 4: right or wrong, and whether it's the best possible system,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but I know that on building sites
Speaker 4: and at pubs and clubs all around Australia.
Speaker 6: For year Blue White Rouver like there was optimism with
Speaker 6: it right and then Penetha disappointed. So I get all that.
Speaker 6: I get like there's a set of fans, but maybe
Speaker 6: it's just all the clauses so every year and it
Speaker 6: can drag out, like the bloke's coming off contract next
Speaker 6: year and we're talking about like maybe maybe it's.
Speaker 7: The length that we talk about.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe I mean instead of saying whether it's six
Speaker 6: months or four, I don't know how big the window is.
Speaker 6: So there's a long time to get the deal in.
Speaker 6: But we're talking about a bloke that can't move till two.
Speaker 1: You it's worth a definite discussion if hopefully we can
Speaker 1: find a solution with everyone's happy. But to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever going to be the case.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a tricky one. Now, Well, the Knights
Speaker 1: make a play for Brown to move early. We know,
Speaker 1: we spoke about it with Jimmy Graham suggesting it. We
Speaker 1: had HEINDI saying last night, but he thinks should he
Speaker 1: should go early, but he's it a releasting chance of
Speaker 1: actually happening.
Speaker 5: Not yet great, but I think before June thirty it
Speaker 5: could play out because you look at the Paramatta situation
Speaker 5: at the moment. Obviously Dylan Brown's on big money, is
Speaker 5: not performing there. They're hampered a little bit because of
Speaker 5: Mitch Moses' injury. So I think once Mitch Moses comes
Speaker 5: back and get a gauge on to see how they're performing,
Speaker 5: it could happen. On the flip side, you've got the
Speaker 5: Newcastle Knights too, you know, think they'll be in finals contention,
Speaker 5: and they're optimistic the fact that Dylan's not playing well.
Speaker 5: They believe that you get him to that club and
Speaker 5: you've got Kaylon Ponger and a few others in there,
Speaker 5: that he would lift his game.
Speaker 4: But Newcastle would have to to be able to make for.
Speaker 8: Sure, for sure, they have to make it relevant.
Speaker 2: Have we heard anything from Paramatta whether new.
Speaker 3: Car I think they're having conversations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, obviously to the next point they want. They
Speaker 4: obviously had Mitchell Moses back, right, that's first things first.
Speaker 4: But I think once Mitch is back and if he's
Speaker 4: going to be okay and be able to remain on
Speaker 4: the field. And I think they look at it because
Speaker 4: it hasn't really been working so far this season, and.
Speaker 5: I would save them a fair bit in salary cap
Speaker 5: money that they can play around with it and into
Speaker 5: next season.
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