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Speaker 1: the General Australian, James Hooper and Michael Carriyanus. And what

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Speaker 1: a huge week it has been. And guess what to

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Speaker 2: Have you seen it? Hoops? Oh? Huge week.

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Speaker 3: I think it's opened up a lot of old wounds

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Speaker 4: There's plenty of intrigue around it, obviously, how it played

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Speaker 2: You any clearly we've been here for three days now.

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Speaker 5: That suit breathe.

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Speaker 2: I love it. The brown no brown.

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Speaker 6: Look, you don't know where it's that Manly dce, but

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Speaker 1: I suppose Who's what we've heard today or what you've

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk us through that.

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Speaker 3: It feels as though this story has been brewing for

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Speaker 3: Mainly as far as I'm aware, have obviously kiboshed that

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Speaker 7: Three or four months. So what has just been ongoing?

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Speaker 6: What is a guy that had a ten year deal

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Speaker 2: What went so wrong?

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Speaker 3: I think Gordon, when you peel it all back and

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Speaker 3: I don't begrudge players earning as much as they possibly

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Speaker 2: I think it goes both ways a bit.

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Speaker 1: They've low board, if if at all, I think mainly

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, you think seven fifty is a low

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Speaker 2: This week they did. His decision was already made, it

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Speaker 4: They haven't actually offered him anything.

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Speaker 2: They have an off himunity, yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: They haven't lowboard, and they haven't come and said he's

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that the fact they didn't

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Speaker 2: So he's just made that call really early.

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Speaker 1: And whether he's asked for a release because of that

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Speaker 1: They were waiting to see if any other clubs had

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Speaker 1: I think Daily has just thought, well, I'm not haven't

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Speaker 3: Well clearly though, if he has gone to the club

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Speaker 3: a tick over twelve months ago and asked for that release,

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Speaker 3: stand you don't ask for a release unless you've got

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Speaker 3: I think Daly's a sharp character, right. He's been around

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Speaker 3: the game fifteen seasons. He understands the business side of it,

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Speaker 3: put into this game. As much as he is manly,

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Speaker 2: Did manly really did they really want him? Though?

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Speaker 1: Because the feeling is long, the longer the drags out.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were quite focused on d C when

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Speaker 2: Now we know the background, it.

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Speaker 1: Feels to me like mainly didn't really show any urgency

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Speaker 4: Don't think they're doing Kyle Wills that is out the

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Speaker 4: that he's going.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, as I said before, I think if

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Speaker 2: But to me, they're not happy.

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Speaker 1: If they're not worried, then if they had their time again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not let's speak clear. I'm not saying they're happy

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Speaker 2: So why didn't they do it?

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Speaker 3: Because I think what they were led to believe over

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Speaker 2: Now they were.

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Speaker 3: Conveniently prop so they have conveniently believed that because maybe

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Speaker 7: But I think once he started.

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Speaker 3: The season in such red hot form, and I mean

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Speaker 6: But surely if he asked for a release and then

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Speaker 6: there's got to be something wrong. And there's no pipeline.

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Speaker 6: So there's what seven hundred thousand to go replace Daly

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Speaker 5: So there's no planning then, well, no.

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Speaker 3: Forward planned in the They've got a couple of good

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Speaker 4: That they think are going to be long term first graders,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think they're going to be ready next year.

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Speaker 2: It's not something you just do over an open game,

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Speaker 1: He'd be great for a kick chase, he'd be great

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Speaker 1: transition and he's not like Blockier in months, so he's

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Speaker 4: Organize, organize a lot of the attack instructure at mainly

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Speaker 2: But it's not going to be that easy now DC.

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Speaker 1: He's been paid huge cash over fifteen years hoops and

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Speaker 3: All I think there's resentment definitely from x manly players

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Speaker 3: Ultimately that ended up getting torn apart, and at the

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Speaker 3: the fact that his agents at the time were constantly

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking the question led for that jumper too.

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Speaker 7: New Blakes played.

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Speaker 3: New Blake's played right, So someone who's been at your club.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't going to play against me.

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Speaker 6: He was going to rugby and he said that we

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Speaker 7: And so would you feel if Alfie or Kevy did

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Speaker 6: I think you'd be let down because that's the only

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Speaker 7: Really, what about you bring forth?

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Speaker 3: There's still twenty five games to go for the rest

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Speaker 7: How would you feel?

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Speaker 1: players will take certain pay cuts or you know, I

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Speaker 7: And that's exactly what happened back in the day.

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Speaker 2: So I can understand that because it kind of happened.

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Speaker 1: It does happen, right and I left, So I don't

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Speaker 1: I just think that you know that they do respect him.

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Speaker 1: I know that DC had has spoken because a lot

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Speaker 5: You can't fight the Drouvich boys. I think bulldogs.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how long ago they offered pretty much

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Speaker 6: And if you look at the bloke here Cooper Kronk

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Speaker 1: One thing that kind of hasn't been spoken without that

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Speaker 1: managers Joe Weeby and Isaac Moses. Now, can you just

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Speaker 1: explain that the background between these two agents who they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fascinating story and subplot. So these two

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Speaker 7: Joe Weebe is often referred to.

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Speaker 3: James Tedesco, all of their contracts could have all of

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Speaker 3: Isaac actually paid Joe to settle it.

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Speaker 7: They split.

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Speaker 3: Joe now looks after Daily, right, so he manages the

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Speaker 3: affairs of Daily, whereas Isaac has Anthony Sebold and a

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Speaker 1: Isaac to go with Web as well, correct, and Web

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Speaker 3: After that, I wouldn't I think they're off completely. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, because you know, I spoke to a couple of

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Speaker 1: you know, this could you know. I hear what they're saying,

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Speaker 1: look at this too, goody body. Subconsciously, if you've got

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Speaker 1: he's telling you that you know the club's done wrong

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Speaker 1: by you, there's a better opportunity else where. Yaada can

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Speaker 1: enter your mind when you want to, it can influence you.

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Speaker 1: So I believe. I believe this is some sort of

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Speaker 1: agents not getting along. This is the Supreme Court, right

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Speaker 1: And this is an agent who's got the head coach

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, they don't get along. I'd think it would

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Speaker 3: be a lifetime feud. And look, you'd like to think

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Speaker 3: Daily is old enough and ugly enough, and he's burned

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Speaker 3: around the block enough. I don't think that he would

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Speaker 3: let that influenced his decision, but I do, But I

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Speaker 3: do believe that when you join all those dots, it

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Speaker 3: begin to explain why there may have been some ill

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Speaker 7: And Daily is now going to walk out.

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Speaker 1: There, And also I think strengthens that link to the

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Speaker 1: russ Yes, when you peel it all back, yep, all right,

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Speaker 1: the two most powerful negotiators, they're trying to get him.

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Speaker 1: They hate losing, and these two could end up going

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Speaker 1: toe to toe.

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Speaker 2: The art of the deal.

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Speaker 1: If you talk about negotiations and you talk about getting

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Speaker 1: deals done, there are no better than these two heavyweights

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Speaker 2: Feel Good and Nick Politis.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that here we are now both searching

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Speaker 4: And they're finally back on after a long.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sure about that me.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if i'd say, because they.

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Speaker 4: Hadn't spoken for years and then crosss pass.

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Speaker 1: And they had a big fall now, so I don't

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Speaker 1: Pasm in Vegas said the Nines. They's a bit more

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Speaker 1: civil than I'm not so sure. It was high fives

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Speaker 1: and you know, let's go.

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Speaker 3: They hadn't spoken since the Latrell Mitchell Joey Marnho fall

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Speaker 7: The Russes in the South. I look at some of

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Speaker 3: So in terms of Nick and the signatures that he's

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Speaker 3: secured over the years. Freddie Fitler all the way back

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Speaker 3: what he's achieved.

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Speaker 7: He was the most short.

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Speaker 2: How many clubs were chasing him at the time.

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Speaker 3: Well all of them, you know, every club that was

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Speaker 2: They very rarely missed these two.

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Speaker 1: And the reason we bring this up is not because

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Speaker 2: This could be exciting.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're talking about the art of the deal, Braith,

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Speaker 3: out there fight tooth and nail through the Super League war.

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Speaker 3: So they have so many years of experience. They've negotiated

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: I've actually previously heard Nick say you think Gus is

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Speaker 6: He said off the top of the shower. Comes down

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Speaker 4: I think the question Chat would have more than the

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Speaker 6: It comes down to who do you think is going

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Speaker 2: His Yeah, he's a professional.

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Speaker 7: Of course he's going to want to win.

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Speaker 2: And he probably wants to stay in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: There is a talk of Queensland and no one's bonny

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Speaker 1: Northern Beaches. He's got I think three daughters. Is it

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Speaker 1: He's I think his partners from Sydney, I believe. I'm

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Speaker 2: Years ago up there. To guys, it's interesting school in Queensland. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: A lot of girls.

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Speaker 2: That was a good one. It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: If you speak to people north of the border, right,

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Speaker 3: they're all very bullish.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, he's going to the Dolphins, so.

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Speaker 2: They believe they're more for the border.

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Speaker 3: The majority of view is that absolutely, they say.

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Speaker 7: Will beat the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Because his old man played at the club, he was

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Speaker 4: Back to your question you asked Gordy around does he

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Speaker 1: And what's in their favor as opposed to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money.

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Speaker 6: But why we've rutten off mainly if you look at

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Speaker 6: the Droid whch is if you look at how young

443
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Speaker 6: and fast they are, they've got enough talent.

444
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not writing mainly off.

445
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, without the condition I disagree.

446
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 3: Look, it's a possibility, it was a possibility prior to this.

447
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 3: I actually think this now right. I understand the reasoning

448
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 3: behind why Daily has done what he's done, but I

449
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 3: think it causes to the point that your Blake's alluded

450
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Speaker 3: to earlier, I do think it can cause irrefutable damage inside.

451
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Speaker 1: The dress because of what you're putting the line through

452
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Speaker 1: them there going.

453
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Speaker 3: I don't think they can win the com off the

454
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Speaker 3: back of.

455
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Speaker 4: It's going to cause them more grief, is Taniela forcas

456
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 4: see the ending injury because their weakness is their strength

457
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 4: in the middle, and he was one of the pillows.

458
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Speaker 3: With all due respect, yes that's going to hurt, but

459
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 3: not as much as the captain and the Blake has

460
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 3: played more games than any jumper. It doesn't matter the

461
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 3: fact that he's walking out the door. What message is

462
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 3: that sending to the rest of the group. It doesn't

463
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Speaker 3: want to be with them this season.

464
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Speaker 4: You're not going to see him turn his up. Believe

465
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 4: he's going to start.

466
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Speaker 2: He'll play the champion that he is, and I think.

467
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 4: Will be fine.

468
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Speaker 1: They're still going to prove themselves that they can play

469
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Speaker 1: like they do at four They've got to beat the

470
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Speaker 1: top teams away from four points as well that they

471
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: are very.

472
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Speaker 4: Good if they run hot. I think they could win

473
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 4: the comp.

474
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Speaker 2: At the right time, at the right time.

475
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Speaker 1: We're talking of signings with DC leaving will mainly look

476
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 1: to extend Turbo and Jake's deals. Is Jake said to

477
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Speaker 1: take a bit of a haircut?

478
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: Maybe, Well, this is going to be the next big

479
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: story out of the Northern Beaches break is both Tom

480
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 3: and Jake are off at the end of twenty six,

481
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Speaker 3: so come November one, they are open to offers from

482
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Speaker 3: rival clubs. Will Jake take a haircut? Look at his

483
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 3: age and given everything that he's already done for that club,

484
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that they want to pay him the utmost respect,

485
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 3: but you would think sanity would suggest that given where

486
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Speaker 3: he's at.

487
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Speaker 2: He's going to have to take a more He's definitely

488
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Speaker 2: taking he's taking, then what's he worth now?

489
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 4: So manly, I don't know he'd be worth the sixers.

490
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of the clubs that might

491
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Speaker 6: pay him a bit more for.

492
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Speaker 4: One year at the back end of his career. I

493
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Speaker 4: don't know.

494
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Speaker 7: Well, you couldn't see Jake leaving.

495
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Speaker 5: That's the problem.

496
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Speaker 3: You know how much that jumper in that club means

497
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: to him. I couldn't see Jake he'd take ahead, he would,

498
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: he would absolutely.

499
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Speaker 2: That's a big haircut. But what sort of haircut the

500
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Speaker 2: ones like you two?

501
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 5: It's one too straight down?

502
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: All right?

503
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Speaker 1: Wayne Benett has hit out at the inn Roll, claiming

504
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: the contract the contract bombshells have overshadowed the game in

505
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Speaker 1: the opening rounds.

506
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Speaker 2: Take a look.

507
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 7: No, I didn't.

508
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 8: No, I just enjoyed the entertainments provide for everybody else

509
00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 8: in the game. The critic the sillinger of us as

510
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 8: a game were allowed that to happen. It does nothing

511
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 8: for the game. Theres nothing for the club.

512
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wrong.

513
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 8: And I wish we'd fix it, absolutely, absolutely absolutely we

514
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 8: hit the self destruct. But we're four weeks in football season,

515
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 8: which has already provided some great football.

516
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 7: The whole focus is on, you know, what a.

517
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Speaker 8: Couple of players have done, so clubs have done whatever,

518
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 8: whatever the case. I'm not putting blame on either part,

519
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 8: but it just shouldn't happen. Shouldn't shouldn't be allowed to happen.

520
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: The master coach there is, Wayne Bennett, believes we shouldn't

521
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Speaker 1: be in this position right now. It shouldn't happen. He's

522
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Speaker 1: got a fair point. I mean, is that for the

523
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: coaches as well the last year? Yeah, yeah, we'll dive

524
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: into this now, but he makes a fair point. All

525
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: the attention this week and you know, and for the

526
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: next few weeks is going to be on DCU and

527
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Speaker 1: it's going to take away from the spectacle which is

528
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Speaker 1: our amazing game, which for the first three rounds has

529
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: been spectacular.

530
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Speaker 2: So it's a fair point. How do you guys see it?

531
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Speaker 4: It is a fair point. As you said, we've hit

532
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 4: the self destruct button and fans don't like it. Fundamentally.

533
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 4: Fans don't like it when you know their player is

534
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 4: signing elsewhere or moving on elsewhere and they've got to

535
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 4: watch him for twelve months. As a from a journalistic

536
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: point of view, I love November one right, because we

537
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: get to talk about it and speculate and go through

538
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: it all season. But I can understand why fans aren't

539
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: happy with it. Will a trade window work on? I

540
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: don't know. We had to drine thirty before and that

541
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 4: was a joke. You know, we all know that was

542
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 4: a myth and July one all these players were signing left, right,

543
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: and center. So what a trade window work, I'm not sure.

544
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen Dylan brown Bird at Combat Stadium. Will

545
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: be interesting to see what sort of reception daily Jerry

546
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: Evans gets at four points Sunday. But there's no question

547
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 3: if you look at the overseas sports they do run

548
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: it a lot smoother with the way that they roll

549
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 3: with trade windows, whether it's the NFL, NBA, other codes here.

550
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: I can understand where Wayne's coming from. But I'm bugging

551
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: if I know what the solution is because every time

552
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: that we raise it, do you end up getting all

553
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: these different arguments from various vested interests in the game,

554
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: and no one ever seems to have the perfect solution.

555
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: They've tried a draft previously that was challenged in court

556
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: and failed, So how do you fix it?

557
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Speaker 6: It all depends what hat you got on. As a fan,

558
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 6: I don't like it. As a player, I knew where

559
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 6: I was going and I didn't have the options that

560
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 6: players are having these days. But as a player, now,

561
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 6: do you need to know where you're going to get

562
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 6: your kids in school and all that kind of.

563
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Speaker 2: Stucket As a TV host, no, I don't.

564
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Speaker 6: I don't like coming in here at work and taking

565
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 6: away from the game. It doesn't change my life talking

566
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 6: about where players are going to play. But as a fan,

567
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 6: I don't like.

568
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Speaker 1: I'm with Gordy and I think because you know, this

569
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: is one instance, probably as an ex player, where you

570
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: feel it a bit more because you know, we are

571
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: all about the fans. He shows all about the fans.

572
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: That's why we do it. The broadcast of Fox Leagues

573
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: all about the fans. We wanted to be the best spectacle.

574
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Speaker 1: We want everyone to watch you when everyone to enjoy

575
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Speaker 1: it and have a great time and celebrate the game

576
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: and the players. But you also got to look from

577
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Speaker 1: a players perspective, and you know you look at that's

578
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: the point. Yeah, you look at even Dylan Brown for example,

579
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: which no one's going to feel sorry for him, but

580
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: like he signs a thirty million dollar deal. If there's

581
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: no trade window and he gets injured this year playing

582
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: for Parrel, he may be a bad example.

583
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: But just to give you an.

584
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Example, you know that thirty dollars thirty million dollar, million

585
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: dollar deal is not there. He may be on four

586
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: or five hundred for three years. It's a big significant difference.

587
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: There's a lot of players that if they secure their future,

588
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: they've got kids, they've got wives, they've got houses and mortgages.

589
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Not everyone's on one point five million dollars. By the way,

590
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: there's players on three hundred two fifty four fifty take

591
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: tax away from that. They're trying to you know, set

592
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: their family up or at least be able to own

593
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: a home.

594
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: By the time they're finished.

595
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Speaker 1: There's no security whatsoever, and a career only lasts, you know,

596
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Speaker 1: on average, two to three or four years for a

597
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: first go w league player, you know, so to not

598
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: know where you're going to go, and to get to

599
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: just a two week or three week or four week

600
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: window when you could be going it with an ACL

601
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: done at the back end of the season and you've

602
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: got no money on the table, you know, there's there's

603
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: a high risk for players and there's a high risk

604
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: every time they step on that field, unfortunately for the

605
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: fans and everyone who doesn't like it. They've got to

606
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: protect the players in some way. You know, there's got

607
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: to be some advantage there to the player.

608
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: But what do you Your point is, brath, are you

609
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: saying you're okay with this current system?

610
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: Listen, it's not ideal, But I don't think the trade

611
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: window is the answer. I don't you know, I don't

612
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: know what the answer is, but I think a trade

613
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: window there would put a lot of players at risk,

614
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, of not securing their future, knowing where their

615
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: future lies.

616
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Speaker 3: You touched on how much everybody at Fox League loves

617
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 3: the game and loves the fact that it is all

618
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: about the fans. We had Peter Landi's come on this

619
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: program and make that very point. If you look at

620
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: the numbers in recent times, the television ratings off the

621
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: charts right, and the reason is because the fans are

622
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: riding the wave of every week towards every game, all

623
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Speaker 3: the nuances, all the drama, all before everything. This is

624
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: my point this week, I think, right. I've often heard

625
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Maddie John say that a league is theater for blokes,

626
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: and this is all part of the intrigue.

627
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 7: Now, whether it's right or wrong.

628
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: And whether it's the best possible system, I'm not sure,

629
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: but I know that on building sites and at.

630
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 7: Pubs and clubs all around Australia for.

631
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 6: Year Blue White Rouver like there was optimism with it

632
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 6: right and then Penea disappointed. So I get all that.

633
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 6: I get like there's a set of fans, but maybe

634
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 6: it's just all the clauses so every year and it

635
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 6: can drag out, like the bloke's coming off contract next

636
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 6: year and we're talking about like maybe maybe it's the

637
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 6: length that we talk about. Maybe maybe I mean instead

638
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 6: of saying whether it's six months or four, I don't

639
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 6: know how big the window is. So there's a long

640
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 6: time to get the deal in. But we're talking about

641
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 6: a bloke that can't move till two.

642
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: You it's worth a definite discussion if hopefully we can

643
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: find a solution with everyone's happy. But to be honest,

644
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever going to be the case.

645
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a tricky one. Now, Well, the Knights

646
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: make a play for Brown to move early. We know

647
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: we spoke about it with Jimmy Graham suggesting it we

648
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: had Heindi saying last night that he thinks should he

649
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: should go early.

650
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: But is it a releasting chance of actually happening.

651
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: Not yet great, But I think before June thirty it

652
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: could play out because you look at the Paramatta situation

653
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: at the moment. Obviously Dylan Brown's on big money is

654
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: not performing there. They're hampered a little bit because of

655
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: Mitch Moses' injury. So I think once Mitch Moses comes

656
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: back and get a gauge on to see how they're performing,

657
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: it could happen. On the flip side, you've got the

658
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: Newcastle Knights too, you know, think they'll be in finals contention,

659
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: and they're optimistic the fact that Dylan's not playing well.

660
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: They believe that you get him to that club and

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Speaker 4: you've got Kaylon Ponger and a few others in there,

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Speaker 4: that he would lift his game.

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Speaker 3: But Newcastle would have to to be able.

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Speaker 2: To make for sure, for sure, they have to make relevant.

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Speaker 2: Have we heard anything from Paramatta whether new.

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Speaker 7: Car I think they're having conversations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look obviously to point they want. They obviously had

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Moses back, right, that's first things first.

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Speaker 7: But I think once Mitch is.

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Speaker 3: Back and if he's going to be okay and be

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Speaker 3: able to remain on the field. And I think they

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Speaker 3: look at it because it hasn't really been working so

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Speaker 3: far this season, and.

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Speaker 4: I would save them a fair bit in salary cap

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Speaker 4: money that they can play around with it and into

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Speaker 4: next season.

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Speaker 2: What's this space, Jenna? Is your key player? Matchup? Scored

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Speaker 2: to you by Ozzie Broadband.

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Speaker 3: Battle of Brisbane Friday Night, The Fullbacks, The Hammer and

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Speaker 3: Ruce Lightning.

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Speaker 7: Cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: That'll be an epic game because the Dolphins obviously need

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Speaker 3: to get off the duck.

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Speaker 4: Ye Hoops has gone to the fullbacks. I've gone the props.

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Speaker 4: Throw on mate James Fisher Harris to round out the

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Speaker 4: round with a blockbuster at Cameltown Beauty.

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Speaker 2: What do I need to