1 00:00:03,430 --> 00:00:06,830 Sean Aylmer: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Daily Interview. I'm Sean Aylmer. We've 2 00:00:07,020 --> 00:00:09,560 Sean Aylmer: spoken a lot about how seriously companies are taking their 3 00:00:09,650 --> 00:00:13,270 Sean Aylmer: ESG commitments. After all, their shareholders expect it from them 4 00:00:13,630 --> 00:00:16,860 Sean Aylmer: and it's particularly interesting in the resources sector where miners 5 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:19,739 Sean Aylmer: are required to minimize their impact on the environment while 6 00:00:19,739 --> 00:00:24,130 Sean Aylmer: still running efficient operations. ASX listed copper and gold explorer 7 00:00:24,130 --> 00:00:29,040 Sean Aylmer: QMines is trying to differentiate itself by becoming Australia's first 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,490 Sean Aylmer: zero carbon, copper and gold developer. Andrew Sparke is the 9 00:00:33,490 --> 00:00:36,409 Sean Aylmer: Executive Chairman of QMines and my guest this morning. Andrew, 10 00:00:36,409 --> 00:00:37,300 Sean Aylmer: welcome to Fear and Greed. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,930 Andrew Sparke: Hi, Sean. Thanks for having me. 12 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:42,040 Sean Aylmer: Firstly, tell me about QMines. You listed what must be 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,330 Sean Aylmer: almost 18 months ago and you've got four projects in 14 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,260 Sean Aylmer: Queensland, is that right? 15 00:00:45,550 --> 00:00:49,590 Andrew Sparke: We do, yeah. So we're a Queensland- focused copper and 16 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:53,159 Andrew Sparke: gold exploration and development company. We listed in May of 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Andrew Sparke: last year, raising I think it was about $ 11. 5 million, and of 18 00:00:57,570 --> 00:01:01,320 Andrew Sparke: the four projects, we've got two historic producing mines. So 19 00:01:01,340 --> 00:01:04,980 Andrew Sparke: one's called Warroo copper and gold mine, which is our Southwestern 20 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:08,600 Andrew Sparke: Queensland around Stanthorpe, about three hours out of Brisbane. But 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,630 Andrew Sparke: our main project is called Mount Chalmers, which is only 22 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:15,700 Andrew Sparke: 17Ks from a town called Rockhampton, which is on the 23 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:18,770 Andrew Sparke: coast of Queensland, and that's really where most of the 24 00:01:18,770 --> 00:01:21,209 Andrew Sparke: focus has been sits listing middle of last year. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,060 Sean Aylmer: Okay. I'll get on Mount Chalmers in a moment, but just a 26 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:28,500 Sean Aylmer: quick 101 on gold mining. Presumably gold and copper, they 27 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:30,560 Sean Aylmer: come together when you're exploring, is that right? 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,700 Andrew Sparke: We've got a slightly different mineral style up here which 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,400 Andrew Sparke: is called a VHMS deposit and VHMS deposits, for those 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,730 Andrew Sparke: of your listers who aren't technical are intrusion- related deposits, and 31 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:49,010 Andrew Sparke: they're basically volcanoes under oceans and they generally bear multiple 32 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:52,510 Andrew Sparke: minerals. So at Mount Chalmers, we've got copper gold, silver, 33 00:01:52,510 --> 00:01:56,030 Andrew Sparke: and a silver lead and zinc byproduct. But one of the 34 00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:59,160 Andrew Sparke: great things about VHMS deposits from our perspective as an 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,660 Andrew Sparke: expiration company is the fact that they actually occur in 36 00:02:02,660 --> 00:02:06,380 Andrew Sparke: multiple deposits within a cluster. So up at Mount Chalmers, 37 00:02:06,380 --> 00:02:09,650 Andrew Sparke: we're actually seeing multiple of these sort of intrusions that 38 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:12,410 Andrew Sparke: have come up from lower in the ground bearing these 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Andrew Sparke: minerals. And so it's quite an exciting region for us 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,389 Andrew Sparke: from an exploration perspective because we think that we'll be 41 00:02:19,389 --> 00:02:21,330 Andrew Sparke: able to grow that resource quite strongly over time. 42 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,490 Sean Aylmer: It isn't a new site, in fact, it's been mined on 43 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:27,660 Sean Aylmer: and off since the late 1800s. Take me through the 44 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:31,399 Sean Aylmer: process of QMines and why you decided to redevelop it. 45 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:34,690 Andrew Sparke: Look, I suppose we've got a track record as a 46 00:02:34,690 --> 00:02:39,169 Andrew Sparke: team of finding existing mines and trying to take them back 47 00:02:39,169 --> 00:02:43,139 Andrew Sparke: towards production. So a lot of mines start up when 48 00:02:43,139 --> 00:02:45,400 Andrew Sparke: mineral prices are really strong. They generally go through a 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,269 Andrew Sparke: cycle and then they close down when the economics aren't 50 00:02:48,270 --> 00:02:50,919 Andrew Sparke: as strong, when the prices come off. So saw a 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,370 Andrew Sparke: similar situation here at Mount Chalmers. Or the other situation 52 00:02:55,470 --> 00:02:58,190 Andrew Sparke: is they may have depleted the resource. So the great 53 00:02:58,190 --> 00:03:00,359 Andrew Sparke: thing about the Mount Chalmers deposit is there's still a 54 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,930 Andrew Sparke: lot more copper and gold under the old two open 55 00:03:02,930 --> 00:03:05,570 Andrew Sparke: pits out of Rockhampton there. So really what we're trying to 56 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:07,840 Andrew Sparke: do is we're trying to grow that resource by doing 57 00:03:08,169 --> 00:03:11,450 Andrew Sparke: exploration drilling to try and improve the asset value and improve 58 00:03:11,450 --> 00:03:13,800 Andrew Sparke: the economics for our shareholders and hopefully if we find 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,430 Andrew Sparke: enough, to take it back towards production. But you're right, 60 00:03:16,430 --> 00:03:19,410 Andrew Sparke: it was a historic site and that is quite beneficial from our 61 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:23,820 Andrew Sparke: perspective because there's lots of infrastructure there. There's already a lot 62 00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:27,299 Andrew Sparke: of historic drilling there that tells us a lot about 63 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:30,200 Andrew Sparke: where to try and discover more tons and more ounces of gold 64 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:32,740 Andrew Sparke: and whatnot. So it gives us a lot of... a 65 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:35,580 Andrew Sparke: big headstart or what we call a low capital advantage 66 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:39,360 Andrew Sparke: in trying grow the mine site and grow the value of the asset. 67 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:42,990 Sean Aylmer: How much does technology play a role in this? Surely 68 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:47,050 Sean Aylmer: discovering deposits is easy now than 20 years ago. 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,830 Andrew Sparke: Oh, look at you. You're absolutely right. This particular mine 70 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:56,730 Andrew Sparke: was mined about 40 years ago. So even since we've 71 00:03:56,730 --> 00:03:59,750 Andrew Sparke: come in, we're now using, it sounds silly but back 72 00:03:59,750 --> 00:04:02,770 Andrew Sparke: in the day they largely drafted a lot of the 73 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:06,560 Andrew Sparke: sections and plans and the resources and things using paper 74 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:10,100 Andrew Sparke: and protractors and pencils. So it's really come a long 75 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:13,480 Andrew Sparke: way, everything's digital now. We've got all our drill results are in 76 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:17,080 Andrew Sparke: what we call a 3D digital database, so it gives 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,460 Andrew Sparke: us a lot more visibility on where to go to try and discover 78 00:04:20,540 --> 00:04:25,500 Andrew Sparke: more tons. But also these days, to simplify it, we 79 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:29,380 Andrew Sparke: can fly drones and planes and helicopters over these areas 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Andrew Sparke: and look at things like the density of rock, the 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,480 Andrew Sparke: magnetism of rock, the chargeability of rock and that can 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,460 Andrew Sparke: give us a lot of clues as to how we 83 00:04:37,460 --> 00:04:40,609 Andrew Sparke: can discover more ore. So it's really come a long 84 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:43,179 Andrew Sparke: way and it's improving every single day. 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,230 Sean Aylmer: Okay, now I'm going into areas I know nothing about 86 00:04:47,230 --> 00:04:50,830 Sean Aylmer: here. Surely then you should be more successful as an 87 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:54,799 Sean Aylmer: Explorer than those 40 years ago with all that data. 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Andrew Sparke: Absolutely, and I'm glad you mentioned that word data because 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,770 Andrew Sparke: it really is a data driven business and you're 100% 90 00:05:00,770 --> 00:05:04,729 Andrew Sparke: right. Since acquiring the Mount Chalmers project, we've already identified 91 00:05:04,890 --> 00:05:08,430 Andrew Sparke: another seven deposits around the mine site which we're planning to 92 00:05:08,430 --> 00:05:11,839 Andrew Sparke: drill, obviously kicking off this year. So the benefit of 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,029 Andrew Sparke: technology is we can find things quicker. We can hopefully 94 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:18,370 Andrew Sparke: spend less money. We can be more efficient, I suppose, 95 00:05:18,370 --> 00:05:21,760 Andrew Sparke: in our discovery efforts. There's a lot of talk in the industry 96 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,010 Andrew Sparke: about a lot of the shallow deposits have already been 97 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:30,370 Andrew Sparke: found. That's certainly not the case. Up here at Mount 98 00:05:30,370 --> 00:05:34,140 Andrew Sparke: Chalmers, the historic mine was only mined to about 40 meters and 99 00:05:34,140 --> 00:05:37,349 Andrew Sparke: there's a lot more ore under those pits. And as 100 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:40,679 Andrew Sparke: I say, we've identified, using a lot of technology, about 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,140 Andrew Sparke: seven more deposits around on this mine site. So we're 102 00:05:43,140 --> 00:05:46,710 Andrew Sparke: really excited about this year as an exploration business and 103 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:48,799 Andrew Sparke: how big we can actually grow this deposit and how 104 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,620 Andrew Sparke: much value we can have for our shareholders. 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,510 Sean Aylmer: I'll get onto the zero carbon aspect in a moment 106 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:55,589 Sean Aylmer: but this is just continuing on the lines of me 107 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:58,289 Sean Aylmer: being quite ignorant about the whole area. Would you prefer 108 00:05:58,290 --> 00:06:00,529 Sean Aylmer: copper or gold or it doesn't matter so long as 109 00:06:00,529 --> 00:06:02,900 Sean Aylmer: you get ounces or tons of one or the other? 110 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,870 Andrew Sparke: Look, it's a really good question and this is one 111 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:08,010 Andrew Sparke: of the benefits of having, as I've said before, these 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,089 Andrew Sparke: VHMS deposits is that they're multi commodity. So what it 113 00:06:12,089 --> 00:06:14,599 Andrew Sparke: does as a business is it gives us this diversification 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,820 Andrew Sparke: of commodities and if one commodity price is off, well, 115 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:21,330 Andrew Sparke: we've got five other commodities there that hopefully are higher 116 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:24,359 Andrew Sparke: at that time. But one of the great things at 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,130 Andrew Sparke: the moment, we're heading into a period where we think we've 118 00:06:28,130 --> 00:06:31,430 Andrew Sparke: got a very strong decade ahead as we transition to 119 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:35,040 Andrew Sparke: a low carbon world and that's driving an immense amount 120 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,320 Andrew Sparke: of interest in the discovery or the production of what 121 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,620 Andrew Sparke: we call battery metals. And so obviously copper's a really 122 00:06:41,620 --> 00:06:44,159 Andrew Sparke: big focus for us because it's used in just about 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Andrew Sparke: every technology, every sustainable energy source. Electric cars, wind turbines, 124 00:06:49,140 --> 00:06:52,730 Andrew Sparke: solar panels, all need copper. It's really one of the building 125 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:56,180 Andrew Sparke: blocks of this energy transition. But as you say, we've 126 00:06:56,180 --> 00:07:00,130 Andrew Sparke: got a reasonable component of our resource, it's just over 30% 127 00:07:00,130 --> 00:07:02,730 Andrew Sparke: of the economic value at the moment, is in precious 128 00:07:02,730 --> 00:07:05,930 Andrew Sparke: metals. So we've got quite a large component gold and 129 00:07:05,930 --> 00:07:09,210 Andrew Sparke: silver. And so that with the challenges we're seeing at 130 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:12,250 Andrew Sparke: the moment with stock markets under a bit of pressure 131 00:07:12,250 --> 00:07:15,190 Andrew Sparke: and really strong equity valuations and talk of interest rate 132 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:19,570 Andrew Sparke: rises and cost pressures, gold and silver are really nice 133 00:07:19,930 --> 00:07:24,530 Andrew Sparke: hedge against, hopefully not but maybe a tough economic period 134 00:07:24,530 --> 00:07:28,390 Andrew Sparke: ahead. So we've got that fantastic diversification of commodities here 135 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:32,720 Andrew Sparke: and that's something that we've deliberately sought because being in 136 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,580 Andrew Sparke: one commodity can be quite a challenging thing in the mining business. 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:42,460 Sean Aylmer: Stay with me, Andrew, we'll be back in the moment. My 138 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:45,470 Sean Aylmer: guest this morning is Andrew Sparke. Executive chairman of QMines. 139 00:07:46,930 --> 00:07:50,090 Sean Aylmer: So zero carbon, what you do must be very energy 140 00:07:50,090 --> 00:07:52,750 Sean Aylmer: intensive. Why are you going zero carbon? And how do 141 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:53,210 Sean Aylmer: you do it? 142 00:07:53,860 --> 00:07:58,350 Andrew Sparke: Very good question. So mining is historically seen as quite 143 00:07:58,580 --> 00:08:01,520 Andrew Sparke: a dirty bit business and since we listed in May 144 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,810 Andrew Sparke: last year, we've come at it from a different angle 145 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:08,200 Andrew Sparke: because as I alluded to before, because there's this fantastic 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,060 Andrew Sparke: energy transition going on throughout the world and we need more 147 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:15,050 Andrew Sparke: copper and zinc and lead and other metals to really fuel 148 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:18,470 Andrew Sparke: that transition. There's a nice synergy between what we're doing 149 00:08:18,570 --> 00:08:21,700 Andrew Sparke: as an exploration and development company, trying to find enough 150 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:25,910 Andrew Sparke: minerals to support that transition. And so we're sort of 151 00:08:26,170 --> 00:08:28,910 Andrew Sparke: trying to flip the whole mining and exploration business on 152 00:08:28,910 --> 00:08:31,570 Andrew Sparke: its head and say, " Well, we can do this in a 153 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:34,170 Andrew Sparke: more sustainable way. We can do this in a cleaner, 154 00:08:34,170 --> 00:08:38,770 Andrew Sparke: greener way." So it's funny but I'm a young chairman 155 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:41,520 Andrew Sparke: and I've got two young kids and we're really quite 156 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,699 Andrew Sparke: keen to make sure that they have a really clean 157 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:46,160 Andrew Sparke: world to grow up in and to enjoy it as 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,530 Andrew Sparke: we've had. So the question was, how do we do 159 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:52,760 Andrew Sparke: it? And we've rolled out a number of initiatives recently 160 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:57,079 Andrew Sparke: and where we're finding most companies are in the strategy 161 00:08:57,140 --> 00:09:00,720 Andrew Sparke: phase, we're really well and truly past it. We're in 162 00:09:00,730 --> 00:09:05,309 Andrew Sparke: the implementation phase. We've actually just signed a long term agreement 163 00:09:05,309 --> 00:09:09,300 Andrew Sparke: with a renewable fuel supplier. We're actually using a fuel 164 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:13,179 Andrew Sparke: which is partly diesel, partly actual vegetable oil and animal 165 00:09:13,179 --> 00:09:16,110 Andrew Sparke: fats, would you believe? And so there's this thing in 166 00:09:16,110 --> 00:09:19,679 Andrew Sparke: our space that we're talking about, the circular economy. Not 167 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:23,170 Andrew Sparke: wasting things. Trying to use things and reuse things and reduce our 168 00:09:23,170 --> 00:09:27,089 Andrew Sparke: carbon emissions. So we're also, we've installed a number of 169 00:09:27,090 --> 00:09:30,760 Andrew Sparke: solar systems on our main side at Rockhampton and Mount 170 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,609 Andrew Sparke: Chalmers. We've got a wind turbine up there. We've got 171 00:09:34,610 --> 00:09:38,239 Andrew Sparke: rainwater capture and usage on site. So we've actually got 172 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,290 Andrew Sparke: that whole Mount Chalmers site completely off grid at the 173 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:43,900 Andrew Sparke: moment. So it does bring more challenges and a little more 174 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:46,660 Andrew Sparke: cost, but it is very achievable and there are very 175 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:49,479 Andrew Sparke: simple and well known technologies out there that you can 176 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Andrew Sparke: use to really reduce your carbon footprint. 177 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,530 Sean Aylmer: Is that a trend in the industry? Australia has some 178 00:09:55,540 --> 00:09:58,460 Sean Aylmer: very efficient gold miners and I think Newcrest is world 179 00:09:58,460 --> 00:10:02,310 Sean Aylmer: class when it comes to efficiency, but investors are demanding 180 00:10:02,510 --> 00:10:07,300 Sean Aylmer: greener electricity. Is it a trend that going forward, we 181 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:12,090 Sean Aylmer: will see the explorers and developers and miners actually becoming greener? 182 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:15,100 Andrew Sparke: Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's definitely heading 183 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:18,290 Andrew Sparke: in that direction. We're seeing most of the uptake by 184 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:21,420 Andrew Sparke: the actual producers that have got stronger balance sheets to 185 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,460 Andrew Sparke: transition their businesses. But they're also finding challenges in that 186 00:10:25,540 --> 00:10:28,360 Andrew Sparke: a lot of their plant and equipment's already installed, already 187 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,849 Andrew Sparke: been built, so they're having to reconstruct a lot of 188 00:10:30,850 --> 00:10:34,390 Andrew Sparke: that plant and equipment for the transition. I suppose there's 189 00:10:34,390 --> 00:10:37,540 Andrew Sparke: a lag effect down through the smaller companies and through 190 00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:39,829 Andrew Sparke: to the explorers and that's where I think we're really 191 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:42,630 Andrew Sparke: trying to take the lead and show that you can 192 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:45,210 Andrew Sparke: do this cost effectively. You can actually do this in 193 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:47,660 Andrew Sparke: a way that actually adds value for your shareholders, not 194 00:10:47,660 --> 00:10:50,850 Andrew Sparke: to detracts value. So there is certainly a trend there 195 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:54,140 Andrew Sparke: and it's going to continue to progress as I think 196 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:57,210 Andrew Sparke: we come into those key milestones set by some of 197 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:01,400 Andrew Sparke: the regulators around the world of 2030 and 2050. But we think 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,890 Andrew Sparke: there's an opportunity to do it sooner and do it 199 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:05,470 Andrew Sparke: now and that's what I think really differentiates us from 200 00:11:05,470 --> 00:11:05,660 Andrew Sparke: a lot of our peers. 201 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:08,760 Sean Aylmer: How are you enjoying being listed, Andrew? 202 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:13,670 Andrew Sparke: Look, it's great. It was a big process to actually 203 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:16,290 Andrew Sparke: get listed and I'm sure a lot of your listeners who 204 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:19,520 Andrew Sparke: have been around pre- IPO companies, it takes a lot 205 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,620 Andrew Sparke: of work. So it was a nine month to 12 month process 206 00:11:23,620 --> 00:11:27,020 Andrew Sparke: to get listed for QMines. So it's great to be 207 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:30,309 Andrew Sparke: up and running now and our company's performed very well 208 00:11:30,309 --> 00:11:35,360 Andrew Sparke: since listing. We've increased our resource twice last year at our Mount Chalmers 209 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Andrew Sparke: deposit, so it's growing really nicely. And I think our 210 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,130 Andrew Sparke: shareholders are really quite happy with the progress of how 211 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:43,840 Andrew Sparke: it's gone. So whilst it's been a lot of work, 212 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Andrew Sparke: we're really enjoying the ride and we've got a great 213 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,660 Andrew Sparke: team that really helped us to get there. So yeah, 214 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:49,179 Andrew Sparke: enjoying it. 215 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:51,960 Sean Aylmer: That's good. Andrew, thank you for talking to Fear and Greed. 216 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:53,750 Andrew Sparke: Thanks, Sean. Nice to chat. 217 00:11:54,020 --> 00:11:57,260 Sean Aylmer: That was Andrew Sparke. Executive chairman of Qmines. This is 218 00:11:57,260 --> 00:12:00,090 Sean Aylmer: the Fear and Greed Daily Interview. Join me every morning for 219 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:02,640 Sean Aylmer: the full Fear and Greed podcast with all the business 220 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,620 Sean Aylmer: news you need to know. I'm Sean Aylmer. Enjoy your day.