1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Nathan Stafford, Well, straight talk mate, thanks to every I've 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: been trying to get you. I've been following you for 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: a bit and I've been trying to get the guys 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: to get hold of you to come on the show 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: because I'm fascinated with what you do. I think it's 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: quite amazing and apart from the the. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Good nature of what you do, that is the actual 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: nature what you do. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: For people, where you actually go and do stuff and nothing, 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: just the way you go about it, the way you've 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: run your Instagram, the way you've grown, you you're following, 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: but also the fact that it was crazy is mad. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: There's so many people really interested in your activity, not 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: so much from a gardener's point of view or looking 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: after lawns gardens. I'm sure some of it is that, 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: but it just seems to be there's so many people 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: interested in. 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: What you do for others. It's crazy. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: It's like people are vicariously sort of living through you 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I just wanted to explore that 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: a little bit too. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: But I guess start off with. 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Is Nathan's Lawns and Gardens, which there is an Instagram 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: page for it for those people interested in it. I 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: think that's it. Nathan's lawns and gardens. Whether we should 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: follow him everyone else in the country and he's been 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: following him. There millions of people following him, but not 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: just as straight around the world for that matter. Tell me, 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: I started off like a can you go back? Well 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: watch your background like gardener. 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: All right, So there's a lot of people know a 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: little bit about me. I have a story. Like a 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: lot of people. That's not the best story. I shared 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: a little bit that, you know, I want to let 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: everyone know. So basically with me, I left school in 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: year nine. I love sport, I was good at sport. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: I was okay in Sydney. Yeah, morning road. I just 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: I just didn't like school. 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: And months because I think you didn't live be fourteen 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: ten months yeah yeah yeah. 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: And everyone was against it. And I started working full 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: time at McDonald's looking back. Great place to work, by 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: the way, I will always say it is the best 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: place back then to learn some hard work, especially for 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: a young bloke. 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, systems per all that kind of stuff. And 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: I started working there and then obviously what do your 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: parents say. 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: Well, they weren't too impress put it that way, really, yeah, yeah, 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: they didn't like that. But I was a teenager, and 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: you know what teenagers are like, and I was going 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: through a few things and I wanted to do my way. 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: That's always it's been, was my way. And through doing 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: my way, I've learned a lot of lessons. And I 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: guess from there to about twenty four or twenty three, 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: my life went in directions that I should not have 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: trouble a new period. Yeah, yeah, chopping from job to job. 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: The work was never a problem. 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: I always had a work ethic, but it was just 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: what was going on with me. 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: I was not going to say, Nathan, work ethic meaning 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to get up and do work. 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: How did you go to work? I'll take on anything. 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: I remember skateboarding an hour at five o'clock in the 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: morning from Rye Dina's Hill to go and be a 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 3: brick layers laborer. Right. 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: But as I said, all that stuff was never a problem. 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: It was just me and living life and life terms 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: became a problem through stuff that went on in my 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: life that I don't want to really talk about just 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: at the moment, but yeah, and it led me to 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 3: basically which document has led me to the streets where 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: the Salvation Army stepped in. You are you so you're 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: living on the streets? Yep? 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Left your family home? 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, out of the street doings? Well where 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: that ended? Early twenties. So early twenties, and I had 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: two choices, and there were two amazing people that stepped in. 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: One was like the mother figure to me and the 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: other one was like the father figure, where she gave 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: me the nurturing that I needed, and he gave me 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: the brutal reality of what I really didn't want to 83 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: hear but I needed. How do you find people at 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: that or how did they find you? I had a 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: contact that came up to me on the street and said, 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: I reckon, you should get in contact with these people. 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: And so eventually I decided to bring them the professional 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: yeah yeah, And they came down and spoke to me, 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: and it took a lot of negotiating because I still 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: run my own race and back then, nothing's wrong with me. 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: Getted Yeah, all that. 92 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: Stuff, all that stuff, and I couldn't be told that's right. 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: I got three kids there, so it's all coming back 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: to week. But yeah, there I went and got some help. 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: That took a little bit. I didn't get it right 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: straight away, but we're in about two years my life 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: changed Touchwood. Ever since then, twenty years later, my life's 98 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: gone on the right track. 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, so that's pretty hectic like that. 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: They are able to make that, Yeah, I mean without 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: going into I don't want you under details of it. 102 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: But what are those the nurturing and the looking at 103 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: your screw in the face and telling what you needed 104 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: to hear. What did those two people bring to your life? 105 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and how does it happen? Do you just 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: say you see them every week or do they just 107 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: come and check in on you every now and then, 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: or what's the problem? 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: I was in a facility where they were where they 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: were to now I'm still in contact with them, and 111 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: I actually was lucky to go to a video with 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: them here just recently. 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: That's where I invite my followers a little bit into 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: my journey. 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: And I know it's nothing in the big scheme of 116 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: the picture, because they basically saved my life. But I 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: was able to give a little bit back and do 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: something for them moving forward, which for me was you know, 119 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: it was a good thing. 120 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: Look what they did for me was basically that saved 121 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: my life. 122 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: My next step would have ended up being over jail 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: or I would have been to That was the reality 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: where I was heading. And as I said, I always 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: believe there's always a reason for everything, and they will 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: put in my path for a reason, and I'm glad 127 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: they were so that. I love that word. Lad. 128 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: So is that Where did that sort of bring to 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: the front of your mind? Obviously as a young man then, 130 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: not a year old now, but a young man then 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: that sort of sense of gratitude and understanding what gratitude is. 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: It took a long time. I will always say, Okay, 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: it's good to turn your life around. It's a hard thing. 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: I always say, when you cross a line, it's very hard, 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: and that becomes your normal. It's very hard to get 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: back on the other side and live a sort of 137 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: normal life. And I'm impatient, that's one thing about me, 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: things like that. So to do a process and learn 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 3: that this is a daily thing that was hard for me. 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: But no, I would say for me to get where 141 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: I was and just have especially a bit of peace, 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of peace, and not be controlled by 143 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: consumed with anger and all this hatred and all this, 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: I would say that only really started in the last 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: six five to six years where I literally I feel 146 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: all right, last six years of your current life, my 147 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: life got better. YEA, things change, but I had to 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: really start working on myself and I needed help. That's 149 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: a that's a for me anyway. 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: It's a sort of like a really transactional like it 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: changes from day to day. Some days you have, Oh, 152 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: you wake up, you feel like you're a good peace 153 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: of mind. Other days you know, Jimmy cricket's been over 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: your head or not, scratches your legs, shitn't. 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: And it's sort of a it's a sort of a 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: pretty changeable. 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: So when you say peace, do you mean I'd love 158 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: to be able to see but completely at peace or 159 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: just you know how you can get. 160 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Peace of mind and it's one of those redeeming things 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: you find. 162 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't believe I'll ever be at peace. There's a 163 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: lot in my life that's happened, and there's a lot 164 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: that is happening in my life. I've got a little 165 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: boy that's got a lot going on, and that's a 166 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: constant worry for me. But it didn't consume my life. 167 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: You know, I could find, as I said, works and 168 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: escape for me I can just charge into that and 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: my mind's off. But even though I'd be doing that, 170 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: I'd still be fueled with his anger or hate. All 171 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: things would annoy me. But now, yeah, it's all good 172 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: because I said, what I do now is like my 173 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: medicine that I need for me. 174 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, many, oh not many years ago, 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe two years ago, I had Danny Abdulla on the 176 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: show and Danny unfortunately children died as a result of 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: an accident. I don't know if you watched it on 178 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: sixty minutes, and Danny told me that the reason he 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: was prepared to forgive the person who causes drop problem 180 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: was for his own for himself selfishly. I mean, he 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: didn't mean it as a bad thing, but his forgiveness 182 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: was in order to help himself out. And it's interesting 183 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: how easy it is for us to not be kind 184 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: to ourselves and be art on ourselves all the time, 185 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: and in order sometimes we have to be a bit 186 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: selfish about ourselves in order to be better for everybody else. 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: And I'm not there yet with some things. But sometimes 188 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: I find in life sometimes you've got a cuffings for 189 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: your own peace of mind. For me, anyway, to move 190 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: forward in my life because that stuff was consuming me 191 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: and it wasn't positive. So in my life there are 192 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: things I've said I have to walk away from and 193 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: it's sad and that's life. But for me it works better. 194 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: Is it a permanent do you say, is the technique? 195 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Obviously you've had people sort of help you, you know, 196 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: psychologically do this, like you know the technique wise, but 197 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: as a technique in that regard to say I'm going 198 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: to permanently work walk away from this or I'm walking 199 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: away from it, you don't have to decide whether it's 200 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: permanent or not. 201 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: You say, right now, I'm walking away from from it? 202 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: Is it already? 203 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: Have some that's it, It's it's done. 204 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: There's some things in my life family that I've had 205 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: to say I've got to walk away permanently, permanently. 206 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's sad, but it's it's it's just it's 207 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: the best for everyone. Does that sort of. 208 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Created other forms of emotions like guild or stuff like 209 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: that regret? Yeah, ye, which means you deliver that too. 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: So I have to be careful what I say. 211 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Hmm. I don't speak to my parents and spoke to 212 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: them for about five years and I had to cut 213 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: them out of my life. I don't want to go 214 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: into why or what, but I had to do that 215 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: for my own peace of mind. And as I said, 216 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: there's a story about me that I'm not ready to 217 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: share one day. I will when the time is right. 218 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: But it's sad, and it is a sad story, and 219 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: it is I've got kids, I've got to keep a disability, 220 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: and you know, it's a terrible but unfortunately for me. 221 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: I just sometimes I wish people the best in life 222 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: and just move on. And that's why I do what 223 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: I do, because it sort of feels that avoid in 224 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: me by trying to help other people. I couple lot 225 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: on social media about you know, I can't stand when 226 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: I get a comment about it it's for views or 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: likes or anything like that. A lot of people don't 228 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: know me. When I help someone, it's not about views 229 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: or likes. It's just about trying to feel that hole 230 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: in me. Because if I help someone and I get 231 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: a smile out of them. 232 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: It makes me feel better. There's no a better than 233 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: a smile. Mate. 234 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: How many kids? You've got three? Three kids? But he 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: got boys and girls. I've got two boys, and a 236 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: little girl. How old are they? So? My oldest is twelve, 237 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: he's Benji years. He's all two stick and he had 238 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: open heart surgery on the first day of his life. Wow. 239 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: And he's been for a lot and you'll have a 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: little bit more going on in his life function At 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: the moment, he's okay, good, but there's definitely some more 242 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: stuff that needs to be done there. We've all got 243 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: four vows in our heart and he's got three now. 244 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: He had one removed and that one needs to be replaced. 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: So that's a challenge. It's a worry. It's always on 246 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: my mind. Worry. I've got Maddie. He's in the middle. 247 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: He's he's got a cause any trouble. How old is 248 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: he's nine? He loves his sport. I come from a 249 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: sporting family, so you know, I think he'll he goes 250 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: down that path. And I've got a little daughter's age. 251 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: She's four girls. It's different. 252 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: It's differ very one of those four boys and. 253 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: It's different. But she's beautiful and it's fantastic. 254 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: And you're still with their mum. 255 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: You're on your own. My first two sons to my 256 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: first previous relationship, Yes, and then my little dad. Yeah, 257 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: she's too, Kelly. So you may remember, I believe you're 258 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: on the board of the Roosters. So Mark Hughes from 259 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: the Hughes Brothers eighty Grand Finals. So that's her dad Mark, right, 260 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: So he's my soon to be father in law. Mark 261 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: Heugh's from the Bulldogs from the Yeah, yeah, Mark, I 262 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: know him from school. Did you go to say to school? Yeah, okay, 263 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Michael ahead of me. I was in Graham's year. 264 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so Gary, Mark and Graham. I haven't seen Mark 265 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: for a long time, but once he's there at the Bulldogs. 266 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: He was like in charge of recruitment at one stage. 267 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: I soon recall he was recruitment at the Bulldogs and 268 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: then he left and he went to recruitment at South 269 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: in twenty right twelve and then you finish stuff in 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: Penrith here a few years ago, recruitment there. So Mark's daughter, 271 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: Kelly is my partner for over five years. Oh wow. 272 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: And he's a great man. I go a lot to 273 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: the games with him and it's interesting watching him. He's 274 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: still follow the Bulldogs. I'm a big Tiger's friend. Yeah. 275 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: So he comes out to a lot of the gates 276 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: he's sort of like the Tiger's bandwagon, but he's always bulldogs. Yeah. 277 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Actually when he played, I think they'll called the berries. 278 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll called the bulldogs in those days. 279 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'm learning a lot about this. He has a 280 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: lot to do with it. He had lots of the 281 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: New Challenge Jets stuff there and he was doing some 282 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: stuff there. 283 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: But so Marke played Origin. Do you know that he 284 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: plays State of Origin? I think he might have had 285 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: one one one crack. His brother Graham played State. I'm 286 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: pretty sure Mark plays that of Origin, maybe for one 287 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: or two seasons, like you know, three game Origin period. 288 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: Yah, I'm pretty sure in the early eighties a total 289 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: different era. Yeah. I love hearing his stories and there 290 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: pretty interesting. Well, the whole. 291 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Family is a great family. I knew their mom and dad, 292 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and I knew the whole family really well. And I 293 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: now know graham son Ethan who's recently called me and 294 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: Ethan's titter with actually Driggs Duplessius, the South African UFC 295 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: middleweight performer world champion as a small world. 296 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: So well done, Kelly. We'll say hello to Mark when 297 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: you see next week. 298 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Please, how did you learn how to be so good 299 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: at filming shit and doing stuff on Instagram and all 300 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: that stuff you do, like all that social media stuff. 301 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: How did you learn that or was you just add 302 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: of instinct. 303 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: Self taught If you actually go back to my first 304 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: video somewhere in the archive, say not good. Still not 305 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: that great now. But I'm really basic, like literally a 306 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: lot of people know. I just have an iPhone. I 307 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: stick it in my son's shoe, I stick it on 308 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: a ladder or been. I don't have a tripod. That's 309 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: just what I do. Just basic stuff, and I don't. 310 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Know there's holding it for you. You set up yourself. 311 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: If it's windy, it falls off, and yeah, there you go. 312 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: That's probably why it's so popular. As I said, I 313 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: found my phone basic works, and I just sort of 314 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: self learn it and I try to watch a lot 315 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: of things to educate myself a little bit. But again 316 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: that's not my strong point. My strong points getting out 317 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: there and just demolishing stuff and all that stuff. So 318 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: I do have my partner helps me a lot with 319 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: that kind of angle, but you know, it's just sort 320 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: of I'm learning by doing. 321 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: And you stayed out right, Yeah, you're still right, that's 322 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: where you grew up. 323 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: You're still right all right. Obviously through my life I 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: do a lot of damage and I rented all my 325 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: life until last year. I bought my first home at 326 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: forty six and that was probably the biggest achievement of 327 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: my life. Great job that helping obviously with my partner. 328 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: That's just a team and we got little place, but 329 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: it's fantastic. It's in North fried and loven't it. So 330 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 3: take me to when. 331 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: There's obviously been a crossover period, so early ten years 332 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: after you left home at twenty four to twenty five, 333 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: around the period you've met these people who have assisted 334 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: you to sort of get you back together, so to speak, 335 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: or feel better about yourself at least and give you 336 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: some hope that you can conduct a fairly normal life. 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Where were you working at that point? 338 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: So we start off mcdology as you've been through lots 339 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: of things, brigs, labors, et cetera. 340 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Where were you when just before you started doing lawns? 341 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: Just before I was in a homeless shelter here in 342 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: Surrey Hills and I was in there for a few 343 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: months and I started working. I was in a in 344 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: a kitchen bakery out near Mascot and I used toick 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: it up every day seven o'clock, get the bus out there, 346 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: more so just to save some money and all that 347 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: kind of stuff and get out of not being that place. 348 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: That's a sad place. It's a lot going on. 349 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: A lot of men in there with what going on, 350 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: and that sort of kept me going. But it was not, 351 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: as I said. It wasn't the work ethic. It was 352 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: how I meant It's life, and that was the big issue. 353 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: So that's where I see it. I could earn it 354 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: had a problem easily. You couldn't keep it. It couldn't 355 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: couldn't manage myself if my life depended on me. That 356 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: was my biggest problem. You know. My head would always 357 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: say to me, you never do that again, and I'll 358 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: be doing it again tomorrow. And I knew I was 359 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: doing it, and I had no control. And I think 360 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: that's the best thing about my life now, is I 361 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: have control or someone control over my actions and what 362 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: I do, and I can live a normal life. But 363 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: that was the last job I did. How'd you get 364 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: into the lawns and why did you decide that? Because 365 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: I'd done laboring law knowing seriously, I'd done every job 366 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: in the world possible, seriously, So I did that, and well, 367 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: you know, I had learned out of my lawn that 368 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: was what i'd do as a kid. You get fifty 369 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: cents if I was lucky, and you go out there 370 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: and struggling with my lawns pretty much, so I could 371 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: do it. And I always wanted to run my own 372 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: business because yes, because I I would work hard, and 373 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: I always think, you know when I was laboring, that 374 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: I'm working for someone else pretty much. And I just 375 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: never could take that step or I never could. I 376 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: didn't have the backing to get me because literally to 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: go by you or equipment, I don't have the money, yeah, 378 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: you know, because I'd waste it or whatever I did. 379 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: And then obviously through that, my arm and uncle we 380 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: were always stuck by me. They're like the closest family 381 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: to me. They gave me a little hand there and 382 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: we have a car. There was a little car and whatever, 383 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: and from there that's where it started. And it was 384 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: more for me about Look, as I said, I wasn't 385 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: an angel, but there was a lot of people that 386 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: say I was going to fail, and even I thought 387 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: I was going to fail. And as a maintenance person, 388 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 3: just in general. And I left school in and I'm 389 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: going to be nothing. And I knew I could be something, 390 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: knew it, but I just didn't know how to do it. 391 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: And I thought, I'm going to take this step and 392 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to see what happens, and I'm going to 393 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: back myself run my own law knowing and gardening business. 394 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: Do you remember the moment. 395 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember sitting there, laying there on the bus 396 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: in the bed something, thinking I'm going to do this. 397 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: I remember thinking about it for a while, but I'll 398 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: never forget. When I went to my money and uncle, 399 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: I said, okay, I'm ready to change my life. And 400 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: the right thing I'm showing is I need a hand. 401 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: This is what I want. Can you help me? And 402 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: they did, and I didn't forget. I was straight down. 403 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: I just got flyers, just literally paper. I wrote something 404 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: on a paper and my deal was so so average, 405 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: just so funny. My name, what I could do, bang 406 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: bang bang, And I went straight out. It was the 407 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: beginning of spring, and I just walked the streets and 408 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: I just handed old box. I never had a website 409 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: in my whole career until just recently, because now I've 410 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: got merch and all that I had to otherwise I 411 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't have one. And I was so basic, an old 412 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: school and I just found that this will work, and 413 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: I backed myself and here we are today. 414 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: It was interesting about that when you were saying that, 415 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: I remember a long time ago, two thousand and three 416 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: or something, two thousand and two, we had I had 417 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: this physical wizard anyway, was it? We had all these 418 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: fancy advertising agencies and big names and. 419 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: Stuff like telling us how to do two v ads. 420 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: And we did this well fancy advertising campaign costing bloody fortune. 421 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: And Kerry Packerd grabbed me. He was my partner. He 422 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: said to me, is said, I saw. 423 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: That advertising the ad you put on TV last night. 424 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: He said, it was a wayful. I thought I'd just 425 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: spend bloody fortuning the biggest advertising agents in the country. 426 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: He said, son, you don't need all that crap. 427 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: He said, you just look at the camera and tell 428 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: them what your product is, what your interest rate is. 429 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: That we were lending money, so how much your interest 430 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: rate is? And how can they find you? Phone number 431 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: and website if you have a website, but phone number 432 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: was at the time. That was in two thousand and two. 433 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember what is said. That's what you need 434 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: to say. I remember Seeinger ran an advertising campaign for 435 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: a takeaway bottle shop it was and the ad went 436 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: like this said, it was a terrible sounding voice, but. 437 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: Where do you get it? 438 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: Do you remember that? 439 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: It was the most annoying thing you've ever heard? But basically, 440 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: where do you get it? Where do you get the booze? 441 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: And you know, how do you find the places? And 442 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: that's all people want to know. Where do I go 443 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: to get this case of beer or whatever? It is 444 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: unbelievably successful to your point, very fundamental, pretty basic, and 445 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: actually someone is seeing that in a mailbox. Reason might say, well, 446 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: ang on this blake. I might give this blake you go. 447 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Some might say what the hell's isn't ditch it? But equally, 448 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: maybe future percent are going to say, what you just said, 449 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: let's I'll give it a crack. I'll contact this bloke. 450 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember your first first phone call or whatever 451 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: it was? 452 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: What was it? I remember it was a lady. 453 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: And where we're talking about. 454 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: I walked all the streets, so literally I got about 455 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: a thousand coffees, just walked and yeah, a lady, beautiful lady. 456 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: I ended up looking after for about ten years, and 457 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: you got me up a whole lot of clientele as well. 458 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: And I remember doing it was twenty dollars. It was 459 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: in twenty ten, twenty dollars. I was there for an hour. 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: I did a hedge in a front lorn and you know, look, 461 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: I know looking back there, it wasn't a lot, but 462 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: I loved it, and all I cared about was doing 463 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: a good job, because I was a big believer on 464 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: word of mouth is the best form of advertisement. And 465 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: what I remember doing there was I had a thing 466 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: where say I did so your house. I would always 467 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: put a flyer in either side of the neighbors and 468 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: I'd go across the road and do three. So as 469 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: soon as I'd finished the job, I would put one 470 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: of my little paper in the letterbox on the left, 471 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: the letterbox on the right, walk across the road and 472 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: do one, two, three across more leafless. Yeah yeah, it'd 473 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: be five, yep. And then I would hope that I 474 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: could get one of them. So all of a sudden 475 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: I got two in the street, and then I would 476 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: build and the goal was if I can get five 477 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 3: or ten in the street, and then all of a sudden, 478 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: it's not so much traveling. It's cutting down all that 479 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: and I'm going to be able to do more in 480 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: the time. And I was happy. I'm not the best businessman, 481 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: and I was I must say that loudly from where. 482 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that, that that's actually quite algorithmically, 483 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: we say today, that's quite clever and intuitive because it's 484 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: all about travel and it's also about that they can 485 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: see you doing the one over the road and then 486 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: one other. If you do a good job, we'll tell 487 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: them because you know, like everyone's going to say, well, 488 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: what was Nathan like? And then I said, it was 489 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: a good blow. Just charge me whenever you charge me. Look, 490 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: come and have a look. Did a good job? That's 491 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: actually algorithmically quite smart? Well it it was, as I said, 492 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: from where I'd come from, I was. 493 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: Sort of like, my conscience was not the best, so 494 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: I need to look up to people to hopefully square 495 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: up if I ever ended up in the gates. So 496 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: I'll be let it or whatever it is. But it 497 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 3: was it was basically yeah, it was just look, I 498 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 3: just want to I always I could work hard and fast. 499 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: You know, back then I didn't realize that when you 500 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: get older, your body's gonna don't slow down. But then 501 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: I was just determined, and I think I had a 502 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: lot of goals. It was like I want to I 503 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: want to be looking after this street and I want 504 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: the next street and all of that. But yeah, it 505 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: worked really well and she was a lovely lady too. 506 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: So that was your That was your first job, you remember, Yep. 507 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't buy much but definitely not now. Didn't pay 508 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: the rent in those days. What did you buy first? 509 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, and how did you know how to buy? 510 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: And did you buy a second one or a new 511 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: one to go by victim or what was the deal? 512 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: So everything, you know. And it was also with my 513 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: family that my auntie and uncle, they won't going We're 514 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: going to go buying you the best of the best. 515 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: You got to earn it, you got it, you know. 516 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: That's very strong with them. So I was a second 517 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: hand car. There was nothing flash, second hand lawmower. Everything 518 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: was secondhand, and I slowly, over time upgraded until obviously 519 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: then when my accounts grewed and sponsors start coming in 520 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. But as I said, 521 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: everything with me has always just been basic. I've never 522 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: had you know back then, never nothing was the best 523 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: of the best. 524 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: That's sort of like the appeal though to some extent, because. 525 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: You're not walking around and not there's anything wrong with 526 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: these franchises, but you're not walking around on to someone 527 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: else's franchise is running a big franchise game, you know, 528 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: like you know, like advertising, marketing, all that sort of stuff, digitally, television, 529 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: whatever they're doing. It's just Nathan's lawns and gardens and 530 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: that has a certain maybe in Australia at least, but 531 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: it has a certain appeal to it. It's pretty basic, 532 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: pretty fundamental, no frills, no fur blows. So it just 533 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: is what it is. I get the job done, and 534 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: I do it for a fair price. And and I'm 535 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: I guess brand wise, how important is it for people 536 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: to trust you? 537 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: That was very important, very important to you. I mean, 538 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: no one trusted me. I lost trust from everyone growing up. 539 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: I did a lot of wrong things. I ended up 540 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: with no one. You know. I came from one of 541 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: the most popular kids in the school too. No one 542 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: wanted to buy with me and through my own doing so. 543 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: For me now to be trusted in someone's house, yeah, 544 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: I you know, I'll always make sure one hundred percent, 545 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: like I'm out their backyard there going out. Okay, well 546 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like I don't want any 547 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: to go wrong here or anything like that. But I 548 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: guess the goal for me was I always had goals 549 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: and I never had goals in my life. And I 550 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: remember that was a big thing that I told you 551 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: that to have goals, I read. I used to read 552 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 3: stuff and see stuff you know, on TV and whatnot 553 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: about you know when you see people say those statements 554 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: and all that. Sometimes you listen, sometimes you date. But 555 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: there was something about, you know, setting a goal. And 556 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: I never could sider go Really, if you said to me, 557 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: set your goal to save one hundred dollars in a 558 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: week and guarantee your road last week in the day, 559 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: it wouldn't because I could not. I could not control 560 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: what I was doing. You couldn't think it through like 561 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: I could think it very without a problem. I just 562 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: I just couldn't do it. I couldn't do it because 563 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: I was too busy ton stupids distract, yeah, doing all that. 564 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: So to set a goal for me was a big thing. 565 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 3: And I just as I said, with verying, my business 566 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: was goals. It was to get five houses in that street, 567 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: you know, to make x amounting that week, you know, 568 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: to get an upgrade from that to that equipment. Erring 569 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: was about goals, and I learned over time it says practice, practice, practice. 570 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: If I just set those little goals, it is true 571 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: they will come and eventually And did Nathan, did you? 572 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: You know? It's interesting officer to like sometimes we think 573 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: we aren't growing. Whether there's people that were business owners 574 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and we get it's easy to compare yourself to everybody 575 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: else too, by the way, because lots of people talk 576 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: it up, but sometimes that happens. And obviously the people 577 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether you made five hundred dollars a 578 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: day or twenty bucks. The fact you got out of 579 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: bed and went to work in bank your little wins. 580 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean, did you sort of embark on that process 581 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: of always trying to not congratulate yourself but just at 582 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I did a good day 583 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: on a stay's work, got paid for it. 584 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: Did you used to go through a process for that? 585 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: Did just think it through? 586 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: I only started. The truth is obviously now I'm seeing 587 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: the rewards twenty years later from my hard work. And 588 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: I never thought i'd get to see it, nor would 589 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: I be able to appreciate it like I do now. 590 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: But back then, no, it was just your sort of 591 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: for me when I, as I said, when I'm working, 592 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: when I'm in that frame, I really will push myself. 593 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't mat if it's grain rain, if 594 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: it's one hundred degree whatever. I'm out there, I'm working. 595 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm doing this to achieve. Yeah, and no, I just 596 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: think a goal for me or a win was that 597 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: I'm able to save some money, I'm able to pay 598 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: my rent, I'm able to put it on the table. 599 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: There they were the wins for me, but I didn't 600 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: really appreciate them. It just became now, this is how 601 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: I live life, and I'm now sort of doing what 602 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: normal people do. How important do you think it is 603 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: then for someone like you at least? 604 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Is it then to acknowledge and recognize that these habits work. 605 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: Oh, fantastic habits. Yeah, I mean what I'm doing now 606 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: as in the good things, it's fantastic. You know, everything 607 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: I was told that I didn't want to listen to. 608 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: I didn't believe it's also true. It's just it just 609 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: takes time, and you just got to go one day, 610 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: you know, and it is it is. You know. I'll 611 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: tell you, Ma, if you had have given me five 612 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: dollars twenty ago, that they'll have been gone in two seconds, 613 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: guarantee you. If you said leaving you can't, don't touch, 614 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: it would have been gone straight away. Now I can 615 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: leave five thousand dollars and I'd even remember that. That's 616 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: the difference of where I'm at to that and for me, 617 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: trust me, that's a good thing. 618 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: But it sounds like a total turn around that league, 619 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: but I need it. Yeah, But that didn't just happen 620 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: because of me. That's happened from two amazing people from 621 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: this Sowos, the major mister and Missus Dolan, from people 622 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: in that group, and you know my family, my auntie, 623 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: my uncle and my partner and even in the last 624 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: five years with Kelly, she's an amazing woman. And I 625 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: always say she's she's that person. 626 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: That grounds me and keeps me in check and when 627 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: things I get a little bit because I'm still human, 628 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm still going to be like, what's going on? You know, 629 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: She's when that comes in and it right, just take 630 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: a chill, and I need that. 631 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: She's anything like your grandmother, Knowlan who's you won't get 632 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: away with much of this I've ever heard, or her 633 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: grandfather Noel and and or any of the uncles or 634 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: a dad for that matter, because they're fairly grounded family 635 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: like that. 636 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: That's a pretty important thing that ha in your life. 637 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: By the sound of things, you know, they've got good 638 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: foundational values. 639 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And that's how I didn't say. And 640 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: they are you know, Mark and Sandy, they they they 641 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: are really good people. Mark so many times he calls 642 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: me up and he just says it straight to me, 643 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, he checks in on me. A different generation 644 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, will be seventy three or something said, yeah, yeah, 645 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: beautiful family, you know, and it helps me. 646 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember when you start, you first realize that 647 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: you will become an incensensation, like a social media sensation. 648 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: It was there like a day when all of a 649 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: sudden it just went. 650 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: You know, let's say you had a thousand followers, went 651 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: from a thousands and ten thousand, like. 652 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: I remember it. With social media. This is a different thing. 653 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: It's I'm out there working. That's a physical thing that's 654 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: easy for me. It comes natural. On this part of 655 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: the thing. It's different I got to think and that's 656 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: probably not a strong point. And so I'm now on there, 657 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: you know, online all that kind of stuff, and with 658 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: that it's every day you have to be committed. 659 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: I just need to show the audience of this because 660 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: I like both of you've been very. 661 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: Being very what do you call it, Nathan's lowns. 662 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: And guards if you're being very modest, so Nathan Stafford. 663 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: So I'm just we're zoom in on that. 664 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: But it says two point seven million followers. That would 665 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: be pretty up there in Australian terms, really up there 666 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: in Australian terms, like it wouldn't be too many that 667 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I know of around that territory. 668 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: You only follow five hundred and fifty four people. 669 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: You've only put up three thy seven hundred posts, so 670 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: the number of posts you got a relative the number 671 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: followers you've got is very low. So that sounds like, therefore, 672 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: the quality of what you are posting, given that you've 673 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: got so many followers and you only posted a few things, 674 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: is being really loved, I mean, and or shared and 675 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: like incredibly shared because there's not too many posts. So 676 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: in a statistical analytical sense, it's pretty amazing. Facebook five million, 677 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: TikTok two point nine million? That IZI guy that mowsed 678 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: lawns for free? 679 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 3: Can you actually? 680 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: I can see my cousin follows you, and brath and 681 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: Asta follows. There's a few people here, and Adam Morris 682 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: follows you too. But can you remember the day when 683 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: you thought and why did you do this? But the 684 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: thought I'm going to put something this up on Instagram? 685 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: Do you remember the day? Why did you do it? 686 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: So? Obviously my business that's going all right. And I 687 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: had seen I was watching one night there was this 688 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 3: lady doctor pimple pop or whatever it is. 689 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: I have doctor actually discussing one of those things you 690 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 2: want to watch. 691 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sort of look at it. And then at the 692 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: end this ad or whatever thing came up and it 693 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: was a gum on a lawn really fast. They sped up. Yeah, yeah, 694 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: I was. They gave me an idea, what what did 695 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: I try it? So I did. I went to one 696 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: of my customers if my film now? Yeah right, And 697 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: so I opened the page I did it got about 698 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: I always got about two or three views, one of 699 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: them meet whoever was the other one was no I 700 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: And I thought, let's just keep going on this, so 701 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: I did. The quality was horrible. They were seriously a 702 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: good videos, and I just started doing that and then 703 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: over time I just introduced other things and it started 704 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: growing a little bit, and then it was it was 705 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 3: one night at that point, a month leading up it 706 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: was starting till I was hitting about twenty thousand followers. 707 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: So at that stort, that was quite big for a 708 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: lawn moment. That's still big and small business. I put 709 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: up a video. It was a Sunday five o'clock I'll 710 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: never forget it, and that stage I had only TikTok 711 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: and Instagram, and it just went crazy. I've never seen 712 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: something like it. I got that video. It was video. 713 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: It got over a billion views. It was ship yeah yeah, yeah, 714 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: it was shared one billion. I had lad Boy and 715 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: everyone coming on to me sharing it. And I have 716 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: never seen something like that before. Obviously through myself, my 717 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: whole phone just shut down, literally no because there was 718 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: so much traffic coming through. So quickly, tell me about it. 719 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: What was it? What was it was? It was? It 720 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: was actually it was it was a hard video. It 721 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: was it was a it was a driveway I did. 722 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: There was three parts. It was just a driveway. Wheeds 723 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: all that as tall as me. Was this someone who 724 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: booked you were just when you were different for nothing? No, no, no, 725 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: this this was a page job. So basically all my 726 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: page jobs they stopped about two years ago, rally around 727 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: two years earring now upload vering is free and obviously 728 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: because that response. So yeah, it was just a three 729 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: part thing. It was overgrown driveway, a hedge, and for 730 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: some reason, I never get them right, but this one 731 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: rounded off perfectly. The backyard was really long. It was 732 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 3: a nightmare of a job. But I put it up 733 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: in three and I remember I put on a song 734 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: what was his name, I forget his name, but it 735 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 3: was a song in there and it worked well with 736 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 3: it here, and I put it up and literally in 737 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 3: an hour, I was like a million views on talk 738 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: and it did the same on Insta, and it was 739 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 3: just I'd literally refresh and I was like two thousand followers. 740 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 3: Just I just kept me on with that, and I 741 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: was like, I was exciting. I was like, what is happening? 742 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: But then I got a little bit anxious because I 743 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: was like, oh, look at all these people now following me, 744 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: like the pressures on, Like I felt a bit like 745 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 3: there's a few eyes on me now. So it was 746 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: great a lot. It was great, but it was a 747 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: bit scary, to be quite honest, I didn't expect that 748 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: was going to happen. And then obviously from there I 749 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: always sort of say, once you sort of get a 750 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: bit of a following, it just kicks off from there. Yeah, 751 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: and it'll just it would just what do you think 752 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: it is? 753 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: It intrigues people, but at that stage and not maybe 754 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: the stuff you do for free, the pro bonus stuff 755 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: is maybe slightly different. 756 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: But that was a paid job. 757 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: Why are people interested in watching Nathan clean up someone's 758 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: backyard or drive away? 759 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: What is it? Do you think I reckon? Back then? 760 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: It was probably a music that I added to it. 761 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: It does worked well. I forget that I because I 762 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: wanted to contact him and say a baite. It was 763 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 3: very much Yeah, but I think a lot of people 764 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: like to watch someone else doing the work with something 765 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 3: really overgrain and really quick. As long as it's quick, 766 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: you know, you sped it up, spat it up into 767 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: forty five seconds. It was like a five hour job 768 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: in a forty five second once. So's it's quick, but 769 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: not quick enough to do that just playing around with 770 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: things and watching you know, other forms of videos, and 771 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: just how long it take you to do sort of 772 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: the editor, Yeah, edited that video to edit, probably it 773 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: takes me about I mean it's getting quicker now, but 774 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: back then, probably about eleven minutes. Well that's not bad. 775 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's basic app, but I still use that 776 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: app today. 777 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: It's just so use you use an app to an 778 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: app that's available on the app Store to edit your videos, 779 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: your jobs into forty five seconds or whatever it is. 780 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just speeding it up and then you know, 781 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: you can crop in and change font and whatever. But yeah, 782 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: it's really, really really I wanted to make forty five 783 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: seconds because I've looked over some of my videos and 784 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: I sort of realized with time frames of you've got 785 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: to keep the audience captivated. And I just learned that 786 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: sometimes the quicker and the more that's happening, people will 787 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 3: sort of keep watching. So let's just learned by doing. 788 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: I still have a mistake all but yeah, it's just 789 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: the quicker, the better did you get you sort of 790 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: brought me. 791 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: Now, there's probably got analytics and stuff of that going on, 792 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: and what properly managed, so to speak. But when you 793 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: did that for the forty five seconds and you saw 794 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: the thing that numbers of followers ticking over, did you 795 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: think to yourself, I'm a parting gett a bit nervous 796 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: about it. Do you think yourself, what have I created here? 797 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: This is not the Nathan stuff that I know. 798 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was fat boy slim right here right now. Yeah, 799 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: it was just it was just I remember saying to 800 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: my partner, I said, I think things are going to 801 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: change now, like I don't know what's happening, but yeah, 802 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 3: something's happening. 803 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: And did you start getting requests to come and come 804 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: and do my garden? 805 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I share. I like to mix things up on 806 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: my socials. You got serious, you got a bit of 807 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 3: fun you whatever, And every now and then I share 808 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 3: a few d ms that I get, and then I 809 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: started getting some pretty funny, hectic stuff resides. Yeah, basically 810 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: laugh you know, it's like okay, but yes, it was. 811 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: It's good. It was interesting you. 812 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: And how long did you keep running the business that 813 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: way as opposed to being like more an entertainment page. 814 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: How long did you keep doing work and actually videoing? 815 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: Did you so, for example, the next week you better 816 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: do another one of these. 817 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I knew then there's an audience, a 818 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: huge audience coming over because they liked that video. So 819 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 3: my next video needs to deliver somewhat otherwise. Pressure. Yeah, 820 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 3: the pressure was on. So I found a good one 821 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 3: actually too, and I deliberately did a three part thing 822 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 3: again another garden. Yeah yeah, yeah. 823 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: It was a big on a rock cliff. 824 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 3: It was a crazy one, and I did it into 825 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: a three part series again and it went pretty big 826 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: as well, and I went right, that is what a 827 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: lot of people are here to that. But as I said, 828 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: then over time, when when you grow, sponsors now coming 829 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: and all that stuff starts happening. And then obviously through that, 830 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 3: I had two choices. I can I keep collecting money 831 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 3: I say, double tipping. I can go and keep working 832 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 3: and making money from my lawnmowing business fifty bucks an hour, 833 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: yeah we twenty. Then you know make obviously you can 834 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 3: make money through some social modi and mer platforms or whatever. 835 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 3: I can you know, cash in through that or which 836 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 3: is some people would say yep. Or I can go 837 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 3: right get rid of that completely or pretty much and 838 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 3: then focus on let's just help people and run that 839 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 3: risk because you know, I go out and help people. 840 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: I'm not guaranteed anything, you know, this is now. Yeah, yeah, 841 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 3: So I tried it over a period of a few months, 842 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 3: just a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, 843 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 3: and see how when and when it sort of got 844 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 3: to the point that it was enough to cover my 845 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 3: costs and my family. Yeah yeah, And then I thought, 846 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 3: you know what, to be honest, this it's better better 847 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 3: with me. I feel better to do it this way. 848 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 3: It's not double dipping, and I can help someone and 849 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: now I can go on my journey for whatever that is, 850 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 3: highlight issues, help people, whatever. And it works well for 851 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: me and I get aim and sleep a little bit 852 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 3: better at night. That's sort of do you remember the 853 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: first freebe you did? 854 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 855 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 3: How to come back? Just driving home on days? This 856 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: guy's an easy garden done so I'd seen it done 857 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: in other parts of the world, and there's another guy 858 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 3: that does it over here in Australia, and all right, 859 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 3: well I'm going to try it. And I put a 860 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: message out on my you know there was another boat 861 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 3: doing it because I'd done one with him. Yeah yeah, yeah, 862 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: I forgot yeah yeah, yeah. His name's Tim. How did 863 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: he find you? Will you find it in the lawn 864 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 3: care industry or whatever. You're obviously gonna come across each 865 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 3: other's platforms and all that kind of stuff. And you know, 866 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 3: I'd seen his work. He does great work, and I 867 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: was like, I went out and did one with him, 868 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 3: and then I said, well, I'm going to try my 869 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 3: hand in this, you know, why not? And so I did. 870 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: I put a post up on my page back then. 871 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 3: Then I started a Facebook page. That was the last 872 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 3: I started started that put a post up anyone want 873 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 3: their lawns done for free? This is what I do. 874 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 3: I got a few residues. A lady contacted me, all right, 875 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 3: well let's let's go. So I set up me tripod 876 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: can share when all that and knocked on the door 877 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: and didn't have a microphone back then, so it was 878 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 3: really budget Philby, but I did it and she was fantastic. 879 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 3: She was fantastic, really good sport and it was good. 880 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: It was it was fun and it was it was 881 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: eve and I was like, all right, so that's where 882 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: I was started. It's changed a bit now. But do 883 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: you remember your. 884 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: Most fulfilling it's called a pro bono free garden. Yeah, 885 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: the way you felt and here's something really full. 886 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there there is. There's one I always say 887 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 3: about when I now take it out of Australia. I've 888 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 3: been in New Zealand. You're doing overseas now, Yeah. I 889 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 3: started last year in New Zealand. I went there for 890 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: three days, seventy two hours to do as much as 891 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: I could. I helped out five beautiful families over there. 892 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: There was one over there that I always say it. 893 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 3: There's another one, a different one that I've never shared. 894 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: And that was over that was here, and I was 895 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: last year, and I always got to give a big 896 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 3: plug to Nathan Lyne around the corner from Mericke. Yeah 897 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: and legend and yeah, yeah, and I inappropriately when I 898 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: do work in the street inappropriately. He just went and 899 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 3: knocked on his door and no I knew he lived there. 900 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 3: I just went and knocked on his door and I said, 901 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 3: I've got someone I want to help. Have you got 902 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 3: any you can give me for merch? 903 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,720 Speaker 2: He's a big fan of yours, et cetera, et cetera. 904 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 3: Who is this bloke on by door? To his credit, 905 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 3: he was He was really nice. And then his wife 906 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: happened to just pull in and she said, oh, my god, 907 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 3: I follow you on TikTok. I was like, okay, this 908 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: is good. Now I've got who is his bloke? But 909 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 3: he was straight on an absolute really good guy. And 910 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 3: it was for a man down in Melbourne. The contacted 911 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 3: me he had that mode of neuron disease yep, yep. 912 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 3: I never didn't know much about that stuff. And he 913 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: had about five weeks to live and he contacted me 914 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 3: about battery powered equipment if he knew if I could 915 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 3: recommend stuff, because when he was to pass, he wanted 916 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 3: his wife and kids to be able to use something. 917 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: And so it was horrible and I got on. I 918 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 3: rang him up. After I got on the plane that 919 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: weekend went down to mill Dura and Melbourne and Victoria 920 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: and Nathan h donated shirt and silln gloves and all 921 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 3: that stuff. We were able to raise around ten thousand 922 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 3: dollars for him his family, and you know, Hawthorne stepped 923 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: in and got a whole lot of stuff. All these 924 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 3: people just there was a lot more other people. They 925 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 3: just all jumped in and I got to meet him. 926 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 3: Do they do all through you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. And 927 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: that's the thing. And when it comes to stuff like this, 928 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: look I'm a straight shooter. I don't always get it right, 929 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 3: but I don't muck around. I just I say how 930 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: it is. You know, I'm busy, people are busy. I 931 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 3: knew there's going to be formats here, emails, ringing, all that, 932 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: and even with Hawthorn Club, so they were fantastic. I 933 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 3: just said, look, it's like this, I'm going to be 934 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: down there in twenty four hours. I didn't have much time. 935 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 3: This man does not have much time left. What can 936 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 3: you do for me. We've got to skip this email process. 937 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: Please come to the party here, let's go. They give 938 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: jerseys and yeah, it signed stuff. Yeah, because that's what 939 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 3: I knew. I was sussed out what he was. He 940 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 3: sings and he said, you know, I said, what's sports? 941 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 3: You loving cricket as your favorite play anywhere? Nathan Line. 942 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's got it beautiful. So you know, 943 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 3: all these kinds of things and the community just moves 944 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 3: so quick and that made it easier. Fantastic, but obviously 945 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 3: sadly he passed a few weeks later. Really nice bloke. 946 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 3: He organized it was one of those things that they 947 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 3: actually organize this to happen. His last moments and all 948 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 3: this stuff, and he contacted me the night before and 949 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 3: we chatted and good man, And. 950 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: Because I saw on your Instagram page if you don't 951 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: mind rom example, I love your Instagram page. It says 952 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: in it please do your thing. It says the most 953 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: saddest story I've seen. Please in it, do your thing. 954 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: Go fund me link in my bio and hashtag helping others. 955 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: Australia trauma, single mum trending reels blah blah blah. 956 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: That was put up any five days ago? You remember 957 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: that one? Yeah, that was that was so that's that's 958 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 3: obviously that's a different that was a single mother. I 959 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 3: stay away from gofundmes and all that kind of stuff 960 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 3: because it gets difficult. And again I've said because of 961 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 3: my lifestyle, you know, a long time ago. You know, 962 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 3: trust was a big issue with me. You know, I'm 963 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 3: trusted here. And so I went, I knocked on this 964 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 3: lady's door. I didn't know she was there, know about her. 965 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 3: I drive out west, I go out to like bid 966 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 3: Will all those places. Once a month, I go to 967 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: see if I find a family. Went out there, but 968 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 3: no one answered the door. I was like, oh, what's happening. 969 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: So I drove back home. And as I was going 970 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 3: back home, I went through this area. It wasn't meant 971 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: to be. I just took a wrong turn and I 972 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 3: saw this overgrown yard and it was it was going 973 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,439 Speaker 3: to be knocked down. But I can't only sell about 974 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: the street, make a video, do something cool, whatever. And 975 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 3: then I decided to knock on the door and steady 976 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 3: and said I expected no one to live in there 977 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 3: because it wasn't livable, and yeah, yeah, it's about to 978 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 3: get knocked down. And then she started talking to me, 979 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 3: and I said, well, can I do it? And she's 980 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 3: like yeah, okay, And then she started talking to me 981 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: and I just started doing it. And then she came 982 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 3: out of a drink. And I never expect nothing, but 983 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 3: when someone comes out with me, it's down a tough 984 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 3: with a drink that says to me that they are 985 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 3: a decent person. That's just how I look at it. 986 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: And then we started chatting and then I don't know 987 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 3: what it is. I'll always share a bit of my 988 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 3: life to some people if they're struggling, so that they 989 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 3: know where on equal ground here. I'm no better, We're 990 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 3: the same, you know. And she just started opening up 991 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 3: and it was horrific. I can't go in all lot, 992 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 3: but it was horrific. And she's been through her helm 993 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 3: back and I said, right, we've got to do something here. 994 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 3: I know I've got platforms here. People always say get 995 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 3: behind it. Help. I thought, okay, let's go. So I said, 996 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: We're going to do a go fund me page. To her, 997 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: I said, whatever we get, it's all yours. We're going 998 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 3: to hopefully get you a place to rent, you know, 999 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: you licensing all these kinds of things, and her daughter 1000 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 3: and yeah, we're in five days. It was like just 1001 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: over seventy thousand dollars raised, and I did not expect that. 1002 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: I thought I'd be lucky to get five thousand dollars 1003 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 3: because you know, the times are tough for people. And 1004 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 3: so many people jumped on and I cut the I 1005 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 3: stopped it on, and I made it clear, you've also 1006 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 3: got to find the fine line too, where you're not 1007 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 3: getting too greedy and whatnot, you know, and it was 1008 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 3: it was just it was just perfect, and I went, 1009 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 3: that's it. So I took my partner now stepped in 1010 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 3: for the female support, and we came around and obviously 1011 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: we told you again, and we obviously stripped it, put 1012 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 3: it all into account. I have to upload it all 1013 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: and show every dog's Everyone knows what's happening. And we 1014 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 3: spent I spect to all yesterday, we spoke all the 1015 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 3: time of things. Now she's nearly got an apartment, she's 1016 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 3: got driving lessons and all this stuff. She getting the 1017 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 3: car registered, she's got a care that she's looking for 1018 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 3: for a daughter, a financial advisor, all these things that 1019 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 3: we make sure that it will set. So it's going 1020 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: to go because it's a lot of money and obviously 1021 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 3: she can't buy a home. She's unsandling. You're not gonna 1022 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 3: get the homelane, no savings. But see how we can 1023 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 3: do this that it's used properly. 1024 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: That's life changing. 1025 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 3: That So is that like therapy to you? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1026 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: yeah it's But I always say that that's and I 1027 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 3: mean this, that's not me. And I say that that 1028 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 3: is not me. That is the audience, the followers, that's 1029 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 3: them coming together facilitating it. Yeah, but again without them, 1030 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 3: this wouldn't happen. So the credit goes, the credit goes 1031 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 3: to them. And I say that for me doing that, 1032 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 3: it gets me able to go home, be appreciative of 1033 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 3: what I got, because you can easily be unappreciative. I'd 1034 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: be grateful for what I've got. I can remember where 1035 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 3: I came from, I can remember hard times and then 1036 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 3: so feeling that as a stranger that's allowed me in 1037 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: and we're able to help. But also when I see 1038 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 3: that there's a kid involved, there was a three year 1039 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 3: old daughter, beautiful, a little daughter. That's the bit that 1040 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 3: gets me to most, because I'm a father and they 1041 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 3: deserve be more than that. And that's where that's where 1042 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 3: I feel good, is that there's a little kid there. 1043 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 3: Now we're adults, but they're innocent, and her life now 1044 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 3: will hopefully be changed. 1045 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: You are I was going to say, you are changing 1046 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: people's lives in that regard. I mean you and most 1047 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 1: people sort of try to make money out of their platform. 1048 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean obviously make a living out of it, but 1049 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: most people just keeping for themselves. You're using your platform 1050 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: to help others and that and in that example, that 1051 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: is that will change their kid's life, the trajectory of 1052 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: their kid's life and the mum's life. Given where they 1053 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: were and probably about to get turfed out of the house. 1054 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: There there's no reason I herd to go and get 1055 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: the lauds. Much a matter of money to do it anyway, 1056 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: or the equipment, but that you actually have changed her life. 1057 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: You're introducing her to things that you would never otherwise 1058 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: get introduced to. She now can get a license, you 1059 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: can get a driver drive, or she can go and 1060 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: get driving lessons, et cetera. She can become independent, probably 1061 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 1: get a cheaper car, but unless you can get around, 1062 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: she could probably the daughter three or probably won't know 1063 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: the difference that much at three, but we'll certainly remember 1064 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: it one day. 1065 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean, do you feel as though you're being blessed 1066 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: with this opportunity? 1067 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? And as I always say, this has a lot 1068 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 3: to do with her people following getting behind this. But 1069 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 3: I believe I was meant to go to where I went. 1070 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 3: There was a reason for it that I didn't understand, 1071 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 3: and now I believe that I was meant to struggle 1072 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 3: to then be where it is today and be able 1073 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 3: to to because I understand the situations, be able to 1074 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 3: go to them and use these platforms that I've been 1075 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 3: luckily given to do the right thing to. I always say, 1076 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 3: to wrong my to right my wrongs, the same, whatever 1077 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 3: it is to do that to spread some positivity and 1078 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 3: get the community together and show the people that follow 1079 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 3: me that I'm grateful for they've given me. If that 1080 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 3: makes sense. Yeah. 1081 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: What's interesting man, that too is that you've found a 1082 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: way to help all of us help others. And that's 1083 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: good for all of us. Which is why when you 1084 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 1: put up a go fund me for example, and that example, 1085 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: that people are willing to put some put a few 1086 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: bucks up, because actually people canice a lot of people 1087 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: can see themselves in those situations a little bit. You know, 1088 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: there's quite often people can maybe not as extreme as 1089 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: that that particular example, but they can see everyone through. 1090 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: Mostly everybody's been through some tough times, especially business owners, 1091 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: and they can just something that they can say they go, aye, 1092 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: but for the grace of God, I could be in 1093 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot worse position. I could be in her position 1094 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: but for someone or something that has helped me. In 1095 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: your case, it was the two people from the s 1096 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: and your uncle a Nati and probably some other some 1097 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: other examples that you haven't shared with say, but a 1098 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: lot of people never get that, never get those opportunities. 1099 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: It gets and then to some extent, and I always 1100 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: talking abot about paying forward my luck, paying forward your luck. 1101 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: It's but it comes a big responsibility too, because do 1102 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: you get hit up a lot? Now do how do 1103 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: you manage that part of it? 1104 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 3: Look, what's for real? I well, first I say, look, 1105 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm I'm old school, and I'm sadly, which is nothing 1106 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 3: to glorify, but sadly, when you've lived a life like 1107 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 3: I am, you become streets smart. You know, when the 1108 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 3: bullshitter I would say, you got a bullshit a bullshitter, 1109 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Unfortunately and fortunately in your case. Now, Yeah, 1110 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 3: and I am very aware of real and not real. 1111 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 3: But look, I can't help everyone. I try my best, 1112 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 3: and I always when I look at stuff, I'll see 1113 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 3: what I feel is a more priority in all the 1114 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 3: messages you know, obviously sickness or I'll senior sits and 1115 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I'll focus that that's the first thing, 1116 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, and going back. Look, and I always say money, 1117 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 3: Money was not good with me. It was a disaster 1118 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 3: thing from me. I couldn't handle. It couldn't no, it 1119 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 3: was it was my enemy. And that's why I say 1120 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,479 Speaker 3: now like, obviously my life's different, but I pay my bills, 1121 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 3: I save, I do whatever, fantastic. But at the end 1122 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 3: of the day, what I learned is I thought money 1123 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 3: would make you happy, make happy, money not make you happy. 1124 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't. 1125 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't, and things make it more committed, and all 1126 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got shit. 1127 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: I got that. 1128 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 3: More work. So that's why it's easier for me to 1129 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 3: give it, to give stuff away, because it helps me 1130 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 3: in the longer run. You know, it just makes me feel. 1131 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 3: It feels I was always looking for something, and I 1132 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 3: thought money was what was going to make me happy. 1133 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 3: But it's not so doing this, that's what feels. Doing 1134 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 3: the stuff. That's honestly what does can actually bear this anything. 1135 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 2: So this this post was put up five days ago. 1136 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: That's pretty fresh. 1137 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: The adventures of Nathan's Lawns and gardens. And it's got 1138 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: there the Haunted Jungle and they can't readly be there. 1139 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: So Nathan stuff and Kelly Hughes and what is that 1140 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: a book or something or a movie or video. 1141 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 3: There's a picture of you. Yeah, So I'm actually really 1142 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 3: proud of this. This is a team effort man, Kelly 1143 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 3: and obviously the illustrators and and that. So I got 1144 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: a lot of kids, you know, watch my videos for 1145 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 3: the sound of the noise and you know, machines and 1146 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 3: all that stuff. And I got a lot of messages about, 1147 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: you know, what can you do for the children. So 1148 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 3: I said, okay, what are we going to do here? 1149 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 3: So we decided the platforms are there, let's I'm all 1150 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 3: for taking risks. Let's let's do something here. So we've 1151 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 3: come out with a kid's book. It's a picture book, 1152 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 3: twenty eight pages, a little story, and the story is 1153 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 3: basically about helping an old lady Nancy. That's my NaN's name, 1154 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 3: she's ninety seven. Yeah, I had alf day the other 1155 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 3: day helping helping someone. So trying to spread that message 1156 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: of kindness and that and what. And also because I'm 1157 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 3: big with the Hearts Center for Kids at Westmain Children. 1158 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 3: They saved my son's life. It's important to me. So 1159 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 3: everything I do, I try to raise some money for them. 1160 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 3: So for every order, two dollars will go. I know 1161 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 3: it's not a lot, but all that's something. Two dollars 1162 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 3: will go to the foundation. It's important to me. And look, 1163 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm really happy with it. As I said, it's it's 1164 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: not our we don't have it physically yet. It's just 1165 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 3: I've just brought out for pre orders and we're navigating 1166 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 3: through this whole process of pre order. Yeah, so it's 1167 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 3: coming out, Yeah, it's all. It's all. It's coming out 1168 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 3: in the end of October. It's everying on my website only, 1169 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 3: and I'm excited about it. You gotta laugh because I've 1170 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: already had heaps of requests to come and do readings 1171 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 3: in school, and I'm like, I left school. If you died, 1172 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 3: I am gonna go and read books. 1173 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: That's got that's one if will buy one, but and 1174 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: we'll put up we'll do a little video on it, 1175 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: because I love that sort of stuff. 1176 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty cool that. Do you think about 1177 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: where you've. 1178 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 2: Come from, mate, Like, left school year nine. 1179 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,919 Speaker 1: Here you are producing kids books and you got nearly 1180 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: three million, millions and millions and millions of followers. Like 1181 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: engaging with such a huge community, doing good stuff for 1182 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of all types of people, helping people change, 1183 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: change people's lives. 1184 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Has it made me feel you reflect back. 1185 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 3: On I think, h mm hmmm. I think what I 1186 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 3: try to do here is as I said, I wasn't 1187 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 3: maybe the perfect son, but sorry, man, I've got kids 1188 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 3: and I want. 1189 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 4: I want them to be proud of me and and 1190 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 4: not live the life that I did and have a 1191 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 4: better life. And you know, your father is someone that 1192 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 4: you look up to, and I want them to sort 1193 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 4: of look up to me. And so you did a 1194 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 4: good job. 1195 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think that's pretty much. Sitting here today 1196 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: is going to be guaranteed. You're doing a great job. 1197 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: And as one of your followers, and I've been following 1198 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 1: it for a long time, this wasn't. 1199 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: A produced thing. 1200 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I requested this as a result of seeing you somewhere 1201 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: and know where I saw you, and I've been following 1202 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: me ever since, and I've been trying to get to 1203 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: you for ages because I just wanted to meet you. 1204 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: You probably never thought you'd be sitting on my podcast. 1205 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 3: Made I used to watch you on Framers. Yep. I 1206 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 3: just a lovely bit where you say you fired. Yeah, 1207 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 3: but you know about that. 1208 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: When they first asked me what I do it, I 1209 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: felt quite uncomfortable with saying you're fired. And the first 1210 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: time I said you're fired, I didn't. I just said 1211 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you're fired, okay. In when we were filming and they 1212 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: said no, no, no, you have to do it again, 1213 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: I said, I just fight him. I can't do it again, 1214 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: they said, but you got to point. It was Donald 1215 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Trump used to point, and you've got to have that 1216 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: thumb up like that and the thinger like that and 1217 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: handle that and you've got to point at him with it. 1218 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Right hand and say you're fired. 1219 01:03:59,320 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 3: You got to say. 1220 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I found it really difficult, like I felt bad because 1221 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: apart from anything that didn't work for me, it's a 1222 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: TV show and I had to act this out and 1223 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I did it about twenty times. They made me do 1224 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: it late twenty times. And the poor person who was 1225 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: sitting there I came who was the first person I fired. 1226 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: But in the very first show, that person had to 1227 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: sit there and watch me say you'll fired twenty times. 1228 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: So that was and well, thanks for watching it. But mate, 1229 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: now I'm a fan of yours. I'm watching you and 1230 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: importantly you're doing a great job. We all of us 1231 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: who follow we appreciate what you're doing and allowing us 1232 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to participate in your good dunes bade and what a 1233 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: great story, brilliant story. 1234 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 3: And say, lady your father law for me, mate, wait, 1235 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 3: thanks for having me. Thank you