Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Can
Speaker 1: I get Eaven me Happy Thursday? Lots to get to tonight,
Speaker 1: including I know you've heard a lot about the population
Speaker 1: number hitting twenty seven million tonight. Well there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of data nobody else got to. So I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what is happening in your state, specifically with a
Speaker 1: number of people being brought into the country. Now we
Speaker 1: know the Greens. They talk a big game, but surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how they actually roll when it comes
Speaker 1: to more units in their part of Australia. And an
Speaker 1: interesting idea about whether or not we should ban how
Speaker 1: to vote cards. I don't hate the idea. But first
Speaker 1: we know the Prime ministers in a world of trouble.
Speaker 1: We saw it today on what would otherwise be known
Speaker 1: as a home game. Now take your pick. Every pole
Speaker 1: tells us that this government is headed towards a minority.
Speaker 1: The one that came out this week really shocked the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister, and it was that there's a chance of
Speaker 1: a Dutton minority, not just the inevitable of a labor minority.
Speaker 1: The overall look at the polls here, each dot is
Speaker 1: a different pole. You can start to see what was
Speaker 1: good is now bad and is now sub fifty not
Speaker 1: to mention fifty seven percent of people who so they
Speaker 1: can't name a single thing that this government has actually
Speaker 1: done to make their life better. So a prime minister
Speaker 1: who is wounded in the polls before he jumps on
Speaker 1: to Toto one that you pay for and I for
Speaker 1: him to yet another airbus elbow, this time urgently to
Speaker 1: go over to see the living corpse that is Joe Biden. Well,
Speaker 1: he had an interview today and it was on Radio National.
Speaker 1: It is with a favored presenter and I've got to
Speaker 1: say a nice lady. I disagree with her on many things,
Speaker 1: but a nice lady nonetheless, Patricia Carvellis. And as I said,
Speaker 1: it's a home game, it's hardly adversarial. That's only for
Speaker 1: liberal politicians.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi joins me now on Radio
Speaker 2: National Breakfast, Prime Minister, wonderful to have you back.
Speaker 1: Nice when friends get to talk and we get to listen. Well,
Speaker 1: as you will have heard by now, it was a
Speaker 1: shocking interview because not only was he cranky, but he
Speaker 1: got some major detail very very wrong about the number
Speaker 1: one issue in the country, that being the economy. I'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. But even the Sydney
Speaker 1: Morning Herald noticed that this was not the interview that
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister had come to expect, because God forbid,
Speaker 1: he was getting a tough time because in this case,
Speaker 1: the host didn't think the Prime Minister had been far
Speaker 1: left enough.
Speaker 2: Are those tax policies completely off the table for you?
Speaker 3: Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort
Speaker 3: of questions in the way that.
Speaker 2: You mean good ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: Are you are you going to say no to those
Speaker 2: or not?
Speaker 3: There are things that journalists The next question is when
Speaker 3: will the election be No, that's not my next question. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well they're not terribly clever questions.
Speaker 1: Oh hello, hello, break up in oil radio National. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: They got a had another hunt later in the interview.
Speaker 1: But we've seen the Prime Minister do this before. He
Speaker 1: was on radio in Sydney when he thought that it
Speaker 1: was sixty forty yes for the voice about this time
Speaker 1: last year, but of course it was sixty forty no,
Speaker 1: yes or no?
Speaker 4: Will the voice be able to speak directly to the RBA.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't talk directly to the RBA board. So no,
Speaker 3: and I'm the Prime minister. No, Ben Okay, can I
Speaker 3: make this point because I know where you're reading from.
Speaker 3: You're reading from the NO pamphlet.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not reading. Excuse me, prime minister reading. Excuse
Speaker 4: me well that no reading? Excuse me, well it is.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 4: Reading from the NO pamphlet. I'm reading from my own
Speaker 4: questions that I have written.
Speaker 1: No, I'm want to fly.
Speaker 4: You've just accused me of reading from a pamphlet reading.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: So I see those quotes are from the NO pamphlet,
Speaker 3: which they are.
Speaker 1: I said on that very day that that may well
Speaker 1: have been the moment that the voice was lost. Well,
Speaker 1: when this Prime minister, who is already down in the polls,
Speaker 1: who already in opinion polls, has more than fifty percent
Speaker 1: of people saying he's doing a poor or very poor job,
Speaker 1: is this the day that he lost Radio National? Probably not,
Speaker 1: but to the actual thing that we should be talking
Speaker 1: about about this interview, which was his absolute lack of
Speaker 1: knowledge about the way the economy works and more importantly,
Speaker 1: how Australia is behind the eight ball on places like
Speaker 1: the United States, where in their presidential election. The failures
Speaker 1: of that economy are of course the number one issue. Now.
Speaker 1: He was asked a question about interest rates and about
Speaker 1: financial pain that people have right now. The obvious comparison
Speaker 1: was what was happening in the United States, where as
Speaker 1: we told you and previewed this week, there has been
Speaker 1: a dramatic cut in interest rates about half of one percent. Now,
Speaker 1: their rates ended up going up higher and faster than ours.
Speaker 1: But still the reason that interest rates get cut is
Speaker 1: when the economy is st arding to slow and they
Speaker 1: want to get money flowing around the economy. Now, that's
Speaker 1: great if you're trying to borrow, which all of us
Speaker 1: to some degree are involved in it, or certainly a
Speaker 1: third of the country. Is when you're paying off your
Speaker 1: own place, another third paying off an investment property. Good
Speaker 1: luck to you. If you've paid off your house, you
Speaker 1: worked hard to do it. But the same blog you
Speaker 1: didn't know what the unemployment rate was when he was
Speaker 1: going for the job application a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: has no idea what's happening when it comes to our economy,
Speaker 1: our interest rates, and why things are changing in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 2: It's taking a long time, and people are in a
Speaker 2: protracted period of pain.
Speaker 3: That's correct, and that's a global phenomenon, Patricia.
Speaker 2: Well, in the US the cutting rates Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: Because the economy is so slow. That's why they're cutting rates, Patricia,
Speaker 3: and inflation.
Speaker 2: Their economic growth is higher than ours.
Speaker 1: Correct, he does not know what the comparison is between
Speaker 1: our economy and the biggest economy in the Western world,
Speaker 1: that being the United States. This floke is not across
Speaker 1: detail because he thinks he doesn't need to be. He
Speaker 1: thinks that his interpersonal connection will be enough for Australians
Speaker 1: to always back albow Well. Every evidence right now is
Speaker 1: that the majority of Australians are not interested in that.
Speaker 1: What he thinks is a secret source of his own
Speaker 1: personality is now going to start to work against him again.
Speaker 1: I turned to the Daily Mail because they were the
Speaker 1: ones who actually focused on this, and rightly so, about
Speaker 1: how big a problem this was. The US economy is
Speaker 1: booming compared to Australia. We've talked a lot about how
Speaker 1: growth in this country is enemic. Quarters of zero point
Speaker 1: two percent. Put them all together, Australia is just one percent.
Speaker 1: The US is at three percent. This in Australia at
Speaker 1: one percent is the slowest annual growth since nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 1: outside of a global pandemic, of course, released upon all
Speaker 1: of us by our old mates in China, who we
Speaker 1: can never disagree with, can we, beautiful boy. And the
Speaker 1: results of this bloke's economy is that there has been
Speaker 1: a dozen interest rate rises on his watch, a dozen,
Speaker 1: but the political praetorian guard around him says the thirteenth
Speaker 1: will be the problem. Wake up, mate. It's fine for
Speaker 1: him who's living in not one, but two taxpayer funded
Speaker 1: mansions so he can boot the tenants out of his
Speaker 1: property that he's going to sell for almost two midian
Speaker 1: bucks in Sydney. Completely he is right, but he's not
Speaker 1: paying anything off in the way that you and I
Speaker 1: are doing it, the way that your kids are struggling
Speaker 1: to even get into the housing market. Now, this was
Speaker 1: a point that was pointed out by Peter van Nonslin
Speaker 1: after hearing that interview this morning. And then there's a
Speaker 1: response to his tweet. Let me tell you first, the
Speaker 1: PVO version the PAN points out that US economic growth
Speaker 1: is so slow when its economy is growing four times
Speaker 1: as fast as ours, and a lady called Betsy Stevenson,
Speaker 1: who used to be an economic advisor to Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: We have to get advice from Americans here about the
Speaker 1: lie the Prime Minister tells this signals that he isn't
Speaker 1: listening to the people around him who knows something about
Speaker 1: the macro economy. The ods economy is a bit too
Speaker 1: fragile for that sort of negligence. My apology, in my
Speaker 1: humble opinion, absolutely correct. The Treasurer of Australia runs around
Speaker 1: and is referred to as doctor Chalmers because the assumption
Speaker 1: is that you will think that he has a doctorate
Speaker 1: in economics. He doesn't. He has a doctorate in political communication,
Speaker 1: which was entirely focused on how Paul Keating sold his
Speaker 1: economic message. Now, the australianomy is in a per capita recession.
Speaker 1: This means you and I and everyone else watching has
Speaker 1: been going backwards for the best part of eighteen months.
Speaker 1: The federal government has a surplus though because of mining royalties,
Speaker 1: the very industry that they do everything they can to
Speaker 1: shut down, including in the Northern Territory right now and
Speaker 1: the Beaterloo gas basin. It also is able because of
Speaker 1: a quirk of accounting, to use the profit from the
Speaker 1: Future Fund and count that towards a government surplus. But
Speaker 1: the reality is that this government has got tens of
Speaker 1: billions of dollars of borrowed money off budget. This is
Speaker 1: how they're able to pay for things like future funds
Speaker 1: and made in Australia, and money for former prime ministers
Speaker 1: and billionaire mates to be able to get their companies
Speaker 1: to get access to taxpayer funds because it's all off budget.
Speaker 1: Sequence of this sort of arrogance is not just political,
Speaker 1: but when this bloke is the chairman of the board
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know what the other countries are doing
Speaker 1: and what is going on in other countries, including the
Speaker 1: one he is flying to as we speak, this bloke
Speaker 1: is up the creek without a paddle and the canoe
Speaker 1: is leaking. Now remember last year when you were told
Speaker 1: by clueless Clear O'Neil, that idiot Immigration Minister Andrew Giles
Speaker 1: and the Prime Minister that we're going to cut the
Speaker 1: amount of overseas migration because they knew that Australians had
Speaker 1: had enough of an excessive amount of people, hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of people being brought into a country. Where as
Speaker 1: we have told you this week, a bloke died because
Speaker 1: he was waiting for an ambulance, an ambulance that was
Speaker 1: called at two o'clock in the morning but didn't turn
Speaker 1: up at six o'clock in the morning until six o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning. That's the reality of the health system
Speaker 1: in Victoria. Hospital ramping is bad in every state, near
Speaker 1: record levels. Regardless of how new or old the government is.
Speaker 1: There are huge problems in Australia that more people don't fix.
Speaker 1: It only fixes the federal budget bottom line, which means
Speaker 1: they're able to say the economy is amazing because we're
Speaker 1: in front gold star for us. Again, the people who
Speaker 1: actually pay the taxes are going backwards. The only way
Speaker 1: that the country is slowly putting forward is because of
Speaker 1: pay rises for public servants and how many more public
Speaker 1: servants they have been hiring. But of course, because labor
Speaker 1: politicians for a generation have told us that every kid
Speaker 1: has to go to UNI, regardless of whether that's a
Speaker 1: unique course that you will actually be able to turn
Speaker 1: into a job or you're just learn how to be
Speaker 1: a lefty. We have seen not enough people to have
Speaker 1: trade certificates apprenticeships in this country, so we're told we
Speaker 1: have to bring in all of these extra people. There's
Speaker 1: not enough places to buy or rent in Australia today
Speaker 1: for everyone who was here two years ago, let alone today,
Speaker 1: where we learn that the Australian population is now twenty
Speaker 1: seven million people. Now the population growth is not because
Speaker 1: we are having bubbers, but because we are bussing them
Speaker 1: in every ten minutes. Australia's population is officially surpassed twenty
Speaker 1: seven million, overseas migration driving eighty three percent of the
Speaker 1: population growth in the past year. Now, let me show
Speaker 1: you again some numbers which you have not seen in
Speaker 1: other places. Tonight. The total population is now twenty seven million,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty two thousand, four hundred and eleven people.
Speaker 1: That is up six hundred and fifteen thousand, three hundred
Speaker 1: people in a year. Of those one hundred and five thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred people are natural increase. So when you take
Speaker 1: away the number of people who die at it with
Speaker 1: the number of people who are born, the natural increase
Speaker 1: in our population was just one hundred thousand people half
Speaker 1: a million people. In the past twelve months, five hundred
Speaker 1: and nine thousand, eight hundred people have come in from overseas.
Speaker 1: That's why we are at twenty seven million. Now, that's
Speaker 1: why it is so hard to find a rental place.
Speaker 1: That's why when your ring triple O, the ambulance may
Speaker 1: not turn up because it's waiting in a hospital. And
Speaker 1: a bloke died this week as a result of this problem. Now,
Speaker 1: let me break this down state by state to make
Speaker 1: it very clear what is going on here and how
Speaker 1: this is a phenomena that is nation wide. In New
Speaker 1: South Wales, their natural increase is three is thirty thousand,
Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy six. Okay, so that is deaths
Speaker 1: minus births. That's the number of extra people that we
Speaker 1: have via natural means in New South Wales. One hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty eight thousand, one hundred and forty eight people,
Speaker 1: mostly going to Western Sydney, have been dumped into our
Speaker 1: community to make the federal budget look good. New South
Speaker 1: Wales also saw of all of the people who moved
Speaker 1: and all of the people who left the state, thirty
Speaker 1: one thousand, one hundred and eighty three people who left
Speaker 1: the state of New South Wales. But even then there
Speaker 1: was still an increase in population because of that number
Speaker 1: of overseas. In Victoria, the natural increase is thirty one thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty two one hundred and fifty one thousand,
Speaker 1: seven hundred and forty people come in via immigration. That's
Speaker 1: why there's a rental queue that goes around the block
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get a one better anywhere in Melbourne. Now, amazingly,
Speaker 1: of all the people who came and went, the grand
Speaker 1: increase to the population was five hundred and thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Nothing happening when it comes to Victoria. This is after
Speaker 1: that a huge amount of people leave. Last year, the
Speaker 1: natural increase in the population berts versus deaths twenty thousand,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy two, four times higher was the
Speaker 1: amount that came in via immigration, and thirty thousand people
Speaker 1: from the rest of the country coming to Queensland. It
Speaker 1: is even darker in smaller states. The natural increase was
Speaker 1: about three thousand. In South Australia, the immigration was almost
Speaker 1: ten times higher at twenty six thousand people, as sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred people left the state. In Western Australia, the natural
Speaker 1: increase is fourteen thousand, the immigration four times higher at
Speaker 1: sixty four nine hundred and two. That's why property prices
Speaker 1: in Perth keep going up Now to put this in
Speaker 1: even stronger language for people to understand, which is that
Speaker 1: the population of twenty seven million has dramatically increased by
Speaker 1: almost a million people exclusively that have come into the
Speaker 1: country since Albanese became Prime minister. Now I am not
Speaker 1: counting some of the numbers from twenty twenty two because
Speaker 1: of course took over May June, so about half of
Speaker 1: that year, so I could add it, but the twelve
Speaker 1: months to March of this year five hundred thousand people
Speaker 1: before that four hundred and fifty four throw it all together,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty four thousand, two hundred people who
Speaker 1: weren't here two years ago. Now again you have a
Speaker 1: look at these numbers. This is your net migration of
Speaker 1: people who have come to the country in your state.
Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand in New South Wales, almost that in Victoria,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand in Queensland, fifty thousand in
Speaker 1: South Australia. Are one hundred and seventeen thousand people in
Speaker 1: Western Australia. The consequences of all of this stuff is
Speaker 1: the pressure that exists on services. Now all of us
Speaker 1: know that the hospitals aren't up to scratch, for twenty
Speaker 1: five million people, let alone twenty seven We know the
Speaker 1: education system is not up to scratch for twenty five
Speaker 1: million people, not twenty seven million people. This is the issue,
Speaker 1: the housing supply issues that I now notice they're trying
Speaker 1: to blame the former government. Get your hand off it.
Speaker 1: You on your watch, have brought in almost a million
Speaker 1: people so you can puff up your own federal budget
Speaker 1: so you can go to an election and tell people
Speaker 1: the economy, where they have been going backwards for eighteen months,
Speaker 1: is rosy because it's a Ponzi scheme. Now again this matters. Now,
Speaker 1: of course this government says we're going to pull back.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They've already at three quarters of the way
Speaker 1: through the year basically hit the number that they said
Speaker 1: was the reduced number for this year. For their part,
Speaker 1: the opposition, well, they're making the most of it because
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they. Why shouldn't they.
Speaker 5: The population is increasing predominantly because of immigration. You've had
Speaker 5: more than a million people come in and there is
Speaker 5: literally nowhere to put them. And the government's proposal or
Speaker 5: they'll own forty percent of your house. Can you imagine
Speaker 5: your monthly, six monthly or yearly audits and inspections from
Speaker 5: the government for their forty percent, them directing your maintenance
Speaker 5: and what you've got to do. And the kids have
Speaker 5: bashed the wall with something or throw on the xbox
Speaker 5: and you have to fix it because the government wants
Speaker 5: their bit covered. This is communism one oh one. We
Speaker 5: want people to be able to access their super funds
Speaker 5: to buy a home because it's their money.
Speaker 1: Do you see a trend emerging here? They spin you
Speaker 1: constantly about how amazing everything is. The tax cut's too little,
Speaker 1: too late. The power relief does not touch the sides
Speaker 1: of what has increased on their watch, the number of
Speaker 1: people that have come into the country, making every other
Speaker 1: thing you have to queue for harder because they obsessively
Speaker 1: told a generation of kids it's dumb to pick up tools.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. We just open the gates. We just
Speaker 1: say more, more, more now Again. For anyone who wants
Speaker 1: to half listen to this and pretend that this is
Speaker 1: some sort of rant against people coming from certain parts
Speaker 1: of the world, I don't care. I've said every single
Speaker 1: time we talk about immigration. It's not about where people
Speaker 1: are from, what they look like, what language they speak,
Speaker 1: what food they what God, all of that crap. It
Speaker 1: is about the pressure that already exists on our system.
Speaker 1: But because the bureaucrats do not see a single thing
Speaker 1: change for them, because the politicians do not see anything
Speaker 1: change for them, because it is to their advantage to
Speaker 1: keep adding and adding and adding to the queue while
Speaker 1: turning around and announcing band aid solutions to roads that
Speaker 1: are buggered up or hospital systems that have failed. You
Speaker 1: want to do something serious to let Australia have a
Speaker 1: chance to bread, you need to pause this number at
Speaker 1: this rate. I'm sorry, but just these people and if
Speaker 1: you talk about it, oh right, it's not about that.
Speaker 1: Another detail today now again unemployment basically the same rate
Speaker 1: that it's been. So the headlines all say unemployment, no
Speaker 1: major change, steady, amazing, great, another tick for the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister in economic management. Well guess what, There is actually
Speaker 1: a little devil in the detail here that might be
Speaker 1: worth pointing out to people. We dive into this stuff
Speaker 1: so you can know about it. So when you are
Speaker 1: armed with the facts, the information, the data, you can
Speaker 1: win an argument. And there will be some about this
Speaker 1: this weekend, no doubt.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: The unemployment numbers which came out today via again, our
Speaker 1: friends of the Bureau of Statistics, that far right wing
Speaker 1: think tank Jeez have been busy today. Have a look
Speaker 1: at this. The number of people who lost a full
Speaker 1: time job was three one hundred people. Those were not
Speaker 1: replaced with more full time jobs. No, they were replaced
Speaker 1: with a football stadium of part time jobs. Now, anyone
Speaker 1: with a part time job may find it a little
Speaker 1: bit difficult to get a home loan, may find it
Speaker 1: a little bit difficult to keep that job for long
Speaker 1: enough to be able to get enough time banked up
Speaker 1: to be able to go on holidays. The part time
Speaker 1: job does not pay the same as the full time job.
Speaker 1: And we know everything costs more. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when they turn around and say, well inflation three is
Speaker 1: better than four, three is better than five, add them
Speaker 1: all together and it is just an endless rise. Just
Speaker 1: because the rise a little bit slower right now, does
Speaker 1: not mean that things have gone down. Everything costs more,
Speaker 1: the pressure for everything is greater, and the replacement is
Speaker 1: not full time employment. This is the sort of stuff
Speaker 1: that you would see in and around Christmas time when
Speaker 1: people hire extra people to work in the shops or
Speaker 1: to help get the deliveries done. In and around the
Speaker 1: end of the year. But of course what would these
Speaker 1: people know about business. None of them have any serious
Speaker 1: experience and in fact, remember only two members of the
Speaker 1: Cabinet have any experience when it comes to small business.
Speaker 1: Allegedly the Arts Minister Tony Burke, somewhere that I can't
Speaker 1: find in his bio was him working in a small business.
Speaker 1: The other one is Don Farrell. His small business was
Speaker 1: a wine label that he launched in between his time
Speaker 1: in the Senate. That's it. This is the type of
Speaker 1: people that are running the show right now. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the interest rate decision in the
Speaker 1: United States, where they're coming down, coming down by zero
Speaker 1: point five half of one percent. That's a pretty big cut.
Speaker 1: But according to the Financial Review, don't expect that here
Speaker 1: in Australia because we are not growing the way they are.
Speaker 1: Our inflation is not coming down the way it is
Speaker 1: over in places like the United States. Instead, you will
Speaker 1: continue to have to find thousands and thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: extra to payoff a house, to pay off a loan
Speaker 1: that you didn't have to until this bloke and Grimjim
Speaker 1: became the people in charge of our economy. I give
Speaker 1: you the data in laborious detail because data wins arguments.
Speaker 1: And now the Greens. Now we know that the Greens
Speaker 1: love to pretend that Australia needs more housing and it
Speaker 1: needs more affordable housing, It needs more units. We need
Speaker 1: more places where people are going to be able to
Speaker 1: find somewhere to live because of you know, immigration. But
Speaker 1: this is what they say all the time.
Speaker 7: The Prime Minister needs to stop bulldozing and start negotiating
Speaker 7: with the Greens to fix the housing and rental crisis.
Speaker 2: Have freezers on rent increases and we can fhares out
Speaker 2: negative gearing.
Speaker 1: Try telling the hundreds of thousands of people waiting for
Speaker 1: a public home that the government building public housing again
Speaker 1: is immature. But when it comes to how they actually
Speaker 1: walk as opposed to what they talk, this is how
Speaker 1: the Greens really roll. There are three of them in
Speaker 1: and around Southeast Queensland. They think they're going to via
Speaker 1: the housing issues to be able to grow at the
Speaker 1: next election. But guess what the Greens oppose development in
Speaker 1: their own electorates. The three from Southeast Queensland scene here, Well,
Speaker 1: they put out a little bit of a flyer to
Speaker 1: tell people in their cashed up electorates how to fight
Speaker 1: more units. The pro housing people are fighting housing in
Speaker 1: their electorates. It's a little bit like the Teals who
Speaker 1: say we must have more renewable energy, but if you
Speaker 1: wanted to put a single solar panel on a doggie
Speaker 1: park in a Teal seat, they'd freak out again. Good
Speaker 1: reporting here from the Brisbane Times. Federal Green's campaigning for
Speaker 1: affordable housing in camera have opposed apartment blocks in their
Speaker 1: own inner city electorates, distributing pamphlets instructing residents of how
Speaker 1: to flood local councils with objections. The Greens housing firebrand
Speaker 1: and fellow MPs have resisted eight projects or rezonings for
Speaker 1: several thousand new dwellings. Letters from the MPs to council
Speaker 1: officials show several of these high density projects are in
Speaker 1: wealth if your inner suburbs have also been opposed by
Speaker 1: state and local labor politicians, undermining both parties rhetoric on
Speaker 1: housing when it comes for the fight for votes in
Speaker 1: these key electorates. So what a surprise the sanct demonious,
Speaker 1: I won't say it, sanc demonious people of the left
Speaker 1: who tell you you've got to put up with it.
Speaker 1: You've got to put up with more migration, You've got
Speaker 1: to put up with more units. You've got to put
Speaker 1: up with the renewable energy projects in their electorates. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that'll change the character the character of our community, our
Speaker 1: village like atmosphere sticker where the sun don't shine. Now, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: we know the ABC could never be wrong. You have
Speaker 1: heard all week about well pretty obviously doctor footage when
Speaker 1: it came to one of their major award winning exclusives
Speaker 1: in and around alleged war crimes in Afghanistan. But what
Speaker 1: about the sooking that comes from the bloke who should
Speaker 1: just be saying sorry or sacking people for what they've
Speaker 1: been caught doing red handed? Justin Stevens is the bloke
Speaker 1: who are like lefty Laura Tingle who's decided to turn
Speaker 1: legitimate observation and criticism about what this publicly funded media
Speaker 1: company does and turned it passive aggressive. We expect scrutiny
Speaker 1: on the ABC to be rigorous and thorough, and I
Speaker 1: don't shy away when it's warranted. Well, Powe, what's going
Speaker 1: on with what you've been caught doing this week? But
Speaker 1: sometimes what called scrutiny is really an agenda driven attack
Speaker 1: motivated by ideological, personal or commercial interests. Have you actually
Speaker 1: had a look at how that statement would apply to
Speaker 1: your own organization, Your own organization that always finds a
Speaker 1: way not to do one program on a subject, but
Speaker 1: three or four or multiples on some objects that you
Speaker 1: don't like, the turnaround and constantly air expose as that
Speaker 1: at best are a five minute story that they spin
Speaker 1: out into hour long stories because it does all of
Speaker 1: those things. The same organization that, by the way, I notice,
Speaker 1: never mention the survey about sexual harassment in their own organization,
Speaker 1: a survey of their own staff, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: they underpaid by millions of dollars on a You see,
Speaker 1: what they believe is that they should be able to
Speaker 1: practice hard left journalism, They should be able to use
Speaker 1: the worst tactics of tabloid television. But because there's no
Speaker 1: ads around it, it's an expose that is award worthy,
Speaker 1: and any and every time somebody points this out, they
Speaker 1: just draw back in on themselves and they give themselves
Speaker 1: an award. They've been caught red handed this week. If
Speaker 1: anyone else had done what they has been proven to
Speaker 1: be done, by them. We know what their attitude would be.
Speaker 1: But of course or they're not allowed to accept such
Speaker 1: criticism because apparently it's personal. For the four hundredth time,
Speaker 1: I understand the value of public broadcasting. I understand the
Speaker 1: value of journalism that, when practiced at its best heights
Speaker 1: can be some of the best that is out there.
Speaker 1: But they want to say this about their critics. It
Speaker 1: applies to them. The proof the reaction to what I
Speaker 1: just said. Now something far happier and at the other
Speaker 1: end of the pond. You know, I love my super cars,
Speaker 1: absolutely love my supercars. Big news this week, of course. Now,
Speaker 1: traditionally the fight was Ford and Holden. Holden sadly disappears,
Speaker 1: so it's Ford versus Chevy. A perfect example of this
Speaker 1: would be well, the start of last year's Bathist. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's just an excuse for me to watch it again.
Speaker 1: Brace yourself for another great race Australia. It is showtime.
Speaker 6: Had a great start by Jamie win Copho swings to
Speaker 6: the lead from Ruffle on the.
Speaker 1: Way up Mountain Straight in some trouble back at the start. No, no,
Speaker 1: don't cut it. There's one hundred and sixty one more
Speaker 1: laps let's just keep it playing for another five hours.
Speaker 1: By the way, I come out for the Bathist channel
Speaker 1: when that launches on Fox Sports, Ko Fox to Order,
Speaker 1: I come wait my favorite time of the year. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what, there's about to be another entrant, and as
Speaker 1: you can see on the screen, it's going to be Toyota.
Speaker 1: This is huge news, and it's great news because when
Speaker 1: companies go racing, they want to go selling in a market.
Speaker 1: So Toyota joined Supercars. It does so twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: the great Neil Crompton helped make this happen. This is
Speaker 1: right up there with the most important things that have
Speaker 1: happened in the last couple of decades. So it triangulates
Speaker 1: the battle now between three great brands. Congratulations Crompo, Skafie
Speaker 1: and everyone else involved. This is huge news for my
Speaker 1: favorite sport in the world. Cantdown to Baptist is on Baby.
Speaker 1: It's on Baby now. You may well have noticed on
Speaker 1: Trump popped up today on the Gutfell program on Fox News.
Speaker 1: It is, of course the number one nighttime comedy show
Speaker 1: in the United States because all the rest of them
Speaker 1: are lefty and boring. Mister p how's your golf game? Well,
Speaker 1: I haven't been thinking about it too much. Later. I
Speaker 1: always said GoF is a very dangerous game.
Speaker 6: It really is, especially if they're playing with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's why that was a joke.
Speaker 6: Did you if there told you that the shooter was there,
Speaker 6: would you have tried to take him out with your three? Would?
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, if I knew. And while the
Speaker 1: latest national poll has shown that the race is tied,
Speaker 1: the New York Times poll now shows that Harris is
Speaker 1: up in the all important Pennsylvania. The Union movement when
Speaker 1: it asked its members who they should endorse, by a
Speaker 1: very large margin, the workers said Trump fifty eight percent
Speaker 1: to Harris's thirty one again Trump on Gutfeld.
Speaker 8: The thing just happened about ten minutes before I walked out.
Speaker 8: The Teamsters for many, many decades always automatically support the Democrats.
Speaker 8: This year they refused to do it, and they took
Speaker 8: a pole, and we got sixty percent in the poll
Speaker 8: in the Teamsters, and they're not they're not going to
Speaker 8: support the Demo forrat this year.
Speaker 1: They're going to, I guess remain neutral.
Speaker 8: But that was sort of a big event. Nobody's ever
Speaker 8: expected a thing like that.
Speaker 1: To happen now must feel quite odd for him to
Speaker 1: be surrounded by people who actually like him, who laugh
Speaker 1: at the jokes, who understand all of the rhetoric, because,
Speaker 1: of course, every other time he steps outside of those environs,
Speaker 1: we all know it's get Trump, Get Trump, Get Trump. Unlike,
Speaker 1: of course, Kamala Harris, who is asked very difficult questions
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 9: Why is joy important to you to insert into this election?
Speaker 9: And what do you make of Republicans using that as
Speaker 9: a way to suggest that you're not a serious candidate.
Speaker 10: Well, sometimes I think, and I'll say to whoever the
Speaker 10: young people are who are watching this, there are sometimes
Speaker 10: when your adversaries will try and turn your strength into
Speaker 10: a weakness. Don't you let them? Don't you let them?
Speaker 10: I find joy in the American people.
Speaker 1: Now. By the way, remember there was a story a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about how Iran had hacked the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign had got a whole bunch of inside information. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a little addendum to that story. They gave it
Speaker 1: to the Biden campaign, which presumably means the Harris campaign
Speaker 1: also has this information. Now, when that was Russia, that
Speaker 1: was a scandal, and it wasn't even what the Russians did.
Speaker 1: The Iranians hacked the Trump campaign. They gave the information
Speaker 1: to the Democrats directly. Forget Russia, Russia, Russia, Iran, Iran, Iran.
Speaker 1: But of course that's a conspiracy theory, wouldn't it be?
Speaker 1: Quick break back with more no sooks, no lefties tonight.
Speaker 1: We're just getting started and as you can tell, the
Speaker 1: boys fired up all right, enough for me. Let's get
Speaker 1: straight into it right now. So, mates in Melbourne, none
Speaker 1: other than the wonderful Michael Kroger. Next to him the
Speaker 1: equally delightful Christine Abram. Of course he's a liberal, she's
Speaker 1: a libertarian, and both are here right now. Michael, you've
Speaker 1: heard what I had to say. You heard the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister in this interview. I mean detailed matters, but also
Speaker 1: just a general awareness of things matters, and he failed.
Speaker 6: Mate. This is a very serious problem for elbow right.
Speaker 6: This has echoes of GoF Whitlam from the nineteen seventies
Speaker 6: when Whitlam was Prime Minister is in over between seventy
Speaker 6: two and seventy five. He became very obvious to people
Speaker 6: early in his prime ministership that he wasn't really interested
Speaker 6: in economics. Fast forward today, there is one overarching issue
Speaker 6: in Australia today, which is the crisis in cost of living.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows that that goes without saying. People can't pay mortgages,
Speaker 6: they can't pay rent, they can't buy their food right.
Speaker 6: People are really struggling. This bloke comes into these interviews
Speaker 6: today on Carvellos and then subsequent to that, he clearly
Speaker 6: doesn't understand what's happening in America. He doesn't understand the numbers.
Speaker 6: He's reinforcing in everybody's mind, I'm not really interested in
Speaker 6: the detail of economics. And that is an absolute killer
Speaker 6: for him electorally because people after the voice, you know,
Speaker 6: the voice gave everything the impression this guy is not
Speaker 6: really not really on cost of living his issue. He
Speaker 6: doesn't really focus on it, and today's interview just reinforces
Speaker 6: that in everyone's mind. Today was a shocking day for Elbow.
Speaker 6: He needs to spend some time in his office working
Speaker 6: on some numbers and talking about economics in a wage
Speaker 6: that's going to convince people that he's interested. Because today
Speaker 6: was a very bad day for Elbow. Everyone just thinks
Speaker 6: this guy is just not interested in and he doesn't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem is in Christian you get.
Speaker 11: I have to say, you and Paul probably are being
Speaker 11: really mean to it's alboonomics that we're looking at. And
Speaker 11: I want to give you a fun fact. Albo has
Speaker 11: been in Parliament since a year before I was born,
Speaker 11: So it's not his fault. He doesn't understand that he's
Speaker 11: not his fault, and you guys are being really really
Speaker 11: mean Rabe. Look, yeah, if we have anyone to blame here,
Speaker 11: it is the universe of Sydney. They gave him his
Speaker 11: bachelor degree in economics. He is not Albow's fault. And look,
Speaker 11: if Chalmers and Albo were CEO and CFO of a company,
Speaker 11: they would have been walked off the premises over twelve
Speaker 11: months ago.
Speaker 1: Yep, correct, yep, one hundred percent. And well people will
Speaker 1: have the chance to do it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: Now about Big Australia again, every time an opinion poll
Speaker 1: is asking this question, Australians pushback about immigration. Now, of
Speaker 1: course left he's automatically say, well, that's cause we're a
Speaker 1: bunch of racists. No, no, no, no, no, it's because
Speaker 1: if you've got a queue that's a mile long, you
Speaker 1: don't add more people to the queue as a way
Speaker 1: of shortening the queue. That's the point, right and again Christen,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, there was a story this week
Speaker 1: that should have resulted in the sacking of the Health Minister,
Speaker 1: but not even a single question to the Premier of
Speaker 1: Victoria because she's out and about wearing asari in India,
Speaker 1: which was that a bloke died in Victoria because he's neighborhood.
Speaker 1: A whole bunch of discomfort and screaming called for an
Speaker 1: ambulance at two o'clock in the morning. One didn't turn
Speaker 1: up until six o'clock in the morning. That's two hours
Speaker 1: after the bloke went silent and he was dead. That's
Speaker 1: why I talk about him.
Speaker 11: Question where is the consequences for the parliamentarians? I care
Speaker 11: more about power than they care about doing what's best
Speaker 11: for our country. I am flabbergaster that you know, over
Speaker 11: the last eighteen months we've brought in nearly a million
Speaker 11: people to this country and our natural progression, as you
Speaker 11: mentioned earlier, natural increase is only one hundred and five thousand,
Speaker 11: five hundred. You have to kind of ask yourself why
Speaker 11: are Australians not having two three full kids. And look,
Speaker 11: I'm nearly my thirties now and the child talk gets
Speaker 11: thrown around, and I can tell you right now that
Speaker 11: the question I ask myself is do I want to
Speaker 11: bring in a child into this world where the economy.
Speaker 1: Is like this.
Speaker 11: We're in a housing shortage at the moment.
Speaker 1: We have issues. Were one for you, one for the
Speaker 1: country for you? What for you, Paul?
Speaker 11: And one for the country, And maybe I've got one
Speaker 11: mysel There's no.
Speaker 1: Way this will be.
Speaker 6: We need another Murray. Yeah, we need more Murrays.
Speaker 11: Yeah we need more Paul Murray.
Speaker 1: Right, come on. But also, but also, Michael, what about
Speaker 1: that that number about Victoria as well, that in terms
Speaker 1: of the number of people come and go from the state,
Speaker 1: the growth in the come and go from the state
Speaker 1: was five hundred and thirty people.
Speaker 6: Mate, Look, the electorate are not mugs. It takes people
Speaker 6: the time to work things out, and we generally love
Speaker 6: being an immigration nation. But five hundred thousand a year
Speaker 6: for the last two years, in the middle of a
Speaker 6: housing crisis, the public have worked out these people have
Speaker 6: to live somewhere. We've got record numbers of builders going broke,
Speaker 6: record numbers of developers going the costs of housing have
Speaker 6: gone through the roof just to build anything these days, rules, regulations,
Speaker 6: land prices, state government taxes, et cetera, insurance, et cetera.
Speaker 6: I meant, where's Albo going to build all these Who's
Speaker 6: going to build all these houses for Elbow?
Speaker 1: Well not.
Speaker 6: In the Green elector no, well you can't have more
Speaker 6: building in these leafy Green election.
Speaker 1: Will be affected.
Speaker 6: Exactly. Butte the public have worked this out. A minion immigrants,
Speaker 6: you know, a cost of living crisis, a housing crisis,
Speaker 6: and record numbers of builders going broke. That's why the
Speaker 6: public think, hang on, maybe this has got something to
Speaker 6: do with rental costs going so much higher. They've worked
Speaker 6: this out, and they blame Melbourne easy and quite rightly.
Speaker 6: They blame him. And the guy.
Speaker 1: Doesn't get us.
Speaker 6: He doesn't get it, he doesn't understand. He just thinks, oh,
Speaker 6: I can talk about immigration. That'll please the left of
Speaker 6: the Labor Party. But the average blue collar person, the
Speaker 6: average young person, and of course the Greenians a right
Speaker 6: into this, blaming Elbow for the cost of living crisis
Speaker 6: and the housing crisis. But Albot's got himself to blame
Speaker 6: on this and so many other issues. Immigration is too
Speaker 6: high in the midst of a housing crisis, and every
Speaker 6: public memory punper out there has worked this out.
Speaker 1: Mate, Bloody Earth, they have quick breakback with more. I
Speaker 1: want to raise two very specific questions, not to stump
Speaker 1: but because it's their area of expertise. More from our
Speaker 1: mates in Melbourne in a moment here on Paul Murray
Speaker 1: Live as well as Winner and Loser all the week.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. I love these too from Melbourne equally
Speaker 1: and forever. None other than Christin Abram, of course, who
Speaker 1: is a Libertarian and the liberal that we've seen for
Speaker 1: a very long time we love him too, is other
Speaker 1: than Michael Kroger. I've got a question for both of
Speaker 1: you that is going to be to areas of expertise.
Speaker 1: So the Libertarians is very well local government elections, in
Speaker 1: part because of the failure in and around the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: But Kristin, you've run yourself as a candidate and now
Speaker 1: the Nusipist Party. You're saying the run everywhere every time,
Speaker 1: and that's good news because you don't start with a
Speaker 1: Senate campaign. You start at the lowest possible level to
Speaker 1: create a movement. What did you think of what happened
Speaker 1: in New South Wales last weekend and what may happen
Speaker 1: in Victoria in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 11: Look, I'm completely stoked with what's happened in New South
Speaker 11: Wales with my New South Wales counterpart, Michael, I do
Speaker 11: have to say a very big thank you to you
Speaker 11: for your friends over the murray creating a local vacuum
Speaker 11: for us. I do appreciate it, thank you so much.
Speaker 11: We are confident that we will definitely secure ten and
Speaker 11: there's still seven in play in New South Wales. So look,
Speaker 11: Victoria is a very different system to how New South
Speaker 11: Wales work. It is a more favorable system for minor
Speaker 11: parties and smaller parties to get elected in New South
Speaker 11: Wales and we have here in Victoria. But we do
Speaker 11: have over twenty candidates running here in Victoria, and we
Speaker 11: are confident we will return Paul Barker and Olga to
Speaker 11: their councils and getting Tim Quilty elected to council as well,
Speaker 11: which he is previously are state member of Parliament and
Speaker 11: he was a previous counselor too. So the future is
Speaker 11: great and the future is libertarian, and Michael A can't
Speaker 11: thank you.
Speaker 1: All right. The Libertarian page. Go and find it in
Speaker 1: Victoria to find out your local Canada. John Roscombe, the
Speaker 1: Great John Roscombe wrote very well in the Financial Review
Speaker 1: today talking about how CEOs need to spend more less
Speaker 1: time on being liked, more time frankly being effective. Because
Speaker 1: I saw what you had to say earlier in the
Speaker 1: week and I agree with you completely about the Business
Speaker 1: Council of Australia. Remember these were the people who were lending,
Speaker 1: you know, who were hopping onto the Prime Minister's jet
Speaker 1: when you first became the Prime minister. They were there
Speaker 1: agreeing with the forty three percent a mission staff, all
Speaker 1: of that. That's where that's where it started. Well, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: what we all knew to be true is now what
Speaker 1: they are turning around and saying. And good on them
Speaker 1: for saying stuff, but it's not about saying something. You've
Speaker 1: got to actually do something. Mate.
Speaker 6: John Roscombe of course is right as he always has
Speaker 6: been and has been for twenty or thirty years on
Speaker 6: these issues. It's a great pity buy away the Liberal
Speaker 6: Party here. We could never find a seat from in
Speaker 6: Parliament because people of his courage and intellect are extremely
Speaker 6: rare in politics. Of course, Roscomb's right. The central problem
Speaker 6: is that too many chairmen, board members, and chief executives
Speaker 6: their main thing is to avoid controversy. It's not to
Speaker 6: take great risk because they don't want to put it
Speaker 6: at risk their next board position, or the next chairman's position,
Speaker 6: or the next CEO position. So a lot of those
Speaker 6: people that no shares in the companies, they meander along,
Speaker 6: They go from one nondescript position to another. They fall
Speaker 6: into supporting the Voice for goodness sake, where sixty percent
Speaker 6: of their shareholders would have said no to that. I'm
Speaker 6: afraid too many corporate leaders are punch drunk. They don't
Speaker 6: know how little they listened to and the damage that
Speaker 6: their corporate affairs departments did, which are run by a
Speaker 6: lot of white people, who get the board to agree
Speaker 6: to all of these things, and the board goes along
Speaker 6: with it because it's the least line of resistance. They're
Speaker 6: just not taken seriously. They don't have a lot of
Speaker 6: influence anymore. It's not like the business businesses were, you know,
Speaker 6: thirty years ago, when when dollar suits and mudgory and
Speaker 6: the great the Great Industrial campaigns were being run by
Speaker 6: people like Ian McLaughlin from the National Well, there was
Speaker 6: a leader Ian McLoughlin from the National Farmer Federation, and
Speaker 6: Andrew rob and Paul all Hand and the late Great
Speaker 6: Andrew Hay and the late Great Peter Boyle. These employer
Speaker 6: leaders had muscle and they had courage and guts and
Speaker 6: they took on issues. The business leaders today, as I said,
Speaker 6: you know dinners and cocktail parties, that's the lacking and
Speaker 6: avoiding controversy, that's their Troyka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, certainly you want an example of business that
Speaker 1: is fighting up and putting pushing back. Right now, they
Speaker 1: keep the Sheep campaign in Western Australia where they know
Speaker 1: government are not going to listen to them, but they
Speaker 1: have found their seats and they're going to push as
Speaker 1: hard as they can, as they should because the government
Speaker 1: is making horrific decisions against their businesses. All right, Kristen,
Speaker 1: tell me about a win all or loser of the week.
Speaker 11: Win or, without a doubt, would have to be the
Speaker 11: Libertarian Party for how well we're doing in New South Wales.
Speaker 11: Loser of the week. I'm not going to say Michael
Speaker 11: Kroger and his team. I'm not going to say that,
Speaker 11: but it would definitely have to be Albo and his
Speaker 11: interview that he had with the ABC that was shocking.
Speaker 1: Michael, I think I've got an idea.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, go after mate. Well well no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: I've got to say well Doneder, John Raddick and the
Speaker 6: Libertarians in New South Wales and yes, of course it's
Speaker 6: supporting my friends and colleagues up there. Didn't go out
Speaker 6: of nominating people, so but that'll change the next time around, hopefully.
Speaker 6: The winner of the week the Israeli government obviously have
Speaker 6: gone after three thousand terrorists with devastating effect. The loser
Speaker 6: of the week is Christopher Luxon, the New Zealand Conservative
Speaker 6: Prime Minister, who disgraced himself, the New Zealand National Party
Speaker 6: and New Zealand by voting for a resolution in the
Speaker 6: United Nations yesterday which was, if not pro hamas was
Speaker 6: the closest thing to it, a disgraceful resolution, appalling that
Speaker 6: we abstained. But for Christopher Luxen and the Conservatives to
Speaker 6: vote for the motion, shame on you, my friend, Shame
Speaker 6: on you.
Speaker 1: Agree completely, they get many things right there, but they
Speaker 1: certainly got that one wrong. Thank you, guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We will see you all again next week. All right,
Speaker 1: that's our show for tonight and for the week. Is
Speaker 1: always a reminder, of course, we're going to be in
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