WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 26 September 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:05.040 Late Welcome to the Late Base. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:08.600 Well, thanks to your company. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.840 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.319 Caleb Bond, who you just watched on the Paul Murray 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.760 Live program, The Brilliant, our great mate, Joe Hilda Brand. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.400 I don't know who's who anymore, Caleb Bond. Then Paul 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.919 Murray's there, and then I'm here and Caleb's there, and 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.920 you're there, and I feel like Dorothy when she wakes 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.720 up from. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.600 The dream and a Wizard of Oscess. And you were there, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.360 and you were there, and you were there, and you 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:30.760 were there. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.280 It's going to be fine. We're glad you were. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.440 With a stick around coming up, Coca Cola ban the 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.920 names Jesus and Trump from personalized cans will show you 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.160 that a little later. Plus, when we look at the papers, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.200 Treasurer Jim Chalmers arrives in China as the Chinese fire 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.960 missiles over the Pacific Ocean, and in news that will 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.200 excite pigeons everywhere, former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews to get 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.680 a bronze statue. All of that when we look at 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.160 the papers a little later. But first everyone's feeling the 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.040 cost of living pressures, and nowhere more so than at 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.760 your local supermarket, where a trolley of groceries will pretty 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.760 much require a second mortgage these days. But in a 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.360 report from consumer group Choice, they've shown that if you 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.920 get your groceries from Eld, you can save around fifteen 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:22.160 dollars on a basket of just fourteen essential items. A 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.240 basket of fruit, milk, cheese and bread will set you 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.920 back fifty dollars at Eld, but check out this, It'll 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.600 be sixty six dollars at Coal, sixty eight dollars at Woolies, 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.759 and seventy eight at IgA for the exact same items. Now, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.960 I say all of that to ask this question, if 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.880 you can save that much money shopping at Eld, why 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.600 don't more people like these? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.320 For instance, what's your tipmarket. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.400 Puts Audi because they have the cheapest. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.559 Really, we used to shop Cole's Woolers all the time, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.000 and then we've switched to Aldi just to get better value. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.560 Way too expensive. I shop at Aldi because you can 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:01.440 save by my umbrella? 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.240 Is Aldi always your grocer of choice? It is? 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:05.160 It is? 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.040 Yeah, definitely, it's way cheaper. I've compared prices Nladi's always 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.200 comes out on top. So it's yeah, definitely the ones 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.400 to go. You can't get everything there, but so you 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.079 have to go to Coles and Woolies. But yeah, Aldi's 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.000 the one for me. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.280 Okay, now I don't know what Liz and Joe do, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.440 but let me tell you. I refuse to shop at 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.480 Eldie because I don't want to buy my groceries from 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.560 what effectively seems very much like a garage sale. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.639 I mean literally, you can buy a piece. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.200 Of salamo after the special buy, so you. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.400 Can buy a piece of salami and a dick chair 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.400 and they're right beside each other. I tell you true story. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.440 My sister Rachel, she sent her husband Josh off to 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.480 Eldie to get some ingredients for dinner. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.400 And he came back with a trumpet. And I'm not 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.639 making that. So I just Eldie does my head in. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:53.160 I can't. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.160 I can't figure it out. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.919 They have a bigger range. I mean that is perfectly normal. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:58.600 In the States. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.720 By the way, they're supermarkets are also kind of like 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.800 half supermarket half km art, so it's perfectly normal. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:06.760 I can't deal with that. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.560 No, it's perfectly deal with that. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.600 Well. Obviously a lot of Australians can as per those boxes. Also, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.639 this is the one supermarket out of the duopoly anyway, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.480 outside of the duopoly rather that isn't being investigated by 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.320 the A Triple C for ripping you. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:29.079 I'm okay with that, right spot of. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.600 These massive companies that are deliberately ripping you off to 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.240 your face and you're like, I don't mind take my money. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.120 Another reason to shop at Aldi is that they're not 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:45.080 owned like Coles and Woolworths are by black Rock, Vanguard 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.880 and State Street. If you know, you know, those are 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:52.120 the three biggest shareholders state Street of Coals, black Rock 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:53.480 and Vanguard of Woolies. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:54.800 I take every. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.880 Opportunity not to give those flogs my money. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.560 What do you to? I love a bit of Aldie. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.760 I got suck it into the fly by scheme though, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.080 and I literally dropped more than six hundred dollars at 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.880 Coals just the for you to get at home, and 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.960 then my wife yell at me for forgetting something and 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.520 had to go back to another Coals and spend another 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.760 forty bucks. Admittedly all the children six hundreds had well 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.240 the children. The children are all wearing basically Hessian sacks 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.960 for clothes, and we had to get home. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.200 This is where Aldie. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.440 I do love Aldi, and I bought your laugh at 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.719 the trumpet. I bought two guitars, three guitar stands, the leads, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.880 everything for so no, this is the thing because you 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.680 walk in there for the salami and then go, oh 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.600 my god, I just realized I need a deck chair. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:42.839 It's like I did it before it. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.160 And it's a really well price. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.360 And it's a really well priced, high quality deck chair 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.320 and it was fantastic. I'm and Coles have now started 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.119 introducing the special buyers as well own special buyers section, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.240 and I actually I actually bought an outdoor fire. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:57.719 Pit from. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.040 But I just their target mark. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.359 I've been on the way home for some milk, so 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.200 I have an absolute I have an absolute suckle. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:09.440 I think we had some vision there of some of 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:10.680 the random stuff you can get. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.200 That's the whole purpose, right. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.320 You don't go to Aldi to buy a trumpet or 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.320 a deck chair. You go there to get your groceries, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.080 and just like someone walking out and they know what 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.920 they're doing, putting all the chocolate bars and the chewing 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.760 gum and the breath mints right there at the checkout, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.839 So people go, oh yeah, actually, oh, grab a few 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.200 of those. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.240 On my way out. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.480 People see the special buys and realize, look at all 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.000 the stuff I don't need but want, and walk out 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.080 with half of that as well. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.640 It's a genius marketing. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:42.839 In fact, it's. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.360 Even more ingenious than you think, because while some people 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.120 might just go in there and say, oh my god, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.719 what's this doing here, if you get the Aldi catalog, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.480 it will tell you in advance what the special buys 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.600 are going to be on any given date, and you 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.839 will have a week's note so you can get in first, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.680 and you will have people like they have had. They 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.760 had dice and vacuum cleaners for a while, and it 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.599 was like it was like going over the top in 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.000 the Battle of the Song. There were people just at 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.640 the gates, at the doors, just heaving, and as soon 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.000 as they open they just I mean shoppers that shop 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.279 with tactical military proceisure. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.039 You to have totally convinced me tomorrow I'm going to 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.359 go to Eldie get some milk, some cheese, some yogurt 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:24.279 and a bass drum. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.080 Well, well, thank us. In fact, you can give us 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.480 the difference. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.200 In our long range. They'll do it headstreamer. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.520 They always seem to have those for some reason. Let's 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:33.360 see the dairy isle. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:34.400 Let's move on. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.520 The habit of indigenous activists objecting to everything because of 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.800 its links with colonialism has come back to bite them 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.240 and bite them hard. Back in twenty twenty two, the 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.839 New South Wales Coalition committed to giving the New South 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:53.039 Wales or Sydney Rather Museum to Indigenous folk and make 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.840 it an Indigenous hub. But today Labour's Arts Minister John 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.520 Graham has announced they've scraped that plan because the museum 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.240 has been built over the top of the ruins of 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.680 Arthur Phillips's old cottage and therefore it would be an 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.920 inappropriate place for an indigenous hub. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.600 Well, I was so sure you were going to say 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:14.560 Indian graveyard. 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.400 Well that would have been inappropriate too, But indigenous activists 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.239 are very upset about that, saying no, no, no, the links 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:28.920 between the museum and colonial past are suddenly unimportant. Black rogers, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.960 who's a indigenous artist. He said, it's somewhat hypocritical for 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.560 the government not to consider it when Aboriginal people have 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.120 raised concerns about other sites and the colonial Captain Cook 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.200 statue in Hyde Park, and the government hasn't done anything 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.800 about that. So they're saying it's just an excuse by 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.800 this labor government who don't want to follow through with 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.920 this commitment to make the museum an indigenous hub. But 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.600 the government is saying no, no, it would be inappropriate. It's 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.680 got colonials links will have to find another venue. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:58.200 Who's right. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.480 I mean this has got to be a because for once, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:09.400 a site of historical significance colonial significance is saved by 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.200 its colonial significance. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.360 I mean, we've got all these moves to take down 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.440 this statue of Captain Cook and replace it. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.600 With something indigenous. For once, it's like, no, no, because 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.400 it was Arthur Phillips's home base. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.560 We're not going to go through with this anymore. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.040 I just can't believe that it was a coalition government 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.320 who agreed. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 To do this because by virtue. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:37.280 Of being Arthur Phillips's former home now Sydney's museum. It's 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.400 a Sydney of one of the it's a museum of 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.560 one of the greatest cities in the world, certainly the 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.000 greatest city in our fair nation. Come on, even if 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.720 you don't agree with that, you've got to admit we're 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.760 the most beautiful. I mean, why wouldn't you want the 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.960 City of Sydney Museum to remain as is and just 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:01.360 promise a different indigenous hub that is indeed actually dedicated 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.280 to being an Indigenous habit rather than ripping one to 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.040 give the other one. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.440 That is exactly what the Min's Labor government is doing. Liz, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.560 thank you for your support, but yeah, it is. It 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.200 is really weird. I think there is something in what 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.600 you said about people I know are now so anxious 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:23.840 and are anticipating every possible sort of angle of outrage 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.080 coming at them that they're sort of preemptively killing off 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.800 things that the Indigenous Committey would actually want because I 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.880 think I know that someone's going to get upset by this. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.280 I think it would have been probably a nice bit 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.560 of kind of I don't know, not harmer or pobetic justice, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.040 but a nice bit of sort of closure. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.800 That's a horrible word to say, All right, we are 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.560 going to you know, we are going to have this. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.440 Place, which is, you know, ultimately the intersection of these 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.200 two worlds when they first collided in seven and eighty 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.920 eight and lived in harmony for quite some time thereafter. Incidentally, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.600 but you know, and we're going to have that there. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.720 I think you could just as easily make an argument, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.319 well why not preserve, you know, I preserve the Museum 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.840 of Sydney as this sort of you know, there is 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.120 some Indigenous stuff there, but as this kind of you know, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.720 exhibition of the very earliest sort of colonial settlement, and 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.600 have the indigenous stuff somewhere else that's purpose built. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.560 But again, isn't the real I mean even when like I. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.800 Said, oh, you know, it's ironic given that we've raised 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.000 concerns about other sites than the colonial Captain Cook statue 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.480 in Hyde Park and the government hasn't done anything about that. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.680 I think it shows how confused and and sort of 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.840 foggy this issue against But yes, we're not talking about 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.880 like do the Aboriginal people want their hub to be 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.199 in Hyde Park where the statue is? 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.000 Do they want that or they want to come down. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:43.120 One particular activity polish replacement, which is which is thankfully 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:44.000 what MINS. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.720 Has said no to here. 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:45.760 And that's the difference. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.840 It's because they're getting something, so they don't mind the 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.080 colonial links, whereas if it was just a colonial monument 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:53.640 then they would. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.000 I don't think there's anything there's any suggestion that, you know, 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.760 the remains of Arthur Phillips Cottage should be demolished in 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.680 the same way that they would want the cap Cook Statue, 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.040 presumably torn down as people have tried to tear it down. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.000 So there just seems to be all this energy in 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.199 all these weird, kind of specific and not entirely coherent 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.839 claims instead of just getting stuff done. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.320 It'd be hilarious if that's right. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.160 That anyway, Well, Kamala Harris has fight. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.000 We've been talking endlessly about the fact that this woman 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.559 needs to do more interviews. We want answers. You're running 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.760 for the most important job in the world. Can we 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.200 please get some straight answers. So she finally sat down 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:37.520 with MSNBC's host Stephanie Ruler, and you would not believe 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:43.880 the softball questions. Here's one about Kamala's time at macus. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.120 Your opponent almost every day seems to be talking about this. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:50.680 So I just want to ask you yes or no? 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:51.719 At any point in. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.959 Your life have you served to all beef patties, special 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.000 cells and Leni's cheese Take those onions on. Looking at 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.760 Adam MacDonald's yes or no, that's it. I have okay, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.480 now the other job, but it was not a small 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.000 job like I do, Rie. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.160 I mean, you know, oh incredible. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.200 That's one that she could answer really confidently. Not so 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.120 much when Stephanie asked Kamala about so, with all these 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.720 taxes that you intend to raise in order to fund 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.840 all the things that you're going to pony for everyone, 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.959 a pony for everyone's pony, what if you can't raise 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.760 the taxes, What if you don't have the support in 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.080 both the houses that you need in order to pull 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.200 this off. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.920 Kamala should have just said I don't know. Instead, she 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:43.640 said this. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.439 You mentioned housing before giving that extra money for a 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.840 first home. If you can't raise corporate taxes, or if 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.600 GOP takes control of the Senate, where do you get 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.600 the money to do that? Do you still go forward 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:56.800 those plans and borrow? 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.320 Well, but we're going to have to read corporate taxes 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.240 and we're gonna have to raise We're going to have 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:10.120 to make sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:10.760 their fresh share. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.640 That's just it, lady. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.400 If all the polls are correct, you're looking at a 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.080 pretty divided government. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.520 Even if you do make it to the White House. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.400 The question is what are you going to do if 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.520 you don't have the support to raise said taxes. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.400 Oh, we're just going to have to do it, though, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.720 We're just going to have to do it. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:33.160 Look at her face. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.600 Yeah, that was just terrible, terrified. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.920 It's like that was like, Oh my god, that's never 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:39.960 occurred to me before. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.800 What do you mean you mean? So it's always like 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:42.079 she was. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.280 And then when she's saying, but we're just going to 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.720 have to do it, it almost gives her time to 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.920 remember her pre programmed lines because then she gets onto 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.320 everyone's got to pay their fair share, and her face 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.400 brightens up because now she's back on familiar territory and 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.600 she just share a nauseum for about the next sixty seconds, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.120 hoping that the next question will yeah, which. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.160 Makes absolutely no sense now. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.920 Prior to doing this interview with Kamala, Rula had been 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:13.400 very much defending her a week prior, saying, even if 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:17.400 Kamala wouldn't budge in saying that Hamas should still have 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.040 a role in the leadership in Gaza going forward. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.680 You're not going to vote for Trump, are you? 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.000 It's not too much to ask Kamala say, are you 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.800 for a Palestinian state if Hamas is going to run that. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.440 State, Okay, yes or no? 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.960 And let's say you don't like her answer, Are you 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.800 going to vote for Donald Trump? 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:38.480 No, I'm not. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.080 I'm not going to vote. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.440 Not running for perfect, She's running against Trump. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.160 We have two choices. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.920 Incredible, even if she says that a terrorist group should 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.080 still rule and reign in Gaza. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.560 I mean, you're not going to vote for Trump? 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.680 Are you call off the election? No one's going to 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.040 vote for Trump. So why even have an election? 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:01.360 Why? 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.280 Why did I have an interview? 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:10.480 And asked, But after this absolute bomb of an interview, 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.960 even Stephanie Ruler changed her tune, saying, yet Kamala couldn't 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.200 even answer how she was going to do these tax 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.320 raisers if she didn't have the support of the houses. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.280 She doesn't answer the question around if the GOP is 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.000 controlling the Senate, if she can't raise corporate taxes, where 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.040 is she going to get the money from, you know, 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.320 to expand the child's tax credit and do all the 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.280 things she wants to do, And she says, we. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.480 Just have to do it. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.840 Changed her tune real fast, didn't she so? Prior to 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.280 the interview, she's just saying look, no matter what she says, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.520 basically including terrorists to still having control of that land, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.760 that's fine, anything but a vote for Trump. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.000 After the interview, she's like she. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.200 Couldn't even answer this basic question and admits it to 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.000 the nation live on MSNBC. It's another one of those 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:09.760 examples where these networks that endlessly shill for daily tongue 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.400 bats for the Democrats actually end up with egg all 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.600 over their face because they realize the person that we're 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.360 trying to champion is not popular or intelligence. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.280 It's an absolutely amazing confession, isn't it by a major 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.720 American media network that we're going to interview the presidential candidate, 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.000 we actually don't care what she says because everyone should 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.200 vote for her regardless. I mean, which makes a question, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.160 why would you watch MSNBC's interview with anybody because it's 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.360 a predetermined outcome. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:46.720 But also, I mean, how many swinging voters or undecided 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.040 voters are actually watching MSNBC, Like, I don't understand how 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.400 krmala Harry. I mean, I think she goes there, she 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.440 does the softball interview, and then that gets cut up 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.440 and sent out to all the other media, and that's 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.560 how you hopefully reach. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:16:59.560 Them through secondary sources. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.360 I still, again, given that it seems to have blown 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.280 up in this case, I still don't understand the strategy. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.320 I mean, obviously she can't she can't do any media. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.520 The answer basic incredibly friendly. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.240 Like you can't do anyone more full on than Oprah, 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.520 And even Oprah is calling her. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.040 Out for not answering the questions. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.240 And then you've got you've got Stephanie Rule calling her out, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.760 and I wonder if sort of in both like it's 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.080 almost like they're trying to sort of coach her. In 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.600 real life, it's like they're trying. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.520 The other thing is their own credibility as interviewers, whether 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.480 Oprah or Stephanie's, is called into question because people watch the. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.879 Interview and think, why didn't you ask a follow up question? 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.000 Why do you want to push harder? 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.080 I reckon, but now we know it was bias in 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.520 the first place. But then they get defensive over that bias. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.480 But I also think that that is why this particular 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.679 host felt that it didn't matter if Karla didn't answer 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.240 someone else's question, but when it was her question she 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.240 wasn't answering, she had to call it out as a 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.840 fearless and fearless and impartial journal. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.240 When she calls it out after the event, around. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.520 The interview, that's right, because when you can't not acknowledge 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.040 it to look really stupid here and I point out 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.040 that she is in fact, so when it's so again, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.359 these people are so so selfless that they will go 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.439 to the wall to defend America from Donald Trump and 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.560 make sure he never gets in and pump up the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.560 tires of his opponent. But when it comes to their 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:21.440 own ego or their own professional reputation, suddenly they feel 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.159 they have to actually say call her out all of 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.240 a sudden. So we know now the threshold for calling 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.760 out Carmla Harrison An seeing the question is purely the 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:34.080 ego of the Democrat adjacent journalist who's asking her. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.919 May there be a lot more of it because, like 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.200 you say, no swing voters are watching MSNBC, but hopefully 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.439 a few Kamala voters are watching and going had a minute. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.800 I do not want this woman to be commander in chief. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.320 Staying in the US now where New York Mayor Eric 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:56.320 Adams has been indicted by the FEDS, this is absolutely 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:02.440 unprecedented for a New Your mayor. This indictment is sealed, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.880 so we actually don't know the chargers, and we do 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:11.480 know that during his tenure, most recently, the Adams administration 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.199 has been reeling from a series of high level resignations 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.280 amid at least four federal probes, and there's a lot 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:25.320 of speculation about what that entails. Adams has now taken 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.360 to social media after sending a video of himself addressing 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.240 these charges, which are yet unknown to the New York 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.720 Daily News court reporter who has made this available for us. 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.600 He is making it about his strong stance on immigration. 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.400