WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 5 December

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<v Speaker 1>Late Welcome to the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to the Late Debate. I'm Lizsara, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me tonight are twoman who really need no introduction,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll do one anyway, mister kel Richards.

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<v Speaker 2>And Joe Hilda Brand.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad, thank you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very reassuring.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up tonight in the papers, both Victoria and New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales are insisting they are going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>big deciding state at next year's federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll walk you through the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>And try and figure out who's telling the truth. Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Mayor Tom Tait has been called an Australian for

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<v Speaker 1>simply telling a counsel that to sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty Australian and Labor's self inflicted tas mayan salmon saga

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<v Speaker 1>continues as they desperately try.

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<v Speaker 2>To save face.

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<v Speaker 1>But first tonight to Queensland, where the Health Department is

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<v Speaker 1>in a heck of a lot of trouble as it's

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<v Speaker 1>been discovered that their budget has blown out by six

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<v Speaker 1>point four billion dollars. That's a lot of shaggy ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen people have pointed out, that's enough to build

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<v Speaker 1>a second cross river rail.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this happened after.

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<v Speaker 1>Well a lot of things contributed to this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered that crucial services like birthing suites and mortuaries

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<v Speaker 1>were left off the blue plants for new infrastructure, which begs.

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<v Speaker 2>The question, who the heck is doing up these plans.

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<v Speaker 1>Babies are born every day, people die every day. These

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<v Speaker 1>are essential services and you managed to leave them off.

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<v Speaker 2>A perfect example of a project.

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<v Speaker 1>That nearly doubled, actually over doubled in size in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of its cost, without the assistance of any extra add

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<v Speaker 1>ons is the Hervey Bay Hospital. It was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>cost forty million dollars. It ended up costing ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does the government do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got air all over its face.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they handle this pr disaster?

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<v Speaker 1>They spend one point two million dollars calling in a

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<v Speaker 1>contractor consultant to help them out.

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<v Speaker 2>To try and convey what's happened to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>We read in the Courier Mail the battled Infrastructure division

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<v Speaker 1>of Queensland Health spent one point two million dollars calling

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<v Speaker 1>in consultants to write a public relations strategy for its

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<v Speaker 1>severely blown out construction pipeline health infrastructure. Queensland, which has

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<v Speaker 1>control of more than fourteen billion dollar pipeline projects, then

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<v Speaker 1>move to start its own breakaway unit of media spinners

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<v Speaker 1>with tasks that included effectively identifying and minimizing emergent media risks.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only now do we have the consultants who

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<v Speaker 1>have already snaffled up one point two million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>fix this pr crisis, now we've got Queensland Health itself

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<v Speaker 1>saying well we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Have our own in house spin doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, Hell Joe like, we don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>these people enough to do their jobs and provide services

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<v Speaker 1>as essential as health, then we have to fork out

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<v Speaker 1>covering up.

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<v Speaker 2>They're absolute ineptity.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't fix the debt, you just change the way

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<v Speaker 4>people think about it. It seems to me if this

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<v Speaker 4>happened in a household, if we'd overspent our money, then

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<v Speaker 4>we try to save money. We look at where we

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<v Speaker 4>could save money. But if the really important thing is

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<v Speaker 4>what people think, then what you do is when the

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<v Speaker 4>bowlers come and carry out the sofa in the dining

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<v Speaker 4>room table, you just sit all the neighbors know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going Swedish minimalist. You see, that's what they're doing. They

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<v Speaker 4>just try to control what people think. Not actually they

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<v Speaker 4>over the big budget is fourteen billion dollars. They have

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<v Speaker 4>overspent by six billion dollars and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>save any money. They just want to change what you

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<v Speaker 4>think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't want to save money, they just

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<v Speaker 1>want to save face.

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<v Speaker 2>So what amazing?

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<v Speaker 5>So this is the Melissa Cadox school of politics. This

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<v Speaker 5>is instead of actually just earning money honestly and paying

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<v Speaker 5>off all your debts, you just rack up as much

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<v Speaker 5>as you possibly can, and then when someone comes a calling.

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<v Speaker 5>So oh, I just think I might pop out for

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<v Speaker 5>a quick morning jogs. See your ladder, everybody, and next

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<v Speaker 5>thing you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you're foot foot out on the beach.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I think you guys as usual, you're just being

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<v Speaker 5>terribly unfair, terribly unfair. The man by the government, man

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<v Speaker 5>Steven Miles, well like that. I just I can't tell

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<v Speaker 5>you how much I love the Queensland Side less Left.

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<v Speaker 5>But look, this is yet again another example of shining

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<v Speaker 5>bureaucratic efficiency because by simply wishing away a six point

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<v Speaker 5>four billion dollar cost blowout with a one point two

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<v Speaker 5>million dollar media unit. They have actually produced the same

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<v Speaker 5>result for let me just check my notes. One six

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<v Speaker 5>thousands of the price not an amazing return on investment.

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<v Speaker 2>They should have hired you.

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<v Speaker 5>I can actually I'm such a good spin doctor. I

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<v Speaker 5>can actually spin the spin. So when the spin doctors

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<v Speaker 5>get caught out, I'm the one they turn.

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<v Speaker 2>To, right, even to help out the spin doctors. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Health Minister Tom Nichols has asked the department to please

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<v Speaker 1>justify this expenditure, and the new Treasurer, David Janetski has

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<v Speaker 1>vowed to cut back on the state relying on such

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<v Speaker 1>contractors and consultants. He's vowed to back to the tune

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<v Speaker 1>of six point eight billion dollars over the next four years.

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<v Speaker 1>So these guys are in for a rude awakening, Kell,

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<v Speaker 1>because if this is what the LMP government of the

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<v Speaker 1>next four years is going to look like, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to say a lot of government contractors are feeling pretty nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>right Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I would think the first thing you do when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the budget where the money is going, you

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<v Speaker 4>discover most of it is going on salaries. So what

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<v Speaker 4>do you do with all the bureaucrats who've wasted all

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<v Speaker 4>the money. You start sacking a few. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel very sorry for the christ of Fula government. They've

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<v Speaker 4>inherited a terrible mess. It is a real, real disaster

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<v Speaker 4>because not only did labor mismanage, and I do say

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<v Speaker 4>the labor left out of different staff Joe, there.

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<v Speaker 5>Was a labor rights fault that we lost Queensland to

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<v Speaker 5>the labor left.

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<v Speaker 4>But still yes, anyway, so in deference to Joe, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>admit it was the labor left. But they did a

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<v Speaker 4>really bad job of managing the budget, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>saw a looming election and they decided the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>to do was to spend, spend, spend promises that the

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<v Speaker 4>man Chris has inherited all of this. They've had.

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<v Speaker 5>Fundations at one point, wasn't it going to be state

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<v Speaker 5>run servey?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, But they've increased the public service by tens of thousands.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're going to have to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>public servants who go for Chris Afooley to achieve this.

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<v Speaker 1>And whenever they talk about that, everyone invokes the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Camble Newman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Camball Newman did, and look what we did

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've won all our well paid government jobs, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they're parting with.

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<v Speaker 5>Them, speak of all those poor bureaucrats working twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>hours a day just helping people fill up their cars

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<v Speaker 5>with fuel.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're working, they're way from home, so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the eat of the tax.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be worse if they were in America, because

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States there's every risk that if you're

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<v Speaker 4>a senior public servant and you've served the Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 4>government really well, you may be charged with serious crimes

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<v Speaker 4>fairly soon or at least what That's what they're starting

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about in America. We know that Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 4>has been given by his father this unconditional pardon going

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<v Speaker 4>back to twenty fourteen and covering absolutely everything he did

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<v Speaker 4>has been charged with, found guilty of, or might have

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<v Speaker 4>done that hasn't been discovered yet. Well, now, the suggestion

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<v Speaker 4>is that there should be preemptive pardons issued for people

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<v Speaker 4>who haven't been charged with anything yet and claiming they

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<v Speaker 4>haven't committed any crimes. Great, they should be issued even

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<v Speaker 4>before that comes in order to protect them. Let's go

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<v Speaker 4>to MSNBC part of the looney Left in America and

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<v Speaker 4>see what they have to say about the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>preemptive pardons.

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<v Speaker 6>I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons

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<v Speaker 6>to all of those people threatened by the unjustice of

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<v Speaker 6>what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 6>That of course includes Jack Smith and all of his staff,

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<v Speaker 6>many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself.

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<v Speaker 6>Although we don't know that anyone can legally pardon themselves,

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<v Speaker 6>he will need a pardon because he is going to

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<v Speaker 6>be harassed and charged for no crimes whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has promised that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you think it's only just some linear MSNBC

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter. But we're told in the White House

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<v Speaker 4>already senior aids to the Biden administration are discussing this

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<v Speaker 4>amongst themselves. Should there be pre emptive partns and who

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<v Speaker 4>should get the fault He should get a preemptive partner

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<v Speaker 4>or Jack Smith, he might give him a preemptive pardon. Now, basically,

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<v Speaker 4>what they're doing is reinforcing what President Biden has already said.

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<v Speaker 4>He has said his own DOJ Department of Justice is rigged.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how Hunter got charged with things. It was only

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<v Speaker 4>because the system's rigged. No, I think someone named Trump

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<v Speaker 4>has been saying for a long time now. So since

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<v Speaker 4>the system is rigged, therefore we have to give preemptive

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<v Speaker 4>pardons to people who haven't actually done anything and are

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<v Speaker 4>not guilty of anything. It's a wonderful idea, isn't It's.

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<v Speaker 5>A brilliant I can't believe we've been going around like

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<v Speaker 5>chumps this old time, just pardoning people for crimes they've

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<v Speaker 5>actually committed.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to get in there. I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 5>Every husband in the world go, oh, this is fantastic, honey.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to apologize for whatever it is you may

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<v Speaker 5>find out that I've done over the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm terribly, terribly sorry. But look, here's my pardon.

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<v Speaker 4>Turning up with flowers for your wife, didn't She says,

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<v Speaker 4>what have you done? And you say nothing? Now but

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<v Speaker 4>next Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure that's right, that's right? But this, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Firstly, the howlkel, I'm sure you would have picked up

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<v Speaker 5>on it. MSNBC has labeled it the Department of Unjustice in.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice not injus.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, that's a crappy enough pun as it is

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<v Speaker 5>it's like is your news limited? That was Guy rund

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<v Speaker 5>Along Q and a by the way, hi guy, how

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<v Speaker 5>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>How's a new career going? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 5>But the but the idea that you would actually think that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>the Department of Justice, which we are saying is and

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<v Speaker 5>correct me if I've got the lodge wrong here. The

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<v Speaker 5>Department of Justice, which we say is so precious and

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<v Speaker 5>pure that we cannot risk it being corrupted by Donald Trump. However,

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<v Speaker 5>is also corrupted enough in its current form to not

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<v Speaker 5>be able to guarantee a fair prosecution and trial of

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<v Speaker 5>Hunter Biden, which is why I therefore have to pardon him.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also have to pardon all the other people

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<v Speaker 5>in the future who the Department of Justice, which is

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<v Speaker 5>now the Department of Unjustice as a department as opposed

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<v Speaker 5>to the Department of Injustice. So the Department of grammatical

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<v Speaker 5>Injustice is now bad er than it was. So now

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<v Speaker 5>what is he to just pardon everybody? Just everybody?

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>They're That's what they're like. You get a parton, and

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<v Speaker 3>you get a parton, and you get a party, and

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<v Speaker 3>you get a parton. Look on your seat.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a part of The hilarious part about this

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<v Speaker 1>is it's an outright admission of guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you need all.

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<v Speaker 1>These pardons if nobody's done anything wrong, What are you

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of? Even if does prosecute certain figures, which he

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<v Speaker 1>has threatened to do, if they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Innocent, what do you care at all time?

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<v Speaker 5>Because of the process, the Department I'mjustice targets the just.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it's going to be the opposite stay. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>bizarro world. If you're say it's so bad, the Department

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Justice is suddenly going to become evil. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to go, Oh, I've got to find all the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who have followed the law over the past four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Stration I always say when it comes to the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, the joke is in the name. I mean this,

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<v Speaker 1>this blanket pardon which excuses Hunter Biden from anything he's

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<v Speaker 1>done since January two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson's son is also going.

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<v Speaker 1>To part interesting year that that is the year that

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<v Speaker 1>the Ukrainian government was overthrown while Joe Biden was VP

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<v Speaker 1>and in charge of Ukrainian relations. Then Hunter in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen was mysteriously put on the board of Burisma, a

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian energy company, despite Hunter having absolutely no relevant skills.

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<v Speaker 1>He then set up meat and greets between that energy

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<v Speaker 1>company and people working for a biolab They're in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>which was started under the Obama administration. The point of

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<v Speaker 1>the story is a lot of Ukrainian dollars to the

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<v Speaker 1>tune of millions were pocketed by the Biden family during

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Hunter Biden was merely the bad boy for Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>and by giving Hunter this pardon, Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Has let himself off the hook.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Trump was actually impeached for trying to uncover the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden crime family, the very crimes that they were very

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<v Speaker 1>worried about. Trump uncovering was the very thing he was

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<v Speaker 1>impeached for.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Joe Biden's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gone, I'm not putting up with that again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just giving this blanket pardon. My family is now in

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<v Speaker 1>the clear. But this has been spoken about, these blanket

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<v Speaker 1>pardons for all and sundry for quite a while. Now

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<v Speaker 1>check out this guy, Ed Markey. He's a US Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat. Of course, he said last month. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear by January nineteenth that revenge is his Trump's intention,

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<v Speaker 1>then I would recommend to President Biden that he provides

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<v Speaker 1>those preemptive pardons to people, because that's really what our

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<v Speaker 1>country is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to kneed next year.

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<v Speaker 1>He emphasized the healing potential of a presidential pardon. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Nixon's pardon allowed our country to just close that

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<v Speaker 1>chapter and just move on to a new era.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden would be very well be in the same situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and people will look back and say, that's what our

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<v Speaker 1>country wants.

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<v Speaker 2>So the beacon no justice.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm enjoying this so much so so I'd have to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>On the right page here.

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<v Speaker 5>So the moral beacon of the current Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 5>Richard Nixon, post.

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<v Speaker 3>Watergates the irony, Like, not before we knew he did it,

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<v Speaker 3>but after he went out and was like pardoning everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the LA that's your guy. You know, we need

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<v Speaker 5>to turn back. You know, it's like there Ben Shiffley,

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<v Speaker 5>the Light on the Hill. We need to look back

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<v Speaker 5>at the heroes of Democratic past, but.

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<v Speaker 3>See what they were doing. What did Richard Nixon do?

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<v Speaker 3>After all?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but the people who are wanting these pre empty

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<v Speaker 4>pardons are the same people who were so ready to

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<v Speaker 4>rush in and defend the fact that Joe has given Hunter,

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<v Speaker 4>so many Democratic leaders have rushed in decided it was

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful that Joe gave Hunter a pardon? Or did they?

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<v Speaker 4>Chuck Schumer is the leader of the Democrats in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's how strongly he came to the defense of Joe

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<v Speaker 4>and Hunter.

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<v Speaker 8>Agree with some of your Democratic College sy that President

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<v Speaker 8>Biden's parted a Hunter Biden and his wrong or unwise

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<v Speaker 8>puts personal interest.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead of duty. I got nothing for you on that.

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<v Speaker 9>Can I pull up on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Concerned black transparency, lack of honesty.

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<v Speaker 5>Around my institute.

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, I got nothing for you on that noe.

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<v Speaker 8>Parting anyone on the way out of office, Stanley members

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<v Speaker 8>set support.

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<v Speaker 3>President, Thank you. I've got nothing for you on that.

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<v Speaker 10>But the question is they talked about January sixth, parties.

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<v Speaker 10>This is a playbook for incoming President Trump. Isn't this

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<v Speaker 10>a problem? Did he not establish a bad precedent for partners?

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<v Speaker 3>I got nothing for you on that. I want any

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<v Speaker 3>other subjects.

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<v Speaker 4>It is wonderful, I've got nothing for you on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that he's not prepared to defend the hunt

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<v Speaker 4>of Biden pardon once quite would like one himself, just

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<v Speaker 4>in case to be covered. It's not the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>the Biden government is doing. They got money.

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<v Speaker 1>Very concerned with pardons because Trump has elected very very

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<v Speaker 1>strong characters, absolute bulldogs, to head up his do O

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<v Speaker 1>J to head up advisory of the FBI, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the good reason that these people want their pardons.

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<v Speaker 2>They know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But something else the Democrats are very scared about will

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<v Speaker 1>be ruined by the Trump administration is the billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars they have been funneling into little agency here, little

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit there, to the tune of one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the Biden administration to solve the climate crisis. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>so today we learn that fifty four Democratic lawmakers have

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<v Speaker 1>penned a letter asking Biden to quickly distribute the climate

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<v Speaker 1>funds before he leaves office, before Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Can ruin it all.

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<v Speaker 1>We read in Politico today, fifty four Democratic members of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress has signed on to a letter asking President Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden to lock in future climate change initiatives by dispersing

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<v Speaker 1>the promised funds before he leaves office. The letter urges

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<v Speaker 1>the move to quote ad future politicization or manipulation of

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<v Speaker 1>climate programs end quote before President elect Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican led Congress take over.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this letter came out the same day as the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration proudly announced that it had sponsored over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand agencies using funds that they were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>use via their House This for an ironically named bill.

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<v Speaker 2>The Inflation Reduction Act.

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<v Speaker 1>They've literally reached the threshold of the expenditure, which was

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred billion dollars, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still pressing for more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our mates at Project Veritas, you might remember these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They love doing these undercover interviews with a person sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down on the other side of the table has absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no idea they're talking to a reporter from Project Veritas.

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<v Speaker 2>They went undercover to to someone from the.

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<v Speaker 1>EPA who, unbeknownst to him, just gave them the mother

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<v Speaker 1>load of what they're up to behind the scenes in

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 8>So an EPA so a lot of times amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do you know.

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<v Speaker 8>The PLAT production back cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Biden's timate long, yes, yeah, So I do hire impremutations.

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<v Speaker 8>I work with like Biden appointees, somebody that.

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<v Speaker 2>We've given out.

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<v Speaker 3>We've given out.

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<v Speaker 8>Like tens of billions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of dollars like I had last year.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll hid we given out like fifty million dollars. Fifty

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<v Speaker 8>million dollars billion, Billy would be fifty billion dollars now

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<v Speaker 8>just having to get the money out is half as

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<v Speaker 8>possible before they come in, like top really basically after

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<v Speaker 8>it all is now, I mean now would always like

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<v Speaker 8>it truly feels like run at work, throwing like the

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<v Speaker 8>part off the top when they come in, we haven't

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<v Speaker 8>gotten out the door and.

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<v Speaker 2>They get stopped in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like two months.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I think they gave them the money because it

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<v Speaker 8>was harder if it was a government run program they

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<v Speaker 8>could get the money your way one, because it was

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<v Speaker 8>it was an experience politic and comboining for like these

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<v Speaker 8>are basically like non profit intitutionis that morning covering the

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<v Speaker 8>entire country. They could have been a coy agency, but

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<v Speaker 8>because they aren't a sper from the publican decision and

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<v Speaker 8>these guys are like saving the world literally.

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<v Speaker 1>An insurance policy in case those Trumpers get in. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the way now, kel and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they will be in this nonsense act asap.

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<v Speaker 4>One of these guys described it as throwing gold bars

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<v Speaker 4>off the Titanic, which is That's not the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>happening in the United States at the moment. There's an

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<v Speaker 4>important case currently before the U. S. Supreme Court Tennessee

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<v Speaker 4>pastor law making it illegal to give transgender or gendersphoric

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<v Speaker 4>children of the kind of chemical treatment, the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>chemical castration, or puberty blockers, or any sort of medical

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<v Speaker 4>treatment while they are still children. That's now illegal in Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 4>not just in Tennessee, in about half of the American states,

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty six American states. So the Supreme Court justices have,

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<v Speaker 4>according to The Daily Mail, have hinted where they stand

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<v Speaker 4>on this transgender medicine. They've they're hearing an appeal from

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<v Speaker 4>the Biden government saying we want the Tennessee law canceled.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's canceled, of course, it will be canceled in

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<v Speaker 4>all the other twenty five states that have got it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the kind of arguments that have been put up,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them are interesting, some of them are quite strange.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, Justice Jackson, an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 4>is saying banning this sort of transgender treatment for children. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like banning into racial marriage.

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<v Speaker 11>The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied

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<v Speaker 11>to both races, and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>But I read the statute here, excuse me the case here.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, the court starts off by saying that Virginia

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<v Speaker 11>is now one of sixteen states which prohibit and punished

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<v Speaker 11>marriages on the basis of racial classifications. And when you

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<v Speaker 11>look at the structure of that law, it looks in

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<v Speaker 11>terms of incontinuing you can't do something that is inconsistent

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<v Speaker 11>with your own characteristics. It's sort of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as I could follow her reasoning, she's now

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<v Speaker 4>saying child is now a race and has to be

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<v Speaker 4>treated as a race. No, children are people who don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand consequences. There are reasons why children cannot choose on

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<v Speaker 4>their own to make decisions which will alter them for

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of their lives, because they're not good about

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about how things are going to be the Wednesday

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<v Speaker 4>after next. Children can't understand consequences. And there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of risks in this disputed surgery. And this came

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<v Speaker 4>up in an exchange between Donald Trump's prosecutor is Solicitor

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<v Speaker 4>General and Judge Alito.

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<v Speaker 7>After the filing of your petition, of course, we saw

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<v Speaker 7>the release of the Cast Report in the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 7>which found a complete lack of high quality evidence showing

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<v Speaker 7>that the benefits of the treatments in question here outweigh

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<v Speaker 7>the risks. I wonder if you would like to stand

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<v Speaker 7>by the statement that you made in your petition.

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<v Speaker 12>I of course acknowledged Justice Alito that there is a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of debate happening here and abroad about the proper

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<v Speaker 12>model of delivery of this care and exactly when adolescents

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<v Speaker 12>should receive it, and how to identify the adolescence for

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<v Speaker 12>whom it would be helpful. But I stand by that

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<v Speaker 12>there is a consensus that these treatments can be medically

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<v Speaker 12>necessary for some adolescents.

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<v Speaker 4>And she says that after the Tavistock Clinic in Britain

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<v Speaker 4>was closed down because of what it was doing to

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<v Speaker 4>young children. The report that was referred to, the Cash Report,

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<v Speaker 4>was done by doctor Hillary Cash. Baron is Cash, who

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<v Speaker 4>is an expert in pediatrics. There's there's a huge debate

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<v Speaker 4>in the community, and it looks like what is happening

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<v Speaker 4>in the so called gender affirming treatment. That is, you

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<v Speaker 4>take children who have gender dysphoria, who were confused about

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<v Speaker 4>gender and you affirm their confusion. That's what gender affirming

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<v Speaker 4>sort of treatment is. It's being practiced in Australia by

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<v Speaker 4>gender affirming clinics, and we are worse off than they are, Liz,

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<v Speaker 4>because we're not discussing it directly.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think we don't allow operation.

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<v Speaker 4>Four or five times we've had this proposals as something

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate should look at, and we're just not looking

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<v Speaker 4>at it. We're not thinking about it, we're not discussing it,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not debating it. And so little children are having

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<v Speaker 4>their bodies changed, but.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not dark how they're not don't we don't allow.

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<v Speaker 5>It's against the law in Australia for any surgical procedures

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<v Speaker 5>against minors transit.

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<v Speaker 4>The medical procedures of puberting blockers damage them for life.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been cases Joe like double missectomies.

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<v Speaker 3>Not for underta.

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<v Speaker 1>And get certain yes it was approved for a certain

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen year old, but certainly where Senator pull Into Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>has tried five times now to get upper movement in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, which simply says, let's have an inquiry into this.

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<v Speaker 1>The UK have banned it. It is no longer happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK. The CAST report was so comprehensive they

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<v Speaker 1>came out and said, we are not transitioning children any more.

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<v Speaker 2>No more cross sex hormones, no more gender blockers. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I looking for?

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<v Speaker 1>The Tabubany book huby blockers, thank you very much, which

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<v Speaker 1>have been shown to affect your fertility for the rest

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of your life, as well as bone density and any number.

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<v Speaker 2>Of other issues.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had child psychiatrists and pediatricians here in Australia even

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<v Speaker 1>stood down from their jobs because they refuse to go

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<v Speaker 1>along the narrative of gender affirming care.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, I can't do it. It goes against my morals.

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<v Speaker 2>This is completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But we seem to be, like you say, kel behind

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world here because several Western countries

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<v Speaker 1>now have banned the practice all together, and as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even looking into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think that the thing that happens is going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen in the US, I believe, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that was what the rather strange argument being made by

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<v Speaker 5>Justice Jackson was comparing to interracial marriage is very strong because, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, but I don't think the Supreme Court, and

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<v Speaker 5>I might be wrong, but I don't think the Supreme

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<v Speaker 5>Court can tell a state that has jurisdiction over a

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<v Speaker 5>matter that it can and can't do something because it's

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<v Speaker 5>harmful to children, or because it's this and that, or

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<v Speaker 5>because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know this argument. You know the Cast Review in the

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<v Speaker 3>UK said this or that.

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<v Speaker 5>All the Supreme Court can do is decide whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not what the state is doing is unconstitutional. If it

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<v Speaker 5>violates the US Constitution, then they can say, sorry, you

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<v Speaker 5>can't do this, because our job is to uphold the

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<v Speaker 5>US Constitution. And I think what the Justice would have

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<v Speaker 5>been saying is that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to sort of get.

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<v Speaker 5>An idea, but the Constitution says you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 5>treat people differently based on race. She said with Tennessee

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<v Speaker 5>before tried to say, well, we're banning into racial marriage.

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 5>We're not treating people differently based on race. The ban

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<v Speaker 5>applies both to both equally, and that would be what

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<v Speaker 5>the state is saying here that it applies to everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's not actually unconstitutional. Whereas the whereas the Supreme

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<v Speaker 5>Court could potentially find that anything that has some laws

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<v Speaker 5>for some people, say for example women and roe versus

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 5>Wade or versus men, and not for other people, that

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<v Speaker 5>could be unconstitual.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the arguments she's trying to make, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's a weird.

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<v Speaker 2>One in a very nonsensical way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how that is very relevant at all,

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Jackson. But of course we know the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>does have a majority of conservatives on it, so I'm

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>sure I'm pretty confident we can.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Be confident of a good ruling in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Australia now, where Daniel Molino Labor MP has

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<v Speaker 1>called Australia Day contraversal.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Here he was last night talking to Shari.

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<v Speaker 13>Australia Day has evolved further and it is fair to

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<v Speaker 13>say that it has become somewhat controversial in parts of

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 13>our community, and I think we're in an interesting transition

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 13>at the moment with Australia Day. I think as a

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 13>country we are going through a process where different parts

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 13>of our community are wanting to treat Australia Day differently.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know what the endpoint is going to be.

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<v Speaker 13>What I'd say is there's no single rule here.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about, mate?

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<v Speaker 1>The polls all say, the balls all say the vast

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>majority of Australians one to Australia Day left alone, one

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate our national day and the glorious nation that

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>we live in. It seems to me this entire narrative

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>is around telling us that we can only be ashamed.

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Of what the settlers did when they.

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<v Speaker 1>Came here, and we can't be proud of what they

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<v Speaker 1>actually achieved.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes absolutely no sense.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And like I keep saying, Joe, you can't change the

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>date of a birthday, and we all know even if

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he did change the date, everyone would still have the

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>same issue with the new date because you are essentially

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<v Speaker 1>still celebrating the exact same thing.

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, there are lots of sort of bvides can do this,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>The first thing to say is that Danie Moleno was

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<v Speaker 5>just the epitome of a person, a politician who is

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<v Speaker 5>trying to say absolutely nothing while keeping the words coming

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<v Speaker 5>from his mouth so it didn't look like it was

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 5>absolutely nothing, while at the same time having a panic attack,

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 5>while at the same time trying to realize the exact

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 5>composition of his electorate of Fraser but I think. I

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<v Speaker 5>think firstly, there will be obviously politicians who represent the

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 5>lefier and leftier, more affluent in the suburbs, who are

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 5>worried about a backlash against them from all the activists

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 5>who don't like Australia or whatever and are trying to

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 5>get seats back from the Greens in the case of

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 5>the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's just he doesn't actually believe that he's

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<v Speaker 1>shilling for votes.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, what's he actually saying. He's saying, he's not saying anything.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 5>He's not even staking a position on it. He wants

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 5>to be seen quite evidently, quite evidently, it is controversial.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 5>There are protests against it all the time. Point he's

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<v Speaker 5>not going into swing. He's not going to swing in

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 5>for it, and he's not going to swing in against it.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 5>He's just saying absolutely nothing. I, however, have the perfect

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 5>solution for everybody. Do you tell This week marks the

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<v Speaker 5>I think one hundred and seventieth anniversary of the Eureka

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<v Speaker 5>Stockade Rebellion, when the Mighty Miners under Peter Lalor rose

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<v Speaker 5>up against the injustice and tyranny of a government. And

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 5>it's got absolutely everything you want in a national Day. Firstly,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 5>the Eureka flag is an awesome flag.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 3>It looks really good.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 5>It's been it's been co opted by the far right

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 5>and the far left. You could bring it back to

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 5>the mainstream and say no, you guys don't get to

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 5>take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry cfm AU.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry is the white supremacist neo Nazis we're taking It's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be our flag now.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 3>It looks really good, looks better.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 5>It wouldn't be controversial at all than any of the

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 5>other flags that have been put forward as a suggestion

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 5>to replace the current standard that we have.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>This is a moment that appeals you're talking.

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>About replacing the flag as well as Australia Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything, because you've got firstly, you've got what a moment,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>what a moment of national unity?

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 5>Right, This is Australia's answer to This is Australia's answer

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 5>to the Boston Tea Party, because these are miners rising

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 5>up and say no taxation without representation. But it's also

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 5>workers rising up for their rights, and so again it

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 5>appeals to both the right and the friends of liberty

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 5>and no taxation without representation, and it also appeals to

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 5>the left because of course it's all about defending workers'

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 5>rights in the face of an exploitative colonialist government, and

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 5>just to even just put this perfect little cherry on

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 5>the top. It is also a great celebration of multiculturalism

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 5>because far from being the sort of all white Anglo

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 5>Irish miners who were rising up and everything, the first

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 5>death at Areka Stockade, I think it was the first

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 5>person hanged after they were all rounded up, or whether

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 5>the were gone, the spot was actually a black African American.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 4>One of the first. The history was written by Raphael Carboni,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 4>so yes, it was a multi ethnic thing. I'm glad

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>you're catching up because about ten years ago, I think

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 4>twelve years ago, I suggested this to John Howard. We

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>talked about the one and it became obviously ten years.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Ago, Kell you were talking about changing the date of Australia.

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 4>It occurred to me anyway, hang on, hang on, I've

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>worked through this. I know what's wrong. It's a bad idea,

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 4>and it's a bad idea because in fact it's not

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 4>a big national significant event. It's not big enough. It

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't start the country in the way the American Revolution

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 4>did and their independence day July the fourth did for them.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't change a birthday. You were born on the

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 4>twenty third of June. We can't pretend you weren't. You

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 4>were modern Australia began on the twenty sixth of January.

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>We can't pretend otherwise. And nailed it because when she said,

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 4>we have got to stop being ashamed of settlement, because

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 4>that's what everyone wants. If we changed it to would

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 4>say we're ashamed of settlement. We're not ashamed of settlement.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 4>We've got to say people came here who had a

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 4>developed civilization which they shared in the end with the

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 4>people who were Do you know what happened when Australia

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>was claimed for a Britain. Every person living here, every

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 4>human being, whether they were indigenous or they were convictors,

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 4>became a British citizen under the British law. They and

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 4>they got all these gifts such are settlers. They got engineering,

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 4>they got the wheel, which they hadn't better, They got

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 4>a written language, they got trial by jewy, they got

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 4>presumption of innocent. Huge amounts of things arrived. Settlement was good.

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<v Speaker 4>We must stop being ashamed of settlement.

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<v Speaker 5>I think first thing first, just to create the historical

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 5>record before it comes in There was no Australia in

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 5>seventeen eighty eight, and there was no Australia until nineteen

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 5>oh one New Year's Day. That was when the nation

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 5>of Australia was born. What happened on what happened on

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 5>seventeen eighty eight was that Arthur Philip raised the flags

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 5>except the win Jackson except I thought it was a

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 5>birthday and there was no way you could change birthday.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, it was ready raised the flags. No one.

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<v Speaker 4>Subjects, not citization day.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>It's been yeah, but not the foundation of Australia.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 5>That was the foundation of the Colony of New South

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Wales CULP, which is the rit Australia.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>All the same rights, all the same privileges.

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Et cetera, all the same diseases.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think the settlers always get such a bad

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 1>end of the straw because throughout Western history they're like, oh,

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>these white people came to our country, and wasn't it terrible. Really,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they were visiting ancient tribes who hadn't.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Figured out how to make.

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>A will, yet they bought with them medicine, the idea

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of government, how to run a cohesive society, lay.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Roads or probably didn't have the medicine that.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 2>We brought, all the better for nobody.

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 5>Know we didn't have We didn't bring the many medicine

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 5>when the diseases were killing you. We didn't have the

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 5>medicine for the diseasion, and you were allowed to beach

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 5>of free country. We had not ashamed of settlement.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 3>You just have to acknowledge the history. You just have

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 3>to get the history right.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>We can acknowledge the history, but.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>None of it. The history that's completely wrong.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 9>The killer they said at the top of the topic,

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 9>we are being told to be ashamed of that which happened,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 9>which we all know about, which was shameful, without being

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 9>allowed to then be.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 5>It's the same if you want to say, as you

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 5>would say, we came here with the best of intentions.

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 3>There was a from King George. It said, please treat.

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 5>The native populations with the utmost friendliness and care, and

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 5>Arthur Philip did try to do that, and then there

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 5>was some violence and things escalated, but both sides. That's yeah,

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 5>that's that's what I'm saying. There was violence between both

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 5>of them, So there was initially some of the For

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 5>the first few weeks of the colony, everyone lived together

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 5>really well, and then there was I think there was

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 5>some Arthur Phillip said anyone who harms the native will

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 5>be hung or hanged, sorry.

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Hung, and they were hung.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 5>And then there and then there was some black violence

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 5>against white and so those people were inscald.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right.

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm explaining it to you. But you could say,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 5>and you can actually say, and what you should say

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 5>is that we brought all manner of disease that which

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 5>was by far the biggest killer of them. We didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have any medicine for it. All we had was a

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<v Speaker 5>natural immunity that they did not. It wiped out half

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 5>their population. But we didn't do it on purpose. It

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't done with malice. It wasn't a state orchestrated genocide

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<v Speaker 5>as has happened in other countries. There was settler violence

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<v Speaker 5>on the frontiers down the track. But that's how you

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<v Speaker 5>tell the story. You tell it proper, you don't wrap

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<v Speaker 5>it up in a little pink bo and say, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It all We want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep us citizens Australia and we didn't have any medicines.

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<v Speaker 3>So's just we've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to a break now.

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<v Speaker 1>But stay tuned, will bring you tomorrow's news tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>In a bit welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the part where we bring you tomorrow's news tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Kel you've got the Australian.

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<v Speaker 4>I have got the Batchee Daily and the big splash

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<v Speaker 4>headline on the front page says b B two pm,

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<v Speaker 4>you are inviting terrorism. So it's the Prime Minister of Israel,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Benjamin Netanya who writing to our Prime minister. The story says,

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<v Speaker 4>quote the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnia, who

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<v Speaker 4>has strongly criticized the Albanezi government over its retreating support

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<v Speaker 4>for Israel and promotion of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 4>In comments provided exclusively to The Australian, the office of

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<v Speaker 4>mister Niah who said, quote the disappointing change in position

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<v Speaker 4>of the United Nations would undoubtedly quote invite more terrorism

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 4>and more anti Semitic riots on Western campuses and city centers,

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<v Speaker 4>including they say Australia. I find it really bizarre. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand why Penny Wong and Anthony Albanesi are taking

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<v Speaker 4>the position they have for a long time. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a bipartisan position by all the major parties. We will

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<v Speaker 4>support the state of Israel, it's the ancestral homeland of

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<v Speaker 4>the Jewish people. It's a democratic notion in the Middle East.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 4>They our allies. Bob Hawk certainly took this line, and

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason, Pennywong and Anthony Alberanesi have taken the

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<v Speaker 4>line of no, no, no. Our traditional support for Israel

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<v Speaker 4>is gone, and we're going to support the Palestinians. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't seem to understand they're even out of step with

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<v Speaker 4>the Palestinians. They keep talking about a two state solution.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 4>The official Palestinian line is a one state solution that

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<v Speaker 4>runs from the Mediterranean seat of the jaw Ord River,

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<v Speaker 4>with no Israel in between. So I simply I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>grasp what they think they're achieving, except perhaps propping up

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 4>the votes of Muslim voters in some Australian electrics. Surely, Joe,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't be as calible.

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<v Speaker 3>The true state solution thing hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly the same as it was under Bob Hawk,

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<v Speaker 5>as it is under Anti Albanesi. I think the difference

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<v Speaker 5>has been that they have been more forthright in advancing

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<v Speaker 5>the case for the establishment and recognition of Palestine as

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<v Speaker 5>a sovereign state. So back in the old days, think

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<v Speaker 5>the whole thing was just in the too hard baskets. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we believe in a true state solution, okay, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there is no Palestine at the moment, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>no workable two state solution. What they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 4>is to go ahead of the facts and pretend there

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<v Speaker 4>is such a thing as a Palestine.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they're trying to fast track that and that's what

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<v Speaker 5>this resolution is about, and that's what the previous resolution

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<v Speaker 5>they support.

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<v Speaker 3>It was about.

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<v Speaker 5>So they have become more assertive in pursuing the two

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<v Speaker 5>state solution.

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<v Speaker 3>The objective, not more assertive.

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<v Speaker 4>They've actually changed their support from the two state solution

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<v Speaker 4>to pushing something which doesn't exist at the moment and

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<v Speaker 4>is controlled by terrorists wherever it. Let's stay with the

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<v Speaker 4>Australian with the National broad treat because it's such a

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 4>good newspaper. Also on the front page on the top

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<v Speaker 4>right hand side, there's a story about the salmon Battle,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 4>the battle between different aspects of the Labor Party, the

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 4>bits that Joe agrees with and the bits he doesn't

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 4>agree with. The salmon fishing and salmon fishing industry on

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 4>the West coast of Tasmania is enormous. This story, says

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Albanezi has floated a radical solution to the Tasmanian

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 4>salmon standoff, granting fish farms in Macquarie Harbor as national

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<v Speaker 4>interest exemptions from federal environmental laws. The federal environmental laws

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<v Speaker 4>that could it a few are those being proposed by

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<v Speaker 4>Taniel Pleppersek, which would say, there is a fish called

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<v Speaker 4>the mcgean skate, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, and the

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 4>mcgean skate might actually become extinct because so much of

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 4>the oxygen is being taken out of the water by

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 4>these huge fish farms. And if five thousand people lose

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 4>their jobs, well, as long as the little skate survives,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 4>that's perfectly all right, according to Tanya Blubisik, and lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Out on millions hundreds of millions of dollars that salmon

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>brings into the Tasmanian ecmpomy. On top of that, what

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get about this, Joe, is this has already

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<v Speaker 1>been hanging over the salmon industry in Tasmanian's heads.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>For twelve months. Yeah, what theyck is happening.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>And now the Albanezi government has turned around and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to wait till after.

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<v Speaker 2>The election to make a call.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've already lost those votes, because then you've got

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Dutton who's come out and said, you guys are safe

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<v Speaker 1>with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Do pass something that will trash the industry in Tasmania,

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<v Speaker 1>we will.

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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of it, we will repeel it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're in the salmon industry in Tasmania, you're

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<v Speaker 1>already voting liberal.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Why is he now just.

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Further confusing it, being like, oh, new idea two seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to midnight. And again everybody knows because they've already.

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Said so they're actually not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To make a call before Tasmanians go to the polic.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I suppose they're trying to what they's so you're

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 5>absolutely right, this is a ridiculous thing. And this the

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 5>Maugian skate is this weird sort of ray fish. It's

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 5>very ugly, only lives, it's very ugly. Apparently it's related

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<v Speaker 5>to the dinosaurs, which I thought the birds were. It

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<v Speaker 5>only lives in Macquarie Harbor, which is where all the

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 5>salmon farms are, and so of course all the inner

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 5>city environmentalists on the mainland, well we have to save

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 5>this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on the verge of extinction.

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<v Speaker 5>There are three marginal seats, plus another the seat of Franklin,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think is the seat of the actual Agriculture

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 5>and Fisheries Minister. And a nice little twist and she

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:48.959
<v Speaker 5>is all over that joint.

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 3>She has just on.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 5>She's on the red eye every night back and from

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<v Speaker 5>from Tasmania, and half the cabinet's been down there as well.

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<v Speaker 5>They will definitely intervene to stop this ban or suspension

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 5>or pause on salmon farming going ahead. I guarantee they

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 5>will absolutely do that. The question is how they do it.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 5>So the Environment Minister Taniel Peters has the power in

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 5>her hands to say right boink not, you can't do

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 5>the salmon farming and you.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Can't do it for no. He wants to stop her

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.720
<v Speaker 3>from doing that. He wants to stop her from pausing.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 3>That is exactly what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why, that's why he's the Prime minister. If he's

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 4>got any leadership, he pulls.

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 3>His That's that's right, and that's what he's doing. But

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>that is what he's doing.

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 4>As her into his offices. I'm the Prime and ill

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 4>you to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be surprised in the Western system of government. That's not

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 5>as easy as it looks. That's slightly more Europe and

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 5>South America. No, he has developed a mechanism by which

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 5>he can protect this harbor, this industry from anything tany

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 5>p does.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Do it, all right, that's what he's done.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Joe tomorrows for him. Do tomorrow's newspapers tell us

0:43:58.440 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 4>it's likely to work for well.

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:00.959
<v Speaker 3>No, that's a this is what he's saying. He's saying.

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<v Speaker 5>No matter if if Tanniel plup sect does decide to

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 5>do this, I can carve.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 4>Out interesting Tomorrow's newspaper.

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<v Speaker 5>Tomorrow's newspapers say nothing about this whatsoever. Tomorrow's newspaper in fact,

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 5>and this is one of the greatest things I just

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 5>love about the news industry, and especially my beloved Daily Telegraphs.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 3>So let's go to look at that. First of all.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's not the fact that Sam Arntige is single again,

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 5>but that's lovely to know as well. But it is

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 5>the fact that James Campbell has an exclusive yarn PM's

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 5>hometown will decide the election new poll Backyard Blitz. Five

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 5>labor seats in New South Wales are poised to swinging

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 5>to the Coalition and Peter Utton and next to his

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 5>federal election. Exclusive new polling shows setting up a fierce

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 5>battle in Anthony Albanese's own backyard. Love it great yarn

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 5>you know Crack and reporter Crack and research Costamaris and

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 5>Redbridge again who the PM says. I don't think they

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 5>like me very much because they all their polling seems

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 5>to be a bit negative.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>On porld Albo not just accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I was interested to see in the Herald Sun

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 5>the other great News Corp masthead the exact same yeah,

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 5>by the exact same reporter James Campbell, but this time.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 3>It's battlevound battleground Victoria.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Exclusive shock poll reveals Coalition on course to pick up

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 5>at least one labor seat in our state, with four

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 5>more in balance in mid Angrave Costs a living crisis

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 5>James Campbell and George Georgie title as well. Shot view

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 5>polling shows the Coalition is likely to pick up one

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 5>seat in Victoria, with another four labor held electorates now

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 5>in the balance as our state emerges as the key

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 5>battleground in next year is Freder election, which this news

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 5>reportage at its fighters talk about the local angle, exact

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 5>same data, the exact same story, and New South Wales

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 5>and Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>Have both got no. No, it's our state. It's our state.

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 3>That's better. I can fortunately settle this. The Daily Telegraph

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 3>is always right. Of course, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was too predictable.

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Just quickly before we go to another break, the NT

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>News has a cracker Tracy, you bitch, symbol of defiance.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It became one of the defining images of the destruction

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>wrought by Cyclone Tracy. Now fifty years on, a Darwin

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Locals crumpled holden tarana has been recreated for the reopening

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:19.919
<v Speaker 1>of the Northern Territories Museum and Art Gallery Cyclone Tracy Exhibition.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to know more about that, we

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>did a doco just last week on it, which you

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>can still watch online.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got to go to a break, just very quickly,

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<v Speaker 5>Can we just pull up that image for just one second,

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 5>because I want to say something very telling. If you

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:38.240
<v Speaker 5>look at the back of the tarana, they've spelt Tracy wrong,

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 5>which I think is the most boguan Australian thing ever.

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Go Territory do it spelt wrong as well?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just amazing. I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to go to a break. We'll see you

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 2>in a few minutes. Don't go away, welcome back. Well.

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.359
<v Speaker 1>While his team are talking about preemptive pardons for themselves

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and the corrupt government that has been where is Biden,

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you might ask, Well, he's pulling his signature move during

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a climate meeting in Africa US.

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 14>In support of the development of the Orbito Corrido. Tanzania

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 14>have used the Orbito Corrido as an integral quetro broad

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 14>strategy connectivity in Africa.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Also the factor that.

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>He's turned out, I mean, are you going to watch?

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to miss the sleep in the last.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Four years, I been to one of those conferences, but

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 5>I can promise you catching a few z's is the

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 5>smartest possible course of action that shows a man in

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 5>the prime of his faculties.

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Except that he's caught on camera, which is not wonderful.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 4>I've got to say last Christmas, my little grandson's going

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 4>to be a pair of socks. One sock said, Grandpa

0:47:58.200 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 4>is not asleep. The other sock said, he is just

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 4>resting his eyes. Basically, that's what dear old Joe actually needs.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.720
<v Speaker 4>I am I'm just resting my eyes on his shirt.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not asleep. I'm just preemptively pardoning everyone I know.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Before we leave you. Tonight, the UK has.

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Unveiled their new top model and it is groundbreaking.

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>It is history making.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline reads, in a historic victory, Alex Consani his

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<v Speaker 1>crown Model of the Year at the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>Fashion Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this historic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because Alex is a man now. Previous winners are

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<v Speaker 1>famous supermodels that our household names, the likes of Naomi Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Woman, Kara Delavine, Kate Moss, who has graced the

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<v Speaker 1>front pages of every glossy magazine for decades. But of course,

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<v Speaker 1>would it really be a groundbreaking historic appointment if we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't include a biological man.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't even know cifil model.

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<v Speaker 5>If I had have known it was opened to biological men,

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<v Speaker 5>I would have entered myself. Wouldn't have been fair on

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<v Speaker 5>the other competitors taken.

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<v Speaker 2>It home, But well that's it from us. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>now is the Rita panahe shot