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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Official Supercoach AFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: the very special edition today with the winner of Supercoach

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four joining us to give us some great

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Speaker 1: insights in what he is thinking about as the clock

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Speaker 1: ticks down to round one in twenty twenty five. You

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Speaker 1: might already notice on your podcast feed that every week

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Speaker 1: from here and you'll get an episode early in the

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Speaker 1: week from the Phantom and the Phantoms player team over

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Speaker 1: in Adelaide that we're doing some great twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: predictions that you'll find that on your feed right now,

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Speaker 1: so check that out. And later in the week we'll

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Speaker 1: do an episode in the Herald Sun studio. But today

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Speaker 1: special edition, we're all coming together to speak to the

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Speaker 1: winner from twenty twenty four, who will get to very shortly,

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Speaker 1: but joining us from Adelaide is the Phantom. Phantom, this

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Speaker 1: is the one that we really need to listen to

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Speaker 1: before we seriously get into picking some players for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It is Hello guys, Hello super Coaches. I say it

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Speaker 2: every year, once a year we have someone that can

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Speaker 2: actually play the game, is actually good at AFL's super

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Speaker 2: Coach on the show. So as always a must listen.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to this guy before, we had him on

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Speaker 2: the LIR late last year, and obviously given the results,

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Speaker 2: knows this super coach. Looking forward to getting his opinion,

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Speaker 2: getting his thoughts and what you know, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be an interesting year of super coach in twenty twenty five. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's a few little things that are a bit

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Speaker 1: different to las year, so it'd be great to hear

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Speaker 1: what he's what he's thinking around that, and of course

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't forget also joining us for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I think in twenty twenty five, is Patch fresh off

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Speaker 1: a live cricket blog or a live tennis blogs that's

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Speaker 1: still going, or I think there's more cricket happening, isn't there?

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Speaker 1: But we've ready to grab you for talk some AFL

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Speaker 1: super coach.

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Speaker 3: It never stops, but the heart always longs for super coach.

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Speaker 3: So I'm delighted to be here. I'm delighted not to

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Speaker 3: be thinking about Sri Lanka and the mcg and Australia

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Speaker 3: Park and all Melbourne Park and all the tennis nonsense.

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Speaker 3: I just want to get into some supercoach and pick

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Speaker 3: some brands of some very smart people.

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Speaker 1: We do have one of them, at least on the

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Speaker 1: show today. We've been waffling long enough, we should get

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Speaker 1: to Jovin, who won the fifty grand grand prize in

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Speaker 1: a Super Coach AFL last year with the most points.

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Speaker 1: So yees, round of applause to welcome. Great to see

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Speaker 1: him back in for twenty twenty five. So Joven, welcome

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Speaker 1: onto the show. And how's being the grand Champion of

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Speaker 1: Super Coach changed your life?

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much? All. Well, yeah, it's been an awesome

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Speaker 4: few months since the season wrapped up. I was riding

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Speaker 4: a pretty amazing high for you know, about a month

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Speaker 4: and it was sort of had to keep pinching myself

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Speaker 4: that it was real that you know, everyone plays Super Coach,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I always used to just play for

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Speaker 4: leagues and you always think, you know, there's a bit

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Speaker 4: of a chance, but you know, it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 4: to think about the people that win it, and to

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Speaker 4: be a part of that group has been really special.

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Speaker 1: And did you have you spent the all of fifty

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Speaker 1: grand yet?

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Speaker 4: No? Luckily I have my mum and dad keeping an

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Speaker 4: eye on my money, and my mum recommended me to

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Speaker 4: just put it in a term to pop so I

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Speaker 4: haven't really had much access to it, which is probably a

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Speaker 4: good thing for a twenty year old. So it's just

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Speaker 4: been earning some interest. I'll think more about what I

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Speaker 4: want to do with it, maybe some travel, but at

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Speaker 2: Twenty year old all in Super Coach. Big win in

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Speaker 2: Super Coach obviously, but any big wins on the footy field.

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Speaker 2: Twenty year old still gets around on the field. I

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Speaker 2: believe a big Grand final last year? Did you do

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Speaker 2: the double? Super coach glory and premiership glory on the field?

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately I used up all my luck in Super Coach,

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Speaker 4: so we went down in the Grand Finals, close game,

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Speaker 4: we lost narrowly, so that was a bit disappointing, but

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Speaker 4: I wasn't even too guarded because I was still riding

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Speaker 4: the high from Super Coach. But yeah, it was pretty

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Speaker 4: frustrating not to do the double.

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Speaker 3: Did you at least play better, not oftingly come up

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Speaker 3: a quarter time and check your phone and had every

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that helped me focusing a bit better on

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Speaker 4: my own performance. Yeah, that definitely set my mind straight.

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Speaker 1: And you were telling us off here that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if it came out of your Super Coach winnings,

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Speaker 1: but you were spending some time with mates on a

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Speaker 1: way to just cap off that sort of Supercoach lap

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Speaker 1: of honor I suppose.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that was great fun. We had a good

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Speaker 1: Fine, awesome, and I guess we bebtle to get into

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Speaker 1: some Supercoach talk. So if you've opened the site and

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Speaker 1: maybe we know there are a few different things about

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's one big thing jumping out to me.

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Speaker 4: I've got a whole new player to pick in my

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Speaker 4: used to. I like it. I like the game innovating,

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Speaker 4: and I think the flex is going to be awesome

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Speaker 4: because in AFL fantasy that have a similar not on

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Speaker 4: lot of flexibility to like when you're trading out players.

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Speaker 4: I've got a forward in my flex already. I can

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Speaker 4: I'm still not sure who or what position I'm going

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Speaker 2: Pat, You've had a little bit of time now to

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Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, I'm a huge fan as well.

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Speaker 3: having the short term plan is how I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 3: So far, But yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 1: at and some strategies. I mean, Joven, just based on

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Speaker 1: your experience from last year, how important is the starting team?

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Speaker 1: Obviously we spend weeks and weeks organizing over it and

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Speaker 1: want to get the perfect team in round one, but

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Speaker 1: how important was that to actually getting you to number

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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 4: I think it's more important that, you know, you sort

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Speaker 4: if things go wrong, like in your starting team. You

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Speaker 2: Well, we've seen your forward line out, so you probably,

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Speaker 2: like hearing that from jovin there, you'll be able to

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Speaker 2: fix it up as you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I don't mind the idea of just

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Speaker 1: want to obviously get the right rookies before price is

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Speaker 1: changing things, but especially with round zero, maybe you get

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Speaker 1: and at different times you can you know, really make

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Speaker 1: key to what I would think. But yeah, it's nice

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Speaker 1: to know that you don't have to get every single

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Speaker 1: one player or another player, it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world to make sure you get it spot on

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Speaker 3: And one other thing I was intrigued about Jovian in

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Speaker 3: terms of, like we had the early buys last year

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Speaker 3: that caused a lot of uncertainly about how to deal

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Speaker 3: with that. How are you approaching the early buys this year?

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Speaker 3: How did you approach him last year? Did you avoid

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Speaker 3: everyone that missed the game early or you went to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last year I was pretty like adamant that I

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Speaker 4: best stayed in Like you know, it's not like you're

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Speaker 1: Good way to think about it those splitting those early

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Speaker 3: Ali, you and I were talking about this earlier today,

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Speaker 1: Do you think about the mid season buys at all?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like once it gets to about sort of

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Speaker 2: Yeap fair, it's good to hear. Yeah, sorry Fantom, just

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Speaker 2: I guess lesson and a reminder that, yeah, maybe we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that, especially when you're talking about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I sort of feel like it's a bit difficult

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fantom mentioned Ben Patton. There's another little gain another

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always more of a mid price and underpriced premiums,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm pretty excited about what we can get

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Speaker 1: Who's yeah, give us some names, we need them.

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Speaker 4: know it's gonna be hard to to because he can't

436
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 4: start it more probably only thinking like two or three

437
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 4: is the most you can have. So yeah, it's going

438
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 4: to be how about us to the ground in preseason

439
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 4: and you know, trust the eyes see how these guys

440
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 4: are looking in the preseason games and in Round zero.

441
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: So Clayton Oliver m one is what I'm hearing, and

442
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 3: then working way down from there.

443
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: Hate mid price, yeah, I mean may as well if

444
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 2: you're going to send it.

445
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 3: I do love that he put up Jordan Dawson. He's

446
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 3: someone I've been looking at him, going am I crazy

447
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: for looking at him? After last year? And you know,

448
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 3: sitting next to Tim Mitchell. If I mentioned him, Tim

449
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: will fly into a rage and yell at me. So

450
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 3: it is nice to him that somebody else was looking

451
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: at him.

452
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Speaker 4: He eyed him last year and he was awesome for

453
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 4: a bit and then he wasn't so awesome. But I

454
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 4: think he had some problems with his body, and you

455
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 4: know they were throwing him around a bit. The way

456
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: I see it, though, he's their best player, like along

457
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: with maybe Isaac Grogan, but he's so classy and he

458
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: tackles and they just look bad. I reckon when he's

459
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 4: in the midfield racking up and doing a lot for them.

460
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: So I think he can get back up to where

461
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: he was the year before and push that sort of

462
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 4: one fifteen average, which would be a pretty good return

463
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: for him.

464
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Speaker 1: You're on the ground in South Australia fans so many

465
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Speaker 1: signs of how Dawson's where he's lining up this year.

466
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: I definitely agree that Jove and there Crows do look

467
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 2: a better side with him around the ball, especially what

468
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: he can do ford of center. But he also made

469
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 2: a point there he is there mister fix it as well.

470
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: Matthew Nicks likes to pull him out and station him

471
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: across the ground where he's needed because he is so

472
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: versatile and he can do that. So I can't see

473
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: that not happening again in twenty twenty five, So he

474
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: might get pulled out, especially and they've got a few

475
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: more guys to go through there now. James Petling is

476
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 2: at the club. They give Sid Draper ago the draft d.

477
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: There's a few more names to go through the middle

478
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: of the ground now, So will Matthew Nicks use Jordan

479
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: Dawson a little bit? You're more fluctuating again. Maybe I

480
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: still think he's priced below what he can do. I

481
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: still think he Yeah, it didn't really go right up

482
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: him right for the Crows last year, so I think

483
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: he'll improve on his average, But I'm still just a

484
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: little bit worried about how he might be moved around

485
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: just because he's so influential elsewhere.

486
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: And Joe, when you mentioned all those four hundreds club,

487
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: all those good names. From a sort of strategy perspective,

488
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: what do you want out of it? Obviously, if they

489
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: average on one to ten and you know you can

490
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: keep them, that's amazing, But what do you sort of

491
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: need for someone like a will Day or does he

492
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: perish to be a successful pick this year?

493
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think Laois looking at in terms of like

494
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: what they're priced at, So will they sort of priced

495
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 4: it at like ninety, same with Parish some of those

496
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Speaker 4: other guys like Oliver and like he's priced like in

497
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: the low eighties. I think, so you got that extra

498
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 4: security blanket. You don't need him to do as much.

499
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: But sort of those guys price in the nineties, you

500
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 4: have them to have maybe like fifteen points of upside

501
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 4: I reckon, so sort of pushing that one oh five too,

502
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: you know, and then it's an added bonus if they

503
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: go beyond that, which I think those guys can do.

504
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 4: But there's question marks over like apparently they're trying out

505
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 4: will Day and the forward line and stuff, and you know,

506
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: that Essen midfield is is busy with a lot of

507
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: guys going through there. Yeah. Well, my dad's an essence spport,

508
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: So I wasn't gonna say bad.

509
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: But I'm going to say we're just thinking to be

510
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: bad guys.

511
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

512
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, are you you know you're hoping them

513
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: to be keepers, know, premost for the whole year or

514
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: is it okay if you you know, they just make

515
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: you maybe one hundred grand and then you can trade

516
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: them and you know, upgrade them to someone who's maybe

517
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: dropped in price.

518
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm not looking for them to be keepers,

519
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: like at that price. I don't think you need them

520
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: to be keepers at that price. If they last all

521
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 4: the way up until the mid season buyers and then

522
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: you can start luxury trading them if they've done well enough.

523
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 4: It's not like the cash is nice, but it's also

524
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: like getting the points on field early on, which is

525
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: you know, really you get that bonus of the points

526
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: and the cash generation. That's why mid price is. You know,

527
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: you've got to get the right ones to win it,

528
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: and then you know, if they blow up, like they

529
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: can really hurt you. So I think it's a combination

530
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: of the both.

531
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Speaker 1: All right. Now, quickly touching on the rookies in the midfield,

532
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: are you keen on all of these sort of one

533
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: seventy five to two hundred K guys. There's plenty of

534
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: good ones that the fandom keeps to telling us about.

535
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm keen on them at the moment, but

536
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 4: it's always hard to know until the season, like how

537
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: these guys are going to adjust the play against the

538
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: big bodies. It seems to be like it was a

539
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: good rookie crop in terms of midfielders. A lot of

540
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 4: them had really good junior numbers. They seem to be

541
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 4: tearing up the track, but I mean everyone is at

542
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: this time of year, so I guess we'll just wait

543
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: and see.

544
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Patch. Speaking of the those guys he's speaking about guys

545
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: running through the midfield out Essendon, I thought we haven't

546
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: talked about as much on the show. In the Bracket,

547
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: Elijah Status's third year bomber now been impressing on the track.

548
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: We know it was a junior big ball magnet, big

549
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: super coach numbers when he landed at Essendon. Kicking has improved,

550
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: or looks to have improved anyway, at least against his teammate.

551
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: They're telling us from the ground there at Essendon, is

552
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: he going to get a game and can we pick him?

553
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't know. It's so hard

554
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: to tell what is going to happen at the Bombers

555
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: this year. They've got the North Melbourne problem of having

556
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: tony midfielders and still being just awful at getting the

557
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: ball forward of midfield. So I think outside of Zach Merritt,

558
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: I'm really like, I can't really pick what's going on

559
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: in there. There's been talking about Nick Martin running through

560
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: the middle and being in a center bounce operator. You've

561
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: got Durham staking more claim there. You've got but you know, Sadist,

562
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: but also Hobbs is there. They've got other young guns

563
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: they want to try and push through the midfield and

564
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 3: they're just simply not all going to fit alongside Parish

565
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: set A Field is still on the list and still

566
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: playing well. They've got Dylan Shield apparently off half back,

567
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: but I still think is a you know, from a

568
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: football perspective, guy with a lot of pace that can

569
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: stream out of the center square. So I had the

570
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: same approach for me as I had last year, where

571
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 3: if it's not merit. I'm not touching it with a

572
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: teen foot pole until we see some evidence around it.

573
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: If he comes out and brains it in the practice

574
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: matches and there's obviously a role, then I'd look at it.

575
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: But he kind of scares me a bit. And you know,

576
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: we had this conversation last year where it improved his

577
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: kicking at training and then you know in the games,

578
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: who's made sub for a few games. Confidence looked shot.

579
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: The kicking fell away with it. So I don't know.

580
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: He's pretty much a no for me at this point,

581
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: but willing to be convinced because I would like him

582
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: to be good.

583
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Moving into the ruck Jovin. Looks like the popular move

584
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: is to Tristan Cherry to maybe take the number one

585
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: crown potentially from Max Gorn, and then you've got sort

586
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: of three or four names at the top, and then

587
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: maybe a bit of a gap after that is there

588
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: is can we find some value there unless you go

589
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: all the way down to you know, the some some

590
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: really cheap guys who might get a game this year.

591
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like Tom deconnig. I know he's been

592
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 4: talked up a lot this preseason, but I think He's

593
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: just going to be awesome. You know, Carlton are a

594
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 4: lot better when he plays the Rock. I've seen that

595
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 4: stat you know, sort of circling around, and I think

596
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: he's just primed to have a breakout year. So I

597
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: really like him. I like Sean Darcy, but I'm also

598
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: really scared of Sean Darcy. I think maybe like one

599
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 4: thing that could tibbitt in his favor is that we've

600
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: got those early best eight in rounds and so you know,

601
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 4: if he gets injured in the game and scores a

602
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 4: stink off like, it doesn't hurt your you know, your

603
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: points too much. I think they really prefer him to

604
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Jackson in the Rock. So I think if he plays

605
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 4: and his body's okay, I'd be pretty keen on him.

606
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 4: But you know, it's hard to trust him. And then

607
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: I think, like a Matt Flynn. I've currently got Matt

608
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: Flynn at R two. Actually, I think if he can

609
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: get a solo, I don't know what they like Bailey Williams,

610
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: so I'm not sure if they're just going to discard

611
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: him or what. But Matt Flynn is like I've liked

612
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: what I've seen out of Matt Flynn. Like when he

613
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: was at the Giants. So I don't know, he's just

614
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: one to watch, I guess at this stage, but you

615
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: know pretty keen on him. He feels a bit of value.

616
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: I feel confident about that pick. You feel confident about

617
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: that Matt Flinn pick.

618
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: We've got the tick of approval, the old wink from

619
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: Old DOOSSI, our producer. We know he's big. TD came

620
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: in and kicked him off the show this one now.

621
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: But we spoke about Matt Flynn. It's all about the role.

622
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: Joven said there. Number one ruckman at any club is

623
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: going to score okay and going to score okay at

624
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: that price. He doesn't need to average one hundred or

625
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: even close to it. He think if he gets to

626
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: above eighty at the price and pushes ninety, which he

627
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: doesn't need to have a lot of the footy to

628
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 2: do that. As a big body ruckman, we've seen him

629
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: score okay when he was in front of Kieran Briggs

630
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: at the Giants. So if he's playing round one, I

631
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: think I'm definitely going to pick him an R two

632
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: and you know it's going to not an obvious pick,

633
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: but you know, number one ruckman bigger body. He's not

634
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: a kid. He's ready to go. Yes, his body could

635
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: let him down, which it has already his whole first

636
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: year at the Eagles. But at the price if he's there,

637
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: I agree with Davin.

638
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: And into the forward line. Now. I did listen to

639
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: the phantoms learly this week, and I think nearly everyone

640
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: on the panel pick Jason han Francis is just about

641
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: the number one scorer in Super Coach for the whole season.

642
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Was that right, fandom we did?

643
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: It's a gift out I don't. I know. We all

644
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: debate their say versus VIC. You call us bias, we

645
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: call you bias. But even Patch knows Jason horn frosts

646
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: the Horny one is a gift as a ford. I

647
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: think even five Names predictions show go back, listen to

648
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: that now and have a watch first time. I see

649
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: the Hipster and Code Sports YouTube channel if you are

650
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: listening now. But five Names actually predicted that he out

651
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Speaker 2: does Zach Butters. That was his hot take for twenty

652
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Speaker 2: twenty five, So maybe one day. I'm not sure this year,

653
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: but I think once he gets all together, he's showing

654
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: his scoring power, you can just even improve or round

655
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: out that consistency. A little bit more clear. Number one forward,

656
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Speaker 2: I think you have to pick him out.

657
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Is it right, Jovien? Is that a no brainer? And

658
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot for leaving him out?

659
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know about no brainer, but I think

660
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: he's going to be like even if he doesn't, even

661
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: if he's not the number one forward, he's going to

662
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: be top six anyway. So I think he's he's you're

663
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: doing not too bad to pick him. I've got him

664
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Speaker 4: in my sight at the moment.

665
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I see how he wants to come back

666
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: on the show.

667
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: He's saying, no, no, you're allowed to call Alan idiots.

668
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: And what about after him? Is it's a few pretty

669
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: obvious picks who I am going to pick? I mean,

670
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Jack McCrae, Caleb Daniel, Bailey Smith. Any reason to avoid

671
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: any of those guys?

672
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: No, those three picked themselves. Really, I don't see, you know,

673
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: there's maybe slight concerns, but their value is just way

674
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: too good this year.

675
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: I keep looking for reasons not to pick Bailey Smith.

676
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It just doesn't. It feels a

677
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: bit weird. I don't I don't know. The tailor is tingling,

678
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: and I don't know why but he does like he's

679
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: ticking all the boxes. But I know I've spoken a

680
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: few other people that feel the same way with the like,

681
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: we're just not sure and maybe it's the Geelong factor.

682
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: Maybe we're not sure about you know, how much run

683
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: he's getting on Ree Stanley's farm, if he's been given

684
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: enough time to frolick around. I don't know, it's just

685
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: a bit, I don't know. It just feels a bit weird.

686
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: Am I insane for thinking it feels weird?

687
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

688
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we haven't seen him for some time. Out

689
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Speaker 2: of mind.

690
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a Geelong fan as well, so I'm super

691
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: keane to see what Basilinka produces this. I reckon he's

692
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: going to be awesome. We need a gun inside midfielder,

693
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: so give him the keys, I reckon, and let him

694
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Speaker 4: go to work.

695
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Driven in that price bracket was matthaias Filipo. Obviously news

696
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: during the week a few days before we recorded this show.

697
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: We'll miss the start of the up to three months

698
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: as well. Big blow for the Saints, Big blow. The

699
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: super coach of Valdie Hunters was in your plans.

700
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was one of my first picks. Those like

701
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: he was along with those three guys I thought pretty

702
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: much a lock, but I've actually pivoted to Riley Sanders now,

703
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: which is not as much of a not as much

704
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 4: of a lock. He's, uh, you know, he's got the

705
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: Bevo factor hanging over him. But I really like him.

706
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he can score, and he

707
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: looks good like he's having a big pre season apparently,

708
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: so I'm pretty excited about him. But yeah, the Bevo

709
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: factor scares me a little bit, but I'm pretty bullish

710
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: on Sanders this year, and a.

711
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Little bit.

712
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: Scares me a lot.

713
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: Super coach freak, though we've spoken about him obviously coming

714
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: through the system absolutely massive as a junior. Even when

715
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: he's given the license to go and chase the ball

716
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 2: at the dogs, already he's showing what he can do.

717
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all the Bevo factor. All depends on

718
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: what role he's given. And I think perhaps sent there

719
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: about being scared it could look good for two weeks

720
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: and then it could change suddenly and then go back.

721
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: So I don't mind it, but yeah, take a brave,

722
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: brave person. But again, I guess you don't win super

723
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Coach by sitting back.

724
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Speaker 1: And now the name. I'm obviously watching very closely this year.

725
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: I got totally sacked in by some vision that came

726
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: out on Richmond's Instagram channel the other day of Tom

727
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Lynch kicking some goals and taking some big marks in

728
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a just some int club hitout kind of stuff. But

729
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that that was enough for me. But what do you

730
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: think Jovin? Is he worth the risk this year?

731
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think he is around the mark. I don't

732
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: like picking key forwards ever in super Coach. I mean,

733
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: he is very cheap, he's old as well, and he's

734
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: injury praying. But I'll do I've had him in and

735
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: out of my team, so I'm just gonna you know,

736
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: there's a lot to play out. I'll see how he looks,

737
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: you know, in the preseason, if he gets a couple

738
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 4: of games under his belt and looks at him moving, Okay,

739
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: I'm keen on him, but still a bit unsure at

740
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: this stage.

741
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: What do we need out of him? Five six games

742
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: in a row, that'll be it.

743
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

744
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I looked at Richmond's early maybe we could get

745
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: a bag, but yeah, it's a pretty rough run.

746
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: Early on.

747
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: I think we've got port and along the way and

748
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, some of the Sydney way. Maybe it's going

749
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: to be hard for him to you know. Yeah, if

750
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: you could get two or three game really good scores

751
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: out of him early and he gets a bit of

752
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: a spike, just that's enough.

753
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, we might have to wait a little bit

754
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: for that. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be super coach preseason with that.

755
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: Al Payton sprooking Tom Lynch as a cheap option. It's

756
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: for the last three years getting cheaper. I wonder why.

757
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how that happens.

758
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: All right, we better start wrapping things up. But you know, Jovian,

759
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: you did touch on the fact already the trades is

760
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: really where where you can build your season, and you

761
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: don't have to get it all right with these starting picks.

762
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: But one thing looking back on your season last year

763
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: that I think turned out to be very pivotal in

764
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: the end was saving a couple of trades for later

765
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: in the years. That how you're going to go in

766
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: again this year? Would that be your advice to people

767
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: to try and avoid spinning them all too early? And

768
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: maybe even you know, how do you use the boosts?

769
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: Is that something you could try and hang onto as well.

770
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think, to be honest, I think you

771
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: should trade aggressively, like early on on, Like early on

772
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: in the season is when the price rises are the steepest,

773
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: and you know, you get getting the most value for

774
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 4: players when they're you know, just starting out in the season.

775
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: So I used like two boosts to start last season.

776
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: I think you've got to try and get after it early.

777
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: Get those get those picks that are because they'll get

778
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: away from you. The players that are you know, severely

779
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: undervalued and then just scoring a lot, then you can't

780
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: catch up to them. But then yeah, then you need

781
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: to settle down. And I always like to leave myself

782
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: with a few trades. I don't really care about the

783
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: boost so much. I'll use up the boosts by the buyers,

784
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: but yeah, hold a few trades for the end of

785
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: the season.

786
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Any questions phantom to finish off with before we let

787
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: drive and go.

788
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: I think we've covered it. There've got pretty you know,

789
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: deep into different positions and what we're going to do.

790
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: But any other overarching strategy or super coaches. Someone may

791
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: be looking to play super coach for the first time,

792
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: they're going to pick their team. What's one piece of

793
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: advice you'd give them.

794
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: I would just say mainly, just prioritize value, and I

795
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: would say that when you're trading, you don't get the

796
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 4: points that someone scored when they're not in your team,

797
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: So just keep that in mind, you know, keep chasing value.

798
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 4: It always looks good to bring in a guy that's

799
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: averaging one hundred and twenty, but you've got to think

800
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: about what's going to happen in the rest of the season.

801
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: So that's that's my piece of advice.

802
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the matt ral rule, Pats. I know you had

803
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: one question. Were really keen to ask Jovin when when

804
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: I told you he was coming on today.

805
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: I've now forgot what that question is.

806
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: I think it was around the fact that Joven said

807
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: that he comes up with a new team name every year.

808
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: Of course, yes, Ve, you've had the good calib wins

809
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: are not named last year. What are you rolling with

810
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: this year? Have you decided how much pressure have you

811
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: put on yourself to pick a good name this year?

812
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's been a big decision this year to

813
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: come up with a new team name. But I've I've

814
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: actually got a mate that God drafted up to the

815
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: Gold Coast this year. Cooper Bell, so I've got to

816
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: got to do a Cooper Bell pint it. At the moment,

817
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Cooper Bell, Pepper, Cooper belly ache. I wanted

818
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: Cooper bells and whistles, but didn't fit in the team

819
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: name restrictions, so yeah, something around that. But shout out

820
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 4: to my mate Cooper Bell up at the Gold Coast

821
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: Defender forward status, so I'll be picking him. Hopefully he

822
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: gets a game, but if not, he's a handy loophole.

823
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think he's been going well in

824
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: pre season, so the fingers crossed for him.

825
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

826
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: There's a name for us to keep an eye that

827
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: we haven't heard so far. But thank you, Joe, it's

828
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: been awesome to get those early thoughts. We will touch

829
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: base with you, I think again before the season starts,

830
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: if that's all right to see where you're placed and

831
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: what you're thinking coming into round one. But Phantom Patch,

832
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: thanks for your time on this preseason episode, and I

833
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: think from next week we'll be getting stuck into some

834
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: position shows. I'm not sure Fandom, which is first came

835
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: off the ring. I think we've got rucks then in

836
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Melbourne later in the week.

837
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: Are you doing fours?

838
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: Oh we might be not sure.

839
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: How can we not?

840
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: Yes? No, all coming out of course on you as

841
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: we can get this podcast, Apple, Spotify wherever you get

842
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: or listen to your shows and Code Sports YouTube channel.

843
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: You can see Phantom holding our picture of Jason Horn Frances.

844
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: Just debate out there, but plenty of analysis coming your way.

845
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: Positions breakdown, we'll split them up the lair and the

846
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: crew over there, so plenty of content to come before

847
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: the practice matches kick off and as well then we'll

848
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: be straight into it and we'll have you covered there.

849
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: So a big month and a half and we're not

850
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: far away from the real stuff.

851
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's getting quite close. So thanks everybody for

852
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Speaker 1: listening and we'll talk to you again soon