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Speaker 2: Well, we've been hearing secondhand news about coronavirus and it's

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Speaker 1: But we need the basics.

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Speaker 2: And one man who is just currently wiping his hand

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Speaker 3: We still we suggested we just get him on the phone, Tom,

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Speaker 1: We wanted to look at him. Yeah, it is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: This, I mean, this is a good sign for you

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Speaker 4: guys that I actually showed up here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great stars.

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Speaker 5: Interview takes mate.

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Speaker 2: We spoke to David Campbell before right now, he come

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Speaker 2: in contact with Rita Wilson, Tom Hanks's wife. They're currently

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Speaker 2: both just Tom. Yeah, he knows about it as well. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they've both got coronavirus. Now, he was saying she wasn't

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Speaker 2: for showing any symptoms at all. So when this, when

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Speaker 4: You don't even know you've got it for a few days. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Let me just lay down some ground ground rules on

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Speaker 4: not part of the problem, because a lot of bad

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: It starts out as a mild disease in eighty percent,

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Speaker 4: more than eighty percent of cases, it is in fact

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Speaker 1: It's just impossible to do that.

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Speaker 4: So for the majority of us, it is a mild disease.

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Speaker 4: It'll take two or three days to start showing some symptoms,

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Speaker 4: And that's why we have to take it seriously.

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Speaker 5: What about pregnancy, Sorry, because whips has got a bay

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Speaker 4: It hasn't. There hasn't been a lot of information coming

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Speaker 4: Is that we need to start concentrating on how we

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Speaker 3: I mean when you talk about say, I mean, everybody

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Speaker 4: Again, we need to continue to go about our day

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Speaker 3: So so Italy was just late to the party in

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Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of different reasons why Italy unfortunately

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Speaker 4: I say we're ahead of the pack, are we I

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Speaker 4: don't know, do we have whole numbers on exactly how many.

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Speaker 3: I would suggest that we've taken the right action. Unlike Italy,

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Speaker 4: Some things on our side. We are an island. We

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Speaker 4: So that's the reality of the situation. Then you move

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Speaker 4: do to stop mass spread? Social events, sporting events, Each

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Speaker 1: Does again?

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Speaker 3: Sounded so intelligent this morning, and you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know what, right when you finish your medical degree,

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Speaker 3: you are going to be You've got such a real future.

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Speaker 1: Were really appreciate the block.

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