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Speaker 2: The true history of the Kelly Gang. This movie is

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Speaker 3: I have myself an indungent servant named Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Is his name?

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Speaker 3: Make a name for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's how unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: That's Harry Power. And the man who plays Harry Power

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Speaker 1: is Russell Crowe twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Rusty.

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Speaker 4: You know what fits. When I was on text with

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Speaker 4: Russell before I saw the show, he said, make sure

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Speaker 4: you get two bottles of red wine. Open the first one,

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Speaker 4: make your way through it because the film, the film

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Speaker 2: Russell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty powerful lon interpretation of the story.

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Speaker 1: So this is an interpretation from Peter Carey, who wrote

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Speaker 1: can we just can you explain to people, Russell, because

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Speaker 1: this is not a true history, is it. I Mean,

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Speaker 2: For men out there. Russ.

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Speaker 1: We have to say congratulations as well on the Golden Globe, mate,

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Speaker 3: Russ Well, it seemed to have a really good effect

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Speaker 1: you going obviously are you still in Australia? You're not

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Speaker 1: going to that russ Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to miss that one too, you know this

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Speaker 3: time of the year. Man, you know, it's just it's

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Speaker 3: difficult for me to engage in that stuff. As you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm divorced now, you know, and like many other blokes

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Speaker 3: limited time with my children, wake up with them every

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Speaker 3: December twenty seventh and January fifteenth. So if you expect

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Speaker 3: me to do anything anything, I don't give a ship

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Speaker 3: what it is in that time that doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: acquiescence and agreement and includes my children. Well, you can

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Speaker 3: go and you know whatever.

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Speaker 4: They can on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm moving a house this week and I was

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Speaker 2: gonna ask if you're going to help Russ but obviously that.

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Speaker 4: Well, Russell, if you're I mean, the kids, no doubt

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Speaker 4: will be in front of the TV. They will let

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Speaker 4: you know if you have won. I take it again,

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Speaker 4: they be watching it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they will. I think they're you know,

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Speaker 3: they're back now in Sydney and doing other stuff, and

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Speaker 3: I probably I don't think the screen actors skills going

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Speaker 3: to be high on their priority.

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Speaker 2: Hey do you know what's high on our priority? Twenty

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Speaker 2: years later, this year, Gladiated to God. How do you

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Speaker 2: celebrate that? Do you send that into the DVD? Playing

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Speaker 2: with the kids for the four hundred time?

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Speaker 3: What's they've ever seen it? Actually start? My little one

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Speaker 3: wanted to see it a long time ago, when he

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Speaker 3: was about four or five. Yeah, And so I put

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Speaker 3: it on for him. We're actually up on the farm

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Speaker 3: at and twenty minutes later he was back in the

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Speaker 3: house and I like, well that happens you know. And

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Speaker 3: my mother asked him and said, I you're watching Dad's

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Speaker 3: movie and he goes, oh, Grandma, it's terrible.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And Dad's really angry with people and he's like yelling

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Speaker 5: And Gladiator it's not a love story. So our youngest

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his close review wasn't positive.

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Speaker 2: Oh that is that is just gold. That is gold. Well, mate,

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Speaker 2: it's great today. It's great to hear your voice. We

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Speaker 2: know how busy you are.

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Speaker 1: And mate, the loudest voice is only on stan as well,

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Speaker 1: but congratulations. The True History of the Kelly Gang for

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Speaker 1: anyone only on Standard Premier's Australia DA.

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Speaker 2: It's in cinemas now.

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Speaker 1: But Harry Power, he's an interesting character in this Russell, you're.

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Speaker 2: Playing very well. And I think this is a movie

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Speaker 2: that every Australian has to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it examines the way we look at things.

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Speaker 3: I think it sort of, you know, puts it in

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Speaker 3: front of us that we don't really know what went on.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we can celebrate him as as a

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Speaker 3: figure and all that, but we should have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a dip understanding because there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: other people whose lives were, you know, either finished or

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Speaker 3: very negatively effect did by his actions.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just quickly just before you go as well,

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Speaker 1: rabbit ized story as well. I mean Latrell Mitchell, the

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Speaker 1: sit down that you had Packer and also that must

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Speaker 1: have been special.

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Speaker 2: What did what was what was on the menu that night? Russ?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was that was an interesting situation because I

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Speaker 3: already had a houseful of guests, and then that kind

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Speaker 3: of two things started happening earlier in that getting text

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Speaker 3: about them, the Latrell thing, because we've been pursuing Latrell,

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Speaker 3: not you know, directly or heart or whatever, but the

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Speaker 3: idea of Latrell since she came on the scene. It's

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Speaker 3: like that guy's a South Sydney player. He's in the

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Speaker 3: wrong jersey. I'd hear him talk and stuff like that

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Speaker 3: about his pride and being an indigenous man and what

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Speaker 3: South Sydney man. Yeah, And it was kind of a

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Speaker 3: cycle of time he's landed where he should be, you know.

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Speaker 3: And but that particular week then I had Gold medalists,

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Speaker 3: and I had all these different people in my house.

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Speaker 3: I started getting these texts, so it was very much

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Speaker 3: an air traffic control week, where you know, I'm landing,

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Speaker 3: Jamie coming coming in and that was completely coincidental. But

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Speaker 3: Jamie Packer happened to be at the farm. But Jamie

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Speaker 3: was coming because he wanted to have a drink to

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Speaker 3: celebrate recent successes, and Latrell was coming because he wants

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Speaker 3: to have a serious conversation about his future, and he's

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Speaker 3: bringing his dad. It's two completely different. But I had

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Speaker 3: I actually went and I spent quite a bit of

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Speaker 3: Jamie just came for a couple of hours in the

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Speaker 3: afternoon and we had a lovely conversation as a group together.

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Speaker 3: Jamie and I worked very well together with the South

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Speaker 3: Sydney's situation because he basically just leaves me to make

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Speaker 3: the decisions, you know. But the next morning, Latrell and

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Speaker 3: I got up early and we went out in the

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Speaker 3: but you know, it was very clear to both of

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Speaker 3: us that, you know, the style of what we do itself,

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Speaker 3: where there's no bullshit, there's no mystery, there's nothing happening

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Speaker 3: on the shadows. We don't do, you know, backdoor deals

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Speaker 3: and secret handshakes, none of that. You know, we're just

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Speaker 3: very straightforward. And I think it was kind of a

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Speaker 3: relief to him to be in a situation where he

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Speaker 3: and his family, you know, as opposed to how many

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Speaker 2: He's saying out with Russell's kid. No, No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: Really not like he's just going to take things as

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Speaker 3: they are.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: What I was impressed by was, you know, when dinner finished,

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Speaker 3: he spent about an hour at the dinner table talking

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Speaker 3: to my parents. You know, he gave up that respect

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Speaker 3: which comes out of his culture. And it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you can. As I think I

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Speaker 3: said at the time, it's like when people talk about

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Speaker 3: terms of pride in his culture, etcetera, etcetera as a negative,

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Speaker 3: It's like, I don't hear that at all. You know,

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Speaker 3: a rightfully confident young man who has self belief also

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Speaker 3: is fully aware of what his community faces in general,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to try and do something about it.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I also hear a natural leadership in

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Speaker 3: his voice and all of these elements that he has

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Speaker 3: in our system with our coach Wayne Bennett, with the

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Speaker 3: with exactly the right place for la. Tell Mitchell to

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Speaker 3: progress World.

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Speaker 1: On russ Worlds World on you good luck. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. Russell and Mate will speak to you again

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Speaker 1: very very soon.

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Speaker 3: Cheuth books no I Vae.

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