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Speaker 1: This is the Fits and With with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the best comeback when somebody's

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Speaker 1: yelling at you. I think whipper you said that I

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Speaker 1: was going to give you a few terms to win

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Speaker 1: a win an argument or maybe silence silence someone who's

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Speaker 1: having a go at you. Look, I tend to go

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Speaker 1: with the old if somebody is upset and it's not

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Speaker 1: somebody I know, although somebody sometimes it's somebody I know.

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Speaker 1: At the end of a conversation on the phone, I'll say,

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Speaker 1: have a nice day because I just think you're kiz love,

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Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, what we all know

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Speaker 1: is when someone's really angry and they want to engage

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Speaker 1: and they're not afraid of confrontation, the fact that they're

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Speaker 1: met with patients and somebody almost making fun of them,

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Speaker 1: that really revs them up. Yeah, there's a there's this

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Speaker 1: There's this guy. He is a trial lawyer, Jefferson Fisher.

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Speaker 1: I think he comes out of the US and he's

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Speaker 1: written a book, you know, how to argue, argue less,

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Speaker 1: and talk more. He's got all of these followers on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: He's he's posted that how you should respond when somebody

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Speaker 1: is yelling at you, he explains, So number one, you

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Speaker 1: need to instead of raising your voice and shouting something

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Speaker 1: like don't yell at me, you know, or whatever it

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Speaker 1: is that you want to do, stop yelling at me.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you like anyway? You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, don't you don't you yell, but

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Speaker 1: I'll yell back at you. You're going this is what

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Speaker 1: you're going to do. You are going to calmly use

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Speaker 1: the phrase I don't respond to that volume and maybe

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Speaker 1: say it's some something like that. Maybe maybe shake your

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Speaker 1: head at the same time. Oh, I don't respond to

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Speaker 1: that volume. That's sarcastic in itself. I don't think it is.

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Speaker 1: It's adding a boundary. I'm actually not going to engage

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Speaker 1: in this conversation if you're going to speak to me

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Speaker 1: like that. What if I what if I brought the

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Speaker 1: volume down? Can you try me? You show me how

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Speaker 1: if I'm yelling at you, if it's get your well,

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Speaker 1: what if I said to you? What if I went

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Speaker 1: kate your bloody indicator? Okay, all right, road right, I

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Speaker 1: am using my indicator. Thank you for pointing that out.

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Speaker 1: It's not me lowering lowering the level. No, aren't you

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Speaker 1: then supposed to say, I don't respond to that, that's me,

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Speaker 1: that's I am. Just remember the laying for the top

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Speaker 1: guys television, and you still can't pick up And I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is live, this is live radio. I'm used to

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Speaker 1: being able to do three or four takes. No, you

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Speaker 1: are you said? You said the boundary I don't respond

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Speaker 1: to the volume. Number two is that you lower your volume,

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Speaker 1: so you kind of saying, come on, meet me where

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Speaker 1: I'm at. And his quote is just give it a

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Speaker 1: little haircut. I suggest, don't say to anyone, just give

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Speaker 1: it a little haircut. I then when well, then I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't hear you. I suppose that the indicator would be

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Speaker 1: louder than you. And if I whispered it into your neck,

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Speaker 1: is that a bit that would be creepy? And that

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Speaker 1: would that would indicate that we may be married? And

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Speaker 1: don't tell me how to drive the money. Number three,

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Speaker 1: The slower you speak, the more confident you're going to sound.

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Speaker 1: So one trick is to add pauses around the verb.

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Speaker 1: Look up what a verb is? Whip in this case,

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Speaker 1: respond I don't respond to that volume, lower to speak,

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Speaker 1: and then you take back all of the controls. So

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Speaker 1: maybe take that into your workday today. If you're going

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Speaker 1: to have a challenging conversation with some body, I'm just

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Speaker 1: what have you got response? I don't respond to that volume.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to say that to BJ all day

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Speaker 1: to day. Get back to us on that one. It's

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