WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 7 August

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<v Speaker 1>On scorn US Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Wader Panalkey Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening and welcome to the reader. Panekey Show. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight is Google's left wing bias impacting democracy in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Wilde joins me to discuss. Also joining me tonight

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Douglas Murray on the real reasons behind the

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<v Speaker 3>UK riot and the cowdese of authorities to address the

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<v Speaker 3>root issues. Army Horowitz will have the latest from the

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<v Speaker 3>US as Kamala Harris picks a radical socialist as her

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<v Speaker 3>running mate, and later in the hour, doctor Joanna Howe

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<v Speaker 3>on the contentious issue of late term abortions and we

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<v Speaker 3>never forget left he is losing it. Tonight's starring Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>a list of Ben Stiller, and the Veep makes yet

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<v Speaker 3>another appearance as a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a balance to be struck between being tough

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<v Speaker 4>and be.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's bring in Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of

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<v Speaker 3>Public Affairs, Dan Wilde. Dan will start with the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>He's keen to have some of that Olympic glory rub

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<v Speaker 3>off on him. He posted a video on x of

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<v Speaker 3>a FaceTime conversation with some of our Olympic stars in Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>Albo's dog Toto also made an appearance.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey everyone, breaking from Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been getting up very early here.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see my little friend here that she's collapsed.

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<v Speaker 4>Case of late nights, but very early morning.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we know air Bus loves and overseas Jawn,

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<v Speaker 3>So he must be concerned about Labour's fortunes if he's

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<v Speaker 3>decided to not make the trip to Paris for the Games.

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<v Speaker 3>The latest Guardian Essential Pole shows the pems apperival rating

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<v Speaker 3>has dipped to eight new low. His net approval rating

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<v Speaker 3>is minus nine, the lowest since he came to power

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<v Speaker 3>back in May twenty twenty two. What do you think

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<v Speaker 3>of that little clip? Wholesome fun, I think, But will

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<v Speaker 3>he be worried about this Essential Pole? It is seen

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<v Speaker 3>as a left leaning pole and even that isn't good

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<v Speaker 3>news for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think he will be worried about it, There's

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<v Speaker 6>no doubt about that. I think he comes across as

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<v Speaker 6>a bit inauthentic when he inserts himself. I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>he's fan income. When Bob Hawk was getting behind the

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<v Speaker 6>America's Kapa, when John Howard was in his track suit

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<v Speaker 6>at the Olympics, people knew it was from a place

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<v Speaker 6>of authenticity that these were genuine sports lovers. Alban Easy.

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<v Speaker 6>It just doesn't come across as authentic on those things.

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<v Speaker 6>And clearly they're concerned about the declining poll numbers. So

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<v Speaker 6>the big question really for the coalition though, is even

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<v Speaker 6>as labor goes down, are people going to go from

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<v Speaker 6>labor to liberal or are they going to park their

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<v Speaker 6>vote with a third party?

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<v Speaker 5>That's the big question.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you would think it. It'd be more at home.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, at a music festival or at summer

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<v Speaker 3>pub band that seems to be more is seen than

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<v Speaker 3>sporting events, but I could be wrong there. Talk about

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Olympics, they're having all sorts of issues there.

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<v Speaker 3>The athletes are complaining. One swimmer, Adam Peaty from the

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<v Speaker 3>British team, has told I News that the athletes there

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<v Speaker 3>are finding worms in their food and also we've had

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of criticism about the meals, not just the

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<v Speaker 3>worms but the fact that their plant based the athletes

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<v Speaker 3>aren't getting enough protein. Dan they've complained about the beds,

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of air conditioning. It's not easy being green.

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<v Speaker 3>They've tried to make these games environmentally friendly, and the

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<v Speaker 3>athletes are suffering.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think plant based is French for lacking flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>The issue is, Look, if you want to be vegan,

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<v Speaker 6>that's fine, but it's being forced upon the athletes. They

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<v Speaker 6>need high protein, nutritious, dense meals so they can be

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<v Speaker 6>their best in whatever sport they're competing, and they're there

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<v Speaker 6>to win medals, to set records, to achieve excellence, and

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<v Speaker 6>instead we have this ideological agenda that's being imposed upon them.

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<v Speaker 6>We saw the opening ceremony, which is a showcase in ideology.

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<v Speaker 6>It's overshadowed the entire games. We've got the vegan issue,

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<v Speaker 6>We've got the beds which are made out of cardboard boxes,

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<v Speaker 6>people sleeping on park benches that they have to sleep

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<v Speaker 6>on the beds. So look, I think the Olympics just

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be focused on the sports, the athletes and

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<v Speaker 6>the support staff who are there to do their best.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't even mention the x Y boxes fighting the women.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be speaking to Douglas Murray about that later. Now

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about big tech tyranny. It's a big news

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<v Speaker 3>item in the US, but we're starting to see some

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<v Speaker 3>awayeness in Australia, not much, but just some awareness of

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<v Speaker 3>how dangerous it is to have Google have a virtual monopoly.

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<v Speaker 3>Google earlier this year had to apologize for the extreme

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<v Speaker 3>left wing bias of its AI platform, and in the

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<v Speaker 3>past week it came under fire again for failing to

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<v Speaker 3>reduce search results on the assassination attempt on Donald Trumble,

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<v Speaker 3>for the search results to be all completely warped. You

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<v Speaker 3>search for a Donald Trump rally and you get Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris good news stories. So some of that is hard

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<v Speaker 3>to explain. They've tried to address it, it seems, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no reason to believe that local search results aren't

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<v Speaker 3>being similarly impacted by that bias. South Australian Senator Alex

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<v Speaker 3>Antique told The Australian newspaper very few people truly understand

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<v Speaker 3>the enormous effect that the tech sector has on our

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<v Speaker 3>daily lives, and that needs to change. He makes an

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<v Speaker 3>excellent point there. This is how people find information, this

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<v Speaker 3>is how they communicate. Google has become a verb. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not just a company, and it is not a straight

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<v Speaker 3>down the middle company. It is highly political and when

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<v Speaker 3>you're the search engine. More than ninety percent of people

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<v Speaker 3>use that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a big problem. Sen An antics ahead of the

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<v Speaker 6>curve on this one, as he is on so many

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<v Speaker 6>other issues. There's no doubt that Google and big tech

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<v Speaker 6>have been seeking to influence the outcomes of democratic processes

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<v Speaker 6>in Australia and across the Western world. We saw that

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<v Speaker 6>with the Voice to Parliament debate. You know, big tech

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<v Speaker 6>was censoring the opinions of the note case day in,

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<v Speaker 6>day out.

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<v Speaker 3>We know the story quickly on meta on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram where they were running those bogus fact checks and

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<v Speaker 3>x you had a bit more freedom, but certainly Facebook,

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<v Speaker 3>which seems to still be predominantly the main social media

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<v Speaker 3>platform in Australia, the bias there was stark.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's right, and as you point out, with Google,

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<v Speaker 6>it's the overwhelming majority in terms of who uses It's

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<v Speaker 6>basically a virtual shopfront, so most people will Google something

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<v Speaker 6>rather than typing in in a web address itself. So

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<v Speaker 6>the way that Google alters its algorithm is foundational to

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<v Speaker 6>the information flows through our democracy and I'm deeply concerned

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<v Speaker 6>about the bias that we know exists at Google.

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<v Speaker 3>Now on that big tech front, ex owner Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 3>is suing a cartel of advertisers and ad agencies who

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<v Speaker 3>have blocked ad revenue from going to certain platforms and

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<v Speaker 3>content creators. They say it's an illegal boycott, excess filed

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<v Speaker 3>and antitrust lawsuit against the World Federation of Advertisers and

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<v Speaker 3>the Global Alliance for Responsible Media and its members including

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<v Speaker 3>giants like Mars and Unilever. This is a bold move.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk said, we tried peace for two years and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's all out war. Can you see ramifications for

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<v Speaker 3>content creators and perhaps something like this we'll see some

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<v Speaker 3>of those big players change their ways.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I hope so. I mean this is a warning

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<v Speaker 6>shot against the cartel of corporations that want to sensor debate.

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<v Speaker 6>This is just another way they go about it. We

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<v Speaker 6>know that the corporations we're just talking about big tech,

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<v Speaker 6>they don't want to debate things. They want to censor

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<v Speaker 6>and stop debate from taking place. And one of the

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<v Speaker 6>ways they're going to do that is by pulling revenue

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<v Speaker 6>from Twitter. Now, look, you can argue that, well, they're

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<v Speaker 6>private companies and it's their choice as to where they

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<v Speaker 6>put their money, and that's true to an extent. But

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<v Speaker 6>when they're cartelling as a block to achieve a political

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<v Speaker 6>outcome rather than a commercial outcome. I think, at worst

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<v Speaker 6>it's a debatable proposition. At best, I think that Elon's

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<v Speaker 6>probably got a pretty strong case.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, these don't seem to be commercial decisions, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now police are investigating reports of an assault and incidents

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<v Speaker 3>of criminal damage to a pub in Birmingham. This is

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK after a group of balaklava clad men

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<v Speaker 3>holding Palestinian flags seen on video beating up pub goers

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<v Speaker 3>at the Clumsy Swan Pub. Meanwhile, the media has also

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<v Speaker 3>been targeted. Tires have allegedly been slashed and news crews

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<v Speaker 3>have been intimidated. Despite the press in the UK blaming

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<v Speaker 3>the violence on just one side, here is Sky News

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<v Speaker 3>UK having to cut a cross short after the journalist

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<v Speaker 3>was surrounded by angry protesters becausehonephone.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, apologies for the language you're hearing, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can Katie. I think, Becky, I apologize,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to leave you there, and Becky, we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>security there and we will leave it. And I apologize

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<v Speaker 1>once again for the language there.

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<v Speaker 3>Should be, apologizing for the selective two tier reporting we've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying. I'll be talking to Douglas Murray about that

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<v Speaker 3>in just a couple of minutes. But Dan, there are

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<v Speaker 3>lessons to be learned from this unrest. If we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want in this country to go down the path the

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<v Speaker 3>UK have and make the mistakes they've obviously.

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<v Speaker 6>Made, well we will be unless there's dramatic corrective action.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the UK is Australia's future unless we get

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<v Speaker 6>in control of our migration program and until we have

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<v Speaker 6>leadership that is actually trying to achieve social cohesion rather

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<v Speaker 6>than dividing us. This is the government that put up

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<v Speaker 6>the voice to Parliament to divide us by race, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's ignited the flame of division in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>So we need to have proper leadership to unite us

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<v Speaker 6>rather than the division that we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan will thank you so much for your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me now is best selling author Douglas Murray. Douglas,

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<v Speaker 3>let's start with the UK riots Kissed Darma. The police,

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<v Speaker 3>the media have all been clear who they blame for

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<v Speaker 3>the unrest. The far right, they say, fueled by disinformation online.

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<v Speaker 3>There's even suggestions of banning platforms like x and cracking

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<v Speaker 3>down further on free speech is that the answer to

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<v Speaker 3>what we are seeing, which are really clearly deep underlying

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<v Speaker 3>issues and communities across the country, from well places like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Rotherham, Middlesbrough,

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<v Speaker 3>London and even as far as Belfast in Northern Ireland.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, this all started after a young man seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>year old, stabbed death three girls at a Taylor swift

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<v Speaker 5>Fing dance party in the town of Southport and the

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<v Speaker 5>sense clearly and immediate aftermath of that, this is an observation,

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<v Speaker 5>was that the authorities were with holding the identity of

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<v Speaker 5>the suspect. Now there are some reasons why they might

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<v Speaker 5>do that, but obviously tensions locally were extremely high, feelings

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<v Speaker 5>were extremely high, and the way to try to control

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<v Speaker 5>the information obviously completely backfired as you would expect it to,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's led to these riots across city after city

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<v Speaker 5>in the UK. It's extremely disturbing, these riots of themselves

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<v Speaker 5>provoked counter riots where identifiably Muslim young men, some armed,

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<v Speaker 5>have been also shown on camera attacking people in the

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<v Speaker 5>streets and this is really just.

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<v Speaker 8>A completely appalling and I'm sorry to say, this completely

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<v Speaker 8>predictable situation. Indeed, I can say it's predictable because I

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<v Speaker 8>said exactly this sort of thing would start happening seven

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<v Speaker 8>years ago or so in my book The Strange Death

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<v Speaker 8>of Europe. It's horrible to be proved right in side

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<v Speaker 8>circumstances because you don't want to be proved right about

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<v Speaker 8>something like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Want people to listen and change their policies. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the last few days have shown the Labor government refusing

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<v Speaker 5>to concede that there is anything other than what they

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<v Speaker 5>call far right violence going on. They claim that there

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<v Speaker 5>isn't a two tier policing system in the UK, which

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<v Speaker 5>everybody with their own eyes can see is not the case. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 5>there is a two tier policing system in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>These areas where this has happened in. What's more, all

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<v Speaker 5>areas where there were riots in twenty and eleven, And

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<v Speaker 5>as I write in the Spectator this week, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the interesting things about that is that all of these

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<v Speaker 5>areas are, among other things, areas where migration has continued

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<v Speaker 5>to increase and joblessness has gone up. Now, just think

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<v Speaker 5>of those two factors anyone watching. You keep forcing immrogration

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<v Speaker 5>onto these areas and you do nothing to improve the

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<v Speaker 5>lot in these areas. Of course, nobody should be on

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<v Speaker 5>the streets. The unbelievable hooliganism and thuggery of recent days

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<v Speaker 5>should repel everybody. But you know, very often when there

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<v Speaker 5>is some kind of violence or unrest, we hear political

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<v Speaker 5>leaders and the ways heads in the commentariat saying we

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<v Speaker 5>need to address underlying causes. Why has nobody said that

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<v Speaker 5>in recent days?

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<v Speaker 3>And you're so right, Remember the media coverage in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>and eleven very different to what we're seeing now, and

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<v Speaker 3>also throughout the BLM unrest that we saw not too

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<v Speaker 3>long ago. Again, there was a great deal of sympathy

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<v Speaker 3>for those who were behaving violently and certainly weren't peacefully protesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there are various segments of the left in the

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<v Speaker 3>UK blaming x formerly Twitter for inciting violence. But Douglas,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the few places where you can see

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<v Speaker 3>what is happening on the ground that that media spin.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, Reta. I mean, I've just seen a report

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<v Speaker 5>from another so called mainstream channel in the UK where

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<v Speaker 5>the quite clearly the journalists are trying not to reveal

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<v Speaker 5>part of the story. What they're trying to not reveal

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<v Speaker 5>is what they call Asian men in the area, intimidating

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<v Speaker 5>and harassing journalists. Well, these aren't you know. Once again

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<v Speaker 5>you get back to the endless euphemism and lying that

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<v Speaker 5>is just prevalent across our media. These are not you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Hong Kong residents who have decided to go out and

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<v Speaker 5>threaten people. They are regrettably organized Muslim groups and you

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<v Speaker 5>know they're being whipped up by people presumably in their community,

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<v Speaker 5>but also by left wing and other activists, obviously by

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<v Speaker 5>the people on the street as well to come out

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<v Speaker 5>in force. Now, the idea that the answer to that

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<v Speaker 5>is the crack down on Twitter x is apps case

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<v Speaker 5>study of the failure of the political class in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember in twenty seventeen when three Muslim men went

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<v Speaker 5>across London Bridge slitting people's throats and shouting this is

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<v Speaker 5>for Allah, and the Mayor of London and the then

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<v Speaker 5>Prime Minister Theresa May came out and said that this

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<v Speaker 5>is we need to address online radicalization, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>then Teresa May set up an somebody to look into

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<v Speaker 5>the definition of extremism. You know, what have they actually

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<v Speaker 5>done in all of these years, Absolutely nothing, And it'll

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<v Speaker 5>be the same with this. They'll they'll lock some people up,

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<v Speaker 5>and they will demonize all sorts of people, and they'll

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<v Speaker 5>cover for others, but they will do nothing to address this.

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<v Speaker 5>The British public have been begging for years for consecutive

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<v Speaker 5>governments to bring down immigration and to increase opportunities in

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<v Speaker 5>the UK. Not only were they not listened too, they

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<v Speaker 5>were reviled, insulted and much more. And you know it

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<v Speaker 5>also needs to be said, each of the towns in

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<v Speaker 5>which these awful riots have been occurring are all places

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<v Speaker 5>that are resonant with huge crimes that were covered up

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<v Speaker 5>by almost everybody in authority. I'm thinking of the well again,

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<v Speaker 5>what are called the grooming gangs, But are the rape

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<v Speaker 5>gangs which struck in Rotherham, in Rochdale, in town after

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<v Speaker 5>town whose names are back in the news now And

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<v Speaker 5>obviously there's no excuse to the rioting. Why does nobody

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<v Speaker 5>in government and a labor government at that not listen

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<v Speaker 5>to these people at least find out what has gone

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<v Speaker 5>so badly wrong in these areas that reports of who

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<v Speaker 5>carried out this atrocity in Southport at the dance class

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<v Speaker 5>for children, that that could ignite a country. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>suggest to me that the country is in a healthy step.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and I think trust in institutions, including the police

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<v Speaker 3>and media are going to plummet further after this episode. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about the Olympic boxing scandal involving two males

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<v Speaker 3>with x Y chromosomes who are being allowed to punch

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<v Speaker 3>on with real women at the Paris Games hasn't escaped

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<v Speaker 3>Durr attention. This week, he wrote in The New York

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<v Speaker 3>Post about the IOC's failures and how young women who

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<v Speaker 3>have worked tirelessly to reach the pinnacle of their sport

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<v Speaker 3>are having their dreams dashed and douglas. Whether it's by

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<v Speaker 3>men who transition like Leah Thomas, or in the case

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<v Speaker 3>of these two boxes, males with x Y chromosomes who,

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<v Speaker 3>due to having disorders in sex development were raised as girls,

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<v Speaker 3>were observed to be girls when they were born. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like in these two cases, in in any of

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<v Speaker 3>the circumstance, it's just grossly unfair for real women. There

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<v Speaker 3>are differences between men and women. That's why we have

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<v Speaker 3>two separate categories. And if someone has an x Y chromosome,

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<v Speaker 3>they should not, in my mind, be allowed anywhere. You're

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<v Speaker 3>a woman's competition.

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<v Speaker 5>No and it's just extraordinary that we've got here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's more than I think. It's eleven years now since

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Rogan identified this problem in mma fighting, where a

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<v Speaker 5>man who transitioned into being a woman and who worked

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<v Speaker 5>was in the US Navy and then, by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>worked as a trucker to save up money for the

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<v Speaker 5>sex change operation, went into female mma fighting and was

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, punching the hell out of the women

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<v Speaker 5>that he was competing against. And that's eleven years ago

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<v Speaker 5>since that scandal blew up. And as you know, all

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<v Speaker 5>this is so connected, isn't it. Reader, Either there's the

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<v Speaker 5>reality and you accept it, or you're made to just

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<v Speaker 5>go along with something that is just unsustainable. It is

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<v Speaker 5>not sustainable for men to be put in a ring

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<v Speaker 5>with women in boxing competitions and not be expected to

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<v Speaker 5>beat the hell out of the woman in question. And

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<v Speaker 5>then obviously any same person would say, aren't we against

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<v Speaker 5>men beating up women for sport or anything else? And

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<v Speaker 5>the answer is yes, except apparently at the Olympic Games.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is just the sort of thing that deranges

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<v Speaker 5>a society. About the only laugh I've got this week

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<v Speaker 5>was when you know, noticed that the I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was in the pole vaulting that there was a gentleman

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<v Speaker 5>who's who's who's How can I say this politely whose

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<v Speaker 5>member was somewhat large and not tucked in and cause

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<v Speaker 5>a certain problem for him and much amusement for others.

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<v Speaker 5>But I was pleased to see yesterday a cartoon of

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<v Speaker 5>somebody reporting this and the man's wife says, is that

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<v Speaker 5>the men's pole vaulting or the women's pole vaulting only

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<v Speaker 5>only in the Olympics in twenty twenty four. Would you

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<v Speaker 5>have to ask that question? The whole thing is absurd,

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<v Speaker 5>and I do hope the IOC looks at this again.

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<v Speaker 5>It's totally unfair anyone. And I know again we're not

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<v Speaker 5>meant to mention anything that's in front of our eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyone who knows anything about male and female development

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<v Speaker 5>knows that even if you go onto some kind of

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<v Speaker 5>hormone drug at some stage, if you've gone through development

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<v Speaker 5>as a teenager, as a man, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have larger hands, larger shoulder shoulders, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>a different bone density, you're going to have much more strength,

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<v Speaker 5>all sorts of things. And it's just the fact, so

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose decent people have to decide, do we actually

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<v Speaker 5>want to encourage a delusion to rule over everything or

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<v Speaker 5>can we just get some sanity back?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the ISA a limp level, any elite level. There

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<v Speaker 3>is just so much testing for illegal drugs. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why they just don't reinstate the gender testing, the

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<v Speaker 3>sex testing that they used to have before they decided

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<v Speaker 3>they're disgraceful, they're not politically correct. And then there is

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt whether someone has a disorder of sex development,

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<v Speaker 3>is inter sex, is a transitioned whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 3>If they've got x y chromosomes, they will be eliminated

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<v Speaker 3>from the women's competition. And we all know where we stand.

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<v Speaker 3>But the misinformation and the gas lighting we've seen this

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<v Speaker 3>week has been quite astonishing. Now, I've got to ask

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<v Speaker 3>you before you go about Kamala Harris and her choice

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<v Speaker 3>of running mate. Just picked the far left governor of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a man who made headlines for our signing

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<v Speaker 3>legislation to put tampons in boys restrooms in schools. He

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<v Speaker 3>backed the BLM rights even as they destray Minneapolis, and

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<v Speaker 3>who said he provide giant ladders. Douglas so illegal immigrants

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<v Speaker 3>could climb any wall Donald Trump built. This choice is astonishing.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you make of Tim Waltz as a future.

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<v Speaker 5>Veep Well, you know it's interesting when this happens, is

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<v Speaker 5>that the whole world's media attention turns onto Tim Watz.

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<v Speaker 5>And you've already listed some of the really I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, just indefensible things that he's done in his career.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, he will now pretend to be somebody else,

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<v Speaker 5>just as Carmela tries to pretend to be somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, remember the intense scrutiny of JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 5>once Trump nominated him as his VEEP choice. It was very,

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<v Speaker 5>very interesting because of course everybody goes over every single

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<v Speaker 5>little thing that Vance has ever said, and they find

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<v Speaker 5>something that offends some people and then they blow it up.

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<v Speaker 5>We should expect the same thing to be had hapening

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<v Speaker 5>with Tim Waltz in the coming days, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>if it does, but it ought to and you know

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<v Speaker 5>all of this stuff that you've just listed, the bananas,

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<v Speaker 5>stuff about tampons and boys' bathrooms, and the BLM riots

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<v Speaker 5>stuff and else. You know, if he tries to run

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<v Speaker 5>as a law and order candidate, I would expect him

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<v Speaker 5>to get a certain amount of pushback, but some of

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<v Speaker 5>the media being what it is, maybe we won't. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>he'll be able to reinvent himself, just as Kamla has

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<v Speaker 5>been able to reinvent herself as a sparklingly innovative, brilliant, successful,

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<v Speaker 5>dynamic and inspiring political leader who will lead the free

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<v Speaker 5>world in the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, I'm sure the media protection racket will be

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<v Speaker 3>in full swing. But just the fact that she did

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<v Speaker 3>not pick the most obvious candidate, which may have secured

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<v Speaker 3>her Pennsylvania, and it seems to be Douglas purely because

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<v Speaker 3>of fears that picking a Jewish man who has been

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<v Speaker 3>pro Israel was going to cause all sorts of divisions

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<v Speaker 3>within the Democrats, perhaps even see unrest at the Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>National Convention. I mean, the Democrats appear to have a

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<v Speaker 3>anti Semitism problem that runs a lot deeper than just

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<v Speaker 3>the squad.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, it's interesting. Josh Shapiro was the name

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<v Speaker 5>on everyone's lips. He's a very impressive politician, quite an

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<v Speaker 5>impressive politician, I should say. He did have to do

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<v Speaker 5>the full gravel when it turned out that at the

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<v Speaker 5>age of twenty, he had said that the Palestinians may

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<v Speaker 5>not want peace all that much. He rode that back

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<v Speaker 5>and apologized for being correct at the age of twenty

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<v Speaker 5>and made sure that he was now incorrect, and it

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<v Speaker 5>still didn't get him the nomination. Yes, I mean, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, is Tim Waltz able to bolster Kamala Harris's

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<v Speaker 5>credentials on foreign policy questions? You know we're going to see,

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<v Speaker 5>aren't we. But if there's any weakness there, I would

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<v Speaker 5>very hope, much hope that it would be exposed, as

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<v Speaker 5>it would on either side. You know, this is this

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<v Speaker 5>is ninety days left of this and as you know

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<v Speaker 5>and everyone watching those, these are long weeks at the

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<v Speaker 5>moment in which anything can happen. And three months is

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<v Speaker 5>a heck of a long time in Kamala world. And

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<v Speaker 5>we don't need her to explain to us quite how

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<v Speaker 5>long time can be.

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<v Speaker 3>Please not, Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your

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<v Speaker 3>time this evening. Thank you still to come a lefties

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<v Speaker 3>losing it And Armie Horrowitz joins me from the US,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got the down low on Kamala Harris's and

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<v Speaker 3>the people welcome back now. It's time for lefties losing it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're about to delve into the twisted world of Kamala's

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<v Speaker 3>veep pick. But first, remember when Ricky Gervaise told the

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood elite to not preach about politics, no one cares

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 3>about their warped views. But sadly they didn't listen. Here

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<v Speaker 3>is Hollywood a list Kamala fanboy and lefty losing it

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Stiller, And.

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<v Speaker 4>She's also an historic candidate. You know, it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the first woman president, and that's incredibly exciting. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she's Indian, she's black, she's everything you could be,

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<v Speaker 4>more than one thing. It's incredible. You know, I'm Jewish

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<v Speaker 4>and Irish. I wish i was black. Every white Jewish

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 4>guy wishes he was black.

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<v Speaker 3>A Jewish comic blindly following a party with an anti

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<v Speaker 3>Semitic problem that runs so deep that Kamala didn't pick

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<v Speaker 3>the well pretty much universally acknowledged best candidate, Josh Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 3>who could have helped her secure the crucial state of Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 3>where he is governor with a sixty sixty percent approval rating.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's Jewish, and that is a problem for the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>One that even CNN acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania, that's Governor Josh Shapiro has been discussed as one

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<v Speaker 2>of Harris's potential running mates. He also endorsed her tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>In your view, one of the pros and cons for

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<v Speaker 4>putting him on the ticket.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he's certainly under consideration. I know that from Key

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<v Speaker 5>Harris allies.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a first term governor, he's Jewish. There could be

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<v Speaker 2>some risks in putting him on the ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>And right he was. It's clear that the squad, the

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<v Speaker 3>mass wing of the party is calling the shots. And

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<v Speaker 3>did you notice Walls was not even on that list

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<v Speaker 3>that they had up there. He wasn't one of the

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<v Speaker 3>likely candidates. Even CNN thought he was too much of

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<v Speaker 3>a socialist simpleton to be considered. Talking about simpletons, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back to Ben Stiller embarrassing himself.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to let you know I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>match your one hundred and fifty thousand dollars donation. Everybody's

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 4>got to get out and vote and donate. Get out

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<v Speaker 4>there and vote and donate and like take advance. This

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<v Speaker 4>is such an important time right now, and this wave

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<v Speaker 4>of energy that's happening, We've got to keep going with it,

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<v Speaker 4>so please do everything you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, ben Stella has gone full Kamala. Never go full Kamala.

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't you just listen to Ricky Gervais. His advice was, sage.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't use it as a platform to make a political speech.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 5>You know nothing about the real world. Most of you

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 5>spent less time in school than Greta Thumberg, he told them.

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<v Speaker 3>Now to Kamala Harris. The media spin is in full

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 3>swing from the Democrats propaganda arm, but we keep on

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<v Speaker 3>earthing the real Karmala.

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<v Speaker 4>And as a woman, there is a balance to be

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<v Speaker 4>struck between being tough.

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<v Speaker 8>And turn that off.

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<v Speaker 3>She's so likable, isn't she talking about likable. Let's take

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 3>a look at Kamala's running mate, the man she has

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>chosen to be the next vice president, and her campaign

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<v Speaker 3>released this totally real and authentic video of that historic moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, this is Jim, it's Kamala here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Governor, good morning, madam Vice President.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to do this with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's do this together.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be my running mate and let's get this

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<v Speaker 2>thing on the road.

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<v Speaker 9>I would be honored. Madam Vice President.

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<v Speaker 3>You understand our country. You have dedicated yourself to our country.

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<v Speaker 3>He understands the country. The socialist governor of Minnesota, the

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<v Speaker 3>man who put tampons in boys' restrooms in schools, who

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<v Speaker 3>wants to allow teens and tweens to access medical transitioning

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<v Speaker 3>of their gender, who back the BLM rights even as

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<v Speaker 3>they destroyed Minneapolis and bed and who changed Minnesota's flag

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<v Speaker 3>to look a lot like the Somali flag. But they

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<v Speaker 3>swear that's just a coincidence. Minnesota is home to the

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<v Speaker 3>largest Somali population in the US, and other coincidence, obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is also the man who has pledged to

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<v Speaker 3>provide massive ladders so illegal immigrants can climb any wall

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump may build.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he talks about this wall.

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<v Speaker 9>I always say, let me know how high it is,

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<v Speaker 9>But it's twenty five feet, then I'll invest in the thirty

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<v Speaker 9>foot ladder factory.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how you stop this.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's the mayor who compares the dangerous failed doctrine

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 3>of socialism to being neighborly. But we can get out there,

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<v Speaker 3>reach out, make the case, and for one thing, don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever shay away from our progressive values. One person's socialism

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 3>is another person's neighborliness. Here is celebrating giving illegal immigrants

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<v Speaker 3>driver's licenses.

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<v Speaker 9>It's done, a packed room at the Saint Paul Armory,

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<v Speaker 9>erupted after the governor's signature, Meet the driver's license for

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<v Speaker 9>all a lot of the land.

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<v Speaker 3>And behind every male lefty losing it is an even

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>loopier woman losing it. And here is missus Gwen Waltz

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<v Speaker 3>saying that criminals should be given as many chances as

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<v Speaker 3>they need, having a chance every day. Thanks, how many

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<v Speaker 3>chances do you get?

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<v Speaker 7>My answer to that is as many chances as you need,

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<v Speaker 7>which doesn't really please those law and order people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, those awful law and order people who want to

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 3>put criminals in jail while your husband back those who

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<v Speaker 3>want to defund the police. Now cannot wait to get

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<v Speaker 3>my next guests in sights into the Harris Walls team.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you I've been praying she'd pick Walls.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think she'd be that foolish, But here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris has picked the radically left Minnesota governor who

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<v Speaker 3>encouraged and supported the the BLM rights even as Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 3>was turned into a healthscape. Just look at the damage

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and wild Walls encourage the protest as Kamala was raising

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<v Speaker 3>bail money for the Lawless Advance. What a team the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats have put together. Joining me now is journalist and

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<v Speaker 3>documentary filmmaker Army Horowitz. Army, what is your verdict of

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<v Speaker 3>Harris's running mate? The smart money was on the Pennsylvania governor.

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<v Speaker 3>But sadly, the modern Democrats have a growing anti Semitism problem,

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<v Speaker 3>and that looks to be the main reason he was overlooked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can imagine I may have a thought

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<v Speaker 2>or two on this particular topic. Look, I like Joshapiro.

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Joshpiro was a very talented politician. Look, it

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<v Speaker 2>helped he won because the Republicans put on a full

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>on crazy person against them. But look, he actually is

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<v Speaker 2>very talented at what he does and actually bounces out

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala complete and total political and competence. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been obviously an amazing pick, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>more shocking that they didn't pick him, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>picked Tim Walls. Look, the whole game is Pennsylvania, right,

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 2>That's the game. That's the whole game. Nate Silver said

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<v Speaker 2>that if you win Pennsylvania, there's an over ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance you'll win the election. They had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>choose the governor of Pennsylvania, who by the way, has

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<v Speaker 2>a sixty one percent approval rating inside the state. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it. Why didn't they do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Could it be he's a Jew? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the anti Semitism of the Democratic Party has

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<v Speaker 2>now manifested itself into a place that's going to cost

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<v Speaker 2>them the election. This is not me saying it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Jared Moscow, it's saying Democratic congress person. This is

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<v Speaker 2>de w Wassman Schultz saying it. This is the ever

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>handsome Jake Austen Klass saying it. These are Democratic Congress

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<v Speaker 2>people who are sat saying he wasn't picked because he

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<v Speaker 2>was a Jew. And guess what, reader, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>cost them the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can understand why Kamala would have wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid a civil war within the party. They've got the

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Democrats National convention coming up, and you would see protests there,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt if Shapiro was her running mate. And it

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 3>seems that the cowardice has taken over the party. They

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<v Speaker 3>are allowing these radical elements to call the shots. Even

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<v Speaker 3>after the humiliation that Josh Shapiro put himself through over

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<v Speaker 3>the last week or so Army, where he seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>be groveling to the anti Israeli forces within the party,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't enough. Is this going to be a red

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<v Speaker 3>pill moment for the Jewish community in the States, the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of whom have traditionally backed the Democrats. But as

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<v Speaker 3>you said, it's hard to deny that this decision was

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<v Speaker 3>invited by anything other than the fact that Shapiro is Jewish,

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<v Speaker 3>is proud to be Jewish, He's been pro Israel, He's

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<v Speaker 3>served in the IDF, and all of that seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be unacceptable to elements of the modern Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Look, I would love to say that this is,

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<v Speaker 2>in the way you put it, a red pillar mode

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<v Speaker 2>for Jews in this country. Unfortunately, I can guarantee you

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>it will not be the case. Look, I think Trump

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<v Speaker 2>will actually garner a larger percentage of thee than of

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the Jewish vote than any Republican since Reagan, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>beat Reagan, as he has done, by the way, with

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<v Speaker 2>other historical Democratic constituencies like the black community, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Hispanic community, because the issues that Jews care about are

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, the same issues an American cares about. Jews

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 2>care about inflation, immigration, they care about the economy, but

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<v Speaker 2>also they care about Israel, which has never really been

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<v Speaker 2>a believe or not. Israel has not been a top

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>ten Jewish issue for many, many years, not top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But October seventh, that a little bit. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>he will make progress in the Jewish vote, but not

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<v Speaker 2>a massively significant vote, not like what Trump had done

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<v Speaker 2>with the Hispanic community.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the hard left of the party are rejoicing. Elin

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<v Speaker 3>Omer was among the first to endorse Woll's selections. She's

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<v Speaker 3>posted this She was very very happy with that selection, indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>and the first squad member to lose a primary. Jamal Bowman,

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<v Speaker 3>well he's back smiling again and celebrating Waltz's selection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wolf's baby. Let's go to walts in the building.

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<v Speaker 7>Time to win in November, y'ard, Let's go hands on deck,

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<v Speaker 7>no staying at home, Let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Go na Ami. You said this decision could cost Harris

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<v Speaker 3>the election. Others say that the VP pick is almost irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think this one would have been a deciding factor.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously Pennsylvania is crucial, but could it cost her some

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<v Speaker 3>of those states where there are large Muslim populations that

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<v Speaker 3>are not very happy with someone who is pro Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. First of all, I got to hire Jamal Bowman

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<v Speaker 2>in my heype man. That guy knows how to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it when it comes to I'm a big, big fan

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<v Speaker 2>of at least not a big fan of his politics

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and him as a congressman, but a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>having express himselves with support somebody. Yeah, like I said before,

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<v Speaker 2>I think no, usually the VP pick will not win

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<v Speaker 2>you an election, but the vpick have cost you an election.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this might be one of the weird

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<v Speaker 2>things where it's not who we picked, but again it

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>was who he didn't pick. But look, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem with Tim Walt and the exposure of

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<v Speaker 2>his politics. This was a massive unforced error. It really

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<v Speaker 2>did tip the hand of Kamala's because look, everyone thought,

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<v Speaker 2>like you and I did when we went to sleep,

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>that she was going to pick somebody moderate to balance

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>out the Republican attacks on her being a radical, but

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>she doubled down on that radicalism. I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>a massive mistake. Look, when Bertie Sanders supports you and

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Jamal Bowman and Alan Jomar, I think he may have

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a problem, right, I think that might be a bad

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 2>sign as to where things are headed electorally. Look, Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz is a problem. I can go through it. I

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to spend too much time going through the

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>issues he's got, but I'll go through a few of

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<v Speaker 2>them and make a couple of notes. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy who signed one hundred and four executive

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<v Speaker 2>orders during COVID that when the riots, when they were

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<v Speaker 2>burning down his city, he said, this represents decades of

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<v Speaker 2>pain and anguishes, essentially saying excusing the riots when immigration

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<v Speaker 2>is the single largest issue or the second largest issue

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in our country today, he wanted to issue drivers life

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 2>into illegal immigrants. This is a problem. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you one personal story about me and in Minnesota. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, they not to mention the fact they

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<v Speaker 2>picked a guy who's the governor of a state that

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans have one in fifty years, right, this is

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>not a purple state. But when I was at around

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<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis during the riots, let me tell you what

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I saw. I saw a city burning down, and the

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>police doing nothing standing around watching the city burn. But Rita,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 2>when I was walking around during the daytime when the

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>riots were because the riots were having at night, and

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't wearing a mask. I didn't wear a mask outsides.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a stupid person, you know what. The police

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>came right up to me and said, hey, man, you

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 2>gotta put your mask on. That represents Tim Waltz right there,

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a COVID era policies are now the now

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 3>why they're can to attack him. But my gosh, there

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 3>are so many areas, the trans policies. He mentioned illegal immigration,

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>He's all over the shop. But he's been one of

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 3>these Democrats who's been pushing the JD vance is weird line.

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>He made a reference to it in his first speech

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>as the rival vice presidential candidate. You know it, you

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>feel it.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 9>These guys are creepy and yes, just weird as hell.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 5>That's what you see, That's what you see.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 3>How effective is that line?

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 4>Are me?

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Because, as we've discussed, as a man who put tampons

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<v Speaker 3>in boys' bathrooms in schools across this date and supports

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of radical fringe dwelling policies. Is he

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<v Speaker 3>any position to be calling anyone else weird?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not very effective. Look, I'm not the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>fan of Jenny Vance as a vice presidential pick. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was okay, I'm not a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 2>a number of his populous economic policies, his pseudo istelationism.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see, he's weird. Okay. He was a marine,

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 2>he was a successful entrepreneur. He came from a completely underprivileged,

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<v Speaker 2>oppressed background to go to Yale. Is that weird? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if If that's weird, I think people

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<v Speaker 2>should should emulate that. But let me tell you, Rita,

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<v Speaker 2>what is weird? What's weird? When you want MSNBC and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody says that you know what he really wants? What

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<v Speaker 2>JD Vance wants? We're talking about cat ladies and neo natalism.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants white babies. Really a man who is married

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<v Speaker 2>to a brown woman who has three brown kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's pushing for for white babies. You know what, Rida,

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<v Speaker 2>that's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That is weird. And jd Vance himself has responded to

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<v Speaker 3>the lift's collective attempts to smear him as weird and

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<v Speaker 3>he's pointed the finger right back at them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like the people who call me weird want to

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<v Speaker 9>give like hormone therapies and sterilized nine year olds. Like

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's a lot weirder, you know, me just

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<v Speaker 9>like living a normal life with my kids and my wife.

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<v Speaker 9>But this is what they do, I think, as they

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<v Speaker 9>latch onto a message and they try to sell it

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<v Speaker 9>even if it's fake.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes an excellent point there, because you look at

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 3>his family life, you look at it seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>one of the few politicians who seems to actually have

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<v Speaker 3>a happy, healthy marriage, three beautiful children, and like you

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 3>just explained, he lived the American dream, come from nothing

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 3>to be successful. I think those attacks are eventually going

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<v Speaker 3>to backfire once this Kamala honeymoon is over. Horowitz, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much for your time this evening, your pleasure

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<v Speaker 3>coming up. Well, look at the number of late term

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<v Speaker 3>abortions taking place in Australia. Doctor Joanna Howe joins me.

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<v Speaker 2>Nes.

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<v Speaker 3>You're watching the Reader Paney Show. Now, my next topic

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<v Speaker 3>could be distressing for some viewers. If you're a mother

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>who has a miscarriage, a still birth, or a baby

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<v Speaker 3>who dies after birth, you may be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>a one off stillborn baby payment. But my next guest,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Joanah Howe, argues that there are some who are

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<v Speaker 3>abusing this payment that's meant to go to briefed parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Joanah how It joins me, Now, are you saying

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<v Speaker 3>that this payment could go to those who opt to

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<v Speaker 3>have a late term abortion? And are we talking about

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<v Speaker 3>those who have a late term abortion because of health

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<v Speaker 3>issues that the child may not be viable or the

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<v Speaker 3>mother's physical well being maybe in jeopardy if she continues

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<v Speaker 3>the pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 7>Having a stillborn baby, Reader, is one of every mother's

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<v Speaker 7>worst nightmares, and it's because you were intending to have

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<v Speaker 7>this child and you were so looking forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 7>them and then they, unfortunately tragically are born dead. Having

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<v Speaker 7>a late term abortion is a tragedy of an entirely

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<v Speaker 7>different kind. It's intentionally inducing a child still born. So

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<v Speaker 7>that is the method of late term abortion in Australian.

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<v Speaker 7>We need to remember that in Australia, abortion up to

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<v Speaker 7>birth is legal for any reason in every state and territory.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the method after twenty weeks is to inject

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<v Speaker 7>the child with digoxin which will induce death, and then

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<v Speaker 7>to give the mother labour inducing drugs so that the

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<v Speaker 7>child is born dead, so they're born still born. It's

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<v Speaker 7>an intentional still born and in this scenario a mother

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<v Speaker 7>is eligible for the four thousand, two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 7>five dollars stillborn parenting payment. And I have called this

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<v Speaker 7>out on social media on my Instagram at doctor Joanna Howe,

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<v Speaker 7>because I do think that this is not the intention

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<v Speaker 7>of policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Makers that we would be able to access.

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<v Speaker 7>This payment for intentionally killing a child late term. And

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<v Speaker 7>you ask the question, it's a very good one because

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of confusion around it. Are these babies

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<v Speaker 7>going to die anyway? Are they being killed in the

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<v Speaker 7>case of a medical emergency to save a mother's life.

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<v Speaker 7>And the answer is actually no. The data shows. So

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<v Speaker 7>we've got eleven year data from Queensland and Victoria and

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<v Speaker 7>we can see that nine hundred and twenty nine babies

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<v Speaker 7>were killed after twenty weeks. And in Victoria, where they

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<v Speaker 7>take the reason for the abortion, for the late term abortion,

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<v Speaker 7>nearly one in two are on perfectly healthy babies with

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<v Speaker 7>physically healthy mothers. So these are babies that could have

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<v Speaker 7>been induced alive they didn't need to be killed first

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<v Speaker 7>by an intercrdiac needle. They could have just been induced

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<v Speaker 7>and then given care. And in South Australia, where I'm from,

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<v Speaker 7>the numbers are even more staggering. It's eighty percent of

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 7>late term abortions kill healthy babies. So these are not

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 7>children that are incompatible with life. They are children that

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<v Speaker 7>could make a contribution to our society if they were

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<v Speaker 7>given the chance to be born alive.

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<v Speaker 3>But are you saying these were otherwise healthy baby and

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<v Speaker 3>the mother's health wasn't in jeopardy. So I thought, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're having a late term abortion beyond twenty weeks, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>that there had to be a medical imperative behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly you would expect that to be the case in

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<v Speaker 3>the third trimester.

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<v Speaker 7>You would expect that to be the case. But it's

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<v Speaker 7>not the case in Australia. And this is the area

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<v Speaker 7>where there is the most confusion around.

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<v Speaker 3>And I bring my.

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<v Speaker 7>Legal expertise as a professor of law into this and

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<v Speaker 7>what I show on my social media and through my research.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a fact sheet available on my website. What

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<v Speaker 7>it shows is that in Victoria in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 7>abortion was allowed up until birth for a psychosocial reason.

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<v Speaker 7>And so that's a very broad category that includes anything

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<v Speaker 7>that affects a mother's well being. So it does not

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<v Speaker 7>have to be a physical health emergency. It's not like

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<v Speaker 7>a situation where the mother has a life threatening illness

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<v Speaker 7>and therefore the baby has to die to save the

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<v Speaker 7>life of the mother. That is not the case. Victoria

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<v Speaker 7>was the first jurisdiction to introduce that in two thousand

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<v Speaker 7>and eight. Ever since then, every single other state and

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 7>territory has introduced abortion up until birth for a wide

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<v Speaker 7>category of reasons, largely under that psychosocial or maternal well

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 7>being category. And what this means is that healthy babies

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<v Speaker 7>who if born alive, if induced rather than killed and

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<v Speaker 7>then induced stillborn, if they were induced alive, they could

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<v Speaker 7>be given care and they could survive, and at that

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<v Speaker 7>point the mother could be given care for her mental

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<v Speaker 7>health condition, and that way nobody has to die. And

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<v Speaker 7>you know, that is the real thing that I'm fighting

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<v Speaker 7>for reader, to wake Australians up to the fact that

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<v Speaker 7>we have a situation in our country where Australia has

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<v Speaker 7>the most extreme abortion laws in the world like China

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<v Speaker 7>and North Korea, and this is not a situation that

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<v Speaker 7>I think most Australians would be comfortable with if they knew.

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<v Speaker 3>We've run out of time, Doctor Joanah. How thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for your time this evening. We will speak

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<v Speaker 3>to you again about these very contentious issues. That's it

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<v Speaker 3>from me. I'll see you tomorrow at eleven up. Next

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<v Speaker 3>is Newsnight.