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Speaker 1: On scorn US Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalkey Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader. Panekey Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight is Google's left wing bias impacting democracy in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Wilde joins me to discuss. Also joining me tonight

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Speaker 3: the Great Douglas Murray on the real reasons behind the

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Speaker 3: UK riot and the cowdese of authorities to address the

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Speaker 3: root issues. Army Horowitz will have the latest from the

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Speaker 3: US as Kamala Harris picks a radical socialist as her

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Speaker 3: running mate, and later in the hour, doctor Joanna Howe

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Speaker 3: on the contentious issue of late term abortions and we

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Speaker 3: never forget left he is losing it. Tonight's starring Hollywood,

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Speaker 3: a list of Ben Stiller, and the Veep makes yet

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Speaker 3: another appearance as a woman.

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Speaker 4: There is a balance to be struck between being tough

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Speaker 4: and be.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of

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Speaker 3: Public Affairs, Dan Wilde. Dan will start with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: He's keen to have some of that Olympic glory rub

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Speaker 3: off on him. He posted a video on x of

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Speaker 3: a FaceTime conversation with some of our Olympic stars in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Albo's dog Toto also made an appearance.

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Speaker 5: Hey everyone, breaking from Australia.

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Speaker 3: We've been getting up very early here.

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Speaker 2: You can see my little friend here that she's collapsed.

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Speaker 4: Case of late nights, but very early morning.

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Speaker 3: So now we know air Bus loves and overseas Jawn,

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Speaker 3: So he must be concerned about Labour's fortunes if he's

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Speaker 3: decided to not make the trip to Paris for the Games.

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Speaker 3: The latest Guardian Essential Pole shows the pems apperival rating

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Speaker 3: has dipped to eight new low. His net approval rating

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Speaker 3: is minus nine, the lowest since he came to power

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Speaker 3: back in May twenty twenty two. What do you think

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Speaker 3: of that little clip? Wholesome fun, I think, But will

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Speaker 3: he be worried about this Essential Pole? It is seen

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Speaker 3: as a left leaning pole and even that isn't good

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Speaker 3: news for it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think he will be worried about it, There's

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Speaker 6: no doubt about that. I think he comes across as

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Speaker 6: a bit inauthentic when he inserts himself. I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's fan income. When Bob Hawk was getting behind the

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Speaker 6: America's Kapa, when John Howard was in his track suit

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Speaker 6: at the Olympics, people knew it was from a place

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Speaker 6: of authenticity that these were genuine sports lovers. Alban Easy.

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Speaker 6: It just doesn't come across as authentic on those things.

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Speaker 6: And clearly they're concerned about the declining poll numbers. So

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Speaker 6: the big question really for the coalition though, is even

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Speaker 6: as labor goes down, are people going to go from

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Speaker 6: labor to liberal or are they going to park their

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Speaker 6: vote with a third party?

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Speaker 5: That's the big question.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you would think it. It'd be more at home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, at a music festival or at summer

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Speaker 3: pub band that seems to be more is seen than

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Speaker 3: sporting events, but I could be wrong there. Talk about

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Speaker 3: talking about the Olympics, they're having all sorts of issues there.

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Speaker 3: The athletes are complaining. One swimmer, Adam Peaty from the

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Speaker 3: British team, has told I News that the athletes there

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Speaker 3: are finding worms in their food and also we've had

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Speaker 3: all sorts of criticism about the meals, not just the

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Speaker 3: worms but the fact that their plant based the athletes

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Speaker 3: aren't getting enough protein. Dan they've complained about the beds,

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Speaker 3: the lack of air conditioning. It's not easy being green.

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Speaker 3: They've tried to make these games environmentally friendly, and the

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Speaker 3: athletes are suffering.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think plant based is French for lacking flavor.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: The issue is, Look, if you want to be vegan,

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Speaker 6: that's fine, but it's being forced upon the athletes. They

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Speaker 6: need high protein, nutritious, dense meals so they can be

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Speaker 6: their best in whatever sport they're competing, and they're there

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Speaker 6: to win medals, to set records, to achieve excellence, and

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Speaker 6: instead we have this ideological agenda that's being imposed upon them.

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Speaker 6: We saw the opening ceremony, which is a showcase in ideology.

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Speaker 6: It's overshadowed the entire games. We've got the vegan issue,

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Speaker 6: We've got the beds which are made out of cardboard boxes,

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Speaker 6: on the beds. So look, I think the Olympics just

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Speaker 6: needs to be focused on the sports, the athletes and

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Speaker 6: the support staff who are there to do their best.

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Speaker 3: You didn't even mention the x Y boxes fighting the women.

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Speaker 3: I'll be speaking to Douglas Murray about that later. Now

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Speaker 3: let's talk about big tech tyranny. It's a big news

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Speaker 3: item in the US, but we're starting to see some

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Speaker 3: awayeness in Australia, not much, but just some awareness of

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Speaker 3: how dangerous it is to have Google have a virtual monopoly.

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Speaker 3: Google earlier this year had to apologize for the extreme

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Speaker 3: left wing bias of its AI platform, and in the

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Speaker 3: past week it came under fire again for failing to

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Speaker 3: reduce search results on the assassination attempt on Donald Trumble,

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Speaker 3: for the search results to be all completely warped. You

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Speaker 3: search for a Donald Trump rally and you get Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris good news stories. So some of that is hard

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Speaker 3: to explain. They've tried to address it, it seems, and

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Speaker 3: there's no reason to believe that local search results aren't

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Speaker 3: being similarly impacted by that bias. South Australian Senator Alex

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Speaker 3: Antique told The Australian newspaper very few people truly understand

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Speaker 3: the enormous effect that the tech sector has on our

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Speaker 3: daily lives, and that needs to change. He makes an

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Speaker 3: excellent point there. This is how people find information, this

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Speaker 3: is how they communicate. Google has become a verb. It's

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Speaker 3: not just a company, and it is not a straight

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Speaker 3: down the middle company. It is highly political and when

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Speaker 3: you're the search engine. More than ninety percent of people

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Speaker 3: use that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: It's a big problem. Sen An antics ahead of the

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Speaker 6: curve on this one, as he is on so many

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Speaker 6: other issues. There's no doubt that Google and big tech

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Speaker 6: have been seeking to influence the outcomes of democratic processes

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Speaker 6: in Australia and across the Western world. We saw that

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Speaker 6: with the Voice to Parliament debate. You know, big tech

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Speaker 6: was censoring the opinions of the note case day in,

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Speaker 3: We know the story quickly on meta on Facebook and

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Speaker 3: Instagram where they were running those bogus fact checks and

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Speaker 3: x you had a bit more freedom, but certainly Facebook,

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Speaker 3: which seems to still be predominantly the main social media

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Speaker 3: platform in Australia, the bias there was stark.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's right, and as you point out, with Google,

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Speaker 6: it's the overwhelming majority in terms of who uses It's

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Speaker 6: basically a virtual shopfront, so most people will Google something

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Speaker 6: rather than typing in in a web address itself. So

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Speaker 6: the way that Google alters its algorithm is foundational to

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Speaker 6: the information flows through our democracy and I'm deeply concerned

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Speaker 6: about the bias that we know exists at Google.

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Speaker 3: Now on that big tech front, ex owner Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: is suing a cartel of advertisers and ad agencies who

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Speaker 3: have blocked ad revenue from going to certain platforms and

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Speaker 3: content creators. They say it's an illegal boycott, excess filed

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Speaker 3: and antitrust lawsuit against the World Federation of Advertisers and

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Speaker 3: the Global Alliance for Responsible Media and its members including

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Speaker 3: giants like Mars and Unilever. This is a bold move.

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk said, we tried peace for two years and

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Speaker 3: now it's all out war. Can you see ramifications for

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Speaker 3: content creators and perhaps something like this we'll see some

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Speaker 3: of those big players change their ways.

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Speaker 6: Well, I hope so. I mean this is a warning

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Speaker 6: shot against the cartel of corporations that want to sensor debate.

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Speaker 6: This is just another way they go about it. We

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Speaker 6: know that the corporations we're just talking about big tech,

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Speaker 6: they don't want to debate things. They want to censor

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Speaker 6: and stop debate from taking place. And one of the

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Speaker 6: ways they're going to do that is by pulling revenue

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Speaker 6: from Twitter. Now, look, you can argue that, well, they're

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Speaker 6: private companies and it's their choice as to where they

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Speaker 6: put their money, and that's true to an extent. But

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Speaker 6: when they're cartelling as a block to achieve a political

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Speaker 6: outcome rather than a commercial outcome. I think, at worst

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Speaker 6: it's a debatable proposition. At best, I think that Elon's

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Speaker 6: probably got a pretty strong case.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, these don't seem to be commercial decisions, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now police are investigating reports of an assault and incidents

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Speaker 3: of criminal damage to a pub in Birmingham. This is

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Speaker 3: in the UK after a group of balaklava clad men

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Speaker 3: holding Palestinian flags seen on video beating up pub goers

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Speaker 3: at the Clumsy Swan Pub. Meanwhile, the media has also

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Speaker 3: been targeted. Tires have allegedly been slashed and news crews

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Speaker 3: have been intimidated. Despite the press in the UK blaming

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Speaker 3: the violence on just one side, here is Sky News

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Speaker 3: UK having to cut a cross short after the journalist

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Speaker 3: was surrounded by angry protesters becausehonephone.

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Speaker 7: I think, apologies for the language you're hearing, but.

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Speaker 1: I think you can Katie. I think, Becky, I apologize,

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Speaker 1: we need to leave you there, and Becky, we'll have

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Speaker 1: security there and we will leave it. And I apologize

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Speaker 1: once again for the language there.

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Speaker 3: Should be, apologizing for the selective two tier reporting we've

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Speaker 3: been saying. I'll be talking to Douglas Murray about that

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Speaker 3: in just a couple of minutes. But Dan, there are

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Speaker 3: lessons to be learned from this unrest. If we don't

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Speaker 3: want in this country to go down the path the

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Speaker 3: UK have and make the mistakes they've obviously.

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Speaker 6: Made, well we will be unless there's dramatic corrective action.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the UK is Australia's future unless we get

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Speaker 6: in control of our migration program and until we have

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Speaker 6: leadership that is actually trying to achieve social cohesion rather

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Speaker 6: than dividing us. This is the government that put up

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Speaker 6: the voice to Parliament to divide us by race, and

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Speaker 6: I think that's ignited the flame of division in Australia.

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Speaker 6: So we need to have proper leadership to unite us

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Speaker 6: rather than the division that we're seeing.

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Speaker 3: Dan will thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is best selling author Douglas Murray. Douglas,

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Speaker 3: let's start with the UK riots Kissed Darma. The police,

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Speaker 3: the media have all been clear who they blame for

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Speaker 3: the unrest. The far right, they say, fueled by disinformation online.

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Speaker 3: There's even suggestions of banning platforms like x and cracking

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Speaker 3: down further on free speech is that the answer to

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Speaker 3: what we are seeing, which are really clearly deep underlying

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Speaker 3: issues and communities across the country, from well places like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Rotherham, Middlesbrough,

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Speaker 3: London and even as far as Belfast in Northern Ireland.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, this all started after a young man seventeen

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Speaker 5: year old, stabbed death three girls at a Taylor swift

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Speaker 5: Fing dance party in the town of Southport and the

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Speaker 5: sense clearly and immediate aftermath of that, this is an observation,

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Speaker 5: was that the authorities were with holding the identity of

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Speaker 5: the suspect. Now there are some reasons why they might

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Speaker 5: do that, but obviously tensions locally were extremely high, feelings

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Speaker 5: were extremely high, and the way to try to control

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Speaker 5: the information obviously completely backfired as you would expect it to,

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Speaker 5: and that's led to these riots across city after city

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Speaker 5: in the UK. It's extremely disturbing, these riots of themselves

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Speaker 5: provoked counter riots where identifiably Muslim young men, some armed,

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Speaker 5: streets and this is really just.

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Speaker 8: A completely appalling and I'm sorry to say, this completely

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Speaker 8: predictable situation. Indeed, I can say it's predictable because I

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Speaker 8: said exactly this sort of thing would start happening seven

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Speaker 8: years ago or so in my book The Strange Death

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Speaker 8: of Europe. It's horrible to be proved right in side

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Speaker 8: circumstances because you don't want to be proved right about

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Speaker 8: something like this.

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Speaker 5: Want people to listen and change their policies. But you know,

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Speaker 5: the last few days have shown the Labor government refusing

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Speaker 5: to concede that there is anything other than what they

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Speaker 5: call far right violence going on. They claim that there

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Speaker 5: isn't a two tier policing system in the UK, which

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Speaker 3: Please not, Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: about their warped views. But sadly they didn't listen. Here

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Speaker 3: is Hollywood a list Kamala fanboy and lefty losing it

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Speaker 3: Ben Stiller, And.

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Speaker 4: She's also an historic candidate. You know, it's going to

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Speaker 4: be the first woman president, and that's incredibly exciting. And

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Speaker 4: you know, she's Indian, she's black, she's everything you could be,

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Speaker 4: more than one thing. It's incredible. You know, I'm Jewish

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Speaker 4: and Irish. I wish i was black. Every white Jewish

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Speaker 4: guy wishes he was black.

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Speaker 3: A Jewish comic blindly following a party with an anti

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Speaker 3: Semitic problem that runs so deep that Kamala didn't pick

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Speaker 3: the well pretty much universally acknowledged best candidate, Josh Shapiro,

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Speaker 3: who could have helped her secure the crucial state of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: where he is governor with a sixty sixty percent approval rating.

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Speaker 3: But he's Jewish, and that is a problem for the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: One that even CNN acknowledged.

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania, that's Governor Josh Shapiro has been discussed as one

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Speaker 2: of Harris's potential running mates. He also endorsed her tonight.

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Speaker 4: In your view, one of the pros and cons for

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Speaker 4: putting him on the ticket.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's certainly under consideration. I know that from Key

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Speaker 5: Harris allies.

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Speaker 2: He's a first term governor, he's Jewish. There could be

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Speaker 2: some risks in putting him on the ticket.

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Speaker 3: And right he was. It's clear that the squad, the

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Speaker 3: mass wing of the party is calling the shots. And

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Speaker 3: did you notice Walls was not even on that list

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Speaker 3: that they had up there. He wasn't one of the

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Speaker 3: likely candidates. Even CNN thought he was too much of

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Speaker 3: a socialist simpleton to be considered. Talking about simpletons, let's

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Speaker 3: get back to Ben Stiller embarrassing himself.

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Speaker 4: I just want to let you know I'm going to

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Speaker 4: match your one hundred and fifty thousand dollars donation. Everybody's

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Speaker 4: got to get out and vote and donate. Get out

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Speaker 4: there and vote and donate and like take advance. This

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Speaker 4: is such an important time right now, and this wave

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Speaker 4: of energy that's happening, We've got to keep going with it,

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Speaker 4: so please do everything you can.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ben Stella has gone full Kamala. Never go full Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't you just listen to Ricky Gervais. His advice was, sage.

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Speaker 5: Don't use it as a platform to make a political speech.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.

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Speaker 5: You know nothing about the real world. Most of you

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Speaker 5: spent less time in school than Greta Thumberg, he told them.

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Speaker 3: Now to Kamala Harris. The media spin is in full

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Speaker 3: swing from the Democrats propaganda arm, but we keep on

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Speaker 3: earthing the real Karmala.

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Speaker 4: And as a woman, there is a balance to be

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Speaker 4: struck between being tough.

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Speaker 8: And turn that off.

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Speaker 3: She's so likable, isn't she talking about likable. Let's take

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Speaker 3: a look at Kamala's running mate, the man she has

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Speaker 3: chosen to be the next vice president, and her campaign

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Speaker 3: released this totally real and authentic video of that historic moment.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Jim, it's Kamala here.

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Speaker 3: It's good morning.

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Speaker 5: Governor, good morning, madam Vice President.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I want you to do this with me.

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Speaker 5: Let's do this together.

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Speaker 2: Would you be my running mate and let's get this

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Speaker 2: thing on the road.

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Speaker 9: I would be honored. Madam Vice President.

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Speaker 3: You understand our country. You have dedicated yourself to our country.

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Speaker 3: He understands the country. The socialist governor of Minnesota, the

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Speaker 3: man who put tampons in boys' restrooms in schools, who

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Speaker 3: wants to allow teens and tweens to access medical transitioning

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Speaker 3: of their gender, who back the BLM rights even as

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Speaker 3: they destroyed Minneapolis and bed and who changed Minnesota's flag

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Speaker 3: to look a lot like the Somali flag. But they

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Speaker 3: swear that's just a coincidence. Minnesota is home to the

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Speaker 3: largest Somali population in the US, and other coincidence, obviously.

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Speaker 3: And this is also the man who has pledged to

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Speaker 3: provide massive ladders so illegal immigrants can climb any wall

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Speaker 3: that Trump may build.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks about this wall.

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Speaker 9: I always say, let me know how high it is,

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Speaker 9: But it's twenty five feet, then I'll invest in the thirty

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Speaker 9: foot ladder factory.

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Speaker 2: That's not how you stop this.

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Speaker 3: And he's the mayor who compares the dangerous failed doctrine

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Speaker 3: of socialism to being neighborly. But we can get out there,

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Speaker 3: reach out, make the case, and for one thing, don't

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Speaker 3: ever shay away from our progressive values. One person's socialism

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Speaker 3: is another person's neighborliness. Here is celebrating giving illegal immigrants

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Speaker 3: driver's licenses.

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Speaker 9: It's done, a packed room at the Saint Paul Armory,

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Speaker 9: erupted after the governor's signature, Meet the driver's license for

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Speaker 9: all a lot of the land.

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Speaker 3: And behind every male lefty losing it is an even

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Speaker 3: loopier woman losing it. And here is missus Gwen Waltz

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Speaker 3: saying that criminals should be given as many chances as

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Speaker 3: they need, having a chance every day. Thanks, how many

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Speaker 3: chances do you get?

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Speaker 7: My answer to that is as many chances as you need,

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Speaker 7: which doesn't really please those law and order people.

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Speaker 3: Yes, those awful law and order people who want to

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Speaker 3: put criminals in jail while your husband back those who

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Speaker 3: want to defund the police. Now cannot wait to get

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Speaker 3: my next guests in sights into the Harris Walls team.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you I've been praying she'd pick Walls.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think she'd be that foolish, But here we are.

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has picked the radically left Minnesota governor who

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Speaker 3: encouraged and supported the the BLM rights even as Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: was turned into a healthscape. Just look at the damage

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Speaker 3: and wild Walls encourage the protest as Kamala was raising

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Speaker 3: bail money for the Lawless Advance. What a team the

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Speaker 3: Democrats have put together. Joining me now is journalist and

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Speaker 3: documentary filmmaker Army Horowitz. Army, what is your verdict of

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Speaker 3: Harris's running mate? The smart money was on the Pennsylvania governor.

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Speaker 3: But sadly, the modern Democrats have a growing anti Semitism problem,

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Speaker 3: and that looks to be the main reason he was overlooked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can imagine I may have a thought

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Speaker 2: or two on this particular topic. Look, I like Joshapiro.

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Speaker 2: I think Joshpiro was a very talented politician. Look, it

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Speaker 2: helped he won because the Republicans put on a full

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Speaker 2: on crazy person against them. But look, he actually is

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Speaker 2: very talented at what he does and actually bounces out

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Speaker 2: Kamala complete and total political and competence. I think that

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Speaker 2: would have been obviously an amazing pick, but it was

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Speaker 2: more shocking that they didn't pick him, and then she

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Speaker 2: picked Tim Walls. Look, the whole game is Pennsylvania, right,

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Speaker 2: That's the game. That's the whole game. Nate Silver said

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Speaker 2: that if you win Pennsylvania, there's an over ninety percent

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Speaker 2: chance you'll win the election. They had a chance to

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Speaker 2: choose the governor of Pennsylvania, who by the way, has

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Speaker 2: a sixty one percent approval rating inside the state. They

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Speaker 2: didn't do it. Why didn't they do it?

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Speaker 5: Hmm?

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Speaker 2: Could it be he's a Jew? I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: think that the anti Semitism of the Democratic Party has

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Speaker 2: now manifested itself into a place that's going to cost

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Speaker 2: them the election. This is not me saying it. This

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Speaker 2: is Jared Moscow, it's saying Democratic congress person. This is

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Speaker 2: de w Wassman Schultz saying it. This is the ever

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Speaker 2: handsome Jake Austen Klass saying it. These are Democratic Congress

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Speaker 2: people who are sat saying he wasn't picked because he

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Speaker 2: was a Jew. And guess what, reader, it's going to

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Speaker 2: cost them the election.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can understand why Kamala would have wanted to

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Speaker 3: avoid a civil war within the party. They've got the

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Speaker 3: Democrats National convention coming up, and you would see protests there,

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Speaker 3: no doubt if Shapiro was her running mate. And it

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Speaker 3: seems that the cowardice has taken over the party. They

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Speaker 3: are allowing these radical elements to call the shots. Even

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Speaker 3: after the humiliation that Josh Shapiro put himself through over

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Speaker 3: the last week or so Army, where he seemed to

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Speaker 3: be groveling to the anti Israeli forces within the party,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't enough. Is this going to be a red

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Speaker 3: pill moment for the Jewish community in the States, the

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Speaker 3: majority of whom have traditionally backed the Democrats. But as

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Speaker 3: you said, it's hard to deny that this decision was

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Speaker 3: invited by anything other than the fact that Shapiro is Jewish,

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Speaker 3: is proud to be Jewish, He's been pro Israel, He's

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Speaker 3: served in the IDF, and all of that seems to

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Speaker 3: be unacceptable to elements of the modern Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I would love to say that this is,

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Speaker 2: in the way you put it, a red pillar mode

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Speaker 2: for Jews in this country. Unfortunately, I can guarantee you

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Speaker 2: it will not be the case. Look, I think Trump

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Speaker 2: will actually garner a larger percentage of thee than of

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Speaker 2: the Jewish vote than any Republican since Reagan, maybe even

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Speaker 2: beat Reagan, as he has done, by the way, with

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Speaker 2: other historical Democratic constituencies like the black community, and the

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Speaker 2: Hispanic community, because the issues that Jews care about are

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Speaker 2: guess what, the same issues an American cares about. Jews

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Speaker 2: care about inflation, immigration, they care about the economy, but

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Speaker 2: also they care about Israel, which has never really been

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Speaker 2: a believe or not. Israel has not been a top

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Speaker 2: ten Jewish issue for many, many years, not top ten.

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Speaker 2: But October seventh, that a little bit. So I think

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Speaker 2: he will make progress in the Jewish vote, but not

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Speaker 2: a massively significant vote, not like what Trump had done

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Speaker 2: with the Hispanic community.

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Speaker 3: Now the hard left of the party are rejoicing. Elin

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Speaker 3: Omer was among the first to endorse Woll's selections. She's

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Speaker 3: posted this She was very very happy with that selection, indeed,

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Speaker 3: and the first squad member to lose a primary. Jamal Bowman,

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Speaker 3: well he's back smiling again and celebrating Waltz's selection.

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Speaker 2: It's Wolf's baby. Let's go to walts in the building.

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Speaker 7: Time to win in November, y'ard, Let's go hands on deck,

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Speaker 7: no staying at home, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Go na Ami. You said this decision could cost Harris

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Speaker 3: the election. Others say that the VP pick is almost irrelevant.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this one would have been a deciding factor.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Pennsylvania is crucial, but could it cost her some

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Speaker 3: of those states where there are large Muslim populations that

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Speaker 3: are not very happy with someone who is pro Israel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. First of all, I got to hire Jamal Bowman

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Speaker 2: in my heype man. That guy knows how to bring

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Speaker 2: it when it comes to I'm a big, big fan

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Speaker 2: of at least not a big fan of his politics

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Speaker 2: and him as a congressman, but a big fan of

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Speaker 2: having express himselves with support somebody. Yeah, like I said before,

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Speaker 2: I think no, usually the VP pick will not win

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Speaker 2: you an election, but the vpick have cost you an election.

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Speaker 2: And I think this might be one of the weird

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Speaker 2: things where it's not who we picked, but again it

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Speaker 2: was who he didn't pick. But look, they're going to

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Speaker 2: have a problem with Tim Walt and the exposure of

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Speaker 2: his politics. This was a massive unforced error. It really

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Speaker 2: did tip the hand of Kamala's because look, everyone thought,

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Speaker 2: like you and I did when we went to sleep,

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Speaker 2: that she was going to pick somebody moderate to balance

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Speaker 2: out the Republican attacks on her being a radical, but

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Speaker 2: she doubled down on that radicalism. I think that was

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Speaker 2: a massive mistake. Look, when Bertie Sanders supports you and

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Speaker 2: Jamal Bowman and Alan Jomar, I think he may have

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Speaker 2: a problem, right, I think that might be a bad

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Speaker 2: sign as to where things are headed electorally. Look, Tim

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Speaker 2: Waltz is a problem. I can go through it. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to spend too much time going through the

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Speaker 2: issues he's got, but I'll go through a few of

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Speaker 2: them and make a couple of notes. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a guy who signed one hundred and four executive

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Speaker 2: orders during COVID that when the riots, when they were

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Speaker 2: burning down his city, he said, this represents decades of

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Speaker 2: pain and anguishes, essentially saying excusing the riots when immigration

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Speaker 2: is the single largest issue or the second largest issue

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Speaker 2: in our country today, he wanted to issue drivers life

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Speaker 2: into illegal immigrants. This is a problem. But I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you one personal story about me and in Minnesota. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, they not to mention the fact they

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Speaker 2: picked a guy who's the governor of a state that

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Speaker 2: the Republicans have one in fifty years, right, this is

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Speaker 2: not a purple state. But when I was at around

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis during the riots, let me tell you what

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Speaker 2: I saw. I saw a city burning down, and the

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Speaker 2: police doing nothing standing around watching the city burn. But Rita,

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Speaker 2: when I was walking around during the daytime when the

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Speaker 2: riots were because the riots were having at night, and

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Speaker 2: I wasn't wearing a mask. I didn't wear a mask outsides.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a stupid person, you know what. The police

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Speaker 2: came right up to me and said, hey, man, you

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Speaker 2: gotta put your mask on. That represents Tim Waltz right there,

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Speaker 2: a nutshell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a COVID era policies are now the now

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Speaker 3: why they're can to attack him. But my gosh, there

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Speaker 3: are so many areas, the trans policies. He mentioned illegal immigration,

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Speaker 3: He's all over the shop. But he's been one of

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Speaker 3: these Democrats who's been pushing the JD vance is weird line.

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Speaker 3: He made a reference to it in his first speech

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Speaker 3: as the rival vice presidential candidate. You know it, you

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Speaker 3: feel it.

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Speaker 9: These guys are creepy and yes, just weird as hell.

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Speaker 5: That's what you see, That's what you see.

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Speaker 3: How effective is that line?

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Speaker 4: Are me?

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Speaker 3: Because, as we've discussed, as a man who put tampons

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Speaker 3: in boys' bathrooms in schools across this date and supports

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of radical fringe dwelling policies. Is he

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Speaker 3: any position to be calling anyone else weird?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not very effective. Look, I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 2: fan of Jenny Vance as a vice presidential pick. I

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Speaker 2: think he was okay, I'm not a huge fan of

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Speaker 2: a number of his populous economic policies, his pseudo istelationism.

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Speaker 2: But let's see, he's weird. Okay. He was a marine,

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Speaker 2: he was a successful entrepreneur. He came from a completely underprivileged,

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Speaker 2: oppressed background to go to Yale. Is that weird? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if If that's weird, I think people

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Speaker 2: should should emulate that. But let me tell you, Rita,

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Speaker 2: what is weird? What's weird? When you want MSNBC and

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Speaker 2: somebody says that you know what he really wants? What

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Speaker 2: JD Vance wants? We're talking about cat ladies and neo natalism.

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Speaker 2: He wants white babies. Really a man who is married

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Speaker 2: to a brown woman who has three brown kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's pushing for for white babies. You know what, Rida,

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Speaker 2: that's weird.

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Speaker 3: That is weird. And jd Vance himself has responded to

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Speaker 3: the lift's collective attempts to smear him as weird and

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Speaker 3: he's pointed the finger right back at them.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 9: It's like the people who call me weird want to

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Speaker 9: give like hormone therapies and sterilized nine year olds. Like

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Speaker 9: I think it's a lot weirder, you know, me just

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Speaker 9: like living a normal life with my kids and my wife.

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Speaker 9: But this is what they do, I think, as they

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Speaker 9: latch onto a message and they try to sell it

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Speaker 9: even if it's fake.

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Speaker 3: He makes an excellent point there, because you look at

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Speaker 3: his family life, you look at it seems to be

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Speaker 3: one of the few politicians who seems to actually have

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Speaker 3: a happy, healthy marriage, three beautiful children, and like you

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Speaker 3: just explained, he lived the American dream, come from nothing

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Speaker 3: to be successful. I think those attacks are eventually going

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Speaker 3: to backfire once this Kamala honeymoon is over. Horowitz, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for your time this evening, your pleasure

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Speaker 3: coming up. Well, look at the number of late term

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Speaker 3: abortions taking place in Australia. Doctor Joanna Howe joins me.

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Speaker 2: Nes.

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Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Paney Show. Now, my next topic

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Speaker 3: could be distressing for some viewers. If you're a mother

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Speaker 3: who has a miscarriage, a still birth, or a baby

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Speaker 3: who dies after birth, you may be able to get

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Speaker 3: a one off stillborn baby payment. But my next guest,

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Speaker 3: doctor Joanah Howe, argues that there are some who are

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Speaker 3: abusing this payment that's meant to go to briefed parents.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Joanah how It joins me, Now, are you saying

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Speaker 3: that this payment could go to those who opt to

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Speaker 3: have a late term abortion? And are we talking about

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Speaker 3: those who have a late term abortion because of health

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Speaker 3: issues that the child may not be viable or the

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Speaker 3: mother's physical well being maybe in jeopardy if she continues

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Speaker 3: the pregnancy.

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Speaker 7: Having a stillborn baby, Reader, is one of every mother's

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Speaker 7: worst nightmares, and it's because you were intending to have

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Speaker 7: this child and you were so looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 7: them and then they, unfortunately tragically are born dead. Having

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Speaker 7: a late term abortion is a tragedy of an entirely

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Speaker 7: different kind. It's intentionally inducing a child still born. So

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Speaker 7: that is the method of late term abortion in Australian.

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Speaker 7: We need to remember that in Australia, abortion up to

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Speaker 7: birth is legal for any reason in every state and territory.

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Speaker 7: And so the method after twenty weeks is to inject

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Speaker 7: the child with digoxin which will induce death, and then

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Speaker 7: to give the mother labour inducing drugs so that the

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Speaker 7: child is born dead, so they're born still born. It's

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Speaker 7: an intentional still born and in this scenario a mother

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Speaker 7: is eligible for the four thousand, two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: five dollars stillborn parenting payment. And I have called this

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Speaker 7: out on social media on my Instagram at doctor Joanna Howe,

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Speaker 7: because I do think that this is not the intention

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Speaker 7: of policy.

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Speaker 2: Makers that we would be able to access.

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Speaker 7: This payment for intentionally killing a child late term. And

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Speaker 7: you ask the question, it's a very good one because

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of confusion around it. Are these babies

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Speaker 7: going to die anyway? Are they being killed in the

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Speaker 7: case of a medical emergency to save a mother's life.

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Speaker 7: And the answer is actually no. The data shows. So

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Speaker 7: we've got eleven year data from Queensland and Victoria and

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Speaker 7: we can see that nine hundred and twenty nine babies

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Speaker 7: were killed after twenty weeks. And in Victoria, where they

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Speaker 7: take the reason for the abortion, for the late term abortion,

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Speaker 7: nearly one in two are on perfectly healthy babies with

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Speaker 7: physically healthy mothers. So these are babies that could have

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Speaker 7: been induced alive they didn't need to be killed first

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Speaker 7: by an intercrdiac needle. They could have just been induced

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Speaker 7: and then given care. And in South Australia, where I'm from,

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Speaker 7: the numbers are even more staggering. It's eighty percent of

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Speaker 7: late term abortions kill healthy babies. So these are not

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Speaker 7: children that are incompatible with life. They are children that

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Speaker 7: could make a contribution to our society if they were

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Speaker 7: given the chance to be born alive.

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Speaker 3: But are you saying these were otherwise healthy baby and

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Speaker 3: the mother's health wasn't in jeopardy. So I thought, if

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Speaker 3: you're having a late term abortion beyond twenty weeks, for example,

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Speaker 3: that there had to be a medical imperative behind it.

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Speaker 3: Certainly you would expect that to be the case in

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Speaker 3: the third trimester.

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Speaker 7: You would expect that to be the case. But it's

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Speaker 7: not the case in Australia. And this is the area

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Speaker 7: where there is the most confusion around.

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Speaker 3: And I bring my.

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Speaker 7: Legal expertise as a professor of law into this and

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Speaker 7: what I show on my social media and through my research.

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Speaker 7: I have a fact sheet available on my website. What

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Speaker 7: it shows is that in Victoria in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 7: abortion was allowed up until birth for a psychosocial reason.

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Speaker 7: And so that's a very broad category that includes anything

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Speaker 7: that affects a mother's well being. So it does not

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Speaker 7: have to be a physical health emergency. It's not like

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Speaker 7: a situation where the mother has a life threatening illness

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Speaker 7: and therefore the baby has to die to save the

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Speaker 7: life of the mother. That is not the case. Victoria

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Speaker 7: was the first jurisdiction to introduce that in two thousand

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Speaker 7: and eight. Ever since then, every single other state and

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Speaker 7: territory has introduced abortion up until birth for a wide

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Speaker 7: category of reasons, largely under that psychosocial or maternal well

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Speaker 7: being category. And what this means is that healthy babies

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Speaker 7: who if born alive, if induced rather than killed and

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Speaker 7: then induced stillborn, if they were induced alive, they could

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Speaker 7: be given care and they could survive, and at that

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Speaker 7: point the mother could be given care for her mental

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Speaker 7: health condition, and that way nobody has to die. And

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Speaker 7: you know, that is the real thing that I'm fighting

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Speaker 7: for reader, to wake Australians up to the fact that

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Speaker 7: we have a situation in our country where Australia has

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Speaker 7: the most extreme abortion laws in the world like China

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Speaker 7: and North Korea, and this is not a situation that

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Speaker 7: I think most Australians would be comfortable with if they knew.

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Speaker 3: We've run out of time, Doctor Joanah. How thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for your time this evening. We will speak

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Speaker 3: to you again about these very contentious issues. That's it

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Speaker 3: from me. I'll see you tomorrow at eleven up. Next

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Speaker 3: is Newsnight.