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Speaker 1: This is the Fits and Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Have I got something on my nose?

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Speaker 1: Nose?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? We wiped his nose And then I thought

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Speaker 2: he was being very considerate that I might have had

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Speaker 2: something today on my nose. But then I realized Whip

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Speaker 2: is the kind of guy who would let you walk

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Speaker 2: around the office with.

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Speaker 1: That on your nose.

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Speaker 3: I'd pick it for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, how to spot a cheetah? There's a guy. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: there's so many of these kind of stories. This guy's

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Speaker 2: out of some university in Istanbul and he's only surveyed

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Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty people. So let's just take this

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Speaker 2: with the graves we gore.

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Speaker 1: Is one of them being in bed with somebody else?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a clanger, but that's that's not a

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Speaker 2: red flag. That's absolutely it's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: But that there are red cars. There are four.

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Speaker 2: And these are the red flags to look out for

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Speaker 2: a hiss of cheating on a prior romantic partner.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got four makes sense.

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Speaker 2: If you and I always think about this, if you've

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Speaker 2: met your partner and they had a partner when they

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Speaker 2: met you, and somehow you thought you won the prize.

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Speaker 2: They have form of not having the ability to get

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Speaker 2: out of a relationship before they get into a new one. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: do you know, So if they've cheated on their past partner,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they might argue that you were the one. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they can. It takes a lot of hard work and therapy,

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Speaker 2: but they can to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, grew up with and his nickname was the leopard.

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Speaker 3: He begged everybody to stop calling him the leopard because

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Speaker 3: he fell in love with a girl and wanted to

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Speaker 3: stay with her.

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Speaker 2: Ah And it's yeah, that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Number two. One of their parents had an affair in

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Speaker 2: the past.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: Does it play out in your adult life what you

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Speaker 2: might witness as a child, Well, it's called role modeling,

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Speaker 2: I guess. I mean it can go one of two ways.

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to do the things that I saw

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Speaker 2: in my childhood, and I don't ever want to be

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Speaker 2: like you know, marm or dad or whatever. That would

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Speaker 2: be the most natural way, wouldn't you You'll deserve and

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Speaker 2: go I don't like that, so I won't do that. Well,

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Speaker 2: you might have those feelings, but there might be some

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Speaker 2: kind of genetic code that is it hereditary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it in the genes for you to

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Speaker 1: take off your jeans?

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Speaker 2: Good? But it is not as good as dissatisfaction.

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Speaker 1: If you have.

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Speaker 2: Caught cheating, Kate Richie, could you then say I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't me, it's dad's It's like my dad, his dad.

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Speaker 1: It's in the genes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could. I mean usually you just deny,

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Speaker 2: don't you. That's how it starts out, and then then

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Speaker 2: people come up with as many excuses as possible. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not judging cheaters, No I'm not, because I do

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Speaker 2: think there are I don't think anything is ever black

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Speaker 2: and white, but I think if you're a serial cheater,

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Speaker 2: then then it's yeah, it's a way of life. Number three,

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Speaker 2: high levels of attachment avoidance, so that they are likely

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Speaker 2: to cheat.

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Speaker 1: This is how I read it.

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Speaker 2: If they have an avoidant tendencies, meaning their love avoidance

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Speaker 2: or attachment avoidance, so they don't they can't kind of

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Speaker 2: commit to you.

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Speaker 1: To anything, your car, you know.

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Speaker 2: You well, yeah, no, that's sort of.

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Speaker 1: Me at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It's the end of the year, we're tired work, you're

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Speaker 3: looking forward to Christmas, holidays, and BJ's sort of. She's

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of Can I get two minutes of

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Speaker 3: your time? Okay, two minutes of your time right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, two minutes, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: But are you treating her like you treat us? But

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Speaker 2: as long as you know as you love, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt of how much love you have for her.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and we still say that to each other, but.

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Speaker 3: We mean, probably a good opportunity to tell you guys

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Speaker 3: that I'm cheating on you and I'm doing a show

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