1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh hello, thank you for joining us healthy listeners on 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: this daily podcast from Body and Soul. I am Felicity 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Harley and as this EPP drops on a Friday, I 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: have a special guest, no, not Holly. This week she 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: is gallivanting around Europe. I'm joined by our fantastic producer, 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Tabby Wilson, and of course we are talking through the 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: three hottest topics in the health and wellness world this week. 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Tabby, welcome back. 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. It's been a while since I've been behind 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: the man in a. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Minute, and you have been to Paris? How was that 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: the Olympics. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: The Olympics was pretty incredible. I have to say I 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 4: got to see Simone Bars when her gold. I saw 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: my first Hannis match, which I mean I've probably peaked there. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: I don't think I'll get something quite as good as 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: watching the men's doubles take out gold for Australia. But yeah, 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: I was an incredible truth And I've never spent much 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 4: time in Paris, but I think I might be in 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: love with that city. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: I'll have to be back. Well, it's nice to have 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: you back in the chair this week. Now I'll kick 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: off with well, my pick of the week on the 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: website this week, and it was simple ways to slash 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: sugar intake. 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Do you know how much added sugar there is in 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: your diet? 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: I would suspect fairly high as someone who's got a 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: bit of a sweet died or. 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: How much we should consume. I really don't have any idea. 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: No, in terms of late grams. Yeah, yeah, no, I've 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: got no idea. 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: Twenty five a day or less twenty five? 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that dear, Yeah, that's it. 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: So this story was by friend of our podcast, Nutrition 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Is Susie Barrel, and she shared seven simple ways to 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: slash sugar intake. Just going to share a few, and 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: I thought they were really good because they were a 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: bit different. And I think with sugar's it sneaks into 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: your diet, doesn't it in places that you don't actually realize. 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: So these are particularly foods that a lot of us 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: probably assume are healthy, and they are to a degree, 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: but they're loaded with sugar. 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm excited. 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Number one flavored oats, So change flavored oats to whole oats. 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: So you know there's a little sashets you get, yes, like. 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: The apple cinnamon or something like that. 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean they might sound delicious, actually might. 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: I think my kids when whenever we walk into cereal aisle, 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: they're always like, oh, let's go those ones. I'm like, no, 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: well they're actually loaded with sugar. So you can get 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: two teaspoons of added sugar per serving. That doesn't sound 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: like a lot, but it's a lot when it comes 55 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: to your daily quota. So look for whole oats and 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: you can also sweeten them up with fruit, vanilla or 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: cinnamon to make your breakfast fuller. 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: That sounds like a really great tip. 59 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 4: And I think something that I've looked at a lot 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: recently is just breakfast in general is where I find 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: a lot of sugar sneaks in, particularly in granola, because 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: if you pick the wrong one, they're so they are 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: so loaded. 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 65 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the Actually when it comes to breakfast as well, 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: beware of fruit yogurt. So if you swap from fruit 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: yogurt to Greek yogurt, you can eliminate as much as 68 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: five to ten grams of sugar. 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: That's crazy if you're daily amounts twenty five exactly. 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: And I think you know, Greek yogurt is interesting. I 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: personally never used to like it, but you can acquire. 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: It's an acquired taste. It can be quite bitter, yeah, 73 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: but if you mix it. I have it on my cereal. Actually, well, 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: don't have cereal. I have like fruit and a bit 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: of granola and then Greek yogurt on top. 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,559 Speaker 4: Flissa and I talk a lot about breakfast off microphone, 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: so we're well acquainted. 78 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: With of what we eat. 79 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: And I've taken a leaf out of your book actually, 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: and I've also been making my own granola bit of 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: a humble raguly purely because I have been looking at 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: the sugar content and thinking, oh my goodness, and I 83 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: really want to up my fiber. That's one of my 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: goals for the next couple of months. That's very impressive, Tabby, 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: I am impressive tab granola trade my that The other 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: one I just want to share is it was a 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: really interesting one. But Susie recommends switching sweet chili to 88 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: soy sauce. 89 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: Now bottled sauces. 90 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Theyre notoriously high in added sugars, and most sweet sauces 91 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and marinades can contain close to ten grams of sugar, 92 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: so that's actually more than two teaspoons. 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: So it's an easy way to get rid of just 94 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: that extra sugar. 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to just cook with it something 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: in a bottle rather than make your own. Yeah, I 97 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: get it when we're all time poor, but just take 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: taking those extra few minutes will slash your sugar contents. 99 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: I think also, like we've Susie's been on the podcast 100 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: quite a few times before, and a lot of it 101 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: comes down to the level of processing in your food 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: as well. I know that's one of her big pointers, 103 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 4: and it sounds like from what you're saying, the less 104 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: process the better when it comes to sugar content as well. 105 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Amen. Now, Tabby over to you. What's peak to your 106 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: attention this week? 107 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: Well, much like I think everyone in Australia and our 108 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: respective cities, it is spring and the weather has been 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: all over the place and my skin is suffering. 110 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: I have been. 111 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: I'm not normally a dry skin girl, but it has 112 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: been unbelievably dry. So I've been doing some research into it, 113 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: as you do. And the first thing I kind of 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 4: wanted to learn is what is the difference between dry 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: or dehydrated skin? 116 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: Are they the same thing? Like? What matters when it 117 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: comes to those things? 118 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: And basically dry skin is characterized by a lack of oil, 119 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: whereas dehydrated skin is a lack of water. And that 120 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: is the kind of thing that you're normally going to 121 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: see when you have like quite aggressive weather changes or 122 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: like you're struggling with really dry air in your house. 123 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: And so I had a look at kind of the 124 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: things that can affect that, and one of the ones 125 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: I really wanted to look at is hot showers, because 126 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: we all love a hot shower, love a hot shower, 127 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: particularly in these violent winds that we've been experiencing in Sydney. 128 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 4: And based on what I hear about Melbourne, I'm sure 129 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: they've got well chasing that off the. 130 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Plane from Melbourne and it was very cold and then 131 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: it's going to be very hard on the weekend. So 132 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: wherever you are in Australia, there is erratic weather run 133 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: now exactly. 134 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: And apparently, sadly, hot showers can strip our skins of 135 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: its natural oils, so that would be you know, dry skin, 136 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: and that can. 137 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Also cause a lot of irritation. 138 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: So I guess if you have I'm quite fortunate not to, 139 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: but if you have any skin complaints like XMA or 140 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: something like that, it could be really exacerbated by hot showers, 141 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: So that's something to think about. 142 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: And the other thing is indoor heaters. 143 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: Hopefully we're leaving indoor heater season, but they really reduce 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: the humidity and the air, which can really leave your 145 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: skin both dry and dehydrated depending on which way you lean. 146 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: So the best way you can keep your skin hydrated, 147 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: it's gonna be sound really obvious. 148 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: Water Drink a lot of water. Drink a lot of. 149 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: Water, but also apply moisturizers twice a day when you're 150 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: struggling with dry or dehydrated skin, and maybe lean towards 151 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: something a little bit thicker, particularly overnight during those winter months, 152 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: because that can really up those natural. 153 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: Oils in your skin. 154 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: Make sure the water content in your skin is higher 155 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: and skin look younger and bouncier. 156 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: And happier skin. But I think we always need a 157 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: reminder exactly. 158 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it all comes back to it's like all 159 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: roads lead to rome, all roads leads to drinking three 160 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: leads a day. 161 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: And skin just quickly before we go, I had to 162 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: share this study. Actually, I've told so many people about this. 163 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I read I came across it last week, so it's 164 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: a study of more than one thousand GPS in the UK, 165 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: and it's found that one fifth surveyed have incorporated AI 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: into their consultations. 167 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: That's insane to me. 168 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: Is that horrifying or just a sign of what's to come? 169 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 170 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: So they're using bots like chat GPT and Google's barred. 171 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: So this study found that almost thirty percent reported using 172 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: these tools to generate documents after patient appointments, which is 173 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: fair enough, but concerningly one quarter used it to suggest 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: treatment options. 175 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what's the. 176 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: Point of training to be This is going to be 177 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: a massive generalization for me, so sorry listeners, but what's 178 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: the point of going to doctor school for six years 179 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: and then when we're going. 180 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: To be doctor chat GPT now? 181 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: I mean it's making me think perhaps I just go 182 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: to chat GPT when I have something a little a 183 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: little funny going on, rather than paying what is it 184 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: nowadays ninety to. 185 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Go and see the doctor. 186 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 187 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's just I feel like, yes, we'll be using AI. 188 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: There are pros and cons to this, but it's also 189 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: quite horrifying when when you hear that and you're wondering, Okay, 190 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: what's what's happening? 191 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: I know when you're wondering, especially, I mean seeing a 192 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: doctor is stressful anyway, particularly when you don't know what's 193 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: going on. And a lot of us have a lot 194 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: of trust and faith in our doctor, and we should 195 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 4: wish as we should. 196 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure most of them aren't using it yet. 197 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: But I've found this quite horrifying that one quarter of 198 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: a thousand. 199 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: I feel like this is I watch this space kind 200 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: of raze absolutely Tabby. 201 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Nice to have you back on the pod scene next week. 202 00:08:53,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: See you next week and once again listeners. If you 203 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: do like any of those stories, jump on the show 204 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: notes and I will leave a link to them. 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