WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 27 August 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:08.760 Lately. Welcome the late base. Thanks for joining us. I'm 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.920 James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Liz Storer coming up 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:18.360 driving instructors praying during lessons and learner drivers not happy 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.599 about it. Every parent will understand. We'll talk about that later. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.520 Plus when we get to the papers, the Greens announce 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.560 their price for supporting labor in the event of a 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.600 hung parliament and former Queensland Premier Anastasia Palage does she 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.280 support Steven Miles or not? No one's really sure. The 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.159 Career Mail have got that story. Will get to all 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.280 of that soon. But first, universities are crying poor over 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.159 the government's decision to cap international student numbers. But you 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.640 wouldn't know universities were short of a dollar judging by 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:55.560 the University of Queensland Union's budget. Students were left outraged 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.960 after discovering when the budget was leaked online that a 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.080 portion of their fee this had been paying for exclusive parties, 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.200 for lamas to walk around on campus and to fund 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.399 gender transitions. The Career Mail reported that the twenty twenty 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.160 four student union budget included twelve and a half thousand 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:20.880 dollars for a Clubs and Society's executive celebration, fifteen thousand 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.280 dollars for a party boat again for Union and Clubs 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.880 Society executives, four thousand dollars for gender affirmation bursaries, six thousand, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.440 eight hundred dollars for an ice cream and lama event 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.319 that was held in May, and one hundred and sixty 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.600 five thousand dollars for a toga party which was canceled 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.000 due to wet weather. One of the students quoted in 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.200 the Career Mail told the paper it honestly felt like 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.680 a huge betrayal. The food the union serve at the 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.400 moment on campus is pretty terrible. Meanwhile, they're dumping fifteen 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.560 grand into a boat party for themselves while we're all 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.080 struggling to put food on the table. Now. Not all 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.120 of the student union counselors agreed with the budget. One 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.240 of the objectors, Barclay McGain he told the Career Mail, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.560 it just seems like they've got their priorities all wrong. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.079 There's four thousand dollars spent on gender affirmation bursaries in 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.440 the budget, and this is essentially to fund students to 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.280 transition their gender, he said. For a lot of students, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.320 that actually goes against their religious beliefs and their faith, 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.120 and I just think it's so wrong they're being forced 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.799 to fund that. He said, We'll show you the advertisement 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.280 for the ice cream and Lama party that was held 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.919 on campus. There you go it advertisers, lamas and ice cream. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.000 The union spent six eight hundred dollars on that, and Liz, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.040 when they were asked to justify it, they said, and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.799 I quote, it was to help students' mental health. I've 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.799 always found that hanging out with lamas while eating ice 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.320 cream just helps to calm one down before exams. How 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.120 can they justify this kind of expenditure. And for students, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.560 I mean at least a small portion of their fees 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.280 goes towards this Rubbis. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.960 I just love that students are up in arms about this, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.919 and I'd like to extend my congratulations to the UQ 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.840 Union for making them conservative. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:14.680 Young. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.440 Keep up the good work, kids. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.760 Wait until you find out how the government spends your taxes, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.320 because that too, just like your UNI club fees a 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:31.080 mandatory straight out of UNI, you'll politely find yourself in 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.480 the forty five k too one thirty five K bracket 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.520 when thirty percent of your hard earned dollars will be 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:45.080 spent by the government on the most unimaginably useless crap 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.840 you can possibly imagine. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.400 You're upset now. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.720 That you're funding the lifestyle of the elite. They're splurging 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.480 fifteen thousand dollars of your money on their own little 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.160 private boat party for those who are higher up the 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.080 food chain, Wait until just give it a few years, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.480 Give it a few years and dial into how the 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.960 government lives on our dollar. They're upset now about the 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.360 fact that off people are being forced to fund things 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:20.000 that go against their religious beliefs. Again, wait until you're 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.960 fine where your taxpayer dollar goes and wake up and 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:29.400 realize that your own federal government have such animosity. I 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.480 would call it for the religious in this country. They 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.560 literally tried to get up a religious freedom's bill that 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.720 was going to do nothing but gut religious freedoms in 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:42.240 this country. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:43.320 I love this. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.480 Its awareness raising. The kids are learning young uq unions 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.560 pumping out the conservatives while they're still teenagers. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.520 Well, I think we've also got to give them credit 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.680 for putting every psychiatrist and psychologist in the country out 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.400 of business because they worked out how to fix mental 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.960 health crisis. It's lamers. Just get the larmers in there 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.960 and everyone will be fine. And in the spirit of 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.720 the Lamas, I would say I would spit on this budget. Now. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.600 Now the bit that I find the most extraordinary beyond 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.800 the four thousand dollars for gender affirmation. What's four thousand 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.120 dollars going to do? Is that for every student? Imagine 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.520 if every student of the university decided they wanted a 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.040 piece of the four thousand dollars, well, they're going to 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:26.920 go very far. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.880 It wouldn't be for surgery. It would be for like 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.400 a new wardrobe. Oh, we're very good gender affirmation, right, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.320 just to affirm whatever identity you have chosen. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.600 But God knows what that's meant to do. But one 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.920 hundred and sixty five thousand dollars for a toga party 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.560 right now, this is the best bit of rain I 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.120 have ever seen in my entire life that managed to 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.080 stop this party. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:48.479 For one hundred and. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.560 Sixty five thousand dollars, What sort of party are you getting? 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.360 I mean, I've been to some ripper parties with the 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.400 shed load of grog, and I don't think they cost 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.279 anywhere near one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. It 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.760 sounds to me like another one of these government contracts 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.600 that I want to get my hands on, because if 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.240 I can put a party on for one hundred and 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.640 sixty five grand, You're going to get a hell of 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.039 a party, and I'm going to have a hell of 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.599 a lot of money left over at the end. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.800 I reckon it would be nothing but a pile of. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.880 Grod Oh it would have to be and and toguns, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.280 of course. But it just once again proves, as you 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.560 noted at the top, James, the unis are crying poor today. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.840 You know, woe is me. They're going to lower the 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:28.040 number of international entrants into the universities, which is something 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.360 I actually have to give credit to the Albanezy government 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.279 for finally for working out that the whole thing is 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.000 a wrought because the universities take every cent they can 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.680 out of everyone without a care as to whether there's 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.560 any academic aptitude or whatever. That's why they favor the 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.520 international students, because they pay full tote odds. And when 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.640 you see how the money is spent, money that ought 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.159 to be spent on educating the next generation of workers. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.000 I mean, I know people a friend of mine who 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.120 worked in South Africa and when he was a young 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.680 man as a university lecturer, and he now says, if 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.039 a kid asked me what I should do with my life, 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.200 I would say to him, do not go to university. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.160 People who've worked in the system now acknowledge that it 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.760 is a total rought. It's a joke. You're not being 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.520 taught anything of any value. That is pumping you full 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.520 of Marxist nonsense, that the long march through the institutions, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.760 and they'd much rather spend one hundred and sixty five 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.840 grand on a toga party and fifteen grand on an 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.720 exclusive boat ride. You deserve to be up in arms 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.680 about this, and we should all be outraged because it's 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.120 not just the students. It is the taxpayers who put 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:41.160 lots of money into universities. And that fifteen grand that yes, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.040 it does come from fees that students are paying, but 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.760 that's fifteen grand or one hundred and sixty five grand 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.840 in the case of the Toga party, that could be 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.320 spent elsewhere. That's money the taxpayer, the government doesn't have 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.680 to give to universities. Why are they allowed to get 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.320 away with this? 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:00.600 Well, as my son is at Maccrory, university studying sports medicine. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.360 What's his union doing for him? 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.320 Well, you know, I don't know what the union is doing, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.480 but these clubs and societies that the union support, he said, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.720 I can't get from the front of the Uni to 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.440 my lecture without being constantly harassed by pro Palestinian supporters 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.960 trying to sign me up for things. And he literally 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.160 says they chase after him as he's trying to get 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.000 to lectures. So his experience at university, Caleb has not 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:22.880 been that great. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.000 If only they offered him a toga party about for 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.440 a alama alama, That's what he's holding out for. But 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:30.920 as it. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.480 Stands, they're nothing but very expensive, says Pools of indoctrination. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:40.760 Speaking of indoctrination, an incredible letter was delivered to Congress 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.440 last night by none other than not CEO of Facebook, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:50.320 Mark Zuckerberg. He says he regrets working with the government 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.640 of the day to censor Americans regarding COVID nineteen and 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:01.480 regarding the Biden family's dealings with Ukrainian from Burisma. You 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:06.080 may recall that Biden's laptop Hunter Biden's laptop showed that 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.880 he had in fact pocketed over eleven million dollars from 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.160 said firm during his tenure with them, something that the 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:19.840 family had denied. What an absolute gold knucket that laptop was. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:24.559 But remember we were told a nauseum it's all Russian disinformation. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:29.319 Well no longer, it's come to light, and finally Zuckerberg 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.920 is admitting the part that he played in it. But 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.480 of course we did already know that part about the laptop, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.160 didn't we because he admitted it two years ago on 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.520 the most listened to podcast in the world, the Joe 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:43.600 Rogan Podcast. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.720 Basically, the background here is the FBI, I think basically 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.440 came to us some folks on our team. It was like, hey, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.960 just so you know, like you should be on high alert. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.240 There was we thought that there was a lot of 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.120 Russian propaganda in the twenty sixteen election. We have at 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.160 our notice that basically there's about to be some kind 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:10.439 of dump of that's similar to that, So just be vigilant. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.439 And for the I think it was five or seven 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:19.280 days when it was basically being being determined whether it 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:25.600 was false. The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.640 were still allowed to share it. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.280 If you're anything like me, whenever you see this kind 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:30.800 of stuff. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.840 You go, hmm, that's nice. What else aren't you admitting to? 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.800 Well, last night, in this letter to Congress, we found 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.240 out a little bit more. To quote Zuckerberg himself, he said, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.400 we regularly hear from governments around the world and others 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.640 with various concerns around public discourse and public safety. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.160 Oh that's good to know. You work with these. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.640 Guys a lot, do you, zuck In twenty twenty one, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.240 senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:03.120 repeatedly pressured our teams months to censor certain COVID nineteen content, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.800 including humor and satire, and express a lot of frustrations 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.160 with our teams when we didn't agree. I believe the 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.240 government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.080 not more outspoken about it. In a separate situation, the 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.000 FBI warned us about a potential Russian disinformation operation about 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.520 the Biden family and Burisma and the lead up to 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.840 the twenty twenty election. It's since been made clear that 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.880 the reporting was not Russian disinformation, and in retrospect, we 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:38.600 shouldn't have demoted the story. So you're telling us that 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:43.520 by playing censorship, Patsy to the government. You actually ended 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.080 up censoring truth. And this is why I am a 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.439 free speech absolutist. I don't think any of these guys 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.880 should be censoring anything unless indeed. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:59.200 It breaks the law. Like in the case of child pornography. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.200 People do run child sex trafficking rings via certain channels. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.880 But his own platform, Caleb is well known for this 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.240 kind of very unsavory behavior. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.640 And what has Zuckerberg done about it? When has he 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.640 ever been punished for it? 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.960 And is this because is this why he hasn't been 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.760 in the past, because he plays ball with the governments? 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.120 Yeah, well, they certainly haven't gone after Zuckerberg in the 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.000 same way they have Elon Musk with X for instance. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.960 And you look at our own well. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.240 Kavel Durov, the founder of Telegram Telegram who. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.840 Is now in a French jail, talked. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.760 About last night. And you look at our own Safety commissioner, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.959 he and Julieanmngrad, who was vociferously gone after Elon Musk 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.160 and X for you know, daring to allow footage of 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.720 I don't know, for instance, the stabbing of a bishop 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.080 here in Australia, because that was damaging. We can't possibly 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.760 have that Meanwhile, you have on social media, including on 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:04.520 Meta's platform, dex and Instagram, a widespread dissemination of child 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.439 pornography and grooming of children. We know this, We've known 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.720 it for ages. This is a television package from the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.760 US last year talking about exactly this, and yet have 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.640 we heard a word done to Meta and Zackerberg about it. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.680 New Mexico Attorney General Raoul Torres says his investigation into 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.960 Meta found that Facebook and Instagram's algorithms created a marketplace 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.880 for the sexual exploitation of children. The civil lawsuit alleges 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.319 Meta enabled adults to find message and groom miners, soliciting 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.200 them to sell pictures or participate in pornographic videos. Law 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.000 enforcements set up an undercover operation using test accounts like 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.959 this one showing AI generated photos of a fictional thirteen 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.000 year old girl from Albuquerque. The complaints as the followers 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.080 flooded the account with unsolicited messages filled with pictures and 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.400 videos of Genitalia, which you received at least three to 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.720 four times per week. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.319 Now, look, I'm glad he's finally admitted that they did 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.679 actually engage in censorship at the behest of the government, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.680 whether it come to COVID or it come to Hunter 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.559 Biden as you suggested, Liz, you'd like to know how 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.840 many other occasions this has happened with what other governments 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.520 around the world. We know that to the Australian government 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.680 during COVID as well, was also making requests to social 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.880 media platforms to take memes down and things like this. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.880 In media in general, if the government comes to you 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.120 and tells you not to publish something, it's usually a 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.240 green light to publish at one hundred miles an hour, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.560 because it's like, hang on, if they don't want people 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.680 to know about this, then this is something we're definitely 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.680 going to publish because people are going to love it. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.160 And again I'll make the argument that I've made many 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.520 times before that if Facebook or any other social media 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.160 platform wants to go down the road of making editorial 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.880 decisions about the stuff that is published on its platform, 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.800 then it should be treated as a publisher just like 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.800 the rest of the media is just like us here 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.800 it's guy News and the newspapers, etc. Where there are 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.600 codes of conduct and whatever over you. The laws of defamation, etc. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.440 Apply to you when you publish content, and Facebook and 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.160 everyone else is operated in this murky territory for a 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.760 long time, where they say we're the public square, so 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.920 we allow members of the public to post what they like, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.720 and therefore we are not responsible for what they post online. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.440 Certainly not legally responsible for what they post online. But 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.600 seemingly they've been very happy when the government comes knocking 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.040 to censor things that the government doesn't want. They've made 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.760 editorial decisions. If you want to play in the same 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.640 sampit as the rest of us, you're more than welcome to. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.400 But I don't think you're going to like it. You 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.280 can't have it both ways. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.200 This letter from Mark Zuckerberg just demonstrates how much the 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.120 public have been gas lit in the last few years. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.600 I mean, we're continually told Donald Trump is a threat 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.880 to democracy, right, but it's the Democrats who were suppressing 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.680 news stories. We're told the government needs to crack down 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.880 on misinformation and disinformation, but it's the government who are 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.280 putting out misinformation and disinformation. We're told Elon Musk is 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.920 a threat to free speech, but at Zuckerberg who is 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.400 manipulating the news. We're told Democrats are all about joy, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.760 but they're censoring humor on the internet. But I want 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.880 to ask you, what do you make of Zuckerberg's statement 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.680 where he says we're ready to push back if something 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.240 like this ever happens again. The New York Post reckoned 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.960 that seventy nine percent of Americans believed the twenty twenty 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.440 election result would have been different had Zuckerberg not suppressed 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.000 the laptop's story. But now Zuckerberg says, all, but we've 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.080 learned our lesson. If it ever happened again, we'd behave differently. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.400 Why should we ever believe you? 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.520 This is a guy who has already caved to their 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.200 censorship demands in the past, and we know he's given 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.360 government's backdoor access to. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.800 Use the data. I mean, that's just on the record. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:58.680 That too has. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.000 Come out in congression hearings. That's something he's admitted to. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.320 So unlike Elon Musk, who is massive free speech hero, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.280 Unlike Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.920 Unlike Chris what's his name. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.719 Who heads up Rumble, these guys are the defenders of 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.800 free speech. These guys are the ones who refuse to 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.639 play ball with government. And that is why those are 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:23.680 the guys that. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:24.640 We bring a story. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.919 I'd say at least once a fortnight of ways in 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.719 which governments, Western governments, this isn't Russia, this isn't China. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.760 Western governments are trying to put the screws in them 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.240 because if they can't control the narrative, they can't control 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:42.080 the people. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.320 And so you can't have these platforms. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.960 Where you and I and everybody else in the world 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:53.000 can freely exchange information about anything. And so they tell 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.480 us that that's unsafe, and so that they have to 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.240 be involved in order to make it safe. And by 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.879 safe they just mean we keep everyone on the same page, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:01.800 and that is our pay. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.920 While we're on the topic of censorship, the ABC last 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.080 night allowed something a little bit naughty to go to air. Now, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.439 you wouldn't have been watching it the Q and A. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.760 That is, I'm assuming you gave up watching Q and 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.960 A years ago like I did. You were watching us 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.240 instead here at Sky News. But they allowed a woman 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.720 by the name of Jenny Carroll so go on Q 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:25.120 and A last night and question whether or not multiculturalism 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:25.880 was a good thing. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.280 My children, now almost thirty and thirty four, went to 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:35.040 the local state public school and were dictated to that 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.800 multi culturalism is a great thing. I don't believe it 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.080 is as I feel that the culture of the original 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:46.199 British slash Irish majority has been demonized constantly for the 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.679 last three decades, case in point, frequent vandalism of memorials 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.160 to Captain Cook. How does this? How does democracy fit 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.040 into this atmosphere of beat up the white guy? 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.200 How did that one slip through through the senses? And predictably, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.000 the ABC viewers were outraged online. They couldn't believe it. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.280 How did the ABC allow such an incendiary question to 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.000 go to air? Of course, she didn't say anything racist whatsoever. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.439 She didn't say that anyone should not be allowed in 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.800 the country. She simply questioned the validity of multiculturalism, the 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:25.280 idea of multiculturalism, of course, there being multiple cultures, as 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.679 opposed to what John Howard once described as what he 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:33.560 wanted to be a multi ethnic society, but a monocultural society. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.720 We come from many lands, but we share one central 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.840 set of values and a culture. Of course, ABC viewers, 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.879 unlike the rest of us, seem to think that the 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.840 ABC is to right wing. They can't see how left 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.159 wing it is, especially when you know real people are 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.600 allowed to ask real questions on the ABC. So they 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.000 set the internet next and whatever are like. Last night, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.320 Labor Minister and Ali was also on the program. This 0:19:58.480 --> 0:19:59.200 was her response. 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.480 I think multiculturalism isn't a thing. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:04.320 It's what we are. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.400 It's the character of our nation. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.120 And it's not a policy that was foisted on anyone. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:12.600 Take a look around you. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:14.440 We are multicultural. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:15.480 It is who we are. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:19.919 Now. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.000 I think you made the point to us earlier, Liz, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.840 that it's amazing that this is even a story in 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.600 the first place. I proved what a crazy position we 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.560 are in that it is like a point of public outrage, 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.520 at least amongst some people, that someone was allowed to 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.880 ask a question on the national broadcast about You know, 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.400 maybe the multiculturalism stuff has just gone a little too 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.800 far in terms of skewing against the dominant culture, which 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.760 is the culture that people came to this country in 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:49.359 the first place. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.920 Too In well, are we even still the dominant culture? 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.760 We know that only one in three of us was 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:55.800 even born. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.359 In this incredible country. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.840 I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:04.240 thousand times. Mah, I've never believed in multiculturalism, and history 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.600 bears this out. Preceding the fall of nearly every empire. 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.400 They grasp hold of what. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.399 We would now call DEI and diversity. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.480 As our strength. How is it our strength? 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.760 Can someone walk me through that in like practical, real terms, 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.480 Because John Howard was quite right and saying we can 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.919 do a multi ethnic society, but that is a cohesive 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:31.760 society that adheres to rules at his's. 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.200 To the same values. 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.320 What we have now is a melting pot of several 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.440 different cultures, some of them completely at odds with each 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.840 other on things that you and I would agree are 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.679 absolutely crucial. And we've got a government who's trying to 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.600 pander to that because they know that, well, we've got 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.520 more than one culture here now that we've got a 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.800 panda to in order to get votes. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.160 It doesn't work. Look at history. It has never worked. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.040 And where I love. 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.040