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Speaker 1: It fits in whip.

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Speaker 2: Yes it's back again tonight seven thirty on Channel seven Selection.

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Speaker 1: For the S A S. It's a test like no other.

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Speaker 1: Shut this is S A S Australia.

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Speaker 3: This is not a game.

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Speaker 2: Let's concentrate on that way and there Aunt Middleton, because

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Speaker 2: I tell you what he was. There was a moment

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Speaker 2: with Heath Shaw where Aunt just went straight up into

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Speaker 2: his face, spits alive again everywhere and this moment here,

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Speaker 2: let's give up on your.

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Speaker 1: Thumber fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Got a lad not hate sure he joined us now,

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Speaker 2: good morning, thanks.

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Speaker 1: For having me.

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Speaker 3: That was a moment there where it looked like you're

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Speaker 3: about to drop the old forehead onto the nose and

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Speaker 3: give Aunt middle to the head.

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Speaker 2: But you pushed back, didn't you? Sure he.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: A lot of people said to me, didn't you just

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Speaker 4: feel like knocking him out when he's up in your grill?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I said, boys, these guys are trained killers.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to pick a five with a guy

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Speaker 4: like that, even though he's five foot nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 4: And the state that we're in, we're obviously sleep deprive,

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Speaker 4: food deprived, the absolutely cook. So I wouldn't be at

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Speaker 4: my best if I was going toe to toe with him.

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Speaker 3: So it seems to be I mean, and Jet Kenny

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Speaker 3: was talking about it a lot last night. It seems

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Speaker 3: to be the lack of food is a major contributor

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Speaker 3: when naturally it would be so that moment last night

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Speaker 3: with a log Caro, and I know you were saying

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Speaker 3: your back was killing it as well. But how many

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Speaker 3: days into filming are in there?

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Speaker 1: I think it was about ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you start, I think the first four or

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Speaker 4: five days you don't realize that you don't get as hungry,

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Speaker 4: but then you start to start to get a little

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Speaker 4: bit peckish throughout the day. Usually when you go to

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Speaker 4: the fridge and get a snack, you just can't do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't give you any or anything like that. And

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Speaker 4: then obviously the sleep their provision as well, and then

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Speaker 4: you just get like, I'm thirty five years old, but

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Speaker 4: I've got a body of about a forty five or

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Speaker 4: fifty five year old. After after forty so everything starts

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Speaker 4: to ache. And I even started stretching before like activities

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Speaker 4: and before I run, and I never did that at

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Speaker 4: just sort of you have to do to try and

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Speaker 4: get yourself through and yeah that log, yeah at Bralong Carriage, But.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the log before that as well, the

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Speaker 2: challenge where you actually won going out there when you

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Speaker 2: had to have your balance and knock me out purchas

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Speaker 2: and off the log you were on fire. Surey, I thought,

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Speaker 2: there's without a doubt you're going to go all the

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Speaker 2: way through here. But like you said, I mean your

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Speaker 2: body through AFL you had you were struggling towards the

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Speaker 2: end of your career with your body as well. Can

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Speaker 2: I ask about I want to know what because when

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Speaker 2: we said the way that they yell at you and

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Speaker 2: you can't smile, you can't muck around, But are there

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Speaker 2: moments that we don't see where they let their guard

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Speaker 4: Sure, Oh, you probably don't have a laugh with them

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Speaker 4: because you don't know whether they're being serious or not.

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Speaker 4: You can have like a bit of a like a

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Speaker 4: different things. And yeah, they're they're they're genuinely nice people

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Speaker 4: and they flick the switch and become commandos and rd

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Speaker 4: and be humans, and they appreciate what you do on

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Speaker 4: the course. If you have a crack, if you're not

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Speaker 4: Foxy threw out the course Jason Fox some of his

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Speaker 1: And like you said, you try not to laugh, don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's he's very dry in his humor, and I

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Speaker 3: Because the thing is you're asked to treat the scenario

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Speaker 3: I think would be enemy fire coming over that ridge.

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Speaker 3: Well there's not. It's a TV show. So I can

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Speaker 1: Like that's the hard part.

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Speaker 3: It's a TV show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, but it's it's their world and that's what

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Speaker 4: we stay drilled down very early on. It's it's we're

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Speaker 4: going into. As soon as we got naked on national

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Speaker 4: actually care where you've come from. You're pretty much doing

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Speaker 4: some very entertaining moments when you're trying to do what

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Speaker 2: Hardest thing you ever did. Sure, and you've been coached

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Speaker 2: by Mick Mauldhouse, but hardest thing you've ever done.

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Speaker 1: That tunnel was the hardest thing, really.

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Speaker 2: Right, because you're claustrophobic, can't you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate Like I knew it was coming, because

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Speaker 4: they do ask you what your fears and phobias are

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Speaker 4: you're scared of ice cream, they'll probably figure that out

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Speaker 4: that you're not skipped.

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Speaker 1: That would be my line. Sure, I want to ask

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Speaker 2: So when you were halfway through that tunnel and you're

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Speaker 2: stuck in there, Surey, were there panic? Were there moments

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Speaker 1: Nah? I was, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was in the zone and when I talked about it.

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Speaker 4: In the zone, you just do and don't think. And

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Speaker 1: Keep it simple. Go through the tunnel and get to

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Speaker 4: I didn't think, close my eyes and I just went.

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Speaker 2: But you got that.

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Speaker 4: As soon as I saw a little bit of daylight,

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Speaker 3: Surey. Sarah said she'd never go on the show because

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Speaker 3: there is that strip down that nude part of the start,

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Speaker 3: and it seemed to me that you were the last.

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Speaker 3: You were the first to take your pants off, in

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Speaker 3: enjoyed that moment. Was a bit awkward. Who was in

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing was when they in my head, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: So I just like and just when you're a footy

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Speaker 3: Did you catch anyone having a look at you, any

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Speaker 1: There's a few guys behind me that whistle whist.

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Speaker 3: It was just awkward when the stuff had to say

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Speaker 2: Wow, he's not getting through the tunnel with that. Sure

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Speaker 2: it was an amazing effort. I mean, you got you

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Speaker 2: got an emotional mate. That was the big thing. Even

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Speaker 2: at the end, you got really emotional. And do you

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Speaker 2: know what I love about you? Sure you couldn't look

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Speaker 2: because there was an element of I'm shatter than I'm

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Speaker 2: getting out of this, but this is what I have

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Speaker 2: to do. This is my decision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, and look, honestly, you get you get worn down

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Speaker 4: and you do like I'm an emotional guy. The older

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Speaker 4: like I love my horse racing, so it's like I've

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Speaker 4: backed I've backed this horse and it's four to one

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Speaker 1: Beauty I back this horse.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit upset I didn't get the

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: I got through ten days, which which is for one.

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Speaker 3: The horse doesn't pans on the ten days was for

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Speaker 3: and he's really yelling at it.

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Speaker 1: This is not a guy.

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Speaker 2: And then you were courting the hotel room with Jmie

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Speaker 2: Carr and now you suspend.

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Speaker 1: It airchister the end of the show.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, mate, it was so good to watch. I

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Speaker 2: mean you're the one as well, just quickly. You were

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Speaker 2: the one that just put his hand up and said

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Speaker 2: who do you want to fight in the ring, and

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Speaker 2: you said, I want to go Sammy Burge. No one

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Speaker 2: wanted to fight Sammy. He got you a couple of beauties.

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Speaker 4: Oh mate, it's yeah, it's it's it's either stupidity or

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Speaker 4: trying to be a bit.

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Speaker 1: Of a hero one swinging at you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I got a I laid a couple

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Speaker 4: of good ones on him and he did not budge

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Speaker 4: so I got me in trouble here.

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Speaker 1: Once I went down, then I was like, oh well,

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Speaker 1: I'm like that was pretty stupid, but the biggest in

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Speaker 1: the yard.

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Speaker 2: If your horse blew out the ten to one, you

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Speaker 2: you were fifty to one to beat seventy. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure great to watch. You can catch it again tonight

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Speaker 2: seven thirty on Channel seven. Appreciate you coming on the show, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks good.

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Speaker 2: It fits in Whipper