1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: We get so many questions sent to our dms on 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: big business on Instagram, which, by the way, thank you 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: all so much for sending through your questions. I know 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: we say this all the time, and I'm getting to 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: them all and sometimes I get a question and I 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: think that is such a good bloody question, And this 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: one is what if I don't want career growth? Great question? 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: And Xander has written me this is good. There's more 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: to the question. Okay, so I'm going to read out 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: this message. This is from nat Hey, Britt. I want 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: to get your opinion on career growth. For context, I'm 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: thirty eight work a remote admin job that I have. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: No issues with. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: It's not hugely stressful and I don't have to think 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: about it when I knock off each day. I love 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: my setup and being able to work from home. I 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: have a manager that is a fair bit younger than 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: me and more eager to climb the corporate ladder than 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I am. She's always pushing activities on me to step 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone, suggests webinars, involves me in 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: projects that make me anxious or that are out of 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: my scope. I'm really good and comfortable with the day 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: to day tasks and middle management doesn't interest me at all, 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: especially at the company I work for. Is it bad 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: that I don't have all these big aspirations and am 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: just happy to plod along and do my work and 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: get paid. Interested to get your take on it? Cheers Nat, Nat. 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: This is such a good question. And running a business myself, 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: where where dealing with people wanting career growth and progression 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: all the time. 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I've actually had. 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: This thought to myself when I've thought, not everyone wants 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: career growth, and that's fine and normal. And you know, 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: as passionate as I am, and as passionate as a 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: lot of people working at Fate are, there's also people 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: that will work at places like yourself, And there would 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: be people that work at places like Fate where it 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: really is just a job for them, And I think 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: that's totally okay. I've never been in the position that 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: you're in myself. I worked a lot of jobs throughout 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: my teens and into my early twenties, but I never 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: worked anywhere long enough to even think about career growth, 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Like I never experienced that. I also just wasn't old enough, 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, Like I quit my job when I was 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: twenty one to become self employed. So I never got 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: to that point of even thinking about leveling up in 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: my career because I never had a career. I couldn't 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: keep a job for more than bloody six months. But 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, being in the position that I'm in now, 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: I have thought of this from I guess my perspective 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: and thought people. 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes just want to do jobs, to. 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: Do their work and then go home and forget about 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: it and call it a day. And I think from 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: my perspective, I can't speak on behalf of like the 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: business that you're working out, of course, but I think 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: there's nothing with that, and I think, if anything, that 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: needs to be more normalized in workplaces as well, for 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: those like you who don't want to do anything extra 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: or climb the corporate ladder. If that's what you want 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: to say now, I can imagine for yourself it would 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: be really difficult because you've said your Yeah, your manager 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: is younger than you and more eager to climb the ladder, 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and she's pushing activities on you to step out of 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: your comfort zone. She's suggesting webinars and is trying to 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: involve you in projects. But it makes you feel anxious. 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: I think to her or their credit. It's nice to 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: hear that you have an active manager, because a lot 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: of the time people will find themselves in the complete 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: opposite kind of position where they are wanting to do 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: more and be involved more, but then they have a 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: manager oftentimes that doesn't really care about that kind of stuff, 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: or they feel like they're not presented any opportunities by 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: their manager, and they might want growth, but they don't 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: know how to express that, so then they just continue 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. So I've got to give you 77 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: a manager credit to an extent that you know they're 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: being active with you in your role and wanting to 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: push you to do more. But at the same time, 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: it's totally okay that you don't want to do that, 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: and I can understand how it might make you feel 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: awkward if your managers, you know, trying to hype you 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: up and get you excited for new projects or making 84 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: suggestions of webinars for you to do, and you're just like, yeah, like, 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: I really don't want to do any of that. I'm 86 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: happy just doing exactly what I'm doing. So if I 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: was you, I definitely wouldn't feel bad or guilty that 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: you feel that way. I think that's completely normal. And 89 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest with you, I think, you know, 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: as excitable as I am around like career growth. And 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, I often think of myself and you know, 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: if I didn't have and if I for some reason 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: could never work for myself, you know, what position would 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: I do in a company and where would I want. 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: To grow to? 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes I think, you know what, it might just 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: be nice to just do a job, show up, do 98 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the tasks, go home, and forget about it. So I 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: don't blame you for just wanting to ride the wave 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: that you're on, especially if you're comfortable, happy. 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: And enjoying it. 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: If I was you and you're feeling a bit awkward 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: or anxious with your manager like trying to push you to, 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, grow your career in any type of way, 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: I think this is when my good old classic saying 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: comes into play. 107 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: Hard conversations, easy life. 108 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: I think it would be worth, you know, having you 109 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: sit down one on one with your manager and just 110 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: explaining how you're feeling, because I don't think maybe they 111 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: are pushing you for any reason other than wanting to 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: motivate you, which I think is a great trait for 113 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: a manager to have to be active within their team 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: and for you know, to have that. 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: What I've lost the word here, but they've got like 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: the energy. That's the wrong word. 117 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: They've got the motivation and they want to motivate you 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: within their team as well. But I think it would 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: be a good thing if you were to sit down 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: with them and say, hey, like, I really appreciate you 121 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: wanting me to do all these extra things, and I 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: love how excited you are. It's great to see you 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: so excited about growth and progression. But right now, as 124 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: for me, like, I'm just quite happy where I am, 125 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: and I don't think that that is a bad thing whatsoever. 126 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: If someone was to sit me down and say that, like, 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: I would want to hear that if that's how someone 128 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: was feeling the same way I would want to hear 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: if someone sat me down and said, hey, like, I 130 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: would love to explore new growth opportunities within my role. 131 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: I would like to take on more tasks. I would 132 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: like to work on more projects. I think regardless, as 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: a manager, it's nice to hear where people are at, 134 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: and then that way your manager can know that they 135 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: are also on the same kind of path as you 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: because it is awkward if you're just wanting to cruise 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: along and they're trying to motivate and excite you and 138 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: you're kind of like not reading one another. So my 139 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: advice would be absolutely set in a time to sit 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: down with them talk about how you're feeling. I don't 141 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: think you have to go overly into detail. It can 142 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: just be as simple as like, I've noticed the XYZ 143 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: you're like presenting you all these things, which is great, 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: and I love the enthusiasm and how you're wanting to 145 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: me to be involved with these certain projects or webinars. 146 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: But as for now, like I'm happy with my workload, 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy with what I'm doing, and I'm if it's 148 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: okay with you, is it all good if I can 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: just like continue doing my regular duties and tasks and 150 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm just not interested in any growth at this stage. 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, any manager would be more 152 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: than fine with that, especially like if it is like 153 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: a role that is just kind of fine to continue 154 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: the way that it is. If it's like a fast 155 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: growing business that everyone needs to continually level up kind 156 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: of thing, that might be a whole different story. But yeah, 157 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any shame in having that conversation, 158 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: and then hopefully after that you won't get told about 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: all the webinars and extra activities. Clear communication is everything 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: in a workplace between all team members, and I think 161 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you'll feel a lot better after that conversation as well, 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: and then you won't have to feel awkward or anxious 163 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: getting random things thrown at you. 164 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: I think, especially with hustle culture. 165 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: And social media and LinkedIn. Oh, LinkedIn is one of 166 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: those apps like I've got it, I've got a LinkedIn, 167 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: but it's that app that I just like won't open 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: for three or four months, and then I log in 169 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: every now and then because I'm like, shit, like I'm 170 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: running this company. I should probably log in and see 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: who's tagging me in what and maybe do a post myself. 172 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: But it feels like very corporate and a little bit 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: as my nan would say, hoffy toffee. That's what my 174 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: nan says when she thinks something is a bit fancy. 175 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: She calls it hoffy toffee. Like you know, when we 176 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: open our phones and scroll through the apps, especially LinkedIn, 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: like it's so much of you know, growth and this 178 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and that, and I'm excited to announce my new role here, 179 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: a new role there, and like, I think it's fantastic, 180 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: like the amount of opportunities that are out there, especially 181 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: for young people nowadays, where you know, everyone can grow 182 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: in all the creative areas and fields that their heart desires. 183 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: But I think it's also important to normalize just sticking 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: to what you know. And every business needs the perfect 185 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: blend of people who are wanting to be constantly challenged 186 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and wanting to level up and take on new jew 187 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and explore new areas of their role or look where 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: they can go in business. And that's something that in 189 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: my business journey, I feel like a lot of excitement 190 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: and also a lot of pressure about is like I'm 191 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: constantly thinking of like all of my team members, especially 192 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: those in leadership or those working towards leadership, and I'm 193 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: always thinking, oh, like I got to create this opportunity 194 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: for this person and this opportunity for that person, but 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: the business isn't ready for it yet. So from the 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: business owners standpoint, it's a lot to kind of manage 197 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: everyone's expectations and goals and wants and needs when you're 198 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: in a growing business. But at the same time, from 199 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: my perspective, businesses need people that act more like an 200 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: anchor where they don't need to be fulfilled by constantly 201 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: being challenged or trying something. New businesses need literally like 202 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: those anchors that kind of anchor in and they're fantastic 203 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: at what they do. And in saying that, even if 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: someone doesn't want career growth or they don't want to 205 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: go into management, which again I think you said, like 206 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: that's another great thing to be able to say, not 207 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: everyone is meant to be a manager. Being a manager 208 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: is a tough gig, and I think, especially for a 209 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of young people, it can be painted to them 210 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: you know that that's what you need to do in 211 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: your career, like start on the team and then go 212 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: into management. But it's tough, and not everyone is made 213 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: to be a manager. And again I don't think that's 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: a bad thing at all. You know, when I used 215 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: to have lots of different jobs, I was never a manager, 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: and if I was, Like, if I ever got given 217 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: that opportunity when I was younger, I probably would have 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: crumbled because it's not easy, you know, managing a team 219 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: and leading a team and then also working on yourself personally. 220 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: But I think we need to normalize people just wanting 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: to do their thing, And even if you're not growing 222 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: upper corporate ladder, you can still like grow within yourself 223 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: within your current role and improve your skills within the 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: tasks that you're doing in your role, or you can 225 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: get better at doing certain things, or you can challenge 226 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: yourself to become more efficient with the way that you 227 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: do things. So even though you don't want to grow, 228 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: you can still like grow within yourself within your role. So, Nat, 229 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if this advice has helped you in 230 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: any way whatsoever, but I think that's just a really 231 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: interesting question, and thank you so much for zending it 232 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: in what if I don't want career growth? I mean 233 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: other business owners and founders out there might feel differently 234 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: to me, But I think growth doesn't have to be 235 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: for everyone. It can be in different ways, but in 236 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the way that you're talking where it's like climbing the 237 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: corporate ladder, it doesn't have to be like that for everyone. 238 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: And don't be hard on yourself about it. 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: I know that like. 240 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Growth and hustle culture is like such a prominent thing, 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: but it isn't for everyone. And if I was you 242 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: in your position, I just have that chat with your 243 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: manager have a sit down and be like, Hey, I 244 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to let you know where I'm at. I'm 245 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: currently really happy with XYZ, and I know you're offering 246 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: me ABC, but if it's okay. 247 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: With you, like, I'm just really happy. 248 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I love my job, I love how flexible it is, 249 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm loving the work life balance, and if it's all 250 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: right with you, I'd just be happy to continue doing 251 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: what I'm doing and focusing on bettering how I do everything, 252 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: because even if we're not growing in our career, we 253 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: can always grow on a personal level, and I think 254 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: that's all it really needs to be, Nat, So good 255 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: luck with that, and I hope that the conversation goes 256 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: well and you can continue just doing your thing and 257 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: living your best life. 258 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: And thanks so much for sending in your question. 259 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: I'll be back next week with a main episode.