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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome to another episode of Fox Crickets podcast,

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Speaker 1: The follow On. I'm absolutely delighted to be joined today

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Speaker 1: by Australian cricket captain Alyssa Heay, ahead of what shapes

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Speaker 1: as a fantastic month of cricket to come, the old

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Speaker 1: enemy England, the Ashes all on the line in Sydney,

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Speaker 1: matches in Earth and finishing off with what will be

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Speaker 1: the historic day night match at the MCG, a Test

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Speaker 1: match at the MCG. Thanks so much for joining us, Alssa,

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on. Thanks having me, It's really

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Speaker 1: quite something to look forward to. We'll touch on sort

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Speaker 1: of what's happened the last couple of series against New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and India, England coming out, but a couple of

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Speaker 1: just quick things. I was at a press conference a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago and at the front of the

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Speaker 1: MCG you were speaking that the Australian squat had just

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Speaker 1: been announced, a really good mix of new and old

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Speaker 1: and some exciting talent across all levels. But you were

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Speaker 1: standing in front of a gigantic pink balloon. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell me about that and what that symbolized and had

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Speaker 1: you ever been in a gigantic, big pink balloon before.

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Speaker 2: I can totally say I've never been in a giant

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Speaker 2: pink hot air balloon before. I have been in a

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Speaker 2: hot air balloon, however, and it was an amazing experience.

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Speaker 2: But I guess to see a giant cricker ball promoting

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Speaker 2: the Women's Ashes sitting outside here outside the MCG for

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Speaker 2: everyone to see. Kerry O'Keefe actually has told me that

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Speaker 2: the last two mornings at five point thirty they've been

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Speaker 2: up in the air and he's been blown away by it.

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Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool. It's obviously a really unique marketing ploy,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's sort of done the trick to

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Speaker 2: make sure that everybody knows that we're going to be

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Speaker 2: here at the MCG at January thirty for an Ashes

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Speaker 2: test match, so it's it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: I was on a hot air balloon across the Atenent

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Speaker 1: table land so far North Queensland. Magnificent. But I remember

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Speaker 1: having a couple of ups and down said early morning

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Speaker 1: bumpy ride. How did you handle it? Where was yours?

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Speaker 1: And how did you handle that? I suppose that initial

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually I can't even remember where that hot

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Speaker 2: it is a surreal experience where you kind of just

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Speaker 2: it feels like you're just on top of like a

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Speaker 1: Now we see that and obviously the reason for the

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Speaker 1: giant pick balloon is that it's the day night Test

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Speaker 1: that the MCG that's never been happened before. Symbolized is

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Speaker 1: an anniversary of ninety years since the first Australia England

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Speaker 1: Women's Test series. It's nineteen forty nine was the last

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Speaker 1: time a Test match was played at the MCG for

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Speaker 1: the Australian women. So it's a really bigger I suppose,

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Speaker 1: a big occasion. There's been amazing attendances through the boxing

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Speaker 1: day Test. At the moment against India, we're expecting a

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Speaker 1: I think it starts on the Thurst A and it

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Speaker 1: It was just a fantastic mention.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, what.

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Speaker 1: Is it that makes the MCG a special place for

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Speaker 1: it and how much are you looking forward to that

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Speaker 2: I think obviously the way that our Ashes series has

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Speaker 2: They turn up week after week at the footy ground

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Speaker 2: yes it's about the cricket, Yes it's about the ashes,

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Speaker 2: but it's also an event in general, which is cool.

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Speaker 1: You touched on that in that conference when it's the

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Speaker 1: at the tail end for the Tests of the day

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Speaker 1: so it's a real celebration of women's cricket through those

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Speaker 1: four or five days. But to the golf, what's your

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Speaker 1: you've had the upper hand.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: I should be running a tour company, because that's how

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Speaker 2: I've been selling it at to run back in Sydney,

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Speaker 2: come down and watch the last week of the Aussie Open,

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Speaker 2: stay the week in between, play all the beautiful courses

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Speaker 2: the Test match. So Alica Hilly Tour Company will be

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Speaker 2: play a heap of them. Peninsula Kingswood North Course is

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Speaker 2: still by far the top of my list. Royal Melbourne

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Speaker 2: I found really tough, probably influenced me to not enjoy

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Speaker 2: we try and play PK as much as we possibly can,

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Speaker 1: Just having had the fortune of I remember watching Tiger

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Speaker 2: And I think I summed it up earlier as Funnily enough,

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Speaker 2: with families, we choose to test ourselves on a golf

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Speaker 2: it's just a whole new challenge and something that I

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Speaker 1: Who's at the upper hand your mitch on the golf course.

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Speaker 2: It's t for tat at the moment. Actually, I think

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Speaker 2: but actually very evenly matched combination. I think if he

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Speaker 1: That's a superb So that's something we're celebrating absolutely at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. Now you've you've been in Melbourne,

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Speaker 1: you've been part of the Fox Cricket commentary team over

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Speaker 1: the last week. A couple of queries just about that.

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Speaker 1: How hard is it to keep a straight face alongside

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Speaker 2: It's very hard, and I think you're just better off

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Speaker 2: But I think his knowledge of the game, more so

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Speaker 2: is something really cool. But yeah, Kerry is by far

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Speaker 2: continues it right throughout the summer.

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Speaker 1: And just I had to check to Alan Board at

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Speaker 1: and the advances in technology and how much you know

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Speaker 1: or your prior knowledge of coming up against players and

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Speaker 2: So to be able to put that on show first,

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Speaker 2: that's what both sides want to see. But the white

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Speaker 2: for both sides to go yep, this is these are

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Speaker 1: This is who went down. You can watch every ball

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Speaker 1: And more importantly though, you should be trying to get

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Speaker 1: the pink ball test. But most importantly I think probably

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Speaker 1: the players and the chance to win the Biggie Green

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Speaker 1: could be a couple that'll be putting their hands up.

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Speaker 1: How special is it to when you get that chance

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Speaker 1: where the baggy green and what can you see when

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Speaker 1: we look when we walk out to the MCG pinkball

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Speaker 1: historic match. It would be a pretty special moment in

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Speaker 2: I'm sure yeah, it will be, and I think I

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Speaker 2: just reflect on you know, Mitch and I have both

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Speaker 2: been playing international cricket the same amount of time, and

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Speaker 2: our two baggy greens sit next to one another in

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Speaker 2: the house and it's got ninety three Test matches under

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Speaker 2: it and mine's got nine, so we just kind of

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Speaker 2: for us is even more special because it has has

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is really special. And the atmosphere here

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to play pink ball here as well under lights,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be an amazing opportunity for the eleven,

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Speaker 2: not just the eleven, but probably the whole squad and

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Speaker 2: the support stuff and everybody that comes along to watch

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Speaker 2: as well. They're the amazing event that's going to take place.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're really excited for that. Obviously six games

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Speaker 2: there is one eye on that for everyone in the

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Speaker 2: want to play in that. I want to be a

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Speaker 2: part of that, and hopefully we get a pit and

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Speaker 2: strong eleven players out on the park that can take

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Speaker 2: twenty weekitts and Winter Test match.

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Speaker 1: Look, thank you so much for your time listen. It's

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Speaker 1: a really busy period. I know you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of matches going to ED and you've probably got another

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Speaker 1: broadcast in coming up as well, but it's been a

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Speaker 1: real thrill to have you on the follow on podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Courtney Welsh, but Lisa Australian captain. Good luck for

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Speaker 1: the summer. Let's hope the Ausies can and pull it

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Speaker 1: through against England.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me