WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 18 July 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:07.280 Live on Sky News Australia. This is to Nika di Giorgio. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.280 Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight. The 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.680 PM concludes his Kentiqi tour of China, but did he 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.680 actually achieve anything? The UK's ridiculous plan to lower the 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.959 voting age to sixteen and calls by the Greens for 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.040 Australia to follow suit. And the White House addresses concerning 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.800 rumors about Donald Trump's health. But first tonight. Federal Parliament 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.000 returns next week for the first time since the Albanesi 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.239 government was re elected, and g I think we are 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.800 in for a showdown. Our electricity bills have risen again. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.600 There's still a cost of living crisis. Our national security 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.520 is under threat. The US wants answers, the alliance is fracturing, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:53.080 and it's about time this Prime Minister was held to account. Firstly, 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.920 of course, Anthony Aarbernesi is coming back from his Kentiqui 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.960 tour of China and questions need to be asked about 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.720 what he actually achieved on his extended sightseeing tour. From 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.520 being serenaded by the Chinese military band playing Aussie rock 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.480 to the big banquets, the smiles and a bit of 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.880 tourism on the side at the Great Wall and the 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.280 Panda Park. It just makes you wonder what on earth 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.640 he was actually doing. I mean, what about taking back 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.520 the Port of Darwin from the Chinese. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.479 Did the President express any objection to your plans about 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.320 bringing the Port of Darwin back into Australian hands or 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.880 any potential response that China might take to that. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:34.240 No, it wasn't rose. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.520 No, not important enough apparently to be raised with Shijingping. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.720 What about the live fire drills off our coast? 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.679 Did you seek assurances that Australia would be better informed 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:52.280 in future about the PLA's navy in Australian waters? 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.240 And has China asserted its right to free navigation in 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:55.920 those waters? 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:01.240 Yes to the former. And secondly, in response, of course 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:08.120 it was president She said that China engaged in exercises 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.440 just as Australia engages in exercises. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.800 Oh well, that settles it, then, doesn't it? It was 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.160 all above board. The coalition is again asking questions today. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.079 We don't know. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.680 If there was a serious discussion about the sale of 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.480 the Port of Darwin. We know that the Chinese Communist 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:33.440 Party leader in Gjping didn't listen to the Prime Minister's 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.359 concern about the live firing exercises. We know there wasn't 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.560 any breakthrough with the release of political prisons. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:40.440 So when you look on. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.200 Every sort of measure of those serious issues that needed 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.200 to be discussed and resolved with China during this visit, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.920 it didn't kind of happen. But you know, romantic strolls 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.760 along the Great Wall tick. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.200 Now, the handsome boy from Australia is so scared of 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.679 offending China to its military intimidation, puniative tariffs and lack 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.880 of investigation into the origins of COVID, and at the 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.200 same time has been stronger in his condemnation of the 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.320 United States. Beijing served up panda diplomacy this week and 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.120 Albo fell for the red communist lights. Secondly, that brings 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.120 me to the elephant in the room. The Prime Minister 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.800 still has not been able to secure a meeting with 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.359 US President Donald Trump at a time when our alliance 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.000 is being tested. Now we are in the middle of 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.640 Operation Talisman Saber here in Australia, preparing our military and 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.320 those of our closest allies for any future conflict with China, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.280 and Albo is cuddling up to Pandas and I thought 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.440 these comments from a US Air Force official were very telling. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.760 What we're seeking is a world that is rule based order, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.920 where the Asia Pacific is safe and secure. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.640 And compare that with the optics of albow whining and 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.840 dining with our greatest strategic threat all week, who could 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.480 not give a toss about a rule based order. And 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.920 it's now four meetings of course with China, and none 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.520 with Donald Trump. Thirdly, of course, the cost of living 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.800 crisis in this country remains. Our energy bills jump ten 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.960 percent on July one, despite Labour telling us our bills 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.279 would go down under the renewables only fantasy. Major renewables 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.919 projects are crumbling day by day. The sector is plagued 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.719 by delays and cancelations, and it's causing irreparable self harm 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.200 via an experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, green 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.280 hydrogen solar farms and batteries, and you and I are 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.359 paying for it. Meanwhile, Big Australia is getting bigger arrival 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.400 surge to over thirty three thousand in May. That was 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.120 the highest May net arrival number on record, and if 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.080 current trends continue, net permanent and long term arrivals could 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.680 reach almost six hundred thousand by December. I mean, where 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.480 we got I put all these people? Treasury says Labour's 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.400 target of building one point two million homes between twenty 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.159 twenty four and twenty nine will not be met. So 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.880 Labour's failed to deliver a single housing target, yet ramps 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.760 up migration. Meanwhile, unemployment has risen, the RBA is unconvinced 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.960 that inflation is under control, and Labour's solution to all 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.520 this is a productivity talk fest next month, which brings 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.120 me to the fourth issue, tax reform. Now there's no 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.000 doubt Labor is buttering us up. These leaked Treasury documents 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:36.560 are rarely accidentally leaked, but according to leaked Treasury advice, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.839 Labor has been advised the budget cannot be fixed without 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.880 raising taxes and cutting spending. Now we've been warning about 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.320 Labour's excessive spending for some time, but this advice from 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.760 Treasury would have been well known before we all went 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.839 to the polls. So it's all well and good for 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.000 Labour to announce a productivity round table and use it 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.040 by stealth for inevitable higher taxes. In fact four, what 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.919 a Treasury boss Ken Henry told the National Press Club 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.520 this week. Unless there is more spending discipline, there's only 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.480 two options increase taxes or grow the economy faster. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.240 If we continue on that trajectory, as we said in 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.200 two thousand and two, we will have no option but 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.800 to raise taxes, and quite significantly, by several percentage points 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.119 of GDP. So that's the other side of the budget story. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.919 Or cut spending or cut spending. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.640 And don't forget Labour's already leaving us with a trillion 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.000 dollars of debt and the only way out is higher 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:39.160 taxes or rapidly growing the economy. Labour has already started 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.160 with super tax targeting unrealized gains, so let's see what's 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.640 next under the guise of a productivity roundtable. Then, of course, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.479 there are ongoing issues playing the childcare sector amid allegations 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.480 of sexual abuse, the Envoys special report into anti Semitism, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.279 which looks set to sit on Albo's desk for months, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.080 and now we hear About's latest push to censor the Internet. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.039 Will soon to have to hand over our ID just 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.840 to do a basic Google search. So look, let's hope 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.760 the Liberal Party are done with talking about themselves, bickering 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.960 over gender quotas and preselection, and finally start holding this 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:24.240 government to account well. The UK Labor Government has announced 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.480 plans to allow sixteen and seventeen year olds to vote 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.040 in general elections. Nothing screams you're a done of a 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.280 party than wanting to lower the voting age just to 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.320 get votes. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.640 I think it's really important that sixteen or seventeen year 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.440 olds have the votes because they're old enough to go 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.960 out to work, they're old enough to pay taxes, so 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.640 to pay in, and I think if you pay in, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.520 you should have the opportunity to say what you want 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:53.360 your money spent on. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.240 Where you want your money spent on. How much money 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.559 does Keir Starmer think sixteen and seventeen year old earn. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.720 I don't know about you, but when I was working 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.040 at the two dollars shop when I was sixteen, I 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.960 was blowing my basic casual rate each week on food, movies, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.040 clothes and having fun and emphasis there on having fun, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.400 which brings me to the main point. Sixteen year olds 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.640 don't have the life experience, understanding of issues in the 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.840 country and knowledge of the political system, and why would 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.800 they You're trying to navigate your final exams, and the 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.840 biggest issue you have to navigate is friendship groups and 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.160 school crushes. Now, obviously that's not the case for every team, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.719 but you get the point. But just by giving them 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.200 a vote doesn't mean that they're going to go and 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.680 try and understand how politics works. I mean, this is 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.680 simply a way for left wing governments to rig the 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.640 system and grab votes by getting more left wing voters in. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.960 Young people typically don't turn out like parties hope in 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 elections as it is, and we certainly don't need a 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.160 whole new class of left wing activists. So I'm sure 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.839 it won't surprise you to hear that right on que 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.760 the Greens here in Australia want the exact same. Senator 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.960 Jordan's Steel John tweeted, great to see the UK lowering 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.960 the voting age to sixteen. The Greens reckon it's time 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.920 for Australia to give sixteen and seventeen year olds the 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.200 right to vote. I first introduced a private senator's bill 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.280 to lower the voting age to sixteen back in twenty eighteen. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.679 Young people deserve to have a say over their future 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:27.000 at the ballot box. Let's get this done, and well, look, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.560 of course the Greens would love to get young lefties 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.360 in and let's not forget some of the biggest political 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.120 movements by teenagers around the world, like the student strikes 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.000 for climate action. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.800 I just don't know if they're going to do anything. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.319 And I just I'm so concerned with the fact that 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.360 if they're not going to change anything, and what's going 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.280 to happen to human crime, What's going to happen to 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.199 el what's going to happen to the whole world if 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.360 no one does anything. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.240 Yeah, and they're all being encouraged by this other team. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:02.720 Old dare you hold? 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:03.800 Dare you hold? 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:04.360 Dare you? 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:13.199 God? Help us? Please let kids be kids. Well, let's 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.840 return out to the Prime Minister's China trip. He's due 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.920 back in Australia later this evening. Now today, he released 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.040 a statement saying this visit marks another important step in 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.280 the Australia China relationship. A stable and constructive relationship with 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.320 China is in Australia's national interest. We will cooperate where 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.440 we can, disagree where we must, and engage in our 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.480 national interest. And this is a line that is peddled 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:37.240 out all week. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.160 We cooperate where we can, we disagree where we must, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.160 we disagree where we must. We'll cooperate where we can, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.160 disagree where we must, but engage in our national interest. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.520 Let's bring in liberal MP Aaron Violi. Now, Aaron, it's 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.199 good to see you. Thank you very much for joining 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.679 me on the show. The Prime Minister keeps repeating this 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.800 line over and over, but what does he actually disagree 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:01.760 with Beijing on. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.920 Hey, Danica, it's great to be with you, and it's 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:09.640 a good question. There are significant advantages to our relationship 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.199 with China, particularly economically, and I think it's important we 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.480 always acknowledge that my community, it's a big tourism area, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.720 the Ara Valley, and obviously wine is a big part 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.440 of my community, so there is benefits economically. But we 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.960 should never sell out our country or our national interests, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.440 and we need to stand firm and we've seen this 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.160 week that it appears the Prime Minister has not done that. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.400 When it comes to the Port of Darwin. We know 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.559 that he rushed out that announcement during the campaign by 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.120 ringing the radio station to get ahead. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.080 Of Peter Dutton's announcement. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.840 So we need to see real tangible action when it 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.640 comes to the Port of Darwin and those live fire exercises. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.520 What we don't know is did he address with the 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:52.360 Jijiping not just the circumnavigation and the exercises, but also 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:57.400 the notification Virgin Airlines private commercial Airlines had to notify 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.080 Australian officials about that happening. So there's a lot that 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.960 he hasn't given us detail on. You obviously enjoyed the 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.199 pandas paid homage to GoF Whitlam's idol We're going on 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.760 the Great Wall. It was a bit of a tourism 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.280 into his trip, which really was indulged in, as my 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.120 colleague Senator Patterson said, But he hasn't given us any 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.960 details on those tough conversations that need to be had. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.760 No, and judging by the press conferences, he has pushed 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.920 time and time again by the reporters. But it's like 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.640 he couldn't even say boo to Shijing Ping. So let's 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.360 see what happens when Parliament resumes next week. I'm sure 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.760 the opposition will take him to task. Now I want 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.880 to ask you about the unemployment rate. It's risen to 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.400 four point three percent for the month of June from 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.000 four point one percent. That's the highest it's been in 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.800 three and a half years. Treasurer Jim Chalmers today blamed 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.320 external factors for the increase and Donald Trump's tariffs. Have 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:49.720 a listen. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.479 There is a real sense that this volatility and unpredictability 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.600 and uncertainty is really a defining and an ongoing feature 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.160 of the global economy, and our own economy is not 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.040 immune from that. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.880 Aaron Labour love to blame everything on external factors, but 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.720 this happens when electricity bills are through the roof, when 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.679 red tape and I our laws make it impossible for employers. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.280 You've got unions with their fingers in every pie. Why 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.320 would you want to go into business right now in 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.319 the country? Were you shocked by the figures? 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.880 The figures were very concerning And as you said, Danika, 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.839 this is classic Jim Charmers. If you watch and listen 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.839 to his economic narrative over the last three and a 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.600 half years, everything that is good in the economy, whenever 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.480 there's a great number, it's because of the inverted commas, sarcasm, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.520 brilliance of Jim Charmers and Anthony Alberizi. And every time 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.280 something goes wrong it's external factors or he blames the 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.360 former government. He does not take responsibility for any of 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.840 the challenges that we face. But these numbers are concerning 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.920 when you overlay this with the most growth that we've 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.200 had in the jobs market in the last three years 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.559 has been a non market sector jobs around eighty three percent. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.719 I believe the private sector just doesn't have the confidence 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.760 to invest. And as you said, there's many factors, higher 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.680 economic energy prices, industrial relations. Businesses are up not prepared 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 to invest in the private market and that's leading this 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.240 softness in the job figures. And when I speak to community, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.600 you know, small businesses, large businesses in my community, they're 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.200 just not sure what the future holds, and they have 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.720 no confidence that this government has any solutions at the 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.720 real source level to the economic challenges that we face. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.080 No, very very clear, aaron I mentioned. Of course, Parliament 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.520 returns next week for the first time since Labor was 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.280 elected was re elected back in May. What is on 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.840 the coalition's agenda. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.400 Well, some really important things that we need to address. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:48.160 And obviously we were all shocked and disgusted by the 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.040 allegations that were made against a childcare worker here in Victoria. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.720 So the Government of forecasts that they're going to have 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.080 a new piece of legislation around child safety, we will 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.920 scrutinize that in great detail to make sure that he 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.280 is actually going to make a tangible difference to keep 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.240 children safe, and also make sure that it's implemented sooner 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.080 rather than later. We cannot afford to have a moment 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.880 where symbolically it looks good and it doesn't actually make 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.400 a difference. So that will be an important piece of 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.320 legislation that we will scrutinize and work with the government 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.040 if it is good legislation and look to strengthen it 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.600 if we need to. Obviously the economy we've seen unemployment, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.720 but housing is another issue that we will look to 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.560 question the government on their plans. That leak document which 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.280 I think we all know and we all think is 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.600 really softening the Australian people up around the tax but 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.920 also around the deficits and housing. You know, it's clear 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.520 that they're going to completely miss the one point two 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.480 million housing target, which is going to continue to push 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.000 prices up for housing. So we'll look to hold them 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.000 to account when it comes to the economy and also housing, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.080 because as I said, they spin all the positives, but 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.160 Jim Chalmers doesn't have any solutions for the Australian people. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.240 No, that's it. They haven't achieved not one housing target yet. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.560 Migration is rising and rising. A huge week ahead in Parliament. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.680 Aaron Violi, good to see you. Thank you very much 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.920 for joining me on the show this evening. Really appreciate it. Well, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.400 it's seriously difficult to understand what Anthony Albanezi stands for 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.280 and who he represents. Now. One thing that really stuck 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.280 out for me this week from his trip to China 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.520 was that he stood in front of three flags at 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.840 his press conferences, the Australian, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.400 of flags. I just think this is a bizarre image. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.440 You've got the leader of the country going to another 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.440 country and standing in front of three flags when he's 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.000 there to represent one country and that's Australia. Joining me 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.320 now to discuss this and more is Warren Mundine, the 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.880 Indigenous Forum director at the Center for Independent Studies. Warren, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.200 thank you so much for joining me. You've even got 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.640 the Aussie flag on your lapel. Right now. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.880 I'm not at the Center for Independent Studies anymore. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.479 Sorry, apologize? 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.360 Did that's all right? 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:56.680 Hell? 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:01.720 Look, we have one national flag. We have one nation flag. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.560 The Torres Strada Islander flag is a flag for Tyres 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.399 Straight Islanders. The Aboriginal flag. I'm an Aboriginal person. It 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.119 is our flag, you know. I love that flag. I 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.359 think it's brilliant. But we're all Australians. He's the Prime 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.120 Minister of Australians. We have one national flag and that's 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:22.160 the only flag that he should be standing with internationally 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.280 and even at home. Now he may have an event 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.320 with Aboriginal people, sure, but or Greek people, other people. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.560 But we have one national flag and that's what we 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:33.520 should be focusing on. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.160 Did you think it was strange seeing that the image 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.840 of him at the press conferences. I mean, he's over 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.520 there representing our country is in China, standing in front 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:42.919 of three flags. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.560 Did you think the optics were just off, the obstacles 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.000 was off, but also the sentiment was off. You know 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.280 what really makes me angry is like those people who 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.360 live in Brunswick and they have little signs on their 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.000 doors saying, oh we live on stolen land. Well my 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.960 argument is, if you live on stolen land, give the 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:02.399 bloody land back and stop virtuals the government. We have 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.200 a lot of problems in Australia at the moment. We've 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.000 seen that the problems in regional remode Australian regard the 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.080 crime rates we're seeing about it, unemployment, rates of services, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.400 education and everything like that. If he was fair dicome 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.040 about the flag and everything like that, he would actually 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.439 be doing something about it. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:19.600 But they're not. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.920 That's what makes me even wilder. One that's an insult. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.760 He should be out there standing out there under the 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.679 Australian flag and that's it. We've got our one national 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.840 flag and we're all Australians. That's our flag. He should 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.960 be not going out there virtually singing and actually doing nothing. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:36.880 All he did was the voice and did nothing else. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.560 Well, I just think it's identity politics on steroids. But 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.120 my concern is, realistically, is this ever going to change 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.399 the Coalition pledge? You remember that was one of their 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.080 policies was should Peter Dunton be elected, that he would 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.960 only stand in front of one flag. But Labor loved 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.919 the identity politics. They love that these sorts of things 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.919 that there are. Realistically, nothing's going to change. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.399 Because the diverting from the real issue the relationship is, 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.800 We've got to get jobs in average communities. We've got 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.040 to get health services moving, we've got to get kids 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.280 to school, we've got to get them educated and get 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.840 them through universities. We've got to get people into have 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:13.240 an economic future for themselves and their families and safe communities. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.240 Little the crime rates and everything that's happening in these communities, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.320 and that's the real issue. So but rather than doing that, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.680 why don't I just stand in front of the free flags. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.960 That's where just show how good I am. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.760 Exactly whare are the priorities? Now, I've got to share 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.280 this one with you. Council bureaucrats on Victoria's Mornington Peninsula 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.520 have revolted against emotion that would see the Australian flag 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.399 make the most prominent position on official documents, instead arguing 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.639 that spin doctors they did the last word to decide 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.120 if it was culturally safe. Now, I'm going to show 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.520 you this example of what one of the flyers looks like. 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.800 Right now, it's got the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags, 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.680 and then you've got one representing intersex groups like gays, lesbians, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.120 a trans community, I mean, give me a break, seriously, 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.760 but here's the thing. An updated flag policy to be 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.919 considered by the Council next week include the clause that 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.720 gives the Shires Communications Team the last word on deciding 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.520 whether or not to actually include the Australian flag in 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.960 printed material for diverse communities, including Aboriginal communities. Where do 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.280 we even start with this? 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.720 This is just a joke. It's something it's never heard of, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.320 such nonsense. You know what they hate us. This is 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.359 the same we have every year annually about Australia Days. 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.040 We should be all coming together and be proud of 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.280 this nation. This nation is the best nation in the world. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:37.239 Sorry Donald Trump. It is the best it is and 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.040 it is because we've brought all these different people from 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.119 all over the world. And we have our indigenous people, yes, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.159 but we've brought all these other people with millions of 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.880 them here and they've worked hard and they've made this world, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.639 this country, a better place, and we're building this incredible 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.159 democracy and liberal democracy of freedoms and treating everyone equal. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.640 And then we have these clowns. You know, they said, oh, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.439 look it's trigger. 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.520 You know, it's a trigger that me. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.520 Come on, if you're upset about that. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.960 What happens if you see the Japanese flag? You crying 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.720 and rolling around the ground everywhere. For God's sake, grow up, bluddy. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.800 This is Australia. Do your job, look at the rates 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.160 and rubbish and servicing the people of y area and making 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.600 sure it's got a nice art gallery and a library 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.879 and everything like that, rather than rolling around in the 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:23.879 grass triggered by the Australian flag. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:24.679 Give me a right. 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.440 Oh, it's just ridiculous your spot on. Go back to 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.879