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Speaker 1: My god, keess you messaid.

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Speaker 2: Here's some of the best bets from Jason Lauren while

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Speaker 2: we're on break.

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Speaker 3: The Fireworks rundaway at one Lauren Phillips House.

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Speaker 4: Let me start this by saying, firstly, I obviously didn't

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Speaker 4: realize my lovely fiance Paul was recording me at.

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Speaker 1: The time, but I was first time he filmed.

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Speaker 5: We were going out last night.

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Speaker 4: And he does this regularly, and he did this as

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Speaker 4: a stitch up to push my buttons.

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Speaker 5: Probably a little earlier than he normally would.

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Speaker 4: But he says this one thing all the time when

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Speaker 4: he knows what the answer will be. But he asks

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Speaker 4: me this question whenever we are getting ready to go

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Speaker 4: out at the most inconvenient times.

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Speaker 3: He sent this video to me. He was like an

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Speaker 3: excited school kid and he goes in full flight. Here

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Speaker 3: she is just won how long are you going to take?

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Speaker 6: Are?

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Speaker 5: And I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: You literally just showers it off and he said, are you.

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Speaker 5: Ready to I just know, I'm just I just know

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Speaker 5: you've been really late?

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Speaker 4: Obvious, I'm ready to go in the shower just turned off.

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Speaker 5: Literally I turned the forcet off. I took once do

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Speaker 5: look credit to go.

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Speaker 3: Don't lie on the bed.

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Speaker 5: I'm lying on the bed. I just need to cool

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Speaker 5: down from.

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Speaker 3: The okay bit to unpack. First things first, we have

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Speaker 3: edited add a lot of swearing. Yes so oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I literally turned to the shower off.

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Speaker 4: I'm still soaking wet in the bathroom with like, I've

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Speaker 4: washed my hair and we're not leaving for an hour,

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Speaker 4: and he goes, you're.

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Speaker 5: Ready to go? I was just, you know, look like

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 4: I'm soaking wet, I'm naked and I've got wet hair

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Speaker 4: and we're not leaving.

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Speaker 3: Maybe going like that that's ready to me? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh, he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: You can put a top one in the car if

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Speaker 3: we're leaving.

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Speaker 4: At seven o'clock. I'll be in the bathroom doing my

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Speaker 4: makeup at twenty to seven.

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Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, that's on you. You leave it too late.

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Speaker 4: It's twenty to seven, And he goes, are you ready

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, does it look like I'm ready to go?

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Speaker 1: And we're not leaving now, so we can't leave it

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Speaker 1: you're not ready.

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Speaker 4: And also the lying on the bed thing, I have

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Speaker 4: a hot shower and I need five minutes to cool

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Speaker 4: down in my towel.

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Speaker 3: You want my wife, she looks third degree burns. Unless

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Speaker 3: she's a degree burns. She's not clean enough yet.

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Speaker 2: I've witnessed many situations in the Phillips O'Brien household, right

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Speaker 2: what they do. One thing that throws me, Lauren, why

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Speaker 2: do you call each other mate?

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Speaker 5: That's when we're angry.

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Speaker 4: And I do that only when we're angry, all right, mate, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's when we're annoyed.

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Speaker 3: It's like, see the other way we do it when

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Speaker 3: we're like amen.

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Speaker 5: No oh no, no, no, that would not when you

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Speaker 5: want to be.

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Speaker 4: If I'm calling him mate, it's instead of me calling

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Speaker 4: him something else. I'm not happy, right, Like I've got

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Speaker 4: out of show mate.

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Speaker 5: Do I look like I'm ready to go?

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Speaker 3: You know what loses if she goes? How do I look?

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Speaker 3: I'll go fine?

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Speaker 5: Oh, don't say fine. Don't say fine. We're just asking

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Speaker 5: for a confidence because I know what she's rough.

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Speaker 3: I don't do fine.

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Speaker 4: It's even worse when Paul goes, oh, do you have

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Speaker 4: any other jeans to wear?

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, now mate.

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Speaker 4: I am not ready to go because I need ten

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Speaker 4: the rest of the night.

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Speaker 3: What a lucky guy. All right, let's go to the phones. Yes, yes, Clint,

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Speaker 3: just very quickly.

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Speaker 2: I just want to pick up on something you said,

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Speaker 2: because Lou asks you, how do I look right? You're

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Speaker 2: great if you say if you say love if you

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Speaker 3: Thank you clein.

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Speaker 2: So I just don't think you can win. You are

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Speaker 4: Do you even look at her? Because like, how do

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Speaker 4: I does this look okay? And Paul goes, yeah, great,

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Speaker 4: and he's not even looking at me. He's looking at

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Speaker 4: contact and can go No.

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Speaker 5: You look awesome.

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Speaker 3: I can see the reflection.

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Speaker 5: That'll get me call me babe, and I'll be like.

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Speaker 3: Okot, what's the go what's the line that can set

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Speaker 6: So to set the scene, firstly, we both come from

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Speaker 6: really big, loud Greek household and being the next generation,

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Speaker 6: what we really want to do is be better than them,

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Speaker 6: and we have a policy of no screaming in our house. Now,

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Speaker 5: You don't need to scream at me.

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Speaker 6: I can hear this, and I'm like, who's screaming? And

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Speaker 6: then it just seems to escalate and escalate, and we

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Speaker 6: basically just continue in the path of our parents. And

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Speaker 6: I know better than the previous generations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear the nail on the head.

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Speaker 4: I do that when someone screams that you stop screaming

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Speaker 4: at me, I do it to Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Go, I'm not screaming at you, So there's no need

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Speaker 4: Oh that's even more annoying. That's even Yeah, that's Peter.

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Speaker 3: What's the statement that always sets your partner off?

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Speaker 6: I'm surely I'm going to win the QT two hundred

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Speaker 6: and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 3: Goutcha, yep. What's the state hale that my poles? He

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Speaker 3: sounds scared, he sounds scary. Offense, you know.

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Speaker 6: In my defense here, guys, she takes to us to

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that when she goes, look we're leaving

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Speaker 3: at seven, I start getting ready at twenty to seven.

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Speaker 5: You know I didn't start getting ready. I'm just not ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm not yelling at you. It's not your segment.

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Speaker 6: It's not your segment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not yelling at you. There's no need

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Speaker 5: You're a dog, both of you.

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Speaker 3: Favorite time of the week.

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Speaker 7: I want you start, Jason Lawrence, tell me what you know.

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Speaker 3: Every week we get a different area of the police

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Speaker 3: in this week. Sergeant Andrew Nesbitt is a ballistics officer

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Speaker 3: in the forensic unit. Good morning, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Thanks having morning, Thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's do some top line stuff because this is complicated.

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Speaker 4: So you are a ballistics scientific officer, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Ballistics expert?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So anything that's involved in shootings a gun crime,

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Speaker 3: they call you, that's right, Yeah, yeah right, And.

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Speaker 4: So do you have to be a scientist as well

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Speaker 1: So I'm a Swan police member.

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Speaker 7: I'm a sergeant in police and I've had various different

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Speaker 7: areas of forensic training to allow me to do the

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Speaker 7: shooting scene reconstruction and forensic listenics role.

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Speaker 5: So do you always wear rubber gloves everywhere you go?

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Speaker 5: So you don't leave your sold.

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Speaker 1: To dress up.

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Speaker 7: But I don't want to be added to the database anyway,

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Speaker 7: So I thought I'll just slam up.

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Speaker 3: And maybe what TV show? I always like to know

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Speaker 3: what TV show or movie have you seen that would

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Speaker 3: be the closest to real life what you.

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Speaker 7: Do close to So I got into this because CSI

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Speaker 7: came on TV in high school.

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Speaker 3: Are You're a bit of a range around the bid

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to go it out a bit. But

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Speaker 7: TV shows and movies, they're all based on what we do,

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Speaker 1: But they're very hollywoodized, right yeah, right.

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Speaker 7: The big one that makes me cringe in one of

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Speaker 7: the Batman movies when he is able to three D

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Speaker 7: scan a wall that's got a bullet in it back. Well,

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Speaker 7: I don't want to break Batman for anyone, but when

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Speaker 4: So your team would go in when there has been

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Speaker 4: Grand Lynn murder trial. I know that wasn't you, But

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Speaker 4: would that be your team that will go into that

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Speaker 5: With a weapon.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: So if someone is wounded or injured, then we go

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Speaker 1: And our unit has had fairbaitive involvement in the greekling.

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Speaker 4: Come and what are you looking for when you walk

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Speaker 7: You walk into a crime scene and it's generally chaos.

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Speaker 7: There's ambulance debris and stuff everywhere. There's a bit of blood,

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Speaker 7: they might be dropped items, and it's all about just

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Speaker 3: So will you look at the how do I put

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Speaker 3: this the injury or gun wound to the victim? Yep?

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Speaker 5: Do you ever recover the actual bullet.

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Speaker 1: We do, yeah all the time.

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Speaker 5: And then do you look for things on that yep.

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Speaker 7: So in the case that someone is shot and killed

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Speaker 7: and we'll head down to the Morgan will assist the

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Speaker 7: pathologist in the post mortem, will be there when they

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Speaker 7: recover the bullets or fired shot. And once that bullet's recovered,

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Speaker 5: You must have seen some things in your.

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Speaker 1: Time, all sorts of weird, wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Because you've been doing this for eighteen years.

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Speaker 7: I've been in the job eighteen years and I've been

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Speaker 3: How do you go when you head home? Like Leaven

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Speaker 7: In the past, I have struggled with it. Yeah, better now.

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Speaker 1: Love my video games. They've always been my released.

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Speaker 3: You look like a scout to me a good stout

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Speaker 3: scout scouts you know kids like scouts on or Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Scout?

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Speaker 1: I have been for a very long time.

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Speaker 5: I thought you meant you were scouting for your police officer. No, No,

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Speaker 5: like search for a supermodel.

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Speaker 3: But look, I'll tell you what we're doing, Probe the

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Speaker 3: pay Per. We've got to take a quick break, Andrew,

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Speaker 3: if you're happy to stay with us, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Love it all right.

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Speaker 3: We are focusing on the Ballistics forensic unit this morning

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Speaker 3: with Probe the pay Per. We've got many more questions.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us.

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Speaker 6: I want you, Jason Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what's you know?

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Speaker 3: Sergeant Andrew Nesbert is from the Ballistics forensic You know

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Speaker 3: of the police. We love the work the crops too.

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Speaker 3: We love getting different areas the police in. Do you

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Speaker 3: still crap your pants when you've got a cop car

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Speaker 3: behind you in the traffic all the time? Yea cool?

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Speaker 4: It makes you think you're doing something wrong? It does

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Speaker 1: I just that constant fear of it. Don't want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Hey, I know you bought some props in

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Speaker 3: this morning and will be careful. How we describe things

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Speaker 3: because we know kids are in the car, but you

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Speaker 3: specialize in weapons and any firearm related crimes. That's right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: with a shotgun because the shotgun is very different to

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Speaker 3: a normal gun. Normal gun, just one bullet comes out. Correct,

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Speaker 3: Show Lauren what happens with a shotgun?

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is a shotgun like the long barrel on

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Speaker 7: A shotgun is one of the earliest forms of firearms, right,

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Speaker 7: and it's designed to find multiple pellets at a target

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Speaker 7: early days, you need to eat, you want to eat.

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Speaker 7: You want to shoot a rabbit. Yep, I'm going to

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Speaker 7: fire lots of projectiles at that rabbit, hopefully hit.

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Speaker 3: It so I can eat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so many bullets, many bullets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's all little ball bearings that come out.

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Speaker 4: But you don't want to touch it because I've got

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Speaker 1: And then no, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Going to be calling you, Sergeant Andrew, my witness.

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Speaker 7: They are led, so just make sure you wash your hands.

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Speaker 7: But they're in a bag so should be fine.

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Speaker 7: So that those pieces of shot gets sent out. And

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Speaker 7: there's also a wad which is a generally little plastic composer.

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Speaker 5: You only pull the trigger once and all of this

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Speaker 4: Wha.

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Speaker 5: It's like a confetti gun, a bad.

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Speaker 3: One, yeah, not like the confetti gun at spot.

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Speaker 7: And then depending on what target you're trying to hit,

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Speaker 7: is for your sporting trap shooting lots and lots of

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Speaker 7: small pellets. But this one's more of a hunting load

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Speaker 7: for rabbits or small game. There sgs or buckshots. So

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Speaker 3: When it comes to like a sniper's gun, right like

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Speaker 3: So it's a massive long bullet.

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Speaker 7: Not necessarily not in the case used in Trump. So

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Speaker 7: this is a fifty cal it's just a good size

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Speaker 4: Noveltic size one, or is that actually that's a real cotridge.

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Speaker 1: It's a dummy, but that's an anti material ruffle.

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Speaker 3: The reason I asked, like, in the situation like the

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Speaker 7: Where it's so you do have to be accurate. But

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Speaker 7: there's also a number of factors there. There's the accuracy

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Speaker 5: Did you watch the shooting at the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: I did watch the shooting Turkish guy. How sick is

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Speaker 5: How relaxed?

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Speaker 1: It's just come from a barue.

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Speaker 3: Miss I missed it. So goggles and everything, they went.

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Speaker 3: I got to say, when we're in Thailand years ago,

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Speaker 3: And when I fired that first shot, it was terrifying.

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Speaker 5: Did you go flying because they've got a lot of force.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I shot an sixteen and it was terrifying.

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Speaker 7: Like a machine gun, firearms are a tool and they're

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Speaker 5: So how's your aim.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually not a very good shot.

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Speaker 7: My right eyes really weak. I've got to I can

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Speaker 1: And not that so much.

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Speaker 7: If it's a gun that's just been founded a search

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Speaker 7: we'll take it down and we'll recover five bullets and

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Speaker 3: That matches any other cases, yep, Well.

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Speaker 1: We'll take that back, we'll examine it.

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Speaker 7: We've got a it's probably the most CSI thing that

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Speaker 7: we have in terms of its a laser that three

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Speaker 7: D scans the surface.

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Speaker 3: Sort of like in Batman.

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Speaker 7: Like in Batman, yep, and it'll build a three D

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Speaker 7: checks that against other crimes around the country. And we've

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's all digital these But is it terrifying how

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Speaker 3: many like guns that just get recovered from search warrants

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Speaker 3: are actually linked to past crimes that are unsolved.

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Speaker 1: There are more than I would expect.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're up to I think we're up to about

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Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty different now since we've had the system.

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Speaker 4: Me Jesus, I'm leaving literally like a DNA test for

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Speaker 4: a gun and a bullet.

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Ye, you guys get around in unmarked police cards. We do. Yes,

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Speaker 3: if you flash the badge in a dry throat, do

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Speaker 3: you still get a discount.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay off macas at the moment.

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Speaker 5: You look fit. You look fit, you can tell he's.

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Speaker 3: A bad shot. You can tell him what he really

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Speaker 3: looks like. Hey, Andrew, we really appreciate the work you do, mate.

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Speaker 3: It's an incredible job.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for keeping us safe.

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Speaker 4: Jason Lauren Jason Lauren Wake Up Feeling Good on No.

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Speaker 4: One hundred.

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