WEBVTT - Sharri | 3 October 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:03.279 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:05.120 This is Shari. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.240 Good evening and welcome to the program. Caleb Bond filling 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.280 in for Shari Markson tonight, the pro Palestinian protest debarkle 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.600 takes a new turn, with police withdrawing the court application 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.160 to cancel the rally or on that in a moment. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.760 Also tonight, the biggest pre election blunder that could further 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.040 damage the Queensland Labor Party. I'll show you what happened 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.440 a little later. Plus the internal polling Stephen Miles doesn't 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.840 want you to see and has origin energy burst, Chris 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.760 Bowen's Green Dream bubble. Well, the carry on with these 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.800 disgusting October seven protests, these plans to celebrate terrorism on 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.479 the anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel. Well it 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.120 continued today and there were a few interesting developments. The 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.120 first was that the New South Wales Police withdrew their 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.440 action in the Supreme Court to stop rallies in Sydney 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.920 on the sixth and seventh because the organizers, the Palestine 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.240 Action Group, agreed to change the route so it wouldn't 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.480 go past the Great Synagogue. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:06.360 Big deal. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.959 I maintain, as I said last night, that I will 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.559 defend your right to protest if you do it within 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.720 the bounds of decency, no matter how much I might 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.479 disagree with you. But what we are talking about here 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.520 is not legitimate protest. It is the glorification and support 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:28.200 of terrorism, which is potentially dangerous and could incite violence. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.280 They will now have a protest on the sixth, but 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.319 they've withdrawn their rally on the seventh. I'll get to 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.480 that in a moment. It is a joke that the 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.560 police pulled out of it. We have a serious problem 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.200 if you can walk around the streets of our capital 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.360 cities supporting terror attacks. But the other thing we learned 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.640 was that the organizers of the Sydney protest are a 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.280 pack of gutlers squibs now. As I told you last night, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.800 Their spokesman Josh Lise said that even if we were 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.360 to lose that case, we would go ahead with our 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.760 protest on the sixth. As for their rally on the seventh, 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.840 which they called vigil, he said this, it's outrageous that 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.200 the authorities would attempt to ban people's right to grieve 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.240 for their loved ones and family members who've been killed, 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.120 forty two thousand of them in Gaza, nearly two thousand 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.520 in Lebanon, except that they rocked up to court today 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.519 and agreed to scrap their rally on October seven, presumably 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.000 in the hopes it would convince the police and the 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.680 court to let them have their protest on the sixth, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.040 and maybe that was part of what helped get them 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.480 over the line in the end. I mean talk about 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.440 week as piss. Yesterday it was an outrage that the 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.520 police were quote unquote attempting to ban people's right to grieve. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.360 But today you were happy to sell those supposedly grieving 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.160 people up the creek so you could hold a protest 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.880 the day before. It proves my point again this isn't 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.960 about showing any genuine grievance against the war. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.720 It's not about concern over the loss of Seville life. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.720 You can protest any other time of the year and 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:09.160 they have been. The demonstrations this weekend are about supporting terrorism. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.400 It is signaling that they support the terror attack by 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.720 Hamas on Israel, more than a thousand people killed in 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.840 a day on October seven last year. They didn't withdraw 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.480 their October seven event because they realized it was insensitive 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.520 to hold a rally on the anniversary of a terror attack. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.680 They withdrew it because they want to hold a rally 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.040 supporting the October seven attacks, and if they have to 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.680 do it on the sixth, then so be it. They're 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.600 still going to hold a standing event on the seventh, though, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.680 which they call a vigil, just not a moving rally, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.280 which means it doesn't need police approval. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:45.720 But we know they. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.520 Won't be commemorating the lies of the live sorry of 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.839 the Jews and Israelis, the people who actually lost their 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.080 lives in a terror attack. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:54.440 On that day. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.920 Meanwhile, in Melbourne, the president of the Islamic Council of Victoria, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.120 Adel Salman, told The Herald's son that pro Palestine events 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.120 on October seven were quote unquote needed. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.440 He said, holding a vigil. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.520 On October the seventh for the more than forty thousand 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.760 lives lost in Israel's genocidal war on Gaza is needed 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.440 for the community to come together to share its deep 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.160 grief and anguish and to remember and honor the victims. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.920 No, no, no, no, no. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.279 October seventh is a day to share deep grief and 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.040 anguish over the one thousand, one hundred and thirty nine 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.760 people killed on that day in Israel again. You are 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.040 allowed to hold events commemorating the civilian lives lost in Gaza. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.839 You're allowed to hold protests against Israel, but for Heaven's sake, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.720 there is no reason to do it on October the 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.960 seventh unless you support Hamasa's terror attack and you're trying 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.800 to rile up I suppose the friends and family of 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.800 the victims of that terror. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.880 But I guess it's no surprise. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.000 Because this Grubb has previously refused to condemn Hamas for 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.000 October seven. And for what it's worth, Daniel Andrews said 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.960 today that to protest on October seven is shameful and disgusting. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.880 Even Daniel Andrews can see straight through it. And in Adelaide, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.280 where I am tonight, there'll be a rally on the 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.080 steps of Parliament House on October seven. Now, protests at 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:28.400 Parliament House need approval and they got it Independent South 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.200 Australian Upper House in p Frank Pangalo will join me 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.359 to talk about that soon. But again, anyone who rocks 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.960 up to a pro Palestinian protest this weekend is not 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.920 there out of genuine concern about the war. They are 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:46.120 there because they support terrorism and every single one of 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:52.560 them ought to be put on a watch list. New 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.400 South Wales Police Commissioner Karen web is in trouble again 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.680 because The Daily Telegraph got hold of emails suggesting she 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.640 knew about the ordering fifty bottles of gin on the 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:06.159 taxpayer dime from her friend's business, despite previously denying she 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.719 had any knowledge of the order. Now, when all of 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.760 this started and there was a big fuss over the 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.920 fact she was giving bottles of gin to dignitaries as gifts, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.960 I didn't think it was that big of a deal. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.640 Giving official gifts of alcohol is common in both the 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.120 public and private sector. I have no particular problem with that. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.520 But this story has changed significantly. The Commissioner told two 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.320 GB's Chris O'Keefe that the gin was used as gifts 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.360 for foreign dignitaries, as. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.440 I said, dignitares. We had an international delegation mid last 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:44.360 year that a dozen went to, and other international guests etc. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:50.360 The Minister has said in Parliament today that she received 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:55.039 one and then there's been others for corporate etiquette where 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.160 there's been in exchange of gifts. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.479 Note she said corporate exchange of gifts at the end 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.760 well on the list of people who received a bottle 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.960 is Alan Joyce when he was running Quantus. He's listed 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.920 as a dignitary on what grounds, I'm not sure. There's 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.920 also another name from Quantus listed as Luke Blanche. Will 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.920 ben Forden revealed on two GB this morning that there 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.080 is no one at Quantus named Luke Blanche. Also listed 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:27.080 were Michael Henderson and a Guarter Kenna from DEECPR. Now 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.440 mister Henderson has done work for a McLaren dealership where 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.400 the commissioner's husband was dealer principal, and she was photographed 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.880 next to Ms Kenna at a Women's Day event at 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.000 a Maserati dealership where her husband worked. She said today 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.760 that she engaged DECPR for media advice before she became 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.320 police commissioner. I mean I would have thought that the 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.080 payment they were given for their work would be thanks enough, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.760 and if she wanted to give them something else, thank 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.080 them for going above and beyond, she could have done 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.520 so out of her own pocket. I mean, Sky News 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.640 doesn't pay me for any gift, so I give my 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.040 producers at Christmas time. I pay for them because it's 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.720 a gift from me, a show of my personal gratitude. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.960 Not that of the company. But the biggest problem is 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.440 that she said that she had only found out about 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.000 the ordering of the gin after the fact. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:22.440 Just reading the lacc's findings here it says that Commissioner 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.200 web should have disclosed her association with the supplier of 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:27.160 the Commissioner's gin. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.800 What does it mean, Well, it means that. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.400 Well what it means, well, it's difficult to talk about 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.960 because there is a non publication order. So the statement 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.439 that the Lecker put out is all I can say 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:44.040 about it. But if you read that sentence in full, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:49.000 it means that I became aware after that I knew 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.960 the supplier, and you know I should have said so. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.240 But certainly I didn't organize a purchase, and so I 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.280 became aware after. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.680 Except that emails obtained by The Daily Telegraph suggests that 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.960 the Commissioner had instructed staff to buy jin from Hope Estate, 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.200 which is owned by her friend. One of her staff 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.640 emailed Hope Estate in October twenty twenty two to say 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:19.200 that the Commissioner wanted the blue labeled gin. Subsequent internal 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.640 emails show that a police employee questioned to Webb's then 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.240 chief of staff, Christine McDonald, how the media would respond 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.600 if it found out that the police force was buying 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.720 gin and advised against the purchase. McDonald then replied that 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.280 she'd discuss it with the commissioner. But Web maintained today 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.640 that she had no knowledge of the fact that gin 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.280 had come from her friend's distillery until after it had 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.520 been ordered, So she was certainly involved in the purchase 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.320 at some point. But you heard Webs say before that 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.800 she didn't organize the purchase. Something isn't right here. You 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.079 can't have this kind of thing hanging over your head 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.160 as a police commissioner. This is the same woman, by 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.800 the way, who said she hadn't watched and wouldn't watch 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.640 the bodycam footage of one of her officers tasering a 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.520 ninety five year old dementia patient, clear Nowland, who then 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.439 died after she walked towards him slowly on a walking 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.920 frame holding a stake knife. She said, I've heard what 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.320 is in the body worn and I don't see it 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.520 as necessary that I actually view it. I mean, you're 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.400 the police commissioner, for heaven's sake, of course you should 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.839 view it. And a police commissioner, of all people, should 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.000 be beyond reproach even the width of lying or misleading 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.640 the public, even if it's about Gin is a big problem. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.560 If Weeb isn't considering her position, the state government certainly 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:41.080 should be. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:46.880 But first let's get. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.960 A reaction from my panel, National Senator Matt Canavan and 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.120 Perth Mayor Basil Zemplss. I mean, these protests going on 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.120 this weekend. I cannot believe Matt that the New South 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.719 Wales Police actually pulled away from the bid to have 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.880 that protest on the sixth stop today. I just can't 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.679 see how it can be done safely. Even if it's 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.240 not going past the synagogue, surely it is willing for 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:11.760 a fight. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.079 Look, I have some sympathy with the New South Wales 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:21.160 Police here. I don't know all the details of what's happened, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.079 and obviously I believe they only have limited powers to 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:30.120 stop public gatherings of this kind. I'll save my condemnation 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.840 for the organizers of the event rather than you. Soevel's 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.080 police or I think are put in a tough position. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:41.079 I I you just you wonder sometimes whether the so 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.640 called Free Palestine movement or the officials that put themselves 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.960 out as the figureheads of this movement to secretly actually 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.440 doing the business of Israel. I mean, they act in 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.319 such a way as to deter reasonable people from having 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.800 sympathy with the Palestine cause, and count myself as one 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.839 of those people of the more Over the last year, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.640 I've learned more about the situation over there, and I 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:10.000 have been a ghast at the death of Palestinian civilians 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.240 and the circumstances they find themselves in. It's terrible, it's tragic, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.640 but their so called advocates here in Western countries do 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:22.040 them no favors by constantly kicking sand in other people's 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.880 faces totally unnecessarily. This is obviously going to be a 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.760 week of great grief for the Jewish community, and if 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.760 they were serious about helping the Palestinian people, they'd put 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.240 out an olive branch to those people who are suffering 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.480 from a great atrocity a year on, rather than Srina's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.800 choice score cheap political points for their own I think 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.040 domestic purposes and selfish purposes at the end of the day. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.600 But this is the point Basil, right. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.319 I mean, you can have your protest about ditsing Gaza 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.640 any other day of the year. They've been having those 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.360 projes for the better part of a year. There is 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.080 no reason to do it this weekend on October the 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.320 sixth or October the seventh, unless you're trying to signal 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.479 that you liked what happened on October the seventh. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.840 Absolutely correct, or at least at the very least being 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:21.240 particularly inflammatory with your choice of this weekend for those 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.400 protesters to gather. I mean, let's not forget we should 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.520 not forget this point. It is the anniversary, the twelvemonth 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:34.239 anniversary of the biggest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.600 That's what this date and this anniversary represents for the 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.640 Jewish people. And so anyone with any common sense or 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.160 any common decency would know that is not the time 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:50.520 to protest. It is and can only be considered as 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:57.520 totally disrespectful to the people of Israel. And so it is. Yes, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.920 it's been moved away from the synagogue. Most unfortunate that 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.240 it continues to happen. A bit like Matt, I have 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.680 sympathy with the police of New South Wales. What you 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.600 do hope, what you sincerely hope is that this gathering, 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.080 let's not even call it a protest, but this gathering 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.560 will be conducted peacefully. But there are no guarantees. That 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.360 is the problem. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.400 No, I think it's highly unlikely to be perfectly honest. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.840 Let's go to the Queensland election. They're three days into 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.600 the campaign up there and Queensland Premier Stephen Miles. My god, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.480 he had a stinker of a day. I think I'll 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:40.520 just let this clip speak for itself. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:42.440 I'll find out where the. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:44.760 Candidate. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.560 I don't have that detail in front of me. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.720 You don't know the name of the candidate that's running 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.040 for your team in the set that you're in today. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.480 Susan, Yeah, of course it's Susan. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:58.920 I was with it. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:14:59.720 The other names. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.800 Oh, Matt, it's so bad, isn't it. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.480 Look it's not his best day. Obviously I'm not always 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.080 the best with names. But keep in mind. My understanding 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.520 is that press conference was in the electorate where he 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.480 couldn't remember the candidate's name. I mean, if the guy 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.360 was serious about the Bruce high was there notionally to 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.800 talk about this issue the Bruce Highway for viewers around 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.560 another parts of the country. I'm not far from where 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.960 he held his press conference right now, and that highway 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.640 is an absolute go track at the moment. Massive potholes. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.440 It's a shocking state of disrepair under this government. And 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.040 he's notionally there to say he's going to do something 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.320 about it. And he doesn't even know the name of 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.160 the candidate who is meant to be representing the area. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.880 And I mean he has been a premier I think 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.200 over the past year. That's just all for show, not 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.120 a serious attempt to deal with the challenges facing this state. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.880 He has tried to put a pretty weak veneer on 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.680 a decaying and and tied government. And when you chip 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.600 away at that paint just a little bit your seat 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.080 that decaying underbody. And I think the coinsand people saw 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.080 that again today. They see it in the state of 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.680 their roads, they see it in the delays at their hospitals. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.880 They just want to stay government, to focus on getting 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.720 those basic services right. They don't have that right now. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.560 Now Basil your state of Wa. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.280 You've obviously got the former ALP senator Fatima payment. She's 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:31.120 now reportedly weeks away from registering her own political party. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.920 And the suggestion is that it would go beyond just 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.760 the state of Western Australia into marginal seats elsewhere. And 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.760 of course you know that the Albanezi government is a 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.680 little bit worried about shoring up support in areas with 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:48.240 a high Muslim population, particularly in Western Sydney. You've already 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.440 got Independent saying that they will go into those seats 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.880 and this party allegedly is not going to be religiously based. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.760 But we know why she left. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.880 It was over the whole gaza thing, and you'd have 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.560 to think she's going to try and get a piece 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:03.600 of this part. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.600 And it's a very strategic play, There's no doubt about that. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.040 I mean, any senator is free to do what they want, 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.359 especially once they have left the political party. The problem, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.520 of course, is that when Senator Payment was elected, she 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.720 wasn't elected as an independent, and she wasn't elected as 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.040 somebody who was going to go off and start her 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.600 own party and run candidates in other seats around the country. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.359 So that is the issue, and it is why it 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.719 is so important that every Australian absolutely understands that this 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.520 next federal election, who it is they are voting for 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:42.600 and what the ramifications of that vote will be, especially 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:47.040 when we consider and face or contemplate the prospect of 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.280 a hung parliament. Who is it that is going to 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.959 have the balance of power and that is something that 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:58.920 should both worry and have on high alert every Australian. 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.880 Here here bat in Basil. Thank you for your time. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.000 Well, South Australian Parliament, as I said before, has greenlit 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.720 a pro Palestinian group to protest on the first anniversary 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.479 of the October seven terrorist attacks. Now the decision has 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.919 left the Premier, Peter Malanowskas scrambling. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:17.840 He said it's inappropriate and. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.800 The police don't seem keen to cancel the event. Instead, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.200 Police Commissioner Grant Stephens warned that any material that condones 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.960 or supports promotes a terrorist organization or terrorism can be 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.200 the subject of prosecution under state law. Will I'm join 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:38.280 now sorry by South Australian Independent MLC Frank Pangelo. You've 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.000 written to the Premiere, You've written to the Police Commissioner 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.879 to voice your concerns about this. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:45.960 How did this get through? 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.800 Who actually approves a protest to occur. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:50.880 On the steps of Parliament House? 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.640 Well, applications need to be made to the Parliament through 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:59.280 the Procedures and Protocol Office, and the the organizers of 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.080 this protest have been doing this for almost a year 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.360 now and look I acknowledge that their protests have been 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.439 peaceful to date, but this one got through to the 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.160 keeper right because what had happened. They not only booked 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.960 the steps of Parliament House for Sunday, October sixth, but 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.560 they also booked Parliament on October the seventh for fifteen 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.679 hours from six am to nine pm. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:26.639 Now, I think this. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:31.320 Is deliberate, it's provocative and also probably intended to prevent 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.440 any other groups, particularly members of the Jewish community, from 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.919 going to Parliament and conducting a vigil. So it's all intended, 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:47.240 as you've pointed out, to essentially promote hate speech, anti Semitism, 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.680 which we've seen throughout the country, and at the same 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:57.360 time glorify terrorist leaders as heroes. And that's what they'll do. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.240 And on Sunday, you know they hope, well they've told 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.000 part they expect about one hundred people. I can't see 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.159 that happening. One hundred people, that's what they put on 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.200 the application and it's outrageous. And look, what is also 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.160 concerning Caleb is the Premier's attitude today. So he's come 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.439 out and you know he said he doesn't approve of it, 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.000 and you know it shouldn't be held the Foreign Minister 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.280 Penny Won has said the same thing. But what have 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:24.080 they done about it? 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:24.800 Well, this is the thing. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.480 What's the recourse here? 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.920 Right, So the Parliament makes a decision that they can 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.159 have it, but the Premier is not doing anything about it, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.720 the Police Commission is not intervening. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.000 What can actually be. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.879 Done well to stop this process short of trying to 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.560 do what U South Wales tried to do the copp 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.200 has tried to do and have it stopped in court. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.680 Well that's because they were head of the game and 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.000 knew what was going on, but here they got caught unaware. 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.920 I mean I only found out about it yesterday when 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.399 I had a look at the list of protests that 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.440 had been booked at Parliament House. A few people knew 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.120 about it and that's how we found out about it. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.360 But of course the Police Commissioner cannot act on it 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.199 unless something happens. And of course now they're going to 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:12.760 have to have additional police on duty on Monday, which 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.439 they didn't expect but now they have to, and they 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.400 will monitor it and make sure that if there is 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.120 any breaches of laws, Commonwealth and state laws. If they 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.040 do happen to show the Hesbeala flag or any placards 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.720 showing these slain terrorist leaders. They say that they'll move in. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.959 But you know the premier who says, you know, politicians 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:41.200 shouldn't interfere in political activities lot this and democracies, Well, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.960 I think that's quite disingenuous because they do. I mean, 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.440 what would you have done if there were a group 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.680 of neo Nazis that had planned to erect a march 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.920 in the streets, or Nazis or whatever, of course you 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.359 would act right now, it's disingenuous a premier. You should 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.480 have picked up the phone, called the organizers and said 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:04.600 to him, look, this is insensitive and please reconsider and 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.080 call it off, just like they've done in Sydney. But 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:07.879 he hasn't done that. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.720 Yeah, look something needs to be done about it. Frank Pangelo, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.760 thank you for joining me. And he makes a very 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.200 good point there. You know, if it were an event 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:18.119 being held to commemorate the beginning of the Holocaust, you 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.359 wouldn't allow that to happen. But you have an event 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.919 to commemorate the day a terrorist attack occurred against Jews, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.600 and you know, because it happened a year ago, we 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:28.880 don't treat it in the same way. 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.000 I don't know. It just doesn't seem right to me. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.760 While we're on the topic, the alban Easy government's all 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:37.000 over the shop again on Iran's attack on Israel. Here 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.639 were Deputy PM Richard Miles and Foreign Minister Penny Wong today. 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:47.159