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Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables.

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Speaker 2: We're advocates for having fun into your life and our

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Speaker 2: old intro was do what you want to do, be

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Speaker 2: what you want to be, A sleep with who you

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Speaker 2: want to sleep with?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we we would say that bit in our heads.

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Speaker 2: The Reliables podcast is hosted by myself, Audie Clark aka

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Speaker 2: Mummy and my partner in crime, mister Jake Craig aka Daddy.

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Speaker 2: You for joining us once again.

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Speaker 1: I had to sneak in there.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I did realize when I had it it

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Speaker 2: was a bit dog. When I cut you off last time,

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I was. I was asserting my dominance.

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Speaker 1: Ha, you're proven. Who wears the pants?

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Speaker 2: Yes, mummies always wear the pants Jake. This week we

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Speaker 2: haven't really been hanging out that much because I went away,

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Speaker 2: and I went away to do something that was probably

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Speaker 2: the most challenging thing in my life.

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Speaker 1: To this date, I think, and was it being away

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Speaker 1: from me?

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was an added factor. Sorry, I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: it could be. It could be, but I did run

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Speaker 2: a fifty k Ultra marathon, very very very cool. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and for any new listeners about would have been ages

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Speaker 2: ago six to maybe even nine months ago. It was

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Speaker 2: close to the start of the year. Yeah, maybe nine

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Speaker 2: months ago. Ten months ago. I challenged Jake on Patreon

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Speaker 2: to come to an ultra marathon with me, and we

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Speaker 2: started the journey together. I initially thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to register for the thirty, but he did the fifty

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Speaker 2: as well, and we both started really good.

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Speaker 1: We were strong words. He did the fifty as.

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Speaker 2: Well, but we both were trying doing our thing. But

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Speaker 2: unfortunately Jake got injuries because he's so old much a

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Speaker 2: in the kneecap area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the knee doctor said some people just not built

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Speaker 1: for running, and I was like, oh really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was a lone soldier now. But I

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Speaker 2: wasn't phazed because Jake also isn't from like a running background,

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Speaker 2: where I sort of do have a lot of running

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Speaker 2: in my backlocker.

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Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, I was getting into it. I was

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Speaker 1: kind of devote actually, because he said you were enjoying

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Speaker 1: it. It was like, you can get an xt ray won't

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Speaker 1: tell me much, or you can get like a cat

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Speaker 1: scam which is seven hundred bucks. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't like running it that much yet. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't quite like it that much.

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Speaker 2: It's honestly, the sport is quite the commitment too, because

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Speaker 2: you think in your head, I was just running. I'll

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Speaker 2: just buy a pair of joggers and I'm good. But

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Speaker 2: it's like the fuel, what it does to your body joggers.

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Speaker 2: Then you get an addiction to joggers, then socks, clothes

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Speaker 2: like for girls. It's all like the different tides and

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Speaker 2: the good brands LKD like allway, keep that pump whatever.

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Speaker 2: Actually really builds up on the price. But that's besides

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Speaker 2: the point.

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Speaker 1: It's a more expensive thought than you would think going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, way more expensive. Yeah, because you just think it's

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Speaker 2: such so simple as running.

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Speaker 2: So my race was on the Thursday, and then the

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Speaker 2: one hundred and the one h miler worth the next day,

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Speaker 2: and that's just a different game in itself. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: thing is wild. But I wanted to bring this up too,

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Speaker 2: because this is the first time I've experienced like my

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Speaker 2: body and my brain is telling me I can't do something,

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Speaker 2: but I still did it. Don't get me wrong. At

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Speaker 2: the time, I was fucking hating my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't think of I was thinking why did I do

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Speaker 2: this to myself? Like, oh, yeah, one hundred percent. I'll

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Speaker 2: run you through my race a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't asked for the exact reason of wanting to

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to actually say,

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Speaker 1: first time that it's been your body and your mind

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Speaker 1: saying I can't do this, and you're pushing it through. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what about when you're trying not to come.

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Speaker 2: Nah, your body is not like I suppose, it's a

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Speaker 2: to do this. Yeah, but it's different, uncomparable. Okay, it's uncomparable.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get myself in the same boat as you

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Speaker 2: You're trying to relate around here. But okay, okay, put

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Speaker 2: me off my game. So the race started at seven

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Speaker 2: There was nine hundred people in my race, and I

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Speaker 2: So we started the race first six k I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 2: And then I don't know, sort of a drelline takes

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Speaker 2: seventeen k's I was feeling good and that was the

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Speaker 2: The sun was coming out, but and I was feeling

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Speaker 1: To thirty eight, So you did so it was a

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Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty eight. Yeah, technically six to thirty eight, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's over, that's a twelve CA's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that that twelve k's is the hardest twelve

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Speaker 1: So you think, would you have been in a better

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Speaker 1: Would I would have gone so on the downhills?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't going that fast, like

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Speaker 1: I would have just gone slow because I was scared

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think adrealine did take over. But honestly, so

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Speaker 2: I kind of even explained it.

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Speaker 2: The sun started coming down. I was like, why did

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Speaker 2: Everyone was overtaking me, and shit, I was like, this

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Speaker 2: And then I'm also thinking to myself, I've got like

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Speaker 1: where Cassie's like, do you want to sit? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, is that the thirty eight k

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Speaker 2: I was like, but my body was honestly telling me

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Speaker 2: I was I was contemplating. I was like, fuck shit,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I can just walk and finished in like

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Speaker 2: ten hours if I really want to. But I left

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Speaker 2: But then I just found myself for some reason, and

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Speaker 2: I put Hamish and Andy's podcast in just to distract

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Speaker 2: myself from my own thoughts. Some reason. I was hating music.

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Speaker 2: I listened to music the whole time I was training,

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Speaker 2: but I was hating music. As soon as the song

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Speaker 2: What yes, I was just I was even nothing or

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Speaker 2: Hamish and Andy was a good distraction. So the last

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Speaker 2: thirty eight to fifty was going up Threadbow, which was

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Speaker 2: like majority of the elevation, which was about a thousand

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Speaker 2: meters elevated. And have you ever been You've been in

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Speaker 2: I got pissed. I was like, I've got to go

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Speaker 1: He said, he just like lost all control. Hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: your bodily functions. Oh my god, Well you obviously do

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Speaker 2: Thanks. And I saw one very nice fan was working there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Fan shout out actually, if we're talking about fan interaction,

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Speaker 1: shout out to the girl that said hi to me

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Speaker 1: at the beach a couple of weeks ago. That was

439
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Speaker 1: really nice. It's like super nice. Henry went in her

440
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: bag and tried to steal some food, so she's like,

441
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Speaker 1: I know you. And then the other day, the other day,

442
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Speaker 1: I was taking Beth, her best friend, Casey, and Henry

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Speaker 1: back to Sydney and we pulled, you know, the McDonald's

444
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Speaker 1: at Gosford. If you're a very very long time listener.

445
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Speaker 1: In one of the first episodes, ODDI prank called that

446
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Speaker 1: exact McDonald's and we just like went through the drive

447
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Speaker 1: through and the girl serving she looked at me, and

448
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Speaker 1: we can tell now like she like looked in she

449
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Speaker 1: saw Beth and she Henry and I was I just

450
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Speaker 1: feel like this is all confirming it for her. She

451
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Speaker 1: didn't say anything, but when we left, Beth was like

452
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Speaker 1: she definitely knew wo you were. And she was like

453
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Speaker 1: and we're in the gets. I was like, yeah, she's

454
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Speaker 1: probably thinking to herself, Fuck, they're struggling your tiny car. Alrighty, guys,

455
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Speaker 1: we a couple of weeks ago, actually were we kept

456
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Speaker 1: on body count topics come up and a reoccurring thing. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: it can't be super real. It was reoccurring. It kept happening,

458
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Speaker 1: and so we were talking about and we kept giving

459
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Speaker 1: a pinion, and then one day I was like, fuck it,

460
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Speaker 1: Like any dudes listening, I know that you're the minority

461
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Speaker 1: in our listeners, but and we love you, and any

462
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Speaker 1: dudes listening. If you do care about body count, because

463
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Speaker 1: it's always men that care, tell us why and we

464
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Speaker 1: will read it, give our opinions. Everyone's entitled to my opinion.

465
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Speaker 2: Should we say where we stand first? Just the recap and.

466
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Speaker 1: Easy thing of where I stand is, I just don't care.

467
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Speaker 1: I care about my girlfriend, but you know, one hundred.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is. Yeah, we both haven't asked

469
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Speaker 2: our partners what their body count is. I don't care,

470
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Speaker 2: and I think it's all about having fun and you

471
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Speaker 2: need to do all those things to find yourself exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but we got an email from a female listener.

473
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Speaker 2: Also, it wasn't a guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read it, it says, hey, guys love

475
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Speaker 1: the pod was listening to the latest step where you

476
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Speaker 1: guys just start, discussed how body counts shouldn't matter and

477
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Speaker 1: asked for any men listening who disagree to write in. Well,

478
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend, whilst he isn't a listener, is one of

479
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Speaker 1: these men. When we first started dating, I told him

480
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Speaker 1: very early that my body count was high, around one hundred,

481
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Speaker 1: and he told me his was around twenty to twenty five.

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Speaker 1: While I've always been openly comfortable with my past, sorry

483
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Speaker 1: with my past promiscuity, and I believe BodyCount shouldn't matter,

484
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Speaker 1: he admitted this is slightly off putting. His reason is

485
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Speaker 1: that it is more difficult for a man to sleep

486
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Speaker 1: with a woman than vice versa, meaning if a man

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Speaker 1: has a higher body count, he put in the work

488
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Speaker 1: to get to know the girl and in quotes riz

489
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Speaker 1: her enough to get her to bed, whereas women are

490
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Speaker 1: basically able to snap their fingers and a man will

491
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Speaker 1: sleep with them. With this reasoning, it implies a higher

492
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Speaker 1: body count for a girl means she gives it away

493
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Speaker 1: easier and therefore is less of a prize slash, it's

494
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Speaker 1: less special. Whilst I've vocalized my disagreement. I can't deny

495
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Speaker 1: I see merit in his argument. Keen to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I won't say her name. Interesting, Yeah, shit, I remember

497
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Speaker 1: when I first read it. I was I've had time

498
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Speaker 1: to obviously read I've read it, and I've had time

499
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Speaker 1: to think about it and stuff. So I was kind

500
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Speaker 1: of interested obviously to see what you had to think

501
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Speaker 1: about his I think it.

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Speaker 2: Really plays on you mentioned it on Patreon that there's

503
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Speaker 2: like this I don't know what it is, this crypto

504
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: guy minority of people who love like Donald Trump Andrew

505
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Speaker 2: Tate and have this mindset that like being an alpha

506
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Speaker 2: male is the way to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just very recently watched this well editing and

508
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Speaker 1: this was my analogy. I was like, so Donald Trump

509
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: got in, and as soon as Donald Trump got in,

510
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Speaker 1: Crypto loved it. Crypto went up. So everyone's jumping on

511
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Speaker 1: ball with done. All the crypto or bros are starting

512
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Speaker 1: to make videos and I was like, so it's like

513
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Speaker 1: crypto and then they meet them. As Crypto goes up,

514
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have a bike high body count.

515
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Speaker 2: Up's my analogy, and it goes off like all those

516
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Speaker 2: guys who are on like that pyramid scheme, who like

517
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: watched all the gym videos and take steroids and everything,

518
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Speaker 2: and like oupha blokes we said something about like the

519
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Speaker 2: god complex or something. Yeah, it's a god complex. And

520
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Speaker 2: I definitely see like playing Devil's Advocate, I see where

521
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Speaker 2: his brain is coming from. Yeah, and I do think

522
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Speaker 2: to a certain extent, girls can get sex more easier

523
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Speaker 2: than guys. But it's also very personalized. A good looking

524
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Speaker 2: guy can snap his fingers as well.

525
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Speaker 1: So here here's what I was saying. So I've showed

526
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Speaker 1: Beth this. Yeah, I've showed I've showed Harry this, and

527
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Speaker 1: I think what I came to after, Like, we spoke

528
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Speaker 1: about it for quite a while, Harry and I actually,

529
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Speaker 1: and you could make an argument right that, let's say

530
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Speaker 1: girls do get it easier, and so if she's got

531
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Speaker 1: a really high body count, maybe she doesn't think of

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Speaker 1: sex as something all that special, whereas, like, you know,

533
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Speaker 1: we lost our virginity with a girlfriend and it was special,

534
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Speaker 1: so from the start we thought it was special. So

535
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Speaker 1: she doesn't think of it as all that special. It's

536
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Speaker 1: not like a connection thing. And I was thinking about it.

537
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Speaker 1: I was thinking like maybe at one point in her life,

538
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Speaker 1: she didn't maybe she has a BodyCount of three hundred,

539
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Speaker 1: maybe she has a BodyCount of one hundred, maybe fifties

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Speaker 1: high in your opinion, And maybe she didn't think of

541
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Speaker 1: sex as all that special. But what if, like, you know,

542
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Speaker 1: who's to say that she didn't have a boyfriend, went

543
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Speaker 1: through a nally heartbreak and then also she's like, oh, well, fuck,

544
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Speaker 1: like I want to have some fun now, right, And

545
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Speaker 1: so she goes and she has some fun, but then

546
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Speaker 1: she's like, oh, you know what, this doesn't feel very good.

547
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Speaker 1: I feel a bit empty inside, like I want sex

548
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Speaker 1: to mean something. So then she's the next guy she

549
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Speaker 1: starts seeing she really likes him and sex means something.

550
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Speaker 1: But then he finds out she has a high BodyCount,

551
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Speaker 1: and he's like, oh fuck, you don't value sex, like

552
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, Like who's to say she

553
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: can't change on you can't?

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Speaker 3: You know?

555
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Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing. It's like there's so

556
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Speaker 1: many different like arguments and before actually before I forget,

557
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Speaker 1: Beth had a really really good point and she knows

558
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Speaker 1: this is like a fact. Actually I didn't know this

559
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Speaker 1: until she told us this. She told Harry and I

560
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Speaker 1: So sometimes a girl can go through a traumatic experience

561
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Speaker 1: with sexual assault or something along those lines, and because

562
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Speaker 1: in that moment she had zero control, right, she was

563
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Speaker 1: terrified and a man did something to her and she

564
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Speaker 1: had zero control of it. After that, it's not an

565
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Speaker 1: uncommon thing for a female to go hyper sexual, and

566
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Speaker 1: so she thinks, like she can actively think it or

567
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Speaker 1: even subconsciously think like, well, I'm never letting that happen again.

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Speaker 1: I will be having one hundred percent control of my body,

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Speaker 1: and so they actively make the decision like it's like

570
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Speaker 1: a thing of they become hyper sexual because they are

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Speaker 1: in control when they are like that. So it's kind

572
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Speaker 1: of also like if someone has a high body count

573
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Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh, you're a like sorr. I

574
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Speaker 1: shouldn't say that, but oh you're you know, value it

575
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, like you never know what

576
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Speaker 1: they've been through.

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Speaker 2: No, And also taking it back one step from that

578
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Speaker 2: obviously doesn't go into it as much detail as that,

579
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Speaker 2: But even if you have a breakup, it's sort of

580
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Speaker 2: the same effect, like you've got your heart completely broken

581
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Speaker 2: and you're like it's out of your control. It was

582
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Speaker 2: out of your control. You don't really know how to feel.

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Speaker 2: So you're just like, I'm going to have some sex

584
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be in a complete control of

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Speaker 2: everyone know who I have sex with. And I think,

586
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Speaker 2: going back to what we said at the start, I

587
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Speaker 2: stand by no matter how many people she or he

588
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Speaker 2: slept with, they did all that for a reason to

589
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Speaker 2: get to the beautiful person they are now. One person,

590
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Speaker 2: two people, one hundred people, doesn't.

591
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Speaker 1: Matter, not really.

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Speaker 2: In the end, she's now dating this guy, and this

593
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Speaker 2: guy probably frosts her because she has such a good

594
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Speaker 2: open mindset, loves the sex with her boyfriend because she's

595
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Speaker 2: experienced sex before, it knows what she likes. She's confident

596
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Speaker 2: in herself because she put herself out there so often

597
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Speaker 2: and she had to do all that to become this

598
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Speaker 2: beautiful girl. And this guy is just saying like, no,

599
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Speaker 2: it's just easy for you.

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Speaker 1: Like funny it.

601
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Speaker 2: Also, I'm being relatable. When I was Adeena used to

602
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Speaker 2: think that exactly thing.

603
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would have too.

604
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I see the argument from guys. I don't

605
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Speaker 2: agree with it. And if their mindset still is in

606
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: that mindset, it's completely naive. But I'm not going to

607
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: say it's the wrong mindset. You'd entitled your own opinion

608
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we got a comment on a video from

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Speaker 1: someone he was on the Spotify episode where we're talking

611
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Speaker 1: about body count, and I think we may have also

612
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: at the end of it been like, are you sleep

613
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: with whoever you want? Yeah?

614
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because we're advocates for having fun and it's

615
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: your life, and our old intro was do what you

616
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Speaker 2: want to do, be what you want to be, sleep

617
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Speaker 2: with who you want to sleep with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we would say that bit in our head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but his background was obviously a religious one, and

620
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Speaker 2: in his eyes, there's no gender role or playing it

621
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Speaker 2: that differentiates whether or not a high body count changes

622
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Speaker 2: the value of a person. And he just said in religion,

623
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Speaker 2: anyone with a high BodyCount is seen as less valuable

624
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Speaker 2: or less Yeah.

625
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we didn't want to go out there. I

626
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: think I just wanted to point out, like we don't

627
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: religion isn't something we are professionals. It's not a factor

628
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: in our lives and it's not a factor in our lives,

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Speaker 1: and so yeah, don't take if you're religious, I wouldn't

630
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: take anything. We say, Yeah, well, that's seriously it was

631
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: interesting to see that side of things because he was

632
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: coming at it from an equal point of view. Yeah,

633
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: because he said this whole thing about bodycounts and then

634
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: but he was like it go. He was like for

635
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: men and women. Yeah, He's like, it's and he was

636
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: implying like if I had a friend that had a

637
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: high body count, I would look He's like, I would

638
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: look him different. Yeah, I'd be like, you're impure. Yeah,

639
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck, fair enough, Like if that's

640
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: how you're raised, and like that's your genuine belief system,

641
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: like that is obviously you're fully entitled.

642
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: To that completely fine.

643
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, it's your choice in that matter.

644
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: It's interesting we're also finding out like even our point

645
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: of view, we obviously believe it, but it's not that

646
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: like black and white, like going into the assault or

647
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: heartbreak or like whatever the alpha fucking crypto guy or

648
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: the religion like mindset. None of it's right or wrong.

649
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: It's just like not really.

650
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Speaker 2: I guess it's very personalized, individualized, and I guess it's

651
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Speaker 2: good to for us to say that. I feel like

652
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Speaker 2: a lot of our friends as well get caught in

653
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: that out for bloke mentality. I'm glad when we were

654
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: turning to these podcasts ort to change down mindsets a lot.

655
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: But if we voiced a bit more that it's just

656
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: normal to have sex. Yeah, like okay talking about not

657
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: black and white. I was just kind of before I

658
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: knew we were going to talk about this today, and

659
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I just was like, fucking, I'm just going to go

660
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: look out. I just typed into YouTube.

661
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: I was like the body count argument, and a bunch

662
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: of stuff came up, and I was watching a few

663
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: videos and I watched one and it was with a

664
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Speaker 1: It was Chris Williamson, and he was interviewing a female

665
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: who was of assuming a doctor and something. Can't confirm

666
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: nor deny, but I think she was. She sounded like

667
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: she what she was talking about, and he asked. He

668
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: was like, he said, I have an interest in He

669
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: called it part of history jealousy or something like that.

670
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: So it's like you get jealous of something in their

671
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: history even though you didn't exist in to them yet

672
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: what they call it. I think he called it history jealousy.

673
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool.

674
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's so toxic and.

675
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: So he yeah, yeah, he's like having an interest in that.

676
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: He's like he's just a Guys really suffer with it, right,

677
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: And so he asked her, like, what is it with

678
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: mainly men? Some women really caring about a body count?

679
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: And she said that this, she said, with men, right,

680
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes men have a pre ah, It's like,

681
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: what's it called when you have like something that you

682
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: feel a predisposition, a predisposition like where you feel it

683
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: deep down. Basically, so they have a predisposition that their

684
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: partner's going to hurt them, even though they have shown

685
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: no reason that they would hurt them because of this

686
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: history thing. So no, no, no, Basically, like some guys

687
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: are just like insecure, right, and they go into a relationship.

688
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: There's that he could be insecure thinking maybe he's not

689
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: good enough, maybe well maybe she's not good enough, blah

690
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: blah blah. But like it's quite often men that care.

691
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: And so it's like they'll go into it with a

692
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: predisposition that the way that this is going to end

693
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: is that their partner's going to hurt them. And so

694
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: if they've shown no reason during the relationship and no

695
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: evidence that that's going to happen, what they look for

696
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: is something in the past. So if they have a

697
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: high body count, they'll turn that into something where it's

698
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: like it matters. They do it all subconsciously, and with women,

699
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: they don't actually really care about a high body count.

700
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: They more care about past partners. What worries them more

701
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: is a past relationship and not a past just like

702
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: one night stand, you know what I mean. So that

703
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: was one argument, and then to go even further away

704
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: from black and white, she's like, if you think about it,

705
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: you've got to look at it in a way of

706
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: like if someone has like, instead of looking at their

707
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: body count, what's their rejection rate? This part, I don't know.

708
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: You could question this part a lot, but it was like,

709
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: let's say there's a female that's fucking Victoria's secrets, supermodel.

710
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: She's got a body count of one hundred, but she's

711
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: rejected a thousand her rejection rates for obviously, you're not

712
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: going to go to someone and be like, what's your

713
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: rejection rate? But you know, or you've got a girl

714
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: that is beautiful but hasn't had heaps of attention from men.

715
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: She got a BodyCount of five, but she'sn't even approach

716
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: five times a rejection rates zero. Like there's so many

717
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: different avenues and that one you can really pick apart.

718
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: But also going that sort of disputes the out the

719
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: bloke's mentality because if a girl's if it's so easy

720
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: for a girl to have sex to the one who's

721
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: sent in that email, she's had has had sex with

722
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: one hundred people. Imagine a thousand people have come up

723
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: to her, she's rejected nine hundred and where these the

724
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: guy's had twenty.

725
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Five has he's had twenty five chances, and he's taken

726
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: twenty five chances. Yeah, you know, it's a funny, funny thing.

727
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: And then I watched another one other video of this

728
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: dude talking. He's a psych it's called like psychics or something,

729
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, well, imagine imagine your your

730
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: partner has had a BodyCount of twenty five and you

731
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: consider that high. Okay, But each one of those twenty

732
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: five guys, they made them wait a month to two

733
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: months to get to know them before they slept with them.

734
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: They had to make sure they had a connection all

735
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: that stuff because they valued the action of sex. And

736
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: then she tells you all those rules while you're dating

737
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: on the first few dates. But then she's so attracted

738
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: to you. She's so she's so infatuated by you that

739
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: she throws away all those rules that you know about,

740
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: and she wants to sleep with you on the second

741
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: or third day. And you're like, you'd be like, wow,

742
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: you wouldn't give a shit. He's like, guys won't give

743
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: a shit about the twenty five number because he knows

744
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: that they all those dudes had to work for it.

745
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: But I'm so attractive that I don't have to work

746
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: for it, So guys like get quite shallow in their mindset.

747
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: And then he was like, but if you look at

748
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: it this way, what if she has just one past relationship, right,

749
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: so she's only had one person she's ever slept with,

750
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: but he's a famous athlete, and she's told you stories,

751
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: and those stories sound amazing. They had the best time.

752
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: You'd think she was a porn star blah blah blah

753
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: blah blah. But then with you, it's different. You know

754
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: her past relationship with what it was like with this

755
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: d one famous athlete that you probably know his name,

756
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: you've seen him on TV. But with you, she made

757
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: you wait, and with you, the sex is vanilla. That

758
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: number one doesn't matter because you know what she's done.

759
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Like you could just pick apart every single thing. Yeah,

760
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: and so in the end, it's like doesn't matter.

761
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Well, in the end, all anyone should ever do is

762
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: try and get to know the person in front of them,

763
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: no matter their past.

764
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

765
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: Like it's also it's so dumb, like imagine like it's

766
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: judging someone like you said when you didn't know the

767
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: imagine if they had something traumatic in their past and

768
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: like something that's way more important than BodyCount and you're

769
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: just like like, oh, so you went through that now

770
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm good.

771
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so shallow, and I think, yeah, I don't know.

772
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm still intrigued to get I would like

773
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: more emails with like with arguments of towyet matters, because

774
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: again I want to point out it's everyone's entitled to

775
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: their own opinion, and I don't want anyone to take

776
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: what we're saying and be like, oh, my boyfriends like

777
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: the complete opposite, I need to break up with them,

778
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: Like that's not what we want. I think like there's

779
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: some guys that maybe haven't heard the arguments that we

780
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: could put out there, and if they were to hear it,

781
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: like they could change their mind. I know my mind's

782
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: been changed, but with multiple things same.

783
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I think especially in like American media,

784
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: they're a lot worse than Australia. And that's what we

785
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: consume especially is whatever route your boyfriend or any guys

786
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: have ended up on TikTok YouTube or anything like that.

787
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: I saw a video of like have you seen Kysonat's

788
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: blowing up with like getting celebrities on his streams and stuff.

789
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: He got one of his people who when he goes

790
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: to sleep, he shouts out everyone and they do like

791
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: a motivational thing. Kevin Hart's done it, Drewsky has done it,

792
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: John Cen has done it, and this guy did it

793
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: and he was completely delusional in himself thinking that like

794
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: he was trying to motivate people. And obviously Kevin Hard

795
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: did stuff about like finding intrinsic motivation and being finding

796
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: yourself before you find money and yeah yeah, but this

797
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: guy was he's a young guy and he was completely

798
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: delusion on himself, and he said, work on your money

799
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: because that's all girls care about, and then you get sex.

800
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: He said, he said it in a way and everyone

801
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: was like the whole comments were like this guy believes that,

802
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: oh he said it.

803
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: With pure belief.

804
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: He said, you've been trying to motivate, but he wasn't

805
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: taking the piss, and then Kayson was looking at him

806
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: like what the hell and he's like He's like, props

807
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: the ki for making me get earned money, and like

808
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: now I'm getting girls because of that. But that's what

809
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: the guys fall into. They fall into, like I'm gonna

810
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: make a Pyramids game. I'm gonna make money. That's gonna

811
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: get me girls. I'm going to have heaps of sex.

812
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: That's all that many like eighteen to twenty four year

813
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: old guys, that's what they care about. They get in

814
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: this little realm of TikTok out for fucking that little

815
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't even bubble on the internet that you shouldn't

816
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: be on. That's all they consume and they think it's normal.

817
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: It's going back to like that pack mentality we talk

818
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: about with men, whereas like it's not right, it's not on,

819
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: but they think it's right because there's some many people

820
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: doing the same thing as them. It's like we've talked

821
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: about like cat calling and stuff. It's obviously become normal.

822
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Is completely wrong because a group of guys do it

823
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: and no one says anything, and they all like back

824
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: each other. And then the young person who's thinking, like

825
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know where I want to do it be

826
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: in my life thinks that's normal, or thinks objectifying women

827
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: or thinking the caring about BodyCount is normal. There's that

828
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: pack mentality that boys fine, and obviously it comes down

829
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: stems back to like some deeper thing that underlies from

830
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: us fucking hunting back in the day with men and

831
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: just being.

832
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Boys, but which is weird. Like also if you think

833
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: about it, and a good example you said it yesterday

834
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: is like even completely off topic, just more onto the

835
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: topic of comparing yourself. It's like when you do the

836
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: way the internet works is tricky because when you do

837
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: get caught in a bubble, like the algorithm really knows

838
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: who you are, Like the algorithm knows you better than

839
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: you really know yourself, Like you don't know what you

840
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: want because you don't know how many milliseconds you're looking

841
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: at something longer than the last thing, But the algorithm

842
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: does because it's all fucking genius, you know, and so

843
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: like us for instance, like my algorithm is quite a

844
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: bit of currently it's a lot of planes, and I

845
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: love it, but my algorithm is it's a lot of

846
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of podcasts, say in my podcast, and

847
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of podcasts. And also but it's a

848
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: lot of really big podcasts, right, And we've been told

849
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: time and time again, you guys are doing great, you're

850
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: doing great, Like you guys are pretty big voweling you've

851
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: been in it, and we're like, thank you so much,

852
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much, And like, I don't think it's

853
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: that we don't believe it, but it's that I'm comparing

854
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: myself to this up top whereas like we actually have

855
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: done pretty good on the scheme of things, but like

856
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: we don't feel it because of the yeah, and it's

857
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: because that's the world we're in. If we took a

858
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: step back and like we weren't in that world, there's

859
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: a chance we might feel fucking really like we might

860
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: be like we are the top, fucking.

861
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, with broad spectrm. We talk about it, like he's

862
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: saying on Instagram and TikTok, it's the best way to

863
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: compare yourself to people who you shouldn't compare yourself to exactly,

864
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: Like you get stuck in the realm of if you're

865
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: doing six or eight change and you've lost five kilos

866
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: and you're obviously still looking like any normal human. You

867
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: don't have a six back, and you're a bit fluffy.

868
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: And then you see fucking the most ripped girl or

869
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: guy who has the skinniest waist in the biggest shoulders.

870
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: It edits their photo and then you see that and

871
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: you think, fuck, like that wasn't really worth it. I

872
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: still look fluffy like that, I'm just going to go

873
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: back to my old ways. Why would I fuck have

874
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: even wasted? But in reality, you just lost fucking five

875
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: kilos in eight weeks and you're doing great, very proud

876
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: of yourself. Yeah, they should put like a disclaimer like

877
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: they're trying to ban in Australia like sixteen year old kids.

878
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever going to work, like going

879
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: on social media you have to be sixteen.

880
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

881
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: They should be like there should be some type of

882
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: disclaimer on social media, but saying like just have fun on.

883
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: It'll tell you what. It'd be one of those things

884
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: there where it's like do you agree to term terms

885
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: and conditions and I'm just like, yep, I didn't read them. Yeah,

886
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: don't tell me about no disclaimer, get out of my face.

887
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I want to go scroll.

888
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't think anything or anyone ever's going to work

889
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: because unconsciously we never want to know that. But when

890
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: you consciously sit down and think about your kid's future

891
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: or anything like that, that's when you do care.

892
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: It is.

893
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's funny BodyCount social media navigating that

894
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: as we get older, and.

895
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very funny.

896
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you what we need to do from here

897
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: is go on to like one of those blokey podcasts.

898
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: You obviously don't talk about their feelings. They probably haven't

899
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: mentioned bodycout before, but they don't go in depth about it,

900
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: and like have a little rebuttal or get some of

901
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: their fans to send in their rebuttals about BodyCount. Yeah,

902
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: and we'll be like, well, we honestly want to come

903
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: from a I want to keep getting email.

904
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want more email.

905
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: Open minded mindset, and then like see where people come from.

906
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you agree, send us an email. If you

907
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: don't agree, send us an email.

908
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: I want to know.

909
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like relatable sixty nine at gmail dot com, send

910
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: us a fucking email title at body count rebuttal. Yeah,

911
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: let's go. If you've made it this far. You really

912
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: are a real one, and you want to know who's

913
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: not a real one. The person to my left, he

914
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: may have said something before we started recording a couple

915
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: of days ago when I got it, but I got

916
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: a haircut, guys, and he hasn't said a single as

917
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: soon as you got it.

918
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: That's bullshit.

919
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: But it doesn't count if it wasn't on camera. We

920
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: know this.

921
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: I said it, and you sent me a photo of

922
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 2: yourself and I picked it up. On photo I said,

923
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: nice haircut and your mustache is out of shape. That

924
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: is a good friend. First photo I saw you with

925
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: the new haircut. Yeah, take it back right now.

926
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't take it back because you didn't do it

927
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: on camera. We have no proof of that transaction.

928
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: You know why. I'm also a good friend. I've got

929
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: you a scrub daddy and a scrub mummy m waiting

930
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: for you.

931
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Got used, No, you got new ones.

932
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: Cassie's parents, my girlfriend's parents bought you a mafter listening

933
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: sitting at a bag at home. I've got to give

934
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: him to you. You can have these. You're a present

935
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: for you, man, so you can have them, right.

936
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: I'man titled to them.

937
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: Just beak you Cassie's parents are be grateful, and your

938
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 2: mustache is still out of shape.

939
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I fucking looked at I trimmed it.

940
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: I looked at Beth in the face. I said, it's

941
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: in your shape. She said, yes, it's because this side's

942
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit blonde and this sid's dark.

943
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? It's because his face is lopsided.

944
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: You know what's actually crazy? And went to the chiropractice

945
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: today and I said to him. I was like, dude,

946
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I was like, before I leave, my jaw clicks and

947
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, one side is really tight, and

948
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so weird. Ever since I started

949
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: the podcast, like an editing, I've noticed my face is asymmetrical.

950
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: Always been like that, mate, That's why it has always

951
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: been like that. But I think he's going to fix it.

952
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's hope. Well, everybody Patre and

953
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: five Stars five Stars at the end of the year,

954
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: we love. Yeah.

955
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: He was like, mass.

956
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: That's how to get someone back. I'm going to fix

957
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: your face, mate,