WEBVTT - Sharri | 22 January

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<v Speaker 1>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sky News, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharry Good Evening tonight, I'll lift the lid on deeply

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<v Speaker 3>irresponsible claims from the AFP and alban Easy. I can

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<v Speaker 3>reveal there is no tangible evidence at all pointing to

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<v Speaker 3>foreign actors funding anti Semitic attacks in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>No tangible evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll expose these claims as at a speculative line of

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<v Speaker 3>inquiry at best. That exclusive coming up also tonight, when

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<v Speaker 3>will Albanisi call the election? I'll bring you inside information

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<v Speaker 3>from a political analyst. In a moment and Milania's agenda

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<v Speaker 3>in the White House revealed, Liz Burke would join me

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<v Speaker 3>to speak about what the.

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<v Speaker 4>New First Lady has planned.

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<v Speaker 3>Also on the show tonight, an Israeli daughter whose father

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<v Speaker 3>was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist. The killer now set

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<v Speaker 3>free under the hostage deal. His daughter will join me

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<v Speaker 3>to share her reaction. Okay, we're finally seeing some arrests

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<v Speaker 3>in relation to the anti Semitic attacks. Here are the

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<v Speaker 3>details of nine people arrested for their alleged involvement in

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<v Speaker 3>recent violent incidents. Now this is important because we need

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<v Speaker 3>a name and shame who these grubs are, and we

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<v Speaker 3>need to know their motivation for committing these alleged attacks

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<v Speaker 3>against Australian Jews. Will you remember the Wallara attacks in

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<v Speaker 3>December where kill Israel and death to Israel was scrolled

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<v Speaker 3>on buildings and a car was set on fire. A woman,

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<v Speaker 3>Tammy Faruja, aged thirty four, has been charged in relation

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<v Speaker 3>to the incident, and her boyfriend, Scott Marshall is facing

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<v Speaker 3>unrelated charges to the Wallara incident and is presently on

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<v Speaker 3>remind in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Well here they both are.

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<v Speaker 3>Tammy's home in Liverpool in Sydney's West was raided by

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<v Speaker 3>police on Monday morning. Leam Mendy's in The Australian reports

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<v Speaker 3>that social media posts made on December tenth, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the day before the attack by that mother of five,

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<v Speaker 3>will be relied on in court where she allegedly asked

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<v Speaker 3>if anyone had Jerry Kn's she could use and you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at that social media post on the screen. The

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<v Speaker 3>Australian also reports that according to a social media profile

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<v Speaker 3>in her name, Feruja wrote that she'd been raided on

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas Eve and her partner had been locked up and

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<v Speaker 3>that our phones got seized. Now we won't know until

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<v Speaker 3>police present their facts, their case in court. Why Faruja

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<v Speaker 3>allegedly decided to engage in those activities. Her social media

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<v Speaker 3>profiles don't contain any activism against Israel. Then there's the

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<v Speaker 3>first Willara vandalism spree, when, as you remember, ten cars

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<v Speaker 3>and buildings were vandalized and torched in November. Well, three

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<v Speaker 3>men have been charged, Muhammed Farhat, he's aged twenty, Also

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Stoyanevsky nineteen, and a third twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 3>man who hasn't yet been named. He'll being caught for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time in early March. Now I've already reported

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<v Speaker 3>that Muhammed Farihat allegedly has a Hezvila tattoo on his neck.

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<v Speaker 3>He was arrested at Sydney Airport before a flight to

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<v Speaker 3>leave the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Now let's look at.

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<v Speaker 3>The Newtown's synagogue arson attack, and there was an arrest

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<v Speaker 3>made today. Adamule aged thirty three. He was arrested by

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<v Speaker 3>police at his home in Camperdown. As you can see here,

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<v Speaker 3>he has on his fingers if you look closely, a

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<v Speaker 3>tattoo that says nineteen forty one. He's allegedly one of

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<v Speaker 3>two masked, hooded men who were captured on CCTV sprang

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<v Speaker 3>swastikas on the Newtown Synagogue eleven days ago before preparing

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<v Speaker 3>to set it alight and luckily the fire burnt out.

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<v Speaker 3>Then four men have now been charged in relation to

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<v Speaker 3>the fires at Lewis Continental Kitchen in Bondai and the

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<v Speaker 3>Curly Lewis Brewery in Bondi in October, Guy Finnegan thirty one,

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<v Speaker 3>Craig Bantoft twenty seven, one Aaoumi twenty six and Wayne

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<v Speaker 3>Ogden forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Police alleged that two of.

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<v Speaker 3>The men were asked by someone they had in their

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<v Speaker 3>phones on the encrypted signal chat conversation app as James Bond,

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<v Speaker 3>and they met him in person as well in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 3>and police alleged that James Bond was asking two of

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<v Speaker 3>those men to burn down the Kosher kitchen in Bondi,

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<v Speaker 3>but instead, in a case of mistaken identity, they got

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong place and touched a brewery instead. Now one

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<v Speaker 3>of these men, Guy Finnegan, was only given a ten

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<v Speaker 3>month sentence ten months. Premier Chris Minn said this just

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't good enough and police will appeal it.

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<v Speaker 5>We need to send a strong and unambiguous message that

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<v Speaker 5>you will face the full force of the law and

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<v Speaker 5>we expect and we hope that when police do the

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<v Speaker 5>job of arresting these individuals and putting them before the courts,

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<v Speaker 5>significant sentences are handed down.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's right, of course, there needs to be strong sentences,

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<v Speaker 3>not a light touch to these serious attacks. Now, this

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<v Speaker 3>is really positive news that some of these grubs like Guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Finnegan have been convicted.

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<v Speaker 3>The police have come a long way from that disgraceful

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<v Speaker 3>press conference where they nitpicked the precise anti Semitic phrase

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<v Speaker 3>that was uttered at the Opera House and claimed there

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<v Speaker 3>were no problems. As the Premier Chris Mens now acknowledges,

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<v Speaker 3>these violent attacks begin with words.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone who preaches hate in our community, who sets about

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<v Speaker 5>dividing Australian against Australian and undermining what it means to

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<v Speaker 5>live in Australia in twenty twenty five, will be subject

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<v Speaker 5>to the laws.

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<v Speaker 3>Men's is throwing police resources at these attacks and they're

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<v Speaker 3>making headway, but there are still many unsolved incidents. The

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<v Speaker 3>childcare center fire bombing, it just took place yesterday, the

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<v Speaker 3>Dover Heights attacks, the Southern Sydney Synagogue vandalism, the ADAS

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<v Speaker 3>synagogue in Melbourne. The perpetrators behind all of these major

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<v Speaker 3>incidents remain at large, and so do the attackers behind

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<v Speaker 3>many of the vandalism on political offices. The police minister

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<v Speaker 3>in New South Wales insists that there are good lines

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<v Speaker 3>of inquiry into some of these.

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<v Speaker 6>There is good progress on the attack on the synagogue

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<v Speaker 6>in Aliwa, very strong leads for investigators in that one,

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<v Speaker 6>as well as the daycare fire at Maruba yesterday. There

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<v Speaker 6>are very good lines of inquiry.

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<v Speaker 4>Well the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>He claimed today that some of the perpetrators were being paid,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps by overseas actors, the implication that.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't his problem, not his fault.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm reluctant to say anything that compromises those investigations, but

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<v Speaker 7>it is important that people understand where some of these

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<v Speaker 7>attacks are coming from. And it would appear, as the

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<v Speaker 7>AFP Commissioner said yesterday, that some of these are being

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<v Speaker 7>perpetrated by people who don't have a particular issued, aren't

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<v Speaker 7>motivated by an ideology, but are paid actors. Now it's

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<v Speaker 7>unclear who or or where the payments are coming from.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've spoken to police and government sources today, Senior ones

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<v Speaker 3>and I can tell you that in the majority of

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<v Speaker 3>cases this is blatantly untrue that any foreign actors were involved.

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<v Speaker 3>This claim is an unproven and damaging distraction. Whether there

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<v Speaker 3>have been foreign payments made is just one line of inquiry,

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<v Speaker 3>one line of inquiry being investigated by the AFP in

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<v Speaker 3>relation to mostly Victorian cases that the AFP are involved in,

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<v Speaker 3>and even that is speculative. I have confirmed there is

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<v Speaker 3>no tangible evidence at all pointing to foreign actors being involved.

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<v Speaker 4>So, just to.

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<v Speaker 3>Reiterate that very important point, there is no tangible evidence

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<v Speaker 3>pointing to foreign actors being involved in these anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 3>attacks in Australia. Certainly isn't relevant to the childcare firebombing

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<v Speaker 3>of yesterday, or the Dover Heights attack or any of

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<v Speaker 3>the instances in Sydney when New South Wales police are investigating,

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<v Speaker 3>and the idea that Russia or China or r Mus

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<v Speaker 3>could have been behind this is being dismissed by serious

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<v Speaker 3>players as ludicrous. Now tonight The Australian has published a

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<v Speaker 3>story about a criminal being referred to as James bond

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned this a moment ago. Who was behind the

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<v Speaker 3>arson attack in Bondi, well, look at the message sent

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<v Speaker 3>from this James Bond on signal and tell me whether

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<v Speaker 3>you think it sounds like someone overseas.

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<v Speaker 4>Use the F word. Obviously I won't say.

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<v Speaker 3>Use f use as in he sang to them, use

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<v Speaker 3>stuffed up the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if us.

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<v Speaker 3>F couldn't do it from the start, then why did

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<v Speaker 3>you whose even went there for f me It's not

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<v Speaker 3>even done two percent burned, F me debt, f me debt.

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<v Speaker 4>Very Australian phrase now.

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<v Speaker 3>James Patterson, the Shadow Home Affairs Minister, was also doubtful

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<v Speaker 3>that any foreign actors were involved.

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<v Speaker 9>Prime Minister has not said whether he was briefed on this,

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<v Speaker 9>when he was briefed on this, whether the National Security

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<v Speaker 9>Committee of Cabinet has met, whether our intelligence agencies have

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<v Speaker 9>bread brought into this, whether he's discussed this with our

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<v Speaker 9>Five Eyes partners, and what action he is taking if

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<v Speaker 9>it is indeed true that we have a foreign sponsored

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<v Speaker 9>campaign of terror against the Jewish community in our country.

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<v Speaker 9>Also yet to be explained is why it appears that

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<v Speaker 9>so far Australia is unique in being on the receiving

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<v Speaker 9>end of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the Prime Minister, yet again trying to

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<v Speaker 3>shift blame for a serious problem that's arisen under his watch,

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<v Speaker 3>a wave of domestic terror that his government is ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for, and they can't blame anyone else, certainly not

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<v Speaker 3>foreign actors. My sources tell me that some cases are

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<v Speaker 3>motivated by the Israel Gaza war. And as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>we know that one of the men has a Hesbala tattoo.

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<v Speaker 3>But other perpetrators are being investigated by police for white

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<v Speaker 3>supremacist and neo Nazi ideology. That's why swastiks have been

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<v Speaker 3>painted in the vandalism. An AFP Detective Superintendent David Craig

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<v Speaker 3>said today that this terror was home grown, homegrown terror.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a look at his strong comments on Sunrise.

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<v Speaker 10>So just briefly, are you saying this federal government has

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<v Speaker 10>allowed this sort of hate speech to fester.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that I've done a six different prime ministers

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<v Speaker 2>in the Australian Federal Police, a lot of my time

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<v Speaker 2>in CANA terrorism, and I've never seen such a jelly

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<v Speaker 2>jeweled Spino's response to hatred and UnAustralian behavior by a

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's right and everyone knows it. Even Israel has

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<v Speaker 3>had to try and intervene to get Albanezi to take

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<v Speaker 3>tough action on anti Semitism. Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Sharan Haskell,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, a regular on this program. She told

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<v Speaker 3>me on Monday night that the Albanese government was to

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<v Speaker 3>blame for anti Semitism, and then she made similar comments

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<v Speaker 3>on the ABC today.

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<v Speaker 11>Obviously, the attitude of the current Australian government towards Israel

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<v Speaker 11>is inflaming a lot of these emotions and giving, I guess,

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<v Speaker 11>some acceptance when you do not fight it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>what are they waiting for for someone to die, for

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<v Speaker 11>someone to be murdered?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Tony Burke hit back at her, claiming she was

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<v Speaker 3>wrong and that the criminals aren't paying attention to his

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<v Speaker 3>government's policies towards Israel.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't believe that the sorts of thugs that are

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<v Speaker 12>engaging in this sort of behavior are checking what's happening

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<v Speaker 12>in the General Assembly of the United Nations when it

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<v Speaker 12>meets in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, they still don't get it. They've

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<v Speaker 3>never taken this problem seriously. Albanesi's top government ministers insisted

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<v Speaker 3>on speaking about Islamophobia when asked about anti Semitism. That

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<v Speaker 3>was downplaying what was unfolding before their very eyes. This

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<v Speaker 3>national security crisis should have been the top priority for

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<v Speaker 3>the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, but of course Jews

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<v Speaker 3>aren't his constituents in his Western Sydney marginal seat, so

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<v Speaker 3>it seems that our safety mattered less to him. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Burke and Albanesi and Penny Wong gave visas to

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<v Speaker 3>nearly three thousand Palestinians in Gaza, allowing them to come

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<v Speaker 3>to Australia, where they're now going to permanently stay, despite

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<v Speaker 3>Pennywog initially saying that they were just temporary visas.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>The Albanese government is taking the risk of literally importing

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<v Speaker 3>hatred against Jews. If they cared about antisemitism, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>do that. They've also continued to found the flames of

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<v Speaker 3>antisemitism by repeatedly criticizing Israel, which only emboldens the aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>pro Palestinian activists. You see the Prime Minister, you see

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<v Speaker 3>it day in day out. In the one breath he

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<v Speaker 3>criticizes Israel and in the next he calls for calm

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<v Speaker 3>on the Middle East issue on our streets. His inconsistent

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<v Speaker 3>messaging is part of the problem. He could have instead

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<v Speaker 3>prioritized calming tensions.

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<v Speaker 4>He can't solve the war.

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<v Speaker 3>In Gaza, but he chose not to do that, and

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<v Speaker 3>neither did Pennywog, who has overseen the most hostile foreign

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<v Speaker 3>policy towards Israe in Australian government history.

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<v Speaker 4>She has overturned a.

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<v Speaker 3>Long standing bipartisan foreign policy towards Israel and treats our

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<v Speaker 3>ally like it's our enemy. She has not been a

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<v Speaker 3>friend of the Jewish homeland and she's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most despised politicians in the entire Jewish community. And now

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<v Speaker 3>she'll be attending the eightieth commemoration of the Liberation of Auschwitz.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an insult to the memory of the millions who

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<v Speaker 3>lost their lives in the Holocaust, and Holocaust survivor Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Krauss told me today that she just shouldn't be going.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't believe she is an appropriate person, but I

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<v Speaker 13>do believe that she does actually represent our present government.

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<v Speaker 13>And I regret to say that for the first time

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<v Speaker 13>in what is it seventy seven year years that I've

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<v Speaker 13>been an Australian, that I'm ashamed of the way Australia

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<v Speaker 13>is behaving with regard to that, I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 13>she is the right person to be Foreign Minister given

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<v Speaker 13>the approach and attitude that she has demonstrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get reaction to this from the former president

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<v Speaker 3>of the Victorian Liberal Party, Michael Kroger and farmer labor

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Graham Richardson.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to you both. Michael Kroger, what do you think

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<v Speaker 4>of this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this nonsense suggestion that foreign actors are responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm speechless, as I am every day when I

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<v Speaker 1>hear Albanesi speak or Penny Wong speak. I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be Frank Shari. This federal government led by Albanesian Wong

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<v Speaker 1>exudes hatred for the and contempt for the Jewish state

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<v Speaker 1>at almost every opportunity, apart from obligatory things like the

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<v Speaker 1>docksing legislation, etcetera, which you know that's easy to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a prime minister that has he ever been

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<v Speaker 1>to Auschwitz or Oschwitz as he calls it. Has Pennywong

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<v Speaker 1>ever been to Auschwitz? I mean I was at Auschwitz

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago and Auschwitz berken out. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>this to Penny Wong Auschwitz is not a place for

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<v Speaker 1>your Penny. It is not a place for you to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You on day one after October seven, Penny, when Jews

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<v Speaker 1>were beheaded, tortured, raped, mutilated, and taken prisoner, you called

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<v Speaker 1>on the Jewish state to exercise restraint, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>worse ever since. You will have been a paria yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, You'll be a pariah in Poland. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this to Albanisi. For goodness sake, Anthony, show you

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<v Speaker 1>some decency, mates. Sends the Speaker of the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 1>or Andrew Charlton or someone who's at least pro Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>to our Schwitz to send Penny Wong after falling over

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Lyones, please elbow. If you tried to insult the

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish community more, you couldn't be doing a better job,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, rich.

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<v Speaker 3>O, the firebombing of the childcare center that happened yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>followed the Dover Heights attack.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, without giving.

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<v Speaker 3>Away too many details, it's very close to home for you,

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<v Speaker 3>rich Oh, you know this is in your general neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us how rocked the local community is

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<v Speaker 3>and how you felt having that atrocious arson attack you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it just streets away from you.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I think there's genuine concern. Obviously, there's a pretty

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<v Speaker 14>strong representation of Jews in our area, Dover Heights, I

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<v Speaker 14>think well known for that. I think we've got four

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<v Speaker 14>synagogues in walking distance. So obviously it's an area that

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<v Speaker 14>you have to be careful about because it's going to

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<v Speaker 14>be a target area for these rat bags, for these

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<v Speaker 14>evil people who see no problem in mutilating children, let

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<v Speaker 14>alone what they do to women, which I won't go into.

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<v Speaker 14>I think this is a really, really a very critical

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<v Speaker 14>moment here, a critical moment, and I'm not totally satisfied

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<v Speaker 14>with the response of my own government.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I should hope not, because no sensible person would be.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, a database, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk about that issue of the failed

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<v Speaker 3>National Cabinet a bit later with Caroline Marcus, but that

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<v Speaker 3>it was such a pr stunt and then nothing came

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<v Speaker 3>out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Except for a database.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, didn't even really properly consider the minimum mandatory sentencing,

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<v Speaker 3>which was Dutton's suggestion and which I understand some of

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<v Speaker 3>the other states did support as well. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>have a look at Trump's inauguration. Michael Krog, of course

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<v Speaker 3>you follow US politics very closely. What were your main

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<v Speaker 3>takeouts or perhaps what were your favorite things out of

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's executive orders.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Trump has hit the ground running, as you would

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to have done. He's issued the executive orders

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<v Speaker 1>that he said he'd do. You know, border protection is

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<v Speaker 1>critical for America, and it's not, as that Anglican minister

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<v Speaker 1>said today, you know, him not showing compassion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no country can open its borders to eleven or more

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<v Speaker 1>million undocumented people. I thought yesterday was typical Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He's leading from the front. He wants to make America

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<v Speaker 1>greater as again, as he said, He's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>some serio economic inroads. I'm glad he's getting rid of

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<v Speaker 1>DEI I'm glad he's got a federal hiring freeze. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they're going to have a cut back in

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<v Speaker 1>federal employees. I mean, the American the Americans got a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six trillion dollar US dollars fifty trillion plus Australian

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<v Speaker 1>deficit that's getting worse three or four trillion every year.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's got to do something about government expenditure. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's at least making those tough decisions. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I didn't like, to be quite frank, was

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<v Speaker 1>when he had the families of the hostages on the

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<v Speaker 1>stage yesterday at the Capital Theater. He talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>J six hostages, and I thought the combining of the

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<v Speaker 1>two was graded greatly with me. But apart from that,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing everything he said he'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, at least see how the hostages up there front

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<v Speaker 3>and stage, putting that issue absolutely, you know on the

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<v Speaker 3>chat because you're wearing the host in Michael Kroger as

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<v Speaker 3>I usually do it, and we do need them to

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<v Speaker 3>come home. Rich O, this must have been a tough

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<v Speaker 3>day for you having to watch the inauguration. We know

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<v Speaker 3>you were supportive of Kamala Harris. Do you admit that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know some of Chump's moves yesterday were sensible. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you support getting people back into the office. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>support having two genders.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, Look, I don't believe that Trump that everything

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<v Speaker 14>he says or everything he does is evil. It's clearly not.

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<v Speaker 14>He does some things that are good, that are worthwhile,

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<v Speaker 14>that any one of us would do if we had

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<v Speaker 14>the chance. So good luck to him. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 14>he's doing some of those things. He's just got to

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<v Speaker 14>make sure that he rains himself in because sometimes I

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<v Speaker 14>think of the rhetoric that he can come up with,

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<v Speaker 14>it just gets a little bit out of hand. I

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<v Speaker 14>think he needs to be a little more careful when

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<v Speaker 14>he opens his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>I had Peter Dutton on the show lineat night and

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him about Trump's return to the presidency and

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<v Speaker 3>there's global shift away from progressive politics, and Dutton does

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a movement that's sweeping the globe, even Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 15>I think there is going to be a near revolution

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<v Speaker 15>that comes with the Trump administration in relation to a

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<v Speaker 15>lot of the work issues that might be fashionable in

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<v Speaker 15>universities and at the ABC, but that just starn't cutting

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<v Speaker 15>it around kitchen tables at the moment where people can't

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<v Speaker 15>pay their bills under the urban EZI cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael, what do you think do you think we can

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<v Speaker 3>finally say that woke politics and the age of woke

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<v Speaker 3>is coming to an end, that people are getting sick

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<v Speaker 3>of it, and partly because of the very real cost

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<v Speaker 3>of living pressures as Peter Dighton says, well, we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Reached peak Woke probably six months ago and now the

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<v Speaker 1>world is turning against the sort of this left wing extremism.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't blame the Wake activists. These are left

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<v Speaker 1>wing activists all over the world. They're in corporate affairs

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<v Speaker 1>departments of major corporations, of universities, of arts organizations, at

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, et cetera, et cetera. And they've done a

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<v Speaker 1>very good job but convincing. They're left of the West

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<v Speaker 1>to go extreme left on all his issues. And now

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<v Speaker 1>as people have looked at this more closely and waken up,

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<v Speaker 1>they've decided this extreme and has to come to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully the Business Council Australia and DEI policies of

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<v Speaker 1>Australian corporations will be revoked in due course and people

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<v Speaker 1>will get back to merit based appointments. So yeah, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton's absolutely right. It is sweeping the world. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>sweeping Australia. And if you haven't got the devastating poll

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<v Speaker 1>released in the Fairfax Press tonight, in the Age and

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<v Speaker 1>the Sydney Morning Herald, where Dutton is now preferred Prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister by five percent over Albanisi in the labor vote

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<v Speaker 1>in Victoria is now twenty five percent. Dutton may not

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<v Speaker 1>be on seventy two as I've predicted in recent months.

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<v Speaker 1>He may have been a lot more seats than seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor are at serious risks of losing a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other seats in Victoria than the ones that I've

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<v Speaker 1>probably thought. When you look at Goldstein and Kuyong, those

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<v Speaker 1>seats were propped up by labor voters voting for the Teal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if the labor votes evaporating in Victoria, boy, that puts

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<v Speaker 1>Keyon and Goldstein.

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<v Speaker 4>Really at risk. No, it's an interesting point, Richo. What

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<v Speaker 4>do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know what you think about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this rejection of woke playing into the federal election here,

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<v Speaker 3>but also what Michael just said about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton might be heading for perhaps majority government, not

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<v Speaker 3>just seventy two seats that he could actually win outright.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 14>I think Dutton's doing very well, and I've been saying

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<v Speaker 14>that for some months. I think Labor wrote him off

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<v Speaker 14>as they once did Tony Abbott. Always a very very

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<v Speaker 14>dangerous thing to do, to write our political leaders like this.

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<v Speaker 14>Never never would I do it, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 14>you can get to that position of being a political

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<v Speaker 14>leader if you're a complete dope. It doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 14>It means you've got an active and you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 14>a pretty good brain to be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 14>And so I'm not someone who knocks Dutton over any

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<v Speaker 14>of that stuff. I think Dutton is a formidable opponent

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<v Speaker 14>for labor and at the moment you've got to say

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<v Speaker 14>he'd be favorite of the book is to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Up really, so you also think Peter Duttan's now the favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>So we could be seeing a history being broken here

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<v Speaker 3>in a one term government for the first time in

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<v Speaker 3>a century.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it's possible. I mean, it doesn't happen in Australia

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<v Speaker 14>very often, but it's possible. And I'm certainly not going

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<v Speaker 14>to write off the chance of that. But I think,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, it's just it's going to come down to

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<v Speaker 14>the government getting back to focusing on what matters and

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<v Speaker 14>I don't think they've done much of that lately.

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<v Speaker 3>No, definitely, And look, you also have to wonder about

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<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister's own, you know, desire to stays PM,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when he's got a holiday house Cope Cabana Beach

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for him. All right, rich O and Michael Kroger.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to see you both as always on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. Well, let's continue this discussion about

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<v Speaker 3>who is most likely to be the next prime minister,

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<v Speaker 3>but also when are we going to head to the polls?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the question we're all asking. I'm joined now

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<v Speaker 3>by the Director of Government Relations in Canberra, head of

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<v Speaker 3>Bonde Partners, Phil Hudson, and former long term political journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel great to see you. Look, you wrote a terrific

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<v Speaker 3>piece in the Daily Telegraph talking about the most likely

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<v Speaker 3>dates for the federal election. Can you run us through them?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, thanks Shari. It's great to be if your viewers. Look,

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<v Speaker 16>it's the great guessing game, isn't it that we have

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<v Speaker 16>whenever an election comes round. Except this time we've got

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<v Speaker 16>a bit of a budget twist. But as we get

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<v Speaker 16>closer and closer and there's a deadline on this a

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<v Speaker 16>constitutional deadline, it's really coming down now to two choices.

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<v Speaker 16>I think either we're going to be having an election

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<v Speaker 16>on April twelve, or we're going to have an election

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<v Speaker 16>on one of the first three Saturdays in May. Now,

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<v Speaker 16>of course there are other possibilities, but I think they

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<v Speaker 16>are a lot less likely. The Prime Minister has made

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<v Speaker 16>it clear that parliament's going to come back for two

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<v Speaker 16>weeks in February, and just following on from the discussion

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<v Speaker 16>that you just have, I think that's really going to

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<v Speaker 16>be important for both leaders to use the parliament to

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<v Speaker 16>try and gee up the troops, get their own confidence

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<v Speaker 16>going start to put down some heavy markers. Of course,

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<v Speaker 16>the Prime Minister has got a big speech this Friday,

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<v Speaker 16>which there's a lot of expectation about him using that

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<v Speaker 16>to properly kick off the year, even though they've both

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<v Speaker 16>been out and about and I sort of think, so

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<v Speaker 16>we're in the election, where are those dates? I mean,

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<v Speaker 16>there are a lot of dates that are blocked out

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<v Speaker 16>wa election. There was talk last year about it being moved.

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<v Speaker 16>I don't think it's going to be moved. And Overlatch,

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<v Speaker 16>which is also a long weekend in half the country

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<v Speaker 16>I think has been forgotten by many people. There's a

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<v Speaker 16>Grand Prix in Victoria. These things matter when they're trying

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<v Speaker 16>to work out the good time to go. Easter is

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<v Speaker 16>unusually late, which is what opens April twelve up to

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<v Speaker 16>being a real option. April twelve means there's no budget.

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<v Speaker 16>The may options mean there is a budget. And the

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<v Speaker 16>Treasurer was out and about today making his case about

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<v Speaker 16>how he thinks the government has performed, and he has

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<v Speaker 16>a pretty good line there. He says, they've brought down

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<v Speaker 16>two surplus budgets, improve the state of the budget by

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<v Speaker 16>two hundred billion. Why would they want to have another

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<v Speaker 16>budget and risk it being in deficit and the story

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<v Speaker 16>not being as clear cut now it's not working with voters,

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<v Speaker 16>but a more messy message may not work either.

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<v Speaker 4>For those I want to ask you about this is

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<v Speaker 4>the resources before you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to ask you about this possibility of

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<v Speaker 3>a rate cut, because that had been something at least

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<v Speaker 3>senior labor figures were hoping for, so that labour could say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>the inflation crisis is over where on the way back

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<v Speaker 3>to more affordable way of life? You know, proof that

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<v Speaker 3>they were making in roads. How likely do you think

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<v Speaker 3>a rate cut is?

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<v Speaker 16>Looking it seems to change that what the experts say

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<v Speaker 16>depending on each additional piece of data. The value of

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<v Speaker 16>the dollars taken a fall and then a little bit

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<v Speaker 16>of a bounce back. There's a Reserve Bank Board meeting

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<v Speaker 16>in mid February. Then there's one ride at the start

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<v Speaker 16>of April. Look, it's a big gamble. This is probably

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<v Speaker 16>a very big gamble for the Prime Minister if he

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<v Speaker 16>thinks that he wants to wait for a rate cut.

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<v Speaker 16>That might not happen. There is going to be a

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<v Speaker 16>change in the composition of the Reserve Bank Board for

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<v Speaker 16>that April meeting, whether the new board members are any

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<v Speaker 16>more convinced of the need for a rate cut. Look,

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<v Speaker 16>it's a very hard one to pick that one, and

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<v Speaker 16>I think that's the government would dearly love a rate cut,

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<v Speaker 16>but I don't think they can. I don't think in

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<v Speaker 16>their calculations they're going to put that one in the

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<v Speaker 16>bank column.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So your firm favorite April twelve to head

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<v Speaker 3>to the poles Field Hards in Great Tavy on the

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<v Speaker 3>show now still to come that we know where Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's top priorities are.

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<v Speaker 4>But what about Millennia.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to let you know what the first Lady's

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<v Speaker 3>plans are in the White House that's coming up, plus

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<v Speaker 3>what we know about the grubs terrorizing the Jewish community.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline Marcus would joining me after this quick break, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Police are under immense public pressure to catch the grubs,

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<v Speaker 3>the animals, the bastards, as Chris min said, responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>terrorizing the Jewish community, and they're finally starting to make

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<v Speaker 3>some arrests. And to discuss further, let's bring in Sky

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<v Speaker 3>New Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Caroline, police have had a

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<v Speaker 3>breakthrough in the investigation into the anti Semitic attack at

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<v Speaker 3>the Newtown's Synagogue. I spoke about this earlier in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You were in court today.

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<v Speaker 4>What can you tell us about one of the men

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<v Speaker 4>behind this.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, Adam Edward Mole is the thirty three year old man.

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<v Speaker 17>But police arrested overnight after executing two search warrants at

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<v Speaker 17>addresses in Camperdown, which is also in the Inner West

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<v Speaker 17>like the Newtown's Synagogue. Now two men had been captured

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<v Speaker 17>on CCTV.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, Shari and they were.

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<v Speaker 17>Captured pouring a clear liquid onto the synagogue as well

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<v Speaker 17>as spray painting graffiti, painting graffiti of swastikas around the

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<v Speaker 17>perimeter of the synagogue. It was Adam Mole that police

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<v Speaker 17>picked up and he came before the courts today. He's

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<v Speaker 17>been charged with a number of offenses including attempting to

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<v Speaker 17>set the synagogue alight, as well as a number of

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<v Speaker 17>other different lesser charges. But he didn't make an application

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<v Speaker 17>for bail. We didn't even see him in court. He

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<v Speaker 17>didn't come up from the docks in custody. It was refused.

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<v Speaker 17>His matter will return to court tomorrow, but police say

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<v Speaker 17>they're pretty confident that they are going to make a

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<v Speaker 17>second arrest in this case very soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 17>It's not the only matter that was in the court

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<v Speaker 17>courts in the past couple of days. There was also

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<v Speaker 17>someone who was sentenced over the alighting of a fire

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<v Speaker 17>of a Bond Eye business called Curly Lewis Brewery, and

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<v Speaker 17>that was as you mentioned in your editorial, it happened

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<v Speaker 17>in October last year. Police think it was a case

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<v Speaker 17>of mistaken identity that they really meant to target the

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<v Speaker 17>Kosher Delhi with a very similar name, which happened three

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<v Speaker 17>days later. So that person appeared in court yesterday and

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<v Speaker 17>Sutherland Local Court in South Sydney and he was given

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<v Speaker 17>this pathetic sentence of ten months, only ten months for

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<v Speaker 17>setting a light a business that could have led to injuries,

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<v Speaker 17>deaths significant damage. The fire ended up self extinguishing within

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<v Speaker 17>a minute. It still caused tens of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 17>worth of damage. But even the Premier Christmins said today

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<v Speaker 17>that New South Wales Police will be appealing that sentence

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<v Speaker 17>because the crime carries a maximum of ten years and

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<v Speaker 17>yet this person will be eligible for parole as soon

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<v Speaker 17>as this August for this kind of crime. He's co

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 17>accused also pleaded guilty in court. He's yet to be sentenced,

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<v Speaker 17>but certainly the Premier is pushing for a much tougher

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<v Speaker 17>sentence on this. How about insurrent ten months for that's

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<v Speaker 17>ound offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is why Peter day And says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just about the policing, but it's about the

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<v Speaker 3>judiciary and the sentencing as well. And so Darton's saying, well,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you do need minimum mandatory sentences because and it's an

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>issue that Gillian Siegel raised as well, the antisemitism envoy,

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<v Speaker 3>that in some cases people are just getting off scott

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<v Speaker 3>free and we do need to see serious charges, not

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<v Speaker 3>just because it reflects the serious nature of the crime,

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<v Speaker 3>but as a deterrent as well. Carolyne, just before I

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<v Speaker 3>ask you about some other issues, I want to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to gain I spoke about this in the editorial.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a woman who was charged in relation to

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Willara anti Semitic attacks, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was extraordinary that she actually posted on social media

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<v Speaker 3>that she was looking for a jerry can the day

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<v Speaker 3>before the alleged attack.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you think about that?

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<v Speaker 17>Look, this was incredible. And she not only allegedly posted

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<v Speaker 17>this request, I mean, this very suspicious looking request you'd

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<v Speaker 17>have to say to one Facebook community group. She posted

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<v Speaker 17>it to several the day before the alleged attack. So

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<v Speaker 17>she actually ended up being caught with apparently five jerry cans.

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<v Speaker 17>So it seems perhaps the request was successful. I don't

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 17>know that hasn't come before the court yet, but she

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 17>certainly made that extremely public. Now it's quite a bizarre case.

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<v Speaker 17>She's a mother of five, Tammy Ferugia. She posted this

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 17>request very publicly, and she was arrested and charged and

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<v Speaker 17>is facing court over spray painting a number of vehicles

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<v Speaker 17>and properties with kill Israel. Israel's felt incorrectly as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's fair to say these.

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<v Speaker 17>Aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but yet they

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<v Speaker 17>are very serious crimes. A car was torched in that

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 17>incident in Walara as well last month. And look, she'll

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<v Speaker 17>face the court over that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's have a look at the national cabinet

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>that Albanezi held yesterday afternoon, Peter, but Darton told me

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 3>last night that this was just a box ticking exercise.

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<v Speaker 15>And yet it's taken him fifteen months to get to

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 15>this point. Fourteen months to get to this point, and

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 15>he does it without any fanfare. Or he had a

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 15>press conference with the premier this morning, made no mention

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<v Speaker 15>of it, and holds it this afternoon. I think just

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<v Speaker 15>to tick the.

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<v Speaker 3>Box, Caroline, we've just got about thirty seconds. But he's right,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 3>isn't it. I mean he you know, Albanize could have

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 3>sent out an agenda cord for submissions, had a proper,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 3>serious national cabinet.

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 17>It was like it was an afterthought because it was

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<v Speaker 17>mentioned during a press conference only when he was asked

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 17>specifically about why there had been no national cabinet, and

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 17>the answer he gave that people had been on leave. Look,

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 17>it just didn't make sense, Shari, because ultimately people ended

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 17>up zooming into that call anyway, so that could have

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 17>happened while people were on leave. It didn't make sense.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 17>It's a knee jerk reaction. All that's come out of

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 17>it is this national database. He's rejected the idea of

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 17>mandatory minimum sentences, which actually could be a deterrent for

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 17>these kinds of crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, exactly, one hundred percent, Caroline Marcus, thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for your reporting and for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Now after the break, Millenia Trump is planning an agenda

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 3>of her own.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Will we'll talk.

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 3>About what it'll be, and it looks like Trump Donald

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 3>that is, won't be the only force of nature in

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 3>the White House. Plus, the daughter of a man brutally

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 3>murdered by one of the terrorists Israel has released as

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>part of the hostage deal, will join me live later on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll ask her what she thinks of the price Israel

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<v Speaker 3>is paying. Welcome back, Okay, Well, we've been covering so

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 3>much quite frankly, deeply upsetting news this week that I

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>thought it might be fun to delve into something a

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 3>little bit lighter and happier for a minute. Donald Trump

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 3>has returned to the White House, but his wife, Millenia

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<v Speaker 3>is also forging her own path as first Lady. This

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 3>interview with Fox News was fascinating. It showed her as

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<v Speaker 3>a different type a first lady.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't want to hire too many people on my

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 18>team and spending too much taxpayer money. I want to

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 18>make sure that every position they are talented, they have married,

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 18>they know what they're doing and as well as their

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 18>team player. They don't have own agenda. So they're serving me,

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 18>they're serving my office, and they're serving the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay with me now? Is the deputy editor of news

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<v Speaker 3>dot Com, Liz Burke.

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<v Speaker 4>Liz, great to see you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what can you tell us about what Milania has

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>put forward as her own agenda for her time in

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the White House.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so she said that she's going to revive and

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<v Speaker 10>continue basically what she started when she first moved in.

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 10>So then, likes first ladies before her, she had her

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 10>own office, she had her own team, and her key

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 10>initiative was called the Be Best Campaign, and that was

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 10>a public awareness campaign that was all about advocating against

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 10>youth bullying, particularly cyber bullying. And you know, seeing the

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 10>kind of criticism that she cops day in day out,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 10>we you know, we saw it everywhere yesterday. As much

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 10>as she was celebrated and praised, she was also very

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 10>much criticized. I think she's become quite a good authority

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 10>on that. She did face I think some criticism in

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 10>her first term, saying that she was perhaps not so

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 10>present and perhaps not so successful in that initiative and

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 10>other public initiatives as other first ladies. And she actually

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 10>addressed that in that interview that we just saw an

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 10>excerpt from, saying that she didn't have believes that she

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 10>didn't have a great deal of support. I think that's from,

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 10>you know, the preceding administration before that came before her,

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 10>from the media, and you'd assume she's talking about some

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 10>public figures as well, who you know, were reluctant to

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 10>stand next to the Trumps. I think we've all already

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 10>seen that support turn around quite a bit, you know,

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 10>from the number of celebrities who turned out at the inauguration,

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 10>in some in some cases performing at the at various

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 10>inauguration events. So I think she's very much expecting that

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 10>she's going to be able to make a bigger and

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 10>a bigger impact this time around with that support.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one fascinating thing that you can't imagine politicians

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia doing is that both Millenia and Donald have

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<v Speaker 3>his and her cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 4>What's what's this about?

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<v Speaker 10>Looks it's certainly something that we've never seen from a

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<v Speaker 10>first lady before, so she can say that she's the first,

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 10>she's the first there. Yes, Donald Trump was the first

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<v Speaker 10>to launch his own cryptocurrency yesterday that I think was

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<v Speaker 10>just called donald you could call it donald Coin.

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<v Speaker 4>Milania followed.

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<v Speaker 10>They both, you know, were the shot up wildly in value.

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<v Speaker 10>But these types of coins, they are what's known as

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<v Speaker 10>a meme coin.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not really something that you would seriously invest in.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 10>If you did, you'd be pretty disappointed if you, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>woke up today to see that value had like dropped

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<v Speaker 10>quite significantly, even more disappointed next week.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 10>It's almost like buying an online souvenir for the inauguration

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<v Speaker 10>or you know, a piece of merchandise. There are disclaimers

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<v Speaker 10>on you know, on her website that says this isn't

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<v Speaker 10>you know, a proper financial investmental security.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I saw a journalist asked the president today

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<v Speaker 3>about the crypto currency, he said, I wasn't really involved

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<v Speaker 3>in it. And the journalist said, well, we've actually made

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<v Speaker 3>a few billion dollars today.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I think at one point the market was you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it has been valued at several billions. I just don't

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<v Speaker 10>think that's something they's you know, sustainable. I'm not going

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 10>to pretend to be. I'll leave that to Elon.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, tell me about Milania's fashion statements of the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 4>She had two main looks.

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<v Speaker 3>One was this statement hat that I think we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to show you now, and then she also stunned at

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. Yeah, let's have a look at the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us about this, Liz, and also her ball outfit.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you said a statement, and I think that's absolutely

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<v Speaker 10>spot on. We were, you know, covering the event at

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<v Speaker 10>news dot com dot au. We had someone from our

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 10>lifestyle team especially come in to you know, to comment

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 10>on her fashion. But no one was expecting the hat

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 10>to be, you know, to absolutely steal the show. It

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<v Speaker 10>was designed by a milliner called Eric Javitts, and he's

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 10>a bit of a milliner to the stars. His hats

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 10>have been seen on the heads of you know, Beyonce, Madonna,

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 10>those kind of celebrities. I think what's interesting is that

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 10>she actually seemed to have a fair bit of input

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<v Speaker 10>into that design. So her stylist was liaising very closely

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<v Speaker 10>with the milliner who created the hat, so they had

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 10>a fair bit of input. And I think she knew

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<v Speaker 10>that it would be controversial. She thinks she knew that

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 10>it would make such a statement, and so I think

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<v Speaker 10>I kind of like that. I think she's kind of

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<v Speaker 10>into it. She was anticipating the reaction and she just

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<v Speaker 10>owned the look.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very stylish, But you would have wanted to.

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 3>I would have wanted to lift it the whole time

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<v Speaker 3>event to your husband's inauguration as president.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't see everything that's going on under the hat.

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<v Speaker 4>She couldn't see. She couldn't get via anyone. But you know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think she's not look shit cheek. Right, we're out

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<v Speaker 4>of time, Lisbek, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>A daughter will join me, whose father's killer has now

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<v Speaker 3>been set free under the hostage deal. She has a

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 3>unique take and she'll join me after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you know, as part of the hostage deal,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen hundred Palestinian terrorists and criminals will be released from

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Israeli prisons among their murderers, terrorists, kidnappers. Now, like I've

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 3>said repeatedly, this is a very difficult deal. Israel had

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 3>to do a deal with the devil.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 4>And no one knows this more than Maytel offer.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Her father was killed eleven years ago by her Musk terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of his murderers is set for release as

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.760
<v Speaker 3>part of this first phase of the deal. And Maytel

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 3>joins me live now from Israel. Thank you so much

0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 3>for your time. Look what was your reaction to the

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 3>news that your father's murderer was going to be set free.

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, I was.

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<v Speaker 8>Quite shocked, but not very surprised because in Israel there

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<v Speaker 8>were many deals with terrorists. And after my father's murderer,

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<v Speaker 8>I asked the lawyer when they will released from prison,

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<v Speaker 8>and he told me, you know, they will sit at

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<v Speaker 8>least ten years and after October seventh. I understood that

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 8>this must have been done so all the hostages will

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<v Speaker 8>come back. So I think it's that that is the

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<v Speaker 8>most important thing. All the hostages must come back home.

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<v Speaker 8>And we are paying a very very high price with

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 8>this deal. And I'm not happy that he's setting free,

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<v Speaker 8>but my comfort is that the hostages and their families

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<v Speaker 8>will join back together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's the only good part, the only silver

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 3>lining of what truly is a horrific situation where we

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<v Speaker 3>have having all these harmus terists back on the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>May tell.

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<v Speaker 3>My understanding is that the families of the victims of

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 3>these terrorists are given about forty eight hours where they

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<v Speaker 3>can appeal the decision to Israel's Supreme Court. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>ever consider doing that or are you realistic about it?

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 4>And ultimately yeah, tell me you're thinking on that.

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, me and my siblings, we are five siblings,

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<v Speaker 8>We never thought of turning to the Supreme Court because

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 8>we thought this is the right way to do it.

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 8>And this is also my father's heritage. I think that

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 8>my father, if he was alive, he will also he

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 8>would also support.

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<v Speaker 16>This, this deal.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like you said, it's a deal with the devil,

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<v Speaker 8>and sorry, it's something that it must have been done,

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:36.919
<v Speaker 8>so I don't I have no regrets and I have

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 8>no second thoughts about it. I know it's hard and

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 8>I know and I can also understand the families who

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:53.879
<v Speaker 8>against this this deal, But I think that the most

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 8>important thing to our society, to the Israel of society

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 8>to heal from this wom that we heard from October

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 8>seven is that all the hostages will come back live

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 8>or dead.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course we are expecting hoping that another three

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 3>hostages will be released under this deal Saturday this week,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's hope that goes ahead. MATEL really appreciate your

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<v Speaker 3>time tonight, Thank you very much. That's all we've got

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<v Speaker 3>time for today. I'll be back on Monday. I'm working

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<v Speaker 3>on a special project tomorrow night, so tune in eight

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock Monday, but stay tuned right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Pom Mary's up