WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 25 November 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.880 From the Skying Center. 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:07.000 This is Paul Murray Live Cat. I nice to be 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:08.479 back in the man Cave. Thank you to everyone in 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.720 Capin Sawis in Bendigo. That is a spectacular part of Australia. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.360 We've been doing this for a few years now and 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.079 I hope that the message gets through. See Australia. Literally, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.360 go to the drive in at Charters Towers, go to 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.000 the fish and chip shop at Torquaie. I could name 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.400 them all, and probably we should put together a list, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.840 but certainly bend to go right up there. The experience 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.720 of the trams and so much more. What a beautiful 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.720 part of Australia. Thank you to everyone for turning up. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.160 We'll be doing it outdown again next year, so looking 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.840 forward to all of that. Now we're in the twenty 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.680 first century, and remember what the hope of the twenty 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.640 first century was. Now, okay, we haven't quite got the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.720 flying cars yet, but think about it. It's literally almost 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.320 twenty five years twenty four years to be exact, since 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.960 the Sydney Olympics. Those of us that were lucky enough 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.760 to be alive at the time, remember what that felt like. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.680 Forget all the white to stuff, this was this giant 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.240 leap forward into the beginning of modernity. For those that 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.840 were old enough to remember TV show on Channel seven 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.280 for years called Beyond two thousand. This was all about 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.440 the future and the future technologies and the robots that 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.880 we're going to take care of us. Well, there we 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.040 are a quarter of the way into the magic of 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.399 the twenty first century. And yes, while there is a 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.399 device that means you can video call someone on the 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.680 other side of the world, and there's probably a technology 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.160 that is incredible, there is some ridiculous stuff as well. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.319 Tomorrow in and around Sydney parts of New South Wales, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.240 it's going to be hot the day after bloody hot, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.000 pushing the best part of forty now. Of course, this 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.560 will not be the first day between now and the 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.200 end of summer, and it won't just be Sydney. This 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.240 will be something that's going to happen all over the country, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.520 you know, summer and people have the right in twenty 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.360 first century Australia to use the technology that has been 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.320 invented a long time before the twenty first century to 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.559 cool themselves down at the height of a hot day 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.360 or to heat themselves up in the middle of a 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.400 cold night. But amazingly, a quarter of the way into 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.960 the twenty first century, people are being warned not to 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.720 use this technology because it might put too much strain 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:26.399 on the electricity grid and there might end up being blackouts. Now, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.960 we've received these warnings multiple times before, and I don't 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.720 know whether the people that are behind the warnings try 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.160 to put them out in order that nothing happens. So 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.600 they turn around and say, look, everything's fine. The system's 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.000 more robust than ever before. But just like every other 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.359 warning that we get about a catastrophic bushfire day that's 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.040 on its way, or any other warning that comes, we've 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.160 got to take it seriously. And the people managing our 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.200 power grids you've just seen have said that there is 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.239 a chance that this stuff is going to not work. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.120 In the next couple of days. There's millions of people 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.760 turn to a technology that existed before the twenty first 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:04.160 century to cool down their homes, let alone fans, let 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.440 alone the pool filters that people will go for a swimming. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.160 The story today was that a EMO remains focused on 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.680 maintaining electricity reliability in both New South Wales and Queensland 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.200 next week, as high temperatures are expected to drive strong 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.560 energy demand and make significant generation unavailability In New South Wales. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.800 The Energy Ministry in New South Wales was carrying on 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.679 today saying things like, well, do you really need every 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.200 light on? Do you need to have that fan on 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.480 all day? Do you really need the air condition of 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:45.120 belting away at nineteen degrees when it's forty degrees outside? 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.200 What can I say on the behalf of the people 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.680 who have paid through the nose for power prices for 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.360 the past three years, but for a lot longer than that. Yes, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.600 we have every right to use every appliance in our 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.720 house whenever we want to. Now, of course, if you 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.480 overuse these appliances, well then the bill is the reason 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.280 why you don't do it. But remember in that Chris 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.360 Human documentary from just a few days ago, there are 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.119 people who are trying to turn off every line and 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.279 not use the air conditioner, and not turn on the 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.240 heater and not turn on the fan, who are being 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.880 billed within less than one hundred dollars of all of 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.960 the money that they have to have access to the 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.760 energy grit. And while much of our conversation and politics 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.560 and the three card Monte trick and the shell game 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.960 of the cost of transition. The reality is that many 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.680 of us are facing huge bills that are not directly 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.400 linked to our actual usage of electricity. This in and 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.120 of itself is the fundamental frustration that Australians have right 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.960 now when it comes to power prices. Now, of course, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.560 the reason why we are where we are is because 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.200 the coal fire power plans, which have served us so 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.680 well for yes, much of the twentieth and still a 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.480 quarter of the way into the twenty first century, well, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.480 they've slowly been run down. They've been run down by 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.920 the governments them own them, or the governments that sold 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.560 them off to private companies who have run them down. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.520 Because you see, while it is the primary source of 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.480 energy for the country, when you're the only one producing it, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:31.280 guess what happens It costs more. So, slowly but surely, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:36.520 scarcity has been introduced into the market, meaning that whatever 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.520 technology is on at the time is the one that 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.360 can charge through the roof. We've also had a scenario 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.880 where in the past three years, despite the fact that 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.520 Australia is just one percent of global emissions problems, the 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.880 Left has been able to convince more than half of 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.880 all of Australians back in twenty twenty two that part 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.200 of our drastic need to deal with climate change was 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.400 to change from an energy greed that has served saved 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.760 us for a long period of time and replace it 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:07.320 with one that might into the future. And of course, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.560 at the same time as we're trying to replace like 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.120 for like ish, there are more people in the country 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.560 than ever before, and there are more things than ever 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:24.599 before which need electrification, everything from cars to stoves and 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.880 a whole collection of things that even ten years ago 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:33.040 people were not using. When it comes to electricity, the result, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.120 of course, has been that the system that has been 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.880 put in place to try to replace the one that 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.840 had worked has not come on fast enough. There is 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.680 not enough solo there are not enough wind farms, and 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.839 there are not enough batteries to be able to replace 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.480 what was being slowly shut down or blown up by 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.120 governments who put simply by doing so, have said, oh, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.400 this is only one option, and this is the option 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.440 you're all going to have to take, and you're all 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.400 going to have to pay through the nose. And the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.640 exchange is that a quarter of the way through the 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.159 twenty first century, when it's a hot day in the 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.000 lead up to summer in twenty first century Australia, Please 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.360 don't turn your reconditioner on. In exchange for every other 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.440 day where you don't need your reconditioner, we will charge 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.400 you like wounded bulls, as if you had been leaving 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.320 your conditioner on for twenty four to seven, for three 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:29.040 hundred and sixty five days. No surprise. People have had enough. Now. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.000 We understand that you don't use the technology of the 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.400 nineteen fifties for the solutions of the two thousand and fifties. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.200 But the idea that Australia is going to change the 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.800 planet because of where we get our energy from is 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.720 just not true. And before someone runs off to the 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.600 umpire and says kind of denialism in stinis primet, I've 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:55.480 noted that just the facts, China thirty three times the 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.960 polluter that we are in this country, one that is 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.240 planning to pollute plant more between now and twenty thirty 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:07.120 let alone fifty, let alone sixty. But because Australia is 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.280 part of those countries that have been made to feel 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.960 guilty about the modernity that they embraced a long time before, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.880 the Chinese countries like Australia, who are one percent of 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.800 the problem. Are being told that they have to up 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.800 the numbers that have produced this ridiculous system that are 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.280 quarter the way into the twenty first century. You are 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.720 being warned by your government to double check that all 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.200 the lights are turned off because God forbid, there may 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.959 not be enough power because of the choices that have 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:40.040 been made by state and federal governments. Bugger them. Use 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.760 whatever appliance you want to be as comfortable as possible, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.720 because that absolute truth is just like on the coldest 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.080 of cold days, when somebody doesn't turn on a heater, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.240 they might get sick. The same could be the case 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.959 when it comes to air conditioning. It is your right, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.960 it is your availability. It is the modern comforts of 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.560 the twenty first century that you can do it. But 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.840 all of these targets which have seen us make a 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.840 whole collection of decisions. So the front end of the 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.080 plane or the private jet club can go around the 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.400 world to point about how we're so much better than 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.240 the rest of the world, even though wear one percent 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.000 of the world's climate problems. Get ready for an increase 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.840 in even the forty three percent reduction that was put 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.960 in place after the last election, because you see all 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.960 of those countries that get together at those international climate conferences, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.800 the ones that are so important that apparently Australia should 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.520 bid to host one in Adelaide, But they're so unimportant 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.040 that the Prime Minister has not gone to two of 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.920 the last three, instead sending along that idiot Chris Bowen 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.240 to sign us up to, among other things, compensating countries 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.040 like China for continuing to pollute the atmosphere way worse 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.959 than Australia has ever done. But you see there's a 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.240 little trick that's coming. They know in twenty nineteen that 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.520 a forty five percent reduction target was in part what 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.440 did in Bill Shorten. They knew that they were able 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.480 to squeak over the line forty three percent reduction target 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.520 by twenty thirty because the promise was that your power 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.680 bills would go down by two hundred and seventy five dollars. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.559 But that's not true, that was never true, but that 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.880 was their promise. And now the chances are that it's 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.280 going to be a lot higher. And if we go 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.640 into a minority government. The Teals won seventy five percent, 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:35.439 the Greens won higher than seventy five percent, So that's 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.480 why When the Prime Minister is asked this question today, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.200 you should pay deep attention to his answer because under 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.680 their current plan, which is law law, if it's hot, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.400 they're telling you you can't use your air conditioner because 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.199 the entire grid might collapse. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.240 Labor has refused to announce when it will release it's 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.920 twenty thirty five emissions reduction target at COP twenty nine, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.440 Minister Bowen said next year, when we bring forward our 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.520 nationally determined contributions, we must all strength and efforts and 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.720 deliver our highest possible ambition. Why is the Albanese Labor 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.240 government keeping its target a secret? And can the Prime 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.400 Minister guarantee that it won't lead to increased energy prices 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:20.800 for Australian families? 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.400 Perfect question, right, the Prime Minister, though, turning around and 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.200 saying why he will not announce what the next version 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.160 of this stuff is with all of the same consequences 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.480 that have been here for the past three years, knowing 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.960 that it would become electorally unpalatable to people, hoping that 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.040 what really will be the case is that, just like 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.120 Julia Gillard before the election, you say there will be 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.439 no climate tax and no climate carbin. There we go 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.040 tax under the government I lead only to deliver one 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.120 because we're in a minority government. The Greens tell us 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.679 we have to do so or I wouldn't be in 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.920 government anymore. That's their hope coming out of the next 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.000 election is that the Teals and the Greens will push 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.079 them way further than the Australia in public is willing 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.640 to accept. Otherwise, the entire Parliament would be full of 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.320 Teals and Greens. But because they're ten or less than 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.360 ten percent in the Australian population, the far left tail 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.080 will wag Elbow's dog, and he's come up with a 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.280 spectacular way of pretending that he doesn't have to tell 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:19.640 you what the number is going to be for the 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.880 next three years. Here he was in response to the 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.040 question in Parliament today. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.680 One of the provisions that was carried with amendments was 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.400 that the Climate Change Authority had to give us advice 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.439 about future targets. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.680 That is the law. That is the law. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.480 The Climate Change Authority gives us the advice based upon 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:47.800 the science science, and then we announced the target based 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.880 upon the science consistent with getting to net zero by 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:53.720 twenty fifty. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.680 That's the process. But who's the person in charge of 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:03.760 the Climate Authority. Oh, that's right, it's this guy, the 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.600 guy who of course was formerly part of the New 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.800 South Wales government. Now standing side by side with the 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.160 Prime Minister, he will be the one who the Prime 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.560 Minister will say, well, we have to do what he 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.600 says because he's decided what the target is. And what 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.839 happened when that blog was in charge of the New 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.760 South Wales energy system, the very same system that people 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.920 tomorrow are being told not to turn on their air conditioner. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:32.000 What was his stewardship of that system? Well, funnily enough, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.200 we have the tape and here's the pressing of play. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.040 So what we want to say is if there is 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.800 an opportunity for people to reduce their energy usage, so 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.480 perhaps not using the dishwasher until you go to bed 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:45.440 that would help. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.199 This is garbage. This is garbage. For as long as 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.280 there has been a power bill, Australians have been doing 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.160 their best to try to conserve the amount of energy 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.160 that they use. We all know the joke about the 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.439 dad walking around saying, oh, bloody hell, do I live 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.480 in some sort of a factory? Year off the light 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.080 turn off, the light turn off, the loa dow do 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.120 we really we get that we've all lived with it, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.920 we all slowly become that person as the year's roll 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.319 on and we're the one's paying the bills. But when 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.840 the people who are turning off all the lights, not 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.080 using the air conditioner, using as little power as they 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.440 possibly can, remember the blow that we showed you from 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.400 a current affair who walked outside his house every day 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.360 and turned it off at the switchboard to try to 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.440 save money. Yet his power bill stick keeps going up 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:33.560 for a system that doesn't work anymore. Then, surprise, surprise, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.400 Australians will wake up. They will stick their middle finger 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.160 and they will say, I get it. We're part of 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.760 a globe, and we'd all love the globe to go 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.040 on forever, and we love a better environment. But bugger 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.560 you that I have to sit there on the coldest 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.600 day or the hottest day, sweating or shivering so you 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.320 can feel better when you go to an international conference. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.760 Bugger you use whatever you want because you're paying for 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.440 it anyway. As for the prime, not another good day 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.880 for him. He's running out of them before the next election. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.000 Now I stand by my predictions that look, you got 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.440 to see what happens with the Taels. This bloke obviously 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.080 deserves to go, but we'll all see what happens. Believe me, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.440 even when the crickets on. Keep watching the show until 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.440 we're done at the end of the year. Series link 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.120 it from the start of the year, because I've got 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.000 a feeling the second we we're all back to work 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.360 in January, maybe even before we're going to be off 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.640 to on an election. So it doesn't matter what sports on. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.680 Make sure you are watching this show. Okay, if you've 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.720 got the Foxtel box series link. If you watch us 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.040 on Flash, favorite the show. If you're watching us on YouTube, 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.520 subscribe to the channel because there's going to be a 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.880 lot happening while the government hopes that you are not 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.960 paying attention. And I don't want this summer to be 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.240 like last summer where people are being kept in the 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.760 dark metaphorically yet still being fed the diet of a mushroom. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.440 This government has decided that they are going to try 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.600 to land seventy six planes in one week in Federal Parliament, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.240 seventy six pieces of legislation that it will, of course 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.920 make life tougher, more expensive, more regulation or create new 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:15.080 systems where the government isn't responsible for anything. We certainly 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.320 know that one of those that hit the deck hard 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.040 was the want to censor the Internet, something that of 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.880 course was formally withdrawn from the Senate today. Our guest 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.440 Matt Canavan, one of those who was cockerhoop and happy 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.760 that they failed on one of the seventy six, just. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.560 Wanted to take the opportunity to celebrate the great victory 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.280 for free speech that has been struck this morning. This 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.440 bill was the most anti democratic piece of legislation ever 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.440 come before this Parliament and I want to say thank 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.960 you to those thousands of Australians that gave up their 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.800 free time to fight for the basic rights of all Australians, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.280 including future Australians. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.720 As for the Labor Party, now they didn't remove this 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.440 because they saw the error of their ways. They are 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.760 still sooking. There are still people that are sitting around 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.600 that Cabinet table who hope that should they be returned 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.480 at the next election, that this garbage comes back. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.600 It's very disappointing that again we see that teaming up 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.639 between Peter Dutton and the Greens to block legislation that 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.720 Labor is attempting to pass, and that the community support. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.040 I think about eighty percent of the Australian community would 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.920 agree that misinformation and disinformation online and on social media 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.680 is a really serious issue that the Parliament should come 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:33.240 together on. 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.160 I want you to remember this going into the next 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.600 election when it comes to what you do with your 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.440 number one vote and what you do with your preferences, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.840 because by what they had to vote, say, they had 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.840 to vote and not some legal document you have to follow. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.119 You're in charge of your preferences. You decide what happens 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.919 with them. And I want you to remember that it 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.120 was the Labor Party who tried to censor the Internet, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.359 and I want you to remember every one of these 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.720 politicians who stood up when it was in the Lower 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.880 House and agreed with the idea of censoring the Internet. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.280 Roll that one. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.560 The Internet enabled instant communication, but in doing so has 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.800 exposed us to unforeseen social risk, eroded public trust in 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:18.119 traditional democratic institutions, and left us questioning the nature of 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.160 truth itself. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.240 And a big part of the reason that we've seen 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:27.280 an erosion in trust in our institutions has been because 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:32.159 the spread of miths and disinformation has been allowed to 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.400 flourish in this country. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.400 But They can also be used in ways that pose 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.760 a threat to democratic processes through disinformation campaigns that undermine 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:46.399 trust in public institutions and exacerbate divisions within society. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.000 All the sales, all the Greens. Remember, these are the 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.760 people that want to be the tail that wags the 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.800 prime ministerial dog after the election. The people who want 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.800 to put forward massive changes to our power grid, but 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.600 wouldn't dare have a single solar panel disrupt one of 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.720 the doggy parks in their electorates. These are the people 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.680 who want to ban you from being able to see 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.879 something that is not officially signed off by the government 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.040 as the truth of the day. What could possibly go 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.920 wrong with all of this? The Prime Minister, of course, 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.720 has changed the subject. He thinks that the big winner 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:26.240 is not the plan to censor the Internet for adults, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.879 but instead to ban certain parts of the Internet for 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.200 people under the age of sixteen. Prime Minister patting himself 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.240 on the back as they start to move quickly through 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.920 the Parliament this week to ban kids' access to certain 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.360 social media platforms. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.320 I've seen people point out that nowhere else in the 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.760 world has this been done yet, and that's true, But 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.280 I also know that every serious government in the world 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.800 is grappling with this issue and looking to take action. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.600 And when it comes to the well being of our 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.040 young people, I don't want to way around on the 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.920 rest of the world. Oh in Australia to be one 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.840 of the leading nations in the world a. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.159 Bit of a step down, isn't it. This is the 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.360 bloke who wanted to change the constitution twelve months ago 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.600 and that would be his signature legacy. Instead it's about 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.600 what apps people will be allowed to use in the country. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.680 More to talk about with Matt Canavan at a moment 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.760 or two is time. But while he's patting himself on 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.199 the back about how incredible this peaceful legislation is and 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.320 how it's going to save a whole bunch of kids, 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.000 he wanted to leave a little asterisk one that means 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.199 when inevitably people break this law, when inevitably people misuse 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.440 social media, and when inevitably the bullying that has taken 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.600 too many lives will continue to take lives. He's got 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.560 a little bit of wiggle room. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.720 I've seen people say the law won't fix everything, and 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.440 it won't work in every situation. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:53.600 That's correct. 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:58.600 You can't have perfect law in an area like this 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.040 relating to technology that will work one hundred percent perfectly, 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.320 one hundred percent of the time. 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.920 Oh no, hang on, han't do we have a song 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.720 for that? We find the guy who's got no responsibility 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.479 despite having the ultimate responsibility. Get ready for the top dance. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:35.679 Go go go, go, go go go, am My fault. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.199 That's the way he plays. That's the song ringing in 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.080 his head each and every day. There was a one 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:46.160 day investigation into this today in the Senate. Important legislation 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.200 that we desperately need, and every single other government is 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.840 looking at us. But the total amount of scrutiny one day, 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.440 one day. People were told on Thursday that they had 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.760 till Friday to fill out the forms to turn up 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.360 and they had one day to give their evidence today. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.240 And guests who blew a giant hole in one of 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.359