Speaker 1: I said, Sam, before you showed me, I need to
Speaker 1: tell you I'm going to ask Sarah to marry me.
Speaker 1: And he was in the middle of kind of showing
Speaker 1: me his stuff and he just went, you're okay, have
Speaker 1: baby while you're there.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the titles, we're talking about these deaths.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Sam, you heard what I said.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, yeah, yeah, oh good or good and
Speaker 1: that was a hell an Arab title.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to separate bathrooms.
Speaker 4: We would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the
Speaker 4: Eura nation, the traditional custodians of this land, and pay
Speaker 4: our respects to the elders, both passed and present.
Speaker 3: I'm Cam Daddo.
Speaker 5: I'm his wife Ali.
Speaker 4: Yes, and we were late to a phenomenon. The hit
Speaker 4: TV series began March seven. That's a fine date, fine date,
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen. Yes, I was. Well, let's not say how
Speaker 4: old I turned on that day because I can't do
Speaker 4: the math right.
Speaker 5: You were in your forties, I was, yes, in my forties.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the show started in the UK.
Speaker 4: Australia waited a couple of seasons. We got it in
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. Goggle Box goggle Box. Goggle Box one of
Speaker 4: our favorite shows.
Speaker 6: It has become one of our favorite shows, and of
Speaker 6: course we'll talk about it with the couple were bringing in.
Speaker 5: But man, it's a funny show.
Speaker 4: I remember hearing about goggle Box while we were living
Speaker 4: overseas and just thinking, this is the dumbest idea.
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 4: Who's going to care about watching people watching TV when
Speaker 4: you I didn't really know what the show was. I
Speaker 4: was being very highly judgmental.
Speaker 5: They choose the people well though, don't say.
Speaker 3: The casting of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who's watching?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got the family of four, You've got a
Speaker 6: couple of fellas old.
Speaker 5: You know that, there's one guy who's a teacher.
Speaker 3: The Surfy dudes. You've got.
Speaker 5: You've got the Indigenous Indigenous.
Speaker 4: Crew, the Indian family, Yes in family, different cultures, the
Speaker 4: Whye Dozzi family didn't go.
Speaker 6: Of course, You've got the Leavanese fellas with the humping dog, Maddie.
Speaker 4: And Sarah Fad they're coming in. I can't wait to
Speaker 4: see these two.
Speaker 6: Now. Sarah is not on the show currently. She's of
Speaker 6: course taken time off to raise her two boys. She's
Speaker 6: got Malik and Leon Leon. Yeah, beautiful names. Look let's
Speaker 6: just get them into the bathroom. We're ready for a chat.
Speaker 6: Please welcome Maddie and Sarah into the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Welcome Maddie and Sarah to the bathroom. We're really excited
Speaker 3: to have you both, really excited. We're big fans.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 2: We're very excited to be here.
Speaker 4: And we're missing you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I know I've been off screen. I'm
Speaker 2: usually just walking past them, getting in their way.
Speaker 5: Now get you delivering food.
Speaker 2: Normally I'm looking after a baby now at the background.
Speaker 2: I'm usually like, there's a baby crying. Then I need
Speaker 2: to get a bottle. So I'm like back and forth
Speaker 2: and fourth enough to sit down?
Speaker 3: Would you go back?
Speaker 5: Look?
Speaker 2: Could be on. It's so great. It just hasn't quite
Speaker 2: worked out. Yes, one kid was fine, but doing two
Speaker 2: on top of everything else, I just can't right now.
Speaker 1: When Sarah and I started the show, we were living
Speaker 1: in an apartment that were renting. We were dating. We've
Speaker 1: been dating for about eighteen months. Since being on the show,
Speaker 1: We've bought a house, gotten engaged, gotten a dog, gotten married,
Speaker 1: had two kids. Yeah, life has changed rapidly.
Speaker 2: Got another started renovating.
Speaker 1: Renovated house. We're living in a rental again now while
Speaker 1: our house is being ready. All the life things have
Speaker 1: happened while we've been on the show for the last
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons. So it's been fourteen seasons, yes, because.
Speaker 6: We've only caught up since we moved back from America.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you guys were already on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the show's been going for twenty seasons and we've
Speaker 1: done fourteen of them. Were members, No, we joined I
Speaker 1: think it was season six. Yeah, I always get my
Speaker 1: numbers wrong. I'm pretty sure we joined season six.
Speaker 2: What's seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 1: Having never watched the show, mind you or know what
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, you didn't know what I didn't really
Speaker 1: know what it was.
Speaker 5: You when you read the brief.
Speaker 6: I remember when we first moved here from back from
Speaker 6: America and it was like we saw that Adams, Like
Speaker 6: that is the most stupid pros.
Speaker 2: I wish I was a fly on the wall when
Speaker 2: they did that. Read in the in the room, like
Speaker 2: I've got a great idea for sure, picture of this. Yeah, families,
Speaker 2: a mix of families sitting down just shitting on TV.
Speaker 3: Sitting on the TV.
Speaker 2: They're gonna laugh, they're gonna cry, they're gonna bag it out,
Speaker 2: Like can you imagine They'll be like, what do you
Speaker 2: mean you're watching people watch TV.
Speaker 1: It took a brave executive somewhere who said, that's an
Speaker 1: amazing idea.
Speaker 4: Let's go and look.
Speaker 1: It's been one of the most successful television shows in Australia.
Speaker 6: It's one of our shows that we don't get a
Speaker 6: lot of shows that we still get to watch without
Speaker 6: eighteen year old that last year at home and she's like,
Speaker 6: it's goggle Box, Mama.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go on the TV.
Speaker 2: For even a picture being in that situation an emotion.
Speaker 2: I haven't been really emotional this week. I watched I
Speaker 2: read The Giving Tree.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about that book the other day.
Speaker 3: I know it's one of the saddest books.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I picture it like the trees a mum,
Speaker 2: whereas Malick's just like, ah, that's really mean to the tree.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'm probably looking into
Speaker 2: this a little bit more. But even you're saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I just sitting down it's like one of the last
Speaker 2: shows you watch with your eighteen year old, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not ready we get.
Speaker 1: That feedback a lot that it's kind of one of
Speaker 1: the only shows that families and everyone's as interested as
Speaker 1: one another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so everyone's represented. That's the thing.
Speaker 4: You've got young people, older people, middle of the range, ethnicities.
Speaker 2: Culture, cultural differences between. For us, when we came on
Speaker 2: the show, that's one thing we heard about from a
Speaker 2: lot of like the Arab community was Oh, it's so
Speaker 2: nice to see a representation of.
Speaker 5: Us how we really are.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, like you know, because you know, it's funny to
Speaker 2: have the stereotype and you know, like the fully sig,
Speaker 2: the heaviva. You know, it's funny even for us. It's
Speaker 2: a stereotype that's actually it is actually there and it's funny.
Speaker 2: But like that's not all we're about. You know. Lebanese
Speaker 2: people are known for being really educated and really like
Speaker 2: warm and like really loving and kind, and we feed
Speaker 2: the whole street and like there's so much they don't see.
Speaker 2: It's like nice to be that representation.
Speaker 3: Isn't it feel like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't grow up with anyone looking like be
Speaker 2: on TV's like no one Jasmine from Aladdin with unrealistic hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite opening for us, you know, as
Speaker 1: born Australians getting messages early on when we first started
Speaker 1: from from families saying that were somewhat it could have
Speaker 1: been quite insulting sort of messages, but they meant it
Speaker 1: in a nice way. But it was kind of changing
Speaker 1: perceptions of what they thought of an Aussi Arab household.
Speaker 2: Where the intent is right.
Speaker 1: What what did what did you think happened at our house?
Speaker 1: You know, what did you think we were like? And
Speaker 1: you know, just really changing that perception of what the
Speaker 1: Lebanese Australian was. And I think prior to that again,
Speaker 1: like Sarah said, like we love ethnic humor. It's it's funny,
Speaker 1: but it was like doggies and all the you know,
Speaker 1: footy show stereotypes and all those sorts of things, which
Speaker 1: is yeah, very much not like that.
Speaker 4: You know you do have a great doggie do Yeah? Bulldogs?
Speaker 2: That's the irony.
Speaker 1: House.
Speaker 2: But we have a bulldog.
Speaker 1: So thank God for our beautiful children. But they're restored
Speaker 1: respect to our name after that dog because that is
Speaker 1: an absolute abomination.
Speaker 2: Family.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're just so glad that those bits get left
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 1: When he gets excited, Bain is best described as your
Speaker 1: mate that comes over and then sleeps on the couch
Speaker 1: and never leaves and then drinks the milk straight from
Speaker 1: the cart and then tries to sleep with one of
Speaker 1: your relatives. And yeah, that's that's Bain's an absolute menace
Speaker 1: and you try.
Speaker 2: And tell them what they've didn't done wrong. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. Like that's Bain.
Speaker 6: I love it because when you when you both get
Speaker 6: so excited about about something that Lebanese that comes on,
Speaker 6: like usually it's usually Lebanese food.
Speaker 2: Genuine and we're excited.
Speaker 5: At home, and then the dog comes into.
Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't make it that you see, like when
Speaker 2: we get so excited over stuff. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: that doesn't, like, you know, make it because it's going
Speaker 2: on for so long. We genuinely get so excited to
Speaker 2: see something Lebanese on TV, and then yeah, Baine just
Speaker 2: goes for it. And then sometimes I'm like, all right, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we gotta you're gonna calmb it down. Like you're gonna
Speaker 2: calm it down.
Speaker 4: The dog is not stopping to get the bucket of water. Now.
Speaker 1: Now, as soon as we see a cooking show of
Speaker 1: any sort, we often will grab bait and put him
Speaker 1: in another room because someone will get hurt. He's just
Speaker 1: such a wrecking ball that he will be losing our
Speaker 1: mind and out of nowhere. He's either come and you know,
Speaker 1: head butted me, or he's started to hump jad and
Speaker 1: he's just you know, he does damage. I've actually still
Speaker 1: got like from maybe six months ago, he jumped up
Speaker 1: while we'll filming, clawed me with his claw. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've still got a white line down my leg
Speaker 1: from where he's scratched with so he doesn't muck around.
Speaker 1: He's a good twenty six kilo worth of dogs.
Speaker 2: He's he's a chucks. I have to like freshly clip
Speaker 2: his nails and keep him a bas and be like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to like kind of prep him up so.
Speaker 4: He's not smell a vision so you can't smell him,
Speaker 4: so you probably just clip his.
Speaker 3: Leaving white lines. Beaver on your legs.
Speaker 5: Man, We've got it.
Speaker 6: We've got to slight connection with you, Maddie, because our
Speaker 6: eldest daughter did a fine arts degree at a university
Speaker 6: here and her favorite teaching with your sister favorite, and
Speaker 6: she would talk about about the both of you and
Speaker 6: when you were pregnant with Malik, and she just my daughter, loved,
Speaker 6: loves your sister.
Speaker 1: My elder sister, Serene. She's yeah, she's an artist by
Speaker 1: trader now and now an academic in the arts. But
Speaker 1: she paved the way for the rest of us kids.
Speaker 1: I'm one of four. I'm the youngest of four. And
Speaker 1: she was the oldest daughter of a Lebanese family who
Speaker 1: had her when my parents were twenty two. When they
Speaker 1: had her, and she did all the things the eldest
Speaker 1: child of a Lebanese family should never do. They wanted
Speaker 1: her to become a lawyer. She became an artist. She
Speaker 1: got tattooed all over, she shaved her head, she you know,
Speaker 1: did drugs, She moved out of home when she was eighteen.
Speaker 1: She did all the you know then or all our
Speaker 1: siblings comparative to her have been angels. But she's she's incredible.
Speaker 2: She's like your second mom.
Speaker 1: I feel she yeah, well, she's fourteen years older than me.
Speaker 1: Both her and my other sister who's twelve years older
Speaker 1: than me, they raised me just as much as my mum.
Speaker 1: You know. I spent my holidays in pots Point in
Speaker 1: King's Cross on school holidays because that's where my parents
Speaker 1: that's where my sisters lived, so they opened my mind
Speaker 1: to a lot of things. I feel like I've got
Speaker 1: such a for a young Arab KEI growing up in Australia.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was a lot more progressive to
Speaker 1: my mates because of the upbringing I had growing up
Speaker 1: around like different types of people that my sister's hung
Speaker 1: out with. So, yeah, my sister's also her art's incredible,
Speaker 1: and yeah, her house is actually filled with her stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She was in the delivery room for both the delivery Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's seen all of me, mate, so with the first
Speaker 2: and you know, Malik is part of you know, one
Speaker 2: of her exhibits in the Arts museum, you know, more parts.
Speaker 1: Of the photos very the photo of him being born
Speaker 1: was featured at the Museum of New South Wales Gallery.
Speaker 5: Of the Paint Photograph.
Speaker 2: So she was there for both.
Speaker 1: You're not squeamish, I'm not say yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 2: But I had two cesareans and she was there for
Speaker 2: both of them. Almost didn't make the second one because
Speaker 2: I went into labor unexpectedly, but she was there for
Speaker 2: both of them, took photos for both. It was just
Speaker 2: she's she's the best person to have around and I
Speaker 2: get along with my sister and law was like amazingly
Speaker 2: and so it's just really nice because she's just someone
Speaker 2: who like laughs in the room, nothing's ever serious, and it's.
Speaker 5: Just so cool. She's a great photographer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she really needed one.
Speaker 2: She loves what she does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that we're connected, yeah, lotus flowers tattooed on us.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my other sister was a graphic designer by trade.
Speaker 1: She's now a naturopath. She had a career change in
Speaker 1: her kind of later years. She designed our wedding invite
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously lotuses grow through anything, and so
Speaker 1: it was the invite was quite simple. It was just
Speaker 1: a piece of people with a lotus on.
Speaker 2: It was hand drawn by her, so.
Speaker 1: She hand drew it. So post our wedding we weren't
Speaker 1: both got it tattooed on our honeymoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've got a call last.
Speaker 1: Minute in Amsterdam.
Speaker 2: In Amsterdam were elaborate last minute and we looked at
Speaker 2: each other like are we doing this now? And he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 4: How did you guys meet? Were you running in the
Speaker 4: same circles?
Speaker 3: Is it in the community, you know.
Speaker 2: What separate circles. So I'm the eldest daughter in Elevenese
Speaker 2: like Elebanese Fillow family, so it was I wasn't like
Speaker 2: really going to nightclubs and stuff. So it was really
Speaker 2: like later we had bumped into each other like outside
Speaker 2: by chance, and Maddie was it was King's Cross.
Speaker 1: Were in King's Cross when I first met her, completely
Speaker 1: different circles. We didn't grow up in the same area.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Saint George or she grew
Speaker 1: out west in Fairfield area, and we just happened to
Speaker 1: run into each other at a nightclub. We had a
Speaker 1: brief conversation. We're both smokers at the time, in our
Speaker 1: mid twenties. Haven't touched a cigarette since then. Really bad,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do any of it. So boring,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so I think we're both outside having a cigarette.
Speaker 1: We had a brief conversation. And then this was before
Speaker 1: I think Instagram. That was so we had Facebook, and
Speaker 1: by a chance, maybe four weeks later, she popped up
Speaker 1: on my Facebook feed. I had known someone else tagged
Speaker 1: in a photo. She popped up and I was like,
Speaker 1: that was that girl that I met, And so I
Speaker 1: did the right thing and added her on Facebook. She accepted.
Speaker 2: I said, Hi, do you remember me my DM and
Speaker 2: she said.
Speaker 1: No I don't. So I was like, great, I'm off
Speaker 1: to a bad start. And it did obviously leave much of.
Speaker 2: An impression high like man in many words, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: exactly you just right, And I'm just like who just
Speaker 2: was high in my head? I'm like who guy?
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it was a long road of courtship
Speaker 1: before I got the first date.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, that's my advice. Whenever someone's like I can't
Speaker 2: find a nice guy, I'm like, you can't make it easy.
Speaker 2: The good ones will hang around if they really like you.
Speaker 6: The sure, exactly how long were you dating before you
Speaker 6: popped the question?
Speaker 1: Two and a bit years?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I think we're about two and a half years.
Speaker 5: And what was that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 5: Did you do something special?
Speaker 2: It was magical. It was magical. We were in Bali
Speaker 2: and he disguised it as my birthday because every year
Speaker 2: I had had like a dud birthday and I just
Speaker 2: got over birthdays, Like every time my birthday came around,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I don't want to do anything.
Speaker 2: So when I started with Maddie, his thing was to
Speaker 2: make my birthday really nice. So he would always do
Speaker 2: something really cool for my birthday. And then in Bali,
Speaker 2: like it was around the time of my birthday. So
Speaker 2: in my head, he's organized this beautiful dinner for us,
Speaker 2: and we've got this lovely place there and this beautiful resort,
Speaker 2: and so like he had me blindfolded and I went
Speaker 2: down and they took my blindfold off and there was
Speaker 2: like candles everywhere. There's like these what do you call
Speaker 2: the pools the infinity pool.
Speaker 1: We're in u Wood, so like in the jungle at
Speaker 1: the hanging gardens of Uwood, and we had the double
Speaker 1: infinity pool and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was so much. And then had
Speaker 2: they had the dinner over the pool, and so he
Speaker 2: wanted a photographer to take a photo of the moment,
Speaker 2: and all he needed was just the moment. That's it,
Speaker 2: and then that's nice. But then the photographer just wouldn't
Speaker 2: leave and kept trying to like make us do weird
Speaker 2: things like like stand where the flower love hearts were
Speaker 2: holding our hands really far apart. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to do this too. I just trt to hug.
Speaker 1: So the thing that caught me off guard with the
Speaker 1: proposal was that I didn't expect myself to feel nervous.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been together for a while. I knew
Speaker 1: it was the right decision. There was no nerves leading
Speaker 1: into it, but for some reason, once I knew that
Speaker 1: it was imminent. When we're in the hotel room getting
Speaker 1: ready to go out for dinner that night, which was
Speaker 1: her birthday dinner, she was in the shower. I was
Speaker 1: so nervous that I had to keep myself busy, so
Speaker 1: I cleaned the hotel room from top to.
Speaker 3: Box and.
Speaker 1: Not my sort of style, especially while on holiday. She
Speaker 1: gets out of the shower, the place is spotless, and
Speaker 1: I'm doing push ups and she's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I couldn't even say push ups. I was so
Speaker 1: nervous that I just said fitness, fitness, and she was like,
Speaker 1: right over. So then I blindfolded and we got this
Speaker 1: kind of cart that took us down the mountainside into
Speaker 1: where the place was, and there was kind of flower
Speaker 1: pedals leading to then a giant flower pedal of hearts,
Speaker 1: and they'd arranged the dinner in the middle of the
Speaker 1: infinity pool, so they'd put like wood over it and
Speaker 1: made it really beautiful. And then we had the photographer there,
Speaker 1: and so then she undoes the bin and fold seas
Speaker 1: all this still thinks it's for her birthday dinner. And
Speaker 1: I've since stuck snuck behind her and dropped down to
Speaker 1: one knee. Sarah being Sarah just was chatterbox. Just this
Speaker 1: is the most beautiful thing. Oh my god, hello to
Speaker 1: the photographer, like just and I'm clean. While just waiting,
Speaker 1: I'm just like shaking nervously for her to turn around.
Speaker 2: Like taking it all in, like, w oh my god,
Speaker 2: look at this. This is amazing.
Speaker 1: She's never going to turn around, She's still going and.
Speaker 4: If she did turn she's gonna fall.
Speaker 1: And then so she finally turns around. I propose by
Speaker 1: that point I had what I'd planned to say just
Speaker 1: didn't come out. It was complete cotton, yeah, I thought.
Speaker 1: And so the money shot from the photographer is me
Speaker 1: like this because my arm had gotten so.
Speaker 7: Sore from holding it up that I looked out that photo,
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, were tired fitness.
Speaker 2: I could see he wanted to say something, and he
Speaker 2: just goes, marry me.
Speaker 1: I think I got out of it.
Speaker 8: I love you, plan like this whole thing to say,
Speaker 8: so well, remised so well spoke and he always has
Speaker 8: like things planned for what he wants to say, And
Speaker 8: I'm just like, yes, that's.
Speaker 5: The best birthday.
Speaker 4: Were you guys on TV at that point or.
Speaker 2: You have just started with goggle Box? No, no, no,
Speaker 2: we weren't. It was after I think we were engaged
Speaker 2: around the time we had started, so I think he
Speaker 2: had gotten engaged and then like maybe six months later
Speaker 2: or five months later. Yeah, we ended up getting on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's in your culture, and forgive me for
Speaker 4: not understanding away. I love it.
Speaker 3: Did you did you have to get approval? Get hilarious?
Speaker 2: This is the best question you could have asked.
Speaker 7: Ye, it is.
Speaker 1: I think it is a cultural thing to yes, get
Speaker 1: to get the farthest position. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: necessarily Arab culture. I think it's a lot of culture
Speaker 1: in j all right, Like I think it's.
Speaker 2: Very bad respect. So it's not just really about oh
Speaker 2: you have to ask the dad so much so as
Speaker 2: it's showing respect to the family. So like that's a
Speaker 2: big thing you'll always hear like from an ethnic family,
Speaker 2: whether it be Arab or Italian or Greek in my experience,
Speaker 2: so it's like they want the families to be respectful.
Speaker 2: You've got to be respectful and like I would never
Speaker 2: talk back to Matt's mum, and you know he was
Speaker 2: very polite and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, respect for your elders, especially your elders.
Speaker 2: Basically, I mean him, asked him my dad.
Speaker 1: So we'd gone to her dad's house for dinner and are.
Speaker 3: You already you don't clearly already popped the ground?
Speaker 1: No, okay, So there it was a couple of things
Speaker 1: I needed to get her dad away from her, cycled
Speaker 1: ask because she was also with me at the dinner,
Speaker 1: and so I'd said to him, Hey, he just built,
Speaker 1: like every old Lebanese man, a granny flat at the
Speaker 1: back of his house that he did himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was like with stuff he's kept for
Speaker 2: like twenty five thirty years that we kept telling him
Speaker 2: to throw, and he's like, see everyone told me throw
Speaker 2: throw Now look look I'm.
Speaker 1: Like the light bulb that he's kept in the box
Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Finally hold on, let me look. And he's got like
Speaker 2: a jar, like you have a.
Speaker 4: Jar, that's true.
Speaker 3: So he sucked stuff away.
Speaker 1: So he's built these whole thing. So I've said, Sam,
Speaker 1: why don't you take me out and show me what
Speaker 1: you've done. So we went out there and Sarah was
Speaker 1: in the main house while and so as soon as
Speaker 1: we got in there, I said, Sam, before he showed me,
Speaker 1: I need to tell you I'm going to ask Sarah
Speaker 1: to marry me. And he was in the middle of
Speaker 1: kind of showing me his stuff, and he just went, you, Okay,
Speaker 1: have baby while you're there. And I said, I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask her to marry me, and Bali he goes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: may have a baby while you're there. Anyway, the tiles,
Speaker 1: we're talking about this death and I was like, Sam,
Speaker 1: you heard what I said. He's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: good or good that was it.
Speaker 2: I remember he walked into Scharene's house and it's like
Speaker 2: all this beautifully architecture home, right, two artists, a sculptor
Speaker 2: and an artist, and it's concreted flaw AND's like hard on,
Speaker 2: you're not if they want they should tire.
Speaker 1: He asked my sister if she needed some tiles to
Speaker 1: finish off her renovation. Means poor thing, like they ran
Speaker 1: out of money, they couldn't finish the renovation.
Speaker 2: So like he's happy to help.
Speaker 4: So was your you think your dad then, Sarah, is
Speaker 4: he not a talkative fella? Are you, like, you know,
Speaker 4: sort of like men traditionally in Australia, we don't do
Speaker 4: a lot of talking to each other about matters of
Speaker 4: the heart, you know, so it's difficult to connect that way.
Speaker 3: So do you think it was easier for him just.
Speaker 2: To go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't They don't,
Speaker 2: especially that generation. They don't talk about like feelings and stuff.
Speaker 2: They just either get angry or get quiet. It's just
Speaker 2: like you know, like, yeah, they don't talk. So I
Speaker 2: think he didn't know what to say to Matt.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also think her, like especially now and my
Speaker 1: dad's the same. As they get older, they get more emotional,
Speaker 1: and I think he just wanted to not get emotional, right,
Speaker 1: so he was like okay, yeah, good change the subjects.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and first one to be married in your family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like unintentionally stereotypical, like what Arab kind of
Speaker 2: wants is like the first born daughter marrying a Lebanese
Speaker 2: boy and it's not even like intentionally, it's just just
Speaker 2: by chance, you know. And then had two boys, and
Speaker 2: they had two boys. My dad cried when he found
Speaker 2: out I was having boys. He's got like girls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and even the dogs are female, he says. So he
Speaker 2: remember him saying to me, I hope you have sons.
Speaker 2: And I was like, why I was wrong with the girls.
Speaker 2: He's like everyone in this house is a female, even
Speaker 2: the dog, Like I felt, he just needs some male energy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, like he just like they hold it in.
Speaker 1: We realized we both went through life thinking that we're
Speaker 1: going to have two girls because of just you know,
Speaker 1: Sarah's one of two girls. My older brother had two girls.
Speaker 1: My parents had two girls before they had two boys.
Speaker 1: All my uncles had two girls.
Speaker 2: So yeah, my mom's like five girls one boy.
Speaker 4: Wow, so we just the prince yeah.
Speaker 1: He was her dad the whole time, is like and
Speaker 1: my dad as well, you having a boy? You're having
Speaker 1: a boy. Yeah, And then we did and then we
Speaker 1: had two boys. Were like, what is going on with
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting that.
Speaker 2: My dad was well wishes, but you were talking to
Speaker 2: your dad about contraception conception. I was like, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? My dad was just hoping we have
Speaker 2: sons because he needs boys. Your dad's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: know by that I'm praying, I reckon it's boys.
Speaker 9: So, my.
Speaker 1: Have have you ever heard of doctor Chettle's method?
Speaker 4: No? I haven't, Okay, So, okay, this.
Speaker 3: Is a stir.
Speaker 1: My parents had two girls. They wanted to have a boy.
Speaker 1: So at that time, whenever it was, it would have
Speaker 1: been I don't know what years were we talking now
Speaker 1: long time. I was eighty seven, but my brother was eighty.
Speaker 1: So nineteen eighty there was a thing in the Woman's
Speaker 1: Weekly or whatever it was it was called, and it
Speaker 1: was Doctor Cheddele's Dolly magazine, Doll Maybe Maybe, and it
Speaker 1: was how to choose the gender that you want through
Speaker 1: the way you conceive your child, and it's meant to
Speaker 1: be ninety something percent effective. So my parents decided to
Speaker 1: give it a go. They had a boy. Then they
Speaker 1: did it again for the second they had a boy,
Speaker 1: which is what they wanted. So they got two girls
Speaker 1: and two boys. So that after my parents experience, my
Speaker 1: dad would then impart his knowledge onto all his friends
Speaker 1: who were in the same boat. The most recent one
Speaker 1: is his barber. This was only five years ago. He's
Speaker 1: barber who had had five five girl, five girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was going and his wife had said to him,
Speaker 1: if you don't get your boy on this one, then
Speaker 1: that's it. We're done. My dad said, I'll google doctor
Speaker 1: Scheddle's method, and finally enough he had a boy on
Speaker 1: the six. Dad got three haircuts for three months. So Dad,
Speaker 1: you come home days with just My dad doesn't drink,
Speaker 1: but he will come home in days with just bottles
Speaker 1: of alcohols. Like you told someone about that scotch.
Speaker 2: Someone will give him and yeah, he doesn't drink, so
Speaker 2: it's just collect. They've just got a beautiful cabinet tree
Speaker 2: and it's just just alcohol.
Speaker 5: You guys, did.
Speaker 6: I have it?
Speaker 1: I don't know the size behind him, but there's a
Speaker 1: part of like sexual position, the time of month that
Speaker 1: you can see. The big one is the temperature of
Speaker 1: the women's parts before you have sex and I think after.
Speaker 1: And then the difference between girl and boy I believe
Speaker 1: is baking soda or two differentemicals that you need to
Speaker 1: bathe in.
Speaker 2: That right, like your dad guess because for me, I can't.
Speaker 2: You know, people will use the app and stuff. I
Speaker 2: can never say when I'm ovulating nuts hats, we had
Speaker 2: to use like ovulation tests and stuff, and so your
Speaker 2: chances of a boy I would say using that more
Speaker 2: high because it's always really close to your relations whereas
Speaker 2: with a girl it has to be like further before.
Speaker 1: That's that's a theory though that's not basically that's.
Speaker 2: Part of doctor Shurtles. Yeah, from what I've been told
Speaker 2: by Gilder and George Bart, that's part.
Speaker 1: Of doctor Why why don't you use it for the
Speaker 1: second to get a girl? And we're like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to take the fun out of it when we're trying
Speaker 1: to do a science experiment.
Speaker 3: While whatever I have, I mean, if you mix baking
Speaker 3: soda and apple, I don't think.
Speaker 6: It's what they used to get stains out of carpet.
Speaker 3: And that stuffs amazing.
Speaker 1: That the biggest explosion we've ever had in the bedroom. Sentah.
Speaker 1: So there's a really funny scene because my brother, I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you know, Chris, he's on radio over
Speaker 1: in Dubai. Yeah, and he's on he's on a TV show,
Speaker 1: was on a TV show on Netflix over there called
Speaker 1: The Bio Bling, of which my parents were also on
Speaker 1: because they were over there staying with him for a
Speaker 1: few months while they filmed.
Speaker 3: Is this a reality show?
Speaker 1: Reality show? And there's this great scene from Dubai bling
Speaker 1: where my mom is telling a doctor how to conceive
Speaker 1: for a boy or a girl and it just crosses
Speaker 1: to the doctor's face just like I don't quite medically
Speaker 1: recommend this. I'll look into it.
Speaker 3: Thank you you Australian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, how.
Speaker 5: Did they find you too?
Speaker 4: For goggle Box? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it was funny. It was kind of through a
Speaker 1: friend of a friend who was casting for the show,
Speaker 1: and we just I just got a call from a
Speaker 1: friend one day saying, Hey, do you want to do
Speaker 1: this thing? And I was like, what is it. She's like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, I'll take care of everything. You just you
Speaker 1: just need an audition and the audition's happening next week,
Speaker 1: and so okay, why not. But we had no preconceived
Speaker 1: idea around what the show should be, or what we
Speaker 1: should say or how we should act. And I think
Speaker 1: that probably helped with, you know, getting on the show
Speaker 1: in the end, because we just were ourselves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And was entertainment part of what you guys were
Speaker 4: doing prior to it? Or were you what we what
Speaker 4: we're both doing before goggle Bosh?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily like entertainment in that area, Like I was
Speaker 2: a freelance makeup artist, and then I also had a
Speaker 2: hair and makeup agency, and I did a lot of
Speaker 2: like social media stuff anyway, like videos and stuff, and
Speaker 2: so naturally I'm around a lot of that, you know,
Speaker 2: with filming and things like that, so it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: like I was in front of the camera for that stuff.
Speaker 2: It was usually behind the camera. And you know a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, there's companies going to hire you
Speaker 2: for different you know, talent and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So Sarah had had a follow I didn't at all
Speaker 1: doing I love social media and I was quite active
Speaker 1: on social media. I love photography, would post. But I
Speaker 1: always worked in the media industry and I worked in
Speaker 1: corporate in both Yeah Media agency and media publisher lens
Speaker 1: and I still do Yeah we Yeah, still do our
Speaker 1: day jobs.
Speaker 2: I also do a podcast for Mama Mea This Glorious Mess.
Speaker 2: Hard launched it yesterday. Yes, I've got a segment there
Speaker 2: where like if someone has a question or like a situation,
Speaker 2: basically they're you know, doing a voice message, give me
Speaker 2: the situation and I can give them my thoughts, share
Speaker 2: my thoughts and see if I can help them out,
Speaker 2: whether it helps or not. I don't know, but I try.
Speaker 5: Oh good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really really fun. It's been really fun.
Speaker 1: So that's all you right, and matter you're still doing
Speaker 1: your still in my corporate role. Yeah, so I've had
Speaker 1: a fifteen year career and yeah, something I still enjoy And.
Speaker 4: What is that like then going into corporate land because
Speaker 4: it's a hugely popular show, goggle Box, and so they've
Speaker 4: got to be people in there that walk past you
Speaker 4: in the in the office and go double take you
Speaker 4: on TV.
Speaker 1: It's really funny, and you know it's I don't assume
Speaker 1: anyone watches it, but then you know, I'll interview someone
Speaker 1: for a job and then you hear through other channels
Speaker 1: that the person got off the interview, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I was the guy from goggle Box just interview me.
Speaker 1: And I think most people assume we are on TV
Speaker 1: full time, and maybe that's right for some people, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to give up my my long career and
Speaker 1: I love what I do, so I stuck to it.
Speaker 1: And so people were like, wait a minute, what's the
Speaker 1: guy from goggle Box to it?
Speaker 2: You've got to work event and they think you're the
Speaker 2: talent that's been booked for the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't know, you're not eating with those people.
Speaker 3: You're special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get for all the keynotes and all the
Speaker 1: public speaking, and it's like, yeah, it's it's funny. Oh
Speaker 1: you got your the key speaker today. It's like, no, actually,
Speaker 1: just work for the company and I'm not getting paid
Speaker 1: to be here. This is part of my day job.
Speaker 6: Has it changed the way you watch TV being on
Speaker 6: the show, Like can you just watch it normally and
Speaker 6: not feel like you have to be watching it intensely
Speaker 6: to comment?
Speaker 2: I have to like try not to talk. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: got into this like, oh, you know, they love your opinion,
Speaker 2: so you talk, and you get doing it for so
Speaker 2: many years you're like so opinionated. So I'm talking still,
Speaker 2: like I'm on the show when we're watching stuff, and
Speaker 2: Matt's just like I'm trying to listen. Stop talking. Yes,
Speaker 2: I've gotta rewind it now.
Speaker 1: I can't Like, yeah, I don't mind when someone's talking
Speaker 1: over mats because it's like there's no plot line and
Speaker 1: I can just jump in at any moment. But often
Speaker 1: for our personal watching, we'd be watching like a drama
Speaker 1: of subsort or game of Thrones last night at our
Speaker 1: launch and Seriens in the background. Oh my god, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Can we just watch this scene out
Speaker 1: I'm trying to listen.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: Has been on the show strengthened your relationship?
Speaker 1: Do you feel a relationship with a strong prior? And
Speaker 1: I don't think it's changed, ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't see any change, if anything, is just.
Speaker 5: Like just part of your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're literally just part of the furniture for us now
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think our life circumstance changes your
Speaker 1: relationship more than anything. I think when we think about
Speaker 1: the last few years, it's been a whirl wind. We
Speaker 1: have hardly any time of when it's just her and
Speaker 1: I and we used to be me staring at Sarah
Speaker 1: and Sarah staring at me. And now we've got a
Speaker 1: five way kind of pentagon happening at home with the
Speaker 1: dog and the two kids and working multiple jobs and
Speaker 1: doing so many things. I come home from work and
Speaker 1: we film the show, and our life is at a
Speaker 1: different pace, and I think that makes it harder for
Speaker 1: us to make sure we find time for one another.
Speaker 2: What do you do we do what works right now.
Speaker 2: It's like survival mode because you've got like two young kids.
Speaker 2: I'm looking after the kids and trying to work a
Speaker 2: bit while I'm doing that, like juggling that, and then
Speaker 2: his work is so full on that sometimes he doesn't
Speaker 2: finish until the kids going to bed or he might
Speaker 2: be away or something like that. So like we're really
Speaker 2: just rather than thinking too much into things, sometimes we
Speaker 2: just go, this is what we need to do to
Speaker 2: survive right now. And then when we find each other
Speaker 2: like sitting down and it's just us like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: just ask for a bit. We just give each other
Speaker 2: a hug and we're like, oh, this is nice, and
Speaker 2: then like the baby will crab, but like that was lovely.
Speaker 2: I'll see you later, you know. It's really just survived. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't we don't think too much into it. So
Speaker 2: for us, it's like if we're not spending quality time
Speaker 2: with each other too much. For me, a big thing
Speaker 2: is family time. I like, even if it's just coffee
Speaker 2: in the morning on a Sunday, like shall we walk
Speaker 2: to the cafe? Like that's enough for me. Like I'm
Speaker 2: like I just need that, just that family time once
Speaker 2: in a while when we can fit it in like
Speaker 2: that's all it is, because I know, look that's temporary.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Eventually he keeps getting bit older and you can then.
Speaker 4: And then you'll be going, oh remember when we used
Speaker 4: we're in that phase now off I was going.
Speaker 3: Oh, there was so little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, hey, you know what I've been going through
Speaker 4: our bucket of photographs and literally there's two buckets just
Speaker 4: full of pictures. And of course the first one there's
Speaker 4: a million photographs. Of the second one there's maybe two
Speaker 4: hundred thousand. The third one there's about a thousand pictures,
Speaker 4: which I hear that a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you also don't have as much time you're juggling.
Speaker 4: Part of what happened with us was when Lotus was born,
Speaker 4: I was twenty eight years ago. We were using film cameras,
Speaker 4: so all the film got developed, so there's hard copies
Speaker 4: of that. For Bodes who came in two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: it's all digital, and so if that phone is gone,
Speaker 4: then often we don't know where those pictures are, you know,
Speaker 4: but in looking back at those pictures, it goes so fast,
Speaker 4: and there are moments where you want to go God,
Speaker 4: you know, when you're in the trenches like you're talking about,
Speaker 4: and you're changing diper at three am or or doing
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and.
Speaker 3: You go, oh my god, how's this going to get?
Speaker 4: You know, it goes so quick and then blink of
Speaker 4: an eye, and it literally feels like a blink of
Speaker 4: an eye.
Speaker 2: I remember people trying to tell me about sleep training
Speaker 2: the kids in the beginning first time parent. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to do the right thing and like trying to listen
Speaker 2: and try and do this, and they go, should time,
Speaker 2: this is your time that and I was like, I
Speaker 2: do bloody want to do any of this? Why am
Speaker 2: I doing this? It's not in my instinct to want
Speaker 2: to be separated from my child, And they go, but
Speaker 2: what about you and your husband? You're going to sleep
Speaker 2: in the same bed. I'm like, I don't care when
Speaker 2: my husband's sleeping.
Speaker 5: Are you kid?
Speaker 2: I don't care right now? Are you joking? I'm going
Speaker 2: to care about a fully grown adult. I have barely slept,
Speaker 2: whereas I can get extra sleep. If the baby's next
Speaker 2: to me, like my toddlers sleeping next to me, it's fine,
Speaker 2: I'll see him in the morning. I'm just gonna like
Speaker 2: I stopped listening to people and like up to now,
Speaker 2: you know, I've got my kids in the bed with
Speaker 2: me and put Maddie in the other room. Sometimes he
Speaker 2: doesn't even have the heater. I'm going off to the tundra.
Speaker 1: The rental we're in right now is just freezing.
Speaker 2: Like this works, you know, And you know what's amazing
Speaker 2: is like when people ask him, like wow, but like
Speaker 2: what does my husband think of it? I'm like, he's
Speaker 2: happy because he sleeps as well.
Speaker 5: He works exactly right.
Speaker 2: I don't have a husband that's against that. It's working
Speaker 2: for both of us right. Also, like we're just like
Speaker 2: on par I think we're we're equally on par with
Speaker 2: what we want.
Speaker 4: Guess it's the main thing too in a relationship. If
Speaker 4: you're on the same page, yes, it's it works and
Speaker 4: whatever the page is, whatever you guys want to write
Speaker 4: on that page.
Speaker 2: You have to be comfortable with your page, right, and
Speaker 2: one's page is different. As long as you're on par
Speaker 2: you're on the same page with each other, you both
Speaker 2: understand it. You both trust each other. Is such a
Speaker 2: big thing. Like I don't think I'm not sleeping in
Speaker 2: the same bed as my husband is going to go
Speaker 2: elsewhere Where's he going to go?
Speaker 1: He's so.
Speaker 9: Places electric, she barely has time, he can barely shower
Speaker 9: up by around Where's he going.
Speaker 1: Ted to go?
Speaker 2: Anywhere?
Speaker 1: I think the if I think about what's helped throughout
Speaker 1: this period has been a that neither of us hold
Speaker 1: a grudge. I think we have times where we get
Speaker 1: angry at one another or whatever, but within an hour
Speaker 1: we've both calm down and we're completely over it. We
Speaker 1: never really go to bed angry with each other or
Speaker 1: calld this long term grudge, which I think helps. And
Speaker 1: then the other thing, particularly in our life, we've felt
Speaker 1: that's really helped us is having a partnership where we're
Speaker 1: both really comfortable with your primary responsible over here and
Speaker 1: I'm primary responsible over here, and then we're secondary responsible
Speaker 1: to both those things for each other, and being really
Speaker 1: clear and not trying to put too much guilt on
Speaker 1: one another about the other part. So because otherwise it
Speaker 1: becomes a you know, you're doing this and you're doing that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not doing this and I'm not doing that,
Speaker 1: and we could spend all that time fighting about all
Speaker 1: the things. So we've got, you know, the roles that
Speaker 1: we set for each other that we both know. I'm
Speaker 1: leading this and you're leading that. You know, and they're
Speaker 1: not necessarily always the traditional things that you think of
Speaker 1: between husband and wife and the primary mother and the
Speaker 1: and the secondary.
Speaker 2: But Sarah's a woman, he's a man. It's literally just
Speaker 2: how this works. Like Sarah and we know someone who's
Speaker 2: switched around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah does all the di y. You will not
Speaker 1: see me putting anything together. Sarah rocked walls and partied.
Speaker 2: Up asking something. I'm like, I'll take over. It's fine.
Speaker 1: We had one of our neighbors come knock on the
Speaker 1: door and Sarah answered and they were like, is your
Speaker 1: husband home? We need help with like the plumbing, and
Speaker 1: I was like, she was like, he's home, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he's the one you want to.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say he's home, but you're asking for
Speaker 2: the wrong person.
Speaker 1: Whereas I planned our wedding, I help. I desired her wedding.
Speaker 4: You know, did you really so?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What did I say? Designer? We had a designer.
Speaker 3: Designer.
Speaker 1: I had to say how it was designed and helped get.
Speaker 5: Did you design the wedding ring or did you go
Speaker 5: out and buy them together?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: I did the wedding ring so like, you know, Sarah
Speaker 1: is the primary care and I'm the secondary care for sure,
Speaker 1: sometimes away for work for three days four days at
Speaker 1: a time, and you know, Sarah's has the primary emotional
Speaker 1: responsibility of taking care of our children.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think that's I think that's great because sometimes you need
Speaker 4: to know when to follow, you know, you need when
Speaker 4: to pick it up and when you're the leader. We're
Speaker 4: in the home the other day and Ali and Boats
Speaker 4: were having a conversation.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is I do not need to
Speaker 3: be in that conversation. I can sit back and kind
Speaker 3: of listen, but not but in ski Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 3: two other kids to figure that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is the thing. People think you know
Speaker 2: that and oh you have this conversation and you know
Speaker 2: that straight away, right, But that's not the case. That
Speaker 2: takes arguments. Sometimes we've had blowouts, Like we've had like
Speaker 2: arguments where we both in some level thought that one
Speaker 2: wasn't appreciating the other, but it wasn't the case. And
Speaker 2: then that argument allowed us to communicate and then we
Speaker 2: were able to like, oh okay, and we've got into
Speaker 2: a really good place after that argument. Yeah, like everyone
Speaker 2: thinks it's like, oh, you have this chart and you
Speaker 2: communicate and that's how it works. It's like no, no,
Speaker 2: Sometimes you argue because you might be overtired and like
Speaker 2: stretched out thin, and then that leads to a nice
Speaker 2: conversation and you're in a good place.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, What values or lessons from your Lebanese upbringing do
Speaker 6: you really prioritize in your life?
Speaker 1: For me, you know, my dad was the primary bread
Speaker 1: winner growing up. My mom worked as well, but my
Speaker 1: dad was the primary bread winner, so you know, my
Speaker 1: mom played a more vital role in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: our upbringing and how we were at home. And I
Speaker 1: think what I've learnt from my mom, I've probably learnt
Speaker 1: my dad's work ethic, and from my mom, I've learnt
Speaker 1: to instill confidence in your kids. I think, if if
Speaker 1: there's any one thing I want Malik to learn from me,
Speaker 1: is that that he's good and he's got he's full
Speaker 1: of confidence, and that he goes into the world knowing
Speaker 1: his worth. Getting emotional thinking about that.
Speaker 4: It's really important for boys and for girls and for
Speaker 4: boys to be kind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, when I think of, you know
Speaker 1: the world in which kids are growing up in now,
Speaker 1: especially young boys. So I heard about that story about
Speaker 1: this kid recently with the I think he might have
Speaker 1: seen it. But you know, just a suicide rate in
Speaker 1: general for young kids. It's just I think the most
Speaker 1: important thing. And I think when I think of my
Speaker 1: upbringing with my mom, she she gave me a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence. Yeah yeah, well done.
Speaker 2: Yeah she did an amaze She does an amazing job
Speaker 2: with her even with my kids, she's amazing when it
Speaker 2: comes to stuff like that. See, my mom's Asian and
Speaker 2: my mom's Filipino, and then my dad's a many so
Speaker 2: like dad's well, growing up, I didn't know it was
Speaker 2: an Asian thing because you know, you have fellow friends
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, you don't really hear like
Speaker 2: I long year. You know, it's very like a stereotypic
Speaker 2: like you laugh on it later kind of stuff. But
Speaker 2: they're tough, it's tough, it's tough luck. It's tough luck
Speaker 2: with Asians, but they they get stuff done. So what
Speaker 2: I got from my mum, which I think is really good,
Speaker 2: was it was never like complaining about stuff she had
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: She just did it.
Speaker 2: So for me, even as an adult, I don't get
Speaker 2: when people have to complain about things, and I'm like
Speaker 2: they're having a full conversation before something gets done, like
Speaker 2: just do it, Like, just do it, man, Like stop us, Maddie,
Speaker 2: I get so impatient with it. I'm like, just pick
Speaker 2: it up and go. Like I got that from my mum,
Speaker 2: so we work. It was really good because my get
Speaker 2: it done. If the kids are crying at nighttime and
Speaker 2: they need an abby change, in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 2: get it done. Like it's just get it done. My
Speaker 2: mum was like that as a parent with us. I
Speaker 2: never remember her complaining about all the stuff, the hardships
Speaker 2: she had to do. And only as an adult and
Speaker 2: I had kids did I realized she had no family
Speaker 2: here and it was literally her with kids who were
Speaker 2: like twelve months apart, and she did so much stuff
Speaker 2: with just that mentality that like, you know, that go
Speaker 2: get it thing. And my dad, obviously is my dad
Speaker 2: was like a panel beater growing up and stuff, and
Speaker 2: so like I became really handy and thrifty. I got
Speaker 2: that work ethic from my dad and like that's what
Speaker 2: I got. And I feel like culturally around me, I
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of the girls who are close
Speaker 2: with their dad tend to do the same thing, and
Speaker 2: a lot of like the Asians who grew up with
Speaker 2: like you know, they pillow moms. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2: We're all like, just good work, ethic, just get it done,
Speaker 2: let's do this, let's do that. It's not really like
Speaker 2: excuses not to do it. It's more an excuse to
Speaker 2: do it sort of thing.
Speaker 3: You guys are amazing.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was meant to have two boys.
Speaker 3: Oh clearly you did.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have friends who are like, I can't see you
Speaker 2: with girls. I'm like, I feel like I was meant
Speaker 2: to be a boy mum, because like I was talking
Speaker 2: to my friend's daughter and he goes you talk to
Speaker 2: her like she's an adult, Like come on, like all right,
Speaker 2: yeah right, let's do it. Come on, let's go like
Speaker 2: I can't meet me like, oh, princess, Like it's really nice.
Speaker 2: But it's just like the way I am, the way
Speaker 2: I was brought up, Like I think it suits boys.
Speaker 3: So unclogged his first toilet, Yeah, on the door.
Speaker 1: He's peeing on the floor a lot at the moment,
Speaker 1: which is the problem. So you walk into the bathroom
Speaker 1: and it stinks a.
Speaker 2: Tissue on the floor because Matt's like, when you go
Speaker 2: to the toilet, if it gets on the floor, you
Speaker 2: got to clean it. So he puts a tissue there
Speaker 2: because he's tired, and it's like it's absorbed it. I'll
Speaker 2: come back from.
Speaker 3: Smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's a cookie. Yeah yeah, he scooter broke. I
Speaker 2: taught him how to fix his scooter. Applies in my handbag.
Speaker 2: I should do the whole. You know what's in your
Speaker 2: bag and people now.
Speaker 3: Now we're talking like a gerber tool or.
Speaker 2: Like it's a proper you know, it's like pointed. It's
Speaker 2: probably like this long right pointed so I can get in.
Speaker 3: You got the needle.
Speaker 4: Was one of those you know, like a Swiss Army
Speaker 4: Knights sort of.
Speaker 2: Thing with all no, no, no, it's needlenose pier alone.
Speaker 2: I need to get a Swiss.
Speaker 3: Take him on the airplane.
Speaker 2: But in my head, I'm like, you've got kids, You're
Speaker 2: always at the park. What if something breaks? You need
Speaker 2: a flyer.
Speaker 4: Well, we were talking about the bathroom with Malleck ping
Speaker 4: on a tissue. Let's stay in there and hop in
Speaker 4: the shower.
Speaker 5: Quick answers, two minute shower, Here we go.
Speaker 4: Question, what about your relationship makes you feel the most.
Speaker 2: Grateful that he takes over all the stuff he does.
Speaker 2: He has an extra spreadsheet for our life, like I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about what bills are you, I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about organizing anything. I don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about being on top of anything. I can
Speaker 2: just focus on what I need to do because he
Speaker 2: literally takes whatever he takes over he does it perfectly, beautifully,
Speaker 2: like beautifully. That is a full appreciation, like I love it.
Speaker 2: One less thing for me to think about.
Speaker 1: I've got an organized husband, which apparently isn't too common
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Every time someone's like, oh, I needed to put my
Speaker 2: friend's clothes out, my husband's clothes out, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't need to do anything.
Speaker 1: You know, when I met Sarah per Warmth, and you know,
Speaker 1: the love she gave me was very evident, and I
Speaker 1: think seeing her do that with our children is probably
Speaker 1: the best. She's relentless in her care for our kids.
Speaker 1: And yeah, she's often completely I'll be gone for three
Speaker 1: four days as no complaints. She's up in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night changing diary and appies and all the stuff,
Speaker 1: and yeah, she does that day in day out.
Speaker 5: If you could relive one day with each other. What
Speaker 5: would that be?
Speaker 2: Oh, what a good question.
Speaker 1: Relive one day with each other. It would probably for
Speaker 1: me be a day on our honeymoon somewhere in Europe.
Speaker 2: Oh answer. I'm in the Amalfi Coast with you right
Speaker 2: now as we.
Speaker 1: Speak, sitting by a beach or eating some French bread somewhere.
Speaker 1: I know the day, which day?
Speaker 2: The watermelon place? Yes, yeah, where I sacrificed you in
Speaker 2: the water because the wave knocked me off the rock.
Speaker 2: But but that place where they have this watermelon time
Speaker 2: and like bring this watermelon out and you're like laying there.
Speaker 1: One fire beach in in Prayana on the Mouth coast,
Speaker 1: having a cocktail with watermelon being served on the ocean,
Speaker 1: just jumping off my god, the little.
Speaker 2: Cliff side, just laying next to each other there just
Speaker 2: we were both just like can you can you believe
Speaker 2: we're here? This is just and to be together doing that,
Speaker 2: I could relive that day.
Speaker 4: We'll Aside from watermelon beach, what the world needs more
Speaker 4: of is.
Speaker 3: Passion.
Speaker 2: M yeah, love and compassion.
Speaker 5: Last question, can you choose one word to describe each other?
Speaker 2: Harry, No, I'm joking, joking, that's fair King, I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the clippering is a situation, but
Speaker 2: like that wasn't my way. I'm sure I've got a
Speaker 2: nice one.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 2: You motivated. His motivation is next to none. Like it
Speaker 2: motivates me seeing him. I thought I was a motivated
Speaker 2: and driven person. I'm not compared to him. Like I'll
Speaker 2: see him do things and he's so like h focused.
Speaker 2: He can be quite focused. Roll I'm just like the butterfly.
Speaker 2: Like I can be trying to do something and then
Speaker 2: like just stop and he's like he even tells me,
Speaker 2: He's like, you have done like five six things, but
Speaker 2: you need to just focus on one. I'm like, you're right,
Speaker 2: can't even argue that. Like, he's just so focused and driven.
Speaker 1: We always say if there was two of me in
Speaker 1: the relationship would be divorced, if those two of Sarah
Speaker 1: would be homeless.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's maybe something coconuts.
Speaker 1: We balance each other out because I'm one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour and she's really relaxed, and I think that
Speaker 1: helps in our household. My one word for Sarah would
Speaker 1: probably be and I've probably mentioned in our wedding speech,
Speaker 1: would be light. I think like the light of my life.
Speaker 1: I always think of Sarah.
Speaker 2: Just that's nice.
Speaker 3: Well we've ever had either of those?
Speaker 5: Have it motivated the number of.
Speaker 4: Everyone's unique Maddie and Sarah, thanks so much for being
Speaker 4: with us today. We can't wait to see you back
Speaker 4: on Google Box in the future, and we'll look forward
Speaker 4: to seeing the next sea.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having so much, so much for having
Speaker 2: usked and such a lovely chat. It really has and
Speaker 2: it's nice hearing some things that Maddy thinks about.
Speaker 5: Nice to reiterate with.
Speaker 2: Love at the bar.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, see you on the Telly. We'll be
Speaker 3: watching you, watching us, watching you. And off they go, Ah,
Speaker 3: my gosh, so great.
Speaker 4: That's such a fun chocks, such a fun couple.
Speaker 6: Talk about balancing each other out. I mean, they already
Speaker 6: know that about themselves anyway, though. They really balance each
Speaker 6: other out, and they really appreciate each other's strengths as well.
Speaker 6: And I think that's super key in relationship to know
Speaker 6: you've got this, thank you for taking that, I've got this,
Speaker 6: I'm in control of that, and then we're good, go forward.
Speaker 4: It's a really good recipe for a strong, respectful, fun
Speaker 4: yes time together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's why I love it when you take the
Speaker 5: rubbish out, you are so good at that.
Speaker 3: And I love it when you buy the bags. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you do the shop.
Speaker 5: I'll well, thanks so much for listening everyone. We hope
Speaker 5: you enjoyed that.
Speaker 6: And of course you can catch up with Maddie anyway
Speaker 6: on goggle Box when it's on your Telly Maddie and
Speaker 6: Jade and Bane the Dog.
Speaker 4: Bane the dog who's become a star.
Speaker 5: In his own right.
Speaker 4: He's a hell of a humper, that dog. He's got
Speaker 4: some big long du claws as well scrapping the legs.
Speaker 3: Hey, we'll catch up with you next time on separate bathrooms.
Speaker 5: See yeah,