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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and whipp A podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. One in five Australians are shoplifting from supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: So okay, there's four of us here in the studio. Well,

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Speaker 2: let's include Macca as well. Who's the klepto out of

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Speaker 2: us here?

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Speaker 1: I would say that I could correct that statistic. Or

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Speaker 1: five out of five are stealing from supermarkets?

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Speaker 3: In what way?

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Speaker 1: Put your nap, put your hand up. If you've never

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Speaker 1: stolen from a supermarket, I'll give me a break.

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Speaker 3: Kidding. Why would I have stolen from a supermart?

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Speaker 1: I did it the other day without even thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: You do, I didn't scan the bag that I ended

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Speaker 1: up putting my stuff into that I paid for. Well,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you just didn't think about it? Just grab

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Speaker 1: a bag and put it on there, and then the

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Speaker 1: next thing and asked scam a wheatbeak, scam of cheese,

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Speaker 1: scam of milk.

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Speaker 2: Don't say that I did.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't, just didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 3: But you put the bag on the on the thing,

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Speaker 3: the running thing that they should swipe it.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not on their own self checkout.

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Speaker 2: So nine percent of shop is admitted to not scanning

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Speaker 2: items before leaving the supermarket. This is on purpose, while

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Speaker 2: another ten percent deliberately about what they had scanned to

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Speaker 2: get a cheaper price. I think we may have done that.

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Speaker 2: You may have made the mistake.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. Mistakes happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the different types of capskins, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Look those they have pictures? Yeah, is it a Fuji

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Speaker 1: or a pink lady? Well, those ones are cheaper, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Now the barcode on them does it for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: When you put them down, it scans it so you

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Speaker 3: can't lie. But then you still have to do the

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Speaker 3: way god.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So well thirteen twenty fourteen, I want to hear

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Speaker 2: from people this morning to give us certain scenarios at

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Speaker 2: certain practices, and I want to see if you think

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Speaker 2: it's stealing or not. Okay, so I'll throw a few

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Speaker 2: at you guys. When I go to subway, I get

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Speaker 2: a foot long and I get a medium soft drink.

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Speaker 2: Now it's not all you can drink. So I I

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Speaker 2: eat my subway, I eat my foot long, then I

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Speaker 2: drink my soft drink and on the way out I

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Speaker 2: fill it up.

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Speaker 1: Stealing.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's stealing.

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Speaker 1: We didn't pay for it. It's not what you paid for.

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Speaker 1: You paid for one service, a full cup of soft drink.

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Speaker 2: It's watered down anyway.

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Speaker 1: Matter, No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Do you add ice?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Because I love I'd put it in the Honestly, it'll

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Speaker 4: cost them about three cents.

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, I do it. Don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 1: do you want my thoughts or the law? No, definitely

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't care twenty four cent.

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Speaker 1: Any other scenarios, subway wouldn't care either.

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Speaker 2: How's this one? You know, sushi have soshihub Now I

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Speaker 2: have left it up to you to pit your littleys

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Speaker 2: soy sauces shaps fish and you were Sarbi's it's not stealing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going hell for leather and we have got a

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Speaker 2: little jar at home.

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Speaker 1: Squeezing the mouth full of those little soy sauces.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now it's not stealing because they allow you that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they say, help yourself yourself.

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Speaker 2: Stupid move by soushi hab to leave it up to us.

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Speaker 1: If anybody tries to charge me for sauce or condiments,

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Speaker 1: im ropable, absolutely furious.

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Speaker 3: They've built it in anyway paying for it?

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Speaker 2: What is one hotel room. We know that you can

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Speaker 2: take the moisturizer, you can take their shampoo and the conditioner.

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Speaker 2: Not stealing. No, can you take the pad and pen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I always take the pen. Are you allowed

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Speaker 1: to love a pen? I thought that was stealing? No,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so.

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Speaker 3: And they don't last very long. There's so little ink

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Speaker 3: in those.

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Speaker 1: There's one place I went the other day and they

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Speaker 1: had really thick, nicely heavy weighted pens and they say

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Speaker 1: please take one on the counter.

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Speaker 3: And the QT and camera give you really nice notepads

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Speaker 3: that are great for shopping lists. So Gary, whenever it

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Speaker 3: goes to Canberra for work, brings them home for it.

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Speaker 1: That's good, isn't it stick on the fridge?

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Speaker 2: Raw?

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Speaker 3: Some of them do?

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: He's another one at a hotel. You know when you're

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Speaker 2: walking to your room sometimes and the housekeeper is there,

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Speaker 2: but they're collecting new stuff. They're bending down doing something

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Speaker 2: else and they've got their little.

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Speaker 1: Carriage there and take extra Can you.

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Speaker 2: Just take a couple of extra bottles of water?

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Speaker 1: It's a bit rude, but it's not stealing. It's a

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Speaker 1: lack of courtesy, But no, you will not be done

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Speaker 1: for theft.

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Speaker 4: Can I give you one that this exact conversation over

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Speaker 4: the weekend my cousin shops of Bunnings is a training

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Speaker 4: a lot of shopping at Bunnings, and got back to

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Speaker 4: his car, went through the cash st edges to pay

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Speaker 4: for anything, realized that the person who was doing the

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Speaker 4: transaction hadn't swiped a couple of things, but only realized

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Speaker 4: once he got back to the site. So he then

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Speaker 4: got back to the site, had paid for everything he thought,

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Speaker 4: realized he got a couple of things for free, didn't

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Speaker 4: go back.

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Speaker 2: Is that stealing?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Unintentional?

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Speaker 2: I would say no, when you have such a huge

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Speaker 2: company like Bunning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that sort of sits in place with when

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Speaker 3: I got my very first wedding dress cleaned and a

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Speaker 3: woman missed. You know, that costs hundreds of dollars into

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Speaker 3: the prospect. So instead of like three hundred three.

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Speaker 1: Dollars swipe.

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Speaker 3: In that situation, I didn't really think about it till life.

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Speaker 1: Probably didn't cost the business anything. Yeah, I mean there

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Speaker 1: would have been labor. I'm sure there would have been machinery.

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Speaker 3: They man handled the dress that you'd already ripped on

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's another one at the service station. I

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Speaker 1: remember it happening to me clearly when I was with

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Speaker 1: Dad one day and the guy, let's call it ten

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Speaker 1: dollars of fuel, I gave him twenty dollars. He thought

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Speaker 1: I'd given him a fifty. Yeah, so he gave me

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Speaker 1: the change, which is obviously more than I handed over.

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Speaker 1: And then I got back in the car and I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: good is this the blokes cashed me up when it

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Speaker 1: was only ten dollars of steel.

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Speaker 2: I would take that back.

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Speaker 3: His till won't balance.

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Speaker 1: How old is he? And I said quite a young guy,

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Speaker 1: And he went, then you.

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Speaker 2: Go back go yeah, that's fair enough.

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Speaker 1: So boring Johnny.

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Speaker 2: It's the same as the sloping lunch anymore.

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Speaker 4: The size of the store right like at Bannings, you go, oh,

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Speaker 4: they can afford it. But if it was Johnny's neighborhood, Hardwak,

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Speaker 4: you'd go back in yep.

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Speaker 1: Because Johnny would cash the till at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, and that probably depended on what meal was there.

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Speaker 2: Let's just get one from Terry on the Central Coast.

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Speaker 2: What do you think stealing Terry.

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Speaker 5: I'm guilty of doing this. I broke the stalk off

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Speaker 5: the broccoli.

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Speaker 6: The big chunky stalk wave to broccoli and got it

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Speaker 6: for a cheaper.

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Speaker 2: So what are okay?

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Speaker 3: Go wait because the stalk is the heaviest bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I don't have a huge issue with that, Terry.

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Speaker 2: But he's man handling the broccoli and no one's going

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Speaker 2: to buy the stork.

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Speaker 1: No one's going to buy the stork. But Terry didn't

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Speaker 1: want to buy the stork. He didn't need the extended

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Speaker 1: stork the head of the broccoli, so he's not going

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Speaker 1: there for a thick stalk.

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Speaker 2: Poor Terry might have to sit down with you, Terry,

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Speaker 2: and have a chat about storks and the birds and

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Speaker 2: the bees.

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Speaker 5: I've been a naughty boy.

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Speaker 2: You have been a naughty boy, all right, thurteen twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Any other scenarios that you're a little bit confused about,

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Speaker 2: is it stealing or not? We will be the where

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Speaker 2: you caught this morning.

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Speaker 1: Terry's not going to jail, is he? What are you

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Speaker 1: in for stealing the stalk off the brockel? Steal? Steal? Steal?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that is the question. To steal or not to steal?

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Speaker 2: That is the now we've gone through I'm getting an

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Speaker 2: extra drink from subway on the way out, on the

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Speaker 2: way out the door, you guys, see that is stealing. Yes,

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Speaker 2: taking extra little Sawyer sauces and with sabi's from sushi Hub.

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Speaker 2: You right to go, mate, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Green light?

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Speaker 2: What about the pad and pen in the hotel room?

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Speaker 1: Green light?

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Speaker 2: Green light Robe, red light, Mason in Oakhurst? What do

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Speaker 2: you think stealing?

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Speaker 7: Good morning guys. When you pay for fuel, I say,

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Speaker 7: it comes to one hundred dollars and two cents. If

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Speaker 7: you pay by cash, it goes.

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Speaker 5: Down to one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 7: But if it's one hundred dollars and three cents, you

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Speaker 7: pay by cards, so it doesn't round up to the

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Speaker 7: five cent.

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Speaker 1: We call that thrifty.

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Speaker 2: And with credit card as well, are you paying a

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Speaker 2: little tiny charge? Yeah, there is a sur charge as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love that I don't have to carry

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Speaker 2: cash around anymore, but I would love to find out

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Speaker 2: a figure at the end of the year that the

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Speaker 2: surcharges you are paying just on your credit.

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Speaker 1: Now amazing though, that at the servo these days, if

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Speaker 1: I feel like my card is like two hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: that they'll say, hey, grab two of the chocolates for free.

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Speaker 1: Well not they're not for free, they're belt in with

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Speaker 1: the promotion. But you get them for free. You don't

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Speaker 1: pay any more on top, No nothing.

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Speaker 2: You've got to pay for one bar and then you

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Speaker 2: got free no nothing.

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Speaker 3: Are you using a supermarket cart?

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Speaker 1: No, just on the amex well, not even a membership

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Speaker 1: to the to the service station chocolate bars. I took

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Speaker 1: two cherry rips home, Yeah, and one cherry ripe is

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Speaker 1: in two pieces, so technically I had four separate bars

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Speaker 1: of cherry ripe and the bowl in the fridge.

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Speaker 3: Do you know if they're separate, that's a king size whip.

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Speaker 1: So you had four cherry Lisa from Blacktown?

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Speaker 2: What do you and your family still? Lisa?

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Speaker 8: A couple of us at morning guys, A couple of

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Speaker 8: us aren't go camping twice a year, and we're all

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Speaker 8: on the hunt for the condiments that you can get

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Speaker 8: at McDonald's, the little things of jam, honey, did you

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Speaker 8: might peanut butter?

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Speaker 5: Right, all of it.

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Speaker 8: So we don't ever have to take a camp and

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Speaker 8: we take the little.

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Speaker 1: Sashet because they're all sort of what I consider sample size.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's fine because there is promotional tools

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Speaker 1: for the business and the product the for you to have.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they have the whipped cream butter for that.

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Speaker 5: I don't travel.

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Speaker 8: They don't travel too.

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Speaker 5: Well with.

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Speaker 2: That is that is a great idea. If you're doing camping, regulate,

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Speaker 2: that's a good idea. Matt and northn Parramatta. What do

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Speaker 2: you think stealing? Matt?

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Speaker 7: Oh, well, I'm not sure if it's stealing or not.

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Speaker 7: But this is my example. You know, when that's the

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Speaker 7: kind of going back for multiple samples. I might grab one,

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Speaker 1: That's right. I mean it's all for promotional purposes. It's

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Speaker 2: Do they still people at shopping centers now that are

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Speaker 1: Is it a COVID killer?

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Speaker 3: Because I saw the other day in the supermarket the

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Speaker 3: you know they cook the sausage for you and you get.

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Speaker 1: To try ye little baby cue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you real yes at the front, and

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Speaker 3: then they let you with the you've got to and.

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Speaker 2: Then let the kids have a try. Butchers the awkward

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Speaker 2: Considered that the next time awkward walk off and then you.

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Speaker 1: Walk off not I mean during the pandemic when supermarkets

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Speaker 1: were low on stock, would it be considered stealing? We've

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Speaker 1: got Tom who's called through in the studio. Tom, is

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Speaker 1: it considered stealing when you take the toilet paper home

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Speaker 1: from Nova?

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Speaker 2: I only did that once?

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Speaker 1: Is that really? Thanks for calling through? You're not in

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Speaker 1: the running for first class and fifty K.

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Speaker 2: I think it was in the middle of the pandemic

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Speaker 1: There was one place that did have it over entertainment,

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Speaker 1: the supermarket known as Nova David in bell Rose.

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Speaker 2: What are you unsure? Might be still?

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Speaker 5: What I normally do is I wait on the last

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Speaker 1: Dad, I'm calling a bit of as on that. Why

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Speaker 5: Well, So I actually just did that on a flight

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Speaker 1: What alask? What airline?

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Speaker 5: Quantus?

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Speaker 1: And so when you're sitting in that seat and they

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Speaker 1: And you are you prepared to say, oh, I thought

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Speaker 1: this was my seat. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the hostess did ask me that and I said,

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Speaker 2: Yes that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dangerous duff. Really good played, sir. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what this because it's going to be people hanging back

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Speaker 2: On James in Bankstown. What do you think stealing, James?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, it's actually a bit of a sticking point

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Speaker 6: they're the ones where they give it to you for

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Speaker 1: Afs everywhere, you know, they chip up of them now

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Speaker 1: James cleaning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well we had Sarah ranging another Sarah Rangin

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Speaker 2: who went to Vasaci up in the gold Coach and

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Speaker 2: got a life band from the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they tracked it down because I had a chip

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Speaker 6: Just on the old self stuff checkout mate, when times

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Speaker 6: are tough, and definitely going into Father's Day this weekend

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Speaker 6: time has certainly everything's an unworshed potato, mate, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean. James has got a point. James

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Speaker 1: has got a point. It is I mean, when I

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Speaker 1: proposed to Lisa, I went in. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys think this is stealing. I went into the

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Speaker 1: top and stole the ring. Is that stealing?

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Speaker 3: But what you actually paid for the ring was probably I.

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Speaker 1: Know I was robbed on that occasion.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast.