WEBVTT - 👄 CHICK CHAT | A Married Man Keeps Sliding Into Abbey's DMs

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<v Speaker 1>Go get morning every Dayay, every lady, gentlemen, Adelaides, goody friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to some of the best bits of Jodey and

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<v Speaker 1>Hazy from across And I'll tell you this much for free.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all aged terribly. Yeah the last ten months.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what happens when you get up for a

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<v Speaker 3>year at four am. You look seventy Oh my gosh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>those crows feet.

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<v Speaker 2>A few more grays coming through.

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<v Speaker 4>Gross feet.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you ma forgot? Grows feet's around your eyes?

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<v Speaker 3>Smile line ses. It means you've smiled in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just like that. You'll just go on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bugger it. I'm just gonna let myself go.

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<v Speaker 3>My really shot. It is so time for it. Let's go, girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Symbol do like.

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<v Speaker 5>A little page. All the ladies to Studio one please

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<v Speaker 5>or ladies. Okay, this is how this works. We have

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<v Speaker 5>all the girls assembled here and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about stuff that we've maybe spoken about off air that

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<v Speaker 5>probably deserves an on air conversation. So we've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Producer Zoe here. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Zoey's in her twenties, in a new relationship, relatively happy

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<v Speaker 5>but ALWAYO a bit of a career girl as well,

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely smashing goals at work. And we've got newsreader Abby

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<v Speaker 5>RBF face.

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<v Speaker 3>In the thirties, happily single.

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<v Speaker 5>However, something has happened to you this week that probably

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<v Speaker 5>needs to hit the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Waves, I reckon.

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<v Speaker 6>So this has been happening to me since twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>A guy over in I think he lives it. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>I've done some digging. I'm going to be transparent. I

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<v Speaker 6>did a bit of digging and he lives in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 6>He has been messaging me on Facebook Messenger since twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>random messages every three, six eight months. One time it

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<v Speaker 6>went a year until I I'd heard from him, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's just like, hey, hey, hey, you going, Hey, how

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<v Speaker 6>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>And it got to the point where I eventually just went, oh, hi, sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>do I know you? And he goes, oh, your dog's

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<v Speaker 6>really cute, and I didn't reply, and then it just

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<v Speaker 6>continuously kept going and it got to them the point

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<v Speaker 6>that he said, you can reply, I'm not weird or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, now you're sounding weirdd He definitely weird. But

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<v Speaker 3>in this time as well, I did a bit of digging.

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<v Speaker 6>As I said, he met a woman, he got engaged,

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<v Speaker 6>he's married. This guy's married, right, and I've spoken.

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<v Speaker 3>To other people.

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<v Speaker 6>Just before I walked in here, Maddie Rowe stopped me

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<v Speaker 6>and said, I've been getting messages on Instagram from a

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<v Speaker 6>guy since twenty eighteen, just like random videos that he

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<v Speaker 6>sends me. Number one, it makes me feel I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>it really pisses me off because as a woman, we

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<v Speaker 6>feel not safe a lot of the time. So when

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<v Speaker 6>you're walking out in the street, you get your keys out,

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<v Speaker 6>all that sort of stuff. And I've got a social

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<v Speaker 6>media account, and I understand that, yes, I'm on social

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<v Speaker 6>I get that, and I've also in a position where

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<v Speaker 6>I am have a bit of a public profile.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that.

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<v Speaker 6>People just continuously think it's okay after not getting a

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<v Speaker 6>reply to message you is just wrong. So number one

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<v Speaker 6>actually gets me, like, I get a bit teary over

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<v Speaker 6>this because I just feel like it's just not okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Also, do you know what people are going to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Just block it? Oh, well, that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that's my thing is I've turned notifications off

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<v Speaker 6>on my phone, so all randomly, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>I've got six messages and I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm so I don't know this is an excuse,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm so busy and I forget to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>So yes, number one, I should just block in, but

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<v Speaker 6>I guess I want to know un wanted attention and

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<v Speaker 6>how to deal with it. Has anyone out there had

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<v Speaker 6>the same thing? How does it make you feel? And

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<v Speaker 6>also who's behind it? Like have you had a friend's

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<v Speaker 6>boyfriend messaging you? Or have you had your boss messaging

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<v Speaker 6>you stuff? And what have you done about it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but's azoi we ever had it?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm lucky. Not so much when I was a

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<v Speaker 9>bit younger, maybe like in high school and things like that.

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<v Speaker 9>Boys just not getting the message. I did see someone

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<v Speaker 9>for a bit and after telling them I wasn't interested,

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<v Speaker 9>would still rock up to my house with coffees and

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<v Speaker 9>stuff trying to win me over them. Yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 9>like different he was. He was just really trying, like

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<v Speaker 9>he wasn't giving off creep.

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<v Speaker 3>Even still he still needs to have brown Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just rock up to someone's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Something I told you enough?

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<v Speaker 5>Give me?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you deal with this much?

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<v Speaker 6>Jokes?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>I've had it well, even since being married.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I've had it a bit, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>I think it comes with the territory. Do I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>say that it shouldn't come with the territory, but I

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<v Speaker 5>guess doing this job, Oh, I have messages from the

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<v Speaker 5>same men constantly that I never reply to, and the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never felt.

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<v Speaker 5>Threatened enough to block them, you know it. And also

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<v Speaker 5>I think is why do we feel bad for blocking

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<v Speaker 5>someone even when it's not our fault. Why do you

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<v Speaker 5>feel like you're in the wrong because you got that's enough.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's the same premise of I'll give us a smile,

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<v Speaker 9>was like we're supposed to be yeah, big smiling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had. I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I went through a stage there where someone had my

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<v Speaker 5>phone number and every time they would call, it would

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<v Speaker 5>be a FaceTime as a certain part of their genitally

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<v Speaker 5>to the point where I went to the police and said,

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on here? That was extreme and they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing we can do. I'm like, you can't track

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<v Speaker 5>this the guy down and say stop stop doing calling

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<v Speaker 5>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Leah. Good morning, Leah, good morning, how

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<v Speaker 3>are you good? Good? I'm so sorry if this has

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<v Speaker 3>happened to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So about five years ago, there was a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who was messaging me. I was only about seventeen, so

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<v Speaker 4>at the time I thought he was being nice, so

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<v Speaker 4>I gave him my address. He came over one time.

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<v Speaker 4>He was really really creepy, and then I told him

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to see him again. And he would

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<v Speaker 4>always message me. I wouldn't reply, and then he would

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<v Speaker 4>just drop off, like food stopping at my door because

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<v Speaker 4>he told me that I didn't eat well, so he

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<v Speaker 4>would just drop food at my door even though I

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't replied. I hadn't replied four weeks and he would

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<v Speaker 4>just always drop food to my door. Also my side,

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<v Speaker 4>my bedroom window didn't lock, but he would put flowers

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<v Speaker 4>and things. He opened my window and just like throw

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<v Speaker 4>them in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had not responded to him. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>found out that he had a wife and a son

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<v Speaker 4>for context as well, where he was about thirty seven

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<v Speaker 4>and I was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you know he was thirty seven? Sorry when he

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<v Speaker 6>was messaging you at the start?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, And so how.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you How did it all end up? Leah?

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<v Speaker 4>So I told his wife. His wife left him and

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<v Speaker 4>divorced him. And then the weird so I was getting

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<v Speaker 4>really creepy messages from him, like he would write poems

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<v Speaker 4>about me, he would make memes about me, like lovely things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really really strange. And then when I told

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<v Speaker 4>his wife, he turned into just straight abuse. He said

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<v Speaker 4>it was my fault that they divorced, it was my

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<v Speaker 4>fault that he'd left it that she left him. And

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<v Speaker 4>that went on for a couple of months as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I blocked him. He would still make little accounts just

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<v Speaker 4>to message me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what I was about five.

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<v Speaker 4>Years ago now, and I think he's probably a lonely

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<v Speaker 4>man now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's definitely not your fault.

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<v Speaker 6>It's his fault for doing the wrong thing and chasing

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<v Speaker 6>someone twenty years younger than him, a teenager.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was, Actually I was still a minor at

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<v Speaker 4>that point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, bar rout Ley, thank you so much for your

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<v Speaker 5>call this morning. Let's go to Ali.

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<v Speaker 3>Ali.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll jump in here and say you were one of

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<v Speaker 5>the victims of this guy out of Elizabeth. Let's not

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<v Speaker 5>mention his names because I'm not sure if it's still

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<v Speaker 5>before the court, but this happened to you with him.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, actually I was he mentioned me over the past

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<v Speaker 11>or five years. I never responded to any of them,

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<v Speaker 11>but yeah, he just kept going. He found there a

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<v Speaker 11>dating side about five or six years ago and then

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<v Speaker 11>searched my Facebook for me and just kept nextaging me constantly.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a guy recently who I matched with him

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<v Speaker 6>and then I sort of looked his profile went oh,

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<v Speaker 6>probably not for me. I unmatched him, and he found

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<v Speaker 6>me on Facebook and said why do you want to

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<v Speaker 6>match me?

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<v Speaker 5>Four?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wanted to talk to you. So, Ali, have

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<v Speaker 3>you heard from him recently? Has it all stopped?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 11>Not since the whole court case thing, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 5>And was it a case where you saw him on

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<v Speaker 5>the news and went, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>My sister in law actually tagged me and she was like,

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<v Speaker 11>oh my god, is this the guy that has been

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<v Speaker 11>messaging you? And I was like, yes, that's hum.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we well, thank you so much for your call.

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<v Speaker 3>To Neil. Oh gosh, these calls never end. They to Neil.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 10>I used to work in a store as a cashier

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<v Speaker 10>and I had a customer come through and I made

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<v Speaker 10>small talk, was really friendly as you are with customers,

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<v Speaker 10>and then he started coming back frequently and never purchasing things.

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<v Speaker 10>And on Valentine's Day he brought me flowers and he'd

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<v Speaker 10>bring me cups of coffee and stuff like that, always

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<v Speaker 10>just sort of checking in on me.

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 11>It was really weird.

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<v Speaker 10>And then one day I went to work, had lunch break,

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<v Speaker 10>came back and he was like he was there and

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<v Speaker 10>he said, oh, you've just been at home having some lunch,

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<v Speaker 10>sitting out in the suns. Basically, yeah, it was very

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<v Speaker 10>very storckery.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was well, and how's how's it all ended up?

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<v Speaker 2>Neil?

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<v Speaker 10>So he kind of we'll just keep coming in, and

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<v Speaker 10>you know, me being it was a big power dynamic.

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<v Speaker 10>I guess he's the custom to me having to be

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<v Speaker 10>kind to him. So I basically just said, look, I've

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<v Speaker 10>got a partner, and I did. My partner worked in

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<v Speaker 10>the store as well, and I said, my boyfriend's just

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<v Speaker 10>over there like, yeah, you know, we probably don't appreciate

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<v Speaker 10>you coming in anymore. And I just thought I had

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<v Speaker 10>to leave it at that without offending him too much.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's the thing we women do.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't want to offend me, I know, even though

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<v Speaker 5>you've been mortified and offended to Neil, you did absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>the right thing and you didn't do anything wrong, and

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<v Speaker 5>I would say that to all the women out there

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<v Speaker 5>who were feeling that way. Thank you for sharing your

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<v Speaker 5>stories this morning. I think we should give everyone an

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<v Speaker 5>Earth Clay voucher. Yeah, that we've spoken to You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the last thing I want to say is

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<v Speaker 6>that if you're and look, I get that it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's men and women, but especially men.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're out there and you're messaging someone repeatedly on

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<v Speaker 6>social media, or they've told you that they're not interested,

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<v Speaker 6>please stop because you don't understand how it makes us feel.

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<v Speaker 6>It's unsafe and they're obviously not interested. To just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really now is so much gain involved conversation. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very very brave story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, absolutely, my really picture it is so time

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<v Speaker 5>for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go girl, Okay, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have producer Zoe in your twenties in a

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<v Speaker 5>lovely relationship with Hazy's boyfriend. That's right. Yeah, We've got

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<v Speaker 5>a newsreader Abby who is in her.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirties, happily single, aggressively single, aggressively single and loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>After my dating disaster this week. Yes, we might talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that at some point. We probably have to.

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<v Speaker 5>Talk about that, because that is definitely noteworthy what you've

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<v Speaker 5>been through in the last week. However, today we're talking

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<v Speaker 5>about friendships. Female friendships. They're interesting, aren't they? And I

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<v Speaker 5>would very much argue that female friendships can be more

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<v Speaker 5>intense and more complicated than actual relationships in your life sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're talking deal this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>What is it about a female friend in particular that

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<v Speaker 5>would make you go, that's enough, I'm done here, I

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<v Speaker 5>no longer want to be friends with you?

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<v Speaker 7>Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>A deal breaker, though.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you still go back for a second day.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right?

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<v Speaker 7>For me?

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<v Speaker 5>A friendship deal breaker is when you and I felt this,

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<v Speaker 5>when you walk out of a room and you're not

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<v Speaker 5>quite sure what that person's going to say about you

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<v Speaker 5>behind your back. If that, like, I'm right or die?

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<v Speaker 5>I am an aggressively loyal person. If I've got you back,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got it hard for life. But if I get

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<v Speaker 5>the feeling with a female friend that I don't quite

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<v Speaker 5>know what they're going to talk about when I'm not there.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, do you wait? That is it? Straight up?

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<v Speaker 9>As soon as you've got the feeling that's it done?

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<v Speaker 9>Or do you wait to confirm this said?

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<v Speaker 3>Not too much the feeling. I think it's more when

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<v Speaker 3>it actually happens. The confor what about for you?

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<v Speaker 9>I've had this conversation with my girlfriends a lot. Actually

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<v Speaker 9>I've got there's three of us. We're best friends, Tallulacation

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<v Speaker 9>and I and.

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<v Speaker 3>We that's not what tullus.

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<v Speaker 5>We should hear the conversations I've had.

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<v Speaker 9>And we've talked about it because we've been so close

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<v Speaker 9>to so long. What is the only thing that could

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<v Speaker 9>get in the way of our friendship? We've decided is

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<v Speaker 9>looking up with audating one of each other's exes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's the only thing, because it just feels

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<v Speaker 9>like the ultimate betrayal, right right, when your feelings are

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<v Speaker 9>that involved?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I play Devil's advocate here an extra reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I say, like, just a little bit down the track,

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<v Speaker 5>there are some things that arise arise in friendships that

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<v Speaker 5>you don't foresee and can also be deal breakers. So

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<v Speaker 5>you might think, I think, at your age, in your

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<v Speaker 5>twenty seo, oh my god, we're going to be friends

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<v Speaker 5>for long y.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm not ignorant to the fact that things will change.

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<v Speaker 9>But right now, like we've arguments whatever, the only thing

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<v Speaker 9>right now that could tear us apart is if one

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<v Speaker 9>of the girls dated my ex or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, there's a few things to that.

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<v Speaker 6>I could play double other kids there too, anyway for me,

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<v Speaker 6>lying and big lies. I cannot stand people who are

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<v Speaker 6>feeding you one story but not taking you know, in

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<v Speaker 6>any situation. And I talk about this a lot, like

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<v Speaker 6>with ex boyfriends and stuff. Now as I get older,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I take four responsibility for my part in that story.

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<v Speaker 6>But for people who lie and constantly lie and then

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<v Speaker 6>you find out that what they're telling you is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not actually actually the truth, I can't stand that there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is something like that, someone who can't put their hand

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<v Speaker 5>up and go, oh you know, I messed up?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah yeah, wow, Okay, so much different for bikes, What

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<v Speaker 12>do you mean, well, in terms of just how complicated

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<v Speaker 12>female relationships and friendships can be, like for blokes.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, a couple of days ago, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>text from one bloke in particular, I haven't spoken to

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<v Speaker 2>I Reckon for about five or six years. Three way text,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, boys, I hope this is the right numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>but should we catch up for a beer and we're like, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>let's lock.

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<v Speaker 7>Up a time.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were actually just not for five or six

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<v Speaker 2>years and then go bang and pick it up.

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<v Speaker 5>You weren't annoyed that you hadn't heard from him in

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<v Speaker 5>all that time, not to say congratulations, hazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You've had seventeen kids like.

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<v Speaker 2>He had kids as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so just slave going in different directions, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to immediately pick it up.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got friends like that though, that you don't speak

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<v Speaker 6>for a few months or whatever, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 6>text or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, They're the best sort of friendships, the ones that

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<v Speaker 5>are unconditional. It's like, okay, I get life scotten in

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<v Speaker 5>the way I haven't heard from you, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine. When I see you, I'm going to pick

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<v Speaker 3>up where I left off.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Chelsey, good morning. What's the friendship deal breaker? Hi?

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<v Speaker 7>So I had this friend and when we were younger,

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<v Speaker 7>we used to meet up in the most honest places.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the one place that she's organized to meet

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<v Speaker 7>up was the top of like a five story krper

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<v Speaker 7>and a few nights before she'd asked me whether we

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<v Speaker 7>could meet up there at like the middle of night.

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<v Speaker 7>It was by eight o'clock, and I said, sure that

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<v Speaker 7>I was on the way home from work, and when

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<v Speaker 7>I left, I rang her if she was on her way,

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<v Speaker 7>because I wasn't not far away. She said, I'm five

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<v Speaker 7>minutes away. So I rocked up and I rang her

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<v Speaker 7>again and she said that she was on her way again,

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<v Speaker 7>and then she didn't turn up for an hour and

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<v Speaker 7>left me in the dark at the top of a

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<v Speaker 7>random car park. So I went home and then when

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<v Speaker 7>I literally the minute I had gotten home, she rang

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<v Speaker 7>me and she was like, where are you and started

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<v Speaker 7>for abusing me because I'd left and left her at

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<v Speaker 7>the top of the car park. And I said, if

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<v Speaker 7>you're not going to turn up at the right time,

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<v Speaker 7>then don't meet me. It's that simple. And she's done

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<v Speaker 7>that a few times, said she'd be there, and then

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't okay, And then Sherry on Tops.

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<v Speaker 4>Was later that night.

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<v Speaker 8>I was obviously asleep because she messaged me at four

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<v Speaker 8>am in the morning. She'd had a bit of an

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<v Speaker 8>accident with her boyfriend and she went on about me

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<v Speaker 8>going out to get her planned bah and I said,

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<v Speaker 8>no way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, So first red Flag was meeting in top

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<v Speaker 6>car push.

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<v Speaker 3>Last story was.

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<v Speaker 2>Your friend Drake?

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<v Speaker 13>We shared video right.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, was there a helipad? Good morning, Luke?

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<v Speaker 13>Are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the friendship deal breaker?

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<v Speaker 13>So me and the partner were having a bit of

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<v Speaker 13>a tough time, so I reached out to a childhood

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<v Speaker 13>friend who's been there for many years. Yes, he then

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<v Speaker 13>decided to say, oh, you have no problems. We've got

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<v Speaker 13>I've got no plans this week and I'm just going

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<v Speaker 13>to be at home if you need anything. I went, yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>no problems literally, you know. I was still talking to

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<v Speaker 13>my partner at that time and found out he invited

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<v Speaker 13>her around here for a bit of a get together,

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<v Speaker 13>a bit of an adult party birthday. Then to find

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<v Speaker 13>out I think it was about two days later from

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<v Speaker 13>one of his friends we both socialized, is saying that

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<v Speaker 13>he had a female friend coming around that was going

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<v Speaker 13>through a breakup and it was going to be an easy.

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<v Speaker 2>What a sleazy, dirty bags, dirty birds deservation.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah right, See that's kind of the same vibes as

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<v Speaker 9>hooking up with the.

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<v Speaker 6>Next Yeah, eggs, they were just going through a rough

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<v Speaker 6>pat that's horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's there's a lesson in that too, to never

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<v Speaker 5>bag someone who's going through a breakup. Never bag the

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<v Speaker 5>partner because if they do get yeah yeah, awkward, Shannon

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<v Speaker 5>friendship deal breaker for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, So I had a birthday drinks and celebration and

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<v Speaker 4>it was like an engagement celebration as well, because I'd

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<v Speaker 4>recently got engaged, and it was so like my fiancee

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<v Speaker 4>to me, all all of my friends and family in

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<v Speaker 4>like a group's.

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<v Speaker 13>Social setting yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of my really good friends was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really sorry, I can't come. I can't get a babysitter.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh, that's okay, like totally understand,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but we'll organize something else, which was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really sorry, but yep. Anyways, later in the night,

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<v Speaker 4>I go on Snap and she is at the showdown

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<v Speaker 4>with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to laugh, we get it.

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<v Speaker 5>To your friends, I'm so sorry I can't come to

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<v Speaker 5>your engagement party. Go how.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we take abby? Good morning?

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<v Speaker 14>Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>Mine? Is that my best friend told me to essentially

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<v Speaker 4>break up with my partner?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, and what was your.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm all for like being there for your friend

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, talking them through the option. You can not.

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<v Speaker 4>You do not have the ride to say your partners's

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<v Speaker 4>good enough for you break up, and ever since then

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<v Speaker 4>they've just never been the same friends.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, what's so tough about that? I would really

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<v Speaker 9>hope that if my girlfriends didn't like Alex, then tell me.

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<v Speaker 9>But then if it actually happened, how do you deal with?

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<v Speaker 3>What about if one of your friends likes Alex too much?

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<v Speaker 2>What about if I told you to break up with.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a tough one old friend boyfriend thing. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think the key takeaway in all of this is we

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<v Speaker 3>all love Alex. My really chat chat. It is so

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<v Speaker 3>time for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go girl, yeah the girls, Yeah, excuse me, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just going to kick a door down.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so time for a chick chat and this is

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<v Speaker 5>where us girls get together.

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<v Speaker 3>Hazy, you can vaguely be involved.

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<v Speaker 5>Zoe, you're in your twenties in a newish relationship with

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<v Speaker 5>a much younger man. Abby you're in your thirties, very

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<v Speaker 5>much single, but slaying life. I'd have to say, laughing,

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<v Speaker 5>yeah you are. I think there was a pringle though,

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<v Speaker 5>you slay girl. So this week's chick chat will revolve

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<v Speaker 5>around age gaps.

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<v Speaker 9>And then we were just saying I cop a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of flak from all of you for dating it much

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<v Speaker 9>younger man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's two years.

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<v Speaker 12>Younger than mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's criminal.

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<v Speaker 9>I know that it's pretty jarring when I say out

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<v Speaker 9>loud that he's born in the year two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's outrageous?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a long time with Alex on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and I was born in nineteen eighty five, But somehow

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like we're almost the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, it was outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>You really goes sort of scary connection.

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<v Speaker 9>But despite how much fun you'll make of me, it

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<v Speaker 9>got us talking of about real age gap relationships and

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<v Speaker 9>if we've ever been in them, what we think of them,

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<v Speaker 9>and abs that came up that you have been in

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<v Speaker 9>quite a big age gap relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was pretty big.

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<v Speaker 6>So there was eighteen years between myself and this gentleman,

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<v Speaker 6>my boss's best friend at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was twenty two, he was forty. So I

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<v Speaker 3>look back.

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<v Speaker 6>Now and just, yeah, way too big. I was way

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<v Speaker 6>too young. Maybe now it might be different, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I was way too young to be with someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Hitty treat you well.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, I put my hand up though, as I

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<v Speaker 6>get older and go, I caused a lot of dramas.

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<v Speaker 6>But also, you know, him being older, you would have

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<v Speaker 6>thought that he would have, you know, taught me how

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<v Speaker 6>to be in an adult relationship, and that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, what you do abbe and that he is for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, probably blame yourself when you're eighteen, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course there's a lot going on for anyone who's eighteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I just look at twenty two, you're just

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<v Speaker 6>such a baby. I was working in hospitality. I was

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<v Speaker 6>a terror of a person living my best life and

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<v Speaker 6>he copped a lot of it. But also he did

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<v Speaker 6>some pretty shady things as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I ask you this, having lived through that experience,

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<v Speaker 5>do you think that an age gap, nearly twenty year

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<v Speaker 5>age gap can work.

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<v Speaker 6>I've actually got friends who there's twenty years between them

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<v Speaker 6>and they're now together. They've got twins living their best

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<v Speaker 6>life up on the Gold Coast. So I do believe

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<v Speaker 6>that it can work. But interestingly, we went I did

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<v Speaker 6>some volunteering last week and I met a lovely lady.

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<v Speaker 6>She's eighty three, her husband's ninety four. And I made

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<v Speaker 6>a comment, I said, oh, a bit controversial. You know

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<v Speaker 6>how long you've been together, and they've been together for

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<v Speaker 6>like sixty five years or something, and she said, there's

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<v Speaker 6>been no issue with the age gap until now because

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<v Speaker 6>she's eighty three, she's volunteering still, she wants to go

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<v Speaker 6>and have fun with the gals. And her husband's ninety four.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going through some health issues and she you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he can't drive, so she's doing all of that for him.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's funny, isn't it, Because you think you think

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<v Speaker 5>the age gap becomes less and less relevant the older

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<v Speaker 5>you get. But I have never thought about that that

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<v Speaker 5>when you get to that age. Yeah, one's mobile, the

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<v Speaker 5>other one isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That yet because physically she was at a harvest rock

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekend on his shoulders, but he's got some issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that she was on your shoulders at one point.

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<v Speaker 6>It wouldn't surprise, but yeah, I'm looking back now not okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But also, you know, you go through what you go

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<v Speaker 3>through for a reason, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I will say I think I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a double standard with this, Like

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<v Speaker 5>so if an older bloke gets with a younger woman,

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<v Speaker 5>then it's like all the mates, like, whereas if an older, say,

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<v Speaker 5>cougar gets together with a younger man and it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a little bit frowned upon it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure how well representing the male species.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how well supported is if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>out with someone who's vastly younger. For I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we're all sent around.

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<v Speaker 5>Going yeah, okay, don't even make that noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, made to forty and they're going out with twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two year olds. Don't think we're all getting together.

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<v Speaker 3>My head is that Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my boss said to him, you leave her alone

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<v Speaker 6>and do not go near her, and he obviously didn't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't resist, you, abs.

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<v Speaker 9>It can work, these relationships, So yeah, I mean dependent.

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<v Speaker 9>I think every situation is different, but it'd be nice

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<v Speaker 9>to hear yes it would.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go to Lisa, good morning, Good morning. What's the gap, Lise?

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<v Speaker 14>So we're eleven years apart. So I'm forty and he's fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>One, right, okay, and does it work?

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<v Speaker 4>It does?

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<v Speaker 14>We've been together. I first met him when I was

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<v Speaker 14>twenty nine, so yeah, we've both been married before, had

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<v Speaker 14>children with other partners, and now we've got a beautiful

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<v Speaker 14>little two year old daughter of our own.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is a blended family, now, is it.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a blended family. So his son lives with us,

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<v Speaker 14>my daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>Lives with us.

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<v Speaker 14>They're both fifteen. Yeah, and then our little two year

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<v Speaker 14>old Daisy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Lisa, you happy?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so so happy. So like I'm a vet nurse now,

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<v Speaker 14>I feel like my career is he supported me in

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<v Speaker 14>doing everything that I've wanted to do. I haven't found

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<v Speaker 14>the age gap a problem at all because in fact,

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<v Speaker 14>his maturity, it probably yeah, has helped me along the way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I guess there is a bit to be said

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<v Speaker 5>by the fact that they do say that men mature

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<v Speaker 5>a little slower than women.

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<v Speaker 14>So I think we're definitely have met in the middle

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<v Speaker 14>there because I feel like I'm obviously very mature and

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<v Speaker 14>he's quite immature.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Isn't that incredible? Lisa? My wife is younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean mentally, she's so much older. She is

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<v Speaker 2>so much older.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, thanks so much, Lisa, thanks for you called