WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 26 May

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Late Debase.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with kayleb Bond and welcoming our new

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<v Speaker 3>Late Debate team member, Freyer Leech.

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<v Speaker 1>Freyer, great to have you part of the team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so wonderful to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm looking forward to tonight because I suspect on

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<v Speaker 3>the very first topic we're going to have an argument

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<v Speaker 3>straight off the back, so be prepared for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Freyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up tonight, some very strange footage from Vietnam of

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<v Speaker 3>the French President Emmanuel mccron who's caught on camera seemingly

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<v Speaker 3>in an.

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<v Speaker 1>Altercation with his wife or was it a play fight?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll let you decide. Plus, when we look at the papers,

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<v Speaker 3>home ownership reach. Home ownership affordability reaches an historic low.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not all bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>One state opposition is promising to scrap sales tax for

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<v Speaker 3>a stamp duty rather for first home buyers.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get to that shortly. But here's a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Should prisoners be allowed to smoke cigarettes in jail? They

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<v Speaker 3>were up until twenty fifteen when it was banned and

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<v Speaker 3>instead prisoners were supplied with nicotine patches, But then they

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<v Speaker 3>started using nicotine patches combined with pages from the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>to make their own cigarettes, and so they were banned.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we've got a situation where liquid nicotine that's

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<v Speaker 3>used to make e cigarettes is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>smuggled items in prisons around Australia. Victorian authorities have seized

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred and fifty liters of nicotine oil in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine months to March.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is one of those issues where every

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<v Speaker 3>solution just creates another problem, and so I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say this Freyer and Caleb I reckon

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<v Speaker 3>allow prisoners to smoke cigarettes and solve a raft of problem.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see why they shouldn't be able to smoke

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<v Speaker 5>when everyone else is allowed to smoke. And you might say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know you're in prison, you should be deprived of

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<v Speaker 5>your rights. But let's be honest, prisoners are pretty prickly

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<v Speaker 5>characters at the best of times, right, and so something

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<v Speaker 5>to calm them down a little bit is probably not

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<v Speaker 5>a bad thing. And it's probably also not a bad

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<v Speaker 5>thing if they smoke themselves into an earlier grave. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're in prison and you want to say, yep,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm willing to give up ten years of my life

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<v Speaker 5>so that the taxpayer doesn't have to spend one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars a year to feed me and put a

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<v Speaker 5>roof of made. At least that's what it used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it was one hundred and grand a year

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<v Speaker 5>ten years ago. So I hate to think of what

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<v Speaker 5>they're spending every year now to keep someone in prison.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to smoke yourself into an early grave, go

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<v Speaker 5>for your life, couldn't give a stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally disagree.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we should be trying to make prison as

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<v Speaker 6>unbearable as possible. There are very few rights for prisoners,

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<v Speaker 6>and smoking certainly is not one of them. And then

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<v Speaker 6>you consider the cost to taxpayers when these people are

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<v Speaker 6>out of prison, or even while they're still in prison,

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<v Speaker 6>cancer treatments, all the medical issues associated with smoking. I

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<v Speaker 6>am sure that the cost of treating them, whether they're

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<v Speaker 6>prisoners or back in the public system, will far outweigh

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<v Speaker 6>any potential tax is we collect from cigarettes. And therefore,

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<v Speaker 6>why are we just allowing people to continue there essentially

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<v Speaker 6>their drug addiction and facilitating it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it does, and on the tax point, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>So in this financial year, we'll pull in seven point

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<v Speaker 5>four billion dollars in exercise, which is well down on

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<v Speaker 5>what it used to be. By the way, it peaking

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<v Speaker 5>at about fourteen billion. But of course the federal government

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<v Speaker 5>buggered it all up with the illicit tobacco market and

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<v Speaker 5>they're now losing all the tax.

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<v Speaker 2>But the latest numbers we have from the National.

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<v Speaker 5>Drug Research Institute is that at six point eight billion

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<v Speaker 5>dollars a year in healthcare. So the government actually turns

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<v Speaker 5>a profit on smokers, which is why, as I've said before,

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<v Speaker 5>they are the true lifters of this country. Smokers and

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<v Speaker 5>drinkers are the true lifters of this country because they

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<v Speaker 5>spend money they give tax voluntarily to the government that

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<v Speaker 5>other people don't. So it's actually a net profit maker

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<v Speaker 5>for the federal government. So you can't argue it on

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<v Speaker 5>that point.

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<v Speaker 3>My problem with the ban is it's not achieving what

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<v Speaker 3>it was set out to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The bans ostensibly to improve the health.

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<v Speaker 3>Of prisoners, except studies have shown that what is at

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<v Speaker 3>sixty three percent of prisoniness. This is from the Medical

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<v Speaker 3>Journal of Australia. Sixty three percent of prisoners upon release

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<v Speaker 3>from jail smoke a cigarette the day they get out

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<v Speaker 3>of prison, so they're not quitting even though the ban

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<v Speaker 3>is in place. They're just finding other ways to smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>Hence we've now got this illegal trade within prisons. Have

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<v Speaker 3>look at this footage, amazing footage from park Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison here in Sydney. See that bin.

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<v Speaker 3>It was left in the middle of the courtyard and

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<v Speaker 3>if you can watch there on the screen carefully, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>play it again. There's an item that falls from the

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<v Speaker 3>sky perfectly into the bin. It's been dropped from a

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<v Speaker 3>drone flown over the prison yard. It's dropping a vape

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<v Speaker 3>and tobacco into that bin. So, aside from being bad

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<v Speaker 3>using drones to deliver illegal goods into the prison, I

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<v Speaker 3>reckon find the operator of the drone and give him a.

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<v Speaker 1>Job of the ADM. He could save us at the

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<v Speaker 1>event of war with China.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we need him.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know the reports I'm getting here of people

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<v Speaker 5>having full blown fights in prison now over cigarettes because

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<v Speaker 5>if someone manages to smuggle some in like it is

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<v Speaker 5>genuine currency in prison now, because they have made it

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<v Speaker 5>a currency, just like they've done of course with you

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<v Speaker 5>listen tobacco, Margaret. While we're talking about crime and related matters,

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<v Speaker 5>as well, checking people off into jail. It's interesting. There's

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<v Speaker 5>two stories here. One, of course, in South Australia, the

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<v Speaker 5>former DPP has said that they should get rid of

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<v Speaker 5>the what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it, the parole board.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to go for bail because of course

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we've been talking about excessively.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course he wants to get rid of the parole board.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you'll lock people up for longer and that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Something tells me that won't quite work, because you say, okay, look,

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<v Speaker 5>here's a response to a.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem we're having at the moment with crime. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>rampant youth crime. So look, we'll get rid of the

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<v Speaker 2>parole board.

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<v Speaker 5>Therefore you won't have parole, so we'll lock them up

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<v Speaker 5>for longer and that'll fix the problem. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>people sort of need a way to transition from prison

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<v Speaker 5>to real life. Again, I think, and again, these knee

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<v Speaker 5>jerk reactions. We saw one yesterday from Jacinder Allen the

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<v Speaker 5>Mirror Victoria. There was terrible gang violence, as Paul was

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<v Speaker 5>talking about before, in Melbourne over the weekend, including of

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<v Speaker 5>course that attack at a Northland shopping center where you

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<v Speaker 5>had a young man wielding a machete. So Cintra Allen says,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got the answer to all of this. We'll just

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<v Speaker 5>ban machetes.

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<v Speaker 7>These knives are dangerous weapons. They have no place on

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<v Speaker 7>our streets anywhere, and that is why i will introduce

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<v Speaker 7>as many laws to get these dangerous knives off the streets.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is why I'm announcing today that, effective immediately, will

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<v Speaker 7>be bringing in place a ban on the sale of

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<v Speaker 7>machetes here in Victoria. And this ban will be in

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<v Speaker 7>place from midday on Wednesday under consumer powers. Using these powers,

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<v Speaker 7>Victoria will be banning machetes from being sold anywhere in

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<v Speaker 7>the state.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, machetes don't kill people. People wielding machetes kill people.

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<v Speaker 5>People wielding kitchen knives kill peaple. I mean, you still

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<v Speaker 5>might have seen Andrew Bolt earlier tonight pulled in an

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<v Speaker 5>array of things that he had.

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<v Speaker 2>In his garden shed.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, an axe and a hatchet and whatever that

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<v Speaker 5>you can go and kill someone with a ringe of

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<v Speaker 5>them with if you want to simply saying well, we've

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<v Speaker 5>fixed the problem now, no more machines in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not fix youth crime.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, this is all a distraction technique. By the

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<v Speaker 6>Allen government to distract from the fact that they have

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<v Speaker 6>failed to control the youth crime crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>Crime is at a fifteen year high.

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<v Speaker 6>But get this, although they're committing record numbers of offenses,

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<v Speaker 6>the number of offenders hasn't really changed. That's because this

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<v Speaker 6>is being driven by repeat violent offenders.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, what just since Alan won't tell.

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<v Speaker 6>You about the event over the weekend, was that three

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<v Speaker 6>of the four kids participating were actually out on bail.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is the problem until.

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<v Speaker 6>Much of this year, remand or keeping people in jail

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<v Speaker 6>until their trial. Fourk children were seen as a last

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<v Speaker 6>resort by courts.

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<v Speaker 4>That man, all these violent.

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<v Speaker 6>Kids were just immediately released onto the streets. Hence the

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<v Speaker 6>incredible youth crime problem. So all of this is just

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<v Speaker 6>a cover up.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, I reckon. You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about machetes is much easier than talking about youth crime,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically gang crime, just much easier. I love to language

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<v Speaker 3>knives have no place on our streets. What about gangs

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<v Speaker 3>have no place on our streets. I will get these

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous knives off our streets. How about getting dangerous gangs

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<v Speaker 3>off the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>You've absolutely failed to do that. So you've made.

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<v Speaker 3>Machetes, and the definition of machete it's a knife blade

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<v Speaker 3>that's longer than twenty centimeters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are bread knives that are longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Than twenty centimeters, so big loaves of bread, it must.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing about this, of course, is that ban

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<v Speaker 3>will apply from midday on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is such a big problem, why wouldn't we.

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<v Speaker 3>Ban it immediately, but to provide opportunity for retailers to adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, there's going to be an absolute.

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<v Speaker 3>Run on machetes for the next two and a half

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<v Speaker 3>days up until midday on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>People are rushing and buy them all.

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<v Speaker 6>And when you ban machetes, wouldn't these kids just move

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<v Speaker 6>to knives or sissys then you.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy then you ban knives, and your band scissors.

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<v Speaker 4>Or axes, then you buy hammers.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you ban hammers like I could name so many

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<v Speaker 6>rope like goodness, anything could be violent, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>the problem. They don't want to address the underlying drivers

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<v Speaker 6>of the crisis, so it's easier to just ban things.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Should kids have access to machetes obviously not. Should we

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<v Speaker 6>control access to machetes totally, But let's be very clear

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<v Speaker 6>this is not some newfound desire to reign in crime.

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<v Speaker 6>This is just into Alan trying to cover up the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>That her government has failed.

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<v Speaker 3>And like we talked about with the ban on cigarettes

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<v Speaker 3>in jails, do you reckon in a couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>time on the orb were Donga border, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>big store opening up machete the machete shop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go and do it if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really exist.

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<v Speaker 5>But it concerns me as well how easily people are

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<v Speaker 5>willing to give up liberties and freedoms right.

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<v Speaker 2>And most people might sit there and say, well, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't have a machete. I'm probably never going to buy

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<v Speaker 5>a machete, so I don't really care if you ban

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<v Speaker 5>the machete. But there are plenty of people who would

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<v Speaker 5>go bush walking or work on farms or whatever it

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<v Speaker 5>might be, who would argue that they have a legitimate

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<v Speaker 5>use for a machete and that they should be able

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<v Speaker 5>to buy one. And so you start with the machete

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<v Speaker 5>and you say, well, for the good of the people,

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<v Speaker 5>will stop the sale of the machetes. And one by

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<v Speaker 5>one we have these little changes that we make to

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<v Speaker 5>our lives and say we'll give up a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of freedom, a little bit of liberty, because we believe

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<v Speaker 5>that will make the rest of us safer until you

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<v Speaker 5>get to the point where you have no liberty or

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<v Speaker 5>freedom left. Because that's the ultimate version of safety, is

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<v Speaker 5>that there is no risk in life. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 5>that's the kind of world you want to live in,

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<v Speaker 5>go for it. But it's not the kind of world

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<v Speaker 5>I want to live in. The kid with the machine

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<v Speaker 5>Eddie will find something else to use. Whether he's got

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<v Speaker 5>the machete or not, he's still going to commit crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't change.

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<v Speaker 3>She's dealing with the symptom and she's ignoring the root issues,

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<v Speaker 3>which is so common amongst our governments. Another area where

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<v Speaker 3>they continue to ignore root issues is of course, in immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly illegal immigration. Figures released from the Department of Home

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<v Speaker 3>Affairs today just show an extraordinary situation in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>We now have fifty one thousand failed asylum seekers living

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<v Speaker 3>here in Australia, though they have no right to be here,

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<v Speaker 3>which begs the question, when, if ever, will they be

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<v Speaker 3>deported and go home. We read today there are forty

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<v Speaker 3>three thousand, four hundred and ninety three people challenging the

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<v Speaker 3>rejection of their visa application in the Administrative Tribunal. But

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<v Speaker 3>the number of immigrants have gone through the system and

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<v Speaker 3>now have no right to remain in Australia is estimated

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<v Speaker 3>to have reached fifty one thousand, six hundred and seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me show you a graph.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see how the number of people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been denied a visa but are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet to be deported has grown over.

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<v Speaker 3>The last few years while Labor has been in power.

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<v Speaker 3>There is currently ninety five, one hundred and ten of whom,

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<v Speaker 3>as I said, fifty one thousand have now exhausted all

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<v Speaker 3>of their court options and yet are still here in

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<v Speaker 3>this country now. Tony Burke, when answering questions from journalists

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<v Speaker 3>about this extraordinarily Freyer said, what we expect them to leave?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these are.

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<v Speaker 3>People, many of whom arrived here illegally, others who have

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<v Speaker 3>gained the system using all sorts of novel excuses to stay,

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<v Speaker 3>and Tony Burke, the Immigration Minister, says, well, we expect

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<v Speaker 3>them to live. You can't expect these people to just

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<v Speaker 3>voluntarily leave. The government has to do something.

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<v Speaker 6>He's essentially asking people to self deport Trump style, except

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<v Speaker 6>he's not offering them any incentive to do so. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>why would anyone want to leave Australia at all.

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<v Speaker 4>We are one of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Best countries on earth, so I totally understand why tens

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<v Speaker 6>of thousands of people are willing to break the law

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<v Speaker 6>in order to stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>But that doesn't mean it's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And actually this was an issue even back in Margaret

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<v Speaker 6>Thatcher's time, and she made this great comment in Parliament

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<v Speaker 6>in the UK.

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<v Speaker 9>Kable gentlemen is suggesting that we ever get to a

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<v Speaker 9>position when you cannot return illegal immigrants to that country

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<v Speaker 9>of origin, then here's proposing international chaos.

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<v Speaker 6>And that is one of the key issues. In order

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<v Speaker 6>to deport people who've had their asylum claims rejected, the

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<v Speaker 6>country that they originate from has to accept them back.

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<v Speaker 6>Now an increasing list of countries are simply refusing to

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<v Speaker 6>do so, and it is straining the international order. How

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<v Speaker 6>can we be expected to cooperate with these countries when

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<v Speaker 6>they don't respect our sovereignty and our right to control

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<v Speaker 6>our borders.

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<v Speaker 4>Kalab Well, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff should be so simple.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, James, if you were decided to

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<v Speaker 5>rock up to my waterfront, padded beal Maine, because you

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<v Speaker 5>can't resist the view of the Sydney Harbor.

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<v Speaker 3>Bridge whenever I ring the bell and you never answered, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that in the driveway suspicious.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you why. If you've read the doormat it's

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<v Speaker 5>his wine required for intro. Yes that he's actually written

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<v Speaker 5>on my door, and he's never brought the wine. But say,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll let you in, and you block yourself on the

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<v Speaker 5>Eames chair and you sit there and look at the

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<v Speaker 5>harbor Bridge and you go, bug it, I'm staying here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not leaving.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, i'd call up the coppers, and the coppers have

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<v Speaker 5>come and take you away for trespass, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, surely it is as simple as that. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have allowed yourself into an area.

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<v Speaker 3>What if I had a really good lawyer who was

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<v Speaker 3>funded by the government and by taxpayers to provide twenty

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<v Speaker 3>different appeal boards.

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<v Speaker 2>That I complicating facts?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I went there.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I mean, how hard is it you

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<v Speaker 5>come to my property you're not meant to be that

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<v Speaker 5>the police will come and take you away as you trespassed.

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<v Speaker 5>It should be exactly the same. You're not meant to

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<v Speaker 5>be here. We have ruled that you are not an

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<v Speaker 5>asylum seeker. So you should be on the first plane

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<v Speaker 5>back home.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really worried we're going to go the way

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<v Speaker 2>of the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>And we keep getting these insane stories out of the

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<v Speaker 5>UK recently. I mean, my favorite one was that the

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<v Speaker 5>Albanian bloke who he couldn't go back to Albania because

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<v Speaker 5>he had a child in the UK who didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>foreign chicken nuggets and so it would be against his

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<v Speaker 5>human rights to send him back to Albania.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is the cheat code.

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<v Speaker 5>You go to the country, but you're not meant to be,

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<v Speaker 5>saying you're a student or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You apply for asylum status.

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<v Speaker 5>It takes us about seventeen years to assess whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not you're actually allowed in the country. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 5>you hook up with some bird, getter up the duff,

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<v Speaker 5>have a few kids, bag we can't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Rid of you now because you've got roots in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>What the Albanizer government did, and we said earlier, there's

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<v Speaker 3>about forty three thousand people still going through the appeals process,

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<v Speaker 3>so freer. They gave extra funding, right to move people

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<v Speaker 3>through the process quicker, But all that achieves is putting

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<v Speaker 3>more people into the position where now they've exhausted their

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<v Speaker 3>legal rights. You've got to do something about those people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those situations where it starts off as

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<v Speaker 3>so small we won't bother addressing it, but quickly it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes so big. If you're going to address it, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to cost a mozza. And can you imagine the

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<v Speaker 3>controversy once they start physically deporting and forcing people out

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<v Speaker 3>of the country. If they don't start on this soon,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to end up with chaos.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Last month, less than five people were actually involuntarily imported,

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<v Speaker 6>five out of over fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an absolute joke.

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<v Speaker 6>But moving on now, I feel like councils always give

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<v Speaker 6>us so much to talk about, and this time it's

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<v Speaker 6>Melbourne City Council. Of course, during COVID they had a

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred million dollar fund with them and the state

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<v Speaker 6>government and it was all about trying.

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<v Speaker 8>To revive the businesses that.

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<v Speaker 4>They shut down.

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<v Speaker 6>Except it's now been revealed under a Freedom of information

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<v Speaker 6>request that instead of spending this money supporting businesses, they

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<v Speaker 6>actually spent it making Melbourne even more unlivable. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and twenty five thousand dollars from Melbourne's fund has been

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<v Speaker 6>diverted to changing these speed limits in suburbs from fifty

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<v Speaker 6>and sixty kilometers down to forty kilometer zones. That sounds great, Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>let's have this money to revive the city we killed,

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<v Speaker 6>and let's.

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<v Speaker 4>Kill it even more.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that's ridiculous. Shouldn't that money be going

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<v Speaker 6>to business as Kyler?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course it should, But I mean this is just

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<v Speaker 5>typical stuff, right, I mean, they've done this in so

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<v Speaker 5>many places now, so many councils across the country just

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<v Speaker 5>made vast swayes, not only cities with suburbia forty kilometers

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<v Speaker 5>an hour for whatever reason, because I don't know, some

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<v Speaker 5>dumb kid runs out.

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<v Speaker 2>On the road and you'd hit them a little.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, seriously, forty kilometers now fifty kilometers an hour.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you're screaming down the street at seventy it is

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<v Speaker 5>probably not that much of a difference. But they tried

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<v Speaker 5>this in Adelaide in twenty thirteen. They need a trial

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<v Speaker 5>in the CBD where they cut the speed limit back

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<v Speaker 5>when Steven Yard would my great mate not was lord mayor.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty thirteen, they cut the speed limit in parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the city to forty and Less than a year later,

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<v Speaker 5>they scrapped it because they realized it didn't make a

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<v Speaker 5>lick of difference, and all it did was discourage people

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<v Speaker 5>from driving into the city because oh good, say we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to go at forty kilometers an hour. I go

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<v Speaker 5>to the places where I can go fifty because I

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<v Speaker 5>want to be actually able to move around. There are

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<v Speaker 5>places in Melbourne now where they're actually reducing the speed

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<v Speaker 5>limit to thirty kilometers an hour. I mean, where does

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<v Speaker 5>an end you go from fifty to forty, forty to thirty,

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<v Speaker 5>thirty to twenty and then it'll be bike lanes everywhere,

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<v Speaker 5>which is probably their ultimate goal anyway, because that'll be

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<v Speaker 5>the fastest way to move.

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<v Speaker 3>And like Freya said, this just makes the cities even

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<v Speaker 3>more unlivable when the point of the fund was to

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<v Speaker 3>reinvigorate CBD businesses after they were devastated during the pandemic

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred and what was it fifty million thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>towards bike lanes slowing down cars to forty kilometers an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I love what one of the council spokesman said when

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<v Speaker 3>trying to defend this decision, that there was one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars allocated right to reviving inner city businesses, and

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<v Speaker 3>the spokesperson said, and I quote, more than sixty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars was directed to support businesses. Now, my math isn't

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<v Speaker 3>great the best of times, prayer, but you've already cottoned on.

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<v Speaker 3>If one hundred million dollars was dedicated and they have

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<v Speaker 3>spent sixty million, to what happened to the other forty

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<v Speaker 3>million that was meant to help businesses a that this

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<v Speaker 3>is typical though Mooney Valley Council famously a few years

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<v Speaker 3>ago there were floods in the area and they spent

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<v Speaker 3>flood recovery money funding an indigenous artist to do an

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<v Speaker 3>Indigenous sculpture for a children's playground which was far removed

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<v Speaker 3>from the area that was flooded. So councils continually use

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<v Speaker 3>money allocated for one thing to fund their pet projects.

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<v Speaker 1>If you did that in any other sector of.

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<v Speaker 3>Society, you'd be at least sacked, if not investigated and prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet councils repeatedly use rate payer money for things

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<v Speaker 3>other than what it was intended for, and in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Case, to make things worse rather than better.

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<v Speaker 6>But one of the problems as well, is that the

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<v Speaker 6>people who live in these inner city areas and who

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<v Speaker 6>vote for the councils are often perfectly happy to just

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<v Speaker 6>ride around on their bike, no cars.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't even want businesses.

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<v Speaker 6>Half of them are socialists, and so the councils can

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<v Speaker 6>get away with this stuff. But it's the businesses that

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<v Speaker 6>ultimately pay. And that's what I think is really sad.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to be the small businesses, the mums and

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<v Speaker 6>dads who can't afford to keep up as these draconian,

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<v Speaker 6>anti fun, anti freedom councils have their way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's all anti car.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, have a look around any city now and

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<v Speaker 5>look at how many loading zones there are.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not to say it's anti track the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>How do they think that cities operate? I mean things

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<v Speaker 5>get brought into cities on trucks. Trucks need loading zones

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<v Speaker 5>to park. Oh, we'll take the loading zones out more

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<v Speaker 5>to bike lane in instead. They just well, I think

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.200
<v Speaker 5>they do get it. They know exactly what they are doing.

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<v Speaker 5>The point is to stop you from driving your car.

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<v Speaker 5>But newsflash, when if you can't drive your car, people

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<v Speaker 5>just won't go places and it'll hurt the cities, and

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<v Speaker 5>then there won't be anyone to pay the rates anymore,

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<v Speaker 5>and then there'll be no counsel, which perhaps is the

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<v Speaker 5>best thing that could happen for all of us. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>I scratch my head and I think, why have you

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<v Speaker 5>made this decision?

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of them. I mean, why would you reduce

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<v Speaker 2>the speed limit?

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<v Speaker 5>And another one of those moments I had today, ADHD

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<v Speaker 5>diagnosis in New South Wales is now going to be

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<v Speaker 5>extended to GPS. So currently if you want a diagnosis

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<v Speaker 5>of ADHD you have to go to either a pediatrician

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<v Speaker 5>if you're a child, or a psychiatrist they're also qualified

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<v Speaker 5>to give out ADHD medication. Well, the New South Wales

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<v Speaker 5>state government says no, no, we should be able to

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<v Speaker 5>allow GPS to do it now, just the average family

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<v Speaker 5>doctor to say, yes, you can have an ADHD diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can have an ADHD diagnosis, and why don't

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<v Speaker 5>we sign everyone up for an ADHD diagnosis, because that's

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.239
<v Speaker 5>where we seem to be going these days. I mean,

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.639
<v Speaker 5>every second kid apparently has ADHD and ADHD is not

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 5>on the NDIS, but one in ten young boys is

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 5>now on the NDAs with autism or some such thing.

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 5>And of course the schools encourage parents to get ADHD

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 5>diagnoses because I get special dispensation funding and all sorts

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 5>of things. Parents cutcrook if their children don't get diagnoses

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 5>that they ask for, whether it be ADHD or autism

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 5>or whatever. All the autism they've been diagnosed with is

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 5>two miles so they can't get on the NDAs. This

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.919
<v Speaker 5>is going on all the time, and it's a serious diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 5>So you say, well, without any real basis, we'll just

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 5>allow an average GP to start maybe start making these is.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got to take another course so.

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<v Speaker 5>That they can have the power to give out ADHD diagnosis. Well,

0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 5>once it gets around that the GP down at this

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 5>clinic is handing out ADHD diagnoses, how many kids do

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 5>you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be lined up out the front with their parents

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 2>to go and get it. It's just a business.

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<v Speaker 3>Rule, and no one's denying there's an issue here. But when,

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<v Speaker 3>as you said, between six and ten percent of young

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 3>people in this country have got a mental health disorder,

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't the response be to say, WHOA, let's stop for

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 3>a second and figure out what is going on, rather

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 3>than to say let's make it as easy as possible

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 3>for these kids to get diagnosed and then prescribed and

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 3>put on medication. And I've got firsthand experience of this,

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 3>as many parents around the country would where your child

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 3>goes to school misbehaves, and then in our situation, it

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 3>was teachers saying, we need you to go and get

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>your child seen to and diagnosed with ADHD because then

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 3>the school gets extra funding for extra support to provide

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>behavioral management in classrooms, et cetera, et cetera. And so

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 3>we took our kid along because we don't want our

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 3>kid to suffer and be behind at school. And I

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 3>was actually shocked with a pediatrician at how quickly after

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 3>one consultation that was very brief, Oh yeah, ADHD put

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 3>them on whatever the ADHD drug is. And as parents,

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 3>we were kind of horrified. We had the school encouraging

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 3>us very strongly from one end, we had a health

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 3>professional who seemed pretty quick to diagnose and prescribe, and

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 3>as parents, you just want the best for your kids,

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 3>and I certainly don't think most parents want to put

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>their children on some sort of drug. So we're going

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 3>to get an explosion in diagnoses. You would think, as

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 3>you said, Caleb, if you've got GPS.

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Now prescribing this.

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 3>They're already giving out four point six million prescriptions for

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 3>ADHD drugs. That was between twenty twenty three and twenty

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty four in one year, four point six million prescriptions.

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<v Speaker 1>This will make it more and I'm not sure it's

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's so sad, and we also don't know what

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 6>the long term consequences are of essentially drugging a significant

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 6>proportion of an entire generation in one of the biggest

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 6>medical experiments on children we've ever conducted what happens, and

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 6>we do see from some of the early research coming

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 6>out that, particularly in boys, one of the things it

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 6>does is reduce their drive and ambition, and that's partly

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 6>why now across our education system you're actually seeing girls

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 6>now outperforming boys, and now there's a reverse gender gap

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 6>where girls are excelling at record rates, but it's boys

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 6>being left behind because the system, now if you're not

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 6>a nice little girl in school, will go put you

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 6>on medication with no idea about the long term consequences.

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 8>And so once again it is children.

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 6>It is society's most vulnerable people that are going to

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 6>pay the price for this.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 3>Experiment, so I should point out quickly because I used

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 3>some personal experience. We just adjusted some behavioral management issues

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 3>with our son and that he's now doing brilliant and

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 3>it's probably the best kid in this country.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very good.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 5>But you see, of course, you pathologize increasingly things that

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 5>are part of the normal human experience. You know, worry

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 5>becomes anxiety, sadness becomes depression. You know, a boy mucking

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 5>around because he's perhaps not being treated as he should

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 5>or no one really understands him. Where he's got ADHD

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 5>And that's the point of ritalin and all these other

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 5>means is to try and essentially dull and create an

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 5>equilibrium for these kids. But the rought that I talked

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 5>about before, where do you think that the number one

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 5>school in New South Wales that had the most students

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 5>approved for disability provisions under the HSC last year?

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Have I guess where it was.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And what school it was? I wouldn't even know where

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>to begin with edge.

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 6>I've got to Gasfoya Kayla. Was it a school in

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 6>the eastern suburbs?

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't in the eastern suburbs?

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 4>It was?

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It was in Cremorn, so right right next to all

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Redlands where.

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Forty nine point four percent of HSC students had some

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of special dispensation to do with disability. And that's

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 5>exactly why they want the diagnosis, because it means the

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 5>students will maybe get some extra time in their exam,

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 5>or they get to mixed through assistance, or they can

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 5>do something a bit differently, and the schools use.

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 2>That to jack up their results. I mean, why wouldn't

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>you do it?

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 6>And Caleb, the thing is as well, kids from truly

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 6>disadvantaged backgrounds often don't have the resources or the know

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 6>how to work through the medical system to get these

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 6>diagnoses and get the special privileges. So once again it

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 6>is the most vulnerable that tend to suffer.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 4>But let's move on now.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 6>So the ABC has been forced to apologize to two

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 6>national MP's after one of its political reporters falsely claimed

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 6>that they abandoned their electorates while people were dying.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the other thing that's probably really important to

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 10>regional communities is that they have a local member who's

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 10>there when their electorate is, for example, flooding. So I

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 10>went through this earlier today. I went and check so

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 10>on Wednesday afternoon. There was a sixty three year old

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 10>man in Moto that's near Tyree. That's in Allison Penfold's

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 10>seat the National He died on Thursday morning. The body

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 10>was recovered of a thirty year old a man his

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 10>thirties in Rosewood that's in her seat as well. On

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 10>Thursday afternoon, that's when we had the press conference from

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 10>the Nationals in the Hall. Just to go over that timeline,

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 10>a sixty year old woman died in her car near

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 10>Koff's Harbor in this flood. That's in Pact Conahan's seat

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 10>of Kauper.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 10>Important thing is that when you're in opposition, it's also

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 10>still your job to be a local member and represent

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 10>your communities, to be there for them.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 6>Now, initially when I saw this story, I thought, oh, no,

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 6>some poor reporter we've never heard of has made an

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 6>innocent mistake. Oh this is really sad and awkward. But

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 6>you can hear there this was no an innocent mistake.

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 6>She was on a witch hunt to attack National Party MPs.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 8>She researched everyone who had died in their.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 6>Electrics, which is totally a tragedy, but she failed to

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 6>check where that the MP's were actually there, and in

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 6>fact they were they never abandoned their electorate.

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Fifty percent of her research was outstanding. It was just

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 3>the other fifty percent, which was pretty much nonexistent and

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 3>meant that the ABC had to issue an apology, which

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 3>is pretty embarrassing. It just goes to show it it's

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>just easy to whack a member of the coalition, and

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>the ABC are pretty proficient at that, and it's a

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>classic example of just take a whack without checking first

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 3>to see whether it was deserved or in fact based

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>on truth.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think this might have proved that it's not

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 5>that easy to take a whack at a member of

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 5>the coalition because there was no basis for the whack whatsoever.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, if you're going to go for someone,

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 5>you've actually got to get your facts right before you

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 5>do it. And I had a situation a bit like this,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 5>not involving the ABC, but a journalist at an outlet

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 5>that will.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Remain unnamed sent me this email recently saying you said

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>this on air, and this is wrong and that was wrong,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to write it up.

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 5>And I went back and methodically went through exactly what

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 5>I had said on air, and how it all had

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 5>basis in fact, and that what they were telling me

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 5>I had said was wrong.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I could point to the exact.

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 5>Piece in the document where it said, no, what I've

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 5>said is exactly true. Funnily enough, that piece didn't end

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 5>up getting written. At least they did the due diligence

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 5>to reach out beforehand and ask before they ran the piece.

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 5>What has happened here is a journalist has gone on

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>air and run her mouth and said, oh, well, you know,

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 5>why aren't they in their electric now? If she had

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 5>made the point that all of this is a great

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 5>side show while there is a natural disaster going on,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 5>and that the Nationals as a party roof point should

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 5>have been far more interested in flood victims than their

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 5>own personal issues this week, that would have been a

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 5>totally legitimate point to make. But she deliberately and specifically

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 5>pointed out MP's and suggested that they weren't in their

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 5>electorates when they were. I mean, it is the most

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 5>basic stuff. And here, but for the grace of God

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 5>goes oh. You and I have worked as newspaper reporters, James,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 5>We've all made mistakes before and had to issue retractions

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 5>for some minor issue or whatever, but this is a

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 5>pretty big one.

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, and when you're talking on live television, off the cuff,

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you can say things, you know, in the heat of

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>the moment that maybe it was not exactly correct, or

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>maybe you're kind of sure but not totally sure. But

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>as you said, Freyer, she had her notes there. She

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 3>came prepared to make this charge, to fire this bullet,

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>only to find it wasn't true at all. And of

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 3>course the damages always that so many more people actually

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 3>see the initial report, which is inaccurate, then see the retraction,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and so the damage is done.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 6>And it also just continues to erode public trust in

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 6>the ABC. And that's what's happening consistently over time. When

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 6>you make these political tacks that clearly are politically and

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 6>emotionally motivated, people get annoyed.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, remember ABC had to deal with our mit for

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 5>a fact check units, right, I mean, if that would

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 5>have happened to that, if that will by the wayside,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 5>because they were even the APENC worked out that the

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 5>affection unit wasn't all that crash on, but if it

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 5>still existed, this is something that they should be looking at.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Queensland quickly because the LNP government have

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>made an interesting decision that I think will please a

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of people. They have canned the approval for a

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 3>wind farm forty kilometers outside of Rockhampton. This was a

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 3>massive wind farm, eighty eight turbines, a one billion dollar project.

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 3>It was going to supply power to over two hundred

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 3>thousand homes. But the LNP have said no, it will

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 3>not go ahead because the locals were not properly consulted.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 3>The l ANDP of created new laws saying that from

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>now on local councils must give consent and there's mandatory

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 3>consultation with locals before any renewable company can lodge a DA. Now,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 3>of course, as you would expect, the Labor leader, Stephen

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Miles has labeled this just dumb quote unquote, saying that

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>this proves the NP hate renewables or maybe they're just

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 3>really sympathetic to people who hate wind turbines being put

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>up in their backyard.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Though this does raise.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Some questions for me Caleb if the LNP in Queensland,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 3>who would not support nuclear power going into the federal election,

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 3>but nor do they want wind turbines. They're not opening

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 3>coal fired power stations anytime soon. So I'm just wondering

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>where does the power come from in the lnp's plan.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I like that decision to scrap the wind farm, but

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 3>it just means they've got to come up with some

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>better policy really, because it doesn't quite make sense yet

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>to me.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>No, you don't get power.

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<v Speaker 5>China gets power with the coal that we're selling them,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 5>but we don't get power in the end or handles,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 5>which is well, I mean, you know that's where they

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 5>want to go essentially, right. I mean that the idea

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 5>that we can't use coal and we can't use cheap

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 5>and efficient forms of energy is essentially a form of regression.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we have spent all of eternity, all of humanity, progressing,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 5>and we've now reached the point it apparently we've progressed

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 5>too much, and so we need to regress backwards.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a common sense decision, right, of course.

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 5>The community should be consulted on these things. But most

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 5>often when you have community consultation, whether it's from state

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 5>government or council or whatever, they already made up their

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 5>mind and then they go out with the bit of

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 5>paper and saying, excuse me, sir, what do you think

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 5>And cir comes back and says I don't like it,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 5>and they say, well, I don't care, made my mind

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 5>up anyway, so it doesn't particularly matter. And maybe this

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 5>is an example of how un actually doing what they'll

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 5>say they'll.

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 4>Do, no exactly.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 6>And then the problem is as well with community consultation,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 6>like we see this in housing all the time. How

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 6>many councils willingly accept new homes in their council areas

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 6>Very few. But I think we've gone too far the

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 6>other way, where communities have been bulldozed and disrespected and

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 6>not considered at all, which is actually breaking with precedent.

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 4>So if you want a massive.

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 6>Agriculture project or mining, you have to consult the people

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 6>that will be affected. But there's a double standard when

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 6>it comes to renewables. So seeing that corrected is a

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 6>good thing.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people will be very happy

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 3>with that decision.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's just be real for a moment as well.

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.959
<v Speaker 5>So we've got all the green hydrogen projects gone right,

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Twiggy's pulling all of his money out. I think it's

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 5>ninety nine percent of the green hydrogen projects having got

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 5>past the approval stage. You've got wind projects gone. They're

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 5>all disappearing overnight. And yet we're still saying that we're

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 5>going to make net zero by twenty fifty, and we're

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 5>going to have eighty percent of the grid renewable by

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 5>twenty thirty. It's not going to happen. Everyone in the

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 5>energy sector knows it's not.

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Going to happen. So why don't we just admit it

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>won't happen and get rid of it.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 3>We'd of saying, thank God, it won't happen, because if

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 3>you get eighty percent renewables in the grid, the experience

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>of Spain is the grid won't sustain that, So God willing,

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 3>we'll never get there.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're going to go to a break.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 3>including how's it Affordability hits a historic low, but one

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 3>state opposition is promising to scrap stamp duty for first

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>home buyers. We'll bring you all of that and more

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>in just a moment. Welcome back. Let's take a look

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 3>at what's making headlines tomorrow. We'll start with the Daily Telegraph.

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 3>The headline reads special report Housing affordability hits a historic low.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Sydney's Unlucky thirteen. I'll explain the significance of thirteen. Shocking

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 3>new data reveals owning a home is the impossible dream

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>for young Sydney siders, with the median house price now

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>thirteen times the average salary. The Australian Property Institute's report

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 3>highlights the stark reality in which new buyers have been

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 3>shut out of the market. The median house price in

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Sydney is now one point six million dollars and to

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 3>afford a home in Sydney now they're saying you need

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 3>to be on two hundred and fifty grand a year

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>to be able to afford a home. So, as the

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 3>article reports, just so many young people now just despairing

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 3>that they will not even thinking about ever owning a home.

0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>It's his rent.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 6>And this is a failure of government, this is a

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 6>policy failure. We live in a huge country, but we

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 6>have this housing crisis because we've had too little supply

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 6>and too much demand from massive levels of immigration. But

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 6>if we move on now on that theme of housing,

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 6>to the Herald Son, Libb's call of duty stamp duty

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 6>acts for first home buys spending up to one million

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 6>dollars under bold election promise from Victorian Opposition stamp duty

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 6>would be acts for first home buys spending up to

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 6>one million dollars if the Opposition is elected next year.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 6>Under the massive one billion dollar commitment, first home buyers

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 6>would save up to fifty five thousand dollars in taxes

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 6>on the purchase.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Of any existing new home.

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 6>Now it's estimated that this would benefit seventeen thousand Victorians

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 6>in the first full year of operation. As someone who

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 6>did just purchase a first home, I actually qualified for

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 6>the I think it was fully stamp duty exempt, actually

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 6>New South Wales, and it was huge.

0:37:58.280 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>It was massive.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 6>Stamp duty is one of the most inefficient taxes in

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 6>our tax system. It locks young people out of the

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 6>property market. I think good on the Victorian Liberals.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, when I bought my first joint, I think

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 5>it was like a year when I was in South Australia.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 5>It was like a year before they brought in rules

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 5>down there to get rid of stamp duty.

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>So I paid full tot odds.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 5>To Steven Marshall at the time when he was running

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 5>the joint, and he didn't take too kindly to me.

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 5>After that it would seem so I'm sorry I made

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 5>that donation to him. I think the point is to

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 5>go back to the previous story. But you know, the

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 5>impossible dream, as Andy Williams once saying, you should still

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 5>dream the impossible dream and fight the unbeatable foe. But

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 5>we have to recognize that even with these things like

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, removing stamp duty for first home bars, that

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 5>number that it is now thirteen times.

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>The average wage to buy a house is.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 5>A lot more than it was twenty years ago, and

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 5>it's a lot more than it was twenty years before that.

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And I understand the argument.

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, young people pull yourselves up by your bootstraps,

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 5>and times out of ten, I would absolutely say that, yes,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 5>don't sit around winging and asking for things and waiting

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 5>for a handout and complaining how bad you've got it.

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 5>But the reality is that the housing market has exploded

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 5>and it is more difficult to buy a home now

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 5>than it used to be. It's not just because all

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 5>the kids are having avocado on toast. It is actually

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.919
<v Speaker 5>more difficult to buy a home. And if you don't

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 5>address those I mean, I don't know. You've got two

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 5>young sons, how do they feel, James about the possibility

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 5>of buying their own home, and.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 3>It's how do I feel about having those two young

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 3>sons and living with me forever?

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Adelaide.

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Did you know Adelaide is now the sixth most expensive

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 3>city in the world buy a house. Yep, more expensive

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 3>than London, more expensive than New York, more expensive than Chicago.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>So that's no great surprise to everyone wants to be

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>set you up beautifully to It is self evident, and

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 2>lot people like me who bought but at the.

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 5>Right time are cheering about that because I have made

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 5>so much money in the last five years by doing

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 5>literally nothing right. I bought the place right before the

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 5>market went through the roof, and I've just sat on

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 5>the asset and I've done well. I'll acknowledge that I've

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 5>done very well by buying when I did, but I

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 5>feel sorry for my younger brother. It's only a few

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 5>years younger than me, but you know, the chances of

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 5>him buying a home are exponentially more difficult than they

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 5>were for me.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Let's move on to the.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Australian tomorrow, where it says USI's Darwin Port Prize the

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 5>US private equity firm with strong tires to the Trump

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 5>administration is poised to make an offer to buy the

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 5>Port of Darwin from its Chinese owner in a test

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 5>of Anthony Albernizi's resolved to bring the port back under

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Western control.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 2>The Australian can reveal New.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 5>York based Cerebras Capital Management is preparing a formal proposal

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 5>to buy the port from Landbridge Group billionaire owner Yi Ching,

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 5>who was a close confidante of seeingior Chinese Communist Party figures.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 5>And let's hope that they actually managed to pull it off.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the.

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 5>Fact that we ever gave away the Port of Darwin

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 5>in the first place is a disgrace. Thank you Malcolm

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 5>Turnbull for that. And then, of course, when Anthony Albanizi

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 5>had the opportunity to do something about this, commissioned to

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 5>report that he then sat on for six months and

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 5>released at four pm. I remember I was in here

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 5>four pm on a Friday afternoon saying there's absolutely nothing

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 5>wrong with the Port of Darwin being owned by the Chinese,

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.959
<v Speaker 5>approximately a week before he flew to China to meet

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 5>with Jiji Pink. I mean, it's the oldest trick in

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 5>the book. And then of course in the election.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well we'll do about the border, Darwen.

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, for goodness sake.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he made that pledge during the election

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 3>to try to get ahead of the coalition, who of

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 3>course always saw national security as one of their strengths.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>He didn't even know what he was pledging, but he has.

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Gotten quick, so he tried to, you know, nullify that

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>as an issue. I don't believe that he's serious about

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think many people really do.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, another story on in front of the Ulster tomorrow,

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 5>PM's Israel, since he hailed Palestine's representatives in Australia have

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 5>ordered comments by Anthony Albinezi decrying Israel's actions in Gaza,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 5>describing his indivention as a significant quote unquote advancement in

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 5>Australia's position on Palestine and urging the government to take

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 5>concrete action against the Jewish state.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>These were the Prime Minister's comments today.

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 11>Australia finds these actions as completely unacceptable and we find

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 11>Israel's excuses and explanations completely untenable and without credibility. People

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 11>are starving and the idea that a democratic state with

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 11>hold's supply is an outrage.

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 5>And of course there is talking about the supply of aid,

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 5>food and supplies of course into Gaza. It's a vex

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 5>question because of course it is immoral to deprive people

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 5>of food and aid that they rightly deserve and absolutely need.

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 5>On the other hand, you don't want to basically har

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 5>mass with extra things.

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, the risk is that they take it away.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 2>So what do you actually meant to do?

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 6>And one of the problems was this aid that was

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 6>coming in and being distributed would inevitably end up in

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 6>the hands of her mass.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 4>They would then sell it on the black.

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.919
<v Speaker 6>Market, rake in profits and use that to pay their

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 6>people and keep recruiting this. But this comes back to

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.479
<v Speaker 6>the fundamental question of the entire war. The best thing

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 6>for Palestinians, the best thing for Garzens, is to get

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 6>rid of her Maas, and any way the Israelis can

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 6>do that by depriving them of by depriving her Mass

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 6>of access to the aid that they can loot and root,

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 6>is a good thing. And also the accusation that there

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 6>was going to be mass starvation in Israel was a

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 6>shameless libel against the Jewish state that was categorically debunked totally.

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 4>There is suffering but that's war. So let's get rid

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 4>of her maas and end the war, return the hostages.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 6>This is just a classic case. I think now Albaneze

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 6>has won the prime won the election again, he doesn't

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 6>care about the Jewish community and is abandoning them once again.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd just like him to speak as strongly as

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 3>he did then about the hostages exactly being released. As

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 3>he does every time he talks about his perceived wrongs

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 3>regarding Israeliti's never the same.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Let's move on to another story.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 6>Two foreign nationals have been banned full life from Ularu

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 6>after they were busted defacing it, with their embassy issuing

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 6>the ban and an apology to the Anangu traditional owners

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 6>for the deep offense the foreign nationals cause. Now this

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 6>is in the Northern Territory News and the headline reads

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 6>banned for life. Apparently they're from the Bhutan embassy. A

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 6>quick Google search showed so I don't really know what's

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 6>going on here. I kind of want to know.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 8>How they defaced Ularu.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's bad no matter what it was, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just curious what they did.

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<v Speaker 3>It shows how sensitive this is that their own embassy

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<v Speaker 3>have said they are gone and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Will never return.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the twig out.

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<v Speaker 5>We was here as you used to put in the

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<v Speaker 5>tree back in primaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey really quickly before we go to a break.

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<v Speaker 3>The Gold Coast Bulletin has a story for AFL lovers

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<v Speaker 3>on the cusp of history. The Gold Coast Sons have

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<v Speaker 3>never started better as they close in on a final spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Got my attention, Caleb, you're an AFL man. The Sons

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<v Speaker 3>have been in the competition for well over a decade,

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<v Speaker 3>have never made the finals. But has any Gold Coast

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<v Speaker 3>sporting team on a national basis ever done well?

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<v Speaker 1>And why would they?

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<v Speaker 3>You young people on the Gold Coast, you're on lots

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<v Speaker 3>of money, you're on the beachrav than training and becoming

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<v Speaker 3>the best athlete.

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<v Speaker 5>You think it'd be a bit like Geelong because all

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<v Speaker 5>the players go in there because they love the lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very good question. I don't know of anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>that's done it. I just love that. Ross Lyne, the

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<v Speaker 2>coach of Sint Kilda the other day, called them the

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<v Speaker 2>Nippo babies that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did not go down.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to go to a break when we

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<v Speaker 3>come back. Some extraordinary footage of the French president was

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<v Speaker 3>he having a fight with his wife. Were they just

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<v Speaker 3>mucking around? Will let you decide in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, Caleb. Some extraordinary footage of the French president.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got me puzzled this way.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we needed a welfare check to be perfectly honest,

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<v Speaker 5>on Emmanuel Macron. He landed in Vietnam and this is

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<v Speaker 5>what the camera's captured. As the doors opened on the

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<v Speaker 5>front of the plane. There's the president there, and then

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<v Speaker 5>you will see he gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Smacked in the face, or at.

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<v Speaker 5>Least pushed, and he sort of gestures back to the

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<v Speaker 5>bloke there, smiles at him, and then turns around and

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<v Speaker 5>with a far more stern look on his face, walked

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<v Speaker 5>back onto the play And then you can see that

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<v Speaker 5>is the sleeve that you saw pushing Macron in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that of his wife, Bridget.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you know whether or not that was some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of playful tiff or she was actually going at him,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean, that's a potential case to domestic

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<v Speaker 5>violence right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it should be pointed out.

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<v Speaker 5>If that was him doing that to her, there wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>even be a discussion about it. He would have to

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<v Speaker 5>resign tomorrow and I don't think we can have double

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<v Speaker 5>standards about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a really interesting point.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can see his reaction there when he realizes

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<v Speaker 3>there are cameras and his stern face becomes a quick smile,

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<v Speaker 3>waves and then disappears back in. It's very weird footage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we'll get an explanation such.

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<v Speaker 6>A strange moment, but there's a lot about the French

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<v Speaker 6>that's quite weird. But moving on now to another weird episode.

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<v Speaker 6>Chris Bowen was reprimanded by a Catholic priest for chomping

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<v Speaker 6>down on a bowl of knocky pasta mid mass. He

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<v Speaker 6>arrived late to the mass, then proceeded to enter and

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<v Speaker 6>sit down in the front row and started eating his

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<v Speaker 6>pasta through the rest of the mass. Now, rightfully, religious

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<v Speaker 6>leaders have criticized this as being quite disrespectful and insensitive.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's claiming he didn't even know he was in

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<v Speaker 6>a mass. I don't know what's more ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's easy to believe Chris Bowen had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea where he was, because he typically has no idea

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<v Speaker 3>about anything. Let's give the final word tonight to former

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<v Speaker 3>US Vice president and presidential candidate Kamala Harris. She of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is in Australia speaking on the weekend and the Gold

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<v Speaker 3>Coast at a real estate conference of all things. She

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<v Speaker 3>was interviewed extensively, and he's just a short clip of

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<v Speaker 3>some of what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, I think your best work is a

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<v Speaker 2>hinterview for sure, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Unemployed right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things. Thank god she's unemployed.

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<v Speaker 3>But for the host to say, Kamala, your best work

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<v Speaker 3>is ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you, I don't think that would be very difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, I think that is entirely

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<v Speaker 5>true because she is now unburdened by what has been

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<v Speaker 5>so everything that does come ahead of you is surely

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<v Speaker 5>better than any things she's done in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, That's all we've got time for tonight. Appreciate your company.

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<v Speaker 3>This evening stick around to coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 3>moment is to read a penny show.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Night.