Speaker 1: Get there, get a and how you going your little legends?
Speaker 1: We bloody love you.
Speaker 2: It's almost Friday.
Speaker 1: This song mouse Fridi, it's all MOUs fridie.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: I wish I could sing, imagine I could sing.
Speaker 2: Woah, intros wouldn't be so good. You wouldn't do it
Speaker 2: if you could really sing, because you know, like the other.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, there was Travis Kelcey and
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift singing along to that song with the American Open,
Speaker 1: the US Open the Tennis. Did you not see that
Speaker 1: footage because they were just like loving life, singing their
Speaker 1: faces off, and I'm like, she's singing into his face,
Speaker 1: like and she's such a great singer, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if Sam and I were singing,
Speaker 1: it would sound like horseshit, but he probably sounds like horseshit.
Speaker 1: And then she's just got these like what's her just
Speaker 1: mucking around singing voice?
Speaker 2: You know, still be good. There's actually nothing better than
Speaker 2: a communal you know, I hate communal clapping? Oh you
Speaker 2: hate communal clapping. I love a communal sing along. Do
Speaker 2: you like a song like Sweet Caroline?
Speaker 1: Oh? Now that's what fucking disgusting. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: just I'd prefer a clap along, then sweet Cat and
Speaker 1: then people going boom boom bomb.
Speaker 2: Oh you like that. I love the communal sing along
Speaker 2: or Tiny Dancer. Oh that's another great communal sing along.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I love it.
Speaker 1: I like a communal sing along, but not to those songs.
Speaker 1: They're the worst song to one song, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe like it has to.
Speaker 2: You know what else you would like?
Speaker 1: Simply the Bad?
Speaker 2: No, no love Tina hate that song?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Same, yeah, yeah, I don't I like simply the Bad,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. No, I'm partial to sing along,
Speaker 1: but I just like I would prefer a like. If
Speaker 1: you are so anti communal clap it surprises me that
Speaker 1: you're so open to a communal sing along like they're.
Speaker 2: On par I'm going to set up the scenario for you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're all in a taxi on the way home, and
Speaker 2: the taxi driver has a song on, let's say Tiny
Speaker 2: Dancer by Elton John's on, and someone says, I love
Speaker 2: this song. Can you turn it up? And they turn
Speaker 2: it up and you all are a bit pissed, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you all start singing along to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. I'm not having singing Sweet Caroline though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, well I went and saw Mill Diamond
Speaker 2: in concert.
Speaker 1: Did you I remember when he was out here? It
Speaker 1: was so long ago. Yeah, that's really funny. Hey, how's this?
Speaker 1: The other day? Sam calls me, He's like, I just
Speaker 1: saw the weirdest thing. It was a traffic jam. There's
Speaker 1: only one road in and out of town, and so
Speaker 1: there's traffic jams often. But he's there was a traffic jam,
Speaker 1: and he said everyone was slowing right down and then
Speaker 1: looking up at a certain point that you can see
Speaker 1: the people in front of you looking at and he
Speaker 1: goes along, and then on the telephone wire was a
Speaker 1: snake coiled like really high up, coiled all the way around,
Speaker 1: but perched up and like kissing because birds were trying
Speaker 1: to get at it. I'm like, that's like a fucking
Speaker 1: David Attenborough like documentary.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to make myself vulnerable and sound very
Speaker 2: dumb here. How do they not get electrocuted? I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think, and I feel like that's something stupid, like
Speaker 2: people are going to go, oh my god, you idiot.
Speaker 2: But I always wonder that when I see birds.
Speaker 1: But I guess the wires are inside the thickness of
Speaker 1: their outside, you know what I mean. But if we
Speaker 1: went and touched it, surely no, we wouldn't get no.
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess maybe that's what they mean when they
Speaker 2: say it's a live wire, like if it comes off
Speaker 2: and it's sort of snaking around because it's an opening. Maybe,
Speaker 2: But how did the snake get up there? They're very high,
Speaker 2: it's slippered.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was thinking in my head. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: gone up a pole and then gone onto the wire.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't. It would have been in a high
Speaker 1: tree and got onto it from a high tree. That
Speaker 1: makes more sense.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I just for someone who's quite anxious. You're like,
Speaker 2: you're quite relaxed with that. Like I could never live
Speaker 2: where you live because of that reason. Like you sent
Speaker 2: me a video. You've sent me a few videos of
Speaker 2: snakes in the backyard. I'm like, yeah, I would be
Speaker 2: so terrified to let the kids go out there and
Speaker 2: play for that reason. Why funny?
Speaker 1: I feel like my anxiety is weird, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like the things that most people are anxious about, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not, but I have hectic anxiety. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you know.
Speaker 2: What it is? This is it? Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: just had like a light bulb moment. Tell me, Probably
Speaker 2: your anxiety is around things that you can control, whereas
Speaker 2: like mine would be more around things I can't control. No,
Speaker 2: that's not right. What a fucking epiphany I've read lost?
Speaker 2: Your epiphany is are always so let down? I guess maybe,
Speaker 2: like say, for example, I think when my son walks
Speaker 2: home from school, there's this stretch of road there I
Speaker 2: don't like, Yes, and I always think to myself, what
Speaker 2: if someone's on their phone and they because there's no
Speaker 2: nature strip separating the road from the foot path. I
Speaker 2: fucking hate that. Yes, And I'm like, what if someone
Speaker 2: hit him on the way home? That's our of my control?
Speaker 2: But I like, do is it ruminate? Is that the
Speaker 2: way I ruminate on it? Yes? You get fixated on
Speaker 2: stuff like you've given examples before about buying a rug. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's like like that is controllable, whereas if someone was
Speaker 2: to hit your kid on the way home, it's out
Speaker 2: of your control. Yeah, so weird. Maybe it's a control
Speaker 2: freak thing, But.
Speaker 1: I just don't because the thing is, I think about
Speaker 1: things like that like the safety of my kids, and
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that at all. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: don't or getting on a plane. I don't like when
Speaker 1: there's turbulence, but I don't have a fear of Like
Speaker 1: I don't fear flying. That's for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have anxiety. I have depression. I
Speaker 1: don't have anxiety because for me it manifests really quite
Speaker 1: differently than your typical anxiety. But I do. I ruminate
Speaker 1: on certain things and I get quite obsessive about it.
Speaker 1: Like I was telling you, I'm pulling together. There are
Speaker 1: a summer six's soccer team for my son, and it's
Speaker 1: consuming me to the point that SAMs like I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear about this fucking team for twenty four
Speaker 1: hours because you are obsessing about it. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, because I can't find enough players for it,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to then let my son down.
Speaker 1: Like see how you can hear me? Yeah, spiraling, it's
Speaker 1: a fucking Summer six's team. It's gonna come together. But
Speaker 1: for me, it's really overwhelming.
Speaker 2: And again that's something that you can control. Put me
Speaker 2: on live television or live radio and I could give
Speaker 2: zero shits. I have no anxiety doing that. I wonder
Speaker 2: if it's like a decision making thing, like a fear
Speaker 2: of not making the right decision or disappointing someone or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
Speaker 2: I cannot Yeah, because it has gotten it has gotten worse.
Speaker 2: It's the way worse.
Speaker 1: But I think it's gotten so much worse lately because
Speaker 1: my health is I've never had a worse year with
Speaker 1: my health. I'm rarely out of bed at the moment,
Speaker 1: which Brooke and I are going to do another episode
Speaker 1: for those who listen to our one on chronic health
Speaker 1: a little while ago. We've decided we'll do some more reps,
Speaker 1: so I won't go on about it in this one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm rarely out of bed at the moment,
Speaker 1: and you have a lot of time to lay there and.
Speaker 2: Think, looking and normal.
Speaker 1: And I've always worked, like yeah, I've always worked. And
Speaker 1: you're like, that's rocked you so much? It has is
Speaker 1: that's been the biggest thing. I think it has been.
Speaker 1: It's too much free time, free space to me, free time,
Speaker 1: and I don't have so I don't have anything else
Speaker 1: to put my attention into. So something like this fucking
Speaker 1: soccer team is like taking all of my attention, where
Speaker 1: normally that wouldn't Why would that matter, Like, it sounds
Speaker 1: insane to me to worry about that.
Speaker 2: It's your thing that you're getting like a sense of
Speaker 2: purpose out of it. Might just be a team, but
Speaker 2: it's it's all so about the happiness of your son
Speaker 2: and wanting to make it work for him and feeling
Speaker 2: like you've accomplished it. It's you know, so.
Speaker 1: God, that just sounds so depressing and sad.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it does it all because mums
Speaker 2: spend their lives doing that.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend's mum the other day.
Speaker 1: It was really good chat because she said, you're in
Speaker 1: a stage of transition, and it's really unsettling when you're
Speaker 1: in a stage of transition, And.
Speaker 2: I said, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I am like because I still have obviously a very
Speaker 1: young son who really like I'm I've got two older
Speaker 1: kids and the younger one, but I'm still very much
Speaker 1: in the thick of mothering. Like there's no way I
Speaker 1: can't be mothering my kids. So I'm not in the
Speaker 1: next phase of where my kids are older and what
Speaker 1: is it now? But a part I feel like a
Speaker 1: part of my career that I've did for twenty years
Speaker 1: has come to an end. So I'm like, well, what's
Speaker 1: next there? My health is so bad that everything is
Speaker 1: on hold at the moment, and I'm trying it, and
Speaker 1: she's like, you almost got to look at it your
Speaker 1: health part, which I'm not airy fairy at all, but
Speaker 1: she's like, it's almost like a healing where you were
Speaker 1: healing stuff. I feel like I do have PTSD from
Speaker 1: losing mum, yeah, and also stuff I've gone through with
Speaker 1: my eldest son. Yeah, And I feel like I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to breathe for about four years and now
Speaker 1: it's almost like my body and everything has gone well, No,
Speaker 1: we're going to heal this and this is how we're
Speaker 1: going to do it. I have to think of it
Speaker 1: like that, otherwise it's too depressing where I'm like I
Speaker 1: can't do anything because my health is so bad and
Speaker 1: the job I loved is no longer there. But I
Speaker 1: hate that Sam will get home from a day of
Speaker 1: work and have all of this stuff to say about
Speaker 1: his day, and I'm like, well, I got in touch
Speaker 1: with Rosie about her son playing soccer and that's my
Speaker 1: fucking what I've done that day. I mean, I've done
Speaker 1: a million other things, but in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: doing something that resembles any form of work, but it's.
Speaker 2: All boring stuff to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all boring, so boring.
Speaker 2: I think you bang on when you say about PTSD
Speaker 2: around losing your mum. I remember when Stacy messaged me
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, that's it, this
Speaker 2: is She's going to completely fall apart. But you sort
Speaker 2: of would. I hate when people use the word strong,
Speaker 2: but you were so much stronger than I thought, and
Speaker 2: you carried on even right up until the end when
Speaker 2: she was sick. We were still podcasting, and I remember thinking,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you're doing it. Like work
Speaker 2: to me was the only relief I had when mum
Speaker 2: was sick. And I remember I started doing the project
Speaker 2: when Mum was sick, and it was the best thing
Speaker 2: for me because it was like a day, you know,
Speaker 2: I was probably doing it every week, a day where
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anything because it was new and
Speaker 2: my brain had to use, you know, I had to
Speaker 2: be on and learning things, and it was like such
Speaker 2: a mental break, and same as doing radio it was
Speaker 2: like hours where I couldn't think of anything because I
Speaker 2: had to be on and same as podcasting, so that
Speaker 2: was my only relief. And I remember when Mum died.
Speaker 2: Remember I'm always like I'm going to go into an asylum,
Speaker 2: like that's Iteah, my life's gonna end when Mum dies.
Speaker 2: I did so much therapy role Mum was sick though
Speaker 2: that I remember saying to my therapist like, I'm feeling
Speaker 2: so much stronger than I am, and she's like, you've
Speaker 2: done a lot of the hard work. Yeah, maybe you're
Speaker 2: just you're a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for,
Speaker 2: so you could work through it. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I do think that work is a major thing
Speaker 2: for you, mate. But I think that you've also got
Speaker 2: to look at it like just because something's ended doesn't
Speaker 2: mean they aren't exciting things to come. It's hard because
Speaker 2: it's almost like you've got to get it. There's no
Speaker 2: fire for anything, no, which is the hard thing. There's
Speaker 2: no feeling of passion for anything, but even just small
Speaker 2: moments in the day of learning, like I know it,
Speaker 2: like everybody in my life takes the piss out of
Speaker 2: me for how I google shit all the time. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think that's me trying to stimulate myself,
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to learn stuff because if I don't
Speaker 2: have that, I could never sit silent with my thoughts.
Speaker 2: That would be very dangerous for me to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think maybe filling just small pockets of time
Speaker 2: with I don't know what, but yeah, I know something.
Speaker 1: I mean like the other day, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start painting again because it's such great meditation. And
Speaker 1: I can't commit to doing anything because I'm too unreliable
Speaker 1: at the moment. Like the amount of times you and
Speaker 1: I have to swap our days podcasting because I'm unwell,
Speaker 1: it's ludicrous. Where if I was, you know, had a
Speaker 1: job doing something, there's no way I could at the moment,
Speaker 1: Like my health's too bad and I just have to
Speaker 1: have hope that I'll get that under control.
Speaker 2: But it's just it is.
Speaker 1: And but a lot of women I speak to at
Speaker 1: this age you are in this weird transition phase as well,
Speaker 1: of like is because we're middle aged and my friend's
Speaker 1: mum is like, they're kind of like mid life crisises
Speaker 1: like and I'm like, you fucking does feel a bit
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: And there's a pressure at this age like hang on,
Speaker 2: I'm getting older, yeah, times running out to do maybe
Speaker 2: stuff I want to do. Yeah, So you feel this pressure,
Speaker 2: but you're not able to sit and enjoy anything either.
Speaker 2: It's like this, And.
Speaker 1: It's also like you realize that's not going to happen
Speaker 1: in this lifetime. That's you know, when you're younger, everything's
Speaker 1: a possibility. Yeah, it doesn't feel like everything's a possibility now.
Speaker 1: So there's things that I'm like, oh, that's not going
Speaker 1: to happen in this lifetime. That's not gonna that's not
Speaker 1: where that's going to go in this life. Depends what
Speaker 1: it is, absolutely like it's not all doom and gloom,
Speaker 1: and I'm not one hundred years old, but there are
Speaker 1: certain things when you're realistic about it, that it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen now, Like, yeah, kids, you've
Speaker 1: got commitments. That's not in your reality.
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with my kids the other day
Speaker 2: in the car. You know, when you try and tell
Speaker 2: your kids about you know, like really do what you
Speaker 2: want with school, Like you've got so many choices, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's so exciting you can be anything you want.
Speaker 2: You can go down any career path you want. And
Speaker 2: I said to them, it's like if Dad and I
Speaker 2: decided we were smart enough to say, oh, we want
Speaker 2: to become doctors and lawyers. Right, let's just use that
Speaker 2: as an example. We couldn't go to school now and
Speaker 2: do it because we have a mortgage and we have
Speaker 2: to work, and that time has run out for that.
Speaker 2: But there's still things I think we can be excited about.
Speaker 2: It's just totally within certain parameters. And you've also accrued
Speaker 2: a lot of wisdom and a lot of skills that
Speaker 2: you don't even realize that you have. Do you remember
Speaker 2: when we did an episode years ago and we had
Speaker 2: to describe each other in three words?
Speaker 1: I do remember.
Speaker 2: One of the words I used for you was magnetic.
Speaker 2: That's something that you've just got. I don't have it
Speaker 2: anywhare It's in you. Yes, you do. You do. Anyone
Speaker 2: who spends time with you knows it. And I think
Speaker 2: even the health side of things will start to get
Speaker 2: better once you start feeling a bit better as well.
Speaker 2: I think you're always going to be a migraine sufferer.
Speaker 1: I think I am too.
Speaker 2: But this is like, but the level it is now. Yes,
Speaker 2: something has to shift. Fuck, I know. I read this
Speaker 2: thing the other day that was saying how there are
Speaker 2: so many different versions of you, and everyone sees a
Speaker 2: different version of you, but your version of yourself is
Speaker 2: the most unrealistic because you're judging yourself on your own thoughts.
Speaker 2: Nobody else is hearing you stuff. So you might be
Speaker 2: sitting at home going, fuck, the kids are pissing me off.
Speaker 2: I wish I could just get on a plane and
Speaker 2: fucking go somewhere else. Yes, you're judging yourself for feeling
Speaker 2: shit about that thought, but no one else can hear that.
Speaker 2: So people that have seen you are like, fuck, she's fun,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she cracks good jokes. Oh she comes
Speaker 2: up with shits so quick. They're not hearing your internal monologue.
Speaker 1: That's total, which I totally get. But I just anyway,
Speaker 1: clearly am not in the best place at the moment.
Speaker 2: But this, I.
Speaker 1: Guess is us It's just we never hide anything.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I feel really trapped. I feel really
Speaker 1: trapped in this chronic health issue. That is like when
Speaker 1: you say magnetic, I feel completely the opposite of that.
Speaker 1: I feel like my spark's gone and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm bringing everyone else's spark. I'm just putting that out
Speaker 1: as well. I'm like, this isn't me. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be this. Somebody go, do you want to go
Speaker 1: for a walk? I'm like, I can't. I'm in bed.
Speaker 1: And I'm normally so embarrassed to even say it because
Speaker 1: it's so often where now I'm like, fuck it, I
Speaker 1: don't even care. I'm so fucking um Well, it's not funny.
Speaker 2: You've got to let go of the feeling embarrassed about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it sounds silly to be. But then
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, God, I just just need to
Speaker 1: I want to do something else for my purpose, but
Speaker 1: I can't at the moment, like it's someone realistic for
Speaker 1: me to be able to do anything. So I just
Speaker 1: feel really really trapped. Yeah, and yeah, and that anyway,
Speaker 1: it's so boring, It's so unbelievably boring.
Speaker 2: It's not boring, it's just having a huge impact on you. Anyway.
Speaker 2: I think this is a point in time that things
Speaker 2: will get better. The number one thing out of everything
Speaker 2: is just getting your health under controlally, that's the number
Speaker 2: one thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm flying to Sydney in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: to see like a professor and stuff. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: my anxiety around that is where it's bad, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm gonna be well enough
Speaker 1: to get on the plane to go and see this
Speaker 1: person who you have to see face to face the
Speaker 1: first Otherwise I could just zoom, but I have to
Speaker 1: get there, and so I'm like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be able to you know. Or Sam's like the biggest
Speaker 1: Geelong supporter you've ever seen, and it's like they're playing
Speaker 1: in Melbourne and he just looks at me. He's like, Ah,
Speaker 1: won't go because I can't. I can't say yeah, go
Speaker 1: because I get sick. And then what we do we
Speaker 1: do with the kids? Like there's no plans that can
Speaker 1: be made in our life at the moment, like none.
Speaker 1: This poor guy is stuck with this fucking woman who
Speaker 1: is you just can't rely on for anything at the moment.
Speaker 2: Listen. I think I heard Kaitling Brook say this in
Speaker 2: a podcast once and it's so true. She said, it's
Speaker 2: like when people say for better or worse in sickness
Speaker 2: and in health, you don't actually really think.
Speaker 1: No way I would have left him so long ago.
Speaker 1: If it was wrong, mate, you wouldn't have It's pretty
Speaker 1: fucking grim for him when I'm like, he'll just go
Speaker 1: to text I'm in bed, and it's almost like he's
Speaker 1: just got on repeat. I'm sorry, babe, don't know what
Speaker 1: to say, like.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know you listen, you wouldn't you wouldn't have
Speaker 2: left him. That's what love is. But there's also you know,
Speaker 2: it's annoying. It's probably annoying for him, so annoying, but
Speaker 2: it's annoying for you. You've been through times where he's
Speaker 2: been annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of this consistently long fuck. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: got to talk about something else before this podcasting. I
Speaker 1: don't reckon anyone's listening now, of course they are.
Speaker 2: You know how many people would be feeling the same way.
Speaker 2: This is a very very complicated time in the lives
Speaker 2: of women our age.
Speaker 1: Yeah it so, you know, what have you got?
Speaker 2: What are you? Well, let's kick it up to something
Speaker 2: really stupid. Yeah. I only recently found out, and this
Speaker 2: is embarrassing that sinkholes are a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, did you think they were just in the movies?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What I thought they were. I think I thought when
Speaker 2: I saw them. Oh, it must have been a collapse
Speaker 2: of some sort, but not like a natural thing that
Speaker 2: could occur at any time anywhere.
Speaker 1: Pretty wild. Fuck Like, unless you saw one, it's hard
Speaker 1: for your mind to Like, I don't feel pictures give
Speaker 1: it a justice.
Speaker 2: Do you know what they actually are?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm no geologis, I don't really get it.
Speaker 2: But it's something about just under the surface of the ground,
Speaker 2: something about water being trapped in there not being able
Speaker 2: to get out, and then it all goes soft and
Speaker 2: it just opens up right into as we've seen these
Speaker 2: huge holes. Yes, you know, the biggest one ever recorded
Speaker 2: was in China. It was six hundred and sixty two
Speaker 2: meters down, down down, Like does he sink hole? Deep down? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: All right, fucking here comes word police again. You mean
Speaker 2: deep not down? God, I was thinking length wise but
Speaker 2: you were but deep. Yeah. Wow, that's a long way down.
Speaker 1: And so then what's at the bottom of it?
Speaker 2: Just earth? Just earth? And then don't think how far
Speaker 2: down is because you know they say under us is water.
Speaker 2: How far down is the water?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How far down? Do you have to drill? Shit?
Speaker 1: Like that just weirds me out. I just prefer to
Speaker 1: stick my head into the sinkhole ground and you go.
Speaker 2: It's too hard. And I think you know when people
Speaker 2: use that expression like, oh my god, I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 2: I just wish the ground would open up and swallow me.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, don't say that, actually.
Speaker 1: Could How did you find out that it is real?
Speaker 2: Because I think I saw again on Instagram a vision
Speaker 2: of a sinkhole that it opened up somewhere and people
Speaker 2: were like getting out and getting real close to it
Speaker 2: to look and take photos. And I was like, is
Speaker 2: this like a thing that could just happen anywhere? So
Speaker 2: I googled what is a sinkhole? Right? And then I
Speaker 2: started reading and then it's just another thing speaking of
Speaker 2: anxiety to be anxious about it, yes, but speaking of
Speaker 2: weird ways that you could die. Sometimes I look through
Speaker 2: my phone and in one of my one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty nine tabs I have open in my phone because
Speaker 2: sometimes I see something and I think I'll save that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could use it to talk about on the
Speaker 2: podcast or whatever. Was a headline from twenty and twenty one,
Speaker 2: and the headline was Malawi man dies of excessive orgasm
Speaker 2: after visiting sex worker. Oh wow, this is not like
Speaker 2: one of those bullshit headlines. So listen to this. This
Speaker 2: thirty five year old guy called Charles Majawa, he visited
Speaker 2: a sex worker and things were apparently going very well
Speaker 2: for him. When he got to the finale, he got
Speaker 2: so excited that the blood vessels in his brain burst
Speaker 2: and he fell unconscious and died. So on his official
Speaker 2: cause of death, the post mortem report says he died
Speaker 2: of excessive orgasm. Fuck of his life? Can you believe that?
Speaker 2: And then at the bottom of the article, they cited
Speaker 2: this study that was saying that as much as people
Speaker 2: say having regular sex is good for you, that there
Speaker 2: was some study that was done in twenty sixteen that said,
Speaker 2: especially for men over a certain age I don't know
Speaker 2: what that age was, but not elderly, having sex once
Speaker 2: a week or more actually heightens your risk of cardiovascular problems.
Speaker 2: Like during sex. I was like, oh my god. I
Speaker 2: read it to Mark and He's like, no, buying it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's bullshit. You'll believe anything.
Speaker 1: Imagine that poor sex worker though, going oh my god,
Speaker 1: this guy has just died. Imagine just like are you
Speaker 1: all right? And then just nothing out of all the
Speaker 1: ways you want to die. You don't like his family
Speaker 1: now know that he died from a big spoof, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people and a lot of people,
Speaker 2: but I think quite a few people have gone that way. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm sure Matthew McConaughey says his dad died died while
Speaker 2: he was having sex with his mum. I think he
Speaker 2: had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: That is just so awful, isn't it. Would you prefer
Speaker 1: to die on the toilet like alvastit or die during sex?
Speaker 2: During sex?
Speaker 1: I think, and everyone knows, Yeah, I'd rather that, Nah.
Speaker 2: Because on the toilet again, yeah, you think of who
Speaker 2: it's so like it's the most undignified but also very common,
Speaker 2: Like people have heart attacks on the toilet all the time,
Speaker 2: with the straining and whatever. Oh my god, And we've
Speaker 2: circled right back to shit. All right, everyone, we're out
Speaker 2: of here. A little weirder podcast.
Speaker 1: You never know what you're going to get. I love
Speaker 1: that we write down let's talk about this, this, this
Speaker 1: and this, and then we didn't get to any of
Speaker 1: it ever. Thanks for listening. We love that you guys
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Speaker 2: And we'll chat to you soon. I love you.