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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to She Rises, Freaky Friday, Go Secrets, Horror Scanning,

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Speaker 2: Mysterios Wild. Hello everybody, welcome to Freaky Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite host.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie and Tatiana.

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Speaker 1: And today I actually haven't read the story, and neither

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Speaker 1: have you, so.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. So today's submission goes a little

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Speaker 2: like this, and brace yourself. It's a bit of a story.

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Speaker 2: So this is my story of a stalker. It's still

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Speaker 2: somewhat ongoing. When we moved into our house, we were

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Speaker 2: told the house in complex behind us was a retirement village.

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Speaker 2: On our first night, we were very quickly realized that

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Speaker 2: it was a Department of Housing complex. The men in

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Speaker 2: the house directly behind us, we always thought was odd,

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Speaker 2: always smoking some kind of drug, listening to horrible music,

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Speaker 2: and dressing up in all kinds of weird things. He

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Speaker 2: would always be wanking on his balcony when I was

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Speaker 2: in my kitchen. He can see directly into or out

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Speaker 2: the back. I never thought anything of it, just that

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Speaker 2: he was a lonely person.

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Speaker 1: I never thought anything of it. While she's baking her

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Speaker 1: kids muffins, Oh my god, stuff. Oh yes.

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Speaker 2: One day he had a pretty violent outburst wear our

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Speaker 2: neighbor's two doors up. His neighbor was underneath him. The

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Speaker 2: police were called, and I decided to do some detective

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Speaker 2: work to see what he was charged with. I found

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Speaker 2: him on the court listings, had his full name, and

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Speaker 2: decided to do some good old Facebook stalking. There I

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Speaker 2: came across with pictures of me that he had taken. Oh.

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Speaker 2: He had written poems and songs about me, handwritten conversations

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Speaker 2: me and my husband had out the back. He knew

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Speaker 2: my kids' names, referred to being married to me for

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Speaker 2: seven years, the amount of time we had been living here.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: He had also made reference to being homicidal and having weapons.

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Speaker 2: We phoned the police straight away, who took it seriously.

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Speaker 2: They checked his house and he didn't have any weapons,

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Speaker 2: but he had stopped taking his psychotic meds. Is an

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Speaker 2: ice addict, and they admitted him to hospital. He broke

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Speaker 2: three weeks. What they did find him, they got him

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Speaker 2: his meds. He was also told no more waking on

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: For me, there wasn't much the police could do. They

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Speaker 2: said that I could press charges for stalking and harassment

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Speaker 2: and get an AVO to stop him posting pictures. But

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Speaker 2: I need to face him in court, so I decided

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Speaker 2: against it. We did what we could to block his

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Speaker 2: line and vision into the house, but the minute a

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Speaker 2: light goes on, I go outside, all the curtains are open.

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Speaker 2: He is looking. He has seemed to back off posting online, though, this,

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Speaker 2: along with a heap of other things the last year,

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Speaker 2: sent me into a mental breakdown. I honestly felt ashamed

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Speaker 2: and embarrassed of the situation. I did a lot of

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Speaker 2: inner work. Ashy, you have honestly helped me through some

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Speaker 2: of my darkest days, and I honestly got through it

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Speaker 2: by finding empathy for him, Like, what would this person

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Speaker 2: have had to go through to end up like this?

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Speaker 2: He must be so alone. And I remember my therapist

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Speaker 2: who started seeing when all of this went down, was

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Speaker 2: absolutely astounded that empathy is what I turned to.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so many things to say. Good on you for

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Speaker 1: turning to empathy. I commend you on that because that

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Speaker 2: That's an incredible skill.

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Speaker 1: And she's children, that is scary. I would love to

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Speaker 1: know if there's ever a conversation about moving if it's possible, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be so scared to live there. Maybe it's an

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Speaker 2: I thought of discovering the Facebook messages and poems and

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Speaker 2: to you for seven years. Is created a whole story,

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Speaker 2: a narrative around the life that you guys have lived together.

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Speaker 1: He must actually believe it, Like I'm not sure what's

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Speaker 1: must actually really believe that there are a couple.

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Speaker 2: That's terrifying who's obviously attracted to you And makes sense? No, right,

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Speaker 2: because what makes sense about all the wanking. It's like

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Speaker 2: he wasn't just wanking on the porch right at the

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Speaker 2: like he out of you, Oh my god. Obviously maybe

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Speaker 1: I just can't even I don't know why I'm laughing,

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Speaker 1: But a guy wanking on I just know what I

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Speaker 1: and be so angry, would you, Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 1: I just would be so mad and disgusted. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: Your muma cub would come out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd be really angry and really disgusted

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Speaker 1: and the thought of like him doing that over me.

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Speaker 1: But what if he's doing over the children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's a different story, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm curious what her husband thought and did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're probably scared of him, actually if he

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Speaker 2: And obviously an ice addict or math adict all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe I wouldn't go angry on drugs.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to be really cause the way that you

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Speaker 2: would behave in that situation, that's true. I feel like

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Speaker 2: you definitely would say something because it was a time

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Speaker 2: we were in the gym and there was this creepy

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Speaker 2: guy tell the story all the time, my god, and

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Speaker 2: to watch my form, and I'll see him lock eyes

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Speaker 2: And I just remember telling Ashy I was like, this

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Speaker 2: guy gives me the absolute dick. It's so creepy. And

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Speaker 2: we were training the gym one time. We were doing

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Speaker 2: see his reflection, and he was staring at us, smiling

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Speaker 2: with teeth, like the biggest grin with teeth, not even

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Speaker 2: a little smirk. It was a big smile with deep

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't even about to do weights. He kind

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Speaker 2: Worst, but I'm so glad you said something in that moment.

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Speaker 1: And she said two things. I said, can you stop

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were just having this internal conversation back

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Speaker 2: and forth as we're doing step ups. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: We were just say, there's that other guy in the gym,

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Speaker 1: that older guy. Yes, I hadn't noticed him until you

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Speaker 1: pointed him out, and he's something at me. He's looking

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Speaker 1: But this guy's older and he I don't think he

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Speaker 2: He's a bit awkward. Yeah, I've caught him staring once before,

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Speaker 2: you were in like a you had your legs spread

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Speaker 2: and you would no sound that sounds bad. No, you

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Speaker 2: Of an intimate kind of poposing over and you were here,

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Speaker 2: I was here, and I was looking at him, looking

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Speaker 2: You know there was one time it was in that

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Speaker 2: and I was like, are you.

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Speaker 1: Not getting the hint?

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Speaker 2: Like are you okay?

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Speaker 1: And see you are?

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm more fast at my view.

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh hi, yeah, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Oh the other guy, oh my god. One more story.

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Speaker 1: That was filling up his shaker and you were doing

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Speaker 1: are you right? But he didn't spill it, and I

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Speaker 1: just held back for that one. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: So uncomfortable of course, like your dad would not do that.

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Speaker 1: My dad, yeah, oh, not a respectful women that you

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Speaker 1: just would never catch him staring at a woman like that.

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Speaker 1: Why can not all men just think, oh, I've got

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Speaker 2: It's funny because there's a whole variety of men on

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Speaker 2: the spectrum. It's like, you know, we have the creepy

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Speaker 2: guy who was scaring and smiling, and then you know

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Speaker 2: we have people who were like, oh, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to make women feel uncomfortable, so I avoid looking at

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Speaker 1: Want to be the creepy guy in the y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so the whole variety of people.

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Speaker 1: But this story is crazy. Thanks for sending it in.

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Speaker 1: And I'm oh, I had a store when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: when I used to work with a supermarket. They had

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Speaker 1: to ban him from the supermarket. He started buying my

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Speaker 1: little gifts. And I was young. I didn't really think

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Speaker 1: too much of it. I just thought, oh, man, it's

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Speaker 1: interested in me. And he wasn't old, creepy old. I

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Speaker 1: was probably fifteen or six and he maybe was in

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Speaker 1: his forty a big age gap. Yeah, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: bad looking, jog and ized car. But he started giving

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Speaker 1: me gifts, and then he started writing me letters. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Once again I was a bit flatted, I think because

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Speaker 1: I was not an attractive teenager. And wow, this man's

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Speaker 1: my boss started to notice that he was waiting for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the police can't really do something with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Creepy freaky Friday. But we love it, we love to

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Speaker 2: Yes, and absolutely as well with this submission that just

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Speaker 1: Updates. Yeah, please love an update.

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Speaker 1: I hope it gets less and less or he moves

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