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Speaker 1: Gooday, welcome to Healthy Ish. Yes you have tuned into

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Speaker 1: the Body and Cell podcast with me for the City

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Speaker 1: Hallie and also in the hot seat today as this

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Speaker 1: Epp Jobs on a Friday is our digital editor Holly Berkleman,

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Speaker 1: and we are dissecting the three hottest topics in the

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Speaker 1: healthy man As world this week. Holly, welcome to healthy Hello.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm home over?

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Speaker 3: Are you well?

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Speaker 2: Well? Well? What did you get up to last night?

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Speaker 1: I just drank one too many cocktails.

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Speaker 2: That I'll do it? What type of cocktails?

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Speaker 1: Oh, April sprits and a few others thrown in? We had.

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Speaker 1: I had the best frid and your Christmas girls dinner

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Speaker 1: and yeah, Tuesday night was the only night we could

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Speaker 1: all get together, but perhaps not the best night.

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Speaker 3: It was a bold choice for a girl's night, but

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Speaker 3: I love it. It's nice a midweek special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is a big week hangover?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm going well, I'm still on my pilate's beat. I

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Speaker 3: got up early and went to the beach before work

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Speaker 3: this morning, so I'm going well.

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Speaker 2: I feel good. I feel tired, but I feel good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So what's happening in your world this week?

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Speaker 2: So my pick of the week I saw Wicked last night.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, the pick of the week is it took

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Speaker 3: twelve years to make the Wicked film, and all people

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Speaker 3: can talk about is Ariana Grande's appearance.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it took twelve I know, not.

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Speaker 3: Actually twelve years of filming, but in terms of like

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Speaker 3: they've been talking about it for such a long time

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Speaker 3: and like you know, big Hollywood blockbusters, it's left a

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Speaker 3: huge impression on those who have watched it. But unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: discussions around the incredible performances, the great leaps in representation,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, have been eclipsed by ongoing chat around Ariana

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Speaker 3: Grande's appearance.

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Speaker 1: So tiresome.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this online?

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Speaker 1: I have?

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Speaker 2: It is just relentless.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So since we get promo first started, which was so

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Speaker 3: long ago. Now it was a couple of years ago, now, haven't.

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Speaker 1: I did read something that they've been on the promo

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Speaker 1: tour for.

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Speaker 2: For like ten thousand years. It feels like absolutely love.

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Speaker 3: But since it was even first announced, there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of chat about whether Ariana was right for the role.

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Speaker 3: People said she was too much of a pop star,

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Speaker 3: she didn't have the right hair, she was too tanned,

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Speaker 3: and that there were other more deserving musical theater stars

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Speaker 3: who should have got the role. Fast forward to earlier

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Speaker 3: this year, when Imagery came out of Rianda with blonde

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Speaker 3: hair without her fake tan, people said she looked sick

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Speaker 3: and underweight, despite Ariana herself saying that she was the

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Speaker 3: happiest and the healthiest that she's ever been. So it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like she can't win here, really, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's worth noting that Ariana auditioned reportedly

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Speaker 3: five times to that role. One such audition went for

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Speaker 3: more than three hours, and so she certainly earned her

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Speaker 3: position there. And she's got an incredible voice, like really,

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Speaker 3: no one can an exquisite voice. Yeah, no one can

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Speaker 3: argue with that.

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Speaker 1: I just have to interject there. I am deep. My

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Speaker 1: six years just loves Arina Christmas Carols.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet.

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Speaker 1: I just have her on repeat in my head at

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Speaker 1: the moment.

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Speaker 2: She is incredible.

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Speaker 3: Even when she's saying it's you and Gallie, she nails

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Speaker 3: it every time. And then as for her appearance, like

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Speaker 3: Ariana Grande has spent two years vigorously rehearsing and you know,

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Speaker 3: filming all this choreography on set and embarking on this

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Speaker 3: career defining role, doing the press tour for like eighteen months,

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Speaker 3: as you said, or however long. And it's safe to

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Speaker 3: say there's been a lot going on for her.

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Speaker 2: You know, she got divorced as well.

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Speaker 3: There's all sorts of things happening, and now that the

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Speaker 3: film is out, whether you're a die hard theater person

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Speaker 3: or not, there's no doubt that she did a great job.

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Speaker 3: Yet people just still can't stop talking about what she

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Speaker 3: looks like, specifically how thin she is, the eyelashes she

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Speaker 3: wears in the film, and so on. And I think

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Speaker 3: that the piece does a really great job at examining

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Speaker 3: just how unfair and tiresome this commentary is, especially given

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Speaker 3: it just wouldn't be happening if she were a man.

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Speaker 1: No, the patriarchy again exactly.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Bailey, for example, who's also fantastic in this. He

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Speaker 3: you know, he's got a bit of a spray tond

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Speaker 3: in the film, his hair is a bit lighter. But

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Speaker 3: it's not been a peep about that, No, not a peep. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So it's worth a read, I think, especially if you've

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Speaker 3: been buying into those discussions about wicked of late.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for showing I like that one. I want

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Speaker 1: to well talk to you about the next big superfood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hit me with it. I should be eating it right now,

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Speaker 1: but to make myself feel a little bit better rather

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Speaker 1: than viam and water I have sitting next to me

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Speaker 1: on the desk, Yum, sea moss. It seems everyone but

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Speaker 1: me is into eating sea moss for better health.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm certainly not eating it, but I have seen it

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Speaker 3: on smoothie menus.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is all over TikTok.

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Speaker 2: A band word in this room.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know what sea moss is. It's a

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Speaker 1: kind of seaweed, particularly red algae, and it's usually bought

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Speaker 1: in a jill form, so you can add it to

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Speaker 1: smoothies or recipes, or you can actually eat it as

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Speaker 1: is yuck. Wellness influencers and others acclaim seamoss products have

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Speaker 1: a plethora of health benefits, things like supporting brain immune function,

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Speaker 1: protecting against viruses and other microbes, and helping promote skin

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Speaker 1: health and most importantly, enhances mood and focus.

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it does sound like the perfect superfood, doesn't

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Speaker 1: It does?

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Speaker 2: But don't they all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But like other products, of course, we don't know

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Speaker 1: how many of these nutrients are lost during the preparation

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Speaker 1: of the product, and those that remain could be present

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Speaker 1: in relatively low qualities. First question mark, Okay, second question mark.

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Speaker 1: Recent studies have reviewed the biological properties of the main

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Speaker 1: sea moss species and suggest these species may have anti inflammatory, antioxidant,

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Speaker 1: anti cancer, anti diabetic, and probodic properties.

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Speaker 3: Wow, anti cancer is claims, Yeah, but the may may

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Speaker 3: how are capitals.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of this research comes from studies doning

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Speaker 1: test tubes or using cell and animal models, so we

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Speaker 1: should not assume that these health benefits that all these

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Speaker 1: TikTokers et cetera, et cetera claiming would be the same

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Speaker 1: in humans. So at the moment, there is actually very

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Speaker 1: little evidence people who consume seamoss will experience any of

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Speaker 1: the health benefits I just outlined above. So I'd say

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Speaker 1: save your money. Sea moss is actually quite expensive. A

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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy mil jar costs around twenty five bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it lasts about seven to ten days. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think you better off buying a piece of fruit.

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Speaker 2: Seven to ten days that is not long for No.

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Speaker 2: Five to thirty.

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Speaker 1: Dollars, So buy an extra piece of fruit, throw that

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Speaker 1: in smoothie instead.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good to me.

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Speaker 1: No seama super pain. No anyway, just quickly before we go,

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Speaker 1: give us a quick rundown of the most clicked story

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Speaker 1: of the week.

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Speaker 3: Top clicker this week was the world's healthiest meat deemed

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Speaker 3: better for you than some fruit and vegetables. So we've

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Speaker 3: been told to steer clear of fatty meats for years

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Speaker 3: to meet our daily nutrition goals. But according to research,

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Speaker 3: you might want to think about swapping your pork crackling

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Speaker 3: for sweet potatoes during Christmas lunch this year because a

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Speaker 3: study published in the Plus one Journal ranked one hundred

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Speaker 3: raw foods based on their nutritional value. Now, this doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean you need to eat them raw, it's just looking

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Speaker 3: at them in their raw state. And interestingly, pork fat

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Speaker 3: was one of the healthiest foods, ranking eighth and beating

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Speaker 3: many fruit and vegetables.

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Speaker 2: On the list.

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Speaker 1: This kind of blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: It blows my mind too.

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Speaker 3: And sweet potatoes would you believe it ranked a hundreds

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Speaker 3: right down the bottom of the list.

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Speaker 1: Do you like eating pork fat?

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Speaker 3: No? I was raised by vegetarians I'm not a huge

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Speaker 3: meat eater. They fed us meat, but I just you know,

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Speaker 3: not cooking for myself, and I don't eat a huge

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Speaker 2: So no, I'm not a big pork girl.

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Speaker 1: Quite much. Rather a sweet potato than pork.

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Speaker 2: I love sweet potato. They're fantastic, so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but well maybe pork fat doesn't deserve the flak

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Speaker 3: it's got for so long, and you can eat it

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Speaker 3: guilt free this Christmas as.

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Speaker 1: You should eat pork fat not c mos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah actually yeah, and big question mark on so on

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Speaker 3: sweet potatoes.

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Speaker 1: Any anyway, Holly, I'll see you next week when I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling healthy, not the ish.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you please, I'll see you then. Bye.

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Speaker 1: of the above, I will leave a link to those

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