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Speaker 1: On scorn litles Oscodia. This is the Reader Panahi Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Pannehy Show coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight the PM under five. For an offhand remark,

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Speaker 2: are we becoming too precious? A sub Australian council looking

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Speaker 2: to change a street name in the interests of diversity

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Speaker 2: and inclusion. Army Horowitz joins me after going under cover

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Speaker 2: with pro Palestinian activists. He will not believe what they

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Speaker 2: said to him when they thought he.

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Speaker 3: Was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Also joining me tonight, but greatful to see in Pima

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Speaker 2: and Stephanie Bastian and an extended version of Left. He's

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Speaker 2: losing it.

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Speaker 4: President Biden, you have presidential immunity. Get Elon musk the

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Speaker 4: out of our country.

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Speaker 1: And do it now first.

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has copped fierce backlash after he made

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Speaker 2: this quip during question time yesterday, where he asked whether

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Speaker 2: Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor has Tourette syndrome, that.

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Speaker 5: They carry on with the idea that where have you

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Speaker 5: got Tourett's or something.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you see there. Bamble, bamble, bamborder.

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Speaker 2: Are we drawing, mister speaker, are.

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Speaker 6: We draw, Are we drin?

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Speaker 1: Are we joining apologize?

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Speaker 2: As you heard, he realized his mistake almost instantly, but

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Speaker 2: check out the reaction of his colleagues. Minister for Youth

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Speaker 2: and Ali and Well she had to stop herself from laughing.

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Speaker 2: She knew she wasn't supposed to be laughing, while Deputy

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Speaker 2: PM Richard Marser he didn't know where to look. He

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Speaker 2: was just wanting to be somewhere else. This incident prompted

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Speaker 2: widespread criticism from the Coalition and disability advocates as well,

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Speaker 2: and Liberal MP Chris Kruther, who himself has Tourette syndrome,

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Speaker 2: tweeted this. He said, this is absolutely disgraceful by PM

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Speaker 2: Primus now alb and Easy. He should apologize to all

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Speaker 2: with Tourette's syndrome. And he linked this speech that he

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Speaker 2: made in Parliament back in twenty sixteen where he spoke

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Speaker 2: about what it's like being a politician with Tourett's.

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Speaker 1: I have curettes.

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Speaker 7: Tourette's syndrome is a neurological disorder. It consists of vocal

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Speaker 7: and motor tics that is rapid, repetitive and involuntary muscle movements.

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Speaker 7: For example, I have blinking head jerking, repetitive limb movements

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Speaker 7: and throat clearing. They are irresistible and eventually it must

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Speaker 7: be performed. Curettes is often misportrayed by the media has

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Speaker 7: been swearing or coppolalia, but this is experienced by only

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Speaker 7: a small subset of those affected.

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Speaker 2: Now it must be noted the PM has apologized again.

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Speaker 8: I made comments that were unkind and hurtful. I knew

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Speaker 8: it was wrong as soon as I made the comment.

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Speaker 8: I apologized and I would do as soon as I

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Speaker 8: said it.

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Speaker 7: But it shouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary, how

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Speaker 2: do you see this saga? The Prime Minister's apologized more

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Speaker 2: than once. I don't know if he's just getting frustrated

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Speaker 2: and he's lashing out, he's not thinking things through. But

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Speaker 2: do you think the reaction has been perhaps a little

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Speaker 2: bit over the top as well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably so.

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Speaker 9: But of course, you know, he's from that part of

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Speaker 9: politics that actually wants to be sexercised as homophobic point,

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Speaker 9: they throw all these things at everybody else, so he

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Speaker 9: kind of brought it on himself. The Blake's been in

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Speaker 9: the Parliament for what twenty eight years? Some would say

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Speaker 9: too long, but he's been there a long time. We

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Speaker 9: were both elected on the same day in nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 9: so I've been out a lot longer than I was in.

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Speaker 9: But you know, he really should know better, but he

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Speaker 9: practices this kind of thought police approach the things, so

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Speaker 9: he's just left himself vulnerable. And look, yeah, the reaction's

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Speaker 9: gone a bit ott, but good on Chris Kruther. I

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Speaker 9: did not know about that speech. Still you've just shown

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Speaker 9: us and look I feel for that, but it's a

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Speaker 9: full disclosure from him. Good on him, but d in

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Speaker 9: the end, everything that's said in the parliament irresponsible for

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Speaker 9: the Prime Minister is an incredibly experienced member of Parliament.

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Speaker 9: He's under pressure. He does not know which way to

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Speaker 9: jump on just about every issue, and he decides to

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Speaker 9: think that by picking on somebody and throwing in a

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Speaker 9: certain disability, that's a funny way of acting.

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Speaker 1: It's really not good enough. So that part I get,

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Speaker 1: But can we just move on now.

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Speaker 9: I'd like him actually to take some value based judgments

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Speaker 9: about a couple of the really big issues in our

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Speaker 9: society right now, how his government is destroying a lot

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Speaker 9: of people with and without turets when it comes to

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Speaker 9: the economic management our power prices. The whole moral issue

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Speaker 9: associated with which side to be on in the Israeli

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Speaker 9: conflict against everything. I mean, they're fighting the war for

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Speaker 9: the Western world. This black doesn't know where to jump

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Speaker 9: on most things, so any understandably he's going to jump

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Speaker 9: the wrong way on that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Just too stupid for words.

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Speaker 2: Now let's turn our attention to the Queensland election, which

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Speaker 2: is just a couple of weeks away. But judging by

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Speaker 2: this compilation from our local paper, The Brisbane Times, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure how engaged some Queenslanders are with the coming election.

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Speaker 10: Man is no, no, I don't really watch do you

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Speaker 10: know this man? It's no idea would be our current

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Speaker 10: pre Do you know this man?

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Speaker 1: Something fully.

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Speaker 2: Gary that was filmed just twenty two days before the

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Speaker 2: October twenty sixth election. Does that lack of knowledge among

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Speaker 2: some of your fellow Queenslanders concern you?

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Speaker 9: Look, Queenslanders are pretty clever, reader, So I don't suggest

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Speaker 9: for a moment that somehow or other we're not engaged. Look,

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Speaker 9: actually we're bored to tears. This is the most boring

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Speaker 9: election campaign I've ever seen, No matter what happens on

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Speaker 9: the twenty sixth of October. A government with a lefty

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Speaker 9: bend is going to be elected. That's just the simple reality.

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Speaker 9: I think people are over it. They don't know what

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Speaker 9: either side stands for. They're mumbling out policies here and

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Speaker 9: slogans there, but there's really just no.

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Speaker 1: Instinctive kind of plan for the future.

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Speaker 9: And we've got no vision about where Queensland is going

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Speaker 9: to be a generation from now, and there's no excitement.

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Speaker 9: I've seen change of government elections. I'm not sure we're

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Speaker 9: seeing one in Queensland right now. Even though all the

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Speaker 9: pundits say there's going to be a change of government.

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Speaker 9: It's probably going to be a loveless landslide against labor,

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Speaker 9: but I think there's a bit of a lucky dip

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Speaker 9: kind of outcome coming on the twenty sixth of October.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually terrified for.

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Speaker 9: The lack of the lack of interest that's there, but

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Speaker 9: it's because the politicians aren't earning any interest, and their

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Speaker 9: notoriety as well. It's just terminally boring, which is kind

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Speaker 9: of sad.

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Speaker 2: Really, you're right, and I get that I'm far away

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Speaker 8: I was.

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Speaker 2: I spent a few days there last week. But there's

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Speaker 2: a bit of the Victorian Libs about the Queensland liber Nationals.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like they don't want to actually stand for anything.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to be too different from Labor in

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Speaker 2: stand for something when you win. You want to actually

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Speaker 2: win because you had a policy platform you're proud of.

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Speaker 2: Now the Coalition is manning answers from Labor after it

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Speaker 2: was revealed that a visa was granted to Palestinian artists

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Speaker 2: Phays Alsani, even though this man has previously hosted members

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Speaker 2: of her mass and Islamic Palestinian Ghad at his art

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Speaker 2: institute in Gaza. Here is Immigration Minister Tony Burke. He

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Speaker 2: was asked about this in Parliament early today.

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Speaker 8: Has the visa for this individual been canceled?

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Speaker 5: The process for all of these visas for people who've

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Speaker 5: come from Palestine has been exactly the same for every

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Speaker 5: one of them. Between the Shadow Minister who asks the

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Speaker 5: question or the Director General of ASIO. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 5: I'm going to listen to the Director General of Asia.

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Speaker 5: The concept that we should abandon our security agencies and

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Speaker 5: defer instead to google searchers from the opposition is not

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Speaker 5: something this government will do.

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Speaker 2: Gary, How do you see it? Should we be confident

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Speaker 2: in the security services doing the appropriate checks here, even

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Speaker 2: though we know with some of these visas they prove

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Speaker 2: them within an hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I don't think we can be confident in

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Speaker 1: the minister. That's the reality.

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Speaker 9: When he was last the Immigration Minister was about twelve

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Speaker 9: hundred people came ashore in various boats and so forth.

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Speaker 1: So he hasn't got a good track record.

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Speaker 9: And the idea that he's actually saying, I've got no

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Speaker 9: instinct about this. I'm just going to defer it to

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Speaker 9: a public servant, even though it's a security agent person

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Speaker 9: worries me greatly.

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Speaker 1: I think that we have real reason.

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Speaker 9: To question who is coming and the terms under which

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Speaker 1: In and how.

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Speaker 9: That's frightening because there are people who have been waiting

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Speaker 9: for years who validly want to be here family reunion

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Speaker 9: or indeed bring skills to Australia and they can't get

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Speaker 9: approval this Immigration department. And I'm a former minister in

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Speaker 9: that department. It pains me to say it yet again.

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Speaker 9: But that department doesn't know how to do nation building anymore,

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Speaker 9: doesn't know how to make it possible for things to happen.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to decide.

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Speaker 9: They want to say, oh well, I'll say no, so

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Speaker 9: you can appeal and someone else can make the decision.

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Speaker 1: That's not what we want.

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Speaker 9: We need people with skills, with values that will actually

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Speaker 9: from within. And Tony Burke and Anthony Albanezi are not

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Speaker 2: Now, turning our attention to the US, just briefly, Elon

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Speaker 2: Musker sat down with a former Fox News host, Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 2: who was a wide ranging interview went for some time,

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Speaker 2: and this little tidbit about Jeffrey Epstein's client list got

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Speaker 2: my interest because it is remarkable that the names on

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Speaker 2: that least rich powerful people have never been exposed. There

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Speaker 2: seems to be no investigations that it's all forgotten about,

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Speaker 2: and Elon Musk is a theory about that.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think part of why Kamala is getting

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Speaker 11: so much support is that if Trump wins, that Efstein

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Speaker 11: clientless is going to become public. Yes, and some of

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Speaker 11: those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of that outcome.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that, Gary, Do you think

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Speaker 2: there are some nervous billionaires worried that Trump is going

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Speaker 2: to win and one of the focuses of his administration,

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Speaker 2: one of many, obviously, will be who was on that

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Speaker 2: list who was compromised by Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 9: Well, people have a lot to say about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 9: but he's kind of wizy wig, isn't he What you

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Speaker 9: see is what you get. I don't think Trump high,

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Speaker 9: it's anything. He's just so open. He said, I'll publish

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Speaker 9: the list of all the people that are on Epstein's

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Speaker 9: client list, and that is of course going to be

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Speaker 9: problematic to household names. Some of them may well be

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Speaker 9: in Hollywood, some of them may well be billionaires.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm very confident I'm not on

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Speaker 1: the list. Reader, That's all I know.

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Speaker 9: So look, you know, publish and be damned, I say

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Speaker 9: an Elon musk Well, I think he's.

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Speaker 1: A revelation to this election campaign.

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Speaker 9: This guy basically cares about America, as indeed does Donald Trump,

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Speaker 9: and I think those who are howling them down have got, potentially,

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Speaker 9: you know, something to hide. I want the swamp drained

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Speaker 9: and I want it so that it becomes a desert

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Speaker 2: Gary hard Grave, thanks for your time this evening. Joining

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Speaker 2: you're a proud South Australian these days, and I noticed

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Speaker 8: Well, We've got a couple of places in South Australia

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Speaker 8: They built a better Australia and they were recognized for this.

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Speaker 8: if we're going to be that sensitive, besides taking a

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Speaker 2: Filling the potholes with you, and I can almost guarantee

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Speaker 8: Well, it's misleading and deceptive. But he goes down in

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Speaker 8: mister Bone, he comes up every week in your program.

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Speaker 12: He's won't come.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, he's a generous democratic.

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Speaker 2: He has an invitation, open invitation, mister Bowen, come here,

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Speaker 2: we'll go backwards and forwards. It will be very very

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Speaker 2: It would be very polite. There will be no angst whatsoever. Now,

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Speaker 13: The other side, as we often call it, This plan

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Speaker 8: Well, we have one hundred and fifty year record of

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Speaker 8: So what Bill Nay is doing is just showing that

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Speaker 8: It's appalling politics. And if Americans vote for Democrats on

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Speaker 2: Professor Plimer, always a pleasure to speak with you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Still to come left is losing ad class. Army Horowizt

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Speaker 3: You will not believe your ears. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for lefties losing it and a reminder

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Speaker 2: But then they go and pull something like this. Here

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Speaker 2: is ABC deliberately and deceptively editing a clip that turns

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Speaker 2: Watch the original clip that they posted that was widely mocked,

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Speaker 2: See if you can spot the not so subtle difference.

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Speaker 3: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening.

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Speaker 14: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted

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Speaker 3: But it seems that Prime Minister net who is not listening.

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Speaker 14: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for

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Speaker 2: That second part wasn't even in the first and so

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Speaker 2: May now soon I'll be bringing you Kamala's top six

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Speaker 2: worst moments from the view today. But First, let's go

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Speaker 2: to this character again. This time he's boasting about making

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Speaker 15: My job involves multiple work sites, and that sometimes means

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Speaker 15: I'm ordering my drink. Oh, here's your change, ma'am. Ope, ma'am,

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Speaker 15: here's your coffee, your orders?

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Speaker 1: You ready?

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Speaker 16: Miss y'all.

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Speaker 15: The discomfort my colleagues experience seeing me out in the

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Speaker 2: To the lefty heartland of California, the one party state

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Speaker 2: He gave it a red hot go, but in the

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Speaker 2: end the mob wins. Let's check in on former MSNBC

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Speaker 2: US citizen Elon Musk. Yeah, this is really sane and normal.

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Speaker 4: Time to cancel all the contracts and reassess his immigration

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Speaker 4: President Biden, you have presidential immunity. Get Elon Musk the

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Speaker 2: Now to a mile teacher who is upset that only

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Speaker 17: One of my students, I'm a teenager, was ranting to

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Speaker 2: Here's another reminder that you don't hate the leftist media enough.

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Speaker 2: You think you do, but then you see this.

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Speaker 1: So the laughable Donald Trump took a bullet for democracy

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Speaker 2: And don't Antifa always live up to the opposite of

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Speaker 17: So we see that the fascist newspaper saying we are

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Speaker 2: Look, yes, we are here to celebrate the seven. As

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've waited long enough.

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Speaker 2: Let's see the horror that is Kamala Harris and the

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Speaker 2: To be honest, they're all bad. I just picked these randomly.

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Speaker 2: Coming in at number six was the introduction by Whoopee,

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Speaker 6: Please welcome back.

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Speaker 16: The next President United said, Oh my.

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Speaker 6: God, I'm so exciting.

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Speaker 2: And you thought that was bad. Watch the post interview

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm just basking in.

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Speaker 8: The light.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 2: She's basking in the light. I'm just happy to see

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Speaker 6: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Reason someone would vote for Donald Trump is if they

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Speaker 2: get bad information from other channels and watch Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: not along to this.

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Speaker 18: People are saying this could be the closest election in

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Speaker 18: a century. I personally cannot understand why anyone would vote

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Speaker 18: for him. A lot of it is I think he's

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Speaker 18: getting bad people are getting bad information from other channels.

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Speaker 18: But do you have an explanation for this at all?

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Speaker 2: Another terrible moment was this bit of gas lighting from

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Speaker 2: the View Ladies and Kamala where they blamed the man

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Speaker 2: who was tough on borders for the Biden Harris administration's

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Speaker 2: border crisis.

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Speaker 6: When you were here.

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Speaker 18: Last I asked about the border, which remains a top

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Speaker 18: issue to voters. And as you lately pointed out, the

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Speaker 18: former president blocked the strongest border security bill in decades.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they literally began dismantling every Trump era policy on

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Speaker 2: the border on and that's why they had record numbers

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Speaker 2: of the legal immigrants coming in. They recorded record numbers

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Speaker 2: every single year of the Biden Harris administration. And talking

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Speaker 2: about gas lighting, listen to Anna Novara blamed Trump for

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Speaker 2: the Biden Harris administrations wofle response to Hurricane Helene. Apparently

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Speaker 2: Trump pointing out the White House's failings is what's really dangerous,

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Speaker 2: not all the folks without food, water, shelter, who are

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Speaker 2: not getting the help they need.

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Speaker 16: What do you think the effect of these lies are

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Speaker 16: and why is he doing this?

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Speaker 14: It's profound and it is the height of irresponsibility and

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Speaker 14: frankly callousness. So lives are literally at stake right now.

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Speaker 2: We know Kamala and just about every person interviewed in

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Speaker 2: that region has spoken about how FEMA has failed them.

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Speaker 2: The worst moment though, of Kamala's appearance on the view,

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Speaker 2: when she's when she spoke the truth. That was the

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Speaker 2: worst moment because brace yourself, folks, unlikely that you're going

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Speaker 2: to see this sort of honesty again from her. This

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Speaker 2: is devastating.

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Speaker 16: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than

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Speaker 16: President Baden during the past four years?

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Speaker 14: There is done a thing that comes to mind in

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Speaker 14: terms of and I've been a part of most of

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Speaker 14: the decisions that have had impact.

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Speaker 2: Nothing comes to mind. I thought she was the change candidate.

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Speaker 2: She was going to turn the page. Now have you

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Speaker 2: noticed how none of the Free Palestine protess has ever

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Speaker 2: chant against her mass against the atrocities of October seven?

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Speaker 2: Could it be that some of them agree with the

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Speaker 2: barbarity that was unleashed.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what.

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Speaker 2: Happens when a Jewish documentary filmmaker Donza Kafia and goes

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Speaker 2: under cover at a rally.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that October seventh was too much?

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Speaker 1: It was just everything?

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Speaker 6: So October seven is one hundred percent justified. We went

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Speaker 6: to the more October seventh.

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Speaker 19: Do you think October seventh actually was the Israeli government

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Speaker 19: killing its own people to justify the.

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Speaker 6: Invasion of Gaza?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, because it's a huge campaign and they need they

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Speaker 8: need an excuse.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's Army horrowedz. And it seems that in their

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Speaker 2: own leftist circles, these activists freely admit to believing Israel

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Speaker 2: was behind the October seven attack.

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Speaker 19: The Israelis actually did it as a false flag operations, I.

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Speaker 17: Think, Yeah, I think a lot of I think a

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Speaker 17: lot of it was self infected.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, they killed their own people and Israel killed their

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Speaker 19: old people to justify the guy's invasion.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, do you think.

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Speaker 19: That October seventh was actually committed by Israel?

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Speaker 20: So yeah, AHAs doesn't have the kind of military weapons

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Speaker 20: that would have incinerated houses and you know, the kind

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Speaker 20: of destruction.

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Speaker 6: They don't have that kind.

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Speaker 20: Of sophisticated weaponry. So it is most definitely Israel that

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Speaker 20: did it, you know, So there's.

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Speaker 2: No denying that sophisticated weaponry of what like matches a fire.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army,

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Speaker 2: how did it feel to march with these people who

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Speaker 2: want to see the destruction of the only Jewish state,

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Speaker 2: who some of them defend what happened on October seven?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, By the way, I gotta say, I like my

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Speaker 19: terror sheik. Look, what do you think I think I

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Speaker 19: should adopt it going forward now to come on the show.

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Speaker 2: Look, the reason why I did I will surprise people.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no necessary. You know what, I'm always looking to zig.

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Speaker 19: One of the people think I'm gonna zag, that's my brand. Look,

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Speaker 19: the reason why I did this is because I want

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Speaker 19: to show these people stand for who they are. But

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Speaker 19: the media portrays them as simply people who feel bad

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Speaker 19: for the guys ins or being put upon by these

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Speaker 19: rarely war machines. They simply want to help the Palestinians

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Speaker 19: to get aid and to get help. That's how they're

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Speaker 19: portrayed by the media. I spent all day with these people,

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Speaker 19: ask him the same questions, and I didn't get a

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Speaker 19: single person who said at the October's. Look, they did

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Speaker 19: it on October seventh. Three Now, they didn't do it

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Speaker 19: on a different day where they could have any day

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Speaker 19: in this year they could do a rally support the Palaestdians.

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Speaker 19: They chose October seventh because it is a celebration for them.

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Speaker 19: Every single person I spoke to said what happened October

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Speaker 19: seventh was legitimate. They all said they stand with hamas

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Speaker 19: who's standing for the Palestinian people. And by the way,

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Speaker 19: then oddly the same time they hold his belief And

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Speaker 19: by the way, I don't even know this was a thing.

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Speaker 19: Every single person I spoke with said, like in the clip,

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Speaker 19: that Israel actually committed October seven and it was a

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Speaker 19: false flag operation in order to wipe out the Palestinians.

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Speaker 6: This is what they truly believe in.

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Speaker 19: And of course what supersedes the evil of Israel is

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Speaker 19: of course the evil of the US. They share the

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Speaker 19: hatred with the United States. And of course it was

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Speaker 19: a group, a coalition of leftist lunatics, which I find

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Speaker 19: it so interesting because you have the LGBTQ people out there,

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Speaker 19: the climate change people out there, the anti capitalist people out.

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Speaker 2: There, and you know it perfectly well that they're as

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Speaker 2: anti American as they are anti Israel. Or you turned

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Speaker 2: up to one of these protests with just an American

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Speaker 2: flag and you were set upon and assaulted by multiple people.

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Speaker 2: So we've already played that footage in the past. Let's

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Speaker 2: turn our attention to Kamala Harris's campaign. She's gone from

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Speaker 2: doing no interviews to doing a whole bunch of interviews

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Speaker 2: with normally we're very friendly types. She's done sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: She's sat down with Howard sterned on an interview there

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Speaker 2: they call her Daddy Podcast. What do you see is

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Speaker 2: behind this change in strategy and is it working?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Look, she's not very smart. I think that's what coma

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Speaker 19: cops pretty clearly. I think that's the reason why she's

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Speaker 19: so popular among the white college student group of people,

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Speaker 19: because she is the definition of a pseudo intellectual, right,

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Speaker 19: she kind of strings together a bunch of platitudes as

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Speaker 19: if her speech writer was formerly employed by a fortune

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Speaker 19: cookie company.

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Speaker 6: She put those together. People a look how smart she is,

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Speaker 6: which she's.

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Speaker 19: Really obviously saying nothing. Look, she's not good at this.

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Speaker 19: And it's incredible, incredible to me how she's so ill

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Speaker 19: prepared for the question that she knows she's gonna get

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Speaker 19: right that even among friendly media. And that's why she's

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Speaker 19: not preppy, because she knows, she's doing all these interviews

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Speaker 19: among the friendly media, that she's not gonna get pressed

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Speaker 19: on those issues until that is.

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Speaker 6: She had that sixty.

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Speaker 19: Minutes interviewed with the always well coifed Bill Bussall Whittaker,

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Speaker 19: who was like a dog with a t bone stick.

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Speaker 6: He wouldn't let go over. It was phenomenal. It was

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Speaker 6: something to behold. You know.

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Speaker 19: She was sitting there and he asked her all the

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Speaker 19: typical questions. She of course deflected because she has no answers,

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Speaker 19: but he wouldn't let it go.

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Speaker 6: It was great. When he was talking about the border, she.

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Speaker 19: Kept deflecting, and he kept going. He went back that

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Speaker 19: well three times in the border, saying, yes, you say

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Speaker 19: the numbers.

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Speaker 6: Have gone down now, but they quite.

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Speaker 19: Rupled under your tutelage, under your starship from Trump. And

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Speaker 19: of course she couldn't do. He was talking with the economy.

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Speaker 19: She of course was moving away from those questions. He

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Speaker 19: interrupted her. He kept going back to it. It was

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Speaker 19: something to see. Good for him. I'm glad he did it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've yeah, he was tougher than she's face. But

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Speaker 2: still I thought she got away with plenty. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot of plata chudes, a lot of empty statements,

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Speaker 2: even the whole how you going to pay for this? Well,

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Speaker 2: we're going to tax the rich because the rich don't

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Speaker 2: pay any tax. When he would have known perfectly well

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Speaker 2: that that was a data point he could have corrected

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Speaker 2: her on. And this mystery now with ABC posting these

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Speaker 2: two different versions of her answer on Israel and being

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Speaker 2: having some influence on Prime Minister nettin Yahoo, that two

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Speaker 2: very different answers, one posted Sunday and the other one

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Speaker 2: that went to air on Monday, and the one that

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Speaker 2: went to air on Monday makes Kamala look far more

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Speaker 2: coherent and strong compared to the word salad we got,

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Speaker 2: which is I think the full answer, which everybody mocked widely.

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Speaker 2: So I think even the ABC, despite doing a tough interview,

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Speaker 2: are doing their best to protect her. Meanwhile, on the

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Speaker 2: view which was very friendly, indeed where she was just

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Speaker 2: loved and adored, I think that's where she really screwed up.

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Speaker 2: Because have a listen to this answer. I think this

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Speaker 2: is the Trump campaign's next ad.

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Speaker 16: If anything, would you have done something differently than President

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Speaker 16: Baden during the past four years?

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Speaker 14: There is done a thing that comes to mind in

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Speaker 14: terms of and I've been a part of most of

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Speaker 14: the decisions that have had impact.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe she said that Army.

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Speaker 3: Why would she.

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Speaker 2: She's tried to distance herself from the Biden Harris administration.

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Speaker 2: She's tried to present herself as the change candidate. We're

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Speaker 2: turning the page, it's a new day. And yet she

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Speaker 2: just said she can't think of a thing she would

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Speaker 2: have done differently.

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Speaker 19: She's so bad at this. Look, she's a bad politician.

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Speaker 19: She has fallen down upwards in every single position she

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Speaker 19: has gotten.

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Speaker 6: Look, of course there's an answer for that.

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Speaker 19: Well, look, what's incredible to me again is that this

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Speaker 19: is an election of change.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 19: The majority of people want to change candidate, but the

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Speaker 19: majority of people see Trump as the change candidate, because,

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Speaker 19: like she admits, she looks. She says it, I was

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Speaker 19: in the room for all the decisions. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 19: all crappy decisions, right, but she looks she didn't.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 19: The truth is she's in a tough spot. I don't

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Speaker 19: want to give her a pass here, but she's in

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Speaker 19: a very tough spot. Either she's going to condemn the

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Speaker 19: policies that she was beholding to her she was actually pursuing,

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Speaker 19: or she had to say, look, I agree with them

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Speaker 19: all and they were all crappy policies, which is why

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Speaker 19: he had to leave the race, because everyone knows he'd

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Speaker 19: be on the worst presidence we ever had.

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Speaker 6: Tough spot.

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Speaker 2: I feel for well, it's a tough spot. But like

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Speaker 2: you said, it was a question, she would have anticipated

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Speaker 2: it and it's something she's going to be ready for.

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Speaker 2: How are you different from the last four years? How

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Speaker 2: you the change candidate? And she had nothing? Now President

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Speaker 2: Biden has done it again. He is a spiken to

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Speaker 2: the media. Kamala was on air stealing her thunder and

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Speaker 2: he made a point of setting the records straight on

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Speaker 2: Governor Ron DeSantis, Florida governor who Kamala Harris had accused

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Speaker 2: of playing politics with hurricane relief.

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Speaker 14: Playing political games with Chris Norman in this crazy situations

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Speaker 14: list of emergency situation isn't utterly irreturnable.

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Speaker 2: And it is seltou Now. Desantas slammed Kamala Harris for

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Speaker 2: that bit of gas lighting, pointing that she's never made

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Speaker 2: contact before during natural disasters that he's dealt with and

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Speaker 2: that he talks to the president, not her, and remarkably,

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Speaker 2: President Biden backed him up.

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Speaker 3: This is telling.

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Speaker 11: The governor of Florida has been cooperative.

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Speaker 1: He said he's gotten all that he needs.

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Speaker 5: I talked to him again yesterday and I said, whoever,

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Speaker 5: I said, no, you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: It's being all being done well.

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Speaker 13: We thank you for it, and I literally gave my

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Speaker 13: personal phone number to call.

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Speaker 2: Is he trying to under mine? Is this deliberate? Or

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Speaker 2: am I rating too much into it? Is it just

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Speaker 2: Joe Boden sort of being unaway?

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Speaker 19: Oh, come on, give the old man a pass. Hasn't

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Speaker 19: he gone through enough Rita? He doesn't need it from

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Speaker 19: you doubling down in him. Let's just let it go.

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Speaker 6: Look this whole riff on the.

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Speaker 19: Santas Harris and him not taking a phone call, I mean,

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Speaker 19: he's just so gross.

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Speaker 6: I see. The man is right now in the.

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Speaker 19: Middle of dealing with his second major hurricane in a week,

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Speaker 19: the one that's hitting now they say is the biggest

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Speaker 19: hurricane hit Florida in.

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Speaker 6: One hundred years.

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Speaker 19: Sorry, Kamala's he's a little bit busy prepping for it,

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Speaker 19: like he said, Like he's a she's like a Spern girlfriend.

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Speaker 19: Like he won't take my phone call, turning my text. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: he's got more important things to do than deal with

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Speaker 19: your craziness. I mean, leave the man alone to call

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Speaker 19: him selfish. Who's being selfish? You're politicizing this, You're making

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Speaker 19: this about you. She can't help herself. You're the VP,

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Speaker 19: you have absolutely no.

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Speaker 6: Role when it comes to this.

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Speaker 19: But look, I think she, rather than bothering him, we

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Speaker 19: was trying to prepare maybe she could focus on FEMA,

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Speaker 19: which by the way, has a tremendous amount of problems.

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Speaker 19: First of all, their only FEMA could only make available

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Speaker 19: right now for this hurricane nine percent of its staff

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Speaker 19: for hurricane relief, when historically twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Percent of staff is there.

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Speaker 19: Because they're having massive staffing problems, thirty three percent of

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Speaker 19: all the jobs in FEMA are still unfilled when we're

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Speaker 19: standing trillions and trillions of dollars. And then even more gross,

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Speaker 19: this webinar came out. I don't know if you saw this.

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Speaker 19: This webinar came out where they were actually saying that

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Speaker 19: THEMA was saying that we have to prioritize equity over

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Speaker 19: absolutely helping the most amount of people possible.

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Speaker 6: It's literal.

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Speaker 19: This is what intersectionality actually becomes deadly.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 19: Then a second webinar came out. They said, we've got

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Speaker 19: to prioritize LBGQIA plus maya signe Apperson. That is how Look,

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Speaker 19: it reminds me of that New Yorker cartoon that came

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Speaker 19: out my favorite cartoon that said, the world is ending,

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Speaker 19: minority is disproportionately affected.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are.

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Speaker 6: We're actually living in New Yorker cartoon.

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Speaker 2: Me Horowitz. Thank you so much for your time tonight,

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Speaker 2: always your pleasure. Still to come. A teacher wins a

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Speaker 2: massive settlement after being sacked for refusing to use a

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Speaker 2: student's preferred pronounce. Stephanie Bastian up next, welcome back. Joining

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Speaker 2: me now is head of Advocacy from Women's Forum Australia,

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Speaker 2: Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, thank you for your time. Now. We've

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Speaker 2: seen some shocking revelations in the Australian Today about how

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Speaker 2: our court system is still relying on outdated information and

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Speaker 2: approving access to permanent treatments, including irreversible surgeries, hormone treatments

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Speaker 2: puberty blockers. Barrister Belle Lane, a leading Australian legal professor

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Speaker 2: on gender dysphoria cases, has written a paper calling on

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Speaker 2: the courts to look at the processes being adopted by

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Speaker 2: many Scandinavian countries where puberty blockers cross sex hormones are becoming.

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Speaker 2: Now eight last resort Australia Steel Step following this affirmation

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Speaker 2: model blindly. We're one of the last places that's doing

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Speaker 2: that despite all the evidence that's come out in the UK,

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Speaker 2: Scandinavian country's number of US states showing that this can

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Speaker 2: be a really harmful path for many confused kids.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, well, good evening, Rita, thanks for having me on tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 21: it's very concerning. The government seems to have its head

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Speaker 21: in the sand. We know the findings of the Castro

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Speaker 21: Court do impact Australia, yet our political leaders and I

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Speaker 21: think captured by powerful lobbyist groups like ACON, are continuing

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Speaker 21: to deny that this is having a big impact on

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Speaker 21: particularly children, and we know that girls are disproportionately affected,

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Speaker 21: particularly girls in schools. There's a social contagion element, there's

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Speaker 21: a mental health component to it, and these girls are

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Speaker 21: going through changes that they cannot reverse, they cannot fix.

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Speaker 21: And the fact that they will not review the fact

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Speaker 21: that they were using to look into it, I think

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Speaker 21: shows that we're on track for a solidamide scandal two

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Speaker 21: point zero.

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Speaker 2: That would be shocking. But I think you're absolutely right

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Speaker 2: because any child who undergoes a treatment that's irreversible that

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Speaker 2: leaves them with lifelong medical complications, and they were allowed

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Speaker 2: to go down that path despite all the evidence that's

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Speaker 2: come to light in recent years. At that, to my mind,

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Speaker 2: they've got a very good case for compensation.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, And I think another area that's impacting this are

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Speaker 21: our conversion therapy laws. Now a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 21: South Australia just passed their laws. But these conversion therapy

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Speaker 21: laws essentially legislate the affirmation model only. It criminalizes parents

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Speaker 21: who pursue a more holistic approach. It puts medical professionals

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Speaker 21: at risk of being accused of performing conversion practices on kids.

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Speaker 2: It is such a dishonest term for those laws to

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Speaker 2: call it conversion therapy, so dishonest because you do have

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Speaker 2: parents who say I want my child to see a

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Speaker 2: psychiatrists try to work through these issues before there's any

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Speaker 2: sort of drugs involved or medical procedures, and that is

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Speaker 2: something that's really not allowed under that and parents could

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Speaker 2: risk losing their children if it goes to the courts.

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Speaker 2: There was a well known case where that's already happened.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and I think there's probably more. We've certainly sent

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Speaker 21: off fis to find out how widespread the problem is

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Speaker 21: in various states, but we know that these laws are

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Speaker 21: affecting child protection cases and things like that because the

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Speaker 21: laws are so strict and it gives the state the

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Speaker 21: power to try to enforce them in this way.

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Speaker 12: It gives medical clinics.

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Speaker 21: Powers to report parents who are perhaps concerned about these processes. Really,

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Speaker 21: it is absolutely urgent that we have an inquiry as

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Speaker 21: soon as possible, because the longer the longer we take,

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Speaker 21: the more damage that's going to be done on the

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Speaker 21: bigger The scandal is going.

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Speaker 2: To be absolutely now to a lawsuit that should serve

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Speaker 2: as a warning to both public organizations and the private sector,

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Speaker 2: because both of them are pushing transactivism onto their staff.

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Speaker 2: A school board in Virginia has been forced to pay

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Speaker 2: five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars US in a

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Speaker 2: settlement to a teacher because they were fired for refusing

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Speaker 2: to use the preferred pronouns of a transgender student. I

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Speaker 2: think again, this is the wills are turning. Things are changing,

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Speaker 2: and there is now a correction happening where people are

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Speaker 2: going you're not going to couse me, You're not going

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Speaker 2: to bully me into affirming someone else's delusion. If they

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Speaker 2: want to pretend or if they believe they're this or that,

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Speaker 2: good for them, but I shouldn't have to participate in that.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, And that's why these cases are so important, cases

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Speaker 21: like sal Grover's and Jasmond Sussex. It's these cases where

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Speaker 21: you test the law and hopefully bring about change, and

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Speaker 21: even if there's a finding that is really wrongful and unfair,

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Speaker 21: at least then it sort of pushes the conversation further

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Speaker 21: to say, perhaps we need to look at repeals and reforms.

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Speaker 12: So hopefully, but I am concerned.

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Speaker 21: Because Victoria's obviously bringing in these vilification laws, so I

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Speaker 21: think that that's just you know, Harrietshing is an activist.

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Speaker 12: I think that they're going to be.

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Speaker 21: Problematic and in you know, being another weapon to be

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Speaker 21: used to silence discussions around women's sex base rights and

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Speaker 21: treatments for genderdice for it. So I hope there's some

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Speaker 21: pushback on that. But once again, these cases the world would.

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Speaker 2: Be helpful if we had a I don't know, an

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Speaker 2: opposition in this state that it sometimes opposed some of

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Speaker 2: this mad nine. They have been missing, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's where the real debate happens. That we saw that

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Speaker 2: with the voice and with the majority opinion prevailed, and

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Speaker 2: I think the majority opinion even here in Victoria is

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Speaker 2: very clearly on one side, but we've got both labor

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Speaker 2: and the liberals on the other side, so people really

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Speaker 2: don't have a choice when they go to cast their vote.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, there's some data from advocacy group Do

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Speaker 2: No Harm. It's made up of medical professionals and they

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Speaker 2: released a database although over two thousand US hospitals that

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Speaker 2: have performed sex change treatments on miners, so we're talking

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Speaker 2: about under eighteen here. This comes after the same group

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Speaker 2: revealed that over five seven hundred American children underwent sex

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Speaker 2: change surgeries between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three. They

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Speaker 2: claim these figures represent thousands of kids who are being

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Speaker 2: treated like guinea pigs for unproven and sometimes dangerous medical experiments,

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Speaker 2: and that's another thing that's not talked about. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's at the heart of this issue. I think

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Speaker 2: it is an ideological issue. But a lot of people

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Speaker 2: do point out that there's plenty of money to be

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Speaker 2: made from this sector, and once you perform a surgery

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Speaker 2: like this or go down the drugs path, you can

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Speaker 2: create a lifelong medical patient because they need that ongoing

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Speaker 2: care and often there's all sorts of complications.

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, and that's what makes it so devastating. But I

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Speaker 21: mean in Victoria, in Australia, we don't even have the statistics.

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Speaker 12: They are not keeping drug records.

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Speaker 21: If a child or a young adult has a double misseectomy,

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Speaker 21: we don't know whether it's for breast cancer or for

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Speaker 21: gender dysphoria. So some really good work being done in

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Speaker 21: the US. We certainly need more medical professionals who have

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Speaker 21: this knowledge to be maybe something similar here.

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Speaker 12: I think it's really important. We need this data.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need the data. We have to not have that.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie bast And thank you for your time. And that's

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Speaker 2: it from May. Up next is Newsnight