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Speaker 1: A serious misconduct charge has Kangaroos rackman Tristan Sherry before

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Speaker 1: the tribunal. His coach, Alistair Clarkson.

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Speaker 2: Is with us.

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Speaker 3: As the verdict.

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Speaker 4: Drops, Carlton revisit a familiar horror. A Sunday capitulation ratchets

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Speaker 1: Minogue accepts the invitation for the Grand Final entertainments as

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Speaker 1: the league locks that one day in September to the

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Speaker 5: I see advisday.

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Speaker 6: Can you help me on on three sixty one?

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Speaker 1: Are aware of that conversation? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I don't live under a rock in.

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Speaker 8: The reality is now that the gloves are off, Bourse

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Speaker 8: fair and love more at nine.

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Speaker 5: Job is pretty clear, like Hawthorne when let me very

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Speaker 1: Hide and seek me sure, I think, okaylo follow, I

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Speaker 1: can't have that.

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Speaker 6: I what do you want us to play worse? When

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Speaker 9: Hand mustang, all right, it's just that's the grateous price that.

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Speaker 6: First look at it.

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Speaker 5: She said, there's a dent in that.

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Speaker 2: Come look, sure enough there is.

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Speaker 1: I saw you everywhere on the weekend, Gary Lyon, in commentary,

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Speaker 4: On Friday night, yeah, we went down to do our

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Speaker 6: The whole damn lot. I was a bit worried.

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Speaker 4: About his crusty mates as well in behind him, so

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Speaker 4: it was it was great to be down there watching it,

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Speaker 4: and he was one of the stories of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I did enjoy your stern warning to that young fellow.

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Speaker 1: You're on here, we're in trusting You're not sure.

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Speaker 6: He took my advice, young man, but we got over it.

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Speaker 1: I had my last dollar on the wrong horse. I

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Speaker 1: Zach Butter's got himself into a malley yesterday and he

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Speaker 1: tipped me on the fifty thousand threshold. Have the most

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Speaker 1: fine player ever. And it's exactly what Toby tipped on.

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Speaker 4: Toby tipped you on Tuesday, and you backed the wrong horse.

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Speaker 4: So Zach went and did the right thing and got

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Speaker 6: Imagine how far you'll get the time. He needs a

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so tonight Chris Fagan and Alistair clarks And

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Speaker 1: are our two coaches. They will be with us shortly

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Speaker 1: and then Tom Hawkins joins the crew on the couch.

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Speaker 1: Look back at the events of round three. Our Monday

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Speaker 1: And this is the prize Ford's Ranger Super Duty XLT

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Speaker 1: most sort over after prize in footy. We've expanded the

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Speaker 1: voting to take in five players and just as well,

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Speaker 4: Saw, Yeah I needed I could added a few more

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Speaker 4: as well. I've given wonder will Ashcroft. I thought he

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Speaker 4: match that was they're in danger of losing. And his

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Speaker 4: last quarter came out and just got to work in

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Speaker 4: last quarter. He hit four clearances and I thought he

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Speaker 4: was a difference for joining them winning and losing, so

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Speaker 4: he gets the one. Thought Bailey Smith Thursday night. His

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Speaker 6: He had forty in the end.

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Speaker 4: He laid ten tackles to Jared so he and he's

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Speaker 6: And they got the win.

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Speaker 4: This was nearly my favorite performance of the weekend. Phinosaleman

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Speaker 4: well how he didn't get the five worked that out

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Speaker 4: and the little champ was back to his best and

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Speaker 6: As the season goes along.

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Speaker 4: He went and spent some time forward down of the

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Speaker 4: six clearances. He's just his level of excellence is phenomenal

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Speaker 4: phenomenally every week. It's unbelievable. So he's shot out to

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Speaker 1: Our first player to poll in more than one game,

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Speaker 1: of Christian Petruca Fraser and Marcus PONTANPILLI let's get to

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Speaker 1: the top of the agenda. It is tonight's developing story

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Speaker 1: the tribunal hearing to assess the serious misconduct charge leveled

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Speaker 1: against Kangaroo's Rachman Tristan Sherry for wiping blood on the

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I don't do that, Tristan.

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Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting, really play to study.

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Speaker 6: Braving my eyes to see me? Then I hope I

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Speaker 6: didn't see what I thought I saw. Now this is

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Speaker 6: the issue here. He's telling McGrath that he's got a

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: That is horrible.

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Speaker 3: It is a horrible look for kids out there, for

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Speaker 6: Now, this is a serious misconduct.

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Speaker 2: Charger.

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Speaker 6: That's a horrible look.

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Speaker 3: As you said, it's not acceptable and not something we've

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Speaker 3: seen for a long time. I'm not sure what Tristan

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Speaker 3: it's not an incident we want to see in the game.

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Speaker 3: It's so far away from what the game is today,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's a real issue and Tristan would

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Speaker 10: I think it needs to be enough so this never

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Speaker 2: So I don't think one and two is enough.

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Speaker 3: I think the starting number needs to be three and

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Speaker 5: A moment of madness, a regrettable incident that is clearly

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Speaker 5: a bad look for our code. Does it matter if

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Speaker 5: he's done the wrong thing, he's frustration.

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Speaker 11: Or whatever he's got better of him at the time.

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Speaker 11: And look like you said, if you're regarding it right now,

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Speaker 11: just one of those moments that you do and you go,

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Speaker 11: what the hell have I just done?

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Speaker 2: Hell? Have I just down?

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Speaker 3: Hell I do if I have to certain example, they

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Speaker 1: No contest here. I only try to settle all the

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Speaker 1: right penalty out of the tribunal tonight. David Zeita has sat.

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Speaker 6: Through the case.

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Speaker 1: David, Welcome backh.

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Speaker 8: Jared, Hi, Gary.

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Speaker 1: How has it landed well?

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Speaker 8: The AFL wanted a three match band, The AFL got

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Speaker 8: He said he was very displeased with the names he

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Speaker 8: was being called. He was being called an effing you

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Speaker 8: know what, a flopping you know what? He says after

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Speaker 8: He said, there were no excuses. It's a poor look

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Speaker 8: even though that is what a curd, he acknowledged. I

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Speaker 8: have done better, he says. He called Andrew McGrath, had

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Speaker 8: a good discussion. The following morning. He spoke to the

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Speaker 8: really from there it all just became about whether three

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Speaker 8: and said that in quite strong language, the intentional act

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Speaker 8: player is disgraceful behavior. Sherry's evidence was impressive. It is

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Speaker 8: of some significance. He admitted in evidence there was blood

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Speaker 8: They note that Cherry took it upon himself to speak

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Speaker 8: and any potential transmission of diseases. The Buckley and how cases,

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Speaker 8: of course, that have been mentioned throughout the recent few days,

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Speaker 8: are quite significantly in the Tribunal's view. Those players wipe

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Speaker 8: blood under the jumper of shorts. There was no meaningful

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Speaker 8: was not of the same It wasn't of the same

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Speaker 8: disgraceful character as occurred here. We note that, finally, if

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Speaker 8: not for Sherry's early play and his impressive, candid and

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Speaker 8: remorseful evidence, we may have considered a sanction of more

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Speaker 8: than three weeks appropriate. So as it stands, he now

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Speaker 8: misses games against Carlton, Brisbane and Richmond, but returns to

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Speaker 8: its way there.

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Speaker 1: David, thank you, so three felt like the default position.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard the tribunal before use the phrases disgraceful

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Speaker 1: behavior and quite shocking to depict an incident.

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Speaker 6: It was, wasn't it? And you were there?

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Speaker 4: We were there were I was did you close at home,

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Speaker 4: binoculars on it, and just I was stunning because I

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Speaker 4: have never seen it before. I've been watching footy for

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Speaker 4: thirty years, you know, had the Bucks incident, but it

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Speaker 4: wasn't there. So I don't need to make a big

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Speaker 4: deal out of this. It is a big deal, but it.

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Speaker 6: Won't be it won't be an issue for our game.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we'll ever see it again.

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Speaker 4: It's just and so then it just goes back to Tristan.

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Speaker 6: What were you thinking?

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Speaker 4: And he clearly wasn't, so he made a really bad blue.

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Speaker 4: I agree with everyone, it's a horrible look. Three weeks

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Speaker 4: is about right. He's put his hand up. He's probably

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Speaker 4: saved himself from four or five by being as remorseful

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Speaker 4: and as candid as he was. And I reckon that's it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we'll see it again. I think that's

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Speaker 4: It was just a shocking look, and it surprised everyone

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Speaker 6: I got to know him well. I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: He, just as we all have at various stages under pressure,

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Speaker 1: Own your behavior, be remorseful for it, serve the ban,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see them in four weeks time. So there

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Speaker 4: They've started really well. There are two two, two from

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Speaker 6: Little bit more difficult without him. He's a really significant player,

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Speaker 1: All right, Alister Clarkson will be with us shortly. Carlton

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Speaker 1: lived the recurring nightmare at the MCG yesterday. Big leads

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Speaker 9: What did joke?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, you hate bagging your.

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Speaker 12: Own forty time and we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 12: But this has been embarrassing with a capital lea.

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Speaker 9: No pretty filthy, I'm pretty silty.

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Speaker 12: Here we are the life of a Calvin supporter.

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Speaker 5: I think with coaches in this silk situation, there's always

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Speaker 2: It's a hack kick from Picket, still alive, Blankford, Blankford,

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Speaker 11: It's gone to the danger man.

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Speaker 2: Pickets got standing, outstanding finish.

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Speaker 1: And Sadley became I just haven't done out to match

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Speaker 10: They've got no answers.

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Speaker 2: It is happening again and he's hard to watch.

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Speaker 5: Day's biggest comeback victory for twenty three years. Just one don't.

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Speaker 11: Dan Michael Boss channel over it.

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Speaker 7: Why it's frustrating and why you're a little bit filthy

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Speaker 2: I'm seven goals down to all of us, three us.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine and it is just brutal for Carlson.

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Speaker 6: That's why they're getting fired out. I think in second.

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Speaker 3: Halves as much as there is the scars, and there's

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Speaker 6: But I also just think.

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Speaker 6: The ability to go with teams today.

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Speaker 11: It was really disappointing.

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Speaker 7: I was expecting more than that and we just didn't

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Speaker 2: From forty to three points down.

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Speaker 11: This is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Coun't face their second half femins again and failed miserably.

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Speaker 2: But it's cory for Max and Glory.

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Speaker 11: No good night.

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Speaker 3: Now we had ours like we had seventeen days off.

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Speaker 2: That's a good certain breaker.

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Speaker 7: We've got another game in five days. You don't get

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Speaker 6: That's why we've got next week.

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Speaker 7: There is another game that comes, so we get to

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Speaker 12: Look at the Carlton fans are swarming out of this joint.

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Speaker 5: They've had enough and you know what's.

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Speaker 2: Going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Talk back tonight, talk back tomorrow.

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Speaker 12: This has been such a such a terrible performance, extraordinary

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Speaker 1: The can something that once be Analie Backling and Moost

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Speaker 1: entirely predictable in the way that it unfolded and all

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Speaker 1: too familiar, and it does deliver Carlton towards good Friday

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Speaker 6: It for us, the how and the why. So I've

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Speaker 4: So it looked to me that when Carlton run out,

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Speaker 4: seven goals. They were instinctive, they were aggressive, they were

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: The first quarter is different because if you give up

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Speaker 6: A whole game to retrieve it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your four goals to one arm I don't matter.

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Speaker 4: We've got The consequence comes when you go in at

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Speaker 1: On Thursday night, there was the bring him off, have

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Speaker 6: Going to miss Josh Tracy, who's on the ramp.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So that's that has a material impact the

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Speaker 1: AFL the early call on its grand final timeslot, and

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Speaker 1: early is the right phrase. It's a populist decision and

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Speaker 10: I think in the world that we're now in, which

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Speaker 10: of years is really We thought it really sensible idea,

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Speaker 10: and honestly, we'd spoken a lot to our key stakeholders

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I sit down with the executive, we worked through it,

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Speaker 9: We just wanted to lock it in and give our

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Speaker 10: We've got to consider, as I said, a whole range

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Speaker 10: footy product. But we're not saying that in future we

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Speaker 10: wouldn't look to reassess, but at this point in time,

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Speaker 10: we think it's really important to give our stakeholders certainty.

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Speaker 10: And that's why two years we think makes eminent liquid sense.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of change forwards through the AFL system

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Speaker 1: this was the ultimate plication. We'll give you the afternoon

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Speaker 1: Grand Final so we can lay it down on some

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Speaker 4: Who the key stay, Who would be the key key stakeholders?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's soon on the broadcasters.

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Speaker 1: No, so it's fans over television, But still is the

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Speaker 1: misnomer in that is television actually brings the game to

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Speaker 1: the fans, and you do get more fans in television

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Speaker 1: and that's just a convention of the way it works.

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Speaker 4: Postponing inevitable, I'm a fan of I think it should

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Speaker 4: go to twilight.

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Speaker 6: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to I love the Grand Final if it

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Speaker 4: have been to do it.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of happened.

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Speaker 4: It was happening in two years fine by the sounds

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Speaker 4: of it, So delaying the inevitable, but two thirties, fine

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Speaker 4: by May I'll go. I'll be there and it'll be

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Speaker 4: a ripping day.

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Speaker 6: But it does it seems. I'd love to know who

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Speaker 4: They're made it on the back of the fans, well

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Speaker 4: they should be pretty damn happy.

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Speaker 1: Where it ratchets up the stakes is here where the

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Speaker 1: NRL Grand Final outrated the AFL Grand Final, which is

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Speaker 6: Last year.

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Speaker 1: Now the AFL, I think would take the view. Or

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Speaker 1: the strongholders in Sydney, so we'll see. There have been

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Speaker 1: all sorts of combinations that have played both Grand finals

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Speaker 1: and hasn't delivered that result. Previously, the AFL, had it

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Speaker 1: staying in the afternoon makes it a contest and if

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Speaker 1: Grand Final, it will have been a mistake.

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Speaker 6: Do you think it worries the AFLF.

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Speaker 8: It should?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 1: Should it worries channel is at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: you want to have the number one program in television

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Speaker 1: and if your sport is the number one sport, you

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Speaker 1: this year on Free to Wear, the NRL's beating the

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Speaker 6: I think people have been asleep.

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Speaker 4: Also have something to do with the fact that the

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Speaker 6: I think there's a bit of that going on in

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Speaker 1: Let's bring our coaches in Shelby, Alistair Clarkson and Chris Fagan,

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Speaker 1: so much premiership of success, North Melbourne and the Brisbane

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