WEBVTT - Sharri | 26 February

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Shari.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Evening Tonight our exclusive report that intelligence agencies are

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<v Speaker 3>investigating Australians who've flown to Lebanon for a terror leader's funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>This as we expose more people who are openly supporting

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<v Speaker 3>Hesbela dirty politics. The Albanezy government behind in the polls

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<v Speaker 3>launches personal attacks on Peter Dutton. The Prime Minister is

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<v Speaker 3>also exposed for protecting China over the live fire drill

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<v Speaker 3>in the Tasman Sea. The Bivas family has hit out

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<v Speaker 3>at Prime Minister Albanezi for his callous response to the

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<v Speaker 3>grotesque coffin spectacle. My exclusive report coming up, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course we'll broadcast the Bibas family funeral live. The eulogies

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<v Speaker 3>will start at eight thirty tonight our time. Right in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of our show, we'll cross to Israel as

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<v Speaker 3>father and husband Yadin speaks for the first time and

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<v Speaker 3>as we all farewell his beautiful boys. But first tonight

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<v Speaker 3>I can exclusively reveal that intelligence and security agencies are

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<v Speaker 3>investigating the Australians attending the funeral of terror leader Hassan Nasrallah.

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<v Speaker 3>We can also tonight expose more Australians who are at

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<v Speaker 3>the Hasbel Alder's funeral, including a photographer and a kid's

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<v Speaker 3>footy coach. Government sources told me today that the agencies

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<v Speaker 3>are examining the Australians who attended the funeral services commemorating

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<v Speaker 3>one of the world's worst terrorists. They include Abed Almajid Mortada, Miriam.

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<v Speaker 1>Ishak Zein and Hassan Jeba.

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<v Speaker 3>We also showed a group of individuals last night who

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<v Speaker 3>claim to be the AUSSI crew. In a moment, Taal

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<v Speaker 3>exposed more Australians who attended the funeral of the terror

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<v Speaker 3>leader responsible for murdering thousands of innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>People around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the individuals discussed last night were already known

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<v Speaker 3>to the intelligence agencies and there's now a question over

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<v Speaker 3>how the alban Easy government, Home Affairs, Bodiforce and the

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<v Speaker 3>agencies will handle this. Will they allow these individuals to

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<v Speaker 3>come back into the country or will Tony Burke investigate

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<v Speaker 3>using the powers to block their return and he has

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<v Speaker 3>those powers. AZEO Director General Mike Burgess told Shadow Home

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<v Speaker 3>Affairs Minister James Patterson last night in Senate estimates that

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<v Speaker 3>Australia can temporarily prevent someone returning to the country if

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<v Speaker 3>authorities believe they pose a threat.

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<v Speaker 4>There are Australians will have a right to return. That

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<v Speaker 4>there is temporary exclusion orders that can be applied in

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<v Speaker 4>some so circumstances that would control that return in a

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<v Speaker 4>manner which was enabled the issue to be managed effectively

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<v Speaker 4>by authorities, including ASIO.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Burgess made it very clear he would be concerned

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<v Speaker 3>if he learned that Australians were traveling overseas to participate

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<v Speaker 3>in an event organized by a listed terror group, and

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<v Speaker 3>he said it could be unlawful.

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<v Speaker 4>As a security service, I'd be regardless of whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>listed or not, if they were going to an event,

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<v Speaker 4>whether a vile extremists or known terrorists, we would be interested.

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<v Speaker 4>As Australia's security service. The fact that an organization is

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<v Speaker 4>listed is sending a message to society that's a listed

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<v Speaker 4>terrorist organization and actually there are criminal penalties for engaging

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<v Speaker 4>with or being a member of such group.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prime Minister had a shockingly weak response to this

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<v Speaker 3>very serious matter.

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<v Speaker 5>Today, a share does his job and scrutinizes intelligence issues

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<v Speaker 5>on behalf of Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>How can the leader of a democracy not even condemn

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<v Speaker 3>attending an event honoring a terrorist, he couldn't be more

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<v Speaker 3>of a wet lettice. Peter Dutton, much stronger, said there

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<v Speaker 3>was no place for terror supporters in our country.

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<v Speaker 6>I find it deeply disturbing. It's like somebody attending the

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<v Speaker 6>funeral of Adolf Hitler or somebody who had been responsible

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<v Speaker 6>for deaths of many people at listed terrorist organization, and

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<v Speaker 6>a person who is the head of a listed terrorist

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<v Speaker 6>organization is not something to be to be praised. If

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<v Speaker 6>we've got people here who hate our country, who hate

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<v Speaker 6>a part of our country, whether it's the Jewish community

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<v Speaker 6>or Hindus or people of Asian extraction, or because of

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<v Speaker 6>somebody's religion or no religion, they have no place in

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<v Speaker 6>our country.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we can't expose more Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are at the funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Australian artist Tom Toby who wrote on social media

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<v Speaker 3>on the saddest day of my life, I am honored

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<v Speaker 3>to be a servant, a servant of the faithful, a

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<v Speaker 3>servant of the truth, a servant of the heroes, a

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<v Speaker 3>servant of history, but above all, a servant of the

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<v Speaker 3>profound legacy. Now, after Nazreala was killed in September, Tom

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<v Speaker 3>spoke at a rally in Sydney where he yelled long

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<v Speaker 3>live the Resistance.

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<v Speaker 7>Come and meet us and know what it is to

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<v Speaker 7>meet resistance. They are such an exemptlar group of people

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<v Speaker 7>because when they stand before that disgusting, the crepit, dermonic, zionist,

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<v Speaker 7>janacidal entity, they say to them, why why do you

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<v Speaker 7>want to fly blames?

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<v Speaker 5>Come and meet.

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<v Speaker 8>Us in.

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<v Speaker 3>I attempted to contact Tom today but I haven't as

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<v Speaker 3>yet heard back. Another Australian, Hussein, posted dozens of videos

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<v Speaker 3>all day from the funeral. He spoke about how the

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli planes were trying to scare him, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>posted as he was walking to the burial site later.

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<v Speaker 1>In Sydney in his spare time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a kid's footy coach and he just seems like

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<v Speaker 3>a regular dat who apparently supports Hesbelah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Another Australian known online as ass Sabra. He clearly wanted

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<v Speaker 3>me to know that he was at the Hasbla Leita's

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<v Speaker 3>funeral too, because overnight he tagged me in an Instagram post.

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<v Speaker 3>As you can see there, it says Hi Shari Markson

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<v Speaker 3>and he's standing next to another Australian who I told

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<v Speaker 3>you about last night is shak Zane And as you

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<v Speaker 3>can see in this next footage, he filmed Nazarella's funeral

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<v Speaker 3>and he shared it all online and after October seven

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<v Speaker 3>he shared videos on Twitter on x showing the cap

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<v Speaker 3>of israelis the taking of hostages by Himus with a

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<v Speaker 3>caption apartheid Israel. Now I should warn you this next

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<v Speaker 3>footage is distressing and that part we blurred was a

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<v Speaker 3>hostage who was captured and was.

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<v Speaker 1>Being dragged on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we've asked Tony Burke today what he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>do about all of this. Firstly, we asked him, does

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<v Speaker 3>he condemn this in the strongest terms? Is he asking

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<v Speaker 3>authorities to immediately investigate criminal charges given associating with Hesbelah

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<v Speaker 3>in some circumstances is a serious terror offense under the

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<v Speaker 3>Commonwealth Criminal Code. Also, whether these people will be allowed

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<v Speaker 3>back in the country. He needs to examine all the circumstances,

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<v Speaker 3>including their citizenship status, whether they're on a visa. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you won't believe it, maybe you will. This is what

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Burk's office said to us in response to those questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 3>To add to the comments made by Director General Burgess

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<v Speaker 3>last night at Senate estimates he couldn't even condemn Australians

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<v Speaker 3>mourning a terror leader, traveling halfway across the world to

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<v Speaker 3>attend the funeral of a terror leader. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what a proper response looks like. This is from Shadow

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<v Speaker 3>Home Affairs Minister James Patterson, who said Tony Burke should

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<v Speaker 3>come out of hiding and do his job. If these

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<v Speaker 3>Nazuela funeral attendees were on visas, they should have already

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<v Speaker 3>been canceled to prevent them returning to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>He can use.

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<v Speaker 3>Temporary exclusion orders to stop Australian citizens returning while they

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<v Speaker 3>are investigated for associated with a listed terror organization, but

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<v Speaker 3>that would require him to put the national interest before

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<v Speaker 3>his political interest, which he so far has been reluctant

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish leader Alex Rifchin spoke about the extent of Hesbela

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<v Speaker 3>support here in Australia when he was on with Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Kenny earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>None of this is a surprise because we've seen for

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<v Speaker 8>sixteen months people walking in the streets of our major

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<v Speaker 8>cities holding aloft the portraits of Hassan Israela. We've seen

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<v Speaker 8>mosques in Sydney holding ceremonies to ho In Israela and

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<v Speaker 8>other fallen Hesbala operatives. So we know that we have

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<v Speaker 8>this problem in our society. We know there are people

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<v Speaker 8>amongst us who are sympathetic to this ideology, who view

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<v Speaker 8>Hasbillah and Israela as being heroes to be emulated. And

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<v Speaker 8>that is a very dangerous and chilling thing that we're

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<v Speaker 8>dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Dangerous and chilling.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, we need the Australian government to take strong action

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<v Speaker 3>here to protect all Australians. It's appalling that these individuals

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<v Speaker 3>feel so emboldened that they can't only fly to attend

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<v Speaker 3>an event organized by a listed terror organization, but they

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<v Speaker 3>feel feel so comfortable posting about it online. It's because

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<v Speaker 3>this shocking conduct has been tolerated. It's because police never

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<v Speaker 3>take any action against terror supporters despite the laws available

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<v Speaker 3>to them. They've allowed support for terrorism, for the most

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<v Speaker 3>barbaric of crimes to become normalized in our country. The

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<v Speaker 3>attitude of Tony Burke and Anthony Albanesi simply isn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't deserve to be the Prime Minister and Home

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<v Speaker 3>Affairs minister, charged with national security and social cohesion. Our

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<v Speaker 3>message must be unambiguous and uncompromising. It must be that

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<v Speaker 3>we have zero tolerance for terror and that those who

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<v Speaker 3>align themselves with the enemies of democracy, freedom and peace

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<v Speaker 3>have no place in our country or our society. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as you can see at the corner of our TV screen,

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<v Speaker 3>we do have and we'll bring it back right now,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got live scenes from Tel Aviv. The funeral procession

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<v Speaker 3>for the Bibas family is underway. The actual eulogies the

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<v Speaker 3>ceremony will begin at eight thirty pm our time, that's

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<v Speaker 3>eleven thirty in Israel, and when it does, we will

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<v Speaker 3>cross straight to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now let's have a look at the mud.

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<v Speaker 3>Slinging that we've seen take place today. The infamous Labor

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<v Speaker 3>Dought unit is in full swing against Peter Dutton. Multiple

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<v Speaker 3>reports have emerged in media outlets scrutinizing Dutton's legal purchase

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<v Speaker 3>of shares seventeen years ago, his property purchases too. Now

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<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister today pretended he had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with any of this.

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<v Speaker 9>Prime Minister, what's wrong with Dutton making money out of property?

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<v Speaker 9>Haven't you as well?

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<v Speaker 5>I made no comment about Peter Dutton's uh matters. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the matter for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Prime Minister immicated today done quite an extensive property investment.

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<v Speaker 9>Does his use of the use of the trust fund

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<v Speaker 9>the past the pop test.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a matter for Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 3>But this denial is curious because back on Friday, when

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<v Speaker 3>Alban Easy was questioned about whether Heat negatively geared he's

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<v Speaker 3>Copa Cabana holiday house, well, he suggested the journalist examine

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<v Speaker 3>Dutton's property portfolio.

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<v Speaker 10>You've got a lot of flack, possibly unfairly so on

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<v Speaker 10>buying a lovely new home in Copa, Goamana. I've never

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<v Speaker 10>heard you explain before.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you negatively gearing it?

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<v Speaker 5>Seriously? I'll swap my property portfolio with Peters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't really stack up that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>now isn't behind this attack on Dutton's properties and wealth,

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<v Speaker 3>given he literally raised it with a journalist while he

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<v Speaker 3>was being filmed on Friday, and then suddenly all of

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<v Speaker 3>these stories have appeared this week. Peter Dutton today, for

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<v Speaker 3>what it's worth, he defended his record.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they've trowled through every transaction of my life,

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<v Speaker 6>for my entire adult life, and they've come up with

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that we've bought and sold properties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet labor ministers use the revelations to claim Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 3>didn't understand cost of living pressures.

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<v Speaker 11>He should have declared these property transactions as he's required

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<v Speaker 11>to do as a member of Parliament. But secondly, I

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<v Speaker 11>think it gives some insight into why he doesn't think

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<v Speaker 11>that it's important that governments invest in homes. He's been

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<v Speaker 11>able to amass a property empire of himself, and good

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<v Speaker 11>luck to him, he's bought and sold homes. But I

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<v Speaker 11>don't think that he should be standing in the way

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<v Speaker 11>and threatening to cut a fund that is actually delivering

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<v Speaker 11>homes for essential workers, for women fleeing domestic violence, for veterans.

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<v Speaker 11>They're the people who need homes, people like Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 11>and me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is typical labor playbook. Their dirt unit is the

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<v Speaker 3>best in the business. And I can tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>as a former Press Gallery political editor. Peter Dutton slammed

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<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister over these dirty tactics.

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<v Speaker 6>The Prime Minister's office is shopping around dirt sheets at

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<v Speaker 6>the moment, transactions that go back to when I was

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<v Speaker 6>twenty years of age, that much is obvious, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think the Prime Minister's office has tried to shop this

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<v Speaker 6>story to a dozen journalists. One has picked it up

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<v Speaker 6>and the others have seen fit not to. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it reflects poorly on the Prime Minister and the desperation

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<v Speaker 6>that he's in at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>The election campaign hasn't even officially begun, but we've already

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<v Speaker 3>seen Alberizi roll out many scare the same scare campaign

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<v Speaker 3>from the twenty sixteen election, and now a grubby attack

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<v Speaker 3>on Peter Dutton's homes.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, we still don't have the answer on where the

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<v Speaker 3>Albanesi has negatively geared his properties. That's the question that

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<v Speaker 3>kicked all of this off after all. All right, we're

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<v Speaker 3>on standby to take you to the Bibas family funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>But now let's bring in former Victorian Liberal Party president

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Kroeger and Quillette founder Claire Lehman. Welcome to you both,

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<v Speaker 3>and let's start with this scare campaign on Dutton's property portfolio.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Michael Kroger, do you think, from your extensive

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<v Speaker 3>experience in politics, these sort of tactics work with voters?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, they can work if it forces the resignation of

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<v Speaker 12>the political figure and involved. But they've fired a blank

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<v Speaker 12>so far. Peter Creedlin on her shows answered the question

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<v Speaker 12>about the share acquisitions, and you know, you send someone

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<v Speaker 12>like Murray, what in Murray's never had a job in

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<v Speaker 12>the industry. Mary's been a staffer and and a politician

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<v Speaker 12>and a lawyer. Doesn't seem to understand that the Dutton family,

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<v Speaker 12>Peter Dutton and his father were in the construction business. Well, Murray,

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<v Speaker 12>what you do in the construction business is you buy

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<v Speaker 12>a block of land, if you've got a building license,

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<v Speaker 12>you build a house. You then on sell it and

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<v Speaker 12>you make a profit. You go onto the next one.

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<v Speaker 12>You do that multiple times. You might, as the Duttons did,

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<v Speaker 12>I gather buy an old Chilker center land in buildings

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<v Speaker 12>or a house renovated into a childcer center, on sell it,

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<v Speaker 12>and you do that for as many times as you can.

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<v Speaker 12>That's what people do in the construction industry. Builders build

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<v Speaker 12>homes and they sell them. They buy the block of land,

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<v Speaker 12>it's ub divide it, they build a house and sell it.

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<v Speaker 12>So he's sort of attacking, you know, the fact that

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<v Speaker 12>the Duttons were in business in the building industry. So

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<v Speaker 12>anyone in the building construction industry looking at this is

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<v Speaker 12>absolutely laughing at Murray Watt because it just shows you

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<v Speaker 12>he's got no idea how industry works. But look at

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<v Speaker 12>another level, this is not working because people can't pay

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<v Speaker 12>their mortgages, they can't buy food, right, That's how bad

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<v Speaker 12>things are in Australia today. What they want from albo

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<v Speaker 12>is what is his grand and for a second term

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<v Speaker 12>and all they see is this much breaking by Murray Watt.

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<v Speaker 12>It's not helping Olbot. No, it makes it very clear

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<v Speaker 12>to people at the Cupboins Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Albanezy hasn't outlined any vision or agenda for his second term.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Claire back to this, it strikes me that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little bit early for the dirt unit to

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<v Speaker 3>kick off. We're not officially in the election campaign yet.

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<v Speaker 13>It is a little bit early.

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<v Speaker 14>But I would just push back on some of the

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<v Speaker 14>comments that have been shared tonight and argue that it

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<v Speaker 14>is a problem for the Liberal Party. It's a problem

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<v Speaker 14>because they have issues attracting young people and we all

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<v Speaker 14>know the statistics now, you know in the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 14>for example, you would need three times the median wage.

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<v Speaker 13>The median salary to afford a median home now.

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<v Speaker 14>It's something like thirteen times, So people on a median

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<v Speaker 14>wage in Sydney cannot afford a median home. And you're

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<v Speaker 14>getting to the point where young people of a younger

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<v Speaker 14>generation have to say for a deposit their whole you know,

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<v Speaker 14>for take many years to say for a deposit.

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<v Speaker 13>Then when they.

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<v Speaker 14>Earn enough to service a mortgage, they're in their forties,

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<v Speaker 14>they go to the bank.

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<v Speaker 13>They're too old for a loan.

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<v Speaker 14>So we're locking our society has locked out an entire

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<v Speaker 14>generation from home ownership. That's a huge problem for conservatives.

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<v Speaker 14>And the issue is simply it's not that Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 14>has a property portfolio. It's that the liberals need to

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<v Speaker 14>differentiate themselves from labor when it comes to the housing issue.

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<v Speaker 13>It's not rocket science. We know how to fix this problem.

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<v Speaker 14>They need to say we're going to stem migration and

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<v Speaker 14>we're going to increase supply, and they need to take

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<v Speaker 14>those two things very seriously and prosecute a case for that.

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<v Speaker 14>If they don't, young people just won't engage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think housing affordability is an issue for both

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<v Speaker 3>of the major parties. And you know Albinezy's purchase of

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<v Speaker 3>the copagavan a man of course, Well, if voters were struggling,

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<v Speaker 3>they'd probably hold that against him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's have a look at this issue of.

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<v Speaker 2>Cherry before you do.

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<v Speaker 12>Before you do to answer, clear, the Dutton's were building

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<v Speaker 12>houses and building charca centers. Clear they weren't detracting from

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<v Speaker 12>the property supply the house and supply, they were adding

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<v Speaker 12>to it.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh yeah, this is not.

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<v Speaker 14>A personal thing against Dutton. I'm not suggesting Dutton has

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<v Speaker 14>done anything wrong. It's just that the Liberal party itself

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<v Speaker 14>needs to have stronger policy, a stronger policy framework to

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<v Speaker 14>tackle this issue. I mean the person to look at

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<v Speaker 14>is Pierre Poulivert in Canada. He's the only conservative leader

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<v Speaker 14>in the world who is popular with young people. And

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<v Speaker 14>he's popular with young people because he's targeting housing as

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<v Speaker 14>the number one issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess the opposition is doing that, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>through saying we're going to bring down immigration levels to

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<v Speaker 3>take the pressure off that's of housing. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get to this issue because it's been

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<v Speaker 3>such a shocking revelation today. Albanese under fire for misleading

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<v Speaker 3>the public when he claimed incorrectly that China had given

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<v Speaker 3>notice to Australia of their warship exercises. Have a look

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<v Speaker 3>at Albanese's earlier inaccurate claim.

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<v Speaker 5>Australian ships travel to the South China Sea and where

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<v Speaker 5>that is that the hints there in the name very clearly,

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<v Speaker 5>and we participate in those activities, including our navy. There

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<v Speaker 5>was notice given. We have made it clear that we

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<v Speaker 5>think more notice should have been given.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Albanzi has misled the public on this and we

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<v Speaker 3>know that because.

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<v Speaker 1>Today incented estimates.

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<v Speaker 3>It was revealed that air safety authorities were alerted to

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<v Speaker 3>the exercise thirty minutes after they began, thirty minutes after

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<v Speaker 3>and that was only thanks to a Virgin pilot.

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<v Speaker 15>Have a look, the only way you knew about this

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<v Speaker 15>was because a Virgin pilot heard about it and called

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<v Speaker 15>in it correct Virgin plan.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, Michael Kroger, you know this is clearly

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<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister. He's been exposed for misleading the public.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, Sharlie, let's be honest about Alboat. To make a

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<v Speaker 12>point we've made before, he's not up to this job.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, I've known most of the Prime ministers in

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<v Speaker 12>this country dating back to the nineteen seventies. In nearly

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<v Speaker 12>every case, they were highly gifted, highly intelligent people, a

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<v Speaker 12>number of Rhodes Scholars, Oxford graduates, very clever people.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be.

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<v Speaker 12>Smart to be prime minister because you've got to be

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<v Speaker 12>across one hundred different issues on any given day. Albow's

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<v Speaker 12>never been a detailed person. He wasn't across the detail.

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<v Speaker 12>He just gave an answer that he came into his

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<v Speaker 12>head at the time that oh, there was proper warning,

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<v Speaker 12>because he thinks there's warning, so that's what he knows.

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<v Speaker 12>So he says, oh, they gave us warning, thinking that's

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<v Speaker 12>what happened. He didn't know that they hadn't given warning.

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<v Speaker 2>He had no idea.

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<v Speaker 12>He wasn't across the detail in the slightest until it's

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<v Speaker 12>been revealed today. Good old Virgin helped us out. So

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<v Speaker 12>did he deliberately mislead? The hard headed people would say,

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<v Speaker 12>yes he did. It's terrible, blah blah blah. Look what

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<v Speaker 12>I think. I think he had no idea what he

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<v Speaker 12>was talking about. As is the case with a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of these issues, he just hasn't got the intellectual capacity

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<v Speaker 12>to be across the detail. I'm sorry about that, but

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<v Speaker 12>that's the fact of the matter, Sharry.

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<v Speaker 3>Just before I get Clare's response, I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>explain to everyone what you're seeing on your screen. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we can pull up the Tel Aviv footage in

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<v Speaker 3>full screen. So tens of thousands of Israelis have lined

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<v Speaker 3>the streets all the way across Israel to pay their

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<v Speaker 3>respect as the funeral procession goes past. So it is

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<v Speaker 3>now the funeral procession is nearing approach the Kibboltz near Oz.

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<v Speaker 3>Kibboltz near Oz, that's where the Bibas family we're from.

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<v Speaker 3>That is where the funeral will be. It is a

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<v Speaker 3>private funeral, but it's going to be broadcast live. So

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<v Speaker 3>right across Israel, tens and tens, maybe even hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of Israelis have gathered to pay their respects as

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<v Speaker 3>the procession passes. So we're looking at some of those

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<v Speaker 3>crowds now the footage before. Obviously Israelis were leaving as

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<v Speaker 3>the vehicles had already passed. The eulogies are on track

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<v Speaker 3>to start in about eight thirty after they do Yarden,

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<v Speaker 3>it will be the first time we hear from Yarden,

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<v Speaker 3>the father and husband of Shiri and baby Kafir and Ril,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will be in Hebrew, but we'll bring it

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<v Speaker 3>up and we'll try to tell you what he's saying

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<v Speaker 3>as best as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, A very quick response now.

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<v Speaker 3>Claire, to this issue of Albinezi misleading the public over that.

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<v Speaker 13>It's part of a pattern, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 14>Albo has a habit of amising or outright denying threats

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<v Speaker 14>not just to our national security but our internal social cohesion.

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<v Speaker 14>It's in the too hard basket, I think for him,

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<v Speaker 14>he's shown he doesn't have the spine to stand up

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<v Speaker 14>against those who would intimidate us and threaten us, but

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<v Speaker 14>also provide reassurance to the Australian public that we're in

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<v Speaker 14>safe hands.

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<v Speaker 13>He's just failed that repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, Claire Leeman, Michael Kroger, thank you both very

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<v Speaker 3>much for your time today. Thank you, k all Right,

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<v Speaker 3>and let's bring in Now we're going to return to

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<v Speaker 3>the exclusive that I had tonight and last night about

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<v Speaker 3>Australians attending the funeral of Terra le To Hassan Nasraala,

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<v Speaker 3>and let's bring in our former Australian Federal Police Detective

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<v Speaker 3>Superintendent and counter terrorism expert David Craig.

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<v Speaker 1>David, thank you very much for your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, do you think Home Affairs and Borderforce should have

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<v Speaker 3>stopped these individuals traveling to Lebanon for the funeral given

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<v Speaker 3>that some were known to authorities?

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<v Speaker 16>Of course, Shari, the answer to that can only be

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<v Speaker 16>of course, there are orders where we could have prevented

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<v Speaker 16>their travel right up the front. The only reason that

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<v Speaker 16>it didn't happen, I would expect is that we didn't

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<v Speaker 16>have active intelligence reporting quickly at the time. Regardless, the

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<v Speaker 16>horse has bolted. As far as I'm leaving the country,

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<v Speaker 16>where we need to exert our pressure now, Shari is

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<v Speaker 16>on them returning. If there was a lack of intelligence

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<v Speaker 16>to stop them leaving Australia, we now have an abundance

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<v Speaker 16>of these people associating with terrorists and advocating for terrorism.

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<v Speaker 16>By attending that funeral, we should be able to prevent them,

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<v Speaker 16>regardless of their status, from coming back to Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if they are Australian citizens, ultimately they have

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<v Speaker 3>to be allowed to return. But Tony Burke does have

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<v Speaker 3>the power to temporarily stop them from returning while the

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<v Speaker 3>investigations are underway.

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<v Speaker 16>That's correct. A temporary exclusion what it can be given,

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<v Speaker 16>and it can keep an Australian citizen that's over fourteen

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<v Speaker 16>years of age outside Australia for up to two years.

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<v Speaker 16>And when we do, if they are successful in getting

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<v Speaker 16>a return permit, then we can put on conditions that

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<v Speaker 16>satisfy and mitigate the threat to the community as they

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<v Speaker 16>come back in. That's what should be happening here. I

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<v Speaker 16>noticed yesterday Mike Burgess, the Director General of Asia, was

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<v Speaker 16>saying that in regard to threats to life, anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 16>was his agency's highest priority. Now at this funeral, we

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<v Speaker 16>had tens of thousands of people, including I suspect the

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<v Speaker 16>Australians chanting death to Israel. I would like to see

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<v Speaker 16>the Director General's actions be as good as his words.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, we also heard the ASIO bus Mike Burgess today

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<v Speaker 3>tell a Senate committee, under questioning from James Patterson, that

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<v Speaker 3>anti Samitism is Australia's top threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 15>What's your senis about the increase in the level of

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<v Speaker 15>antisemitism right now?

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of my organization, our threats are faced, threats

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<v Speaker 4>to life, threats to way of life, in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>threats to life. It's my agency's number one priority because

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<v Speaker 4>of the weight of incidents we're seeing play out in

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<v Speaker 4>this country.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, when would you've ever said before that a form

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<v Speaker 13>of racism was the number one concern for Asier.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe we've done that in.

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<v Speaker 13>A history, David.

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<v Speaker 3>You know thatout wording that this is the greatest threat

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<v Speaker 3>to life, it's truly terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he mean by this?

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<v Speaker 9>What he means is that the loss of life is expected,

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<v Speaker 9>and we are sitting at a terrorism level of probable,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 9>which means more than a fifty percent chance over the

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<v Speaker 9>next twelve months where will be a terrorist attack, there

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 9>will be an antisemitic attack ending in the loss of life.

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 9>That's what Burgess is talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, David Craig really appreciate your time. So

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 3>we're going to take a quick break because we're just

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 3>minutes away from the start of Sheery Aril and Kafir

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Bibas's funeral in Israel.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Will cross live to the eulogies.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also going to bring you that exclusive a bit

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>later on the Bibas family hitting back at Albansi for

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>his callous.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Remarks that's coming up. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're still on standby for the eulogies to begin,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and in the meantime as we wait, we're going to

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 3>keep the vision up there on the screen. But I'm

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 3>going to tell you about how angry the Bibas family

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>are at alban Eazi now. On Monday night, on the show,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I revealed that Albanisi didn't know anything about the grotesque

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 3>coffin display where Palestinians celebrated on stage around the coffins

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 3>of baby Kafir and Ril.

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<v Speaker 5>It is shocking as worthy of condemnation, which is why

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 5>they should have no role in the future.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 10>But on a human level, to see that footage and

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 10>the spectacle that they put on, what was.

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<v Speaker 5>Your reaction, Well, I haven't seen it, Sam, with respect,

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 5>but but you know this is the atroses that have

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<v Speaker 5>occurred from October seven, quite rightly, have been condemned by

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 5>everyone across all of certainly the major political parties, and

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 5>you know it's horrific what people have gone through.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Bibass family have shared their fury at Albanezi

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 3>over his remarks, which I played for in my editorial

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 3>on Monday night. Jarden's aunt Mikhal, She's lived in Australia

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>for many years. She's of course in Israel at the moment.

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 3>It has been for weeks now. She wrote a Facebook

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<v Speaker 3>post that she sent to me this morning and gave

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>me permission to share, and she said she was ashamed

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>to be an Australian.

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>She said.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Albanezi claimed he hadn't seen the horrific footage of the

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 3>coffins of our babies Ariel and Kafir being grotesquely paraded,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>all the appalling mistake made with Shiri's remains.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Even when confronted.

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 3>He failed to articulate how he feels about it. He

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>acknowledges that Hermas is a terror organization. Yet this government

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>and in particular Penny One, continues to direct our tax

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 3>dollars to Hermas Unra, despite undeniable evidence of their close ties.

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 3>The government must go. The upcoming elections cannot come soon enough.

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<v Speaker 3>That is from the Bibas family. From Yarden's aunt Michal,

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<v Speaker 3>She also spoke about her devastation. She said, while we

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>celebrate the release of my beloved nephew Yard and Bibbas,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 3>who was held hostage by these monsters, our joy is

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>overshadowed by unimaginable grief for the brutal, gruesome murder of

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Yarden's family, Shiri Riel and baby Kafir at the hands

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 3>of Hermas, a terror organization elected and supported by Gazans.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>As the footage from before during an hour after October

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 3>seven makes painfully clear, she says, I will never forget

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 3>and never forgive those who harmed my family and my people,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 3>the monsters who carried out these atrocities, those who supported them,

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and those who had the power to act but chose

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>to stay silent in the face of this pure evil.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Now very strong words, extremely strong words. Therefrom an aunt,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 3>who is hurting right now, she is at that funeral.

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 3>She sent that message to me this morning, thanking us

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>for our coverage, which obviously she does not need to do.

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 3>All of our hearts are with the Bibas family. We

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>will forever love baby Kafir, Ariel and Shurian. We're looking

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 3>at the screen right now, waiting for the eulogy to begin.

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 3>As these live pictures are coming through, you can see

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>the Israelis turning out in the masses.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the darkest.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Days in Israel's history, burying a nine month old baby, Ariel,

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<v Speaker 3>the four year old brother. We think now that we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the funeral procession, the coffins of baby Kafir

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and Ariel and Shiri are now going through the streets

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 3>on their way to the funeral at their kibbutz, their

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 3>home where they were kidnapped from their beds in their pajamas.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>A nine month old.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Baby murdered by Palestinian terrorists. A month later when he

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>was just ten months old. His four year old brother

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>two Kafir never got to his first birthday. He never

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 3>made it to his first birthday. And now today Israel

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 3>is out showing solidarity with the trauma and devastation of

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>this family, and the whole world is watching. Every rational,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 3>good hearted person in the world. Our hearts are with

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the Bibas family right now. They're with the Yarden father

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>and husband who is right now about to have the

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 3>worst moment in his life burying.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>His wife and his two little baby boys.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely senseless, horrible, cruel murder.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>There's no reason for it.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>And you think about how their kidnapping was celebrated by Palestinians,

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>civilians and Hamas supporters in Gaza. This is the procession.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 3>We're seeing that now that tens of thousands of Israelis

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 3>have come out to pay their respects, and right now

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>this is hostage Square in Tel Aviv. A lot of

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 3>people gathered around the screens because while the funeral is private,

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 3>it will be broadcast live. It will be in Hebrew.

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm hearing that it is running late at this point

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>in time, and where we just saw their live pictures

0:34:55.920 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 3>of the cars as they make their way through this. Okay,

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>we're going to come back to this, but let's bring

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 3>in now for some reaction and what will keep those

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 3>live pictures on the screen. Let's bring in our liberal

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 3>national senator James McGrath. James, what's your reaction to this?

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<v Speaker 3>What we're seeing right now? Israel out in force burying

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 3>a baby, a child, a loving mother, James McGrath, burying

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>a mum.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And two children who were murdered. All of Israel, but

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>all of us who believe in a civilized society. Are

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>it just so down and so sad at the moment

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>because the Bibas family represent the hatred that has been

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>visited upon Israel by Hamas and all the other terrorist

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>groups and terror states who want to destroy that country

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and the civilizations that lie within Israel. And that's why

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Australia must stand with Israel. And that's why Australians must

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 2>stand with the Bibbers family, and that's why we must

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>bring them all home because there are still hostages being

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>held by a mus And this is what I think

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>some Australians have forgotten about, is that there are still

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>people being held by this terrorist organization. So it is

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a very very sad day. But also Shari, it's why

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>we must make a stand against anti Semitism. This is

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>why Australians must come together and shout at those people

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>who allow anti Semitism to grow.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And you just think about the support that this movement

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 3>James has had in the west On University campuses, at

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 3>international institutions, United Nations, the push even by our own

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Foreign minister to recognize Palestinian statehood at the United Nations,

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 3>despite the fact that did this, that did this to

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 3>baby Kafir and Ril and Sheerry, despite the fact they

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 3>are still the governing body in Gaza. And you just

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 3>wonder where all sense, reason, rationality and morality has gone

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in the world.

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about this?

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>It has left the building in a way because you

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>have politicians in Australia, and you have political parties in Australia,

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and I am going to call out the Greens political

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>party who are, in my view, a racist and anti

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Semitic party, a party who support the BDS movement, a

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:48.760
<v Speaker 2>party who refused to support the definition of anti Semitisms

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>as written and as agreed by over thirty countries, including Australia,

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>a bipartisan approach the definition of anti Semitism. The Greens

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>are the only party in this st Israelia have refused

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to accept that definition of anti Semitism. So it's my job,

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's your job, and it's everybody watching this program

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and everybody who goes onto my social media channels and

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>looks at when we call out the Greens, and we

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>call out these people who attack Israel and attack a

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>fellow liberal democracy and fail to attack mus and fail

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to call for the return of all hostages.

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, and you know, we often hear from the likes

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 3>of certainly the Greens, but even from Albanezi government ministers.

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 3>You hear more often criticism of Israel than you do

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the demand for the hostages to be returned. I mean,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 3>how often has any Albanezi government minister spoken about the

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Bibast family. Now, just to update you on what's going

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 3>on at the moment, the procession is heading towards southern

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Israel to Kibbutz near Oz.

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It's on its way. It is running late.

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 3>The eulogies were meant to begin at eleven thirty in

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>the morning Israel time, which is eight thirty pm Our time, but.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>It is running late.

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I can also tell you the Knesset, that's the Israeli Parliament,

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 3>has just held a minute silence for the Bibass family.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Masses tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 3>have turned out to pay their respect to The footage

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at now live is from Hostage Square.

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>In Tel Aviv. You might be able to hear the

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>music as.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, where Israelis are waiting for the.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Start of this funeral.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:34.439
<v Speaker 3>Because this family, the Bibast family, has captured the hearts

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>of all Israelis and many of us around the world

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 3>as well. All we wanted to see, all we were

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 3>praying for, is to see the safe return of baby

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Kafir and Baby Ariel and their mother Shiri and James,

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 3>for me, the images of and as a mother myself,

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 3>the images of Shiri as she tried to hold and

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>protect her children. She held them close to her chest,

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>baby Kafir and Ariel, as she was being shuffled and

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 3>pulled around.

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>By terrorists, by.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Palestinian terrorists and civilians who kidnapped her. And she was

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 3>just in the greatest of distress trying to protect her babies.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>And you just can't bear.

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 3>We now know, just in the past few days, we've

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.959
<v Speaker 3>learned just how brutal and violent their murders were.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That they were murdered by bare hands.

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 3>That is what Yarden has given permission for the world

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to know, that they were.

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Murdered violently by bare hands.

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't get worse than this, James, and now

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 3>here we are about to watch their funeral, about to

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 3>watch these beautiful children be.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Laid to rest.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't get worse then seeing two young children who

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 2>have been murdered. This is why sometimes in politics and

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 2>life there is a moral clarity, is a difference between

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>light and darkness. And what happened on Israel on the

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>seventh October was the darkest of days, but it is

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>it is a wake up call to all of us

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that we must defend our fellow citizens,

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 2>our fellow Jewish citizens in Australia and understand that there

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 2>was a choice to be made between lightness and dark

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 2>between this coming election. And I don't want to politicize

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>what's going on in Israel at the moment, but in

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Australia there is a fight over the moral clarity of

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 2>the future direction of this country. The weak leadership of

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanezi, who has allowed anti Semitism to become such

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>a serious security issue in this country, or someone like

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton, Will Will who will strengthen our resolve and

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 2>stand up for Jewish Australians.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 3>The contrast, the contrast couldn't be greater.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>James McGrath, thank you very much for your time.

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>We're going to leave it there because we're going to

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:04.280
<v Speaker 3>cross now to Nicole Zedek from twenty four in Israel.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 3>We're going to bring Nicole Zedek in I twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>it Israel. Nicole, thank you very much for your time. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>President Isaac Herzog has just released a statement. We're waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for the funeral to begin of the Bibas family. Isaac

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Herzog has just released a statement very moving. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>the entire country and entire people are in a time

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 3>of mourning. He says, all of us and entire people

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 3>with broken hearts are accompanying them to eternal rest. This

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 3>is not how we prayed for them to return to us.

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 3>In our mind's eye, we saw them returning, shining with

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 3>their golden heads, with the lively, playful gaze that shine

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 3>in their little eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole, Israel is grieving today.

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<v Speaker 17>Israel is certainly grieving today. It's an unofficial day of mourning.

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 17>As you see on the screen, tens of thousands of

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 17>people who have been taking to the streets following this

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 17>funeral procession as it made its way from central Israel

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 17>towards southern Israel, where it's still making its way. And

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 17>one of the reasons that it was delayed was because

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 17>of the masses of people that followed this funeral procession

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 17>every step of the way to give one final goodbye

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 17>to the Bevis family. And there's a very difficult day

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 17>here in Israel. As you see, if not only the

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 17>wave and sea of Israeli fags, but those orange balloons

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 17>that have also become a symbol of those two little

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 17>red headed boys and their mother Sharri as well, and

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 17>so it's incredibly difficult. But also this can provide some

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 17>sort of closure for many of the Israeli public, finally

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 17>seeing them lay dressed after more than five hundred days

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 17>in terror captivity. But many of the family members and

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 17>many of the Israeli publics say that even though they

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 17>are seeing this funeral procession and these three souls finally

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 17>buried here in Israel, they can't actually get that closure

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 17>until all of the hostages are back home. As we're

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 17>speaking right now, there are still sixty three hostages in

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 17>the Gazastre. Four more bodies or expected to be released

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 17>either today or tomorrow. These four bodies included in Fez

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 17>one of the Seaspire deal, where we saw thirty three

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 17>names on that list. But the questions remaining around Phees

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 17>two of this Sea Spire or there could possibly be

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 17>an extension of Phees one or the while sixty three

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 17>people hostages are still in the Gaza Strip. Until they're

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 17>all back home, the Israeli public says that that little

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 17>bit of closure will not be there, and so that

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 17>is also why today is such a difficult and emotional

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 17>day from many people here in Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is indeed out for the Jewish community in

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 3>particular around the world, but as well anyone who has

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 3>any goodness in their hearts will be absolutely devastated.

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a dark day for everyone. Nicole.

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<v Speaker 3>You just mentioned there that the funeral is delayed because

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 3>of just how many Israelis turned out to show their support.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 3>So we're waiting for that still to begin. It was

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>meant to begin about twenty minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us how the the eulogies will work.

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<v Speaker 3>Who we're expecting to hear from very shortly.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, we've already heard some of statements coming out from

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 17>the b Beast family yard and Bivas his sister in fact,

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 17>so the sister in law of Shari Vivas already stating

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 17>that we're watching with grief, and Yarden wishes that he

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 17>could hug every single one of the people of the

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 17>masses of Israelis that are accompanying him and his family

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 17>on this emotional and devastating day, and he says that

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 17>he hopes one day soon that the Israeli public will

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 17>not only be united in grief, but in more joyful

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 17>times and so that's so far the message that we're

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 17>hearing from the Bibas family. We'll likely hear more emotional

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 17>eulogies from the Biba's family, from Shii's sister as well,

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 17>the only living member of her family still alive, as

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 17>far as the sister of Shii, as Shiri's two parents

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 17>were also killed on October seventh during the massacre at

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 17>their home in kutznir Oz. And so this is also

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 17>a difficult day because it brings many of those emotions

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 17>back from October seventh, and it's a grim reminder of

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 17>the reality that the people here in Israel have been

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 17>facing and coming to terms with over the past sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 17>This is a grim reality when you watch some of

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 17>these funerals, seeing which family members are present to give

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 17>a eulogy and which family members are not present to

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 17>see their daughter being laid dressed. And so we will

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 17>be hearing some of those emotional eulogies later in the day,

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 17>possibly even hearing from President Isaac Kertzog as well. We

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 17>heard from yesterday as Odin Liftschit's eighty three year old

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 17>peace activist who was also one of the bodies returned,

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 17>along with sharing Ril and Kmerbibus voted. Liftschitz was also

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 17>laid dressed at his home in kabutznair Oz just yesterday,

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 17>and we heard from Isaac Kurtzog then as well as

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 17>oh had Liftschit's wife, you Heaven lift Chits, who was

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 17>also kidnapped on October seventh. These are two peace activists

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 17>who spent their life transporting Palescindians from the Gaza Strip

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 17>to receive proper healthcare here and Is. And so you

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 17>haven't said what it was so shocking about their abduction

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 17>was that they were kidnapped, But it's very seen people

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 17>that they spent their life trying to help, and so

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 17>we're expected to hear some very more emotional bulogies. And

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 17>you can see everyone here on is anxiously waiting and

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 17>coming together and really trying to support each other through

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 17>this difficult day.

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned Odad Lifshits, and you

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 3>know the reality that he had spent his whole life

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 3>helping Palestinians trying to achieve peace. And this has been

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 3>a big wake up coll because we know we can

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 3>see there's no pretending Hamas doesn't want peace. It merely

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 3>exists to bring murder and destruction.

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>The fact that it can target a.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiny baby, a child, their loving mother. This is why

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 3>we're watching this funeral procession. And not only were they

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 3>kidnapped from their homes, their beds, they were murdered by

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:56.240
<v Speaker 3>bare hands.

0:47:56.520 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Kafir. The violent death at just ten months old so traumatic.

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>You can't even imagine.

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.280
<v Speaker 3>A baby killed by terrorists like this in a movement

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 3>that's one so much support Nicole around the world, including

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 3>here in Australia.

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>A baby that.

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Never got to celebrate his first birthday and the world

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 3>is watching as he's buried today.

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<v Speaker 17>And Shary what you're speaking about right now, this shock

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 17>and this surprise. I think it does speak to the

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 17>Israeli safety as well, because even after the October seventh massacre,

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 17>where Israel was shown firsthand the cruelty of this terror

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 17>group inside Gaza that indiscriminately murdered Israelis, Christians, Muslims, foreign

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.439
<v Speaker 17>workers who are here just working the agricultural fields. Five

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 17>of them still captive in Gaza. They're part of those

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 17>sixty three that are still there. They have no ties

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 17>from Israel. We're talking about a Nepalese, a Tanzanian and

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 17>a Thai worker that are still in Gaza. And so

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 17>that talks about the indiscriminate heat and cruelty we saw

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 17>from Hamas. It's still following October seventh, when we saw

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.800
<v Speaker 17>the and heard about the cruelty that these tear groups

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 17>did in the way that they killed those two little

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 17>GiB Us boy as well as Shari, Israeli public was

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 17>once again shocked. And that's what surprises many of us

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 17>when you hear this news. How can we again and

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 17>again be shocked by the cruelty. But that's the Israeli spirit,

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 17>and that's the spirit even of Odd Liftshitz and No Heaven.

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 17>We spent their life trying to make peace with those

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 17>people across the border. And every time that we hear

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 17>another wake up call, and we're facing one of those

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 17>wake up calls today with the funeral of Shari, Ariel

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 17>and Kafir. It's shocking that Israel can still be shocked

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.720
<v Speaker 17>by the cruelty of the Tearan group that is in Gaza.

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 17>Yet still there's these remnants of hope that Israel thinks

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 17>that they can continue to move past some of these

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 17>darkest days. I think that's what brings the Israeli public together,

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 17>those moments of hope that they can continue to cling

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.279
<v Speaker 17>onto despite the horrors and the cruel to you we

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 17>continue to learn about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, Nicoleztek, really appreciate your time.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for joining us on this terrible,

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>sad day in Israel.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 3>And we're going to stay with these pictures. We're waiting

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 3>now for the eulogy to begin. We'll bring you the

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 3>live pictures as they come. This is what the international

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 3>news agencies are playing. But let's bring in now for

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<v Speaker 3>more analysis. Sky News contributed Kosher Gada Kosher.

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 1>It's against this.

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<v Speaker 3>Backdrop that we are that Donald Trump is having conversations

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 3>with Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yaho about how to

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 3>move forward, about whether to move on to the second

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>phase of the hostage deal, which would mean that Israel

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 3>needs to withdraw from the Gaza strip, or do they

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 3>go in and defeat Hamas once and for all. That

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:56.280
<v Speaker 3>was always a goal of this war, as Benjamin Netanya

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 3>who outlined it. But as we've seen in recent times,

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:04.280
<v Speaker 3>though they have been you know, thoroughly decimated, their leadership

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 3>has been killed. There is a strong movement there Hamas

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 3>is still in control in Gaza Kosha Gata.

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, absolutely, and what a dash are you know? There

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 18>are a few tragedies in the world, and a world

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.879
<v Speaker 18>that unfortunately sees many tragedies that really elicit the kind

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 18>of visceral reaction that this one is from around the world,

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 18>as you've been covering throughout the hour, And that word

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 18>you use, backdrop is so critical because it does sort

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 18>of refocus or remind the world a little bit about

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 18>the fundamentals of this conflict and that evil exists and

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 18>how do you address it. So with that backdrop, you're right,

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 18>I mean, I think it does have some impact. And

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.919
<v Speaker 18>the way that whole negotiation is going to play out,

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 18>I think President Trump is going to continue with his

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.280
<v Speaker 18>view of being very, very supportive and a strong ally

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 18>of Israel to do what they must for defending their

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 18>sovereignty and their national security, ale still maintaining as much

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 18>non introventionalism as possible because that is part of his agenda,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 18>And I think he's going to try and continue to

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 18>thread that needle. But I think the pictures that we're

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 18>seeing now in this momental hero definitely please a rule

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.280
<v Speaker 18>and just how the optics as well as the policy

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 18>is going to shap and this is.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 3>A deep moment, a major movement for everyone around the world.

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 3>This has been front page news in most international newspapers

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Argentina because the Bibest family were part Argentinian as well

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 3>as Israeli, and in fact there are Australian members of

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:39.919
<v Speaker 3>the Bibast family, as I've been speaking about tonight. Yet

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Argentina has had a two day morning period for Kafia

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 3>and ril buildings right around the world have been illuminated

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 3>in orange lights out of respect. Australia has done nothing

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Kosher Gada. Our leaders have barely spoken about the Bibass

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:57.720
<v Speaker 3>family at all.

0:52:58.320 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>This is a major deal.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, this is truly one of the darkest moments for Israel,

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 3>but also big news right around the world. Just the

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 3>reality of laying to rest a baby and a four

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 3>year old and their mother who were killed by terrorists,

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and it just feels, especially the Prime Minister and the

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Foreign Minister pennywe really have underestimated the brutality of this

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 3>and just how much the story of the Bibat family

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 3>has resonated with people, not just the Jewish community, but

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:34.720
<v Speaker 3>people right around the world.

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 18>Yes, you've been making that point so effectively all week

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:42.760
<v Speaker 18>and that clip that we saw of the Prime minister,

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 18>and it's been our two days since then and still nothing,

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 18>which can only lead us to one conclusion that it

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 18>is a deliberate calculation. I hate to use that word

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 18>on a day like this, but there might be a

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 18>political calculation there where the left wing of politics right now,

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 18>in an election year over here, is trying to walk

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 18>that line of constituents in the bass, the Labor Party

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 18>base that they want to appease, if you will, with

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 18>the controversies and the aspects of this conflict that have

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 18>not had consensus in that base, and that's kind of

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 18>what they're.

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Either playing to or pandering to.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 18>But I really think it's such a it's wrong, immral,

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 18>But it's also a missed opportunity because moments like these,

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 18>as sad as they are, they can actually be very unifying.

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 18>It's a way to come across as very statesman like.

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 18>There's so many examples of where this has happened in

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 18>the world before. After September eleventh, I remember Queen Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 18>had the Changing of the Guard, played a star spangled

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<v Speaker 18>banner which had never been done before, for instance. So

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<v Speaker 18>there's a real opportunity here to show what's right and

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<v Speaker 18>wrong and evil and good and all of that, while

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<v Speaker 18>also actually shoring up your bona fides as a statesman.

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<v Speaker 18>And I think it's very conspicuous that that has not

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<v Speaker 18>happened in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>In data it has.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, if you're watching now, if you've just tuned in,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking at live pictures from Hostage Square, what's known

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<v Speaker 3>as Hostage Square in Tel.

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<v Speaker 1>Aviv, Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis have

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<v Speaker 3>come out to the street to watch the funeral of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bibas family, baby Kafir, brother Ariel, and mother Shiri.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a private funeral for the family near Vekibuts

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<v Speaker 3>in southern Israel, near the border with Gaza, but it

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<v Speaker 3>will be broadcast lives. So you're looking at Israeli's standing

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for that funeral to begin, for the eulogies to begin,

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<v Speaker 3>when we will hear from Yarden, father and husband for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time. It's one of the darkest days, and

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<v Speaker 3>in truth, we've all fallen in love with these children,

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<v Speaker 3>with their loving mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She battled terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>She held her babies close to her chest, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>protect them.

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<v Speaker 1>She couldn't do so. She would have given anything to

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<v Speaker 1>protect them. She would have given her whole heart to

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<v Speaker 1>protect them.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, today, the darkest of days, their funeral. For

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<v Speaker 3>continuing coverage from Israel, we're running this footage on the

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<v Speaker 3>Election Channel or on the Sky News app. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>all I've got time for today. I'll see you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>at eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now, here's Paul Murray live from Vegas