Speaker 1: We're going to hours very sixty rugby league from every
Speaker 1: angle joining me in the great Good and Tallis. It's been
Speaker 1: the general Australian James Hooper, Michael Carrianas and big news
Speaker 1: today Lachlan Galvin's heading for the exit at the West Tigers.
Speaker 1: He is allowed to negotiate with rival clubs and has
Speaker 1: been told that he will not be there beyond this season.
Speaker 1: I think June thirty, I'm hearing what's the latest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could move as early as this week, And
Speaker 2: it looks like Lockey Galvin potentially has played his last
Speaker 2: game for the West Tigers. Look, it's been on ongoing
Speaker 2: saga for the last couple of months. Looks like we're
Speaker 2: going to get closer to a resolution. There's still a
Speaker 2: few things that need to play out, including the transfer fee,
Speaker 2: including that legal matter that that's going on at the
Speaker 2: moment between the Galvin camp and the West Tigers. If
Speaker 2: they get all these things sorted, Locky Galvin has played
Speaker 2: his last game.
Speaker 1: To transfer fee and also the legal battle has that
Speaker 1: been scrapped not yet.
Speaker 3: Not yet.
Speaker 2: So we start with the transfer fee first, Gray, So
Speaker 2: the West Tigers will put about essentially a bounty on
Speaker 2: Locky Galvin's head and what that value is going to be.
Speaker 2: We're not sure that's what they're talking about at the moment.
Speaker 2: We saw the Bulldogs spend five hundred thousand dollars for
Speaker 2: Carl Alaapu a couple.
Speaker 3: Of years ago.
Speaker 2: Is that a benchmark? Is that the parameters that clubs
Speaker 2: could base themselves on. Speaking to a few clubs today
Speaker 2: not involved in these, they think five hundreds excessive. So
Speaker 2: they're thinking around, you know, potentially the land between the
Speaker 2: two to three hundred thousand dollars it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 1: So a lot would depend on what money he's on
Speaker 1: right before a transfer fee or not.
Speaker 3: They're irrelevant. It's just up to the club.
Speaker 2: The West Tigers could ask for two million dollars, It doesn't,
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Doree with that though, is no one will pay too much?
Speaker 3: No, no, of course, ye. Yeah, but Braith was just asking
Speaker 3: where that number comes to.
Speaker 1: Just back to that because I think about this and
Speaker 1: I think if they have negotiated that the transfer fee
Speaker 1: needs to be paid and Galvin's camp are okay with that,
Speaker 1: that suggests to me that they have someone lined up,
Speaker 1: maybe a club that are happy to pay that transfer fee.
Speaker 2: Well you think so, but you think that a club,
Speaker 2: you know, as long as the money is not ridiculous,
Speaker 2: you think a club would stump up for a player
Speaker 2: of Lucky's caliber to get himTo the club. And it's
Speaker 2: important to know it doesn't come out of your salary cap,
Speaker 2: so it's out of there.
Speaker 5: So how does that help the bottom clubs?
Speaker 6: So the Tigers did a great deal with this young kid,
Speaker 6: potentially got him to where he is, and now he
Speaker 6: wants to leave and they can't get anything for him.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is that lose lose for the West Tigers.
Speaker 2: It has been from the beginning. They can't win this situation.
Speaker 2: When you've got a star player who's not on a
Speaker 2: lot of money next year that wants to leave, you
Speaker 2: can't win.
Speaker 4: I'd transferred.
Speaker 7: I've heard the transfer fee will in all likelihood land
Speaker 7: around one hundred and fifty one thousand dollars, which when
Speaker 7: you consider that he's on three hundred, that seems about
Speaker 7: the right number. But I think what's hard to wrap
Speaker 7: your head around, and to Gordon's point, is the West Tigers,
Speaker 7: for all the tough talk we saw the statement released
Speaker 7: on April or fourteenth. We won't be budging, which I've
Speaker 7: spoken about the crocodile roll. He delivered the Winston Churchill
Speaker 7: style of speech that we won't be rolling over and
Speaker 7: releasing this kid under any circumstances.
Speaker 8: I said Rich, I said he'd be seeing out the
Speaker 8: contract here. It is here. This is the club statement.
Speaker 8: You want to go through. This hoops for us.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, This was Riche's words April fourteen. It should be
Speaker 7: noted that the club has no intention of releasing Lachlan
Speaker 7: from his contract and he has not requested this then Wednesday,
Speaker 7: April twenty three. Lachland Governor is a great person.
Speaker 4: He is a junior.
Speaker 7: He's come through the club. He's going to be with
Speaker 7: us for the next eighteen months. The bottom line from
Speaker 7: the club's point of view is he is here for
Speaker 7: the next eighteen months. So fighting words from rich at
Speaker 7: the time, and I think he received a lot of
Speaker 7: widespread support around the game for wanting to be staunch,
Speaker 7: for not letting Isaac Mazes simply bend them over and
Speaker 7: try and create an issue that meant he had to
Speaker 7: be released from the club.
Speaker 8: It's change Hoops.
Speaker 7: Well, clearly the legal issue has been simmering in the
Speaker 7: back around the entire time, and the Tigers have realized
Speaker 7: they're on a hiding to nothing and that has become untenable.
Speaker 4: But it's just it's hard.
Speaker 7: To stomach break given how staunched they were and how
Speaker 7: strong it appeared they were going to be, and the
Speaker 7: support that they got from a lot of other rival
Speaker 7: clubs about Britain, prepared to make a statement, and yet
Speaker 7: now all of a sudden the shift.
Speaker 8: Does this mean that Laughlin Galvin's manager has one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it does.
Speaker 8: How do you think? What do you guys think? And
Speaker 8: didn't feel about that.
Speaker 6: I just feel sorryful the clubs down the bottom being
Speaker 6: feeder clubs to the top clubs, you know, like they
Speaker 6: did a great deal. When can a club, as I
Speaker 6: can repeat myself again, go and do a great deal.
Speaker 6: The kid was there, he was happy to sign the deal,
Speaker 6: and the manager signed him to the deal. But then
Speaker 6: the manager goes, while the deal is not good, but
Speaker 6: can they do a great deal?
Speaker 5: Well, that was a good deal for the Tigers.
Speaker 3: If it was.
Speaker 2: You know, they did offer him a massive extension and
Speaker 2: upgrade for next season, right, so if he were to
Speaker 2: start at the club, he would he would have got
Speaker 2: a better deal, right I with their clubs can't do
Speaker 2: a good long term deal. They might be able to
Speaker 2: get twelve months out of a good deal, but they
Speaker 2: can never do a long term, a good long term
Speaker 2: deal anymore, the way that the parameters of the rules
Speaker 2: are at the moment.
Speaker 7: But the frustrating thing is there was a lot of
Speaker 7: powerful people in the game who thought good on the Tigers.
Speaker 7: They have actually shown some stains here and they are
Speaker 7: going to fight for a contract and fight for what
Speaker 7: they believe in. And Lachland's a local junior who's come
Speaker 7: through their system. They allowed him to debut at age
Speaker 7: eighteen years of age. He wouldn't have got that opportunity
Speaker 7: at any other club. But because of the pressure and
Speaker 7: the agitation and the manipulation, they've been forced into this scenario.
Speaker 8: With the Tigers, I think what, I don't have an
Speaker 8: issue of what they've done. I don't think they've lost.
Speaker 8: I think they could prove to have won at the
Speaker 8: end of all this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's been so you think it's
Speaker 1: good to get rid of get rid of Galvin, get
Speaker 1: rid of him. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: this team, this club is bigger than one player. You know,
Speaker 1: look at the turnaround, look at what Benji was doing.
Speaker 1: Look at the players in there that we're thriving. You've
Speaker 1: got Little Y and the likes. All their players have
Speaker 1: got better. Yeah, they've lost the last two weeks. You
Speaker 1: got to say that that's got a lot to do
Speaker 1: with what's happening in this huge distraction.
Speaker 8: Now, this has come from nowhere.
Speaker 1: This was a curve ball from him and his management
Speaker 1: and their team which really unsettled and derailed a club
Speaker 1: that was on the rise. Do you want that in
Speaker 1: your club? Do you want that a part of your team?
Speaker 1: Do you want to play next to that guy? You
Speaker 1: know what, see you later. I don't see any issue
Speaker 1: with it. I think the club has taken the right stands.
Speaker 1: We can say, yes, the manager want and he has
Speaker 1: and it's not good and we shouldn't allow this. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know what, the
Speaker 1: Tigers had to go in and so see you later.
Speaker 1: They gave him a chance over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: They got beat sixty four nil and he dropped the
Speaker 1: ball over the line to win in the game on
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 8: So you know, at the end of the day, Why
Speaker 8: do you want that in your club?
Speaker 7: They're all very no, they're not very fair and salient
Speaker 7: points break Why bother with the lip service statement six
Speaker 7: weeks ago, right, and why implode the joint.
Speaker 4: The way that they did.
Speaker 7: That's all on West Tigers, that's all on Shane Richardson.
Speaker 7: Because what they could have done when the agent said,
Speaker 7: you know what, don't even bother making the offer, we're
Speaker 7: not interested is they could have said, okay, but they
Speaker 7: don't put anything out of statement out the agent, don't
Speaker 7: hold a gun to their head.
Speaker 8: The agent got in a gutter and went legal on
Speaker 8: because of the social.
Speaker 7: They allowed the agent to get in the gutter by
Speaker 7: putting the statement out. Right, If they don't put that
Speaker 7: statement out, the players don't make the Instagram posts and
Speaker 7: then we don't end up with the shit.
Speaker 1: So that's a fair point. You may if you look
Speaker 1: at it that way, you're right. I mean, but I
Speaker 1: still think they've done the right thing regardless. You know,
Speaker 1: I know I'm not saying the statement was the right thing.
Speaker 1: You make a good point there, that's a very good
Speaker 1: point because they have got a reaction from the agent
Speaker 1: gaining some ammunition, then got off the back of the
Speaker 1: players in their posts. But it wasn't even the post.
Speaker 1: I mean that the accusations, the accusations were not just
Speaker 1: the post. We don't know exactly what they were, but
Speaker 1: we know that they weren't just the post. They were
Speaker 1: saying that he was bullied at training as well from
Speaker 1: players like you know, I just I actually don't want
Speaker 1: to just put this on Isaac, you know, because it's
Speaker 1: not just him. You know, You've got He's not a child,
Speaker 1: you know, Lock and Galvin. He's not a child, and
Speaker 1: his parents are well behind this as well.
Speaker 6: So it's not just your role playing State of Origin.
Speaker 6: It's played ten games. That's going to Mark Latrell. We
Speaker 6: ask a lot of our guys and when you play NRL,
Speaker 6: and you know, I think Melmoninger played State of Ogon
Speaker 6: at twenty as well, so he's old enough to make
Speaker 6: his own decisions.
Speaker 5: He's driving cars, and there's a lot.
Speaker 6: Of blokes before his time did a lot tougher things
Speaker 6: than go there and play rugby league.
Speaker 8: I just like I want to feel sorry for him.
Speaker 5: I feel sorry for the Tiger.
Speaker 8: But I feel sorry for the Tigers more I feel
Speaker 8: the fans.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the position that they're in now,
Speaker 1: when only five or six weeks ago everything was flying
Speaker 1: and they are looking great and the season had turned around,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they've been through hell this club.
Speaker 6: But the Tiger's done that, Hoops because this managers stood
Speaker 6: over him for a long long time and they're standing
Speaker 6: up for all their members that go there. There's nothing
Speaker 6: better we talk about the romance of like the gold
Speaker 6: and Black or the black and white. They go at
Speaker 6: the Campbelltown and they're like, and their fans need a
Speaker 6: bit of hope. They've got this young kid that's a
Speaker 6: local junior and he gets naturally him like all the others.
Speaker 5: So what do they do?
Speaker 7: It became so a motive Gordy because they had the
Speaker 7: flashpoint meeting and at that point none of us knew anything, Right,
Speaker 7: Isaac Mass and Lachlan Galvin going to Richo's office at
Speaker 7: the club's Concord headquarters, no one knew that that was
Speaker 7: going on. But off the back of that, because of
Speaker 7: our robust and volatile and nasty that that meeting got,
Speaker 7: you know, Isaac's gone him with a list of grievances,
Speaker 7: primarily all aimed at Benji's coaching rich A trist to
Speaker 7: put the sixth Moon offer on the table. Isaac says,
Speaker 7: don't even bother because when I'm staying here, we're going
Speaker 7: to be looking for better coaching and going to another club.
Speaker 7: So the Tigers have got an option there. They can
Speaker 7: either say, okay, no worries, Well, you're going to see
Speaker 7: it your contract here because you're signed here until the
Speaker 7: end of twenty twenty six, or you can go the
Speaker 7: other road, which was pulled a pin out of Handker
Speaker 7: put that statement out. But a statement you think that
Speaker 7: they would have stayed in house or no, it would
Speaker 7: have all got out caught, It would have all got
Speaker 7: out within.
Speaker 4: A very short space of time.
Speaker 7: But if they'd rather than put the statement out, if
Speaker 7: they just said, you know what, okay, if Thatt's no worries,
Speaker 7: but he's got a deal here and we want him
Speaker 7: to play here, and then the players don't go on
Speaker 7: social media and the bullying accusations aren't able to get
Speaker 7: edge and they aren't granted.
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe they did want him to stay there. Maybe
Speaker 8: they did want it and they did give it a
Speaker 8: chance in the last couple of weeks is like.
Speaker 4: And the other.
Speaker 2: The other point is as well, a lots of fun.
Speaker 2: He's back after the buy as well, a guy that
Speaker 2: you know. All reports are is that you know Jerame
Speaker 2: may want to play with him long term as well.
Speaker 2: So he comes into the situation where he's been injured
Speaker 2: with over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: So he comes back now.
Speaker 2: So the real prospect of Galvin plaining reserve grade after
Speaker 2: the buy would have been a real possibility again, and
Speaker 2: that just would have inflamed the situation even further.
Speaker 1: A good point that you make, then, Hoops, what about
Speaker 1: the signing of didn't have anything to do with this
Speaker 1: quick turn from Galvin and wanting to leave.
Speaker 7: I think there's no doubt in the fullness of time.
Speaker 7: So if you go back, the Tigers went and made
Speaker 7: the big play over the off season ended twenty twenty four, right,
Speaker 7: and they needed to because they desperately needed a Marquis signature.
Speaker 7: They needed a big name and they were coming off
Speaker 7: a couple of wooden spoons. They signed Jerome. That's all fine.
Speaker 7: Then Lockey debuts and has a breakout season for the club.
Speaker 7: His Rookie of the Year for the West Tigers was
Speaker 7: in great form. But then when Jerome arrives I think
Speaker 7: that's definitely unsettled Lockee because up until that point he'd
Speaker 7: burned the golden Boy. Benji had put immense time into him.
Speaker 7: You could definitely say that he was a favorite of
Speaker 7: benjis if you go back to when Bateman left the club,
Speaker 7: John Bateman, that was a blow up because he had
Speaker 7: accused Benji of treating the senior players like kids and
Speaker 7: the kids like senior players, and Lockie was very a
Speaker 7: central figure to that. So I think once Jerome arrived
Speaker 7: that Luckie definitely wasn't feeling the love as much.
Speaker 2: Have you heard anything there, Mick, No, I think Hoops
Speaker 2: has nared it from the entirety of the fact that
Speaker 2: you know, and they're different style of players.
Speaker 3: A Locke it likes to touch the ball a lot.
Speaker 2: For a number six, right, and Jerome initially was happy
Speaker 2: to take a back seat a little bit. But as
Speaker 2: they sort of their attackle wasn't clicking. You know, people
Speaker 2: wanted to see Jerome get his hands on the board
Speaker 2: a bit more as well. So yeah, that combination just hasn't.
Speaker 8: Worked all right.
Speaker 1: Despite Phil Gilds denials, Bulldos coach Cavin Serado was a
Speaker 1: little less convincing when quized on Galvin today.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I've addressed this before, and Gus has
Speaker 9: addressed it. But I only heard the latest updates just
Speaker 9: as I walked into this, So it's not something without
Speaker 9: time to comprehend or talk about.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 9: That's another great question. But honestly or right now, we're
Speaker 9: just worried about tomorrow and night. We want to put
Speaker 9: in a really good performance to finish off his first
Speaker 9: half of the season. Then we've got eight en days
Speaker 9: before our next game to think about where we can
Speaker 9: get better and what we can do. And I'm sure
Speaker 9: I have those conversations in the future.
Speaker 1: Okay, very interesting. Serroudo softens his stance. He's Gus going
Speaker 1: to backtrack, He's this is interesting.
Speaker 8: I mean, I've had everything I had.
Speaker 1: To say about this a couple of weeks ago. None
Speaker 1: of that has changed from my end. So do you
Speaker 1: think the dogs are into it?
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't spoken at the club about it.
Speaker 8: I've tried to.
Speaker 1: I've got zero in return, which makes me think even
Speaker 1: more so.
Speaker 8: You know, I really think they're in the hunt for him.
Speaker 1: I think if they weren't, they would have Serrouto would
Speaker 1: have shut that down. And there's a number of other reasons.
Speaker 1: I think that they're in the hunt for him. And
Speaker 1: I've said that all of that. What do you guys think.
Speaker 7: Well, you're close to the bulldog's breath because you played
Speaker 7: there on a premiership there, you're hearing crickets from there,
Speaker 7: crickets at this point about.
Speaker 8: Every time on this show.
Speaker 1: I know they watch this show every night, and if
Speaker 1: ever we get something wrong or it's just not on
Speaker 1: the mark, I'm told about it swiftly.
Speaker 7: I think the look on Cameron Serraldo's face there and
Speaker 7: the way that he answered the questions that tells a
Speaker 7: thousand words, Like, clearly they're in the mix and they
Speaker 7: are going to have a crack for this kid. Whether
Speaker 7: or not they can execute it at this stage not sure,
Speaker 7: but I would have them as short priced favorites over
Speaker 7: the Paramatter or else at this point in time.
Speaker 3: I don't think your phone's going to ring tonight, Brath.
Speaker 3: I'm seriously.
Speaker 2: I think that all indications are that in the background,
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs have been working towards this, and you know
Speaker 2: it would be a bit of a blow because Paramatter
Speaker 2: want him, no doubt Paramatter, you know they'd love to
Speaker 2: see him back at the club that combination with Mitch
Speaker 2: Moses Dylan Brown going, They've got significant cap space that
Speaker 2: they don't have to make room four. You know, it
Speaker 2: would make sense from all those angles that they can
Speaker 2: just lot him in there. What they would do with
Speaker 2: him this year would be interesting. But as for the
Speaker 2: Bulldogs to parachute him in with a Matt Burton combination,
Speaker 2: it would be two big bodies playing in the halves.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to think all even though I think
Speaker 1: he's a fair chance or a big chance of going there,
Speaker 1: where does he fit in and.
Speaker 8: What position does he play?
Speaker 1: And does he disrupt this season if he goes effective immediately?
Speaker 1: Where does it least some of the players that they've
Speaker 1: already got there.
Speaker 6: And he's not experienced enough to run the dogs, So
Speaker 6: he'd come in for Toby Sexton, Right, that's the one
Speaker 6: that they're sort of hanging out to dry at the moment.
Speaker 5: So who runs the side?
Speaker 1: This is my point, Like, can you imagine the uproar?
Speaker 1: Now they are flying? The dogs are coming first. They
Speaker 1: are a brotherhood. You know, every player is doing their job.
Speaker 5: They're all on the bus.
Speaker 1: They are all on the bus and you've got this
Speaker 1: young star coming who's left the Tigers on the bad terms,
Speaker 1: and you have to drop one of your players who
Speaker 1: could possibly win a premiership this year to let Galvin
Speaker 1: come in. I can't imagine it. I can't imagine it,
Speaker 1: but it's a possibility. I mean, I think if he
Speaker 1: did come in, they wouldn't play him in first grade
Speaker 1: straight away? Is he willing to go back to reserve
Speaker 1: grade for a few weeks? Where would you play? Do
Speaker 1: you play him off the bench but then Bailey Hayward
Speaker 1: loses his spot? Do you put him straight the seven?
Speaker 1: That will never happen? Sex and doing such an amazing job.
Speaker 1: He needs to earn the right too, right and the
Speaker 1: Bulldogs are big on.
Speaker 8: Character, they're big on values.
Speaker 1: That's what surprises me a little bit with all this too.
Speaker 1: That's that's the standards that they uphold. That's what they're
Speaker 1: that Kevin Serato has been building for a long period
Speaker 1: of time and the players have bought in. You know,
Speaker 1: he needs to learn that, he needs he needs to
Speaker 1: earn his stripes. It's fascinating if he goes there, what happens,
Speaker 1: what do they do with him?
Speaker 2: Because it is fascinating that the layer of the pre
Speaker 2: June thirty thing is what has caused this because if
Speaker 2: it was at the end of the season where you
Speaker 2: can understand Toby sexans off contract and it works.
Speaker 1: I think the Bulldogs I'll let you finish me, but
Speaker 1: I think they prefer to get him next year.
Speaker 2: I think Paramattam might be the same as well, break
Speaker 2: because of where do they slaught him in, you know,
Speaker 2: because of Dylan Brown. Dylan Brown's leaving, but what do
Speaker 2: they put him in in the short because Dylan Walker
Speaker 2: is doing such a good job as at fourteen or
Speaker 2: off the bench as well.
Speaker 3: So I think both those clubs.
Speaker 2: But you're right, particularly the Bulldogs because they're flying at
Speaker 2: the moment and you don't want to upset. But do
Speaker 2: you think long term you're the burden Gavin combination?
Speaker 3: Could that work?
Speaker 1: I just think the Bulldogs are so systematic in the
Speaker 1: way that they play that every player has a certain
Speaker 1: role at which they have been executing at a premium,
Speaker 1: like they don't let each other down. They do their job,
Speaker 1: and their jobs are quite simple. You know, even Sexton's
Speaker 1: do it agree? You know, he gets them to the
Speaker 1: right points on the field, he runs at the right times,
Speaker 1: He passes at the right time. He's got a beautiful
Speaker 1: little kicking game and I can see Galvin doing that.
Speaker 1: I mean I can, but Gus has always said they
Speaker 1: need to want to change his game. Well, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: right and easy, the type of person personality player that
Speaker 1: he's willing to go into that club and forgive.
Speaker 5: The players are half back these days.
Speaker 6: Your egos in your pocket because it's what the team needs,
Speaker 6: it's not what you want. And I think when you
Speaker 6: get them like out at six, you can have a
Speaker 6: bit more freedom, you can put your little spin on
Speaker 6: the plane. You saw that with Ezra Man because it
Speaker 6: can become a bit more individual out there. But if
Speaker 6: you're the seven, it's team orientated there. That's what he's going.
Speaker 5: To need to do.
Speaker 7: And from the time that this story initially surfaced, let's
Speaker 7: go back, I think it was two and a half
Speaker 7: three months ago. The first columns Lockeye wasn't quieted, but
Speaker 7: there were columns about the fact that Lockie's next decision
Speaker 7: was going to be all about coaching, wasn't going to
Speaker 7: be about money. It was going to be what was
Speaker 7: going to improve his football development the most. And if
Speaker 7: you look at all the available options that are on
Speaker 7: the board at the moment. You'd have to think what
Speaker 7: Cameron Serraldo has been able to do it Canterbury and
Speaker 7: the fact that he's mentor Luke Veller is an assistant.
Speaker 6: But the Great Judge said that he looks more like
Speaker 6: a thirteen moving forward.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's what the Tiger's probably always a
Speaker 2: ear marking for until he burst onto the season. Did
Speaker 2: go to improve his defense before is definitely defend in
Speaker 2: the middle of the.
Speaker 1: Can learn that the dogs. Let's just wrap it with this.
Speaker 1: You're not knocking him back if begin him at the
Speaker 1: right price, if you're any.
Speaker 2: Club, if you're a top four side, and you can
Speaker 2: paratry it someone in like Lucky Gower, because who knows
Speaker 2: what can happen in terms of injuries, isn't it like?
Speaker 3: But it is all about team dynamic and that's will
Speaker 3: be the test.
Speaker 1: It's going to be about how whoever gets him manages him,
Speaker 1: the situation, the club, the team. That's what it's all about. Now,
Speaker 1: let's move on, get the popcorn out.
Speaker 5: Actually, over the.
Speaker 8: Next few weeks this is going to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: Lebronco is in damage control really over the rees Walsh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't laugh Walsh video.
Speaker 8: A lot of people taking this very seriously and thought
Speaker 8: it was not good. You can probably.
Speaker 1: Social media get noise of how I feel about this.
Speaker 8: By the way, I just delivered that.
Speaker 1: But what do you guys think of this incident with
Speaker 1: Reese Walsh?
Speaker 6: Aren't they best mates at a birthday party? Doing it
Speaker 6: for TikTok storm.
Speaker 4: At a teacup?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 7: I think he's only got the big sixteen ounce gloves on.
Speaker 7: That's his best mate as well.
Speaker 4: He does get him.
Speaker 7: Flush in the indra will say that, but yeah, on
Speaker 7: in the background, what was that most Friday night?
Speaker 4: So I didn't think there was too much And I
Speaker 4: think we've all.
Speaker 8: Done worse than this. Let's be honest.
Speaker 6: Now, I think we haven't posted it and they're I'm
Speaker 6: not worried about about it.
Speaker 5: They're consistent.
Speaker 3: What should happened to him?
Speaker 5: They're not doing anything to you.
Speaker 4: But what I was surprised runs that club.
Speaker 1: What I was surprised was that the club was really
Speaker 1: upset about it and on the front foot about it
Speaker 1: and not happy with it. And normally with a situation
Speaker 1: like this, they defend the player and they come out
Speaker 1: and say you know what you know, slap on the wrist.
Speaker 8: We don't like it. Not a good look, but really
Speaker 8: is it the end of the world? But they were
Speaker 8: quite staunch on their reaction.
Speaker 7: I think they've had to be break off the back
Speaker 7: of the part of ways with Marty tip out last
Speaker 7: week for liking an Instagram post, so already waited in the.
Speaker 8: Did he really get sacked for life?
Speaker 3: He didn't get sacked.
Speaker 2: He gave him his money, he got didn't died.
Speaker 3: He didn't get sacked, get sacked over that?
Speaker 7: He got booted out the door right because he.
Speaker 2: He wasn't playing first grade, had fallen out of favor.
Speaker 2: I get all that right. They gave him his money
Speaker 2: and left the club. He's not sacked. But break is
Speaker 2: asking you're asking if that did he get sacked because
Speaker 2: of that Instagram?
Speaker 3: He obviously didn't it this way?
Speaker 6: Will they throw you out the door or they asked
Speaker 6: you to leave until you You've had.
Speaker 3: To get all that right, But breath, what was your question?
Speaker 5: Still kicked out? Was he forced out?
Speaker 4: Was he forced out for liking an Instagram?
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of other factors, right, like,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's gone mad over this, and and just saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he's liked an Instagram posts. He's been sacked, right, But
Speaker 1: there would have been a hell of a lot going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. There's obviously been a relationship that's
Speaker 1: been fractured.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they haven't come out and spoke about.
Speaker 6: It's a bit like the tailor made playing for the
Speaker 6: New South Wales saying that he's missing tackles the game
Speaker 6: against the albums he mystery tackles on the weekend. He
Speaker 6: made sixty three with no misses. So they've got to
Speaker 6: come up with another excuse. He's not in there because
Speaker 6: he made the post. Right, just come out and say
Speaker 6: this is what's happening and then we move move on.
Speaker 6: But if they leave it there and there's gray areas,
Speaker 6: we just dig for the gray area. Don't we to
Speaker 6: look black and white for the fans? Got what are
Speaker 6: you smiling that?
Speaker 8: What are you going to know if you got sacked for.
Speaker 1: Punching his Seriously, Bronco's legend accuses players of lacking spirit.
Speaker 8: This must hurt.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this now, wats out good?
Speaker 1: They are lacking team spirit at the moment. It's hard
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff or anyone outside of the Plane group.
Speaker 8: It's a tough one for Michael McGuire to answer because
Speaker 8: just seeing them against.
Speaker 1: The Dragons, they aren't as competitive as I've seen them.
Speaker 8: They just seem to have lost that competitive edge.
Speaker 1: Now, that's that's a dagg out coming from one of
Speaker 1: the grades, if not V grade Alfi Lana.
Speaker 6: Elf doesn't like confrontation, he doesn't like talking about the club.
Speaker 6: He's made a point because he loves it so much.
Speaker 6: So that's really strong from Alfie and sitting there watching
Speaker 6: them on the weekend, and alf was the one that
Speaker 6: really built their club. So they are disjoined. It doesn't
Speaker 6: look like that they're playing together. They're playing in patches,
Speaker 6: they're all having good moments.
Speaker 5: Break why the play why?
Speaker 6: Well, that's something that you've got to be in the
Speaker 6: four walls and ask them like why aren't they all together?
Speaker 6: Why aren't they as connected and why aren't you know
Speaker 6: they digging in and they got this new coach because
Speaker 6: that's what they're going to do, but they don't seem
Speaker 6: to be doing it. And that's the million. That's what
Speaker 6: the coaching staff and the senior players have to find out.
Speaker 5: Generally, when you're in an organization.
Speaker 7: I like imagine you can't flup winning premierships, and you
Speaker 7: can't flute winning Origin Series or specific Nations championships.
Speaker 4: Like you did with the Kuwis.
Speaker 7: But there's a lot of noise coming out of the
Speaker 7: Broncos at the moment, and there's a lot of un
Speaker 7: rest amongst the playing group. And the only way that
Speaker 7: he's going to fix it is by winning games, because
Speaker 7: otherwise I do think it has got the potential to
Speaker 7: really implode, because you know, watching the Broncos play up
Speaker 7: there in Brazil on Sunday, Gordi, there were stages of
Speaker 7: the game where they genuinely did look quite fatigued, and
Speaker 7: that's been a criticism that has followed Madge plenty of
Speaker 7: places on all for players training hard, you have to,
Speaker 7: you Blake's know, to be at the absolute pinnacle of
Speaker 7: the elite.
Speaker 1: I think more mentally fatigued well, but then physically.
Speaker 4: Okay with each other.
Speaker 1: They can concipe with each other's I not like disagreeing
Speaker 1: or trying to shut it down. They just looked deer
Speaker 1: in the headlights a little, you know, like whenever they
Speaker 1: needed a certain moment or to come up with a
Speaker 1: certain play or more energy or like they just.
Speaker 8: Look stone faced.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't.
Speaker 1: You just saw our Fi and Reno, you know, having
Speaker 1: a laugh about it at all they are And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's on the field. You don't see any that. Like
Speaker 1: you haven't seen him smile barely, you know, like.
Speaker 5: You are allowed to enjoy it.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 5: You have to enjoy the sport. You have to the game.
Speaker 6: You work hard, but you know you've got to really
Speaker 6: enjoy what you do. And all the great size they
Speaker 6: sort of have a smile on the face, like the dog.
Speaker 6: They enjoy working really hard for each other. You watch
Speaker 6: the Raiders really enjoy going to the context Brisbane. It's
Speaker 6: likely to chore for them at the moment. I think
Speaker 6: that they do. It's like there's a price on it.
Speaker 8: You mention the noise hoops, it is the noise all around.
Speaker 1: The players, towards the coach or towards the club.
Speaker 4: I think it's a bit of both.
Speaker 7: I mean, the people, the decision makers up the top
Speaker 7: are ultimately going to be accountable because they're the ones
Speaker 7: who decided to sack Keavy Walters and they brought Madge
Speaker 7: because they thought they needed to steal your edge and
Speaker 7: they need a better discipline around the place. Whether that's
Speaker 7: come to fruitional or not remains to be seen, but
Speaker 7: certainly from all I've heard amongst the players, there are
Speaker 7: rumblings that it isn't an entirely happy camp at the moment,
Speaker 7: are there it's not, But I think given their roster,
Speaker 7: it's a damn good roster. To me, that's a premiership
Speaker 7: winning roster. And I'm surprised. After the way they started
Speaker 7: the season and the way they beat the Bulldogs and
Speaker 7: the way they beat the Roosters, I thought they were
Speaker 7: clear signs they were going to be a top four team.
Speaker 7: Now with the way it's unfolded, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 5: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: The reason or a part of the reason around Kevy
Speaker 1: getting sacked was the club doing a player review.
Speaker 5: That was reverse engineered.
Speaker 6: The club didn't want to make the decision, and the
Speaker 6: players are dirty.
Speaker 3: About that for being blamed that.
Speaker 6: The players, the players that I spoke are dirty that
Speaker 6: they got blamed for it. The club should have come
Speaker 6: out and owned that decision. The club should have come out.
Speaker 6: They shouldn't have put that on the players, explained, and
Speaker 6: I think that's unfair to put that on the players.
Speaker 5: There was no meeting. They weren't sitting around.
Speaker 6: They're not face to face, you know, And that's the
Speaker 6: coach's job, right.
Speaker 5: Do you know Wayne Bennett got asked too?
Speaker 6: The review goes, I do the review here, right, and
Speaker 6: he goes and talks to the players and they have
Speaker 6: a chat and how I fixing, And that's how you
Speaker 6: get the job done. That's what That's what men generally do, right, Winners,
Speaker 6: winners getting groups and.
Speaker 5: They talk about it and losers.
Speaker 6: I don't know what they do, right, but meetings, Yeah,
Speaker 6: well I don't know. I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, and that's and that's probably what didn't have.
Speaker 6: But like I know that that's something that's come out
Speaker 6: that the players didn't want to be taking the brunt off,
Speaker 6: losing their cage, right because up there Wayne Bennett wasn't
Speaker 6: good enough Sea but wasn't good enough, and the players
Speaker 6: sort of kept on getting blamed and they're probably thinking, hey,
Speaker 6: it's not all us here, right, And then now they
Speaker 6: got blamed for this coach and no one can hate Kevin.
Speaker 6: And then now Madge, the poor bugger, he's walked in
Speaker 6: to a ship fight, really and he's pushing it.
Speaker 4: Up looked all right round one, but it has very cleck.
Speaker 6: It's a trial, yeah, and then how good are the
Speaker 6: ruses gone? And then the ruses within five weeks or
Speaker 6: whatever turned it around all right.
Speaker 1: Caylen Ponger was front and center at Moraine's training today,
Speaker 1: taking questions on the nights and whether he's a chance
Speaker 1: of defecting to the kiwis.
Speaker 7: It's pretty down the dumpster and fancy how good have
Speaker 7: then comoders?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been tough. It's been tough at Clubland. You know,
Speaker 5: we're working hard there.
Speaker 6: When I come into his camps, it's a different feel
Speaker 6: and hopefully they can take some things back to the Clubland.
Speaker 3: Basically one thing up.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of talk about you wanting to
Speaker 2: play for the museum and maybe asking if you could.
Speaker 5: What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 4: I can tell you that I'm not thinking about that
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 7: I can tell you that I'm I'm looking forward to
Speaker 7: this week being in the Morones camp, you know, an
Speaker 7: exciting week and my my energy is here.
Speaker 1: They came upon the're refusing to rule out the switch
Speaker 1: to New Zealand and you know, right, so he's focused
Speaker 1: on the Maroons this week, so he should journalist.
Speaker 8: And so he should be but he still didn't.
Speaker 5: He didn't deny it, did it?
Speaker 2: Because the door has been opened for him now to
Speaker 2: play for the key. He's off the back of A. J.
Speaker 2: Brimson been allowed a couple of weeks ago to switch
Speaker 2: from Australia to England because I let him do it.
Speaker 3: I let him do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, under the rules he can play for the Kiwis
Speaker 2: now he has because so this has all changed now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because what happened was a couple of The big reason
Speaker 2: he wasn't allowed to switch was because he played in
Speaker 2: that World Nines a couple of years ago, right, so
Speaker 2: did AJ Brimson AJ Brimson's eligibility. He fronted the panel
Speaker 2: and put a submission to the panel, and the panel
Speaker 2: rule that the World Nines doesn't count because at that
Speaker 2: time it was supposed to be a circuit and a big,
Speaker 2: a bigger sort of competition.
Speaker 6: But it makes more sense why he pulled out at
Speaker 6: the end of last year.
Speaker 2: So now if he wants to, he can play for
Speaker 2: the Kiwis based on what's happened with A. J.
Speaker 3: Brimson.
Speaker 7: I'd forgotten about that that's right. That was highly controversial.
Speaker 7: Out he wasn't injured because of he said he wanted
Speaker 7: to put Newcastle's premiership aspirations ahead of playing for Australia,
Speaker 7: which at the moment you'd have to say and no
Speaker 7: where fast.
Speaker 4: So it hasn't quite worked out.
Speaker 8: You never know. That's not happening.
Speaker 1: Is it the Kiwi's or is it the All Blacks?
Speaker 2: Well, in terms of what the Knights would be more
Speaker 2: fearful obviously, Well, that don't mind.
Speaker 3: If he plays for the Kiwis. He can represent the Keywis.
Speaker 8: Up in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: The rugby union. Yeah, well that's what they do.
Speaker 5: I don't have the money rugby union. They lost nineteen
Speaker 5: million dollars.
Speaker 8: Money's healing round.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, Well when Brad Daorne went there, you go
Speaker 6: there for less. Okay, right, that's not.
Speaker 8: That's all.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, okay, he said the Wallase they've got to
Speaker 6: play overs. But when you play for the All Blacks
Speaker 6: it's the Jersey Man. So he's not going to go
Speaker 6: there on more money than what he's he's.
Speaker 3: The highest paid player in the NRL.
Speaker 6: You'd have to go play in Japan or go play
Speaker 6: in Europe and go play, but they want you in
Speaker 6: their system.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what do we think? Is he going to
Speaker 1: go to rugby Union's he going to play for the Kiwis?
Speaker 1: Is he going to play for Australia?
Speaker 8: What do we think?
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to play for Australia. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll play for Australia. The door is opened.
Speaker 2: But he did you play Keywis?
Speaker 3: Well, he has to give up playing for Queensland and
Speaker 3: he loves playing for Queensland. So whether or not he will.
Speaker 2: Give up that, because that's all happen, he won't be
Speaker 2: able to play for Queensland, right, So you know at
Speaker 2: the end of this Origin series, if he brains it,
Speaker 2: if he wins it, who knows. You know, it's hard
Speaker 2: to get into the head of kleem Ponger. But he
Speaker 2: loves playing for Queensland and if you had a choice
Speaker 2: at the international level, I'd rather play for the Kiwis
Speaker 2: than the Kangaroos.
Speaker 8: All right, Jenna is your key player matchup?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 8: Thanks to Ossie Broadband. Who is it? This weekend?
Speaker 7: I'm on the Sunday game between the Warriors and the Raiders,
Speaker 7: both flowing up the top of the table and it's
Speaker 7: the half back Sluke Metcalf. What a breakout season he
Speaker 7: has had as a playmaker. Up against the experienced Jamal Foxx.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Battle of the number ones for mine is Iyongie up
Speaker 2: against Tom Travoievitch Tommy obviously off the back of not
Speaker 2: playing Origin, not being picked for Origin, his fitness and
Speaker 2: he's young. He's gone really well for the paramatta els.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you Mit, outstanding tonight you too. Hoops great as always.
Speaker 1: This Sunday at nine point thirty pm the f one
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