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Speaker 1: That twenty thirteen GF you guys play against the Roosters

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Speaker 1: the best sides on paper in hindsight of all time.

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Speaker 1: Like Sunny but Williams, James Maloney, Mitchell Pierce, two of

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Speaker 1: us are check is he on the wing there? Roger's

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Speaker 1: first year Minchella and he was fullback? Like is that

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Speaker 1: How much belief did you guys have going into that

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Speaker 2: Well, we had a whole lot of belief because the

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Speaker 2: boys had been there and done it just so recently

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Speaker 2: as well. So they won eight, they won eleven. They

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Speaker 2: had a bit of a down year because that was

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Speaker 2: the first year Dead's left twelve. Yeah, but those boys

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Speaker 2: were used to playing final So it was a number

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Speaker 2: of players feel this, I reckon when you get to

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Speaker 2: a big moment like that and being young, like I

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Speaker 2: just assumed we're always going to be there because that's

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Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, Rousters were the better team.

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Speaker 2: I felt like we had championship DNA in our team,

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Speaker 2: which was you know, probably try to even that out

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and like Maddie said, we were eight

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Speaker 2: and eight going into halftime and a couple of things

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Speaker 2: didn't go our way and they and they got us,

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Speaker 2: but we were very confident. We lost to him five

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Speaker 2: You played him five times, We played him in the trials,

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Speaker 2: We played him two times throughout the year, we played

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Speaker 2: in the Grand Final and we lost every time. But

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Speaker 2: I reckon by a combined margin of about twenty points

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Speaker 2: like they got us. I think maybe the Grand Final

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Speaker 2: was the biggest score. Yeah wow, And that would ended

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Speaker 2: So we had really good contests against them. So we're

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Speaker 2: confident going in there. And then just because I'm looking

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Speaker 2: around and playing with guys like Glenn, especially in the

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Speaker 2: church on the leven. Yeah, yeah, Tucky.

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Speaker 1: Because chairs won the Clive Churchill in the losing side

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Speaker 1: that year he did. Yeah, yeah, I did remember those

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Speaker 1: big backlass yeah on chairs and say as much as

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Speaker 3: It's historically being noted the fact that there was a

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Speaker 3: split in the club chairs and they were off with him.

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Speaker 3: Everything was that was that difficulty in the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look that I've always said this. I think

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Speaker 2: personally as well. We were celebrating after his three hundredth

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Speaker 2: That was a good time. He's really just just like

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Speaker 2: his footy. He took took me a while to warm

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Speaker 2: to him as well. Dai dai. Yeah. Yeah, and because

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Speaker 2: they were like the senior playing group were I don't know,

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Speaker 2: up and there were circumstances that you know, played played

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Speaker 2: He struggled. He struggled a bit during that period and

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Speaker 3: Times and it had for you to remain in Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, there was because I got along really

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Speaker 1: How hard was it for Chess's best mates, who are

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Speaker 2: To be clear, to be clear with it all, like

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Speaker 3: And I'm not digging for anything escape I'm just purely

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Speaker 3: if there's any sort of tension or drama, a lot

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Speaker 2: It must have been some No, this is why it

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. It just shows it. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I imagine the week before would have been

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Speaker 2: Yep, like potentially just going out there to silence a

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: He's how I said, maybe we should have addressed it,

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Speaker 2: He's well and truly done that, and he's learned from

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Speaker 2: he's learned from that from that moment, and he's come

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Speaker 2: in himself that he does. Like, yeah, he cares about

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Speaker 1: Well you just said before about like that real old

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're fantastic and and you probably understand from your

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Speaker 3: I would Andrew Joey Joey used to do it what

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Speaker 2: But he's just like moving around in any because Glenn

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Speaker 1: Worst feeling on it, Like just even to even to

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Speaker 1: Like I've heard stories of the boys. It's not even

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Speaker 2: Degree, Like you know, there's there's pros and cons to

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Speaker 2: it as well. Like earn your stripes before you say

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, I was, what do you reckon of this?

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Speaker 2: You know, he's only that'll work? Can you tell Snake

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Speaker 2: at that or or this is this is why I

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Speaker 3: But that's that's how things work. There's pockets, combinations, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's just been diagnosed with cancer. As Malcolm, really Malcolm

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Speaker 3: like anywhere everyone has got basically the same rights, chiefs

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Speaker 3: up and do it now. When he left, another coaches

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Speaker 3: come in, those younger players go yeah, I got an

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Speaker 3: there are no mind games, and that just formed a family,

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Speaker 3: there are so many meetings and video sessions that regardless

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Speaker 3: if it's a business or professional sport, you've still got

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Speaker 3: to love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You don't win to comp just purely on discipline. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Before we move off your football,

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Speaker 1: can you please tell my favorite story you've ever told me?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell the Richie Fayoso story where the morgue.

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Speaker 2: Oh the morgue? Yeah yeah, I like it already. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm forgetting his name. So yeah, they they just I

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Speaker 1: But I reckon it's five years I still read tell it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Mattie, you've been over the Super League, you

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Speaker 2: and there was one more. I think Graveyanni potentially guy

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Speaker 2: them the Mongrels. That was their nickname, right, and that

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Speaker 2: and everyone's the music's blair and everyone's having a good

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Speaker 2: so you haven't heard. He hasn't heard any of this.

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Speaker 2: So he comes back in the team's got to spray.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's sitting around all quiet and then when when Richie

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Speaker 2: Someone hit the music now? And then apparently I think

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Speaker 2: Madison is his name, gets up. He goes, that's the

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Speaker 2: fucking problem with this club. You fucking munkle start spraying

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Speaker 2: him again, But like, Fuss has missed your initial bit

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Speaker 2: where he's sprayed him. So it's one of the great stories.

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Speaker 2: Richie probably tells it a whole heap better, but he

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Speaker 2: That click thing? You know that someone hit the music

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Speaker 2: and then everyone so like there's people laughing and then

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that is so he's got a.

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Speaker 2: Really good Melbourne story as well. Have you heard that one?

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Speaker 1: Is that the belly ach one Bally?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Frank Benissi was spraying him, but he's got

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Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, I'll try, Yeah, I remember someone really

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Speaker 2: It was do you know what the short version is? Frank?

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Speaker 2: They weren't supposed to drink. Frank was spraying him in

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Speaker 2: so he thought he'd answer back like kit the music

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Speaker 1: Down, and then he, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was

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Speaker 1: and you bloody idiots, you shouldn't be going out and

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Speaker 1: drinking when you like. And then he got it and

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Speaker 1: And then apparently it was just like dead air Bell

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Speaker 2: Up and said, that's right. We called him a name.

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Speaker 2: He's like, but it wasn't alluding to a couple of

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Speaker 2: you idiots. Whatever he goes, you call an idiot trying

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Speaker 4: A couple of confidence schooners retirement tough at first, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was, it was okay for me, mate, I was

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Speaker 2: Love my time overseas spending. I played two years for

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Speaker 3: Quickly on that was living and perpgnon love.

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Speaker 2: It, loved it. Yeah, it took a while, Like we

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Speaker 2: This was an all star team. Gifty Glenn Stewart was

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Speaker 2: apparently Mitchie Pierce just spent some time over there. He

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Speaker 2: Like there's an example the use they used the sixteen year,

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Speaker 2: and if you know, none of that she shit happens

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Speaker 3: How did how did the French react? When you're walking

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Speaker 3: They must have been going, who the fuck? What is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the big behemoth he was, and he'd really blown

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Speaker 2: which is can a beach, no shirt on and just

434
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes have a beer in his hand.

435
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: All those poor wheels they would have been hanging on

436
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: for dear life.

437
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, big big koalie. Yeah, it was the black.

438
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 3: I remember once shaking his hand and his hand was

439
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 3: like felt like about six inches thick.

440
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we used to have pints over there, everyone

441
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 2: drinks points. No one drinks schooners, and then they do

442
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: have schooners and middies if you want to drink them,

443
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: but you know, everyone has a point and the yeah,

444
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 2: the pint would look like a schooner or a midty

445
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 2: in his hand when he drank it, like looked like

446
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: he was completely covering all the rest of us, you know,

447
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 2: as you know I remember.

448
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: So after then, so I I want to play with

449
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: the Sunny Coast Falcons as Melbourne's feeder club in twenty

450
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: eighteen and I was eighteen years old. We had a

451
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: good young side. Harry Grant was in it, Jeromes Hughes

452
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 1: was in it, Paps was in it. And we come

453
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: up against the Capras rock Hampton. So after then Dave

454
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: Taylor came back and started playing for the rock Hampton

455
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 1: for the c Q Capras. So we come up against him.

456
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: And at this plaint, if you thought he blew out

457
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: in Purpagnon, let me tell you something, he must have

458
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: swallowed himself again over there, because when he was playing

459
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: for rock Hampton he would have been one hundred and fifty.

460
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't even recognize him and he was the back

461
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: roller opposite me.

462
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: And it must have been terrifying, you must I.

463
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Was shooting myself. The only thing I had on him

464
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: was because at that stage he must have backed himself

465
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a half bat, so he

466
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't really run at you. He'd like get it and

467
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: then try to chip and chase some shit over you.

468
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: But he didn't have the speed like he once had,

469
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: so we're just bouncing like peraps would pick it up.

470
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Is the second most just purely talented player ever played with,

471
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: behind Hainsey, who could just do crazy staff but skill

472
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: level chip and chases like he was doing that in

473
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: the Super League for a period of that year. Quick

474
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: off the mark strong as an ox just ticked all

475
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: the boxes. Just the conditioning and keeping the weight off

476
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: was his biggest drama.

477
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: Hardest thing. Wow, So like coming back, what's the first

478
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 3: job in the meet? Was that your goal?

479
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: No, not at all. No. I got pretty lucky with it.

480
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: So talking about normally before him, James Cigar and Isaac

481
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: John had a clothing brand called y ktr YEP. It

482
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: done really well for maybe the two or three years

483
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: that I was overseas, but we were we become really

484
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 2: close to my last year at Many just single boys,

485
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: end of the season, footy trips, BALI, all that sort

486
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: of stuff. So during that period I was away, I

487
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: sort of just come back and started flying with those boys.

488
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: Once I got back, did some stuff with them. Didn't

489
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: anticipate it was Isaac was the one who was pretty

490
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: much running everything. And he goes, mate, like, I'm you

491
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: got this thing going on. I don't know what it is.

492
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: We're going to do some sports stuff, but at the

493
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's all about the merch people.

494
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: Remember this, Like one point, it's huge. It was huge,

495
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: like around them everywhere.

496
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

497
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, Isaac said, just come and give the

498
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: podcast stuff a go. But like a point of difference

499
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: was because I was a mad US sports fan. I

500
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: would just only interview players, nothing about footy, very little

501
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: about footy, and all about you know, who their favorite

502
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: NBA team is, English Premier League if need be, Like

503
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: I could go there because I just loved all sports.

504
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 2: Then it slowly just organically grew got bigger and bigger,

505
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: and then you know, the platform become bigger. I ended

506
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: up making a shift about three years ago. I was

507
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: just doing a potty with Mace because because me and

508
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: Mace went back to the Catalan and manly days. We

509
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 2: started doing show together sort of float into levels and

510
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: then it's it's weird, like there's no like real moment

511
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: where I was like, oh, this is what I'm going

512
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: to do now and I'm going to lock in and

513
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: doing it. But just over time started getting the reps.

514
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: Scope taking that step. Because one of the most difficult

515
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: things when you retire is when you play within a

516
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: system of play or a team. Everyone has code words,

517
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: you know, am B, defender and get to this, and

518
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: one of the I think sometimes the mistake or the

519
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: most difficult thing when you're retire is going away and

520
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: finding a vocabulary that allows you to explain but not

521
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: using the terms that you're used to. Is actually going

522
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: away and fighting your vocabulary. You're very good at that,

523
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: is it had something you had to work on.

524
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've got better over the years. But yeah,

525
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: because and even sort of going back to the stuff

526
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: about the video early on, like I've always been very observant.

527
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: I've always been a punter and like as the boys know,

528
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: I love a punt, a bit of a gamble. I

529
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: used to play heaps of cards, so I was really

530
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: big on mannerisms. But then because one of the best

531
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: traits I've got from that is I just love soaking

532
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: stuff in, like watching people. So I watched heaps of

533
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: content and then started to realize the space was going

534
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: where it was and then sort of just try to

535
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: pivot and try to find my own way in. But

536
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: even with the sen stuff now, which is asolutely love

537
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: you get to work with, you know, every now and

538
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: again we chat with you, Maddie, but sugar is completely

539
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: different to obviously Bear's head when I have to fill

540
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: in on the run home, and then I've got Jimmy

541
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: Smith on Sundays. So I've just been trying to take

542
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: little pieces from all of them as much as I

543
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: can and try to learn, because you know, when you

544
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to be around guys with heaps of experience.

545
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: The last couple of years, I've been chalk and cheese.

546
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: If you listen to some of my potties early on,

547
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: and you know, I really struggled as to be expected,

548
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've got a lot better.

549
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Than you ever go back and listen to some of

550
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: the earlier just to sit you're sitting in the car

551
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and go wonder how I sounded back then.

552
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: I did a couple of years ago. I sort of

553
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm more confident in myself now where I

554
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: don't really have to go back and listen to them.

555
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: There are still, you know, like lessons that you can

556
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: get from that store of stuff, but now it's more

557
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm sort of learning enough other people because I

558
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: think I've got past the point where I feel comfortable

559
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: enough in myself and my own skin because I had

560
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: mad imposter syndrome doing it to begin with, Like when

561
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I started the potty and youve got to remember, this

562
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: is like twenty nineteen eighteen. Sorry, end of twenty nineteen,

563
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: no one was doing any of this stuff in our

564
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: area as strong as it is now. Now it's really competitive,

565
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: but I was like, no one wants to listen to me,

566
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, played like a journeyman rugby league player.

567
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: So then once I got confident in that stage and

568
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: then started to get more opportunities, and I started to

569
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: really just embrace it and sort of know where my

570
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: role was and what I do well, and yeah, just

571
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: loving it now, like you're doing a little bit of everything,

572
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: and the level stuff works really well with Mace again,

573
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: another personality to work with. And then at the end

574
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: of the week, I do sen So yeah, I really

575
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: enjoying it.

576
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: What Willie Mason I wanted because I want to not

577
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: ask out the great need attain one of the greats.

578
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: It's someone that doesn't strike me as being a lot

579
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: of help with preparing for a rundown. Would that be

580
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: fair to say, would you be doing a lot of

581
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting?

582
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair.

583
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: I do.

584
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: I do a fair bit of the I guess I

585
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: was saying to Jack before. There's almost like a little

586
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: bit of producing going into it. I come up with

587
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the plans. I make sure I watch everything. I watch

588
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: every game, I watch every important show, all the best analysts,

589
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: and you try to get as many of the views

590
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: as I can before to formulate a show. And then

591
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Mace can just take that wherever he wants.

592
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't.

593
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: He honestly just says. And he and even though like

594
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how much he watches every weekend and

595
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: he probably doesn't watch any more of the shows, but

596
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: he watches. He watches more footy than probably people give

597
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: him credit for him. But he can come in after

598
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: I've seen seven different views, and I feel like I've

599
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: formulated exactly where I wanted to go on a Monday morning.

600
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: And then he just says something and it takes its

601
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: own different, different turn and it goes viral and people

602
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: love it.

603
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's a perfect combination. You're hearing for him. He's gay.

604
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, sliding doors moment, mate, it's a full circle come

605
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: back around.

606
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: I wanted to.

607
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: Sliding doors circle, mate, two completely different things. One is

608
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: an oblong, the other one is circle.

609
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: We're bringing it back to the sliding doors. Another sliding

610
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: doors moment's just come to my head. Willie Mason. He

611
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: went after a certain Newcastle player one time by the

612
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: name of Tyson gamble Jack. Were you at the club

613
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: at the.

614
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: State some of my final days at the club?

615
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

616
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you want to know?

617
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to get Scot's perspective first,

618
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: because when you're doing a podcast, you've got a lot

619
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: of good relationships with players. And then Mace comes out

620
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: calling the night, calling the Knight's spine the worst in

621
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: the comp outside of klem Ponger, and that Tyson Gambill

622
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: was a reserve grade, to which he bit straight back

623
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: and come back at yous. How do you sit in

624
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: that space because you like to have a healthy relationship

625
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: with a lot of the boys, right.

626
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Look, I understand that's what makes us unique compared to

627
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: anyone else. So look, even though I disagree with the

628
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: take and I said it, I said it to him.

629
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: I was like, mate, come on, Like we started talking

630
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: about the spines and I was trying to, you know,

631
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: think about it, but it was so it was out

632
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: of nowhere, so like I can't sit there and plan

633
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: and then start trying to backtrack and try to find

634
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: worse spines in the competition. Anyway, and then and then

635
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Tyson come back and it was so funny, and you know,

636
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, awesome, right here we go. We've got

637
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of something here that we can use

638
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: for for the next episode. And then he went row.

639
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: So people don't realize, like it wasn't the the podcast stuff.

640
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: He started tweeting tweeting Tyson, so you remember he said

641
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: what he said on the potty and then Tyson, I

642
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: believe what I was told. Tyson said it tongue in

643
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: cheek to a journal, but it's just on the fine print.

644
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: So of course, like he was just going, yeah, Mace

645
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: can fuck yeah, he can fuck off or whatever like that.

646
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: But it was apparently just you know, very casual or

647
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. It was exclamation say anyway, So

648
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: that's what make Seeson ego read there. The next week,

649
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: they're playing the Warriors over there, Tyson has a rough

650
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: game and May starts tweeting he's the worst fucking six

651
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: more time or whatever it was. So it wasn't actually

652
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: the podcast stuff. So and then all the backlash come

653
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: off the back of it. We had people like because

654
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I control the socials for us, me and Luky do

655
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: we can see we get all the d ms and

656
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: that they come back from it. And there was so

657
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: much coming back during that period, and then it got

658
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, all right, now

659
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: we need it, Like this was gonna be fun this week.

660
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: But because of that tweet and because he's gone at

661
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: him and just completely hammered him, I was like, all right,

662
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: we've got to pull back. And then we lucky, you know,

663
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: we're not live with the podcast like you got some

664
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: but because there were some times where he just went on,

665
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: you could see him he's just like ready to talk

666
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: about the Knights, and then we talked about the Knights

667
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: and he'd just hammer him for a two or three minutes.

668
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: We'd have to take it out, like I haven't told

669
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: him a couple of times, so mate, we can't. That's

670
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: that's that hard. Yeah. I remember.

671
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: I remember SKA bike because I was sort of understood

672
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: this space not always tip blokes up with little things

673
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: like around, you know, those sorts of headlines and how

674
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 5: it is perceived on text versus someone actually saying it.

675
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 5: I remember saying to a few of the boys, you

676
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 5: because remember, blokes were sharing it. I remember because there

677
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: was a few headlines on whatever platforms and blokes were

678
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: re sharing it saying like, you know, bullshit and whatever

679
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: on their social media, Like I'm sure you guys got

680
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: like would have seen a spike numbers, yeah, and social

681
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: media through that period. It was a bit like a

682
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: Tyson's a champion fella. Now he cops a lot of

683
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 5: you know, for the way he plays. When he came

684
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: down for Brisbane. Honestly, I didn't even think he had

685
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: a bad bone in his body until he played around

686
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: to like art when the ball went up to David

687
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: Nofluma and I'd heard words and I heard hadn't heard

688
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: in the football team for years, but honestly, is that

689
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: good a fella. But the thing was it was a

690
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: bit of a you could tell after a period that

691
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 5: Willy was playing the game.

692
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: This is where I disagree and a lot of things

693
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: you're saying there. Jack Kyler messaged me by the way

694
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: he messaged me and goes, mate, Tyson's a legend, like

695
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, sort of not not levels me directly because

696
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: we've done a few things together. And I was like, yeah,

697
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: it's just sort of saying to Mace, I said, to

698
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: mace's getting a bit carried away. I think the thing

699
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: that sort of got Mace more frustrated is because of

700
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: the backlash off the back of it, because he was

701
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: getting hambled like a lot of Newie fans and he

702
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: loves Newcastle. Mace loves Newcastle. So it divided a bit

703
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: of a fan base as well because a lot of

704
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: people sort of stuck up for Tyson. A lot of

705
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: people were probably saying, you know, Tyson's a a good

706
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: like a solid fire ay, but he's not the best.

707
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: So all the back and forth, I think that's where

708
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: Mace sort of got caught up in a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

709
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: and it dragged on a little bit longer than it

710
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: had to. But he's he's complimentary now every now and again,

711
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: Like it took a while to get past it, but yeah, like.

712
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: I understand, will he taste things to the the MTh

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: he takes things to the extreme. But you know, he

714
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: has played proustraight, He's played the State of Origin, he's

715
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: one Grand Finals, he's won of a Clove Churchill Medal.

716
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: Now I look at Willie and you think, oh jeez,

717
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: that's it's quite harsh. But I see what's far worse.

718
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: People who first come into the media, whether it be

719
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: their own podcasts or websites, and absolutely hammer players purely

720
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: to try to get clicks, to try to get going.

721
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Like there used to be a time when you actually

722
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: had to do your dues and go away to actually

723
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: form o pinion land to these days people start, we'll

724
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: just walk into the media and they're made us operandi

725
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: to actually becoming someone in the media. It's just hammer

726
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: as many players as they can and one of them

727
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: will stick. Yeah, one will get traction.

728
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: As you know, Mady like and being with mainstream media

729
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: at times over the years, like that's sort of how

730
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: that's what separated us in podcasts when I first started

731
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: from mainstream media, it was more about good, feel good

732
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: stories and educating people and telling a different side of

733
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: story that probably the mainstream wouldn't have shown back in

734
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: the day. And you used to be you know, some

735
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: of the clickbait stuff. And then it's sort of like

736
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: felt like, you know, there are people where it's gone

737
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: full circle, it's gone back. In order to make yourself

738
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: known in a podcast, you know this space, then you

739
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: then you go hard and try to look for that.

740
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I reckon it was more just with Mace,

741
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily about continuing continuing it with Tyson, felt like

742
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: he was going back and forth a little bit with

743
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: the fan bases.

744
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah he was angry. Yeah, well I don't like like

745
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: you do it quite well, Matthew. Where you've got to

746
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: show where you sometimes have to be critical of players,

747
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: sometimes have to be critical of players. You might know

748
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: teammates of Jack and I, and you do it very

749
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: well where you tell your honest opinion, but you don't

750
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: need to. There's a lot of people on TV coverage

751
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: who will sometimes just strip a player down on the

752
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: back of on the back of articles and things or

753
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: lack of form, but without providing a solution, you do

754
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: it quite well.

755
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: Where you go.

756
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: This player isn't playing well. I think he needs to

757
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: get back to this to get back to the level

758
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: we know we can play out. And I think there's

759
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: what players I know that what the current players don't

760
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: like is they don't like like people just sort of

761
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: hitting them straight between the eyes with no with no

762
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: idea of how they could get better.

763
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

764
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: I think we all know as players. I mean I

765
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: could speak personally got Hammard quite a bit when I

766
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: was playing, and you know, we all know what it's

767
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: like when a journal would spray on TV and at

768
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: the time you're going this journey.

769
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: As well, like constructive criticism, Yeah, you take that. I

770
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: I used to love that from coaches. Yep, so you

771
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: know how to learn, you know what to work on.

772
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: So coaches just drop me and don't say anything and

773
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: brush you are, like, what are you going to learn

774
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: from that?

775
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: Well, I've had I've written articles sometimes and had angry

776
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: calls from coaches, and I say to them straight up,

777
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: I said, look, at the end of the day, I said,

778
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: go back and read it. You've read it. You've read

779
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: parts of it and taken offense. I've just written six

780
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: hundred words of great advice for you.

781
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go and read it.

782
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: Like people will get there and they're so sensitive because

783
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: you say, look, he's not playing well. You know this

784
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: side are struggling in this area. If they get back

785
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: to that, and they'd take offense, and you go, if

786
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: you're going to take offense of that, if you are

787
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 3: so thin skinned you're taking offense of that, I'm sorry,

788
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: you're in the wrong game.

789
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say there actually are a few assistant

790
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: coaches out there who listen to some of your some

791
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: of the podcasts to get like information.

792
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: For sure, there would yeah.

793
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: Throwing off now I'm throwing throw off.

794
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, word, take some stuff off you.

795
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, like it's it's so easy to

796
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 3: just come out and say, oh, that's players ship.

797
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. People say, let's just we're not having and we're

798
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: not having to go Macy.

799
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: By the way, but Mace will come out and his

800
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: initial he'll do an initial hit. But then he'll say

801
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: why he believes that it's so easy if someone just

802
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: got ah, mate, he can't play stuff like that. Well,

803
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: if you if that's as big a critique as you

804
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: can give someone. Well you got an IQ problem.

805
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: Well that's a beauty with Mays too, right, Like, even

806
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: though I'm super planned with what you know, how I

807
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: think it's going to go and making sure we've got

808
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 2: a show that could last a certain amount of time,

809
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: he is watching all the games, so like, even though

810
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: he might not be his planned or know where it's going,

811
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: he's got an opinion on everything. He coaches and it's

812
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: a strong opinion. Yeah, And he coaches younger and mentors

813
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: younger kids, and and he's been in He's got a

814
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: wealth of knowledge. Like he talks a lot about He's

815
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: got really good relationships with Wayne and Gus over the years.

816
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: Gus is a a bit of a mental for him.

817
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: So when you're constantly around those guys, Yeah, some of

818
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: the stuff he might say might blow people away, but

819
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: it's not like it's like I said, even though it's

820
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: he's not planning the show, there is thought process behind

821
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: everything what he says.

822
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, what's his mum? Is his mum going okay.

823
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah I believe so. She had a bit of a

824
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: scare about a year ago now, But yes, he goes

825
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: up and I think his brother's living up up the

826
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Central coast.

827
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: And les Now the younger brother was good football with

828
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: the younger fellow.

829
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Coming through the Knights, was he So Mace's got I

830
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: should probably know this a bit a bit better. But

831
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: he's got about eight brothers and sisters maybe yeah, yeah,

832
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: something like that.

833
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: But he had a younger brother coming through it the

834
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: Knights in the under twenties. It was good. It was

835
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: good football, really really good.

836
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Heath Mathan's noted to Mike tythan shit, I don't know.

837
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I got my tongue and stuck between my teeth your

838
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: tongue final, you know what? Before we get the loan

839
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: story of the last little Mace thing, I remember the

840
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: first time I ever knew what like, you know, the

841
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: boys in the off season, they'll get an airbnb together

842
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: and they'll lock in for a few days and I'll

843
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: go down to the beach and have a drink. The

844
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: first time I ever sort of was shown. That was

845
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: actually Willie Mason and a few of his ex teammates.

846
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: They rented a joint just around the corner from us here. Texted,

847
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: remember that, texted Dad, say mate, come over, bring the boys.

848
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: We got in there. Let me tell you something. They

849
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: were well hydrated. It was quite it was it was

850
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: about mid morning and questions one word for it. Yeah, yeah,

851
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: a few electro lights and yeah, I remember just going

852
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: and going. Just why did you bring us to their day?

853
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: I didn't realize till I actually walked in and realized

854
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: I'd walk you into a mad Monday.

855
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, yeah, it was a loose crew.

856
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: So loans explain what it is. I'm not good to explain.

857
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: This is the last thing we usually do. You're ready

858
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: for this. So you listened to the party before.

859
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a clips guy. I listened to all the clips.

860
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: So okay, yes, so that doesn't come it doesn't come

861
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: down as a number. That's fine. It doesn't come out

862
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: as a down for two seconds? Yes, sweet, perfect. So

863
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: this segment, Loan Survivor, He's going to give you a

864
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: category and then go It's like, would you rather give

865
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you two players or two something? And you pick and

866
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Speaker 1: you continue to go until there's one left to King

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Speaker 1: of the Hill and they're the winner of that category. Matthew,

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Speaker 1: what is the category?

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Speaker 3: Greatest teammatee Oh, okay, okay, first to flet MATEO Chris in.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's yeah, that's tough. Chrissy spent longer time with

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00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Christy and we went to school together.

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Speaker 3: Okay, christ and he knew the Wolfman, David Williams. Chrissy, Okay, Chrissy.

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Speaker 3: George to fuer.

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Speaker 1: Oh picking favorites.

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Speaker 2: I live with Georgie, Georgie.

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Speaker 3: You know Georgie. Once we had a person associated with

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Speaker 3: their show, like a producer of sorts, who did a

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Speaker 3: bit of a skid on Georgie. Given the Georgie anyway,

879
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Speaker 3: Georgie sent a message through to the producer. Our producer

880
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Speaker 3: honestly was in the fetal position for three years.

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Speaker 1: That would be scary. I remember first time I ever

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Speaker 1: met him. I was down at Lockey Croker's birthday in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen and Georgie was there blind and

884
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Speaker 1: he mustn't have realized my last name was John's. And

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Speaker 1: he kept calling me Jonesy. He kept going Cooper Jones,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Jones, and the Brad Parker was going Georgie. He's

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Speaker 1: named fucking John's.

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Speaker 2: I think you knew, Yeah, that seems like something Georgie

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Speaker 2: would do.

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Speaker 3: Cooper John.

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Speaker 2: We used to live around the corner together. We're just

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Speaker 2: not too far away from that was the house that

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Speaker 2: I lived in with Georgie for a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh really ye ken Jam Remember we nearly sent

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Speaker 1: munster to the purgatory.

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Speaker 3: Mate purgatory. Yeah okay, uh, Eric Growth Junior, George to Phil, Georgie,

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Speaker 3: Georgie luke Bert, Georgie, Georgie, Tim Manor, Georgie, Georgie, Maddie Ballen, Georgie,

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Speaker 3: Georgie chock what mar Georgie, oh Mane, he's on a roll. Georgie,

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Speaker 3: Nathan Kalis, Georgie, Georgie Phoebe phooey oh foy was cooled.

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Speaker 3: But Georgie, Yeah, okay, Georgie, Glenn Stewart, Georgie, Georgie Tamara

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Speaker 3: Tahou Georgie, Georgie d C E D Okay, we've taken

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Speaker 3: the left turn d c E. Brett Stewart uh d

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Speaker 3: C d c E. Jared Haynes, Oh, who are Glenn

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Speaker 3: McGrath d C d C. He's the last one, the

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Speaker 3: biggie Nathan high.

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Speaker 2: USh, that's easy. Scope.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming. I really appreciate congratulations on your work, mate,

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Speaker 3: Good on you, bro, Thank you mate,