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Speaker 1: as I told you, when it comes to my discussion
Speaker 1: about what we leave the show with, sometimes it will
Speaker 1: be and more often it will be the things that
Speaker 1: happen here, sometimes obviously the stuff that happens overseas. And yes,
Speaker 1: let's begin with a very consequential day in the Trump
Speaker 1: Harris fight. But it is not just because of the
Speaker 1: event that took place today when he was speaking to
Speaker 1: the Association of African American Journalists. Now, Trump of course
Speaker 1: was delayed thirty five minutes. Apparently. He says it was
Speaker 1: because of technical difficulties. Those that were confirmed by the
Speaker 1: lady on the far right of the screen, Harris Faulkner,
Speaker 1: who works for Fox News, also saying there was technical issues.
Speaker 1: They say, no, it's because there was live fact checking.
Speaker 1: But as you know, and we've got to go through
Speaker 1: this in some detail because I want you to hear
Speaker 1: everything in its proper context. It was a rather combative performance.
Speaker 1: Now we all know that after about a three weeks
Speaker 1: ago the assassination attempt, the suggestion was that a new
Speaker 1: Trump was coming, the new concealed literary Trump. Well, the
Speaker 1: reality is that the Trump who actually surged to his
Speaker 1: highest point in the polls was the one who said fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what he did today.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been
Speaker 2: asked a question so in such a horrible manner.
Speaker 1: A first question.
Speaker 2: You don't even say, hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: Are you with ABC?
Speaker 2: Because I think they're a fake news.
Speaker 1: Network, a terrible bad work.
Speaker 2: And I think it's disgraceful that I came here in
Speaker 2: good spirit. I think it's a very rude introduction. I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly why you would do something like that.
Speaker 1: And let me go a step further.
Speaker 2: I was in and I was told my opponent, whether
Speaker 2: it was Biden or Kamala, I was told my opponent
Speaker 2: was going to be here. It turned out my opponent
Speaker 2: isn't here. You invited me under false pretense.
Speaker 1: Now, all of that is the traditional battle that people
Speaker 1: have expected to see Trump when it comes to all
Speaker 1: forms of the media important tonight that when he says
Speaker 1: ABC News fake news network, they're the ones who are
Speaker 1: planning to have the next presidential debate. Obviously he's beginning
Speaker 1: to lay the groundwork for not turning up at that event.
Speaker 1: Potentially somewhere else in counterprogramming, we'll all find out together.
Speaker 1: And then, yes, this moment which has set many a
Speaker 1: hair on fire.
Speaker 3: So do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is
Speaker 3: only on the ticket because she is a black woman?
Speaker 1: Well, I can say no.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 4: So I've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly
Speaker 4: very much, and she was always of Indian heritage, and
Speaker 4: she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she
Speaker 4: was black back until a number of years ago when
Speaker 4: she happened to turn black. And now she wants to
Speaker 4: be known as black. So I don't know is she
Speaker 4: Indian or is she black?
Speaker 1: She has always black college I.
Speaker 2: Respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she was
Speaker 2: Indian all the way, and then all of a sudden she.
Speaker 4: Made a turn and she went she became a black.
Speaker 1: Pers Now, like many of the moments along the way
Speaker 1: with Trump, there is something for everyone inside what you
Speaker 1: just saw. You can focus exclusively on the part where
Speaker 1: he says, look either way, I respect both of them.
Speaker 1: Therefore no problem, continue past, go collect two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: There are the others who say the mere suggestion of
Speaker 1: questioning somebody's ethnicity is a birtherrism and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. Now, I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 1: try to pretend that that wasn't at the very least
Speaker 1: an awkward moment and in artful moment, or at times
Speaker 1: just an uncomfortable one. It's a sign of Trump going
Speaker 1: back to what has worked for him in the past
Speaker 1: worked against him as well. But it is fascinating to
Speaker 1: see what some of the reaction. Who's speed. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: going to show you reaction from the cable news networks
Speaker 1: in the United States, so I could show you much
Speaker 1: more versions of the outrage and much more versions of
Speaker 1: the defense. But generally speaking, this seemed to be the
Speaker 1: attitude in response to what we all saw the former
Speaker 1: president's side.
Speaker 2: The fact that you have someone who is a former
Speaker 2: president's running for president again that is making a mockery
Speaker 2: of the heritage of anybody.
Speaker 5: I agree with you. It is ridiculous we're talking about
Speaker 5: it and not talking about Kamala Harris's.
Speaker 4: Record, but the question the vice president's ethnicity.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even say what I really want
Speaker 2: to say about this, but I just think this was
Speaker 2: a calculating mistake, and I would.
Speaker 3: My reaction is that it was a complete, absolute dumpster
Speaker 3: fire for the former president.
Speaker 1: He did crap the bed today.
Speaker 6: The only question is whether he's going to roll around
Speaker 6: in it or get up and change the sheets.
Speaker 7: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: What do you think my advice would be, get up,
Speaker 1: change the sheets. That's of course some people that you're
Speaker 1: hearing from the left, right and apparently Center on Fox,
Speaker 1: on Sea and all the rest of it. Now, again,
Speaker 1: something that always does my heading in moments like this
Speaker 1: is that unless you are the loudest person condemning, then
Speaker 1: somehow you are completely okay with the worst possible things
Speaker 1: that are being placed onto comments like this. But again,
Speaker 1: we're not in Trump's head. We can't pretend what he
Speaker 1: was really trying to say. The best that I could
Speaker 1: try to work it out was, obviously he's speaking to
Speaker 1: a group of black journalists. Now, of course, For some
Speaker 1: in the United States, that means African American. For others,
Speaker 1: it's literally a reference to your skin color. Again, the
Speaker 1: raw shacked test of Donald Trump is there for all
Speaker 1: to see, and somehow if you don't condemn it as
Speaker 1: loudly as somebody on MSNBC, then somehow you are pro
Speaker 1: whatever they imagine the dog whistle to be. But there
Speaker 1: is one little thing I wanted to mention here, and
Speaker 1: again it's not the way that Trump should have said.
Speaker 1: It's not really a thing Trump should have ever got into.
Speaker 1: And I'll show you something in a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: time that actually shows why today was an important day
Speaker 1: in the race, not just because of this event, which
Speaker 1: much of the meeting will say is sort of his
Speaker 1: debate moment. Now it's not his debate moment, it's not
Speaker 1: his access Hollywood moment. But still it was absolutely a
Speaker 1: sign that we are going back to form here, which
Speaker 1: means everyone's back into their normal corners. The very few
Speaker 1: people who are left undecided or the independence will we
Speaker 1: all see how they go in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But I mentioned before that one of the people who
Speaker 1: was interviewing the president was Harris Faulkner. She's one of
Speaker 1: the great people at Fox News Now. She's somebody who
Speaker 1: can be tough but fair. She does long interviews where
Speaker 1: she goes straight after the issues. I think that she's
Speaker 1: a pretty straight shooter. Now. She of course confirmed what
Speaker 1: the President said about some of the technical issues that
Speaker 1: in part were why he said there was difficulties on
Speaker 1: the stage, but also about why there was a lateness
Speaker 1: in the whole thing starting, but something that we all
Speaker 1: noticed together. And I feel like there's kind of going
Speaker 1: to be this public conversation where you must only have
Speaker 1: one opinion about what happened, and then there's the private
Speaker 1: conversations that will no doubt be happening across the United
Speaker 1: States about what did he really mean? And do we
Speaker 1: agree with what he really meant? But the other factor
Speaker 1: here is the reaction in the room. And one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I didn't just play the little bit
Speaker 1: for you, but I played the bit that had the
Speaker 1: crowd reaction in it. Is that was the crowd booing,
Speaker 1: was it hissing, was it peede off? Was parts of
Speaker 1: it loving the sort of Trump randomizer act? Well, again,
Speaker 1: Harris Faulkner, one of the people on the stage was
Speaker 1: able to see what the crowd was doing, and this
Speaker 1: is what she said about the crowd reaction to what
Speaker 1: was being said.
Speaker 3: So what I loved about what you couldn't see today
Speaker 3: was how much of that audience was enjoying the moment
Speaker 3: of hearing from a candidate that they might not always
Speaker 3: agree with it. For all of that pushback, young journalists
Speaker 3: that I'm talking to after the event are saying, well,
Speaker 3: we're glad he's here.
Speaker 1: But here is why today was a significant day in
Speaker 1: the race, perhaps the most significant day since they changed
Speaker 1: from Biden to Harris. We are now starting to see
Speaker 1: the data about what is either the tippy top of
Speaker 1: the surge, the tippy top of the sugar hit, or
Speaker 1: the crossover point. I've shown you the betting markets for
Speaker 1: multiple days as an indication of who is leading the race.
Speaker 1: I should say leading the race, not winning the race,
Speaker 1: because obviously the win only comes in the first Tuesday
Speaker 1: in November, and we'll be in the United States for
Speaker 1: many shows and will have plenty to say between now
Speaker 1: and men. But you can see the betting markets are
Speaker 1: now starting to pull back. Trumps still in front, ever
Speaker 1: so slightly, but he lost four points in a day,
Speaker 1: another couple of bad days, he goes south, and then
Speaker 1: obviously things start moving back in Kamala Harris's way. But
Speaker 1: as always I like to show you data because while
Speaker 1: I did mention that yesterday there was a lot of
Speaker 1: headlines saying that there was a whole collection of poles
Speaker 1: that had changed the race, there were also a whole
Speaker 1: collection of poles that still showed that there was a
Speaker 1: significant strength with Trump. Now, one of the main sets
Speaker 1: of data that I'm going to try to focus on
Speaker 1: between now and the election so you have the same
Speaker 1: set all the way through is the information that the
Speaker 1: statistician Nate Silver has put together. He's on substack under
Speaker 1: the title of the Silver bulletin. Well, have a look
Speaker 1: at this, as I wanted to show you some of
Speaker 1: the changes since the change in candidate. Right now, national polls,
Speaker 1: remember national polls are irrelevant because it's all about swing states.
Speaker 1: But still Trump was leading, Harris is now leading ever
Speaker 1: so slightly. Yes, statistical tie, all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: To give you an idea that generally speaking, the Democrats
Speaker 1: should be at least two points above the Republican or
Speaker 1: they are going to be in trouble in some of
Speaker 1: the swing states, but that has been the change since
Speaker 1: the change to Kamala Harris. The latest five polls that
Speaker 1: I can show you that came in literally in the
Speaker 1: past twenty four to forty eight hours. They show Harris
Speaker 1: up by two, Trump up by four. They show Harris
Speaker 1: up by one, Harris up by one, and Trump up
Speaker 1: by two. So again we do not have an overall picture,
Speaker 1: but obviously this thing is way closer than it was
Speaker 1: when Biden was the candidate. So let's get to the
Speaker 1: swing states, because we are now getting swing state polling
Speaker 1: that shows the Harris Trump race, not the Biden Trump race.
Speaker 1: As you can see in all of these states, there
Speaker 1: has been a very significant change. The change has seen
Speaker 1: Trump go down and Harris go up, but he is
Speaker 1: still leading in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, just
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin is where Harris is winning along with Michigan. Now,
Speaker 1: to give you an idea in picture form about where
Speaker 1: we sit at the end of the second full week
Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris being the person not Joe Biden, let's
Speaker 1: have a look. Remember, you need two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: votes in the electoral college, you need to win a
Speaker 1: certain number of states that do swing between left and right,
Speaker 1: red and blue, and Biden versus Trump. The final polls
Speaker 1: there were three hundred and twelve electoral vote it's an
Speaker 1: easy win for the Republicans. Well, based off today's poll.
Speaker 1: If we can show that as well, the Republicans still winning,
Speaker 1: but only by now seventeen votes, that essentially means that
Speaker 1: move one or well two states in different directions. Harris wins,
Speaker 1: not Trump. So right now Trump is still leading. The
Speaker 1: question is have we hit the top of the surge
Speaker 1: for Harris where she's simply not Biden. Is her vote
Speaker 1: coming off Trump or is it coming off Kennedy? Which
Speaker 1: is a lot of what is taking place. So it
Speaker 1: brings us to the third and most important picture. I
Speaker 1: have to show you one state in particular will crown
Speaker 1: the president. Now, if you assume that on the far
Speaker 1: left of screen in Nevada, that all of the data
Speaker 1: which is continually pointing in Trump's way, means Trump wins
Speaker 1: that state. Now it'd be the first time they've wanted
Speaker 1: in decades. But still it all comes down to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: They have nineteen electoral votes. You add nineteen to the
Speaker 1: Democrats two hundred and fifty one, bang to seventy. You
Speaker 1: add nineteen to the Republicans two sixty eight, then obviously
Speaker 1: that is a victory. So it is all now about
Speaker 1: the state of Pennsylvania. Hence why most likely Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: will choose the current governor of Pennsylvania as her running mate.
Speaker 1: But make no mistake, if Pennsylvania moves, it has the
Speaker 1: capacity to crown Harris. If the data falls away in Nevada,
Speaker 1: it'll start to sink Trump. The third thing that was
Speaker 1: the most significant thing that happened today that showed a
Speaker 1: change in the way this is all working. Blind Freddi
Speaker 1: would tend you that it has been difficult for Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to work out exactly how he is going to
Speaker 1: define and then attack Kamala Harris. We will know where
Speaker 1: the media is, and we all know that the media
Speaker 1: is now involved in the coronation. But after the event
Speaker 1: with the journalists that took place today in Chicago, the
Speaker 1: former president flew back to Pennsylvania, the state where the
Speaker 1: assassination attempt had happened a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: that I have mentioned is basically the ultimate place you
Speaker 1: definitely need to win if you are going to become
Speaker 1: the president. And at a rally today we started to
Speaker 1: see what I think is the effective way to take
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris. He's the first thing that he said.
Speaker 8: But as we're fighting to bring back the American dream
Speaker 8: for you and your family, the radical left Democrat party
Speaker 8: bosses have installed a puppet candidate to fight only for themselves.
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris got zero votes. She's totally scripted, owned and
Speaker 8: controlled by the donors and the power brokers who created
Speaker 8: her campaign and who rip off our government and make
Speaker 8: billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Remember all of this matters because are the poles just
Speaker 1: going to tell us? Are the polse is going to
Speaker 1: catch up with where the public sentiment's been over the
Speaker 1: past few days. Were currently at about fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: in line ball. There might be some more to grow.
Speaker 1: So if we have tapped out at the top of
Speaker 1: where Harris is before, of course she starts seriously campaigning
Speaker 1: or god forbid, actually answering a single question. Remember, not
Speaker 1: one question has been asked of her since the elevation,
Speaker 1: nothing about why did you lie about the state of
Speaker 1: the president, what did you really say, behind the scenes
Speaker 1: all of that. But of course none of that will
Speaker 1: be done in anywhere but friendly media, most likely probably
Speaker 1: on some sort of a podcast or radio show. Remember,
Speaker 1: of course, the form of the same people that are
Speaker 1: running this campaign was to hand the questions to the interviewers. That,
Speaker 1: of course was admitted by the Biden now Harris campaign. Second,
Speaker 1: this is another way that Trump, if he can maintain
Speaker 1: a lead, would be able to do so. Now he
Speaker 1: can move the words around, move the emphasis around. But
Speaker 1: this is how he could take on Harris Well.
Speaker 8: After lying to the country for years about Joe Biden's
Speaker 8: mental and physical condition, Kamala is now being given a
Speaker 8: personality makeover. Don't forget four weeks ago she was considered
Speaker 8: the worst, not smart, terrible, the worst vice president in history.
Speaker 1: He's the worst president.
Speaker 2: We've ever had.
Speaker 8: But they were considered terrible, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: she's the new Margaret Thatcher that happened.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm showing you all of this because probably the only
Speaker 1: thing you've seen is of course, that moment about skin
Speaker 1: color and race. But if you're actually paying attention to
Speaker 1: all of the other things, this is the sort of
Speaker 1: stuff that will turn up in the ads now, even
Speaker 1: though Donald Trunk can't be told what to say, Clearly,
Speaker 1: whatever research they have behind the scenes is starting to
Speaker 1: turn up in these messages that she's a fake, that
Speaker 1: clearly she is part of every problem which forced people
Speaker 1: to think that they didn't want to vote Democrat at
Speaker 1: this upcoming election. Remember, they are defending a record Trump
Speaker 1: is attacking. Trump lost, of course when he was defending
Speaker 1: his record, and it was the Democrats who were attacking.
Speaker 1: Third and final sign of where Trump might go in
Speaker 1: the next couple of days.
Speaker 8: Because everything about Kamala Harris roll out, it's phony and
Speaker 8: it's fake. Did you see when President Obama and Michelle called?
Speaker 1: Did you see Hello? Hello? Yes? Yes, who is this?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: This is Michelle and Barack.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 8: Oh, so surprised to hear they got four cameras in front. Oh,
Speaker 8: I'm so surprised.
Speaker 1: It's unspeaker for listen.
Speaker 8: We just want to congratulate.
Speaker 1: You on destroying Joe Biden.
Speaker 8: I'm in on the winning the Hey is Joe Biden
Speaker 8: going to? Was that the phoniest phone call you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: There's a word that many people in politics talk about
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and sometimes you might see it in
Speaker 1: some of the media coverage. It's called authenticity. If he's
Speaker 1: able to effectively make her out to be fake or
Speaker 1: being presented as somebody who she really is not, well,
Speaker 1: then he's going to start to win on that front.
Speaker 1: Authenticity with Trump mainz. Sometimes if you are somebody who
Speaker 1: would like to be in the next president, there were
Speaker 1: awkward days are days and moments and comments that are
Speaker 1: at times even straight out indefensible. But if you're somebody
Speaker 1: who knows that Kamala Harris is not presenting herself as
Speaker 1: the person she has been for the years as the
Speaker 1: vice president who clearly was involved in the decisions which
Speaker 1: annoyed the American people so much so that even in
Speaker 1: these polls, something like sixty percent of people in that
Speaker 1: country say they're headed in the wrong direction. And in
Speaker 1: many ways, much of her presentation, regardless of what office
Speaker 1: she's been run from, has been some sort of fake
Speaker 1: and a phony. Well that seems to get the message
Speaker 1: out of a place where the days become difficult, or
Speaker 1: as the bloke said, you need to change the sheets.
Speaker 1: Back home. Here in Australia, let's talk about our old
Speaker 1: mat albow, greatest prime Minister of all time, of course,
Speaker 1: the man who will win the next five hundred federal elections.
Speaker 1: Just ask him, just ask the people around him. Well,
Speaker 1: one thing again that many of the people who are
Speaker 1: paid to talk about politics on all the different parts
Speaker 1: of the media, they don't want to talk about, which
Speaker 1: is that the Prime minist is underwater in terms of
Speaker 1: approval of versus disapproval. More people disapprove and the News
Speaker 1: pole of the Essential poll and the Resolve poll to
Speaker 1: the point of seven percent in the News Pole three
Speaker 1: percent the Essential. But what about in the Resolve poll,
Speaker 1: that one that turns up in the city morning here
Speaker 1: on the Age and the Brisbane Times, he's minus twenty
Speaker 1: two right now. Now, of course we know why, and
Speaker 1: it's because what was promised has not been delivered and
Speaker 1: you can't b sua out of things like a labor
Speaker 1: government will lower the cost of everything, or telling people
Speaker 1: that no matter how many times you've lied, your word
Speaker 1: is your bond, my word is my bond, that you're
Speaker 1: going to cut their power bills.
Speaker 2: Deducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 6: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 6: a year.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventy five dollars a year will.
Speaker 6: Get power prices down by two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 6: dollars a year.
Speaker 1: But on your watch, the majority of Australians believe that
Speaker 1: their policies when it comes to pushing too many renewables
Speaker 1: too fast, is shoving up power prices that have gone
Speaker 1: up by such a margin that most people will not
Speaker 1: even notice the seventy five dollars every three months that
Speaker 1: will be taken off the bills. But of course it's
Speaker 1: all eaten up by ever increasing costs on your power
Speaker 1: bills because of, in part, the move of a trillion
Speaker 1: dollars worth of a brand new energy system. And then
Speaker 1: of course there's the endless defense of the indefensible. And
Speaker 1: even when you have to move ministers who have done
Speaker 1: a shocking job in terms of protecting the country, well
Speaker 1: you don't admit that you did it because they did
Speaker 1: a bad job.
Speaker 9: Why did you because there's a reshuffle.
Speaker 1: But right now at the top of the list is
Speaker 1: nervousness about where people live. There is serious concern around
Speaker 1: the country about how much it costs to rent a home,
Speaker 1: about how few homes there are available for rent. But
Speaker 1: front and center, the single biggest concern between now and
Speaker 1: next week is are they going to put up interest rates? Now?
Speaker 1: Most again betting people would suggest it's probably not going
Speaker 1: to happen tomorrow, but it's not going to happen for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. And remember, and Anthony Abernezi,
Speaker 1: there had been not one, not two, not three, not four,
Speaker 1: not five, not six, not seven, not eight, not nine,
Speaker 1: not ten, not eleven, but twelve interest rate rises the
Speaker 1: elbow doesn't thirteen in all since the very first one
Speaker 1: that happened during the election campaign back in twenty twenty two. Now,
Speaker 1: remember when this was the reaction of the Labor Party
Speaker 1: when interest rates went up once.
Speaker 6: This is a full blown cost of living crisis on
Speaker 6: Scott Morrison's watch. When things are going well in the economy,
Speaker 6: he takes all of the credit, and when times are
Speaker 6: tough in the economy, he takes none of the responsibility.
Speaker 1: So where's the responsibility been When it's happened twelve times
Speaker 1: more literally, twelve times worse than the situation that they
Speaker 1: tried to make the most out of and were politically
Speaker 1: rewarded in May of twenty twenty two, they can no
Speaker 1: longer run and pretended somebody else's economy. It is their
Speaker 1: economy and it has been for a long time. Again,
Speaker 1: plenty will give the benefit of the doubt, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do it because we all saw what
Speaker 1: was happening, what was coming. We were ridiculed for talking
Speaker 1: about it. But guess what turned out to be true.
Speaker 1: The people who promised everything delivered nothing. In fact, they
Speaker 1: made things worse. The people who said it was time
Speaker 1: to change the government because there was one interest rate
Speaker 1: rise now say reelectus, despite the fact there have been twelve.
Speaker 1: A thirteenth may will be on the way next week.
Speaker 1: But again, my sense of these things, in relation to
Speaker 1: the inflation numbers, which again are now starting to go
Speaker 1: back up, well is that most likely they'll take a
Speaker 1: punt of another weight. But if prices continue to remain
Speaker 1: way closer to four percent inflation than two percent inflation,
Speaker 1: which is what the Preserve Bank wants, they're going to
Speaker 1: raise interest rates again. And even people who couldn't stand
Speaker 1: anything that I ever have to say, who think I'm
Speaker 1: wrong on every particular issue, and of course by their
Speaker 1: own admission as a self admitted liar, like nasty, Nikki Sava. Well,
Speaker 1: she's now identified that there is a serious political consequence
Speaker 1: exactly what we're talking about for months. In fact, the
Speaker 1: headline on her thing today in the nine newspapers is
Speaker 1: whatever's achievements the Prime Minister? Another rate rise were just
Speaker 1: about Bury Albanesi. Another rate rise would gravely damage the government.
Speaker 1: It would almost certainly tip the economy into recession, making
Speaker 1: political recovery in time for the next election extremely difficult.
Speaker 1: Welcome to reality, Nicki. But of course she likes to
Speaker 1: say that everything is the Peter Dutton problem, and even
Speaker 1: when she's pointing out the obvious concerns that are there
Speaker 1: inside the Labour Party, she still had a wack at
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton. But interestingly, it's been noted by a couple
Speaker 1: of people in the media that there may well be
Speaker 1: a new line of attack from the opposition that could work,
Speaker 1: that could get them closer than they currently are to
Speaker 1: government but yet a minority position, or even just a
Speaker 1: healthier version of the opposition that currently exists. This is
Speaker 1: the new line of attack from Peter Dutton. Expect this
Speaker 1: to be said many times between now and the election.
Speaker 1: It's obvious to all Australians. Now, the Prime Minister may
Speaker 1: not be a bad person, but he's a shocking prime
Speaker 1: minister and he can't make decisions that ultimately are in
Speaker 1: the best interest of our country. Watch this space plenty
Speaker 1: more action Again. My sense, my sizeable gut, is that
Speaker 1: they're not going to raise them in the next month.
Speaker 1: But will they raise them again before the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Plenty of economists say yes, and perhaps more
Speaker 1: than once. If it would virtually wipe out a prime minister,
Speaker 1: we just one imagine what two or three could possibly
Speaker 1: end up doing. That is some predictions from some economists. Now,
Speaker 1: I love clubs. I love clubs because it was the
Speaker 1: way that when I was growing up, you knew that
Speaker 1: this was the local place to go. I wasn't really
Speaker 1: brought up by a family that went to the pub
Speaker 1: that often, but certainly whenever we had significant events, we
Speaker 1: would go to the local club. That's where you'd celebrate
Speaker 1: the birthdays and the significant events, the schnitzels and all
Speaker 1: the rest of it. So I love clubs. I love
Speaker 1: what they do and what they do for the community.
Speaker 1: But also what I particularly love about clubs and bowling
Speaker 1: clubs is that they are a connection to the greatest generation,
Speaker 1: the people who went and fought for the country principally
Speaker 1: in and around World War Two, and these were the
Speaker 1: places that they hung out in the years to follow.
Speaker 1: It's where we, as their grandkids or you potentially as
Speaker 1: their children, were able to go and again celebrate major events.
Speaker 1: And I would hate to see these things slowly disappear.
Speaker 1: But there is a reality that there are many clubs
Speaker 1: which are only barely staying alive in regional Australia. I
Speaker 1: know the particular importance of a thing like a club,
Speaker 1: and while I understand and Mate was telling me today
Speaker 1: that there's actually a significant number of people who are
Speaker 1: going to the club more than they used to because
Speaker 1: maybe the money they would have spent at a restaurant,
Speaker 1: they can spend well less money for the same type
Speaker 1: of food and offering at their local club or bowling club.
Speaker 1: And I would hate to see these things disappear again.
Speaker 1: I think they are wonderful little reminders of the people
Speaker 1: who made the country what it is, the country that
Speaker 1: we seek to defend, that we seek to debate about
Speaker 1: each and every night. But there are some pretty active
Speaker 1: moves at the moment to find ways to either financially
Speaker 1: cripple these clubs or just outright wipe them off the map. Now,
Speaker 1: whether the assumption is that that's because these are the
Speaker 1: places that may well still have a picture of Her
Speaker 1: Majesty when Elizabeth still hanging on their walls, because that
Speaker 1: was what was there decades earlier, but of course it's not.
Speaker 1: These places are places that have got a wonderful connection
Speaker 1: between in my case, grandparents, parents, and an opportunity to
Speaker 1: hang out with the kids. But when I say about
Speaker 1: a war on clubs, it is coming on multiple fronts. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the club that has got something
Speaker 1: like three hundred poker machines, and let's be honest, they
Speaker 1: have not really focused it and around anything to do
Speaker 1: with the return services anymore. They're basically sort of just giants,
Speaker 1: sort of mini casinos that yes, do a lot of
Speaker 1: good as well, but pretty obvious that one of the
Speaker 1: ma main reasons why they're open or four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning is so you can play the pokeys, something
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with. If you have a problem,
Speaker 1: of course you should seek counseling, But if you choose
Speaker 1: to do that with your entertainment good luck to you,
Speaker 1: But this is what's happening, particularly to bowling clubs in
Speaker 1: New South Wales. Now. Bowling clubs, of course, are not
Speaker 1: as big, not as powerful as some of the other
Speaker 1: clubs that are in and around our communities. They often
Speaker 1: exist on crown land and they are given ninety nine
Speaker 1: year leases, mostly by the state government but sometimes by
Speaker 1: local councils. In the case of New South Wales, if
Speaker 1: your bowling club is on land that is owned by
Speaker 1: the Nis and Whales government, they are jacking up the
Speaker 1: rent right through the roof, and to me is no
Speaker 1: other option here than trying to choke these clubs out
Speaker 1: of existence.
Speaker 10: Their rent is skyrocketing from twenty three thousand to ninety
Speaker 10: five thousand dollars over the course of the next two years.
Speaker 10: The same goes at Penrith Bolow up from five thousand
Speaker 10: to sixty five thousand. At Sea Fourth twenty five and
Speaker 10: a half thousand will rise to sixty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 10: Even taking into accounter rebate, their rent is still doubling
Speaker 10: all up at sites across the state at extra six
Speaker 10: million dollars will be netted for government coffers.
Speaker 1: Now what they plan to do with the land, whether
Speaker 1: you try to sell it, often it into housing, or
Speaker 1: as many other communities have done, find a new reason
Speaker 1: for that space to be repurposed. But still this is
Speaker 1: a really important part of our culture that I certainly
Speaker 1: hope that we don't lose. Another version of it is
Speaker 1: happening with Local Council now again local council owns some
Speaker 1: land and much of that land can be loaned out
Speaker 1: ninety nine year leases and the rest for things like
Speaker 1: local sporting or local bowling clubs. There's a place in
Speaker 1: Sydney called lane Cove. It's at the lower North Shore
Speaker 1: end of things and traditionally will end up sending Conservative
Speaker 1: members to the state or to the Federal Parliament. But
Speaker 1: as the telification of things, or in the case of
Speaker 1: lane Cove Council, the greenification of things, will guess what
Speaker 1: types of things they are starting to move against the
Speaker 1: symbol of the communities that represented the greatest generation. Because
Speaker 1: of course everything in the past was terrible. Everything must
Speaker 1: be flushed down the toot and everything else must be renamed.
Speaker 1: Lankov Council decided to vote that you are not allowed
Speaker 1: to have poker machines on land. That is owned by
Speaker 1: the council. The person who made the suggestion is unsurprisingly
Speaker 1: a Greens counselor, and amazingly, seven of the nine people
Speaker 1: on the council voted in favor of this move, knowing
Speaker 1: that it will have a serious financial effect on a
Speaker 1: couple of clubs in the area. The Green's Council, it's
Speaker 1: old the ABC. Unsurprisingly the council shouldn't be in the
Speaker 1: business of supporting gambling or supporting poker machines in any way.
Speaker 1: The response from the clubs that are affected here from
Speaker 1: our point of view as a small club, the impact
Speaker 1: is huge. Every dollar is huge for us. We are
Speaker 1: very community based. It would affect quite numerous community groups
Speaker 1: with the club. We have kick for kids, karate, we
Speaker 1: also have elderly yoga. If you're serious about reducing gambling,
Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't be the first point of interest, correct.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. In New South Wali, as there
Speaker 1: are about to be local government elections, question everyone who
Speaker 1: is running for counsel firstly what's their position on Australia
Speaker 1: Day and secondly what's their position when it comes to
Speaker 1: the local sporting clubs. But most importantly can you do
Speaker 1: me a favor this weekend. Go to your local bowlow
Speaker 1: if you're able to have a role, do so. If
Speaker 1: you're only able to pop in just for some fish
Speaker 1: and chips, or maybe even just a couple of schooners
Speaker 1: on the way home, please do so. These clubs need it.
Speaker 1: Our friends of course at the balgowla bowling club, literally
Speaker 1: have a go fundme page up right now. We went
Speaker 1: and saw them when we were doing ourtown a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 1: Don't just love your local club and be annoyed if
Speaker 1: it ever disappears. Go to your local club, go to
Speaker 1: your local bowlo support them with the thing that they
Speaker 1: need most, your time, your money, because it's a way
Speaker 1: of keeping alive things that our parents or grandparents held
Speaker 1: dear a place to have a community worth fighting for
Speaker 1: overseas or hear each and every day crazy stuff in
Speaker 1: Victoria today, as the CFM and U allegations first aired
Speaker 1: by your Channel nine a couple of weeks ago, still
Speaker 1: continue to reverberate now. The Victorian Planning Minister, of course,
Speaker 1: is one of those people inside the Victorian government who
Speaker 1: apparently had some knowledge about the stuff that all of
Speaker 1: us learnt together via the sixty Minutes program. You may
Speaker 1: remember her appalling performance at a press conference.
Speaker 7: I had been made aware as a local member of
Speaker 7: Parliament of one allegation, and that matter has been referred
Speaker 7: to Fair Work Commission and is being dealt with their appropriately.
Speaker 1: Well, an opportunity to try to find out who knew
Speaker 1: what and when in some sort of a scenario where
Speaker 1: somebody would actually have to swear to tell the truth
Speaker 1: and there'd be some sort of punishment if they did,
Speaker 1: would be something like an Upper House inquiry. Now, as
Speaker 1: I've told you before, the only way the Labor Party
Speaker 1: can pass anything at the moment through the Victorian Parliament
Speaker 1: is with the support of the Greens plus some of
Speaker 1: either Animal Justice or the legalized cannabis people. Well, guess
Speaker 1: what happened today. The Greens decided to vote with the
Speaker 1: government to stop an inquiry in the Upper House into
Speaker 1: who knew what and when about the CFMEU. There was
Speaker 1: also plenty of drama in question time as an opposition
Speaker 1: that we often correctly bag as not having any backbone
Speaker 1: actually showed they've got something in their spine somewhere.
Speaker 5: Over the last ten years. How many times was the
Speaker 5: Premier warned about the cfmus thuggery, corruption and criminal behavior
Speaker 5: on taxpayer funded major projects.
Speaker 1: Good, no wiggle room, right, but of course this is
Speaker 1: the Labor Party in Victoria. There's nothing but wiggle room.
Speaker 5: You, speaker. As I have said on a number of
Speaker 5: occasions where allegations will raise.
Speaker 1: With me and good on them, they weren't going to
Speaker 1: play the pantomime anymore. So when eventually the questions were
Speaker 1: not going to be asked, when the procedures and the
Speaker 1: government was using its numbers to essentially fight against some
Speaker 1: sort of transparency, there went. You know what, We're not
Speaker 1: playing anymore.
Speaker 5: We have now asked a total of twenty four questions, very.
Speaker 1: Simple order type questions. What is your point of order?
Speaker 9: Speaker?
Speaker 5: We will not stand with respect, We understand your role.
Speaker 5: This is not directed at the chair, but we will
Speaker 5: not accept a government that is covering up up.
Speaker 1: A government that question.
Speaker 5: We have asked twenty four simple questions and not.
Speaker 1: Got one answer. We will not stand for it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask colleagues, let's let's show that this questions.
Speaker 1: No good. You can't do that stunt every single day,
Speaker 1: But if it's a way of proving the point that
Speaker 1: the entire system is against you because of the nature
Speaker 1: of the numbers inside the Parliament and every now and
Speaker 1: then when they're going to play their games and something
Speaker 1: is as serious as what's been a legend and around
Speaker 1: the cfmau yep make the point why because it'll turn
Speaker 1: up on the six pm news. Sure, twenty eight minutes
Speaker 1: in after all of the Olympic stuff. But still someone somewhere.
Speaker 1: So whoever made the decision today for the Victorian Liberal
Speaker 1: Party to stand up and walk out, well done. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about it with Michael Crogan in a moment here
Speaker 1: on Poor Murray Live. Tell me who do you think
Speaker 1: is the winner and loser of the week? Jump onto
Speaker 1: the socials? No, it looks no left is what a
Speaker 1: way to hang out this Thursday night. And other than
Speaker 1: Kristin Abrams of course, who joins us now? Of course,
Speaker 1: so you freedom fighter, A lovely lady who joints. Look
Speaker 1: at you all dressed up looking amazing. They're in lovely Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Of course, the wonderful Michael Krogan who always looks great
Speaker 1: as well. See see how it's done? All right, great man,
Speaker 1: look as I come back.
Speaker 11: So it's too from your holiday.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Loving to be back. I don't miss the
Speaker 1: cough that I got on the holiday. So I'm plays
Speaker 1: that I'm all back and ready and doing what we do.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about what happened at office Works. Now,
Speaker 1: we've all seen the footage. If you haven't, let me
Speaker 1: show you this, right, which is that somebody's trying to
Speaker 1: get laminated a newspaper, right, a newspaper that is available
Speaker 1: in Australia, freely available in Australia. Yet a person behind
Speaker 1: their counter turns around says, no, they're not willing to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened a minute before. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened a minute after, but this is what
Speaker 1: we can all see with our own eyes as a
Speaker 1: rather weird moment.
Speaker 11: What's that I'm pro Palestine?
Speaker 1: That's okay here to do a job of luminating.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we need We have the right to deny jobs.
Speaker 10: Is that an office works position or your personal position?
Speaker 11: It is an officer, so we have the right to
Speaker 11: deny jobs.
Speaker 6: So office works position is that you're pro Palestine.
Speaker 7: You won't take why that's my position?
Speaker 11: But we have the right to deny jobs.
Speaker 1: What's the reason of denaying.
Speaker 11: I'm not comfortably proceeding with it.
Speaker 1: All right, A couple of things here, Michael. I'm interested
Speaker 1: about how the company is going to respond to this,
Speaker 1: because if the company's policy is that an individual member
Speaker 1: of staff can make decisions about whether or not they
Speaker 1: are going to develop your photos or aren't going to
Speaker 1: laminate your jobs, well, that really does change most people's
Speaker 1: expectations about the retail experience. But for obvious reasons. Here
Speaker 1: you've got a scenario where somebody is denying somebody access
Speaker 1: to a business because of the politics of what's happening
Speaker 1: on the other side of the world.
Speaker 9: What do you think, Well, that made me sick today
Speaker 9: when I saw that video. That is that is sickening,
Speaker 9: and shame on that young woman. Just shame on her.
Speaker 9: She's an employee, I presume, not an independent contractor, so
Speaker 9: she has to act in accords with an instruction of
Speaker 9: her employer. I hope that she's been sacked by the
Speaker 9: way for that act. Of course, if the man across
Speaker 9: the counter was gay and she said I'd a't serve
Speaker 9: gay people, would she still be employed? Great point by
Speaker 9: that company. Secondly, of course, if the boot was on
Speaker 9: the other foot and this was a Palestinian who'd been
Speaker 9: treated that way. The Left would have a thousand people
Speaker 9: outside the office works store today, you know, banging doors, chanting,
Speaker 9: carrying on and putting the management under extreme pressure. The
Speaker 9: Jewish community don't do that. Sadly, I wish they had
Speaker 9: one hundred people or a thousand people outside that store tomorrow,
Speaker 9: because this is sickening that this is happening in a
Speaker 9: Jewish part of Melbourne. I had a friend when I
Speaker 9: was in Jerusalem and tel Aviv in January. I was
Speaker 9: talking to a fellow there who I said, helling you
Speaker 9: be in Israel. He said, I'd only just moved there
Speaker 9: to Tel Aviv from Corefield and I said, oh, why
Speaker 9: have you moved from Corfield to Tel Aviv? And he said,
Speaker 9: I feel much safer in tel Aviv.
Speaker 1: Blimey, that's extraordinary. That is extraordinary when looked where the
Speaker 1: iron name's going on, believable all day every day. Sick
Speaker 1: Kristen again again, I am fascinated. I of course I
Speaker 1: agree with how despicable the idea is that the individual
Speaker 1: employee turns around and says, because of my beliefs, we're
Speaker 1: not doing this. We're obviously the standard in Australia is
Speaker 1: that we've got to the point where well, if somebody
Speaker 1: opposes your political opinion, or your sexuality or your race,
Speaker 1: these are all not reasons not to serve. We don't
Speaker 1: live in that sort of thing which gets argued in
Speaker 1: places like the United States where well a baker has
Speaker 1: the right, same says all of that garbage, right, how
Speaker 1: should this company respond to Kristen?
Speaker 11: Look, I think this is a bungle. You talked about
Speaker 11: the policy, so I reckon office works policy is something
Speaker 11: similar to office works has the right to refuse printing
Speaker 11: scanning if the images are offensive or if the documents
Speaker 11: are offensive in nature, probably referring to things like pornography
Speaker 11: correct or a nudity or explicit pictures, and that has
Speaker 11: been misinterpreted, which comes down to training for office works.
Speaker 11: I do you know, I understand what Michael is saying,
Speaker 11: but I don't think they are going to be able
Speaker 11: to terminate because it is a lack of training and
Speaker 11: the lack of understanding of the policy, which obvious makes
Speaker 11: it difficult. But it is sad that our society has
Speaker 11: gotten to this point where somewhere, you know, as trivial
Speaker 11: as office works, where you should be able to kind
Speaker 11: of get your stationary and basic printing here and there,
Speaker 11: all scanning, laminating, whatever it is you are having to
Speaker 11: engage in this political discourse where we should all feel
Speaker 11: safe in society.
Speaker 1: And the thing, Michael, is is that you can have
Speaker 1: literally any view on what is taking place right all
Speaker 1: the way from oh, it's historically this, or it's historically that,
Speaker 1: this is okay, this is not okay, this is the
Speaker 1: right to this, all of it. But what has seeped
Speaker 1: into our culture, right, this is the latest example of it.
Speaker 1: But what has seeped into our culture is this idea
Speaker 1: that the individual's politics is able to be practiced sort
Speaker 1: of face to face. It's something that we have seen
Speaker 1: happen from of recent months, the trashing of officers. We've
Speaker 1: seen it in multiple ways. And what I find amazing
Speaker 1: is that inevitably in the next twenty four hours we're
Speaker 1: going to go back to your interpretation of the conflict.
Speaker 1: Is your interpretation of the video as opposed to saying
Speaker 1: the thing that makes Australia safe for all people of
Speaker 1: all faiths, of all opinions, is that because of your
Speaker 1: opinion bar something that is as Kristen says, obviously about
Speaker 1: pornography or all the really terrible and obvious things, that
Speaker 1: you are free to walk in and out of a
Speaker 1: shop and not be afraid that because you are a
Speaker 1: member of one Nation, or a member of the Greens,
Speaker 1: or somebody who wants to frame the Jewish newspaper or
Speaker 1: somebody who wants to frame the Palestinian newsletter, that you
Speaker 1: will not be refused service. But how have we got here?
Speaker 1: I know that that's sort of a two hour answer
Speaker 1: to a ten second question. But we are at a
Speaker 1: point where if we don't push back on this stuff
Speaker 1: and say no, no, no, no, no, no no no. You can disagree,
Speaker 1: but you can't do this stuff, then we're going to
Speaker 1: become a very different joint. Or maybe we are. He have.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so mate, what has happened in this country since
Speaker 9: October seven is the anti Israel, anti Semitic Jewish hating.
Speaker 1: Hard left.
Speaker 9: Who just hate Jews, who have been joined by some
Speaker 9: more well meaning people who do genuinely support the Palestinian
Speaker 9: cause and particularly dislike Jews. But they've all got meshed
Speaker 9: up together. The extremists on the hard left have pushed
Speaker 9: the boundaries and limits of our democracy. They've pushed free
Speaker 9: speech across the line. They've they've used our freedom to
Speaker 9: demonstrate crossing the line between what is acceptable and what
Speaker 9: is not acceptable, for example, yelling out slogans which involve,
Speaker 9: you know, demands and requirements for the Jewish state to
Speaker 9: be destroyed and Jewish people to be killed. The Left
Speaker 9: have pushed the boundaries deliberately, so because the Left try
Speaker 9: and intimidate the middle class who basically don't pay as
Speaker 9: much tension to these things as everyone else does. And
Speaker 9: so what you've seen is a weak federal government. And
Speaker 9: I'm directly blaming Albanesi. I mean, he has been a hopeless, weak,
Speaker 9: pathetic leader on anti Semitism. The rise in anti Semitism
Speaker 9: in this country is a reflection of the fact that
Speaker 9: the Prime Minister has been hopelessly weak. He's been aided
Speaker 9: and avetted by Penny Wong's appalling behavior, appalling behavior towards Israel,
Speaker 9: and they've created this climate in Australia where there's some
Speaker 9: kind of moral equivalence between the Jewish cause and the
Speaker 9: Palestinian cause. On the one hand, you've got a freedom
Speaker 9: loving liberal democracy in Israel, and on the other hand,
Speaker 9: you've got Palestinian leadership, who execute gays, who murder and
Speaker 9: behead you know, innocent Israelis who don't hold elections, who
Speaker 9: are opposed the democracy, who support terrorism, et cetera, cetera.
Speaker 9: He has successfully he's successfully done this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't agree. Sorry, Kristin, finish up here
Speaker 1: and then we'll go to a break.
Speaker 11: I was just going to say that I think the
Speaker 11: problem is that they're targeting the young as well. And
Speaker 11: it's not like liberal or labor was activating the young people.
Speaker 11: This particular narrative is absolutely targeting them. And what are
Speaker 11: we doing to actually educate them as to what is
Speaker 11: going on? It is Albanesia. I completely agree with Michael,
Speaker 11: but we need to do more to actually educate the
Speaker 11: young people that are engaging in this behavior.
Speaker 1: All right, as I said, you can have any view
Speaker 1: you want, and I'm fine to argue all views, right,
Speaker 1: but when we start to get to this idea about
Speaker 1: your free movement access to things is directly correlated to
Speaker 1: your denial of it is your opinion, then we're into
Speaker 1: a different place. That's what we're debating tonight. But I
Speaker 1: look forward to it being cut up and misinterpreted by
Speaker 1: the Internet, or at least the ABC. Between now and
Speaker 1: when we meet on Sunday, we break back more. Here
Speaker 1: we are in conversation with Michael Kroger and Kristin Abram,
Speaker 1: of course, who is a libertarian com and Tata love
Speaker 1: to see you both. So let's talk about today and
Speaker 1: my theory of the case, Kristen, which is today was
Speaker 1: a very consequential day, and what's happening in the states
Speaker 1: right Firstly, we start to see a leveling up where
Speaker 1: it's basically fifty to fifty right now in the national
Speaker 1: vote and the polls Trump was winning. Trump is leading
Speaker 1: still in all of the swing states, but Kamala is
Speaker 1: starting to pull a couple back, and now it looks
Speaker 1: like a scenario where if everything sort of stays where
Speaker 1: it currently is, it could all come down to one state. Also,
Speaker 1: we saw, yes, the comments with the Blake journalists, but
Speaker 1: also I wanted to take the time to show where
Speaker 1: some of the potential Trump attack lines are going to
Speaker 1: be there about sort of the fake, phony and wrong stuff,
Speaker 1: which I think is going to be a much better message.
Speaker 1: But of course we'll be drowned out by the outrage
Speaker 1: of what happened today. Do you think today was a
Speaker 1: consequential day or this is just one of those days
Speaker 1: where it's consequential for the media because they get to
Speaker 1: go orange man bad.
Speaker 11: It's such a complicated answer, Paul, But you love to
Speaker 11: ask me identity of politics questions, don't you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know you're so into it, Like as a libertarian,
Speaker 1: you just I love it.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 10: I do so.
Speaker 11: In terms of what he said at the Black Journalists
Speaker 11: Press Conference, yeah, reporting me definitely inappropriate. The problem is
Speaker 11: when you turn around and say someone is a diversity
Speaker 11: higher or you're you end up talking about their race
Speaker 11: or whatever. You do disincentivize all the or negate all
Speaker 11: of the accomplishments that they have had. And I have
Speaker 11: a massive problem with that. Every time I get to
Speaker 11: an achievement in my life that I have extremely worked
Speaker 11: extremely hard for, people turn around and go, yep, the
Speaker 11: diversity quota is there. Even if it is a joke,
Speaker 11: it's still said. So I think that is poor form.
Speaker 11: And I think if Trump continues to make these kind
Speaker 11: of comments and word vomit here and there, Kamela May,
Speaker 11: Stephen Brad Brieham, so he just needs to be careful
Speaker 11: on his word vomit, because if she doesn't run a campaign,
Speaker 11: potentially the votes will continue to go on. Who knows
Speaker 11: what happens when she runs a campaign, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look again, you know there's any views,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's the conventions, there's the sentencing, there's that.
Speaker 1: We all know what are the set dates between now
Speaker 1: and then. But the reality is early voting in the machine.
Speaker 1: And again we've seen before literally in the state of Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: there was a Senate fight between a blokeout a stroke
Speaker 1: and a TV doctor, right, and people were pretending they
Speaker 1: were arguing as if they were sort of arguing over
Speaker 1: you know, the most serious things in history. So people
Speaker 1: just get behind their team in the end, Michael, again,
Speaker 1: we've all seen the poles. We've all seen that when
Speaker 1: it was Biden, what the path was going to be.
Speaker 1: We've all seen what's changed. We all see how fake
Speaker 1: some of this can be. So is your sense though,
Speaker 1: that today we saw the potential fight. We saw that
Speaker 1: sort of you know, the rumble and the jungle style
Speaker 1: sort of boxing UFC style. Trump is back and he's
Speaker 1: the guy who wins. What what did you think we
Speaker 1: saw today?
Speaker 9: It wasn't a good day for Trump. Look, this is
Speaker 9: how you got to look at you got You've got
Speaker 9: to look at the American election this way only if
Speaker 9: you I've been watching Fox News in America, Sky News
Speaker 9: in Australia. As we said a few weeks ago, you
Speaker 9: knew three years ago that Joe Biden had early stage
Speaker 9: dementia dementia. If you're watching the other networks in America,
Speaker 9: you only realized three weeks ago when the debate took place,
Speaker 9: that the guy's not the full quid. Fast forward today,
Speaker 9: most people have got no idea about Kamala Harris. They
Speaker 9: got no idea. I don't know anything about her, and
Speaker 9: what they've seen in the last week is she seems
Speaker 9: quite good. Oh, she's bouncy and foxy, and you know,
Speaker 9: you've been a prosecutor and she's a vice president. They
Speaker 9: don't know much about her. So the bottom line is this,
Speaker 9: if Trump allows the election to be about her, she
Speaker 9: loses and her extreme liberal agenda. I couldn't think any
Speaker 9: of anyone less electable than a San Francisco born and
Speaker 9: bred and raised in the San Francisco Barrier if she
Speaker 9: was worked there for twenty years as a San Francisco
Speaker 9: prosecutor from California, Biden's vice president, the most liberal senator
Speaker 9: they've seen in the Senate for half a dozen years,
Speaker 9: versus Donald Trump. That would be an extraordinary thing in
Speaker 9: American politics, because the liberal San Francisco cannot get elected.
Speaker 9: The only way she get elected is if Donald Trump,
Speaker 9: and you've got his number, mate ring him. You're a mate,
Speaker 9: can you tell him? Don't make this election about you, Donald,
Speaker 9: just get up and give you a stump speech about
Speaker 9: her record, the borders, blah blah blah. If he does that,
Speaker 9: he wins. If he allows the election to be about him,
Speaker 9: he possibly loses well also, but.
Speaker 1: Also potentially if he can pull it into authenticity versus
Speaker 1: sort of political fakery. Then again, the kind of people
Speaker 1: who generally roll a rise at political fakery. They start
Speaker 1: to come his way, all right, winners and loses the week. Wonderful, Kristin,
Speaker 1: who is your winner or a loser this week?
Speaker 11: The winner of the week for me would probably be
Speaker 11: Quantas Airline. They're definitely being able to kind of shift
Speaker 11: that market, and the loser, unfortunately, is Rax Airline, which
Speaker 11: Quantus has helped to put them in this position.
Speaker 1: Allegedly. Indeed, Compass and Bonza and many others before all right, yes, Michael.
Speaker 9: Winner of the week is the Israeli government and the
Speaker 9: potential for peace in the Middle East sooner rather than later.
Speaker 9: With the killing of two shocking butchers from hes Blah
Speaker 9: and Hamas, and the news tonight that the Israelis Israelis
Speaker 9: did kill mohammadif the number two man from Hamas bombing
Speaker 9: in Gaza in July. On he leads mister Nails rala As,
Speaker 9: the leader of Hezbla, who's sitting somewhere very quietly in Lebanon,
Speaker 9: and Yea Sinwa, who's in the Gaza strip in a
Speaker 9: tunnel somewhere. They're the only two leaders left. After that,
Speaker 9: the new government can basically say we won and start
Speaker 9: the peace process. The lows of the week is your
Speaker 9: friend Mark Kelly, the Senator from Yeah, he was on
Speaker 9: his Arizona. He was on his way. Shapiro, because you
Speaker 9: are you are correct, Kamala Harris will announce Josh Shapiro,
Speaker 9: the governor of California, a government running mate for exactly
Speaker 9: there is.
Speaker 1: And you said, good stuff, Thank you, guys, have a
Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. Guy Yankee, you see you Sunday