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Speaker 2: This is the Winner Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. Senator for Tima Payman launches another extraordinary attack

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Speaker 3: against Pauline Hansen. I'll unpack that and today's other big

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Speaker 3: headlines with a panel. Another renewable energy project fails despite

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Speaker 3: a massive injection of taxpayer funds. Ian Pimer will join

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Speaker 3: me to discuss that, a major case of buyer's remorse

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Speaker 3: as New Yorker start to feel the pinch under Mayor

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Speaker 3: Zora and Mandani. Josh Hammer will cover that and the

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Speaker 3: latest news out of the US, and there have been

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Speaker 3: plenty of developments with a man formerly known as Prince

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Speaker 3: Andrew will go through it all with Kinsey's Schofield later

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Speaker 3: in the hour, and Left Is Losing It features the

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Speaker 3: delusional fantasies of the reliably deranged Robert de Niro.

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Speaker 4: No, but he won't, he won't leave. Let's not kid ourselves.

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Speaker 4: He will not leave.

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Speaker 5: It's up to us to get rid of him.

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Speaker 3: But first labor turned independent Senator Fatima Payment is making

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Speaker 3: headlines again. You remember her. This is a woman whose

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Speaker 3: family fled Afghanistan a country where women are considered second

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Speaker 3: class citizens, forced to cover up, unable to go to school,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes stone to death for crimes like adultery and blasphemy.

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Speaker 3: You think Fatima Payman would be grateful to call Australia home,

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Speaker 3: but she seems to have little bit disdained for the

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Speaker 3: country beyond its multiculturalism. And Senator Payment, Yes, has made

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Speaker 3: headlines again after these statements about One Nation leader Pauline Hansen.

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Speaker 6: Tell Pauline Hanson that if she doesn't like how things

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Speaker 6: are here in Australia, then she can really pack her

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Speaker 6: bags and go to the US and continue being best

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Speaker 6: buds with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is News Corps senior writer Patrick Carline

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Speaker 3: and Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: I said, you recall Senator Hanson being taken to court

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Speaker 3: suit for saying something similar about Marine Feruki of the Greens.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that was probably the longest court case of all

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Speaker 7: time when fre didn't it, That's what happened very costly. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and I thinkma Senator Payment is trying to make a

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Speaker 7: play on that. Obviously, if you watch some of the

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Speaker 7: Senate sort of hearings and you see Senator Payment talking

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Speaker 7: about Pauline Hansen. She appears to absolutely hate her, like

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Speaker 7: it is visceral, which is.

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Speaker 3: So strange because when you are in Canberra at Parliament House,

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Speaker 3: one of the things you notice is how loved Pauline

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Speaker 3: is colleague by the staff you go to the canteen,

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Speaker 3: but by just everyday people. The reaction she gets is

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Speaker 3: so different to most other politicians. So this visceral hatred

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Speaker 3: that Payment has, it's a little bit unhealthy.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me, well she comes acrosst to me,

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Speaker 1: has been quite unhinged. Look, and this issue of the

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Speaker 1: definition of racism, I mean, there's nothing wrong with questioning

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Speaker 1: our biosecurity measures. That's not racism. The thing with Senator Payment,

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Speaker 1: I always fine, is that all she given where she's

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Speaker 1: come from, which you just sort of cited, what she

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Speaker 1: should be doing is promoting our great country and all

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Speaker 1: she ever seems to do is either complain with grievances

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Speaker 1: or promote this idea of multiculturalism. And I resent and

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Speaker 1: I reject that because we are not a multicultural nation.

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Speaker 3: I don't we have multi for that at anything We're

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Speaker 3: not could be multi. We're multi ethnic, that's fine, but

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Speaker 3: we do have an Australian culture and Australian values and

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Speaker 3: that counts for something. Now you mentioned this hatred. Let's

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Speaker 3: have a look at an example of that. It's not

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Speaker 3: the first time Senator Payment has attacked Pauline Hansen. If

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Speaker 3: that is not racist, what is it?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's not RACI or somebody bring the dictionary, because

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Speaker 8: Senator Hanson does not know the definition of racism.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you would say.

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Speaker 8: Just weeks ago to Senator for rookie piss off back

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Speaker 3: You're not just vindictive, mean nasty.

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Speaker 8: You bring disgrace to the human race, no dignity whatsoever

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Speaker 8: as a senator in this prestigious place where we're supposed

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Speaker 8: to bring a unity, where we're supposed to have that

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Speaker 8: freedom of expression. Yes, but within boundaries and confinements of respect.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so much respect that Colleen, Senator. But bet they're

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Speaker 3: trying to just hold it back. Yes, I mean that

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Speaker 3: either works for that. It's very hard calling. And it

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Speaker 3: went on for several more minutes. I can't play the

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Speaker 3: Why do you think she continually does this, Patrick, because

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Speaker 3: she seems to be a bit of an attention seeker.

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Speaker 3: I remember talking about her when she said we have

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Speaker 7: That was really weird, and it got used by around

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Speaker 7: around State TV. Yes, Propernanda. Of course I should have

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Speaker 7: But if you look at why she left the AOP,

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Speaker 7: it was because they weren't left enough on Palestine. She's

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Speaker 7: are the same. They're not actually trying to build anything,

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Speaker 7: they're actually trying to undercut it.

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Speaker 3: But that's an indictment on the Labor Party calling they

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Speaker 3: be a senator in the Australian Parliament, and it backfired

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Speaker 3: on them. But she's still in the.

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Speaker 1: Parliament and I think she's up for election next time,

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Speaker 1: isn't she. So hopefully we won't see too much.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we will be, but for the time

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Speaker 3: being a well done Labor Party now. Support for One Nation, meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: fresh polling by Roy Morgan putting One Nation at number

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Speaker 3: a half percent, ahead of Labor at twenty five. Look

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Speaker 3: at the big dive there by Labor, even a bigger

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Speaker 3: half of Sankoline, the most left wing state in Australia,

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Speaker 3: has One Nation leading in the polls in the primary vote.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever think you'd see such a thing? Well,

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Speaker 3: I think we just saw.

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Speaker 1: Why. When you see people Senator Payment doing all of that,

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Speaker 1: the average Australian is looking at and going, this is

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Speaker 1: not my country, and that they have seen that over

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Speaker 1: a long sustained period of time One Nation of champion

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Speaker 1: the causes of the average Australian and national pride and

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Speaker 1: national security. So it's not a surprise that they are

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Speaker 1: rising in the polls the way they are. I think

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Speaker 3: And we've seen this trend elsewhere, Patrick, and it's finally here.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it in the US with Trump, UK with

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Speaker 3: reform and Brexit. It's all across South America. You've got

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Speaker 3: people use the term populism in a pejorative way, but

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Speaker 3: that's democracy. Populism is the majority wanting something to happen

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Speaker 3: that's not happening.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think Victoria's different because this government is so

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Speaker 7: bad on so many levels. We saw it last week

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Speaker 7: with the CFMEU stuff. Oh yes, there's fifteen billion dollars missing.

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Speaker 7: Let's not look into that, you know. And look, we

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Speaker 7: are the most left wing state we have been for

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Speaker 7: a long time. And I think there is a pushback

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Speaker 7: against that wokeness and about that ideological sort of viny

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Speaker 7: put over everything. We're sick of it. We are absolutely

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence that the most left

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Speaker 3: But on that fifteen billion dollar CFMU scandal, the tactics

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Speaker 3: and attack the report, to suggest that the report writer

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Speaker 3: has some sort of sinister motivation or is an attention seeker.

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Speaker 3: Nothing about the substance of the report, which is some

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty pages long and very detailed, or

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Speaker 3: just about this is just unsubstantiated scuttle but nothing to

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Speaker 9: I thought.

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Speaker 7: I thought Allen was trying to sort of brazen her

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Speaker 7: public terribly because people want answers. Fifteen billion dollars is

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Speaker 7: a huge amount of money. It's like fifteen new hospitals.

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Speaker 7: It's one hundred and fifty thousan forward rangers. As I

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Speaker 7: two hundred billion dollars in debt because we've been mismanaged.

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Speaker 3: Now let's go to the Prime Minister. He's come under

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Speaker 3: Australian Education Union event saying he likes visiting schools because

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Speaker 3: kids aren't far right. Let's have listen to part of

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Speaker 10: I always love going into public schools as well because

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Speaker 10: for those who with arise in some of the far

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Speaker 10: learning center or into a primary school, kids don't see race, religion, gender,

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Speaker 10: anything else. They just see other kids. You know, Hatred

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Speaker 10: and division is something that's learned. And so public schooling

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Speaker 3: There may Colleen, there you go only in a public school?

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Speaker 3: Are you safe from right wing extremism? Never mind the

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Speaker 3: he says kids don't see race and gender and sexuality.

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Speaker 3: They're taught to see that at school. They are fed

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Speaker 1: And look, I mean, what an insult to people who

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Speaker 1: choose to send their children to non governments. Correct first

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Speaker 1: the national curriculum because it promotes you know, diversity, equity, inclusion,

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Speaker 1: which divides people. It teaches the kids that we're not

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Speaker 1: all one nation. It is in government schools where we

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Speaker 1: will be. It's government schools where we've had children exposed

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Speaker 1: to best reality. It's government schools where teachers were cafirs

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Speaker 1: and the Australian Education Unit that we just saw promoted

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Speaker 1: the voice of huge division of the nation. He really

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Speaker 1: the curriculum that the government is responsible for. He's right

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Speaker 1: that children are not naturally hateful of each other, and

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Speaker 1: they are being taught it, and they're being taught together.

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Speaker 3: Angls themselves correctly, and the hate the world, hate their history.

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Speaker 3: To have this just endless black arm band view of

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Speaker 3: the of the country. Now, I want to get to

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Speaker 3: Peter Malanascus because the South Australian election is underway and

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Speaker 3: the premiere is facing criticism for this defense of mass migration.

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Speaker 3: It's a statement that's been called racist.

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Speaker 11: My message to one nation voters is who's going to

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Speaker 11: feed you and bathe you and wipe your bum when

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Speaker 11: you're ninety right, because it ain't going to be your kids,

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Speaker 11: because if I get my way, they're going to be

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Speaker 11: working on submarines with high paying jobs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the next day, Malanascus double down.

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Speaker 11: You would have heard me sort of say a few

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Speaker 11: the country are saying right now.

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Speaker 12: Because it's what I believe.

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Speaker 11: It's what we all believe about the sort of society

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Speaker 9: What is failing because the basics The swan Bank Power

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Speaker 3: I see in Plimer. Thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: Coming up, Lefties Losing class a major case of buyer's

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Speaker 3: the Reader Pantiy Show, and it's time for left is

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Speaker 4: We have to make him leave the He jokes now

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Speaker 5: He ain't leaving no way.

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Speaker 9: No, but he won't.

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Speaker 5: He won't leave.

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Speaker 3: Now, you would have seen the equally unhitched Nicole Wallace

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Speaker 3: And that's not terribly much. So this so called scholar

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Speaker 13: In Canada, I think it's actually the cost of living

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Speaker 13: You know, I'm not a citizen of the country.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait a second, Canada has rules for citizens and

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Speaker 3: non citizens. You're not entitled to essential services if you

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Speaker 3: are not a Canadian. Gosh, when Trump talks about those

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Speaker 3: sorts of policies, it's considered white supremacy and fascism. And

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Speaker 3: our idiot academic, of course, ends this video by begging

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Speaker 3: for free stuff.

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Speaker 13: So privileged because there are two adults, a cat and

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Speaker 13: a dog. We are looking for more than a room,

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Speaker 13: but one bedroom, two bedroom for free or below market rates.

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Speaker 13: And I know that's a huge ask, but that's what

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Speaker 13: we need now.

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Speaker 3: Talking about buyers. Remorse New York to have that in

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Speaker 3: spades after they elected a commies or in mamdani as

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Speaker 3: men thinking they'd be getting cheaper groceries, cheaper rant, free

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Speaker 3: bus trips. Remember the celebrations they were so happy.

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Speaker 2: Sharia last starts now, Ron mcdanie Islamic Caledens our brother

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Speaker 2: in Islam, Islamic Califedia New York starts today. God, there

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Speaker 2: is just something so electric, so satisfying about knowing that

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Speaker 2: my maga parents, wherever they.

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Speaker 8: Are, are probably having a horrible mate tonight.

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Speaker 3: Ah yes, Suariah. Now but instead of free staff, they

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Speaker 3: have rubbish strewn streets, people dying of hypothermia, and soon

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Speaker 3: higher taxes. They thought only the riches of the rich

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Speaker 3: would be hit with higher taxes. Wrong, dead, wrong, and

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Speaker 3: now the regret Israel Maya.

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Speaker 14: The greatest respect in every campaign speech and every debate

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Speaker 14: where you engaged we opened up is to listen now

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Speaker 14: today accept the words echoing from us.

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Speaker 4: Now do your job, is mayor.

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Speaker 14: And leave our taxes saving only two options. You're saying,

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Speaker 14: if we don't tax the rich, then I got to

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Speaker 14: increase property taxes. We are not apporn in Southeast Queens,

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Speaker 14: we are not part of your negotiation tactics. There's on'm donnie,

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Speaker 14: you are out your god dear mine.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at large, Josh Hammer. Josh.

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Speaker 3: We will get to what looks to be a possible

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Speaker 3: assassination attempt at marri Lago later, but first tell me

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Speaker 3: about Mayor ma'm donnie's first fifty or so days in office.

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Speaker 15: Well, Rita, there's no one quote from eachael making when

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Speaker 15: I fear of quotes in North American politics. Actually, he's

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Speaker 15: a twentieth century newspaper columnist and social critic and about

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Speaker 15: a century or so will going there. In the early

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Speaker 15: twentieth century, he famously said that democracy is the theory

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Speaker 15: that the common man knows what he wants and he

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Speaker 15: deserves to get it good and hard. And that is

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Speaker 15: exactly what is happening in New York City. They are

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Speaker 15: getting it really good and really hard. Actually in factory.

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Speaker 15: Not to make this too personal, I was actually sets

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Speaker 15: a flat in New York City for a speaking event.

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Speaker 15: But there's a terrible blizzard having in there now, and

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Speaker 15: partially due to the fear as to how terrible the

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Speaker 15: infrastructure is and the complete inability. Apparently there's gonna be

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Speaker 15: no cars on the road, I'm told now into this

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Speaker 15: Monday here, earlier this week here in New York, because

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Speaker 15: the roads are about to just be completely covered with snow.

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Speaker 15: Back in the day I grew up the New York area,

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Speaker 15: something as prosaic as that. Back in the day, New

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Speaker 15: York City was actually renowned for having the most systemic

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Speaker 15: and efficient and effective snow plowing and snowshoving in the world.

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Speaker 15: I saw earlier today over here back in the US,

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Speaker 15: I saw Mark Levine, the New York City Comptroller, put

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Speaker 15: out an all hands on deck as signal blast to

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Speaker 15: the world, I come sign up to be a volunteer

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Speaker 15: snow shoveler for nineteen dollars in change an hour, which,

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Speaker 15: by the way, I should note, isn't Man's the guy

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Speaker 15: who literally campaigned on a thirty dollars minimum wage. So

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Speaker 15: what you're trying to give thirty dollars minu wage to

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Speaker 15: someone trying to fry your French fries in McDonald's or

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Speaker 15: be an uber driver. But now the city is like

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Speaker 15: actually in crisis. People like me are not coming because

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Speaker 15: we expect it to be a horrific zombie apocalypse during

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Speaker 15: a snowstorm, and you're offering to pay like less than

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Speaker 15: half of the wage. I mean, square that circle for me.

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Speaker 15: So it's absolutely appalling there. The only thing that I

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Speaker 15: can possibly say Reap is that it's good that you

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Speaker 15: have a lot of Democrats, especially the ones in the

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Speaker 15: state capitol Albany, who are starting to push back there,

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Speaker 15: and they're starting to say to the communist and Gracie

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Speaker 15: Manchion in Manhattan there, they're starting to say no. So

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Speaker 15: New York City actually very well might find itself on

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Speaker 15: its own, even within the States of New York, which

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Speaker 15: became really really fascinating development.

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Speaker 3: Well, I love this call for the snow shovelers to

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Speaker 3: come forward, but you do need your ID, Josh. You

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Speaker 3: don't need ID to vote, but you need ID if

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Speaker 3: you want to shovel snow in New York York City.

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Speaker 3: And the budget that ma'm dani is delivering is bigger

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Speaker 3: than Florida, the entire state of Florida. I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: just see where some of this money is going. Some

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Speaker 3: of this large jess five point six million for the

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Speaker 3: Office of Racial Equity, four point six million for the

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Speaker 3: Commission on Racial equity and just a lazy eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty five thousand for the Commission on Gender Equity.

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Speaker 3: This is what New York has voted for, Josh. I mean,

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Speaker 3: can they really plead ignorance when they knew what a

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Speaker 3: radical mamdani is was and they backed him.

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Speaker 15: So I'm glad that you fled the budgetary metrics because

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Speaker 15: it's actually quite revealing. This is actually one of the

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Speaker 15: reasons that there is this newfound tension between the City

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Speaker 15: of New York and the State of New York represented

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Speaker 15: by Kathy Hogle and her Democratic Legislate of allies in Albany. So,

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Speaker 15: the New York City musicumal budget last year was quote

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Speaker 15: unquote only one hundred and seventeen billion, which by the way,

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Speaker 15: is still the same size as you correctly know it

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Speaker 15: as the entire budget off my current state, the state

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Speaker 15: of Florida, where we have a rainy day fund here

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Speaker 15: and money left over because Ron de Santis just totally

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Speaker 15: kicks butt and this state is governed really, really well.

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Speaker 15: So Mamdonnie raises ten billion dollars in the budget from

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Speaker 15: last fiscal year just to this year, and that's apparently

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Speaker 15: that the that ten billion dollars in his inability to

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Speaker 15: close that gap. That is why he is saying to

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Speaker 15: his fellow Democrats in Albany, you guys better soak the

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Speaker 15: rich or else dot dot dot. I'm gonna soak the

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Speaker 15: middle and working class. We have property taxes. But you know,

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Speaker 15: you didn't have to raise the municipal budget by ten

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Speaker 15: billion dollars. You could have left it. It was pretty bloated.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I would like to have a conversation. I

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Speaker 15: wanted to see I see a conversation begin about trimming

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Speaker 15: the budget. I mean, how about that for a while.

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Speaker 9: Thing.

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Speaker 15: You know, let's get Elon Muskin's a many doze team there,

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Speaker 15: you know, in city Hall in New York City there,

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Speaker 15: but at bare minimbro at a bare bare minimum Kenya

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Speaker 15: not inflate on top of a municipal budget that's literally

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Speaker 15: the exact same size as the nation's third largest state,

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Speaker 15: of the very free state of Florida. There, it is

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Speaker 15: totally astounding. But again, this one New Yorkers apparently want there.

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Speaker 15: I find it positively horrifying, frankly, but it's what they

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Speaker 15: wanted and they're getting it.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Elections have consequences, and New Yorkers are feeling

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Speaker 3: those consequences right now. Now, let's talk about what happened

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Speaker 3: in Palm Beach, Florida, at President Trump's Mara Lago property

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Speaker 3: earlier today, where a man in his early twenties was

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Speaker 3: shot and killed by Secret Service agents in the early

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Speaker 3: hours of the morning. Is this being treated as an

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Speaker 3: assassination attempt? Josh?

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Speaker 15: So, it's very early and we don't necessarily have There

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Speaker 15: was not like a big FBI press conference or anything

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Speaker 15: like that. So will probably learn more exactly as to

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Speaker 15: how law enforce was going to treat this in the

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Speaker 15: in the days to come. It strongly looks to me

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Speaker 15: like this man had every intention of trying to assassinate

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Speaker 15: Dald Trump and wife Mlanian Trump. I believe he actually

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Speaker 15: drove down from North Carolina. Turns out that Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: was actually not even at Marlago. He was in Washington,

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Speaker 15: DC at that time. There the details the story or

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Speaker 15: such that he had a shotgun and a barrel of gasoline,

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Speaker 15: One could only speculate as to why he would have

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Speaker 15: a personal tank of gasoline with him there trying to

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Speaker 15: get onto the prentises of Marlago, and apparently when law

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Speaker 15: enforce saw his weapon and said drop, and he kept

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Speaker 15: on raising it. That's when he was fatally shot. These

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Speaker 15: people are invariably mentally ill. Think back to Ryan Routh,

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Speaker 15: who was the man I believe also who was last

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Speaker 15: scene actually living in North Carolina, who came down to

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Speaker 15: West Pond Beach, Florida and tried to assassin Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: playing on the Trumpet International Golf Course in West Pond

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Speaker 15: Beach back in September twenty twenty four. This guy was

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Speaker 15: a lunatic off his rockers. He was basically a Reddit

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Speaker 15: comments section come to life. He was spouting off all

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Speaker 15: these platudes. The question, rita, is where are these people

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Speaker 15: getting riled up? Who were they listening to? How are

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Speaker 15: they being radicalized to try to take down Donald Trump?

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Speaker 15: Tried to tried toically in this case, successfully assassinate my

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Speaker 15: late friend Charlie Kirk. Who is inspiring these people who

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Speaker 15: are already vulnerable, already frankly deeply unstable and probably just

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Speaker 15: mentally unwell. Who is taking advantage of these vulnerable people

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Speaker 15: and then trying to instigate them to attack acts or

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Speaker 15: to commit acts of violence. And frankly, that is a

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Speaker 15: very grave question and has a very very straightforward answer,

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Speaker 15: which is it is elected Democrats, whether it's Tim Walls

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Speaker 15: and Jacob Frye in the state of Minnesota, trying to

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Speaker 15: kind of borrow the Hamas play before the Middle East,

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Speaker 15: trying to get these people to sacrifice themselves in an

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Speaker 15: act of martyrdom for the sake of winning the public

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Speaker 15: relations war. That's what we saw happen with Renee Good,

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Speaker 15: with Alex Preddy there in Minnesota. There here, we don't

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Speaker 15: know exactly who it is, but I can certainly speculate.

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Speaker 15: I think back to the shooter in twenty seventeen who

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Speaker 15: shot up half the re public congressional baseball team. That guy,

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Speaker 15: James Hodgkinson was his name was. They died in the

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Speaker 15: wall MSNBC viewer sometimes Rita. It's really actually as simple

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Speaker 15: as that they are trying to get these people to

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Speaker 15: commit terrible, terrible things.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you have this endless narrative of we're living

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Speaker 3: under a fascist regime and everyone's rights are in jeopardy

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Speaker 3: and Trump is the new age Hitler, then it's not

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Speaker 3: surprising that mentally ill people may take it upon themselves

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Speaker 3: to do something about that. And I've got to say,

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Speaker 3: talk about mentally ill people online. The comments I've seen

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Speaker 3: on pieces about this just again appalling, but sadly not

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Speaker 3: all that surprising, people saying at least he had to go,

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Speaker 3: he had the right idea. Hope the next one can

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Speaker 3: follow through that sort of commentary. It seems to be

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Speaker 3: just so prevalent and so normalized among the left. The

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Speaker 3: left has a problem with political violence. We've seen it

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Speaker 3: over and over again, and it's something that is not

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Speaker 3: widely acknowledged, certainly in the media.

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Speaker 15: Josh, this is the issue that will tear America apart.

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Speaker 15: I'm really not exactly when I say that, if there

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Speaker 15: is any issue that genuinely will take this country down,

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Speaker 15: I mean that very very sincerely. Look, Abraham Lincoln, my

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Speaker 15: favorite here in American Hanser, gave a very famous speech

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Speaker 15: in eighteen thirty eight called the Lyceum Address in Springfield, Illinois.

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Speaker 15: Who's actually only twenty nine years all the time, I

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Speaker 15: believe twenty or twenty nine, and he famously said that

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Speaker 15: America would never be destroyed from beyond from with that

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Speaker 15: that she would only be destroyed from within and would

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Speaker 15: come essentially at our own hands. Now now, tragically, Lincoln

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Speaker 15: actually was quite prescient he of course, loved the country

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Speaker 15: through the Civil War, where we came perilously close to

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Speaker 15: doing exactly that. But now here we are, over a

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Speaker 15: century and a half after the Civil War, and for

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Speaker 15: many people, overwhelmingly, as you correctly note, on the political left,

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Speaker 15: they have made a decision where they are not content

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Speaker 15: to simply let our political disagreements be hashed out in

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Speaker 15: the marketplace for ideas, they will not be settled at

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Speaker 15: the ballot box. And the day that more and more

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Speaker 15: people finally find aside to ditch the ballot box once

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Speaker 15: and for all, and to take up knives and firearms,

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Speaker 15: and god forbid, it's something even worse than that ends

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Speaker 15: placed there. That really is the day that the American

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Speaker 15: public becomes periously close to just dying off there. You know,

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Speaker 15: you know, famously this country was made as republic if

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Speaker 15: you can keep it. It is what Benjamin Franklin said back

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Speaker 15: in seventeen eighty seven to a curious onlooker there in

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Speaker 15: the Conscial Convention in Philadelphia. And it really is up

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Speaker 15: to us to keep this republic there, and political violence

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Speaker 15: could easily be the death knell of this country.

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Speaker 3: After now to the Supreme Court decision, on President Trump's tariffs.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about this decision. The court was split six three,

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Speaker 3: and just as Kavanagh wrote, a very interesting dissentic, explain

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Speaker 3: this ruling to my audience, Josh, what do you expect

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Speaker 3: to say happening next?

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Speaker 15: So the first thing to know was just kind of

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Speaker 15: before we get into legal weeds, is it's going to

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Speaker 15: be a total mess if the government actually has to

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Speaker 15: start offering refunds for the dozens hundreds I think it's

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Speaker 15: a rough one hundred and s twenty five billion dollars

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Speaker 15: in TOWERFF revenue that they have already corrected through these

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Speaker 15: reciprocal taratiffs, which have been implemented through this late nineteen

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Speaker 15: seventy statute, the iee PA, the International Economic Emergency Powers

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Speaker 15: at So the basic legal argument here is that the

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Speaker 15: statute that passed during the Jimmy Carter presidency a little

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Speaker 15: over a half century ago, give or take, was it

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Speaker 15: allows the president Congress delegates to the president the ability

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Speaker 15: to regulate importation when there is an economic emergency. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 15: because of his theory on trade, he cares a lot

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Speaker 15: about the balance of trade. He cares a lot about

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Speaker 15: the fact that America has been ripped off by the

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Speaker 15: globals class for a long time there viewed our massive

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Speaker 15: trade sits as a economic emergency, and he therefore invoked

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Speaker 15: the statute to impose these tariffs. On the other side,

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Speaker 15: you have the basic constitutional baseline that says that Congress

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Speaker 15: shall have the ability to impose duties, so tariffs and

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Speaker 15: things like that. So the basic legal question is did

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Speaker 15: this statute carve out a dispensation from from the basic

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Speaker 15: constitutional rule. I was very candid with with my on

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Speaker 15: an audience on my show Rita. I said, this is

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Speaker 15: actually a very close legal question. I also said that

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Speaker 15: that the administration is correct. I do think that that

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Speaker 15: Kavanaugh has the better of the argument in his descent.

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Speaker 15: I am hardly shocked, though, from being candid that the

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Speaker 15: administration lost. I thought that Neil Gorstitch, I thought that

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Speaker 15: Amy Cony Barrett, I thought that some of these Republican

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Speaker 15: nominal justice would go the other way and sought against

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Speaker 15: the administration. The good news is that there's there are

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Speaker 15: plenty of other statutes that seem to actually be sure

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Speaker 15: legal footing for Donald Trump to dus after this. Kav

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Speaker 15: Nor towards the end of his descent actually lists at

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Speaker 15: least three or four different statutes. So the good news

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Speaker 15: is that I'm think we might have we will probably

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Speaker 15: get into this very messy, sordid business of giving out refunds.

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Speaker 15: Whoever the heck tho it possibly work there? I think

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Speaker 15: Trump will probably just tried to do this all over

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Speaker 15: again on a different statute. I'm sure some people will

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Speaker 15: suit to be clear, but some of these other statues

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Speaker 15: seem to have surely legal footing.

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Speaker 3: What I can tell, Well, apparently this ruling did not

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Speaker 3: mention what to do with the hundreds of billions that's

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Speaker 3: already been collected. You would think that would be something

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Speaker 3: to actually, I don't know comment on before you go,

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Speaker 3: is Amy Cony Barrett Donald Trump's biggest mistake of his

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Speaker 3: first term or amongst his biggest mistakes? Because she has

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Speaker 3: had she's been on she's been a frustration for the administration,

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Speaker 3: let's just say, yeah.

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Speaker 15: It's a interesting question.

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Speaker 3: Look, I will say this.

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Speaker 15: I will say that the two most concernative justice on

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Speaker 15: the US Supreme Courts by far are Clarence Thomas, the

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Speaker 15: same Aliito. Clarence Thomas has been on the Core for

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Speaker 15: thirty five years, a leado for twenty years there.

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Speaker 5: All three of.

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Speaker 15: Trump's picks are correct more often than they are incorrect.

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Speaker 15: None of them is a Clarence Thomas or Sam Alito

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Speaker 15: stalwart for it's worth three. In my own personal two cents,

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Speaker 15: I think Donald Trump's worst mistake from his first term

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Speaker 15: was the first step act. This pro criminal justice forum

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Speaker 15: jailbreak legislation there was kind of ushered in by Kim

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Speaker 15: Kardashian and Kanye West. Unfortunately, is kind of a bit

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Speaker 15: of a precursor to the George floy Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 15: summer Trump Freudsworth has done something of a mayor culp

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Speaker 15: on that there. I don't think that we'll ever see

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Speaker 15: that again there, God William, We'll continue to do a

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Speaker 15: little better when it comes to judicial nominations, including the

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Speaker 15: US Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: Josh Shamma, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Up next, the Royal Spacing and Unprecedented Crisis will take

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Speaker 3: a deep dive into the man formerly known as Prince

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Speaker 3: Andrew kinzisco Field joins me next. Welcome back joining me

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Speaker 3: now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey's schofield Kinsey, There's so

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Speaker 3: much to hunpack with the scandal involving Andrew Madden Windsor.

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Speaker 3: It has plunged the monarchy into almost an unprecedented crisis,

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Speaker 3: really biggest we've seen since the application of the Nazi

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Speaker 3: sympathizing King Edward the Eighth. Now, if you're wondering how

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Speaker 3: well Andrew Cope's under pressure, let's remind the audience of

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Speaker 3: how he went during this ill advised interview with the

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Speaker 3: BBC back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 16: She was very specific about that night. She described dancing

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Speaker 16: with you and you profusely sweating, and that she went

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Speaker 16: on to have bomb.

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Speaker 17: Possibly there's a slight problem with the sweating because I

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Speaker 17: have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don't sweat,

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Speaker 17: or I didn't sweat at the time, and that was

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Speaker 17: I assume, yes, I didn't sweat at the time, because

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Speaker 17: I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose

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Speaker 17: of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at,

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Speaker 17: and I simply it was almost impossible for me to sweat.

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Speaker 3: Kinsey, I'm lost for words. Not only did he lie

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Speaker 3: repeatedly throughout that interview, but some of the lies were.

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Speaker 18: Ridiculous, ridiculous, And you see now that we've had this

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Speaker 18: dooj dro jump that now we have this interview to

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Speaker 18: compare it to. He lies about the picture. It's a

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Speaker 18: picture of a picture of a picture. Well there's Glane saying,

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Speaker 18: I'm there, that's the real picture. This interview is going

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Speaker 18: to haunt him more than he could ever imagine, with

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Speaker 18: investigators calling through these emails, now through evidence that they're

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Speaker 18: pulling out of his home, and this BBC interview.

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Speaker 3: Now I have a look at this clip of that,

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Speaker 3: say BBC journalist who did the interview back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: she now feels sympathy for it.

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Speaker 19: We talk a lot about people's sort of state of

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Speaker 19: mind and health and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 5: And I suppose I do feel.

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Speaker 19: I feel concern actually as I'm watching this story unfold,

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Speaker 19: and I suppose that two things can be simultaneously true,

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Speaker 19: That it can have been a long time coming. But

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Speaker 19: when it does, there is somebody at the center of it,

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Speaker 19: and it is a father, and there are children, and

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Speaker 19: there is a mental health question.

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Speaker 3: Kinsia, what do you make of that assessment there? Do

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Speaker 3: you feel sympathy for him and his mental health struggles

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Speaker 3: at the moment?

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Speaker 18: I mean, that's you know, I will say. In January,

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Speaker 18: Keith Mansey reported in the Times that Prince William was

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Speaker 18: deeply concerned for his uncle's mental health and how Andrew

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Speaker 18: would cope after everything was taken away. He supported the

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Speaker 18: King but was worried about the consequences. Legally, Andrew's mental

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Speaker 18: health only matters it affected his state of mind at

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Speaker 18: the time of the alleged offenses or his ability to

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Speaker 18: face trial today. If that comes to fruition morally, it

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Speaker 18: might be a different story.

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Speaker 3: Now, as sources told People magazine that Prince Harry is

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Speaker 3: getting frustrated with people comparing him to his uncle Andrew.

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Speaker 3: The insider said Harry served his country, did the job

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Speaker 3: well and never engaged in misconduct, yet lost security and

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Speaker 3: housing while Andrew was protected for years. Kinsey, what's your

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Speaker 3: take on that.

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Speaker 18: I mean, well, you already mentioned one Winsor sympathizer, a

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Speaker 18: Nazi sympathizer. We saw Harry in a Nazi costume. We've

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Speaker 18: seen him use racist language in videos. I think one

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Speaker 18: thing Harry and Meghan and Andrew haven't. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 18: just saying he's not perfect, but one thing that they

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Speaker 18: do have in common is needing to be more careful

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Speaker 18: about the company they keep. Lily's godfather and best need

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Speaker 18: in Megan Tyler Perry facing two separate civil lawsuits from

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Speaker 18: actors alleging sexual assault, battery, in misconduct. He says he's

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Speaker 18: gonna said Chrissy Tagan has a horrible digital footprint up

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Speaker 18: harassing literally harassing children online. Megan's friend, Whitney Wolford has

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Speaker 18: recently been exposed for using the N word. If the

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Speaker 18: Epstein fallout should teach Harry anything, it's that your circle

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Speaker 18: reflects your character.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it does. And yeah, Chrissy, we've got to talk

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Speaker 3: about tea getting down the track because yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 3: her digital footprint is terrible. She's deleted a lot of it,

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Speaker 3: but you never really deleted anything from the internet. Now,

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Speaker 3: people have been digging through Virginia Giuffray's memoir Nobody Girl

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Speaker 3: for more references about the former prince, and in the memoir,

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Speaker 3: Giffray revisited the night she met the Royal. Apparently Gilaine

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Speaker 3: Maxwell asked the prince to guess Geffray's age, Andrew guests

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Speaker 3: correctly saying seventeen, adding my daughters are just a little

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Speaker 3: younger than you can see. It's a little bit creepy.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a lot creepy coverage of princesses Beatrice and

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Speaker 18: Eugenie have you know. I think it's been consistent. I

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Speaker 18: think the girls still love and support their father despite

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Speaker 18: horrible headlines like these. They remained publicly loyal to their dad.

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Speaker 18: They've maintained close ties to their mom as well, and

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Speaker 18: behind the scenes are often understood to help with reputational

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Speaker 18: and logistical matters during difficult periods. It was in fact

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Speaker 18: Beatrice who helped Andrew prepare for that infamous PBC interview,

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Speaker 18: but the scale and to assistance of the Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 18: scandal could ultimately test just how sustainable that loyalty is

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Speaker 18: going forward.

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Speaker 3: Now. On the same day that Andrew was arrested, Megan

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Speaker 3: Mikael was sharing a message to her followers. She sent

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Speaker 3: an email promoting her products as part of her as

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Speaker 3: Ever brand, saying, whether temperature drops, we start by striking

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Speaker 3: a match, a steady flame on the table, soft light

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Speaker 3: in the corners of the room, the familiar comfort of

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Speaker 3: a scent that instantly changes the mood. Just beautiful marketing there.

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Speaker 18: Kinsey, so Delulu, I want to have whatever Meghan Markle

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Speaker 18: and Prince Area are having because wow it is. I mean,

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Speaker 18: while the UK watched the Senior Royal taken into custody,

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Speaker 18: there's Megan Markle sending out a glossy email, pushing her

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Speaker 18: wickless handles. A masterclass in tone death timing. Groth that

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Speaker 18: self awareness is not a part of a brand strategy,

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Speaker 18: but you know what, what do we expect? When he

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Speaker 18: was stripped of his titles, they were front and center

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Speaker 18: at a Dodgers game being booed. As you know, chaos

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Speaker 18: sued over the DOJ dump. Here's Harry and Meghan court

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Speaker 18: side at a basketball game.

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Speaker 3: Let live in this fantasy land, kinsis go.

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Speaker 6: Phil.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 3: all the time we have. I'll see you at eleven

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Newsnight is up next