1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Hey Chicks, I'm out and I'm so and. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: This is two broad Chicks, the show that shares life 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: And Hello Hello Sally, Hello, Hello Allie. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: How are your birthday gear? 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: I'm good. Well, we had a very special day this week. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: About it, we did so it was my birthday this week. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: Everybody rushed to the comments and send me birthday wishes 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: and of course Alex absolutely spoiled me. It is so 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: handy having her best friend who has all of the 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: love languages. I will say thank you, but obviously especially 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: on your birthday. The gifts, the gift giving is really 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: ten out of ten. But we had a beautiful day. 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely got spoiled with presies. And then we went to 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: the parlor room in Red Firm and got a massage 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: facial combo. I feel like this needs to be a 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: requisite for everyone's birthdays. 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Yea, yes, it was so good. 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: And some people that don't like massages though, that's true. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: When we were in the massage yesterday, at one point 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: I was like, massages are such a weird like you're 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: just rubbing me concepts like I'm almost nude where basically, 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: and I was also wearing my little pony undies. We 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: left the massage and you know how they like, also 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: massuses are getting braver and braver with how far they 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: yanking down that towel. Let's go my whole ass, and 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: they were always like, okay, Andy's on. And then I 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: consciously just wore my plain black full brief underwear. 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: I had a g shrim and I was like, oh, 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: that might be a bit crazyah and change. 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: And then we left and I was like, also, I 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: forgot to put my little pony undies on today. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: And I was like show me. 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: I was like, show me now, and she's owed me herundies. 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: I was like, that's not okay. Were they're literally like 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: little kid under Yeah, they're the Peter Alexander once and 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: they truly look like you were wearing, like not adult underwear. No, 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: but they're really really company. I do recommend those undies, 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: but anyway, undies aside fabulous. And then we went home 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: and we read our books in bed. It was amazing 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: little bocker Boker, Yeah, and I was like reading the 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: end of my book, which was a thriller, so over 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: that five seconds hour was just watching me going oh oh, 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: because there was plot twist after pot twist. I was like, 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: h speaking of getting older and birthdays. 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Today we're going to be talking. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: About nostalgia and the business of nostalgia because it's been 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: it's a booming business. Yeah, absolutely, And I think marketing 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: and pop culture has probably always played on nostalgia. It's 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: truly you niversal emotion, but it feels like in the 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: last ten to fifteen years it's really ramped up. So 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm excited to get into it me too. But before 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: we do that, would you like to tell me your obsession? 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: My obsession? 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? My two one these obsessions? 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Wow, that was a really good one, really beautiful. 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that could have been a real guitar. 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, totally tell me If it's not No, I 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: don't want to hear. I don't want to hear about it. 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Let me stay in my stage of delusion. 63 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: My obsession is a shared obsession, I think, and it's 64 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: love story on Disney Class. So I'm sure the episode today, Yeah, 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I know, I can't wait. I was going to say 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: next week. Yeah, we're getting to the end, so maybe 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm putting the cart before the horse because the series 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: hasn't ended yet, but we have watched the majority of people. 69 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Really yeah, but I can't wait to get it wrong. 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: Put the horse before the car, put the goat before 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: the car, before the donkey. 72 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: What am I saying the car yesterday? 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you said. I really want to write them 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: all down and we can release them as like a 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: coffee table. 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh there's too many. 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: And one of our favorite ones that I did a 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: couple maybe months ago, maybe a year ago was float 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: like a butterfly, sting like a beaver, and I went, not, 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: that's not it, sting. 81 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I've got really big teeth. I knew that one was 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: wrong straight away. 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: They do. And then for the podcast last week, this 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: was it when I was. 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Going, don't bite your nose to spie your face. No, 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: that's not it. We got that. 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: You always get there on the air. 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: It's like a workshop. 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: I like to invite everyone into Brainstorm Remix creativity. Yeah 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: but anyway, Yeah, back to Love Story. It's on Disney 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: Plus and it's a TV series that chronicles the relationship 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: of CBK and JFK Junior. So Carolyn Bessett Kennedy Yeah, 93 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: so a very iconic couple from the nineties. But I 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: think because we would have been so young at the time, 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: I wasn't super familiar with their story, Like I knew 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: about them as a couple and that they spoiler alert 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: for anybody who didn't know that they did tragically pass away. 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it definitely is a very interesting series. 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: But I do have to say I've been enjoying it. 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: The music is amazing, the fashion is great, the actors 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: are incredible. But I do feel a little bit conflicted 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: enjoying the show because you know, with shows like this, 103 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: especially when they're not involving the family members or people 104 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: who knew them, I'm like, is there like an ethical 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: moral gray line with creating shows like this, especially when 106 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: they do have living relatives, And how I would feel if, 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: you know, like a piece of work was created about 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: a family member that I knew. Yeah, And I mean 109 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: I think we've seen that with shows like this nature, 110 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: even with people that haven't passed away, like Pamela Anderson precisely. 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that is a good, good notion. Yeah, exactly, 112 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: Like I wanted to flag it as it is an 113 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: enjoyable show and I do a good TV show, but yeah, yeah, 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to flag that that potential gray area there. 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: My obsession of the week is that Australians could be 116 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: getting a four day work week. 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Now they've been dangling this parrot for me, dula. 118 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: What proposal has been put forward? This okay? 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: So millions of Australians could transition to a four day 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: work week with five weeks annual leave under rewrite to 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: National employment standards. So Australia's biggest unions are ramping up 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: pressure on the Albanezer government to rewrite the National Employment standards, 123 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: including a pathway to a four day work week and 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: a booster annual leave for millions of workers. So the 125 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Australian Services Union, which represents more than one hundred and 126 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand workers it cross sectors like transport, social services, 127 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: local government and airlines, has told a federal review it 128 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: wants a standardized four day work week of thirty point four. 129 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: Hours with no loss of pay. 130 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: I know. 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: So it also wants six months paid notice for workers 132 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: whose jobs are being made redundant to AI, which I 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: think is really scary that this is even like being 134 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: put forward towards the government but I think it is 135 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: absolutely something that's necessary because we've just seen after pay 136 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: let Go. 137 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: I think it was half of their workforce. Wow, due 138 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: to technology, was there? Yeah? 139 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: And their word usage. 140 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Didn't at Lassian do the same or a similar thing 141 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: in recent weeks because of that too, And they also 142 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 3: did cite AI as the reason why. 143 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: The union also wants to scrap medical certificates for single 145 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: day absences, with certificates only required after two days. 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think all of these I think yes, I 147 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: think yeah, Yeah, I think we should. And you want 148 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: to know what's interesting is that when I looked this up, 149 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: I then saw a video of ours from a couple 150 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: of years ago when a proposition for a four day 151 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: work week was put towards. 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: The government, which was backed by Labor and the Greens. 153 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 3: So put your moneywamouth. And because multiple studies have been 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: done in other countries that have shown that productivity has 155 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: actually either not decreased or increased when they introduced a 156 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: four day work week. 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Which businesses don't see a loss of revenue. 158 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: No, because we're fucking tired by Friday, a bro, we're 159 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: twiddling our thumbs doing shit. All all right, let's get 160 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: into the app is twenty twenty six stuck in nostalgia? 161 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: Do you think we were saying up top? This has 162 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: definitely been a trend that we've seen probably over the 163 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: last like ten to fifteen years. But I do think 164 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: that in twenty twenty six, a lot of like the 165 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: biggest pop culture moments that we've seen are a throwback 166 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: or tied to nostalgia in some way, like the Hillary 167 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: duff renaissance and her whole tour, the Hannah Montana twentieth 168 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: year anniversary, even like the whole conversation that we had 169 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: last week about IS twenty twenty six, the New twenty 170 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: sixteen and the King Kylie era, the surge of popularity 171 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: of brands like Von Dutch or ed Hardy or Juicy Yeah, yeah, 172 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 3: god yeah seriously, the Tkmax and also like the Auto 173 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 3: Barn like Juicy car collection that went viral. Yeah. 174 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: I didn't get that, to be honest, but. 175 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like so many of the big pop culture 176 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: moments that we've seen, like nostalgia or a reboot or 177 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: a revival, or have some sort of tie to something 178 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: that was really popular in the past. I was even 179 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: looking up like the top ten grossing movies in the 180 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: US of twenty twenty five, and all of them except 181 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: for one, were like a reboot or a revival or 182 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: a sequel or related to something of the past. WYEA. Yeah, 183 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: so it was the one that wasn't Sinners fucking Knew It? 184 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, which ten out of ten movie. Interesting to note 185 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: that the original, the one original movie that was in 186 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: that top ten list was the one that SWEEPEDC Yeah. 187 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: Exactly, which we'll get into a little bit later in 188 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: the episode. But I do think that people are yearning 189 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: for fresh content a little bit because of this. We're 190 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: sort of, yeah, we're torn between these two things. But 191 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: it's hardly surprising because nostalgia is a universal emotion, right, 192 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Like a lot of us do experience that. But I 193 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: do think that millennials and gen z experience it, especially 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: for probably a few different reasons, one of which because 195 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: we're going through tough times at the moment, Like there's 196 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: a lot in the news headlines that is very stressful. 197 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: It's a time period of uncertainty, and we're yearning for 198 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: either simpler times that we grew up with or even 199 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: simpler times that we never got to experience that were 200 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: like pre digital era. 201 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I was reading an article from the New York Times 202 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: that said, why is gen z obsessed with the nineties? 203 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: And it's about the fact that the lack of technology 204 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: is a main. 205 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Fueler of said obsession. 206 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the fact that you know, in rom coms, 207 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: in movies, in so many of those like physical media outlets. 208 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Technology wasn't such a present thing. And so to see 209 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: like a society, a universe, in a world where it 210 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't revolve around social media and you know, online tech, 211 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: that that's where that obsession comes from, and that natural 212 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: rebellion to go offline, which we spoke about in our 213 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: Hobbies episode Yeah, going analogue, Yeah, of going analog, and 214 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: how that was so deeply tied to doing things you 215 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: would do when you were a kid. 216 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, or even that our parents would do. So Yeah, 217 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: I think that completely makes sense. And I also thought 218 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: this like kind of that whole theory or concept was 219 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: put really eloquently by the by marketing expert and content 220 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: creator Ashley Obarco, who said, what people have really craving 221 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: isn't the aesthetic, it's the escape, which I was like, Yeah, 222 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: I think that perfectly puts it. Do you reckon You're 223 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: a nostalgic person. Oh yeah, have you always been or 224 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: do you feel like as you got older you've become 225 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: more Nostalgiica, I've always been like such a like love 226 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: the feeling of a memory. Yep. 227 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: I think sometimes that can bite me in the bump. Yeah, 228 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I think nostalgia can be like a double edged sword, which. 229 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: I know we'll chat a little bit about. 230 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: But I do think I have always romanticized the past 231 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: a lot. But I think that is also just comes 232 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:47,239 Speaker 3: from like the you know, privilege of having like a really. 233 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Fun childhood and just. 234 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: Like also just I just wear rose colored glasses when 235 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: I look at things like that, and I do romanticize 236 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: it and I do. 237 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: Love it, but I do just think it was I 238 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: think we grew up. 239 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: In a really really good era, Like it was pretty 240 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: fucking top tier, like the nineties and early two thousands. 241 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: They were iconic. 242 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: They were iconic. 243 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 244 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, what about you? Do you consider yourself a nostalgia. 245 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're just You're like, I have to ask 246 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: me about that. I think I'm potentially one of the 247 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: most nostalgic people I know. I agree, and I'm the same. 248 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: I always have band like I remember when I was 249 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: in I think maybe year seven, and I was watching 250 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: the OC and they featured the song Forever Young by 251 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: Youth Group. You know the song I'm talking about, and 252 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: it's a cover of an old song. But I remember 253 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: at the time like just feeling like that song like 254 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: perfectly encapsulates how I feel about nostalgia. And I think 255 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: I was like twelve, and I was like, I'm old, 256 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm about to turn thirteen. The best years are behind me, 257 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, and I think that perfectly encapsulates. But a 258 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: lot of my interests, like my current interests, are still 259 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: very informed by the things that I loved when I 260 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: was a kid and teenager. But I do also think 261 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: I fall into that bucket of yearning for a time 262 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: in the past, like a lot of and you're the same. 263 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: A lot of our musical interests come from the seventies 264 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: and eighties, like times that we weren't even alive for. 265 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't think that nostalgia is a bad thing. 266 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing. A lot of the 267 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: things I really love informed by nostalgia. But we'll get 268 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: into some of the complexities of it. But we did 269 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: also poll the chicks and asked which era you romanticize 270 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: the most. We gave you four choices. Childhood, high school, 271 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: early twenties, and right now. So seventeen percent of you 272 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: romanticized high school the most. It's the lowest number, and 273 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm like facts, Yeah, honestly relatable content. That is probably 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: the one thing I don't look back on with rose 275 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: colored glasses and think I miss that. 276 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't pay me. 277 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: Like you know how there are those movies where you like, 278 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: go back in time when you're a high schooler again. No, 279 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: may feel seventeen again. That's my hell loop. Oh if 280 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: I could be in seventeen again with Dak Carefron, that's 281 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: now different. Yeah, but fuck fuck that's a good movie. 282 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: It's so good and he is so hot. That's maybe 283 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: the best he's ever looked. Seventeen again, zac Efron should 284 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: be illegal. Yeah, that movie is like do you know what? 285 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: That movie is the same font as easy a. 286 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah that those two movies is like Thursday and 287 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: seven different things but the same thing. Yeah, I give 288 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: the same vibe. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Childhood was twenty one percent, 289 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: right now was twenty seven percent, and then early twenties 290 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: was thirty five percent. So early twenties is the error 291 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: that we romanticize the most. See that's I was surprised 292 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: by that. Yeah, I thought that childhood would be the 293 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: most romanticized eraror because that's what we see kind of 294 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: pulled into so much at the moment that it's like 295 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 3: the nostalgia that is being kind of recycled, I would say. 296 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Online and through brands is predominantly childhood nostalgia. 297 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, of that like nineties, early two thousands, which I 298 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: guess that depends on how old you are and where 299 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: that sits, right, true, But yeah, I was surprised that early. 300 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Twenties was first. 301 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Right now was second, like present day were second, and 302 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: then childhood was third. 303 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: High school I Yeah, that one checks out for. 304 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: Me, because yeah, I would have thought I probably would 305 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: have thought it would have been high school right now, 306 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: early twenties, then childhood. Yeah, that's like the rankings up, 307 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, everyone's different. But yeah, so I was surprised 308 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: to see that. 309 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: But I thought it was also maybe a bit nice 310 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: to see present day so high up, to see people 311 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: acknowledging like, no, because even today, there's going to be 312 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: a day that I'm nostalgic for today and I do 313 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: like to remind myself of that sometimes as well, because 314 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: like even in like my you know, one bedroom two 315 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: bedroom apartments that I've lived in right that I know, 316 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: I say this to Rob all the time, that like, 317 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a day where we look back and 318 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: be like, remember that apartment where that we lived. 319 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: In without two cats. 320 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: We you're just sleeping because we didn't have any kids, 321 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. There's gonna be a day where 322 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: I look back on right now and be like, fuck, 323 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: that feels like ages ago, and like you will have 324 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: those nostalgic moments. So I mean you always say like 325 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: the good old days are right now. And I thought 326 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: that was a nice little reminder of that. 327 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: But yeah, what did you think? 328 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did like that. I wondered if it's because 329 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: we do have a lot more conversations now about romanticizing 330 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: your day to day and I think since probably the pandemic, 331 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: that's become like a big conversation and people are trying 332 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: to be more present and practice ways that they can 333 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: romanticize the present day. Because initially I didn't think that that. 334 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, why is that so high? And 335 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: then I was like, maybe that's why because people are 336 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: more conscious of how to romanticize the present. But yeah, 337 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: I definitely thought that childhood was going to be the top. Yeah, same, Yeah, 338 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: And I think where that comes in is kind of 339 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: what we were saying before is how we're kind of 340 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 3: entering this era of nostalgia marketing and fatigue. So another 341 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: reason why it probably seems like we're constantly surrounded by 342 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: throwbacks is because nostalgia has become this like clever marketing tactic. 343 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: And you know, we've seen so much about you know, 344 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: embracing your inner child through purchases and hobbies that that's. 345 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: Kind of where this comes into with nostalgia baate And 346 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: like what is nostalgia bate and why does it make 347 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: you spend money? So, nostalgia bate is a technique used 348 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: in marketing to capitalize on our positive memories of the past. 349 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: It uses familiar ideas, products, or events to help create 350 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: trust and establish a relationship between the company and the consumer, 351 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: and ninety two percent of consumers feel that nostalgia makes 352 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: advertisements more relatable. According to Statista, I fucking love that Dame. 353 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: You knew I was going to go there every time? 354 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: Every time Statistatattista Da. 355 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: And Forbes also reported that eighty percent of gen Z 356 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: and millennial seek brands that resonate with their nostalgia. 357 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm like already waiting. 358 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: For at least one joke, being like, what's gen Z 359 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: nostalgic for? They were literally children two days ago? So true, 360 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: but I'm like, this is all good, baby, yeah nostalgic. 361 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: And so I wanted to share some example of nostalgia marketing. 362 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: So one would be like the Lancorm juicy tubes campaign 363 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: that tapped into two thousands nostalgia with Hillary. 364 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: Duff and Paris Hilton. 365 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Loved that, the Roade Peptide lip campaign that recreated the 366 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: iconic nineties versaci ad of the supermodels in the fluffy 367 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: knits and metallic skirts. Even companies like Nintendo selling its 368 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: original console. 369 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Sucker for that one. That one would have got me. 370 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: Like Polaroid, Yeah yeah. 371 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: So many, even Kodak cameras, like the resurgence of film 372 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: cameras and like the Kodak camera blind boxes that went viral. 373 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah again fell for those those one that one can 374 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: have my money, Yeah, I like that one. In twenty 375 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: twenty six, the following trends have also reported to be 376 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: making a comeback, and you know Carolyn Bessett Kennedy's nineties 377 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: fashion and the surge like Calvin Klein has seen as 378 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: a result of that, you know, two thousands inspired military 379 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: jackets like the Camo and the Penny Lane coat. So yes, 380 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: trends are cyclical. 381 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: But a large part of that is because of the 382 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: nature of nostalgia. I also think with the amount of 383 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: just sheer reboots we're seeing, yeah, that it's not even 384 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: just like products that are tapping into nostalgia baiting, but movies. 385 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: Entertainment, music. 386 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: You know, we've just seen so many reboots. 387 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: We saw all sequels of classic TV shows and movies. 388 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you would have seen this yet, 389 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: but it's just been announced that One Tree Hill is 390 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: getting a reboot. 391 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, with original cast or what's happening. 392 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 393 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: So apparently it'll be focusing on Peyton and Brook. 394 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: Oh doesn't the original already focus on Peyton and Brook. 395 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: I'm so confused, I know. 396 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: But the thing is, we've also, in the same week 397 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: seen the Buffy reboot canceled. 398 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, from Hulu exactly. 399 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: And this critique has been given from consumers to the 400 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, and the entertainment industry's response was basically. 401 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 3: Like, well you go and watch it. Yeah, and it 402 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: ties into nostalgia and the sense of safety because people 403 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: rewatching certain shows or movies or TV shows actually stems 404 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: from like an anxiety response. 405 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Because you know what you're getting and you know the 406 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: ending of things. So if you are constantly like rewatching 407 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: the same shows as like your comfort Show, the reason 408 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: is like due to being overwhelmed or due to anxiety. 409 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: And so we're seeing potentially this rise in nostalgia and 410 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: nostalgia marketing to combat the overwhelm we already have from 411 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: online media. Then do you see where I'm going That 412 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: it's like a long circle that I'm like, it's. 413 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: A cycle that feeds into itself, like anything, you can 414 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: have too much of a good thing exactly, Yeah, because 415 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: I definitely fall into that, Like I love rewatching Comfort Show, 416 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: but then it gets to a point where you're like, 417 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: I need something fresh. 418 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: And I Also my thing is when you continue to 419 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: capitalize on nostalgia, when does the magic get lost? So, 420 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: for example, one of my favorite. 421 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: Nostalgic movies to watch is Practical Magic. 422 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: We have Practical Magic too coming out very soon, I 423 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: think in the next year. 424 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: I think it's coming out next year. That I'm very concerned. 425 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: And whilst I do trust Nicole Kidman and Sindra Bullock 426 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: with my life, if I see any mention of fucking 427 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: TikTok or a social media if there's like a spell. 428 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: Cast on Twitter, I'm gonna lose my shit. 429 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I want like, I want it to be no technology. 430 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: I don't care that it's set in modern day ignore 431 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: it right. Yeah, just if I say somebody like using 432 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: chat GPT to look up how to hex a man, 433 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: I'll be pissed. 434 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: If there's like any brain rot lingo within that movie, 435 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: I think I'll cry. Yeah, And that's the thing is, 436 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: like when this happened, you actually end up ruining the nostalgia. 437 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: Look at hocus Pocus two, Yeah. 438 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Like they fucked that so hard or even like all 439 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: of the Disney live action remakes. Like I think some 440 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: of the original ones were popular and had some positive 441 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 3: reviews from fans, but as they've continued, clearly people I 442 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: think people are over it exactly. What do you think 443 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: of the Hannah Montana twentieth anniversary being an interview special 444 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: and not a concert. Yeah, I mean pretty devastated, to 445 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: be honest. Is that dramatic? Probably? But Hannah Montana raised me, 446 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: So you created this monster. I think I nobody's perfect. 447 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: Everybody makes mistakes. 448 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: So true that you'll always. 449 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Find your way back home. 450 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: Let's just wrap it up. Let's just wrap it up here. 451 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: I could have kept going, like to climb, you always 452 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: find your way back home. We've always said a hare course. 453 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I'm glad that they haven't rebooted 454 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: it as a new TV show or even a movie 455 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: or something like that, because I think that that magic 456 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: is lightning in a bottle and you probably couldn't recreate it. 457 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 3: So I'm glad they're doing it as an interview style 458 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: show and that she will be performing some of the 459 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: songs and doing like a modern take on that. But god, 460 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: I would have loved to have gone to a concert. 461 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: Me too. 462 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 3: But I think that Miley is not in her touring. Yeah. Yeah, 463 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: she did talk about playing the super Bowl and how 464 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: that would look like a discog Wait, help me, discography? Yep? 465 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: Do I say that right? Yeah, how that would look 466 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: like a discography? That's it. 467 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: That word just doesn't that's right now, right, I think 468 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: coming out of my mouth, Miley did mention that if 469 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: she were to do the Super Bowl, it would be 470 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: like a celebration of all of her errors, if you will. 471 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just think we are now teetering on 472 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: this line of you're going to ruin it. Well, enter 473 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 3: nostalgia fatigue, yeah, which is kind of what we're seeing. 474 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: And we poled you chicks and asked if you feel 475 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: nostalgia fatigue. Thirty six percent of you said yes, twenty 476 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: four percent of you said no, and forty percent of 477 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: you didn't know what it was, which fair enough. So 478 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: nostalgia fatigue refers to the exhaustion that's caused by overexposure 479 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: to reminders of our sentimental past. And I was reading 480 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 3: an article published by Vice on nostalgia fatigue and they 481 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: posed two really interesting questions. The first, could it be 482 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: the audiences have finally had too much of a good thing? 483 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: And two, is this insistence on bringing back old media 484 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: television and film doing more harm than good for these 485 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 3: beloved franchises? Which I do kind of wonder. It's hard 486 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: to say because we're still so close to it, but 487 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: sometimes I do feel like it takes away from the 488 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: original magic of the media. Focus Pocus Too doesn't exist 489 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, well that's like toy story forward to me. 490 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: I like men in blacked that in my brain, like, yeah, 491 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: you don't exist rightfully, so and like what a waste 492 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: of money and energy for hardcore fans to do that. 493 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying every fan feels the same way. 494 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure some people loved her Focus Too, but I 495 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: would say the majority of people did anyone Did anyone. 496 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: Like Focus Pocus Too? 497 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than like seeing your favorite character is like 498 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: come back for like, wow, that was fun for like 499 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: two seconds exactly outside of that, yeah, come one now. No, 500 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: if you did, you're a fake fan. But yeah, because 501 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: that's the thing, like you were saying, it's a good 502 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: money maker for businesses because nostalgia is comforting and that's 503 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: what people go to. But then it's. 504 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: Like, I already consumer there. Yeah, that's the thing. 505 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: There's already a consumer there because fans already exist. So 506 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: it sees safe bets for media industries and entertainment industries 507 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: because they don't have to shoot the shot of a 508 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: new thing, which is why I have so much respect 509 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: for original movies like Sinners that come out with new storylines. 510 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: And the thing is with Sinners, everyone. 511 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: Was like sequel, Like do a sequel? That was so 512 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: good and ninety and I'm sent sure that. The creator 513 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: came out and he was like, no, yeah, I think 514 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: that was good. Doesn't need it? 515 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like thank you. I did really like it. I 516 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to do another one. 517 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: Maybe like extended a dish. Love that. But that's the 518 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: thing because we want the comfort. But part of that 519 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: is that we don't want it to change. We want 520 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: it to have the same magic. But then how can 521 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: they do that, especially if it's a reboot something that's 522 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: based in nostalgia, how can they recreate that in a 523 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: modern day or continue the story without changing something. So 524 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: it's like you're kind of destined to lose because either 525 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: it's the exact same thing and it's boring, or they 526 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: slightly change it and it's like, oh, well, I just 527 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: missed the old one. But I think that's where even 528 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: it comes back to love story that you were talking 529 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: about at start of the episode, because I saw a 530 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: teak top from a creator and I was like, fuck. 531 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: You hit the nail on the head with this one. 532 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: That The reason why Love Story feels so good and 533 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: to watch is because it feels like it was made 534 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: in the early two thousands. And his creator was like, 535 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to fucking hear shit about that. Technology 536 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: doesn't allow you to make it look like that anymore, 537 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: because like the film that they've used, the technology that 538 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: they've used, it looks like it could have been shot 539 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: in the same era as like How to Lose a 540 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: Guy in Ten Days, Like it has that same feel 541 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: to it that they've really mastered that the soundtrack is 542 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: all from the nineties, Like they've just done such a 543 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: good job of making it feel like the nineties. Yeah. 544 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: I think that's such an interesting take because it's like, 545 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: that's something that it's a nostalgic story, it's something that 546 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: happened in history. It's saying that a lot of people 547 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: are familiar with, but maybe because it hasn't been covered 548 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: in that same way and because they are tapping into 549 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: how it felt at the time to capture that nineties 550 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: magic that we're missing. Yeah, And the thing is, I 551 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: would one hundred percent say I am more likely to 552 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: spend money on something if it makes me film nostalgic. Hmmm, Yeah, 553 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: me too, Yeah, And I think that's the thing. There 554 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: are so many trends on social media and in marketing campaigns, 555 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: like some of the examples you mentioned before that do 556 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: play on that. Like, clearly this is a solid strategy. 557 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: Even Sabrina Carpenter's whole Sweetener tour and her whole aesthetic 558 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: like that is all pulling on references from the sixties 559 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: and seventies a lot of the time, And I don't 560 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: think that that's a coincidence that her surge and popularity 561 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: also aligns with that. Same as Zara Larson too. Ah, 562 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: Like if you look at you know what Sabrina Carpenter 563 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: and Zara Larson we're doing maybe five years ago in 564 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: comparison to now, and the aesthetics that they've really tapped into, 565 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: and how that aligns with their marketing from their music 566 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: videos to the album covers to the tours. They're very, 567 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: very nostalgic, whether it's from a time that we experienced 568 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: or not. I agree, But even saying that, it's so fun, 569 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: Like when you look at Zara Larson and Sabrina Carpenter 570 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: and a lot of these trends that are coming back, 571 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: it is fun. Yeah, I don't think the rise of 572 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: nostalgia is an inherently bad thing. I thoroughly enjoy it 573 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: and embrace it, and I think there are just ways 574 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: that we can ensure that we tap into it. That 575 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: doesn't mean where Like I was going to say, like 576 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 3: milk and the goat for all it's got, but I 577 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna get made fun of that, milking 578 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: the cow for all it's worth? I think, is is 579 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: that actually? Yeah, filking the goat for all it's got? 580 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: Actually don't mess it up? 581 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's is that? Actually? Think milking the cat for all? 582 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: I think? 583 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: So? Well, shit, yeah, add that to the coffee, add 584 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 3: that to the list. 585 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 586 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: I think that's so true. And I think that Hollywood 587 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: just needs to catch up with that a little bit. 588 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: I think that like, if you want to embrace nostalgia 589 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: more in your life, you don't really actually need brands 590 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: or the entertainment industry to get you there. I think 591 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: there are so many ways that you can embrace nostalgia 592 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: in everyday routine that won't cost you more money than 593 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: you already need. 594 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: To spend on it. Yeah, and true. 595 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 3: For example, like one way that I love to embrace 596 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 3: nostalgia is just even following accounts that are nostalgia focus 597 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: pages that like post photos of like a Betty spaghetti 598 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: or that I'm like, oh my god, I even forgot 599 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: I had that toy, or like even just fun movie 600 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: facts from movies that I really enjoyed that you can 601 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: learn more about listening to podcasts that are about like 602 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: the behind the scenes of your. 603 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: Favorite old movies or whatever those are. 604 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: That it doesn't necessarily need a sequel, a reboot, or 605 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: some twentieth anniversary merch For example, I don't think every 606 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 3: single anniversary of a franchise, a movie, a TV show 607 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: needs a collection. Soarreowski just released an anniversary collection for 608 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 3: Shrek for the twenty five years of Shrek, and as 609 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: much as I love Shrek, I don't need a one 610 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollar crystal. 611 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: Figurine of Shrek. 612 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: Who's buying that? I would love to know if you 613 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: bought the Swarowsky Shrek Figuring collection. 614 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 2: Sound off in the comments. 615 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: I think there are so many ways that you can 616 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: spend money and embrace nostalgia that actually has nothing to 617 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: do with. 618 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Buying new things or spending more money. 619 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: But it's also like if you like something and it 620 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: does kind of tick that box of a massive passion for. 621 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: You, then go for it. 622 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see that JJ's released a Hannah Montana 623 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: dressing gown? Yes, like the Hannah Montana robe. Yeah. Yeah, iconic, 624 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 3: so good, so good. Yeah. And I think that's the 625 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: thing because a lot of these a lot of these 626 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: revivals play on that fomo as well. So it's just knowing, 627 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: like what your genuine passions are and yeah, maybe tapping 628 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: into some of that nostalgia in ways that don't require 629 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: you to spend money, Like make your own playlist of 630 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: like so that you would have listened to on your 631 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: So Fresh CD, or that you would have watched on 632 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: RAGE or that were from your favorite movies. Or go 633 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: to the library and like feel like you're in a 634 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: nineties movie because you're borrowing a book instead of reading 635 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: it on your kindle. Like, those are some of the 636 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: ways that I like to sort of romanticize or do 637 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: things that yeah, maybe I would have done as a 638 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: kid or in the past, or you know, add some 639 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: friction into it. I think as well. That's why I 640 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: love collecting vinyls as well. It's like I could listen 641 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: to all of these on Spotify and I do. But 642 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 3: also every Sunday I put a Vinyl on and listen 643 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: to that, and that's part of my routine and it's 644 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: just like a really nice way to feel like I'm 645 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 3: kind of disconnecting, not using my phone on something. And 646 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: also when you do listen to vinyl, like the songs 647 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: do sound different. You can hear the layers of the 648 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: music differently than you can on a digital file, and 649 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: like that's the way that I like to do it. 650 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: You know, do you know what I think we should 651 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 3: bring back? Do you remember those like fashion and like beauty 652 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: games we used to play on the computer, like my scene. Yes, 653 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure some of those still exist. I think 654 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: that's exactly that. 655 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what I'm gonna do tonight. 656 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 3: But you would like, you know, get the little clicker 657 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: and you pick her eye shadow color the best, and 658 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: you do the whole thing, and then she'd like get 659 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: a quick little animation of her like going down the runway. 660 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: Loved that, yeah, and it'd be like click click, like 661 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: I absolutely love that. My scene amazing. The Brat's website 662 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: also incredible. I think there was like a pollypocket one 663 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: that also was really good. And I know you loved 664 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: this one too on the Disney website, the Stitch Sandwich 665 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: Stack again. Who remembers that? 666 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: And it was with experiments six to seven. 667 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: The yellow one, the yellow one, yeah, yeah, and different 668 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: ingredients would fall and make sandwhich as big as you 669 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: possibly could and you couldn't get also like rotten and 670 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 3: grad audience would come down, so like stinky cheese like 671 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: a fish. You're like, actually, let's add the blue cheese on. Yeah, 672 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: a mature palette, but let's bring those back. 673 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 674 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: I just think I started playing game with my. 675 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: Friend called bubble Witch. 676 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think like more just stupid little games 677 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: that like less scrolling and more things like that, Like 678 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 3: those were so fun. Yeah. I also had like this, 679 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: do you remember the game We're in the World as 680 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 3: Calm and San Diego. No. Oh, it was a great game. 681 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't very good at it though, because you had 682 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 3: to know geography. 683 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh that I love that. 684 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. And also she was like a spy and you 685 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: had to find Carmen san Diego and it would give 686 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: you clues being like she's gone to a world of 687 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 3: pyramids and sand with hieroglyphics and about what is that 688 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was five, but your mom's being 689 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 3: like trying to teach you about them. Yeah. So it's 690 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: like because all those games you played as a kid 691 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 3: were always also trying to teach you something. Totally where 692 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: on am my I scene being like pink, I think 693 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: it's taught us a lot. Okay, I love it. I 694 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: also love this other game called pot Put Saves a 695 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 3: Zoo and Freddie Fish Let's bring back old games one 696 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: hundred percent. I also do love how intentional things have become, 697 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: especially through you know, cameras and Kodak cameras and digital cameras. 698 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: I do like that resurgence and you know you only 699 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: need one like yeah, you only need one digital camera, 700 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: and you only need one Kodak camera. If it's a 701 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 3: digital one or whatever, you can replace the film as well. Yeah, 702 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 3: it does make actions more intentional. It's different than just 703 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 3: taking photos on your phone, because I always see those 704 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: in the comments and it's like, just take it on 705 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 3: your phone. 706 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's different. 707 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 3: It's different. Like to be able to hold a physical 708 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 3: photo is so special. Yeah, and be able to put 709 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: that in a memory box or in a photo album, 710 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: because that is a nostalgic act that we have lost 711 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: the habit of and definitely something that I think we 712 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 3: need to hold on to, because yes, you can take 713 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 3: so many more photos and you can have an even 714 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 3: more extensive gallery on your phone, but like what happens 715 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: if you lose your phone or like you know, something 716 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 3: happens and you lose access to those digital files. Yeah, 717 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: Nostalgia is inherently a good thing. Nostalgia is something that 718 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 3: shows you that your life has been fun and sparkly 719 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 3: and beautiful and amazing and how wonderful is that. Nostalgia 720 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: is just not a marketing tool that should manipulate you. 721 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: Into spending money. 722 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: And I think knowing that that is a bit of 723 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 3: a marketing trend at the moment also just equips you 724 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: with the knowledge to be like, Hmmm, do I need 725 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: a one thousand dollars crystal Shrek figurine? Probably not? Do 726 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: I want to watch Shrek this weekend? Yes? I do. 727 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: And that's that's good nostalgia versus bad nostalgia. Yeah, I 728 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: like that. That's a solid distinction. Ye. Well, on that note, 729 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 3: that's a rap. 730 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 2: What are we going to wash this weekend? 731 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 3: I know I'm locked in? Yeah, let us know in 732 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: the comments. What do you like to do to tap 733 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: into your good nostalgia? Oh yeah, because I want some more, 734 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 3: some more ideas. All right, love your chicks, We'll catch 735 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: you on Thursday. For Favorites, Monthy Favorite, Yay March Favorite, 736 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: Bye bye chicks,