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Speaker 1: I get a team. Welcome to another installment that you

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Speaker 1: projector taps. It's jumbo, it's me, it's it's well. It's

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Speaker 1: an interesting collective. I have here today because we are

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Speaker 1: operating at a sixty six point sixty six recurring percentage

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Speaker 1: of TIFFs. There's three people in the show. Two of

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Speaker 1: them are called Tiff. I'm feeling outnumbered. I'm feeling marginalized.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to Tiff with two e's. You'd be happy

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Speaker 1: as a pig in shit, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: You're out tifted, You're out Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I am definitely out tifted now before we go to

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Speaker 1: our guest. The actual the reason we're here not that

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Speaker 1: you're not important. TC.

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Speaker 2: I you.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to you yesterday and one of my

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Speaker 1: mates says this expression, flatter than a shit Carter's hat.

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Speaker 1: Now you sounded listener, TIFs She's like, Tiff Fall's like,

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Speaker 1: oh fuck, they listen to how they talk on the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is nothing. This is not Channel ten. FU.

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Speaker 1: You need to say at least one fuck today, Tift.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't. Otherwise you don't get your typ tick.

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Speaker 1: So you were flat yesterday, TIF cook, what is going on?

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Speaker 3: I was You know those days where you're just tired

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Speaker 3: and you're a bit miserable and you just want to

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Speaker 3: There are those days where actually the best thing would

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Speaker 3: be to get out and be around people, but the

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Speaker 3: hardest thing to do is get out and be around

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Speaker 3: people because you feel like a misery gut. So that

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Speaker 3: was me yesterday, dragging myself around going come on, TIF

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Speaker 3: make a good decision.

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Speaker 1: Well, so if yesterday were what were you? What were

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Speaker 1: you out of ten emotionally and mentally yesterday? Give yourself

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Speaker 1: a score maybe three? And what do you reckon? You

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Speaker 3: I reckon I'm on the upward and I'm rocketing to

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Speaker 3: a solid seven and getting better as the day goes on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I to talk about this, but let's introduce our

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Speaker 1: actual guest, Tip All. Hi, tiff Aall, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: You Project.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm bloody super excited because you're a big deal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know which T shirt to wear? Do I

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Speaker 1: wear the black one with Lonsdale? Do you wear?

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Speaker 2: Oh You're funny?

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Speaker 1: No one with everlast? I mean, fuck, I was holding

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Speaker 1: up T shirts standing in front of the mirror.

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Speaker 2: Look gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: You look. Thank you fucking liar Pants on fire Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: It's Tiff Pants on fire Hall. Now everyone knows who

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Speaker 1: you are you of course, Well, you're an athlete, you're

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Speaker 1: still an athlete. You're a presenter, a journalist, you're an author,

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Speaker 1: you're a mum, you're a wife, you're an ex gladiator,

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Speaker 1: you're a host. Like your busy as fuck, I think

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Speaker 1: in science. So thanks for taking an hour out of

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Speaker 1: the busyness. What are you doing today? What's taking other

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Speaker 1: than this? What's taken your attention today?

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Speaker 2: Run a business? So it was a meeting with our CEO,

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Speaker 2: and I did some training this morning and that's pretty

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Speaker 2: much where I've got to But yeah, the business does

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I'd like to put you two in an octagon,

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Speaker 1: not a boxing ring, because well, TIFFs a boxer and

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Speaker 1: you're a fucking fifteenth dan black belt in is it taekwondo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Taekwondo? Yeah yeah, So I would.

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Speaker 1: Like to just lock that cage, shut, stand, get myself,

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Speaker 1: I get myself a protein drink, jump in a bean.

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Speaker 2: Bag, and I don't think what would do any good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Although I have seen some UFC fighters

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Speaker 2: use the taekwondo very efficiently. They're kicks and things, but

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Speaker 2: I think a boxer would win.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, once you kick her in the head.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you've got to get that kick and

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Speaker 2: you've got to have the distance, right. Oh, it's tough.

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Speaker 1: Well, arguably arguably the biggest UFC personality in the world,

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Speaker 1: of course, Joe Rogan. He's a very famous taekwondo black

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good foundation. It is actually a really

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Speaker 1: of course we've had Lauren Burns on my Yes love laws.

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Speaker 2: My dad goes straight at the Olympics, so really yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's like part of the family. Yeah, I love her.

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Speaker 1: She's a fucking gun and also a brain yak too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, isn't she? Oh, she's the best.

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Speaker 1: You go, okay yourself. So what's taekwondo?

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Speaker 2: So, taekwondo is a Korean martial art, whereas karate is

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Speaker 1: But do you see like you do a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: I am at my heart. It's such a good question,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but now it's like you have almost this synthesis

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very much so. And now that I run

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Speaker 2: But my husband said to me, it's like you've been

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Speaker 2: I'm at that time in my life where every athlete

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Speaker 1: Know, how long are those videos?

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Speaker 2: Tips they can be anything from five to twenty minutes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So and I do take breaks and think forty a

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Speaker 2: the nervous system. And I do crash afterwards. It's very hard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, this is my you know event now, and

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Speaker 2: It's really really hard. It's really it's getting harder. And

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Speaker 1: then lady you're like, what the fuck am I doing

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00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: on the top of this mountain? Or do you know

430
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: when you know, it's like you've written books, You've done

431
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: all this awesome shit, a million viewers, and I biggest loser,

432
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: fucking farc everyone from the outside looking in, it's Disneyland.

433
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But I know and you know that when

434
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of what appears to be a

435
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: super success story, it doesn't always feel that way, right,

436
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: Like there's the there's the the appearance of success, and

437
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: then there's the experience. Yes, about that for you, like

438
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: do you feel like are you ever satisfied? Are you calm?

439
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Are you content? Are you insatiable? Like with all this shit?

440
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: How do you navigate that emotional stuff within within? You know?

441
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: Like this, but I reckon, I know, I definitely know

442
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of wealthy, successful, high profile people who

443
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: are more anxious, more depressed, and more medicated than that

444
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: vert Ofcomma's typical normal people that I know, yeah about

445
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: a bit.

446
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Speaker 2: Well, I think the experience. I think in my twenties,

447
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: when I was on TV and I was writing What's

448
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: of books and I was always looking for the next

449
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: thing and it was all about profile, I definitely was

450
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: insatiable and it was always the next thing, the next thing,

451
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: what's next, What's next? And I wasn't really happy when

452
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: I had kids. I had to slow down and I

453
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: had to prioritize, and it just taught me that I

454
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: couldn't have it all, not at one time. And now

455
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: I only have two things I focus on. It's the

456
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: business and the kids, and that's it. And I don't

457
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: want to do television ever again. I don't want those

458
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: intense months and periods of time where you have to

459
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: give up your life and just do that, and you

460
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: know there's no balance, and you know, TV is intense.

461
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: And I'd start at five am and I'd finish sometimes

462
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: at nine or ten at night, and that would go

463
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: for seven days and there was pressure of weigh ins

464
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff, and you know, it wasn't normal,

465
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: and then it finishes and it was like, oh now

466
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: what like was? I felt lost? But I don't feel

467
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: that now because I think with social media, with the

468
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: way my business runs, it's all about connection to women.

469
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: And I get contacted all day, DMS, emails for our

470
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: help desk, Facebook community group. People are always chatting to me,

471
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: and I feel very much part of this safe space

472
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: and this nice little tribe and cult where we can,

473
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: and you know, just try and be better together and

474
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: feel well and do things that make us feel good.

475
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: And I feel like I'm taking them along the ride

476
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: with me through bad days and good days. And as

477
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: long as I keep honest with the conversation and you know,

478
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: really honest and I am about my bad days, then

479
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: it kind of it's healthier for me than trying to

480
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: be perfect and you know, a certain body fat percentage,

481
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 2: and you know, on tally, I try and really keep

482
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: it real. And that's been saving grace these past few

483
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: years for me, because if it's just too hard to

484
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: try and keep your Instagram curated and perfect and you know,

485
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: and have that be the perception for people, I like

486
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: to try and keep it more real and that I'm

487
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: just juggling everything as a mum like anyone else, and

488
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: that I just did some TV back in the day.

489
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Speaker 2: My husband still does television, he does radio. He's very

490
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: comfortable in that space. He loves it. But I couldn't

491
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: think of anything worse. Let him do it.

492
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big he's a big funny bastard. Yes,

493
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: if you listen to this, you're a big funny bastard.

494
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: I have a man crush on you. But anyway, you

495
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: probably have a lot of those. You know. It's interesting

496
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Tiff and Tiff once again, everyone, it's a two third

497
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: tip ratio. Today. I feel very fucking I feel like

498
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: a minority on my own show because I am Tiff Cook.

499
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Feel free to jump in. I was chatting yesterday. It's

500
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: not up. By the time this goes up, it might

501
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: be up. With Josh Lenardowitz, the bodybuilder. You know him big?

502
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I will, okay.

503
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: So Big Josh is Big. Josh is arguably Australia's best

504
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: ever bodybuilder. One.

505
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: He's really handsome, yeah.

506
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Real good looking.

507
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah I do you know him? Yeah?

508
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so not me? Yeah. So he competed twice in

509
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: the Mister Olympia all this stuff, and anyway, he's been

510
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: through some shit lately and dealing with a couple of

511
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: health issues. This is documented. He had a like a

512
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: tumor inside his skull, a bone tumor, so not a

513
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: brain tumor, but so it was benign, but it was anyway,

514
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: there was a few. Anyway, he's been battling some shit.

515
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: But we were talking about which is why I was

516
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: in to talk to Tiff Cook at the start about

517
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: just having bad days. And we were chatting and he

518
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: wasn't having a great day, and we had this podcast book,

519
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: and I said, good, let's have a chat on a

520
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: day that's not great, because guess what, lots of people

521
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: have lots of shit days, and we don't all need

522
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: to be love and light and unicorns and pumping our

523
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: fists and winning every day. It's like, the practical reality

524
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: is that life service. Life's a bitch and sometimes like

525
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: beautiful and amazing, and you know, we're just all trying

526
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: to figure shit out. But something that you talking about

527
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: being on Gladiators and we were talking about the idea

528
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: of standing on a stage tip, especially in twenty twenty four,

529
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: when the overriding messages, hey, it doesn't matter what you

530
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: look like. Yes, then you go stand on a bodybuilding

531
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: stage and that's all that matters.

532
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Are you being judged, Yeah, like.

533
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: You're literally being judged, not metaphorically.

534
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: Yes.

535
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Yes, And I guess I don't know, did you. I'm

536
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: assuming and my assumption could be wrong, but I'm assuming

537
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: that as Angel the Gladiator, you needed to look a

538
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: certain way or you would get the ass.

539
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: It was a real problem because I was very small

540
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: and the smallest gladiating history in the world, according to

541
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: all the the big fans that have all the gladiators

542
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: statistics and things. I'm only one hundred and sixty four

543
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: centimeters five foot four and I was under fifty five

544
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: kilos so light. I couldn't even see over the gauntlet

545
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: like and I couldn't even get up the pyramid because

546
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: I was so short. So they put me in the

547
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: on the aerial games up in the sky. I did

548
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: hang tough and pendulum and all the aerial games, and

549
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: it was very good at that because I could break

550
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: fall with all my martial arts experience, I could look

551
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: after the competitors and they never got hurt. And I

552
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: love the aerial games. But they said, okay, if you

553
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: can't when we don't have time to bulk you up,

554
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: because I wasn't a bulky big person, but they wanted

555
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: to lean me up, so I had to lose more

556
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: weight in order to have more definition in order to

557
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: look bigger on camera, because camera does make you look

558
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: a bit bigger, and that to me was a bit hard.

559
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: So I was on a diet and they Channel seven

560
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: provided the food. It was like just fish and vegge

561
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: and very dangerous. And I remember getting into that disordered

562
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: eating kind of mentality where I was only eating what

563
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: Channel seven gave me. I was super scared to eat

564
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: anything outside of the little plastic containers they gave gave me.

565
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: I was very underweight, I think, especially for a contact

566
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: sport like it's contact. I was getting hurt and breaking

567
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: ribs and stuff like that easily, when usually with a

568
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: bit more padding in taekwondo and stuff. I never experienced that.

569
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: So it was very tough and I just didn't have

570
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: the time to build the muscle, you know, it takes

571
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: a long time. And this was TV. Everything has to

572
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: happen yesterday, and so I just went on this diet

573
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: and I looked shredded. I had abs on abs and

574
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: veins in abs, and like I did get shredded. But yeah,

575
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: I was just too light for it. Crazy times.

576
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: It's so funny because like, as an athlete, it is

577
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: all about performance and function. Yes, like what you look

578
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: like is irrelevant. I mean, you're probably going to look

579
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: pretty good if you're an athlete anyway, but that's not

580
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: the point. Like it's all about performance, it's about functional physiology.

581
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: It's about can you do what you need? It's about strength, power, speed, agility,

582
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: coordination for you skill of course, but then they're not

583
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: worried about that, they're worried about what you look like. Yeah,

584
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: it's so fucking ridiculous.

585
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. And we weren't playing on the games

586
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: and we didn't have access to them, so we had

587
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: to train. I trained on monkey bars for Hang Tough

588
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: because I thought, well, that makes sense. I'll get my

589
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: hang strength and like my grip's strength going. And I

590
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 2: was just trying to work it out myself. And then

591
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: on the day, literally audience TV cameras rolling, first time

592
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: trying the games myself. Oh it was a mental time.

593
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: It was really mental. And I was young and I was,

594
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, in my early twenties and impressionable and really

595
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: struggled coming off gladiators, thinking I had to maintain that look,

596
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: you know, I was a gladiator, should look like a gladiator.

597
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: When I went back to being a healthy wait healthy

598
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: for running and puck wandoing and doing all the things

599
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: that I loved doing strength training, and yeah I did,

600
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: I struggled with that kind of body image stuff, you know.

601
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until like I met my husband, and

602
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of was like snap out of it,

603
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: like that's not you weren't actually performing and at your

604
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: peak of fitness and strength back then, you were weak,

605
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, because you were under eating, you know, so

606
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: you got to have a stern word with yourself. Sometimes

607
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: it's very.

608
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Hard just out of interest.

609
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Oh six ' five, Yeah, we look ridiculous together.

610
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: That's well. I hope you got some serious bug and

611
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: high heels.

612
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.

613
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever work out together? Do you train together?

614
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: No, we have a rule we're not allowed to because

615
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: I end up trying to coach him or saying he

616
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: can do one more set, or like you can live

617
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: heavier than that, or giving him a technique tip or

618
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: something like that and he corracs it. But he's very good.

619
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: He actually has his personal training qualification. He did that

620
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: early on. He's very proficient in the gym. He will

621
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: take my advice. But we don't train together. We just

622
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: get a little bit, I get under his skin. I

623
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: just like try and make him do something better or

624
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: showing him something new, or he just doesn't want to

625
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: hear it. So you know, we have separate gym memberships

626
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: are different gyms.

627
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh really, that's hilarious. That is hilarious.

628
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that hardcore.

629
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Do you have a parenting style in Inverted Commas that

630
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: you could describe as a freestyle? Is it strategic? Is

631
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: it organic? Do you? Is it something you developed? Like

632
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: do you attention to any of the experts in Inverted Commas?

633
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: I do pay attention to I like Maggie Denton Connected Parenting,

634
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: and I do pay attention and I feel like I

635
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: need to learn. I really do. It's something that's developing.

636
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't prescribe to a type of parenting, although I

637
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: do like routine, and I think routine gives my children safety.

638
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: They know what's coming next, and like they have a

639
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: time that they go and have a nap, and they

640
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: have a dinner time and a bath time those kind

641
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: of simple things and a bedtime And it's not like

642
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: I just let them be up all night and they'll

643
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: tell me when they're tired and go to bed. I

644
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: do have a routine with them, but I don't know.

645
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: I am just learning. I mean, my youngest is one,

646
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Arnold is six, and I feel like I'm failing on

647
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: a daily basis with them. Our family pet died our

648
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: dog yesterday. Talk about bad days, Yeah, very bad. He

649
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: had terminal cancer. We had to put him down, so

650
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: very tough. But that's where I was challenged because the

651
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: kids were so upset and I had to deal with

652
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: that and explain about let you going over the rainbow

653
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: bridge to pet paradise and where he was going to

654
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: be happy and maybe come back. You know, he was

655
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: ready as another puppy or something. And it was just

656
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: all really hard thinking, oh gosh, are we religious? Do

657
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: I bring in religion? Or do I is this heaven?

658
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Or like what do I It was really hard in

659
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: managing trying to coregulate Arnold's emotions, and there was heavy

660
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: sadness and heavy topics I just and also the thing

661
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 2: of do I let him say goodbye to the dog

662
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: before we put him down? Or do we put him

663
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: down and then say the dog has gone over the

664
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: rainbow bridge? Do you know what I mean? Like, all

665
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: those decisions are really hard. I did let Arnold have

666
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: make the choice would you like to say goodbye to Fletcher?

667
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: And he did. He went and gave him a pat

668
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: and a kiss and a cuddle and they had to play.

669
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: And I think that was healthy for Arnold, But I

670
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if I'm stuffing him up

671
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: every day. I honestly don't. It's the hardest gig in

672
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: the world.

673
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're doing a brilliant job.

674
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

675
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: If that just hit you, didn't it typical?

676
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yes, yeah, jes a dog.

677
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: We're kind of dogaholics here.

678
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you understand because I never know. It's such

679
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: I've felt flat, all weak, like like you tif, like,

680
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: just really not performing. I had to cancel a few

681
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: things I had. I have just it really knocked me,

682
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: could not stop crying. Terrible when you have to make

683
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: the decision whether they live or die. As well, and

684
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: he was very ill and we had amputated his leg,

685
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: so he was on three legs to try and get

686
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: the tumor off and save him. But he and we

687
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: went through the trauma of amputating his leg and then

688
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: he died. Anyway, it's really sad. It's horrible. You just think,

689
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: did I make the right decision? And every days like that,

690
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: I think with kids, you just think I did I

691
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Did I fuck that up? You know, honestly, And there's

692
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: my f word for the day, Did I fuck that up?

693
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: Because honestly it is. I go to bed most nights

694
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: thinking geez, I did not nail today as a parent.

695
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: And it's the biggest load I think, mental load.

696
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: How long ago tiff Cook was did coach pass away?

697
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: It's two years now?

698
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, because that feels like I don't know, four months.

699
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: I know it's not it feels like four months ago.

700
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: It feels really recent. It's crazy.

701
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't get easy, does it? And no, it

702
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: hangs around like, yeah, because Arnold was asking me today

703
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: on the way to school, when will I feel better?

704
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, not for a while. And it's

705
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: a process. There's a process to grief. And you know,

706
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: we're in the crying tiery, can't talk stage.

707
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: You know.

708
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think like nobody's really trained for parenthood, are they.

709
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: It's like when you do anything for the first time,

710
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: whether it's go on gladiators, start a business, write a book,

711
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: become a parent, go do a degree, like you just

712
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, of course people can advise you, but you

713
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: can only really really learn experientially in the middle of it.

714
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: Like, yes, you're going to funk some.

715
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: Things up, You're going to get some things right, you

716
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: know you're going to have a slightly different approach with

717
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: number two than you did with numbers.

718
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, it's really hard. And I couldn't believe

719
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: that I had a baby. And then they said at

720
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: the hospital, okay, off you go home. I was like,

721
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: are we going to do a class? Are we going

722
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: to have like give me notes? Because I love notes,

723
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: I love studying, Like, give me some notes. I don't

724
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: know what to do with this baby. And then you know,

725
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: we're struggling. How do you get a newborn to sleep?

726
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: That was that really did me in. It just that

727
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: was such a hard time, you know, and they do

728
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: eventually sleep, but learning beating and breastfeeding and all of

729
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: that stuff, like it was it was pretty hardcore, Like, yeah,

730
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: really need a manual for a baby.

731
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going to ask you a few philosophical questions. Okay,

732
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: we'll see where we go. So you are forty on

733
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: July the eleventh, just off the top of my head.

734
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, not really off the.

735
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: Top of my head. I've got notes. So one day

736
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: you're going to be forty five if everything goes great

737
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: on Planet TIF, what will life look like when you're

738
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: forty five. What do you think if everything goes according

739
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: to plan and you're winning life, what will you be

740
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: doing when you're forty five?

741
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: Do you think forty five, I would love to still

742
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: be doing the business. But business is hard, and I've

743
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: had a few components of the business not work, and

744
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: like I had an active wear line for example, that

745
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: I just could not keep going with and it pulled

746
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: my focus from the fitness stuff. And you know, I've

747
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: had a few hard times with business. It would be

748
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: really nice if at forty five I could be earning

749
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: a living for my business and be really happy just

750
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: doing that. And my goal is to earn enough to

751
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: relieve the pressure of my husband who has that. You know,

752
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: he's very grateful for his TV and radio work, but

753
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: it is contract to contract work, and he can have

754
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: everything this year and on the first of January next

755
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: year have nothing, and then financially, what do you do?

756
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: What do you do? So I would love to say, hey, baby,

757
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: it's okay, don't stress, I've got this. You know, I

758
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: would love for the business to prosper enough for Ed

759
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: to just chill and do his passion projects. You know,

760
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: at the moment it's not at that level. But that's

761
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: what I would love in the next five years. Yeah,

762
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: good for you.

763
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: It's a grind, that's for sure.

764
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: It's a grind, all right.

765
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Next question, what is something significant, tiv Hall that you

766
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: have changed your mind on. It could be in the

767
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: last six months or in the last ten years, or

768
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: a belief that you have that got challenged and now

769
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: you have a new belief. There's something that did a

770
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: one at on.

771
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: I came from taekwondo and it was all about speed,

772
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: and I always did like lightweights and I never touched

773
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: the heavy weights. And then I think that in my

774
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: twenties I was a cardio bunny as well, and I

775
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: have just changed my attitude on the power of strength training.

776
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: Odd yeah, And how transformative it is for your hormones,

777
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: for your metabolism, for your body, for your mind. It's

778
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: something that you don't have to rely on your mood.

779
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Like cardio, you go, I feel great, I'm going to

780
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: go for a run, but when you feel flat, you

781
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: don't really feel like doing cardio, and then you blow

782
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: off cardio. But I feel with weight training you can

783
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: do it no matter how you feel. I just I always,

784
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: I never never really believed in the strength training enough

785
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: to do it, but now I since having injuries, it

786
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: is the most important thing that I'm doing. And especially

787
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: because I'm going to hit perimenopause and move into menopause

788
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: territory over the next ten to fifteen years, I'm trying

789
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: to train for that and build strong muscles that are

790
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: you know, fat factories, and you know, just really work

791
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 2: hard for my body and look after it, especially because

792
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: I've got arthritis in my knees. You know, I'm really

793
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: trying to build muscles around my knees to hold them up.

794
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Vm O fastest, absolutely, so you know what, I love.

795
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Fat fat factories. Like people don't understand having more muscle

796
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: lean in listeners, Having more muscle helps you burn more

797
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: fat at rest because muscles what we call metabolically active,

798
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: which helps you stay lean. So one, you're improving bone

799
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: density and cognitive function and functional strength and movement and capability,

800
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: but also lifting weights, which doesn't seem like but it

801
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: actually helps you stay lean, which is fucking amazing. I'm

802
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: super proud of you for lifting heavy shit. Well done.

803
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying. I don't live very heavy, but I try.

804
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. Okay, I'll tell you who's pretty strong.

805
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: The other tip, she's a fucking unit.

806
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she also girl girl power.

807
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: She got me covered. But that's not hard. I'm a hundred.

808
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: So here's my next somewhat philosophical question. Have you had

809
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have or maybe you haven't, but in

810
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: your life like a almost like an epiphany moment, I reckon,

811
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: I've had in my life for maybe like moments where

812
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: I went oh fuck, like like somebody pulled back a

813
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: curtain and I just had this revelation or this recognition

814
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: of something that I needed to know or be made

815
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: aware of or change. Have you had any epiphany moments

816
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: over your almost forty years?

817
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. So in two thousand and nineteen to twenty twenty,

818
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: through COVID and all that, I got burnt out. But

819
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: I was clinically diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, which felt

820
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: to me like a life sentence because they're like there's

821
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: no cure, like just that's it's the end of you.

822
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hang on a minute. I do fitness

823
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: stuff like I need to move an exercise, and they said, no, no, no,

824
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: that's the worst thing you can do for your condition.

825
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: And so I came out publicly and said, I've got

826
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: this chronic fatigue thing. I can't work. The business is

827
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: going down the toilet, and I need to recover. I

828
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: don't know how I'm going to do it, and I

829
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: don't know when I'll be back, but I'm going to

830
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: go do it. And it was a big moment in

831
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: my life where I had to stop. I was doing

832
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: too much and I had to really look at recovery.

833
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: I had to really look at my mental health. I

834
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: had to really look at the way I was doing stuff,

835
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: and it was pulling back to bare necessity and basics

836
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: and the basic stuff of drinking water, sunlight. Like I

837
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: was so fatigued, I couldn't even walk to my mailbox,

838
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: you know. And I would just stand with my feet

839
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: in grass, trying to just ground myself and get some sunlight.

840
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: And I had a trainer who would physically move my

841
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: body into a stretch position, and I remember being moved

842
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: into like this thoracic kind of stretch and just be

843
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: sitting there in the sunshine, going, oh my god, my

844
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: life is over. And they test you for depression and

845
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: your heart and all this stuff, and nothing came up.

846
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: It was just my nervous system had gone. I've had enough.

847
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: And I learned so much about nervous system back then,

848
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: and I think that that is everything. Now I don't train.

849
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: I don't train my nervous system anymore, you know, with

850
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: sprint training and cardio and high intensity and big volume

851
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: days and things like that I don't go back to

852
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: back with filming days and things like that. I've put

853
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: rest days in between now and I make sure that

854
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: my sympathetic nervous system is stimulated all the time, and

855
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: you know, I make sure that the vegas nerve is stimulated.

856
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: And I just I just really am looking after myself

857
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: because you can't pall from an empty cup. But I

858
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: was pouring from an empty cup for a long time.

859
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: And that's not health and fitness, and that's not being healthy,

860
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: and that's not what I need to help other people do.

861
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: So it was a huge moment and it took me. Well.

862
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: I think I'm still recovering, to be honest, I still

863
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: can't do the exercise and train at the capacity that

864
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: I did before I had that nervous system breakdown. I reckon,

865
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: I'll call it. I still can't. I have to have

866
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: rest days. I have to go to bed early. I

867
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: still have to do things that I've never recovered from it,

868
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: but I am still very functional now. But it was

869
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: definitely a moment where it was like, if you keep going,

870
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: you seriously are not going to ever be able to

871
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: walk like it was. It was so bad, It was

872
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: really really bad.

873
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Look, I think for people, I think

874
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: probably all three of us on this particular episode, you know,

875
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: there's have a propensity to overdo shit. There's fucking oh,

876
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: there's a revelation, you know, like there's a fine line

877
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: between discipline and obsession. Yes, you know, discipline is in control,

878
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: obsession is out of control. And you know, you know,

879
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I was you know whatever,

880
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: fat fourteen year old, all that bullshit. But I ended

881
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: up starting to train, and when I trained, all of

882
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, life got amazingly better, you know, like socially, emotionally, mentally, physically.

883
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: And then you get all this approval and all this

884
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: recognition and all this acceptance because you're not the fat

885
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: kid anymore. You're the athlete now, and all of this

886
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: great shit happens. And then so that's like a drug.

887
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: So I went, well, if X is good, then two

888
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: x's fucking twice as good, and five X must be incredible.

889
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: So I'm doing five X and then you know there's

890
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: no logic in that, but there's kind of just this

891
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: emotional kind of story. And yeah, i'd same. I just

892
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: got to the point when I opened my first PT

893
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: center tip, which was in nineteen ninety when you were six.

894
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: That's annoying anyway, When when I opened my first one,

895
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: there was none right, there was none in Australia, and

896
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: I had no staff. It was just me. So I

897
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: had this fifteen hundred hundred and fifty fifteen hundred foot

898
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: square space. I spent all the money in the world

899
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that I had, all of the money in the world.

900
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: I sold everything that I could sell I got, took

901
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: all the money out of my bank account except two

902
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, and I basically created a small commercial gym.

903
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: But it was only for me and my client anyway,

904
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: the first week that I opened, because I already had

905
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: a business, but I was based in I was based

906
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: in public gyms, training my clients. But the first week

907
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: I opened, I did over sixty hours of PT. But

908
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: then on top of that, you know, I'm cleaning the gym.

909
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm changing your running a business.

910
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fucking do admin. I don't know what

911
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: admin is. I'm trying to you know. And then anyway,

912
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: so I was, you know, within the first four weeks,

913
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: I was completely fucked because I was working eighty nine

914
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: hours a week and getting getting to the gym at

915
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: four am and cleaning and and I just I got

916
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: to this point where I thought I'm going to have

917
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: a breakdown, and my training was going backwards, and I thought,

918
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to so I in a rare

919
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: moment of clarity and logic, I said, right, I'm going

920
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to train Monday, Wednesday, Friday for three months. So I'm

921
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: going to go from seven days to three days. And

922
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, I know that I'll go backwards,

923
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: but I won't go too far backwards. And that will

924
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: that means I'll be you know, I won't be overtrained,

925
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: i won't be under recovered, i won't be so exhausted.

926
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm just going to focus on my business and my clients,

927
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: building knowledge, skills, all that shit, and just do three

928
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: workouts a week and whatever will happen will happen. Fuck it,

929
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I'll cope. Yeah, and of course you know what I'm

930
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: going to say. And over three months, I got bigger

931
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: and stronger, like a motherfucker because I was having four

932
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: days a week of recovery and my body loved it

933
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: because I had zero days. I went from no recovery

934
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: to all the recovery and even though mentally and emotionally

935
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: I hated it, you know. So there is that real

936
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: I think for people especially who are the type one perfectionist,

937
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, like to That's why I reckon it is

938
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: good to have a trainer or a coach or a

939
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: mentor that that isn't you, because it's hard for you

940
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: to be objective about you because you're tiff you know.

941
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: So it's that subjective thing, all right. So one more question.

942
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: It's a two part question to finish. So one is

943
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: what is your superpower? Don't overthink it? First thing that

944
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: comes to mind? What is your superpower? And part B

945
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: is what is something that you need to get better at?

946
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: Superpower is I think I really am able to relate

947
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: to women and women they meet me in the street

948
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: and I get the whole life story and it's like

949
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: we've known each other for ten years. But I've met

950
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: her for ten seconds and there's a nice trust and

951
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: I think I really value that and I love that

952
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: and I think in connected to women in that way

953
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: is something that I really cherish. So that's that's part one.

954
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: I think something I need to get better at. I

955
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: think I still need to get better at listening to

956
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: my body, because, like you said, I just will push

957
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: and push and push until there's nothing left. And I'm

958
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: still learning to pull myself up and still learning to say, hey,

959
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: if you crush, then nothing that doesn't help your family,

960
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: that doesn't help your business. You know. I'm I'm I

961
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: just I just have to listen to myself because I

962
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: am my worst enemy.

963
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: I think, well, I hope you listen to that body

964
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: because it's smarter than you, just like my body smarter

965
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: than me. Tiffany Elizabeth Hall. Tell people how they can

966
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: how they can find you, follow you, connect with you

967
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: and buy your books and all that.

968
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, connect with me on Instagram at tiff Hall

969
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Underscore XO. My website is mytech dot com. I'll keep

970
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: it simple and just leave it at that, and I

971
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: just DM me, reach out to me. You'll find a way.

972
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: Just there. I'm everywhere, Facebook, Twitter and anything, but I'm

973
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: predominantly on Instagram. So just DM me and I'd love

974
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: to hear your questions or yeah, just have a chat.

975
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you. I know

976
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: you're a very, very busy person and this is quite

977
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: a chunk of time out of your day and I'm.

978
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: Very I've enjoyed it. Thank you so much for having me.