WEBVTT - Da Rulk, Functional training expert 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Appoloche Production. 0:00:10.801 --> 0:00:14.521 Welcome to another episode of Brave Always the CEO series. 0:00:14.721 --> 0:00:18.521 This series, we launch into the new world of brave leadership. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.520 Happy people create happy businesses, true. 0:00:21.241 --> 0:00:23.001 Emotionally intelligent leadership. 0:00:23.041 --> 0:00:25.441 I've picked up vomit once on our about our fourth flight, 0:00:25.681 --> 0:00:27.601 and everybody thought, well, if it's good enough for him, 0:00:27.721 --> 0:00:28.200 I can do it. 0:00:28.241 --> 0:00:28.441 Now. 0:00:28.521 --> 0:00:31.121 We will be joined by culture and leadership. 0:00:30.721 --> 0:00:35.121 Experts and some superstar CEOs who will courageously tell us 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.920 the truth behind their brave leadership journeys. Today I am 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.161 joined by the amazing and one of my favorite, d Rook. 0:00:42.361 --> 0:00:43.641 Functional training expert. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:49.841 D'arrook trains superheroes, Navy seals, firefighters, law enforcement, and Chris Hemsworth, 0:00:50.161 --> 0:00:53.321 a certified strength and Conditioning specialist with a Bachelor of 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.721 Science and Kinesiology. He is the creator of Raw Functional 0:00:56.721 --> 0:00:59.840 Training RFT, a revolutionary approach to movement. 0:01:00.001 --> 0:01:01.601 Welcome Rourke, how are you doing? 0:01:01.921 --> 0:01:03.441 You know, it's so nice to see you. It's been 0:01:03.441 --> 0:01:05.041 a while. It's been a couple of years actually. 0:01:05.121 --> 0:01:08.801 Later for people who don't know Rooke, obviously a lot 0:01:08.801 --> 0:01:10.481 of people in Stratium might know you from the Center 0:01:10.521 --> 0:01:12.241 app because I feel like that's something they might have 0:01:12.241 --> 0:01:14.401 seen you a lot on and I can tell people 0:01:14.441 --> 0:01:15.401 firsthand if you haven't done it. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.761 Rook's pretty. He's frightening on the center. App he's not 0:01:17.801 --> 0:01:18.681 so frightening in personally. 0:01:19.081 --> 0:01:21.560 When I read these comments about you and people are like, 0:01:21.601 --> 0:01:22.601 oh my god, he killed me. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.121 He's so hardcore, I'm like, he's a teddy bear. 0:01:26.481 --> 0:01:29.441 Man, you know, you know that's ridiculous. 0:01:29.441 --> 0:01:30.041 He's nice. 0:01:30.161 --> 0:01:33.281 I think it would be interesting just for the listeners 0:01:33.321 --> 0:01:35.481 who might have been not so familiar with you a 0:01:35.521 --> 0:01:37.761 bit more about like what your program does and what 0:01:37.761 --> 0:01:38.720 it is that you mainly do. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.840 Guys, you were saying, my educational backgrounds guinesiology, emphasis and biomechanics, 0:01:42.881 --> 0:01:45.721 and I did all my research on movement sequencing, so 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.241 it's any type of movement secrecing and how it directly 0:01:48.281 --> 0:01:53.121 correlates to a drenal system management and nervous moptimization, So 0:01:53.401 --> 0:01:56.561 basically managing your drenal system and organizing your nervousism, so 0:01:56.601 --> 0:01:59.761 helping you think better and be more conditioned and control 0:01:59.801 --> 0:02:03.121 your adrenaline while you're in stressful situations. So for me, 0:02:03.401 --> 0:02:05.841 a lot of my training curricular foundation is all body 0:02:05.841 --> 0:02:09.761 weight based, so you don't have to utilize load or 0:02:09.801 --> 0:02:11.881 weight or anything. You pretty much just use your body weight. 0:02:12.001 --> 0:02:15.201 So it was something that I worked with a lot of, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.081 you know, professional athletes and lead athletes. I'd work with 0:02:18.121 --> 0:02:20.601 a lot of first responders just because they're in high 0:02:20.601 --> 0:02:25.400 stress situations. So whether that be fieries, law enforcement, military, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.401 et cetera, any type of stressful situations, I helped to 0:02:29.441 --> 0:02:32.161 manage that adrenaline. I started working with Chris, and when 0:02:32.201 --> 0:02:34.321 we did that, we started focusing a lot more on 0:02:34.441 --> 0:02:37.241 how that directly correlates to the metabolism and getting you 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.721 functionally strong and getting your metabolism optimized. And so a 0:02:40.721 --> 0:02:43.041 lot of people loved it. It's hard, but it's like 0:02:43.121 --> 0:02:44.561 I said, people get scared of it, but you know 0:02:44.761 --> 0:02:45.641 it's not that scary. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.001 So you're talking about the kind of exercises you do 0:02:48.361 --> 0:02:51.281 or you teach these first responders help them lower their 0:02:51.281 --> 0:02:53.681 stress levels, they make better decisions in the moment. 0:02:54.121 --> 0:02:57.041 It's interesting because when you're doing movement sequencing, you know 0:02:57.081 --> 0:02:59.321 the methodology is all based in For example, if I 0:02:59.321 --> 0:03:02.400 told you to run around the track one time, easy day. 0:03:02.441 --> 0:03:04.361 But if I told you to change the movement pattern 0:03:04.481 --> 0:03:07.881 every ten meters, every five meters and I told you 0:03:07.921 --> 0:03:11.641 crawl backwards, cross sideways, hop skin, jump up, jump out, 0:03:12.041 --> 0:03:14.281 hop on one leg, move around, you'd be exhausted by 0:03:14.321 --> 0:03:15.961 the time. Because every time that we have to motor 0:03:16.001 --> 0:03:18.680 plan and figure out what the next sequence is, you're 0:03:18.921 --> 0:03:21.280 forcing not only your body but your brain to kind 0:03:21.281 --> 0:03:22.960 of come in line to figure that out. And that's 0:03:23.001 --> 0:03:26.280 where the adrenaline starts to increase, right, and your adrenal 0:03:26.321 --> 0:03:29.361 system gets elevated, and your nervous system has to maintain 0:03:29.761 --> 0:03:32.560 some balance so you can make correct decisions and recall 0:03:32.561 --> 0:03:36.281 that information from a cognitive perspective. So I've seen a 0:03:36.281 --> 0:03:39.641 lot of my training protocols be very applicable to not 0:03:39.761 --> 0:03:43.721 only elite athletes and first responders, but those in corporate 0:03:43.801 --> 0:03:46.521 leadership positions, et cetera. Because really, you want to sharpen 0:03:46.521 --> 0:03:48.921 the spear across the board. You not only want to 0:03:48.921 --> 0:03:51.841 be functionally strong and functionally efficient, but you also want 0:03:51.841 --> 0:03:55.321 to make sure neurologically that you are sharp and you're 0:03:55.361 --> 0:03:58.481 able to articulate and recall information and your cock through 0:03:58.521 --> 0:04:00.761 function as at a high level. And in order to 0:04:00.801 --> 0:04:02.361 do that, you have to be able to think while 0:04:02.361 --> 0:04:05.281 you're training. So a lot of us when we do training, 0:04:05.801 --> 0:04:07.641 we do a lot of things where we're just moving 0:04:07.681 --> 0:04:09.241 and we're trying to zone out. You kind of like, 0:04:09.281 --> 0:04:10.801 even if you go for a jog, you're you know, 0:04:10.841 --> 0:04:12.161 I don't want to think. I just want to move. 0:04:12.201 --> 0:04:15.401 And that's totally fine from a cardiovaster standpoint, But when 0:04:15.401 --> 0:04:17.441 you get into a functional movement perspective and try to 0:04:17.481 --> 0:04:20.641 be functionally more efficient, you have to always be thinking 0:04:20.841 --> 0:04:23.080 right And that's where the application comes in with a 0:04:23.081 --> 0:04:25.481 lot of first responders because when you go into situations 0:04:26.161 --> 0:04:28.601 i e. Through like a firey going into a building, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.320 law enforces are going in with Chase the suspect, you 0:04:31.401 --> 0:04:34.081 have to be thinking the entire time. You have to 0:04:34.121 --> 0:04:36.841 focus on your sensory processing and taking in all that 0:04:36.961 --> 0:04:39.841 data and the information around your surroundings and environment. But 0:04:39.921 --> 0:04:42.081 then you have to focus on getting your motive planning 0:04:42.121 --> 0:04:43.960 and your cognitive function at a high level so you 0:04:43.961 --> 0:04:46.721 can execute and utilize all that strength condition that you've 0:04:46.721 --> 0:04:47.281 been training for. 0:04:47.761 --> 0:04:50.121 Yeah, that's super interesting because I totally zone out when 0:04:50.121 --> 0:04:50.601 I exercise. 0:04:50.641 --> 0:04:51.641 This is not thinking at all. 0:04:52.201 --> 0:04:52.841 You just mean. 0:04:52.761 --> 0:04:55.361 Maybe what the next lyric is, But you know, I'm 0:04:58.801 --> 0:05:01.241 you're telling me I need to be thinking more when 0:05:01.281 --> 0:05:02.041 I'm exercising. 0:05:02.361 --> 0:05:04.041 It's interesting because I mean, for me, like a lot 0:05:04.041 --> 0:05:06.161 of the things that we do, I mean even from 0:05:06.281 --> 0:05:08.241 coal water emersion therapies and a lot of the stuff 0:05:08.281 --> 0:05:10.961 that's been doing right now. You know, I work with Plunge, 0:05:11.001 --> 0:05:13.001 and you know Andrew Huberman does a lot of the 0:05:13.041 --> 0:05:15.081 recover modalities. I've been doing a lot of the resilience 0:05:15.081 --> 0:05:18.801 protocols and understanding how anytime our body's put under stress, 0:05:19.041 --> 0:05:23.721 our ability to become more resilient is probably the most 0:05:23.721 --> 0:05:28.361 important thing, right because we're able to succeed and is 0:05:28.481 --> 0:05:30.201 important in learning how to win. But a lot of 0:05:30.241 --> 0:05:32.921 people do not know how to lose. I always tell 0:05:33.121 --> 0:05:35.961 people that I work with that I can't guarantee that 0:05:36.001 --> 0:05:38.161 you're gonna win, but I guarantee through the process you're 0:05:38.161 --> 0:05:40.080 going to lose and you're gonna fail. That's one hundred 0:05:40.081 --> 0:05:42.761 percent guarantee. And I think the trouble that a lot 0:05:42.761 --> 0:05:46.520 of people have is in those situations, their ability to 0:05:46.601 --> 0:05:50.681 overcome that and be more resilient is really the key. 0:05:51.001 --> 0:05:53.641 So yeah, I'm really glad you talked about resilience because 0:05:53.641 --> 0:05:55.841 resilient is a key part of what I talk about 0:05:55.841 --> 0:05:58.481 when it comes to leadership. Now, I talk a lot 0:05:58.521 --> 0:06:01.601 about resilience being the obstacles. 0:06:00.921 --> 0:06:01.401 Are the path. 0:06:01.521 --> 0:06:02.921 This is like how I describe it to a lot 0:06:02.921 --> 0:06:05.200 of paper, right, like the obstacles of the past, Like 0:06:05.241 --> 0:06:06.801 it's going to be that they're going to happen, But 0:06:06.841 --> 0:06:08.161 how do you prepare yourself for it? 0:06:08.561 --> 0:06:12.200 So how does d prepare himself to be resilient? No 0:06:12.281 --> 0:06:13.681 one will believe this in the world. 0:06:13.841 --> 0:06:16.760 They'll think that Darrual bounces out of bed every morning pumped, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.761 he's full of But. 0:06:18.761 --> 0:06:20.520 I reckon it's not true, erck. And some days you 0:06:20.521 --> 0:06:21.520 don't want to get out of bed. 0:06:21.641 --> 0:06:24.921 No, absolutely. I think that's a great question. And I 0:06:24.961 --> 0:06:29.921 think for me it's always about capacity. Increasing your capacity 0:06:29.961 --> 0:06:32.921 is always very important to me. There's pillars in doing so. 0:06:33.161 --> 0:06:35.041 And I think one of the most important things is 0:06:35.041 --> 0:06:37.440 you've got to have purpose, right, So there has to 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.361 be a reason why you get up, reason why you're 0:06:39.361 --> 0:06:41.681 doing something. And so the purpose is kind of our 0:06:41.721 --> 0:06:44.801 GPS system. It kind of keeps our north star, It 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.520 kind of keeps us going and keeps us in the 0:06:46.561 --> 0:06:48.361 right direction even when we get lost, and we all 0:06:48.401 --> 0:06:51.601 get lost in the process. Secondly, I think it's discipline. 0:06:51.841 --> 0:06:55.361 So discipline for us is really about making sure you're 0:06:55.361 --> 0:06:58.001 doing something even when you don't want to do it right, 0:06:58.041 --> 0:06:59.720 You've got to get up. If you've made a commitment 0:06:59.761 --> 0:07:02.001 to yourself, then you have to follow through in that 0:07:02.041 --> 0:07:04.161 commitment and do it whether you feel great about it, 0:07:04.201 --> 0:07:06.001 you don't feel great. You're going to be great some 0:07:06.081 --> 0:07:08.801 days you're not, but you stay disciplined. And then when 0:07:08.801 --> 0:07:13.921 you apply that discipline over time, that discipline then becomes consistency. 0:07:13.961 --> 0:07:17.241 And when you have a consistent discipline over time with 0:07:17.441 --> 0:07:21.441 a strong purpose, then you start to increase your capacity. 0:07:21.521 --> 0:07:24.521 And I think in order to become resilient, you have 0:07:24.601 --> 0:07:29.361 to have the capacity to manage the failures, manage the 0:07:29.401 --> 0:07:33.161 setbacks so that you can dust yourself off and get 0:07:33.241 --> 0:07:36.161 up and get back after it. And I think people 0:07:36.241 --> 0:07:39.321 sometimes look at it from a perspective of I need 0:07:39.401 --> 0:07:43.721 motivation or I need someone to inspire me. But unfortunately, 0:07:43.801 --> 0:07:46.521 I think when you focus too much on inspiration and motivation, 0:07:47.201 --> 0:07:50.681 they're not real. They're kind of fleeting emotions that sometimes 0:07:50.721 --> 0:07:53.761 work and sometimes don't. They're like, you know, those that 0:07:54.081 --> 0:07:57.521 utilize any type of crutch, whatever that may be, when 0:07:57.521 --> 0:08:00.441 they're stressed or they're sad, and they lean on it, 0:08:00.441 --> 0:08:04.121 it becomes this addiction. So I'm always about making resilience 0:08:04.161 --> 0:08:07.521 an addictions rather than be addicted to something that's not 0:08:07.561 --> 0:08:12.401 going to be supporting your overall goal and initiative. I 0:08:12.561 --> 0:08:15.761 find to lean a lot more on to just embrace 0:08:15.841 --> 0:08:18.641 things that are hard and embrace things that are challenging, 0:08:19.041 --> 0:08:21.161 because when you do that, it kind of resets your 0:08:21.241 --> 0:08:23.321 brain to kind of do more of that, embrace more 0:08:23.321 --> 0:08:25.601 of that. On a larger basis, We've. 0:08:25.401 --> 0:08:27.201 Talked to a lot of great leaders on this podcast, 0:08:27.441 --> 0:08:29.881 and a common denominator or theme that I've seen with 0:08:29.921 --> 0:08:33.081 everybody is they've all had to face or overcome some 0:08:33.361 --> 0:08:36.041 kind of adversity, right, Like, it's been a real common thing. 0:08:36.041 --> 0:08:37.481 And I think anyone I've spoken to hasn't had to 0:08:37.481 --> 0:08:39.681 go through something in order to get where they've got to. 0:08:40.081 --> 0:08:41.761 But is there been a challenge that you can think 0:08:41.801 --> 0:08:43.401 of or a moment you went through where you're like, well, 0:08:43.401 --> 0:08:45.401 that's kind of made me the person name today? 0:08:45.401 --> 0:08:46.641 Would you say that's the same for you? 0:08:46.801 --> 0:08:49.241 It's definitely not been an easy ride. I think through 0:08:49.241 --> 0:08:51.601 the process. I mean also, as you know, you know, 0:08:51.601 --> 0:08:54.001 like being a dad is always challenging, right because there's 0:08:54.001 --> 0:08:55.881 people that are counting on you, et cetera. But I 0:08:55.881 --> 0:08:57.841 think you start to second guess yourself a lot because 0:08:57.961 --> 0:09:01.561 all of us that are essentially whether you're working within 0:09:01.561 --> 0:09:03.961 a company or you're an entrepreneur, you have to lean 0:09:04.001 --> 0:09:06.201 on yourself. A lot of us lean on We're blessed 0:09:06.201 --> 0:09:08.681 to have good friends or family around us that will 0:09:08.721 --> 0:09:12.801 support us through different hardships and challenges. But as you 0:09:13.161 --> 0:09:15.561 kind of grow into yourself, you understand that it's really 0:09:15.721 --> 0:09:17.561 you got to pick yourself up and you have to 0:09:17.641 --> 0:09:20.841 understand it. And I think, looking back, I don't regret 0:09:20.921 --> 0:09:23.201 any of my setbacks. I don't regret any of my 0:09:23.521 --> 0:09:26.081 losses because that's where I learn the most, because I 0:09:26.081 --> 0:09:29.281 don't feel like you learn anything from wins. Anytime you 0:09:29.321 --> 0:09:32.001 win or you succeed, you learn nothing. It's kind of 0:09:32.081 --> 0:09:35.041 like you celebrate it. It's important to celebrate it. But 0:09:35.121 --> 0:09:37.081 at the same time, I think you don't learn anything. 0:09:37.121 --> 0:09:39.041 And I'm such a student of the game, the student 0:09:39.081 --> 0:09:42.841 of life, that I almost embrace failure. I embrace, you know, 0:09:42.961 --> 0:09:44.841 doing things that are not I'm not going to be 0:09:45.001 --> 0:09:47.081 proficient at. Because people tend to kind of shy away 0:09:47.081 --> 0:09:49.681 from those things, and you have to be willing to 0:09:49.721 --> 0:09:52.361 take ridicule and people to think that you're silly, you're 0:09:52.361 --> 0:09:54.561 a little different, You're not sitting in the same room 0:09:54.601 --> 0:09:57.401 as all of us. You're willing to stay longer, get early, 0:09:57.961 --> 0:10:00.081 you know, do things a little differently. And I think 0:10:00.161 --> 0:10:02.601 those are the people that I gravitate toward and I'm 0:10:02.601 --> 0:10:06.281 passionate about because when you lose, the fear of failing 0:10:07.841 --> 0:10:11.161 comes much stronger. So I think that's something that can 0:10:11.201 --> 0:10:14.761 be cultivated within a corporate environment as a culture, because 0:10:14.801 --> 0:10:18.081 most of the leaders, business leaders, you have an employees 0:10:18.361 --> 0:10:20.961 or base, you know, people that are counting on them 0:10:21.041 --> 0:10:25.201 for guidance and to give them to lead the ship. 0:10:25.521 --> 0:10:27.361 And so I think the culture you want to have 0:10:27.441 --> 0:10:30.761 is where everyone embraces that same perspective, which is it 0:10:30.801 --> 0:10:33.441 may not be fun, but understanding that, hey, we didn't 0:10:33.441 --> 0:10:35.801 succeed here, but we learned a lot and we're going 0:10:35.841 --> 0:10:38.001 to continue to learn as we move forward. And I 0:10:38.041 --> 0:10:42.121 think if that becomes the barometer for success, then you're 0:10:42.161 --> 0:10:44.521 on the right ship. And so I think that's where 0:10:44.561 --> 0:10:47.161 all of us are trying to get to at this point. 0:10:47.321 --> 0:10:49.321 I totally agree with you and surrounding yourself with people 0:10:49.401 --> 0:10:52.161 who back you and support you is great. But for me, 0:10:52.201 --> 0:10:54.681 it's always an element of self belief, right because to 0:10:54.121 --> 0:10:56.601 your people, right, you've got to have this self. But 0:10:57.041 --> 0:10:59.881 do you feel you've always had that? Like is that 0:10:59.961 --> 0:11:02.681 just been like you were born Drooks, like you know, 0:11:03.761 --> 0:11:05.561 he's always had self belief or is that something you've 0:11:05.561 --> 0:11:06.081 had to learn? 0:11:07.081 --> 0:11:09.961 I think it's inherently. I think it was something that 0:11:10.001 --> 0:11:12.001 you had to learn, And that's something I had to 0:11:12.041 --> 0:11:14.521 learn personally, you know, growing up. It was one of 0:11:14.601 --> 0:11:16.281 those things for me that I've always done think a 0:11:16.281 --> 0:11:18.001 little differently. I beat it to my own. 0:11:17.881 --> 0:11:19.201 Drum, can't imagine it. 0:11:19.481 --> 0:11:23.961 Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So I'm always I've always been 0:11:24.001 --> 0:11:26.321 a little bit different when it comes to that perspective, 0:11:26.361 --> 0:11:28.401 and I've been fascinating with it. 0:11:28.521 --> 0:11:30.081 Yeah. I wanted to talk you about this because you're 0:11:30.121 --> 0:11:32.681 based in California, right, Yes, yes, so it would be 0:11:32.761 --> 0:11:35.001 when would be one of the places where the most 0:11:35.041 --> 0:11:38.041 pressure to be somebody or to look a certain way 0:11:38.121 --> 0:11:41.561 or to behave a certain way. Right, So how hard 0:11:41.681 --> 0:11:43.921 is it like when you talk about authenticity and I 0:11:44.001 --> 0:11:46.961 know this of you, you're a very loving fun, you know. 0:11:47.241 --> 0:11:49.961 But here's a big question for you. Sure is that 0:11:50.481 --> 0:11:51.361 the authentic you? 0:11:51.681 --> 0:11:54.161 That's a great question. And I think I'm much more 0:11:54.161 --> 0:11:56.001 of an introvert. I'm not an exterpt. You would think 0:11:56.001 --> 0:11:58.441 i'ld be an out loud but that it really drains 0:11:58.481 --> 0:12:01.841 my energy if you could be like an outgoing introvert, right, 0:12:01.881 --> 0:12:03.801 So I need my time to kind of find out 0:12:03.961 --> 0:12:07.081 is that who you are as well? Entirely right, because 0:12:07.121 --> 0:12:10.081 I what happens is that you give so much. Because 0:12:10.081 --> 0:12:13.201 when I'm engaged and we're getting involved in some type 0:12:13.241 --> 0:12:16.321 of an event or some type of business venture or whatever, 0:12:16.401 --> 0:12:18.921 you're all in. Like I'm all in. But I think 0:12:19.041 --> 0:12:20.921 some people are able to kind of manage that where 0:12:20.921 --> 0:12:23.521 they'll give like sixty percent seventy percent of their energy. 0:12:23.721 --> 0:12:25.561 I don't know how to do that. I just go 0:12:26.041 --> 0:12:29.241 one hundred percent in and I'm like everything's going into it. 0:12:29.281 --> 0:12:31.361 But what happens is that I realize, like if I 0:12:31.361 --> 0:12:34.361 don't take time to sit back and recover and find 0:12:34.361 --> 0:12:37.921 my balance, and if I don't take time to do 0:12:38.041 --> 0:12:41.241 those things, that's where I start to have issues. I 0:12:41.241 --> 0:12:44.761 think I lose my creativity, I lose my drive, I 0:12:44.801 --> 0:12:46.481 lose a lot of those things. So I think it's 0:12:46.521 --> 0:12:49.241 important to have time to have balance. And that's where 0:12:49.361 --> 0:12:52.401 I think there's a direct correlation m to in the 0:12:52.401 --> 0:12:55.281 training world that I live in, everyone was so focused 0:12:55.321 --> 0:12:57.961 on performance for so long. Right, there's three pillars in 0:12:58.001 --> 0:13:01.161 my business, which is performance, recovery, and wellness. Those are 0:13:01.201 --> 0:13:03.561 the three pillars. So you sit in one of those 0:13:03.601 --> 0:13:05.441 three pillars, and I think for so long people are 0:13:05.481 --> 0:13:08.681 off performance. If you don't focus on the recovery and 0:13:08.721 --> 0:13:11.521 taking care of yourself and recovering from that training and 0:13:11.521 --> 0:13:15.441 that performance, right, then it directly starts affect your third pillar, 0:13:15.481 --> 0:13:17.641 which is the wellness, which is you just your overall 0:13:18.241 --> 0:13:21.041 health and wellness and my mental and physical health. So 0:13:21.641 --> 0:13:24.281 I think from my standpoint in business and in general, 0:13:24.401 --> 0:13:26.561 we were talking about being those insurants. I need that 0:13:27.001 --> 0:13:28.881 because when I started to find out early in my 0:13:28.961 --> 0:13:32.641 career is that I would push so hard into performance 0:13:32.841 --> 0:13:36.721 and giving that then you have nothing left for recovery 0:13:37.201 --> 0:13:40.321 and this pillar starts to crumble, then your wellness crumbles 0:13:40.361 --> 0:13:43.161 as well. So I think balance is something that we 0:13:43.241 --> 0:13:45.481 all find We all have different types of balance and 0:13:45.601 --> 0:13:48.881 levels of balance, but I think it's important that we 0:13:49.001 --> 0:13:51.041 find that part of ourselves that is a balance. And 0:13:51.121 --> 0:13:53.441 I applaud those that could be totally extroverts and they're 0:13:53.521 --> 0:13:56.281 just like they need it. But I definitely need my 0:13:56.401 --> 0:13:58.681 quiet time and my time to reset and find my 0:13:58.721 --> 0:13:59.361 balance again. 0:13:59.801 --> 0:14:01.761 Look, I've got a big smile on my face because 0:14:02.121 --> 0:14:04.241 I find it very had to explain to people. Everyone 0:14:04.281 --> 0:14:07.481 thinks I'm allowed extraver all the time. M's always out 0:14:07.481 --> 0:14:09.761 there and she's always crazy. It's one hundred percent I'm not. 0:14:10.041 --> 0:14:12.441 I You call them my Patagonia days, right, This is 0:14:12.441 --> 0:14:13.841 my name for it, which means I just want to 0:14:13.881 --> 0:14:15.681 move to Patagonia and lie in a field and no 0:14:15.721 --> 0:14:17.401 one talked to me for like two weeks. 0:14:17.441 --> 0:14:19.041 So some days I have those days. 0:14:19.081 --> 0:14:20.441 Do you ever feel like you're putting on it? Like 0:14:20.481 --> 0:14:21.601 you have to put on the mask? Like you can 0:14:21.601 --> 0:14:23.201 wear the mask if you have to, you throw on 0:14:23.241 --> 0:14:25.881 the mask. You can be that total high energy like 0:14:25.921 --> 0:14:27.841 I put the mask on. But that mask ares get 0:14:27.921 --> 0:14:31.881 heavy and uncomfortable at a certain point, and I can't imagine. 0:14:32.001 --> 0:14:33.681 I try to liken it to people that, so you 0:14:33.681 --> 0:14:35.761 put a mask on, you wear it, everyone loves it. 0:14:36.241 --> 0:14:38.081 But then when you want to go to sleep, you 0:14:38.081 --> 0:14:39.801 have to wear the mask to there has some color 0:14:39.801 --> 0:14:42.361 of time. We take the mask off and you just 0:14:42.441 --> 0:14:43.481 kind of reset yourself. 0:14:43.721 --> 0:14:46.321 Yeah, I know, right, And I just think that what's 0:14:46.321 --> 0:14:48.521 important for leader is as well is for a lot 0:14:48.561 --> 0:14:50.401 of us there is that mask all the time, like 0:14:50.441 --> 0:14:51.961 you've got to step up, You've got to you know, 0:14:52.041 --> 0:14:53.521 sometimes you're going to show up when you don't want 0:14:53.521 --> 0:14:55.801 to show up. But you're right if you're not taking 0:14:55.841 --> 0:15:00.001 that time out to recover, right, because time's tough, like 0:15:00.081 --> 0:15:02.201 people are time Paul basically right, So when do you 0:15:02.241 --> 0:15:04.121 find this time to recover and do this for you? 0:15:04.241 --> 0:15:06.761 And I have found over the years I have felt 0:15:06.761 --> 0:15:10.641 that level of burnout and lost my creativity at times 0:15:10.681 --> 0:15:12.801 because I'm like, I don't have anything left in the tank. 0:15:13.081 --> 0:15:14.681 You have to fill it up, you have to plan 0:15:14.761 --> 0:15:16.161 it out. If you don't, you're going to run out 0:15:16.201 --> 0:15:18.161 of gas and then you're stuck on the side. 0:15:18.481 --> 0:15:20.881 But this is I think where vulnerability comes in the 0:15:20.961 --> 0:15:23.921 right to the play, because what sells or what's interesting 0:15:24.001 --> 0:15:26.081 or what people often admire is the go go, go, 0:15:26.081 --> 0:15:26.481 go go. 0:15:26.881 --> 0:15:27.921 And this is where imposter. 0:15:27.681 --> 0:15:29.841 Syndrome comes in, right, because everyone thinks I can't compete 0:15:29.841 --> 0:15:31.401 with that because I can't be that person. I mean, 0:15:31.401 --> 0:15:33.441 there be people out there that think I'm never going 0:15:33.521 --> 0:15:35.681 to be like, well, sure right, and they never will. 0:15:35.721 --> 0:15:37.961 But but you but they'll have this like level where 0:15:37.961 --> 0:15:40.201 they'll go, I can't get there. But actually you've got 0:15:40.241 --> 0:15:42.521 another side to the coin right where you need to 0:15:42.721 --> 0:15:43.841 reboot and ranogize. 0:15:44.161 --> 0:15:45.721 But don't you agreek up that mean with you with 0:15:45.761 --> 0:15:47.721 your friends and the people that you know. I think 0:15:47.761 --> 0:15:49.441 everyone has another side of the coin. It's just how 0:15:49.481 --> 0:15:51.961 well they hide it or how they're willing to express it. 0:15:52.121 --> 0:15:54.481 There's just there's no way, no matter who it is, 0:15:54.521 --> 0:15:56.681 the most high profile person has another side of the coin. 0:15:56.761 --> 0:15:59.441 So I think when you talk about vulnerability, it's much 0:15:59.441 --> 0:16:02.201 more about being honest with yourself, right, And I think 0:16:02.241 --> 0:16:05.281 you cannot be vulnerable unless you're honest. If you're not honest, 0:16:05.321 --> 0:16:07.761 you're not really being vulnerable because you're still hiding. You're 0:16:07.801 --> 0:16:10.081 still hiding you trying to like pretend that you're this 0:16:10.241 --> 0:16:12.361 or that. But you have to be honest that I'm 0:16:12.361 --> 0:16:14.841 not superhuman, that this is who I am. When I go, 0:16:14.961 --> 0:16:16.601 I go, when I go to the best my ability 0:16:16.601 --> 0:16:18.801 and I go full throttle. I kick ass teck names. 0:16:19.241 --> 0:16:20.641 But at the same time, there has to come a 0:16:20.681 --> 0:16:22.601 time where you have to reset. And it's not bad, 0:16:22.681 --> 0:16:26.361 it's actually necessary. I don't think it's like natural, like oh, 0:16:26.401 --> 0:16:29.361 it's just your human It's necessary. Every peak performer that 0:16:29.361 --> 0:16:33.161 I've ever been around, elite athletes, elite Olympic athletes, lead 0:16:33.161 --> 0:16:37.361 professional athletes, elite tactical you know, operators from the standpoint 0:16:37.361 --> 0:16:40.001 of military set all the same. They have to recover. 0:16:40.721 --> 0:16:42.561 You know, if they go on like for example, guys 0:16:42.561 --> 0:16:45.161 that are like on seal teams, they'll go on deployment 0:16:45.201 --> 0:16:47.841 and they're intense. When they come back there ghosts. You 0:16:47.841 --> 0:16:49.761 cannot find them. They need time alone, they need tell 0:16:49.841 --> 0:16:52.721 to family, they need to times solo. They have to reset. 0:16:52.761 --> 0:16:55.041 That's how we are, that's how we're built. So I 0:16:55.081 --> 0:16:58.641 think this whole culture of just go, go go, I'll 0:16:58.681 --> 0:17:01.681 rest later. I think people equate resting to laziness, and 0:17:01.721 --> 0:17:05.600 it's not resting is to be very thoughtful, mindful of 0:17:05.681 --> 0:17:08.920 laziness rest. You have to find an adequate amount of 0:17:08.921 --> 0:17:11.680 time and optimal rest in recovery. If you do, then 0:17:11.761 --> 0:17:13.840 you'll be able to have a higher quality of performance 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.281 in time that you're training. If that makes sense. 0:17:16.441 --> 0:17:18.401 All right, I'm going to ask you to flashback. 0:17:18.481 --> 0:17:19.921 I don't know how long you need to flash pack, 0:17:19.921 --> 0:17:23.681 but let's go at twenty year old d'arrooke, you're twenty. 0:17:23.521 --> 0:17:25.561 Years old, son of a bitch, that was. 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.041 I'd love to see what that looks like a picture 0:17:28.041 --> 0:17:29.640 for me? Do we have do we have less? Hear more? 0:17:29.681 --> 0:17:29.801 Here? 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:30.120