1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Appoloche Production. 2 00:00:10,801 --> 00:00:14,521 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Brave Always the CEO series. 3 00:00:14,721 --> 00:00:18,521 Speaker 2: This series, we launch into the new world of brave leadership. 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Happy people create happy businesses, true. 5 00:00:21,241 --> 00:00:23,001 Speaker 1: Emotionally intelligent leadership. 6 00:00:23,041 --> 00:00:25,441 Speaker 2: I've picked up vomit once on our about our fourth flight, 7 00:00:25,681 --> 00:00:27,601 Speaker 2: and everybody thought, well, if it's good enough for him, 8 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I can do it. 9 00:00:28,241 --> 00:00:28,441 Speaker 3: Now. 10 00:00:28,521 --> 00:00:31,121 Speaker 1: We will be joined by culture and leadership. 11 00:00:30,721 --> 00:00:35,121 Speaker 2: Experts and some superstar CEOs who will courageously tell us 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: the truth behind their brave leadership journeys. Today I am 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,161 Speaker 2: joined by the amazing and one of my favorite, d Rook. 14 00:00:42,361 --> 00:00:43,641 Speaker 1: Functional training expert. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,841 Speaker 2: D'arrook trains superheroes, Navy seals, firefighters, law enforcement, and Chris Hemsworth, 16 00:00:50,161 --> 00:00:53,321 Speaker 2: a certified strength and Conditioning specialist with a Bachelor of 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,721 Speaker 2: Science and Kinesiology. He is the creator of Raw Functional 18 00:00:56,721 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Training RFT, a revolutionary approach to movement. 19 00:01:00,001 --> 00:01:01,601 Speaker 3: Welcome Rourke, how are you doing? 20 00:01:01,921 --> 00:01:03,441 Speaker 1: You know, it's so nice to see you. It's been 21 00:01:03,441 --> 00:01:05,041 Speaker 1: a while. It's been a couple of years actually. 22 00:01:05,121 --> 00:01:08,801 Speaker 2: Later for people who don't know Rooke, obviously a lot 23 00:01:08,801 --> 00:01:10,481 Speaker 2: of people in Stratium might know you from the Center 24 00:01:10,521 --> 00:01:12,241 Speaker 2: app because I feel like that's something they might have 25 00:01:12,241 --> 00:01:14,401 Speaker 2: seen you a lot on and I can tell people 26 00:01:14,441 --> 00:01:15,401 Speaker 2: firsthand if you haven't done it. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,761 Speaker 1: Rook's pretty. He's frightening on the center. App he's not 28 00:01:17,801 --> 00:01:18,681 Speaker 1: so frightening in personally. 29 00:01:19,081 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: When I read these comments about you and people are like, 30 00:01:21,601 --> 00:01:22,601 Speaker 2: oh my god, he killed me. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,121 Speaker 1: He's so hardcore, I'm like, he's a teddy bear. 32 00:01:26,481 --> 00:01:29,441 Speaker 3: Man, you know, you know that's ridiculous. 33 00:01:29,441 --> 00:01:30,041 Speaker 1: He's nice. 34 00:01:30,161 --> 00:01:33,281 Speaker 2: I think it would be interesting just for the listeners 35 00:01:33,321 --> 00:01:35,481 Speaker 2: who might have been not so familiar with you a 36 00:01:35,521 --> 00:01:37,761 Speaker 2: bit more about like what your program does and what 37 00:01:37,761 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: it is that you mainly do. 38 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: Guys, you were saying, my educational backgrounds guinesiology, emphasis and biomechanics, 39 00:01:42,881 --> 00:01:45,721 Speaker 3: and I did all my research on movement sequencing, so 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,241 Speaker 3: it's any type of movement secrecing and how it directly 41 00:01:48,281 --> 00:01:53,121 Speaker 3: correlates to a drenal system management and nervous moptimization, So 42 00:01:53,401 --> 00:01:56,561 Speaker 3: basically managing your drenal system and organizing your nervousism, so 43 00:01:56,601 --> 00:01:59,761 Speaker 3: helping you think better and be more conditioned and control 44 00:01:59,801 --> 00:02:03,121 Speaker 3: your adrenaline while you're in stressful situations. So for me, 45 00:02:03,401 --> 00:02:05,841 Speaker 3: a lot of my training curricular foundation is all body 46 00:02:05,841 --> 00:02:09,761 Speaker 3: weight based, so you don't have to utilize load or 47 00:02:09,801 --> 00:02:11,881 Speaker 3: weight or anything. You pretty much just use your body weight. 48 00:02:12,001 --> 00:02:15,201 Speaker 3: So it was something that I worked with a lot of, 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,081 Speaker 3: you know, professional athletes and lead athletes. I'd work with 50 00:02:18,121 --> 00:02:20,601 Speaker 3: a lot of first responders just because they're in high 51 00:02:20,601 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: stress situations. So whether that be fieries, law enforcement, military, 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,401 Speaker 3: et cetera, any type of stressful situations, I helped to 53 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:32,161 Speaker 3: manage that adrenaline. I started working with Chris, and when 54 00:02:32,201 --> 00:02:34,321 Speaker 3: we did that, we started focusing a lot more on 55 00:02:34,441 --> 00:02:37,241 Speaker 3: how that directly correlates to the metabolism and getting you 56 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,721 Speaker 3: functionally strong and getting your metabolism optimized. And so a 57 00:02:40,721 --> 00:02:43,041 Speaker 3: lot of people loved it. It's hard, but it's like 58 00:02:43,121 --> 00:02:44,561 Speaker 3: I said, people get scared of it, but you know 59 00:02:44,761 --> 00:02:45,641 Speaker 3: it's not that scary. 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,001 Speaker 2: So you're talking about the kind of exercises you do 61 00:02:48,361 --> 00:02:51,281 Speaker 2: or you teach these first responders help them lower their 62 00:02:51,281 --> 00:02:53,681 Speaker 2: stress levels, they make better decisions in the moment. 63 00:02:54,121 --> 00:02:57,041 Speaker 3: It's interesting because when you're doing movement sequencing, you know 64 00:02:57,081 --> 00:02:59,321 Speaker 3: the methodology is all based in For example, if I 65 00:02:59,321 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: told you to run around the track one time, easy day. 66 00:03:02,441 --> 00:03:04,361 Speaker 3: But if I told you to change the movement pattern 67 00:03:04,481 --> 00:03:07,881 Speaker 3: every ten meters, every five meters and I told you 68 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:11,641 Speaker 3: crawl backwards, cross sideways, hop skin, jump up, jump out, 69 00:03:12,041 --> 00:03:14,281 Speaker 3: hop on one leg, move around, you'd be exhausted by 70 00:03:14,321 --> 00:03:15,961 Speaker 3: the time. Because every time that we have to motor 71 00:03:16,001 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: plan and figure out what the next sequence is, you're 72 00:03:18,921 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: forcing not only your body but your brain to kind 73 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: of come in line to figure that out. And that's 74 00:03:23,001 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: where the adrenaline starts to increase, right, and your adrenal 75 00:03:26,321 --> 00:03:29,361 Speaker 3: system gets elevated, and your nervous system has to maintain 76 00:03:29,761 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: some balance so you can make correct decisions and recall 77 00:03:32,561 --> 00:03:36,281 Speaker 3: that information from a cognitive perspective. So I've seen a 78 00:03:36,281 --> 00:03:39,641 Speaker 3: lot of my training protocols be very applicable to not 79 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:43,721 Speaker 3: only elite athletes and first responders, but those in corporate 80 00:03:43,801 --> 00:03:46,521 Speaker 3: leadership positions, et cetera. Because really, you want to sharpen 81 00:03:46,521 --> 00:03:48,921 Speaker 3: the spear across the board. You not only want to 82 00:03:48,921 --> 00:03:51,841 Speaker 3: be functionally strong and functionally efficient, but you also want 83 00:03:51,841 --> 00:03:55,321 Speaker 3: to make sure neurologically that you are sharp and you're 84 00:03:55,361 --> 00:03:58,481 Speaker 3: able to articulate and recall information and your cock through 85 00:03:58,521 --> 00:04:00,761 Speaker 3: function as at a high level. And in order to 86 00:04:00,801 --> 00:04:02,361 Speaker 3: do that, you have to be able to think while 87 00:04:02,361 --> 00:04:05,281 Speaker 3: you're training. So a lot of us when we do training, 88 00:04:05,801 --> 00:04:07,641 Speaker 3: we do a lot of things where we're just moving 89 00:04:07,681 --> 00:04:09,241 Speaker 3: and we're trying to zone out. You kind of like, 90 00:04:09,281 --> 00:04:10,801 Speaker 3: even if you go for a jog, you're you know, 91 00:04:10,841 --> 00:04:12,161 Speaker 3: I don't want to think. I just want to move. 92 00:04:12,201 --> 00:04:15,401 Speaker 3: And that's totally fine from a cardiovaster standpoint, But when 93 00:04:15,401 --> 00:04:17,441 Speaker 3: you get into a functional movement perspective and try to 94 00:04:17,481 --> 00:04:20,641 Speaker 3: be functionally more efficient, you have to always be thinking 95 00:04:20,841 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: right And that's where the application comes in with a 96 00:04:23,081 --> 00:04:25,481 Speaker 3: lot of first responders because when you go into situations 97 00:04:26,161 --> 00:04:28,601 Speaker 3: i e. Through like a firey going into a building, 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: law enforces are going in with Chase the suspect, you 99 00:04:31,401 --> 00:04:34,081 Speaker 3: have to be thinking the entire time. You have to 100 00:04:34,121 --> 00:04:36,841 Speaker 3: focus on your sensory processing and taking in all that 101 00:04:36,961 --> 00:04:39,841 Speaker 3: data and the information around your surroundings and environment. But 102 00:04:39,921 --> 00:04:42,081 Speaker 3: then you have to focus on getting your motive planning 103 00:04:42,121 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: and your cognitive function at a high level so you 104 00:04:43,961 --> 00:04:46,721 Speaker 3: can execute and utilize all that strength condition that you've 105 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:47,281 Speaker 3: been training for. 106 00:04:47,761 --> 00:04:50,121 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's super interesting because I totally zone out when 107 00:04:50,121 --> 00:04:50,601 Speaker 2: I exercise. 108 00:04:50,641 --> 00:04:51,641 Speaker 1: This is not thinking at all. 109 00:04:52,201 --> 00:04:52,841 Speaker 3: You just mean. 110 00:04:52,761 --> 00:04:55,361 Speaker 2: Maybe what the next lyric is, But you know, I'm 111 00:04:58,801 --> 00:05:01,241 Speaker 2: you're telling me I need to be thinking more when 112 00:05:01,281 --> 00:05:02,041 Speaker 2: I'm exercising. 113 00:05:02,361 --> 00:05:04,041 Speaker 3: It's interesting because I mean, for me, like a lot 114 00:05:04,041 --> 00:05:06,161 Speaker 3: of the things that we do, I mean even from 115 00:05:06,281 --> 00:05:08,241 Speaker 3: coal water emersion therapies and a lot of the stuff 116 00:05:08,281 --> 00:05:10,961 Speaker 3: that's been doing right now. You know, I work with Plunge, 117 00:05:11,001 --> 00:05:13,001 Speaker 3: and you know Andrew Huberman does a lot of the 118 00:05:13,041 --> 00:05:15,081 Speaker 3: recover modalities. I've been doing a lot of the resilience 119 00:05:15,081 --> 00:05:18,801 Speaker 3: protocols and understanding how anytime our body's put under stress, 120 00:05:19,041 --> 00:05:23,721 Speaker 3: our ability to become more resilient is probably the most 121 00:05:23,721 --> 00:05:28,361 Speaker 3: important thing, right because we're able to succeed and is 122 00:05:28,481 --> 00:05:30,201 Speaker 3: important in learning how to win. But a lot of 123 00:05:30,241 --> 00:05:32,921 Speaker 3: people do not know how to lose. I always tell 124 00:05:33,121 --> 00:05:35,961 Speaker 3: people that I work with that I can't guarantee that 125 00:05:36,001 --> 00:05:38,161 Speaker 3: you're gonna win, but I guarantee through the process you're 126 00:05:38,161 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: going to lose and you're gonna fail. That's one hundred 127 00:05:40,081 --> 00:05:42,761 Speaker 3: percent guarantee. And I think the trouble that a lot 128 00:05:42,761 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: of people have is in those situations, their ability to 129 00:05:46,601 --> 00:05:50,681 Speaker 3: overcome that and be more resilient is really the key. 130 00:05:51,001 --> 00:05:53,641 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really glad you talked about resilience because 131 00:05:53,641 --> 00:05:55,841 Speaker 2: resilient is a key part of what I talk about 132 00:05:55,841 --> 00:05:58,481 Speaker 2: when it comes to leadership. Now, I talk a lot 133 00:05:58,521 --> 00:06:01,601 Speaker 2: about resilience being the obstacles. 134 00:06:00,921 --> 00:06:01,401 Speaker 1: Are the path. 135 00:06:01,521 --> 00:06:02,921 Speaker 2: This is like how I describe it to a lot 136 00:06:02,921 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: of paper, right, like the obstacles of the past, Like 137 00:06:05,241 --> 00:06:06,801 Speaker 2: it's going to be that they're going to happen, But 138 00:06:06,841 --> 00:06:08,161 Speaker 2: how do you prepare yourself for it? 139 00:06:08,561 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: So how does d prepare himself to be resilient? No 140 00:06:12,281 --> 00:06:13,681 Speaker 1: one will believe this in the world. 141 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: They'll think that Darrual bounces out of bed every morning pumped, 142 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,761 Speaker 2: he's full of But. 143 00:06:18,761 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: I reckon it's not true, erck. And some days you 144 00:06:20,521 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: don't want to get out of bed. 145 00:06:21,641 --> 00:06:24,921 Speaker 3: No, absolutely. I think that's a great question. And I 146 00:06:24,961 --> 00:06:29,921 Speaker 3: think for me it's always about capacity. Increasing your capacity 147 00:06:29,961 --> 00:06:32,921 Speaker 3: is always very important to me. There's pillars in doing so. 148 00:06:33,161 --> 00:06:35,041 Speaker 3: And I think one of the most important things is 149 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: you've got to have purpose, right, So there has to 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,361 Speaker 3: be a reason why you get up, reason why you're 151 00:06:39,361 --> 00:06:41,681 Speaker 3: doing something. And so the purpose is kind of our 152 00:06:41,721 --> 00:06:44,801 Speaker 3: GPS system. It kind of keeps our north star, It 153 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: kind of keeps us going and keeps us in the 154 00:06:46,561 --> 00:06:48,361 Speaker 3: right direction even when we get lost, and we all 155 00:06:48,401 --> 00:06:51,601 Speaker 3: get lost in the process. Secondly, I think it's discipline. 156 00:06:51,841 --> 00:06:55,361 Speaker 3: So discipline for us is really about making sure you're 157 00:06:55,361 --> 00:06:58,001 Speaker 3: doing something even when you don't want to do it right, 158 00:06:58,041 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: You've got to get up. If you've made a commitment 159 00:06:59,761 --> 00:07:02,001 Speaker 3: to yourself, then you have to follow through in that 160 00:07:02,041 --> 00:07:04,161 Speaker 3: commitment and do it whether you feel great about it, 161 00:07:04,201 --> 00:07:06,001 Speaker 3: you don't feel great. You're going to be great some 162 00:07:06,081 --> 00:07:08,801 Speaker 3: days you're not, but you stay disciplined. And then when 163 00:07:08,801 --> 00:07:13,921 Speaker 3: you apply that discipline over time, that discipline then becomes consistency. 164 00:07:13,961 --> 00:07:17,241 Speaker 3: And when you have a consistent discipline over time with 165 00:07:17,441 --> 00:07:21,441 Speaker 3: a strong purpose, then you start to increase your capacity. 166 00:07:21,521 --> 00:07:24,521 Speaker 3: And I think in order to become resilient, you have 167 00:07:24,601 --> 00:07:29,361 Speaker 3: to have the capacity to manage the failures, manage the 168 00:07:29,401 --> 00:07:33,161 Speaker 3: setbacks so that you can dust yourself off and get 169 00:07:33,241 --> 00:07:36,161 Speaker 3: up and get back after it. And I think people 170 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:39,321 Speaker 3: sometimes look at it from a perspective of I need 171 00:07:39,401 --> 00:07:43,721 Speaker 3: motivation or I need someone to inspire me. But unfortunately, 172 00:07:43,801 --> 00:07:46,521 Speaker 3: I think when you focus too much on inspiration and motivation, 173 00:07:47,201 --> 00:07:50,681 Speaker 3: they're not real. They're kind of fleeting emotions that sometimes 174 00:07:50,721 --> 00:07:53,761 Speaker 3: work and sometimes don't. They're like, you know, those that 175 00:07:54,081 --> 00:07:57,521 Speaker 3: utilize any type of crutch, whatever that may be, when 176 00:07:57,521 --> 00:08:00,441 Speaker 3: they're stressed or they're sad, and they lean on it, 177 00:08:00,441 --> 00:08:04,121 Speaker 3: it becomes this addiction. So I'm always about making resilience 178 00:08:04,161 --> 00:08:07,521 Speaker 3: an addictions rather than be addicted to something that's not 179 00:08:07,561 --> 00:08:12,401 Speaker 3: going to be supporting your overall goal and initiative. I 180 00:08:12,561 --> 00:08:15,761 Speaker 3: find to lean a lot more on to just embrace 181 00:08:15,841 --> 00:08:18,641 Speaker 3: things that are hard and embrace things that are challenging, 182 00:08:19,041 --> 00:08:21,161 Speaker 3: because when you do that, it kind of resets your 183 00:08:21,241 --> 00:08:23,321 Speaker 3: brain to kind of do more of that, embrace more 184 00:08:23,321 --> 00:08:25,601 Speaker 3: of that. On a larger basis, We've. 185 00:08:25,401 --> 00:08:27,201 Speaker 2: Talked to a lot of great leaders on this podcast, 186 00:08:27,441 --> 00:08:29,881 Speaker 2: and a common denominator or theme that I've seen with 187 00:08:29,921 --> 00:08:33,081 Speaker 2: everybody is they've all had to face or overcome some 188 00:08:33,361 --> 00:08:36,041 Speaker 2: kind of adversity, right, Like, it's been a real common thing. 189 00:08:36,041 --> 00:08:37,481 Speaker 2: And I think anyone I've spoken to hasn't had to 190 00:08:37,481 --> 00:08:39,681 Speaker 2: go through something in order to get where they've got to. 191 00:08:40,081 --> 00:08:41,761 Speaker 2: But is there been a challenge that you can think 192 00:08:41,801 --> 00:08:43,401 Speaker 2: of or a moment you went through where you're like, well, 193 00:08:43,401 --> 00:08:45,401 Speaker 2: that's kind of made me the person name today? 194 00:08:45,401 --> 00:08:46,641 Speaker 1: Would you say that's the same for you? 195 00:08:46,801 --> 00:08:49,241 Speaker 3: It's definitely not been an easy ride. I think through 196 00:08:49,241 --> 00:08:51,601 Speaker 3: the process. I mean also, as you know, you know, 197 00:08:51,601 --> 00:08:54,001 Speaker 3: like being a dad is always challenging, right because there's 198 00:08:54,001 --> 00:08:55,881 Speaker 3: people that are counting on you, et cetera. But I 199 00:08:55,881 --> 00:08:57,841 Speaker 3: think you start to second guess yourself a lot because 200 00:08:57,961 --> 00:09:01,561 Speaker 3: all of us that are essentially whether you're working within 201 00:09:01,561 --> 00:09:03,961 Speaker 3: a company or you're an entrepreneur, you have to lean 202 00:09:04,001 --> 00:09:06,201 Speaker 3: on yourself. A lot of us lean on We're blessed 203 00:09:06,201 --> 00:09:08,681 Speaker 3: to have good friends or family around us that will 204 00:09:08,721 --> 00:09:12,801 Speaker 3: support us through different hardships and challenges. But as you 205 00:09:13,161 --> 00:09:15,561 Speaker 3: kind of grow into yourself, you understand that it's really 206 00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:17,561 Speaker 3: you got to pick yourself up and you have to 207 00:09:17,641 --> 00:09:20,841 Speaker 3: understand it. And I think, looking back, I don't regret 208 00:09:20,921 --> 00:09:23,201 Speaker 3: any of my setbacks. I don't regret any of my 209 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:26,081 Speaker 3: losses because that's where I learn the most, because I 210 00:09:26,081 --> 00:09:29,281 Speaker 3: don't feel like you learn anything from wins. Anytime you 211 00:09:29,321 --> 00:09:32,001 Speaker 3: win or you succeed, you learn nothing. It's kind of 212 00:09:32,081 --> 00:09:35,041 Speaker 3: like you celebrate it. It's important to celebrate it. But 213 00:09:35,121 --> 00:09:37,081 Speaker 3: at the same time, I think you don't learn anything. 214 00:09:37,121 --> 00:09:39,041 Speaker 3: And I'm such a student of the game, the student 215 00:09:39,081 --> 00:09:42,841 Speaker 3: of life, that I almost embrace failure. I embrace, you know, 216 00:09:42,961 --> 00:09:44,841 Speaker 3: doing things that are not I'm not going to be 217 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:47,081 Speaker 3: proficient at. Because people tend to kind of shy away 218 00:09:47,081 --> 00:09:49,681 Speaker 3: from those things, and you have to be willing to 219 00:09:49,721 --> 00:09:52,361 Speaker 3: take ridicule and people to think that you're silly, you're 220 00:09:52,361 --> 00:09:54,561 Speaker 3: a little different, You're not sitting in the same room 221 00:09:54,601 --> 00:09:57,401 Speaker 3: as all of us. You're willing to stay longer, get early, 222 00:09:57,961 --> 00:10:00,081 Speaker 3: you know, do things a little differently. And I think 223 00:10:00,161 --> 00:10:02,601 Speaker 3: those are the people that I gravitate toward and I'm 224 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:06,281 Speaker 3: passionate about because when you lose, the fear of failing 225 00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:11,161 Speaker 3: comes much stronger. So I think that's something that can 226 00:10:11,201 --> 00:10:14,761 Speaker 3: be cultivated within a corporate environment as a culture, because 227 00:10:14,801 --> 00:10:18,081 Speaker 3: most of the leaders, business leaders, you have an employees 228 00:10:18,361 --> 00:10:20,961 Speaker 3: or base, you know, people that are counting on them 229 00:10:21,041 --> 00:10:25,201 Speaker 3: for guidance and to give them to lead the ship. 230 00:10:25,521 --> 00:10:27,361 Speaker 3: And so I think the culture you want to have 231 00:10:27,441 --> 00:10:30,761 Speaker 3: is where everyone embraces that same perspective, which is it 232 00:10:30,801 --> 00:10:33,441 Speaker 3: may not be fun, but understanding that, hey, we didn't 233 00:10:33,441 --> 00:10:35,801 Speaker 3: succeed here, but we learned a lot and we're going 234 00:10:35,841 --> 00:10:38,001 Speaker 3: to continue to learn as we move forward. And I 235 00:10:38,041 --> 00:10:42,121 Speaker 3: think if that becomes the barometer for success, then you're 236 00:10:42,161 --> 00:10:44,521 Speaker 3: on the right ship. And so I think that's where 237 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:47,161 Speaker 3: all of us are trying to get to at this point. 238 00:10:47,321 --> 00:10:49,321 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you and surrounding yourself with people 239 00:10:49,401 --> 00:10:52,161 Speaker 2: who back you and support you is great. But for me, 240 00:10:52,201 --> 00:10:54,681 Speaker 2: it's always an element of self belief, right because to 241 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:56,601 Speaker 2: your people, right, you've got to have this self. But 242 00:10:57,041 --> 00:10:59,881 Speaker 2: do you feel you've always had that? Like is that 243 00:10:59,961 --> 00:11:02,681 Speaker 2: just been like you were born Drooks, like you know, 244 00:11:03,761 --> 00:11:05,561 Speaker 2: he's always had self belief or is that something you've 245 00:11:05,561 --> 00:11:06,081 Speaker 2: had to learn? 246 00:11:07,081 --> 00:11:09,961 Speaker 3: I think it's inherently. I think it was something that 247 00:11:10,001 --> 00:11:12,001 Speaker 3: you had to learn, And that's something I had to 248 00:11:12,041 --> 00:11:14,521 Speaker 3: learn personally, you know, growing up. It was one of 249 00:11:14,601 --> 00:11:16,281 Speaker 3: those things for me that I've always done think a 250 00:11:16,281 --> 00:11:18,001 Speaker 3: little differently. I beat it to my own. 251 00:11:17,881 --> 00:11:19,201 Speaker 1: Drum, can't imagine it. 252 00:11:19,481 --> 00:11:23,961 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So I'm always I've always been 253 00:11:24,001 --> 00:11:26,321 Speaker 3: a little bit different when it comes to that perspective, 254 00:11:26,361 --> 00:11:28,401 Speaker 3: and I've been fascinating with it. 255 00:11:28,521 --> 00:11:30,081 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wanted to talk you about this because you're 256 00:11:30,121 --> 00:11:32,681 Speaker 2: based in California, right, Yes, yes, so it would be 257 00:11:32,761 --> 00:11:35,001 Speaker 2: when would be one of the places where the most 258 00:11:35,041 --> 00:11:38,041 Speaker 2: pressure to be somebody or to look a certain way 259 00:11:38,121 --> 00:11:41,561 Speaker 2: or to behave a certain way. Right, So how hard 260 00:11:41,681 --> 00:11:43,921 Speaker 2: is it like when you talk about authenticity and I 261 00:11:44,001 --> 00:11:46,961 Speaker 2: know this of you, you're a very loving fun, you know. 262 00:11:47,241 --> 00:11:49,961 Speaker 1: But here's a big question for you. Sure is that 263 00:11:50,481 --> 00:11:51,361 Speaker 1: the authentic you? 264 00:11:51,681 --> 00:11:54,161 Speaker 3: That's a great question. And I think I'm much more 265 00:11:54,161 --> 00:11:56,001 Speaker 3: of an introvert. I'm not an exterpt. You would think 266 00:11:56,001 --> 00:11:58,441 Speaker 3: i'ld be an out loud but that it really drains 267 00:11:58,481 --> 00:12:01,841 Speaker 3: my energy if you could be like an outgoing introvert, right, 268 00:12:01,881 --> 00:12:03,801 Speaker 3: So I need my time to kind of find out 269 00:12:03,961 --> 00:12:07,081 Speaker 3: is that who you are as well? Entirely right, because 270 00:12:07,121 --> 00:12:10,081 Speaker 3: I what happens is that you give so much. Because 271 00:12:10,081 --> 00:12:13,201 Speaker 3: when I'm engaged and we're getting involved in some type 272 00:12:13,241 --> 00:12:16,321 Speaker 3: of an event or some type of business venture or whatever, 273 00:12:16,401 --> 00:12:18,921 Speaker 3: you're all in. Like I'm all in. But I think 274 00:12:19,041 --> 00:12:20,921 Speaker 3: some people are able to kind of manage that where 275 00:12:20,921 --> 00:12:23,521 Speaker 3: they'll give like sixty percent seventy percent of their energy. 276 00:12:23,721 --> 00:12:25,561 Speaker 3: I don't know how to do that. I just go 277 00:12:26,041 --> 00:12:29,241 Speaker 3: one hundred percent in and I'm like everything's going into it. 278 00:12:29,281 --> 00:12:31,361 Speaker 3: But what happens is that I realize, like if I 279 00:12:31,361 --> 00:12:34,361 Speaker 3: don't take time to sit back and recover and find 280 00:12:34,361 --> 00:12:37,921 Speaker 3: my balance, and if I don't take time to do 281 00:12:38,041 --> 00:12:41,241 Speaker 3: those things, that's where I start to have issues. I 282 00:12:41,241 --> 00:12:44,761 Speaker 3: think I lose my creativity, I lose my drive, I 283 00:12:44,801 --> 00:12:46,481 Speaker 3: lose a lot of those things. So I think it's 284 00:12:46,521 --> 00:12:49,241 Speaker 3: important to have time to have balance. And that's where 285 00:12:49,361 --> 00:12:52,401 Speaker 3: I think there's a direct correlation m to in the 286 00:12:52,401 --> 00:12:55,281 Speaker 3: training world that I live in, everyone was so focused 287 00:12:55,321 --> 00:12:57,961 Speaker 3: on performance for so long. Right, there's three pillars in 288 00:12:58,001 --> 00:13:01,161 Speaker 3: my business, which is performance, recovery, and wellness. Those are 289 00:13:01,201 --> 00:13:03,561 Speaker 3: the three pillars. So you sit in one of those 290 00:13:03,601 --> 00:13:05,441 Speaker 3: three pillars, and I think for so long people are 291 00:13:05,481 --> 00:13:08,681 Speaker 3: off performance. If you don't focus on the recovery and 292 00:13:08,721 --> 00:13:11,521 Speaker 3: taking care of yourself and recovering from that training and 293 00:13:11,521 --> 00:13:15,441 Speaker 3: that performance, right, then it directly starts affect your third pillar, 294 00:13:15,481 --> 00:13:17,641 Speaker 3: which is the wellness, which is you just your overall 295 00:13:18,241 --> 00:13:21,041 Speaker 3: health and wellness and my mental and physical health. So 296 00:13:21,641 --> 00:13:24,281 Speaker 3: I think from my standpoint in business and in general, 297 00:13:24,401 --> 00:13:26,561 Speaker 3: we were talking about being those insurants. I need that 298 00:13:27,001 --> 00:13:28,881 Speaker 3: because when I started to find out early in my 299 00:13:28,961 --> 00:13:32,641 Speaker 3: career is that I would push so hard into performance 300 00:13:32,841 --> 00:13:36,721 Speaker 3: and giving that then you have nothing left for recovery 301 00:13:37,201 --> 00:13:40,321 Speaker 3: and this pillar starts to crumble, then your wellness crumbles 302 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:43,161 Speaker 3: as well. So I think balance is something that we 303 00:13:43,241 --> 00:13:45,481 Speaker 3: all find We all have different types of balance and 304 00:13:45,601 --> 00:13:48,881 Speaker 3: levels of balance, but I think it's important that we 305 00:13:49,001 --> 00:13:51,041 Speaker 3: find that part of ourselves that is a balance. And 306 00:13:51,121 --> 00:13:53,441 Speaker 3: I applaud those that could be totally extroverts and they're 307 00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:56,281 Speaker 3: just like they need it. But I definitely need my 308 00:13:56,401 --> 00:13:58,681 Speaker 3: quiet time and my time to reset and find my 309 00:13:58,721 --> 00:13:59,361 Speaker 3: balance again. 310 00:13:59,801 --> 00:14:01,761 Speaker 2: Look, I've got a big smile on my face because 311 00:14:02,121 --> 00:14:04,241 Speaker 2: I find it very had to explain to people. Everyone 312 00:14:04,281 --> 00:14:07,481 Speaker 2: thinks I'm allowed extraver all the time. M's always out 313 00:14:07,481 --> 00:14:09,761 Speaker 2: there and she's always crazy. It's one hundred percent I'm not. 314 00:14:10,041 --> 00:14:12,441 Speaker 2: I You call them my Patagonia days, right, This is 315 00:14:12,441 --> 00:14:13,841 Speaker 2: my name for it, which means I just want to 316 00:14:13,881 --> 00:14:15,681 Speaker 2: move to Patagonia and lie in a field and no 317 00:14:15,721 --> 00:14:17,401 Speaker 2: one talked to me for like two weeks. 318 00:14:17,441 --> 00:14:19,041 Speaker 1: So some days I have those days. 319 00:14:19,081 --> 00:14:20,441 Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you're putting on it? Like 320 00:14:20,481 --> 00:14:21,601 Speaker 3: you have to put on the mask? Like you can 321 00:14:21,601 --> 00:14:23,201 Speaker 3: wear the mask if you have to, you throw on 322 00:14:23,241 --> 00:14:25,881 Speaker 3: the mask. You can be that total high energy like 323 00:14:25,921 --> 00:14:27,841 Speaker 3: I put the mask on. But that mask ares get 324 00:14:27,921 --> 00:14:31,881 Speaker 3: heavy and uncomfortable at a certain point, and I can't imagine. 325 00:14:32,001 --> 00:14:33,681 Speaker 3: I try to liken it to people that, so you 326 00:14:33,681 --> 00:14:35,761 Speaker 3: put a mask on, you wear it, everyone loves it. 327 00:14:36,241 --> 00:14:38,081 Speaker 3: But then when you want to go to sleep, you 328 00:14:38,081 --> 00:14:39,801 Speaker 3: have to wear the mask to there has some color 329 00:14:39,801 --> 00:14:42,361 Speaker 3: of time. We take the mask off and you just 330 00:14:42,441 --> 00:14:43,481 Speaker 3: kind of reset yourself. 331 00:14:43,721 --> 00:14:46,321 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, And I just think that what's 332 00:14:46,321 --> 00:14:48,521 Speaker 2: important for leader is as well is for a lot 333 00:14:48,561 --> 00:14:50,401 Speaker 2: of us there is that mask all the time, like 334 00:14:50,441 --> 00:14:51,961 Speaker 2: you've got to step up, You've got to you know, 335 00:14:52,041 --> 00:14:53,521 Speaker 2: sometimes you're going to show up when you don't want 336 00:14:53,521 --> 00:14:55,801 Speaker 2: to show up. But you're right if you're not taking 337 00:14:55,841 --> 00:15:00,001 Speaker 2: that time out to recover, right, because time's tough, like 338 00:15:00,081 --> 00:15:02,201 Speaker 2: people are time Paul basically right, So when do you 339 00:15:02,241 --> 00:15:04,121 Speaker 2: find this time to recover and do this for you? 340 00:15:04,241 --> 00:15:06,761 Speaker 2: And I have found over the years I have felt 341 00:15:06,761 --> 00:15:10,641 Speaker 2: that level of burnout and lost my creativity at times 342 00:15:10,681 --> 00:15:12,801 Speaker 2: because I'm like, I don't have anything left in the tank. 343 00:15:13,081 --> 00:15:14,681 Speaker 3: You have to fill it up, you have to plan 344 00:15:14,761 --> 00:15:16,161 Speaker 3: it out. If you don't, you're going to run out 345 00:15:16,201 --> 00:15:18,161 Speaker 3: of gas and then you're stuck on the side. 346 00:15:18,481 --> 00:15:20,881 Speaker 2: But this is I think where vulnerability comes in the 347 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:23,921 Speaker 2: right to the play, because what sells or what's interesting 348 00:15:24,001 --> 00:15:26,081 Speaker 2: or what people often admire is the go go, go, 349 00:15:26,081 --> 00:15:26,481 Speaker 2: go go. 350 00:15:26,881 --> 00:15:27,921 Speaker 1: And this is where imposter. 351 00:15:27,681 --> 00:15:29,841 Speaker 2: Syndrome comes in, right, because everyone thinks I can't compete 352 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:31,401 Speaker 2: with that because I can't be that person. I mean, 353 00:15:31,401 --> 00:15:33,441 Speaker 2: there be people out there that think I'm never going 354 00:15:33,521 --> 00:15:35,681 Speaker 2: to be like, well, sure right, and they never will. 355 00:15:35,721 --> 00:15:37,961 Speaker 2: But but you but they'll have this like level where 356 00:15:37,961 --> 00:15:40,201 Speaker 2: they'll go, I can't get there. But actually you've got 357 00:15:40,241 --> 00:15:42,521 Speaker 2: another side to the coin right where you need to 358 00:15:42,721 --> 00:15:43,841 Speaker 2: reboot and ranogize. 359 00:15:44,161 --> 00:15:45,721 Speaker 3: But don't you agreek up that mean with you with 360 00:15:45,761 --> 00:15:47,721 Speaker 3: your friends and the people that you know. I think 361 00:15:47,761 --> 00:15:49,441 Speaker 3: everyone has another side of the coin. It's just how 362 00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:51,961 Speaker 3: well they hide it or how they're willing to express it. 363 00:15:52,121 --> 00:15:54,481 Speaker 3: There's just there's no way, no matter who it is, 364 00:15:54,521 --> 00:15:56,681 Speaker 3: the most high profile person has another side of the coin. 365 00:15:56,761 --> 00:15:59,441 Speaker 3: So I think when you talk about vulnerability, it's much 366 00:15:59,441 --> 00:16:02,201 Speaker 3: more about being honest with yourself, right, And I think 367 00:16:02,241 --> 00:16:05,281 Speaker 3: you cannot be vulnerable unless you're honest. If you're not honest, 368 00:16:05,321 --> 00:16:07,761 Speaker 3: you're not really being vulnerable because you're still hiding. You're 369 00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:10,081 Speaker 3: still hiding you trying to like pretend that you're this 370 00:16:10,241 --> 00:16:12,361 Speaker 3: or that. But you have to be honest that I'm 371 00:16:12,361 --> 00:16:14,841 Speaker 3: not superhuman, that this is who I am. When I go, 372 00:16:14,961 --> 00:16:16,601 Speaker 3: I go, when I go to the best my ability 373 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:18,801 Speaker 3: and I go full throttle. I kick ass teck names. 374 00:16:19,241 --> 00:16:20,641 Speaker 3: But at the same time, there has to come a 375 00:16:20,681 --> 00:16:22,601 Speaker 3: time where you have to reset. And it's not bad, 376 00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:26,361 Speaker 3: it's actually necessary. I don't think it's like natural, like oh, 377 00:16:26,401 --> 00:16:29,361 Speaker 3: it's just your human It's necessary. Every peak performer that 378 00:16:29,361 --> 00:16:33,161 Speaker 3: I've ever been around, elite athletes, elite Olympic athletes, lead 379 00:16:33,161 --> 00:16:37,361 Speaker 3: professional athletes, elite tactical you know, operators from the standpoint 380 00:16:37,361 --> 00:16:40,001 Speaker 3: of military set all the same. They have to recover. 381 00:16:40,721 --> 00:16:42,561 Speaker 3: You know, if they go on like for example, guys 382 00:16:42,561 --> 00:16:45,161 Speaker 3: that are like on seal teams, they'll go on deployment 383 00:16:45,201 --> 00:16:47,841 Speaker 3: and they're intense. When they come back there ghosts. You 384 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:49,761 Speaker 3: cannot find them. They need time alone, they need tell 385 00:16:49,841 --> 00:16:52,721 Speaker 3: to family, they need to times solo. They have to reset. 386 00:16:52,761 --> 00:16:55,041 Speaker 3: That's how we are, that's how we're built. So I 387 00:16:55,081 --> 00:16:58,641 Speaker 3: think this whole culture of just go, go go, I'll 388 00:16:58,681 --> 00:17:01,681 Speaker 3: rest later. I think people equate resting to laziness, and 389 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: it's not resting is to be very thoughtful, mindful of 390 00:17:05,681 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: laziness rest. You have to find an adequate amount of 391 00:17:08,921 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: time and optimal rest in recovery. If you do, then 392 00:17:11,761 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: you'll be able to have a higher quality of performance 393 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,281 Speaker 3: in time that you're training. If that makes sense. 394 00:17:16,441 --> 00:17:18,401 Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to ask you to flashback. 395 00:17:18,481 --> 00:17:19,921 Speaker 2: I don't know how long you need to flash pack, 396 00:17:19,921 --> 00:17:23,681 Speaker 2: but let's go at twenty year old d'arrooke, you're twenty. 397 00:17:23,521 --> 00:17:25,561 Speaker 3: Years old, son of a bitch, that was. 398 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,041 Speaker 1: I'd love to see what that looks like a picture 399 00:17:28,041 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: for me? Do we have do we have less? Hear more? 400 00:17:29,681 --> 00:17:29,801 Speaker 3: Here? 401 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know? 402 00:17:30,681 --> 00:17:33,561 Speaker 3: We have hair back? Then? The hair, all the hair, 403 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: eyes all escaped, they all left, they left the building, 404 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: they ran. I tried to keep them on where they left. 405 00:17:39,041 --> 00:17:40,921 Speaker 2: Well, you're a bit like the rock, right, Like I've 406 00:17:40,921 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: got this vision of the rock like a big loft 407 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,361 Speaker 2: to hair back then, But what's the best advice you would. 408 00:17:46,201 --> 00:17:48,041 Speaker 1: Give twenty year old d'arrook? Right now? 409 00:17:49,001 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: You know, at twenty years old, when you're young, I 410 00:17:51,441 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: think we always gauge ourselves based on our success. And 411 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: like so, I was so definitely afraid of failing or 412 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,161 Speaker 3: not knowing what to do. The advice I would give 413 00:18:02,201 --> 00:18:04,561 Speaker 3: myself back then is it's okay, don't be afraid to 414 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: not know, but keep moving forward. I think progress For me. 415 00:18:07,441 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: I struggled and I got paralyzed a lot of times 416 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,361 Speaker 3: mentally by thinking I'm going to make the wrong decision. 417 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: I think I got paralyzed many times, going I don't 418 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,201 Speaker 3: know what to do, so I'm just not going. 419 00:18:18,201 --> 00:18:21,641 Speaker 1: To do anything so common, so common, right, And I think. 420 00:18:21,481 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: Those are things that we, I mean, people still struggle 421 00:18:24,801 --> 00:18:26,521 Speaker 3: with that now. I mean I think for me, I 422 00:18:26,561 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: would think I would tell myself it's okay not to know, 423 00:18:28,921 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: just as long as you keep going forward. And I 424 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: think another thing I tell myself is if you fail, 425 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: it's good, It's okay you're supposed to, but understand that, 426 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,521 Speaker 3: embrace it with the perspective of you're going to fail, 427 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,041 Speaker 3: you're not going to be great at it, but you 428 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: still want to continue to down that path, keep doing it. 429 00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: If you don't like something great, let's understand it. But 430 00:18:49,201 --> 00:18:52,401 Speaker 3: don't stop something just because you're not good at it. 431 00:18:52,521 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: A couple of last things I want to ask you, 432 00:18:53,921 --> 00:18:55,801 Speaker 2: and one of those is around and it's one of 433 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: the things I love about you. So enjoy, as you know, 434 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,401 Speaker 2: is my business. Joy is a big factor of it, right, 435 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: because life should be fun. Right. I spoke to this 436 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,161 Speaker 2: really interesting lady. Her name is Mets Speakes. She produces 437 00:19:07,201 --> 00:19:08,841 Speaker 2: things like Big Brother and Farmer wants. 438 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,761 Speaker 1: A wife and stuff like that. 439 00:19:10,041 --> 00:19:12,001 Speaker 2: She's really cool, lady, But she said this thing that 440 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,561 Speaker 2: it's our job as leaders of our craft or whatever 441 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: we do, it's our job to make it interesting. And 442 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,761 Speaker 2: I love that, right Like, she believes we should make 443 00:19:20,761 --> 00:19:23,321 Speaker 2: it interesting, make it fun. Like where does joy come 444 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: into the stuff that you do? 445 00:19:24,281 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: Like? 446 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Why is it so obviously important to you? 447 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,521 Speaker 2: Right? Like, you're not this super serious, don't smile, don't 448 00:19:29,561 --> 00:19:30,001 Speaker 2: bring joy? 449 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,801 Speaker 1: Like where does the joy that come from? 450 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:34,401 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because you told me just now 451 00:19:35,241 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 3: that lady had said to you that it's our job 452 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: to make it interesting for me in fitness and movement, 453 00:19:41,761 --> 00:19:46,041 Speaker 3: I try to not overcomplicate it because in my industry 454 00:19:46,281 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: people try to overcomplicate. That's how the industry, my industry 455 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 3: works and generates revenue. Is that let me try the 456 00:19:50,921 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: new thing. This is how you do it, and you 457 00:19:53,521 --> 00:19:55,281 Speaker 3: have to learn this. You have to learn that, and 458 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,801 Speaker 3: you want to be a student of the game. Don't 459 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,921 Speaker 3: get me wrong, but the joy of moving is such 460 00:19:59,921 --> 00:20:02,441 Speaker 3: a blessing because so many people can't write, and as 461 00:20:02,441 --> 00:20:04,241 Speaker 3: you get older, people go I wish I could just 462 00:20:04,281 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: walk around it out her. So the joy of moving 463 00:20:06,961 --> 00:20:09,561 Speaker 3: is really just to demystify it and say, hey, listen, 464 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,561 Speaker 3: don't overcomplicate it. And if anything, that's where I try 465 00:20:12,561 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: to embrace life. If you're just moving around every day, 466 00:20:14,761 --> 00:20:16,761 Speaker 3: they're good to go. You don't have to do my training. 467 00:20:16,801 --> 00:20:20,161 Speaker 3: You can do whatever you love, yoga, pilates, but do something. 468 00:20:20,241 --> 00:20:22,321 Speaker 3: And that aligns with what we just talked about. From 469 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: the perspective of what would you tell your twenty year 470 00:20:24,241 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: old self, it's just keep moving, keep moving forward, and 471 00:20:27,481 --> 00:20:30,281 Speaker 3: keep moving every day. Some days are better than others. 472 00:20:30,801 --> 00:20:35,441 Speaker 3: But I think that our job in our industry is 473 00:20:35,521 --> 00:20:39,161 Speaker 3: always to get people to go to try to move 474 00:20:39,201 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: forward right, brave always, and bravery is not the absence 475 00:20:43,721 --> 00:20:48,561 Speaker 3: of fear. Is the existence of fear and still going forward. 476 00:20:49,441 --> 00:20:51,921 Speaker 3: Fear has to exist in order to be brave. If 477 00:20:51,921 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: there's nothing to be scared of, there's no reason to 478 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,521 Speaker 3: be brave. So in order to be brave, we have 479 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: to do that. So I think it's important for us 480 00:20:58,961 --> 00:21:01,881 Speaker 3: that we get people moving. Some people are out there 481 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,521 Speaker 3: and go, how am I going to get back into shape? 482 00:21:03,561 --> 00:21:05,561 Speaker 3: How am I going to do this? To fall off 483 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,561 Speaker 3: the bus? As long as you're brave, fears good, you're 484 00:21:08,561 --> 00:21:10,721 Speaker 3: going to need that in order to get want to go. 485 00:21:11,241 --> 00:21:14,801 Speaker 3: So it's a necessary component of the process. And I 486 00:21:14,801 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: think for us as leaders in different areas of business, 487 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: it's important to let people know it's okay to be scared, 488 00:21:21,761 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: it's okay to be uncertain, it's okay to have doubt, 489 00:21:25,441 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: because without that you're not going to be able to succeed. 490 00:21:27,801 --> 00:21:30,321 Speaker 2: Was there ever an opportunity then that came upon your 491 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: life where you wish you'd be more brave and taken it? 492 00:21:32,761 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: You know? Interesting, when I was younger, I wished I 493 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: would have traveled more. I think travel is one I 494 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: wish I was open more to doing things that I 495 00:21:41,921 --> 00:21:44,321 Speaker 3: wasn't great at because I think now I would appreciate 496 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: if I was better at them now, even more so 497 00:21:46,561 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: than travel. It's just going back and you're really a 498 00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:50,561 Speaker 3: lot of the things that real poigtant questions are asking 499 00:21:50,561 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 3: because they're triggering me to think about different things. And 500 00:21:53,441 --> 00:21:55,121 Speaker 3: I think, which is great, which is why you're great 501 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 3: at what you do. But I think for me it's 502 00:21:57,481 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: much more about, you know, looking back, the regrets I 503 00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: have are my inability to stay consistent and discipline with 504 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: things that were hard, and I wasn't good at because 505 00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:11,521 Speaker 3: looking back, I wish I had that context or those 506 00:22:11,521 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: skill based things that I would have gathered if I 507 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,001 Speaker 3: just would have tried it and not been afraid of 508 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,401 Speaker 3: not looking great at it, not being good at it, 509 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: worrying about what other people say. That's another thing. I 510 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: think that is one of the hardest things. We're so 511 00:22:24,681 --> 00:22:28,721 Speaker 3: driven by our peers in our communities that they can 512 00:22:28,761 --> 00:22:33,321 Speaker 3: inhibit us, right, because we tend to project fear to 513 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,401 Speaker 3: others that are inside ourselves. So don't do it. Don't 514 00:22:36,441 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: try it in because that could be bad, you know, like, 515 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: can I get it? But if you have conviction and 516 00:22:40,921 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: that's what you want to do, a better route is 517 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: that that is that sounds kind of scary. But if 518 00:22:44,961 --> 00:22:46,561 Speaker 3: that's what you want to do, do you think that you 519 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,001 Speaker 3: want to try it? That's awesome. Fuck, I got your back, 520 00:22:49,041 --> 00:22:52,321 Speaker 3: that's rat right, And I think growing up I didn't 521 00:22:52,321 --> 00:22:54,761 Speaker 3: necessarily always have that around me, so it was kind 522 00:22:54,761 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: of like, you know, what if I fail, what if 523 00:22:56,521 --> 00:22:59,001 Speaker 3: I drop the ball? And I think those are things 524 00:22:59,041 --> 00:23:01,721 Speaker 3: that looking back, those are the times that I doubted 525 00:23:01,801 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: myself and I think I look back and I go, man, 526 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: But you learn from them right. So I don't regret 527 00:23:05,961 --> 00:23:08,521 Speaker 3: any of that those things, but I think that is 528 00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:10,921 Speaker 3: the thing is and I try to you know, stand 529 00:23:10,921 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: that in into my kids, and I also try to 530 00:23:14,321 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: express that to anyone I work with. Is that you know, 531 00:23:17,321 --> 00:23:19,041 Speaker 3: whenever you go and I'm sure being a leader in 532 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: what you do, there's people around you. I might always 533 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: want to try this, but I'm a little scared. I 534 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm really good at it, and what 535 00:23:25,961 --> 00:23:28,041 Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out? Right? But what if it does? 536 00:23:28,281 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: No one ever talks about what if it does? They 537 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: always want to tell people if not, just be prepared 538 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,521 Speaker 3: for it might not work out and you're going to fail, 539 00:23:34,561 --> 00:23:36,161 Speaker 3: it's going to be horrible. Then what right? 540 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,961 Speaker 2: And this is I guess why I'm so passionate about 541 00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: the space, because I imagine a world where leaders of 542 00:23:41,801 --> 00:23:44,201 Speaker 2: organizations and large organizations had this mindset. 543 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,681 Speaker 1: We would all be trying and failing but learning. 544 00:23:47,321 --> 00:23:50,281 Speaker 2: You know, like the greater the turmoil, the greater the growth, right, 545 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: And it is something I only learned sort of, you know, 546 00:23:52,761 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: getting close to my forties, to be honest, where I 547 00:23:54,961 --> 00:23:57,441 Speaker 2: was like, when you're going through that challenge, that pain, 548 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: those failures, what you come out the other side, is 549 00:24:00,561 --> 00:24:01,521 Speaker 2: nothing compares to it. 550 00:24:01,801 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just standing still. 551 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,761 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I think generational when we grow up, that 552 00:24:05,921 --> 00:24:08,521 Speaker 2: wasn't always the message that we were given. Right, and 553 00:24:08,561 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: so I get it. But all we can do is 554 00:24:10,281 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: I love how you've used that though, so then I 555 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,681 Speaker 2: can see why you're so disciplined now, right, Yeah, you know, now, 556 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,401 Speaker 2: just keep going. 557 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: It's going to get there. I'm going to get there. 558 00:24:17,921 --> 00:24:18,921 Speaker 1: I love that, and I think. 559 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,801 Speaker 3: But that's like I said, and those are the little things, right, 560 00:24:20,801 --> 00:24:23,161 Speaker 3: getting up early and doing this stuff and training, even 561 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,721 Speaker 3: the cool water verge, all those things that I gravitate toward, 562 00:24:25,801 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: because it's just the days that I'm like, man, that 563 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: was hard to do. I don't want to do it, yea, 564 00:24:31,001 --> 00:24:33,321 Speaker 3: because if you got to look back the day after 565 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,041 Speaker 3: that and go yesterday, I was a piece of shit. 566 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like doing it. I didn't feel like 567 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,401 Speaker 3: going anywhere, and I feel like getting up. I got 568 00:24:39,441 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: I got it done. You get a sense of empowerment 569 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 3: from that. 570 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,161 Speaker 1: I won't lie. 571 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: I've had that, and I try and deny it, but 572 00:24:44,961 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: I've got out of bed some mornings and push. I mean, 573 00:24:47,201 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm not jumping into cold plunges. But like even just 574 00:24:49,681 --> 00:24:52,921 Speaker 2: going for my half our walk, there are days where 575 00:24:52,921 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: I get back and I go damn, like I know 576 00:24:55,561 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: I do. 577 00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:58,721 Speaker 1: I feel heaps better. It's not just the physical. It's 578 00:24:58,721 --> 00:25:00,521 Speaker 1: a mental discipline that I pushed through. 579 00:25:00,761 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: Its metal. I think that's where one thing is focus 580 00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: on the it's not. It's like, you've got to get 581 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,561 Speaker 3: your that's going right. Even at work, you know how 582 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,761 Speaker 3: it is. You're just like I do not want to 583 00:25:09,761 --> 00:25:12,161 Speaker 3: be here today at the office. I don't want this work. 584 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,401 Speaker 3: I don't want to go to these meetings. I don't 585 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: want to take these calls. I don't want to deal 586 00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:16,481 Speaker 3: with these clients. I don't want to deal with my employees. 587 00:25:17,521 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: But you've got to find a way to make the 588 00:25:19,801 --> 00:25:23,681 Speaker 3: shitty days good days, because then the good days will 589 00:25:23,721 --> 00:25:25,481 Speaker 3: become amazing, epic. 590 00:25:25,281 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: Days that people don't link. Make the shitty days good days. 591 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: Push through and do it anyway and see how that feels. 592 00:25:31,441 --> 00:25:32,561 Speaker 2: I think that's great advice. 593 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So I want to 594 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: ask you this for all the people that think they. 595 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,721 Speaker 2: Know darrul right, everyone who follows you and does your moves, 596 00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:43,561 Speaker 2: what's one thing about you something you love even right 597 00:25:43,801 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: that would completely surprise people. 598 00:25:46,281 --> 00:25:48,281 Speaker 3: I'm pretty out there, you know. Like I said, I like, 599 00:25:48,321 --> 00:25:49,841 Speaker 3: it's so funny, Like can I just say this word 600 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,881 Speaker 3: real quick? So when I did Center, they're like, hey, 601 00:25:52,921 --> 00:25:55,241 Speaker 3: I go listen. I'm going to talk about I love donuts. 602 00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: And they're like listen. They sat me down. You're like, 603 00:25:57,721 --> 00:26:01,281 Speaker 3: you cannot do that because you're a trainer and you're 604 00:26:01,281 --> 00:26:04,761 Speaker 3: supposed to be you can't do that, and so they 605 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,961 Speaker 3: have very hard to heart serious talk. And then I 606 00:26:07,001 --> 00:26:09,641 Speaker 3: was like, I got it. I totally understand. I got 607 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,801 Speaker 3: to be inspirational and I can't. Can't say a parrot 608 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: sticks and I get it. As soon as I got on, 609 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,201 Speaker 3: I was like, donuts, dude, eat them all day long. 610 00:26:18,681 --> 00:26:21,201 Speaker 3: Dozn't of them? And I think it's for me. It's 611 00:26:21,241 --> 00:26:23,321 Speaker 3: like you get to a certain age where you just 612 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,121 Speaker 3: you just throw it out I don't give a shit. 613 00:26:25,281 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: You just don't give a shit anymore. You just like 614 00:26:27,041 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: you just throw it out there. And it's like so 615 00:26:28,521 --> 00:26:32,321 Speaker 3: liberating when you're just like whatever, Like for me, like 616 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,761 Speaker 3: I never been one to feel bad looking stupid. So 617 00:26:35,801 --> 00:26:38,521 Speaker 3: if you're not afraid to look stupid, then you're kind 618 00:26:38,521 --> 00:26:40,481 Speaker 3: of just like you can do anything. 619 00:26:40,481 --> 00:26:41,281 Speaker 1: You've been doing anything. 620 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,561 Speaker 2: You heard it first here on my podcast that why 621 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: don't you know you heard it on Center. But I 622 00:26:45,001 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: do love the fact that you've admitted that you can 623 00:26:46,481 --> 00:26:48,441 Speaker 2: be the fittest man in the planet and love donuts. 624 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: I love that they're like and then people are like, hey, listen, 625 00:26:51,441 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: I don't like beer. I'm like, really, wow, I'm sorry, 626 00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:56,521 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, I just for me, It's like, 627 00:26:56,961 --> 00:26:59,281 Speaker 3: just be realistic, don't have to like hide it the 628 00:26:59,321 --> 00:27:01,161 Speaker 3: fact that that's who you are and what you want 629 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,761 Speaker 3: enjoy life. Just find your balance right and do the 630 00:27:04,761 --> 00:27:07,401 Speaker 3: hard shit so that you can appreciate the ship that's 631 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,401 Speaker 3: fun and easy. It's like, that's just kind of who 632 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: I am. So but question, I'm going to actually think 633 00:27:11,441 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: about that. I have to come back to you for 634 00:27:12,441 --> 00:27:13,401 Speaker 3: the next episode. 635 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want to. I want to hear I 636 00:27:15,001 --> 00:27:15,721 Speaker 1: reckon you can tell. 637 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,761 Speaker 2: You or something, and I'll be like, I'm just gonna 638 00:27:18,761 --> 00:27:20,561 Speaker 2: say it's okay for you to have that you dance 639 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: around to Mowana or Frozen like, it's okay. 640 00:27:24,281 --> 00:27:25,121 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 641 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,321 Speaker 2: And I honestly hope that your mindset around letting people 642 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: know that it's okay to fail to push through, that 643 00:27:32,201 --> 00:27:35,001 Speaker 2: what you're trying to do isn't just about looking beautiful 644 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: or sexy or strong. It's also about pushing your mental limits, 645 00:27:38,921 --> 00:27:40,161 Speaker 2: about looking after your health. 646 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: Like, I love that angle of it. 647 00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:43,481 Speaker 2: So I love what you do, and I hope you 648 00:27:43,521 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: can spread that more around the US and come back 649 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:47,961 Speaker 2: over to OZ and spread a bit more back here. 650 00:27:48,241 --> 00:27:49,081 Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go. 651 00:27:49,281 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Thank sure, awesome, Well, thank you for coming on. 652 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:53,921 Speaker 3: I appreciate you.