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Speaker 1: Good, our team, Welcome to another installment of the You Project. Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: Are you all right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, harps, I am very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: What's going on over there at fucking cook Central?

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Speaker 2: So same old just scooting around in the mood boot

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Speaker 2: For most part I get to take it off and

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Speaker 2: punch things a little bit now, which is great.

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Speaker 3: What's the typical pain barometer?

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Speaker 1: Because it was a couple of weeks ago, it was

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Speaker 1: about fifteen out of ten and you're crying like a

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Speaker 1: four year old?

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Speaker 3: What you are? The tears diminished somewhat? Are you okay?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just occasionally rolling down one cheek frustration, but just.

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Speaker 1: A pathetic tear, just dribbling down one cheek. Well, you're

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Speaker 1: a gangster and so we wish you were speedy recovery.

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Speaker 1: So you secured today's guest. You said he wasn't that great,

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Speaker 1: but he was available. You didn't say anything like that,

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Speaker 1: you said he's fucking awesome. You know, when you're getting

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Speaker 1: someone on the show, you go and do a bit

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Speaker 1: of research and I'm like, well, what research do I

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Speaker 1: need to do?

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Speaker 3: Because I've loved him and watched him. I'm afar forever.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I know everything, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: with some people, like we had Tracy bartramon yesterday or

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Speaker 1: the day before, who goes way back, and most people

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Speaker 1: love Tracy and know of Tracy and Hughesy. I feel

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Speaker 1: you can probably at the moment times that by ten.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, for our overseas listeners, I'm going to say this.

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Speaker 1: Our Australian listeners know Hughesy, but our overseas listeners, of

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Speaker 1: which is about twenty percent of our audience. So Hughesy

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Speaker 1: is he's an icon in Australia. He won't say that,

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Speaker 1: but I will because he's far too humble and self deprecating.

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Speaker 1: But he's a comedian. He's done a little bit of acting.

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Speaker 1: It was fucking horrible. I'll give you the tip. He's

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Speaker 1: a radio star, he's a TV star, he's a host,

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Speaker 1: he's a dad. He is a bogan and we love

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Speaker 1: all of that shit. And if you don't know what

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Speaker 1: a bogan is, a bogan is kind of he's not

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Speaker 1: really a bogan, but he's a bit Boganesque. Like myself.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the bush. He grew up in

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Speaker 1: the bush. Tiff grew up in Tasmania. That's the bush.

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Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of that about all three

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Speaker 3: of us. Husy, thanks for coming on to you.

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Speaker 4: Projectif it's great to be here, and yeah, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the intro, and note I will accept the icon status, mate,

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Speaker 4: I'm not that humble.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I'm thinking, I argue David William Hughes

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Speaker 5: aka a magic hair he told us before Stiff, can

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Speaker 5: you get a good screenshot of his hair at some

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Speaker 5: stage through the thing, because we need that for the promo.

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Speaker 3: He's telling us how awesome his hair was.

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Speaker 4: But I'm only saying that because I spent many years

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Speaker 4: I look back on photos of me with really short

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Speaker 4: hair thinking why aren't I, you know, making the most

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Speaker 4: of a natural assets. Like some people, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of men lose their hair young, or they lose their

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Speaker 4: hair when they're thirty or forty or fifty. I just

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Speaker 4: turned fifty and it's as growing, as strong and as

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Speaker 4: lustrous as ever, and I'm going to make the most

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nothing if not fucking vibrant and prolific. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how how sexy it is or how styled

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Speaker 1: it is, but let's just go with there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of it, mate, so good for you. But I know

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Speaker 1: I don't look like it. But my hair goes. My

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Speaker 1: hair's like yours, except that grows in thirty seven directions.

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Speaker 1: So people think I've been bored for twenty years. I'm

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Speaker 1: not baled. My old man's eighty one. He's got hair

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Speaker 1: like a fucking yetty, and my hair grows like crazy.

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Speaker 3: But it's just out of control. But I think with

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Speaker 3: a little bit of product shocking.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually shocked by that me like everyone else would

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Speaker 4: assume that you're.

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Speaker 3: Ball, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Well, give it a go, let it hang out, Let's

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Speaker 4: see a new you.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, let's change it up. Why wouldn't you

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Speaker 6: change it up? You don't have to do the same

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Speaker 6: thing every day.

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Speaker 1: I've been coached by Dave Hughes. I feel kind of privileged.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to send me a bill?

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Speaker 5: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Dear?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny though, how we get into I don't know this,

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Speaker 1: this groove where I've been shaved my head since I

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Speaker 1: used to stand on nightclub doors one hundred years ago

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Speaker 1: Hughsey and get punched in the face for ten dollars

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Speaker 1: an hour, right, and so it's been a but it's

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Speaker 1: just been a standard.

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Speaker 3: I reckon.

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Speaker 1: I've had twenty pairs of clippers, and probably every Monday

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Speaker 1: fortnight I clip in my hair. I put on a

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Speaker 1: I should have probably been in the military because I'm

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Speaker 1: built for it, but I've let it grow out.

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Speaker 3: If have you ever seen it long, I've.

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Speaker 2: Seen it with a little bit of hair. I mean

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Speaker 2: you had a little bit of hair when you yeah

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Speaker 2: that photo with your mom.

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Speaker 3: I put up this photo. This is terrible, fucking I

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Speaker 3: was going to say it's terrible radio. We're not on

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Speaker 3: the radio. But just just for Hughes's benefit, can you

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Speaker 3: see that or hang on?

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Speaker 4: Let me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got like about three mili. Yeah, that's not true.

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Speaker 3: Have a look.

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Speaker 2: Looks HAPs you look like you get a pan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It just goes everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And I have to think.

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Speaker 4: You just put up a photo of you looking like

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Speaker 4: Krusty the Clown. Maybe half an inch there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like to fucking hell City on Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 4: If you have a mirror, you're joint after the town

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Speaker 4: Side Joe Bill.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the hair.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the face.

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Speaker 1: You're a funny man, So I don't want to ask

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Speaker 1: you all the boring shit, But give us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about Dave.

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Speaker 3: Who's the six year old, eight year old, ten year old?

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Speaker 3: Where'd you grow up? What was it like? You don't

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Speaker 3: have to give us the cliche stuff.

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Speaker 1: I feel like someone like you, who's been interviewed a

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Speaker 1: thousand times, I want to not have that conversation. But also,

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Speaker 1: most of our audience won't know the answer to these questions.

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Speaker 1: So fair enough, let's go where'd you grow up?

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Speaker 3: What was it like? What were you good at? What

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Speaker 4: Grew up in a country town, a place called Warnable.

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Speaker 4: At a time, probably twenty thousand people lived in the town.

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Speaker 4: One of the youngest of four children, my oldest. My

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Speaker 4: twin sisters are three and a half years older than me.

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Speaker 4: My brother is a year and a half older than me.

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Speaker 4: So in a commission house, look a humble abode. Dad

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Speaker 4: was a factory worker, Mum was a nurse. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you know, I dreamed of having Nike. You know,

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Speaker 4: the cliche. I dreamed of having added ass and Nike

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Speaker 4: You know, my kids now just lose their nights and

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Speaker 6: Unbelievable. So yeah, I went to a.

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Speaker 4: Well Catholics, you know back when people went to church,

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Speaker 4: thought I was going to be a priest.

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Speaker 6: I mean she was wrong.

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Speaker 4: But so I went to Catholic primary school, you know,

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Speaker 4: I did all that stuff, you know, church every Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Went to a CBC Catholic as secondary school. Basically because

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Speaker 4: I was I was scared of girls, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I think they were laughing at me.

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Speaker 3: I was so.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't like being laughed at back then. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I did dream of being an athlete, and that

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Speaker 4: an athlete, you know that every night, dreaming about playing

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Speaker 4: Test cricket or winning Wimbledon, or you know winning AFL

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Speaker 4: Grand finals and footy or you know, just sports, sports, sport.

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Speaker 4: I remember Maradonna died the other day, obviously a legend.

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Speaker 4: And I clearly remember the nineteen eighty six World Cup

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Speaker 4: I was just sport obsessed as a young person.

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Speaker 1: What was the thing that what was the one thing

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Speaker 1: been good at, but was the thing you were best

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Speaker 3: What might it have been?

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Speaker 4: It might have been Aussie rule was Yeah, so I was. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was a good country footballer, and you know I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew that dream was over at the age

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Speaker 4: of twenty four, to be honest, when I was jogging

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Speaker 4: Captain of the club jogged a lat with me and said,

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Speaker 4: He did, and I was I was doing comedy at

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Speaker 4: you know, being getting injured in footy on Saturday was

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Speaker 4: probably not good for trying to get on stage on

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Speaker 4: a sad day. I've had one injury story involving the

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Speaker 4: adrenaline of being on stage.

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Speaker 6: This was a Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I'd played a game I think on a Sunday and

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Speaker 4: above sort of horizontal basically. So I went on stage

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Speaker 4: that night and I said, guys, I played footy today

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Speaker 6: Look how far I can lift my arm.

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Speaker 4: And I went to lift my arm and went right

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Speaker 4: point made you. I realized how much adrenaline you have

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Speaker 4: when you're on stage. It was just the injury had

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Speaker 6: That was interesting.

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Speaker 1: timetable or whatever? Or where's your where's the where's your presentation?

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Speaker 1: And I say it's in my head. And they they

442
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Speaker 1: panic because they're so used to everything being very scripted

443
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Speaker 1: and planned and choreographed. And I say, how can I

444
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: pre plan a conversation with people I've never met?

445
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Speaker 3: Right? And I know my shit, right, so I know

446
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Speaker 3: what I'm going to tell.

447
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to go and learn new stuff for today.

448
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: This is what I talk about all the time.

449
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Speaker 6: So it's inside you.

450
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Speaker 4: So's and you tell them stories that you believe in.

451
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 4: So you need to read them off a piece of

452
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Speaker 4: paper because there's they're your stories.

453
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Speaker 3: But you can.

454
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Speaker 1: You can read a room, right, You know if something's

455
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Speaker 1: working or not working. You know if you're connecting or disconnecting.

456
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: You know if people are engaged or not. But you

457
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: can't when you go in with something I think that's

458
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Speaker 1: pre set, prescripted, predetermined for me. Anyway, it's the worst

459
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Speaker 1: way to work because I feel like I'm unplugged from

460
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Speaker 1: the humans, you know, I feel like I'm doing this

461
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Speaker 1: choreograph thing that isn't me and I feel like a fraud.

462
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work, but it nearly always works.

463
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Speaker 1: If I just go in and I go, well, I'm

464
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Speaker 1: going to talk about resilience. I'm going to talk about metacognition,

465
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Speaker 1: which is thinking about thinking, and talk about a bit

466
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Speaker 1: about physiology, and talk about beliefs, and I'm going to

467
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Speaker 1: talk about these eight things. Reset go and then I go.

468
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Speaker 1: I walk in and I go, put up your hand.

469
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Speaker 1: If you're an overthinker, and every hand goes up, and

470
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Speaker 1: I've got instant engagement.

471
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Speaker 3: Put up your hand.

472
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Speaker 1: If you put up your hand, if you got in

473
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Speaker 1: shape and then got fat, every hand goes you know.

474
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Speaker 1: And so it's if I can get hands up and

475
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Speaker 1: people laughing or nodding, and I've got connection in the

476
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Speaker 1: first thirty seconds, we're good.

477
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Speaker 3: And then you just go from there.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you've done the work. You're not

479
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: a fraud. You've lived it. And so that's and they

480
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Speaker 4: will sense that as well. So that's why you don't

481
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Speaker 4: need the scripts, because you've got it all inside you.

482
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Speaker 4: So yeah, but for me, and again, never a script,

483
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Speaker 4: never read off on autoqu ever. But yeah, but have

484
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Speaker 4: the stories inside me and have them ready because I've

485
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Speaker 4: lived them and I know them.

486
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Speaker 6: And I trust them.

487
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Speaker 1: I did some stuff for a few years on the

488
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Speaker 1: David Kimshell and Channel ten on the Morning Show or

489
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Speaker 1: whatever it was called, and they're like, at the start,

490
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Speaker 1: I got asked to go in and be interviewed about something.

491
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Speaker 1: So I just went and did a gig and then

492
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Speaker 1: they then the executive producer asked me to go see

493
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Speaker 1: her after the show. Anyway, so they said do you

494
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Speaker 1: want to come back next week? Because that was great,

495
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Speaker 1: I went short, came back, and then the next week

496
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Speaker 1: they went, do you want to be a regular? So anyway,

497
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Speaker 1: I ended up being a regular for a few years.

498
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Speaker 1: But what they wanted to do, they wanted to They

499
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Speaker 1: wanted me to send all the questquestions that they wanted

500
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: that I wanted asked about this topic, or they're like,

501
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: do you want us to I go, I don't want

502
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Speaker 1: any of that.

503
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 3: I go, please don't do that. Let's just sit on

504
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Speaker 3: the couch and have a conversation.

505
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: About like if we're talking about resilience, let's just talk.

506
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Speaker 3: I go because if I have.

507
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Speaker 1: To remember what they're going to ask me, or if

508
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: I have to kind of come up with some pre

509
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: organized answer, it's I'm going to be terrible because I'm

510
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: shit at that. But what I'm good at is just

511
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Speaker 1: talking to humans about whatever. And so they were quite

512
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: and I did a couple of outside broadcasts from a

513
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: few places with people and stuff, and they wanted to

514
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Speaker 1: be scripted and they wanted auto Q and all this,

515
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Speaker 1: and I go.

516
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Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm just just let me do it once without it

518
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: and then if I'm terrible, either get rid of me

519
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: or I'll do you know, if I'm shit, get rid

520
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: of me, or I'll do the AUTOQ. And they went, well,

521
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: that was good. So yeah, but I had to fight

522
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Speaker 1: to be so that I could just do my thing. Now,

523
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Speaker 1: this is what I do all the time. It's just

524
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Speaker 1: that there's a camera on at the moment.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and it's a look, yeah, I mean that's

526
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: I hear you, and yeah, I'm with you on that.

527
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: So and it can be frustrating being on TV when

528
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: you do have producers wanting you to ask the exact

529
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Speaker 4: questions that they've written or you know, like that's sort

530
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Speaker 4: of yeah, it's a you don't want to be corralled.

531
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Speaker 4: That's part of the reason I left the project, to

532
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Speaker 4: be honest, is that sort of desire to have everything

533
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Speaker 4: in a neat little box, and there's not enough room

534
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Speaker 4: to spread your wings, I suppose.

535
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Speaker 1: So I think that's why one of the reasons that

536
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that.

537
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Speaker 3: Podcasts have proliferated.

538
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Speaker 1: And of course, like any other product or service, there

539
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: are good podcasts and shit ones and okay ones and

540
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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan at the far end of the scale, but

541
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Speaker 1: rogans or do you.

542
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Speaker 3: Have a listener Rogan?

543
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

544
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Speaker 1: So he's always talking about as you would know, he's

545
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Speaker 1: talking about comedy and writing and the skill and the

546
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: craft and you know, the organic nature of this and that.

547
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Speaker 1: But he also talks about the freedom that comes with

548
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, you and I don't need to go to

549
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: a break. We don't need to do a station idea

550
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: or a time check or a weather check, or we're

551
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: not throwing to the news or you can and we

552
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: can talk for thirty three minutes or fucking two hours

553
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: and ten minutes, and we could talk about whatever we

554
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: want and nobody's standing in front of you waving hands

555
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: or going we've.

556
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 3: Got to go to a break or fucking all that shit.

557
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Speaker 6: Right, I went on to TV and say I don't

558
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Speaker 6: want to get back to the project. But that was

559
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Speaker 6: my real.

560
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Speaker 4: Example of you know, you've got producers in your ear

561
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Speaker 4: who are just spending half the time panicking. So you've

562
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: got someone yelling at you, and your like, I've done this.

563
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: I did this joke at the Logans one night.

564
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Speaker 6: I remember that. It was a true story where I'm

565
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Speaker 6: halfway through a sentence.

566
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Speaker 4: And I hear someone in my yell out stop speaking,

567
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's going to sound like I've.

568
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Speaker 6: Had a stroke if I stopped speaking.

569
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: Now, I mean, I'm literally halfway through a sentence. But

570
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Speaker 4: I think on the night, my eyes just went crazy.

571
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Speaker 4: You know, I just sort of shut down. People would

572
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Speaker 4: have think I was I was, you know, I had

573
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Speaker 4: a medical condition.

574
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Speaker 1: But only someone who's never been in front of a

575
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Speaker 1: mic or camera would screen that in you.

576
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Speaker 6: But I understand they're panicking.

577
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: Is I think they've got to go to an ad

578
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: break and yeah, so but yeah, no, it's crazy.

579
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 6: It can me crazy.

580
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: So do you have a Rogan talks all the time

581
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Speaker 1: about his the way that he writes and the way

582
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: that he kind of develops material.

583
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: Do you have a specific process or does shit just.

584
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: You write notes down in my you know, just in

585
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: my phone or in the notes section of my phone.

586
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 4: I just write stuff down that comes up. You know,

587
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: I have a look now, just what am I reading?

588
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: You know, I was on a plane yesterday.

589
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Speaker 6: This is just so.

590
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Speaker 4: I don't know this will ever become anything, but I

591
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: was on a plane yesterday. I'm happily married and you know,

592
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: not going to ever cheat. But there was an attractive

593
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Speaker 4: flight attendant. You know, it's just but then she spent

594
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: an expended period of time in the bathroom and just

595
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: do all the romance. When goodness she gone before she

596
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Speaker 4: got on the plane.

597
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that about? What's that about? Gail?

598
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: So when did you stop eating meat? Tell us a

599
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: little bit about that, because I'm interested in that.

600
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Speaker 6: I stopped eating meat. I became a pescatarian many years ago.

601
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: I think, I, look, I've got a history of bow

602
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: cancer in the family. So my mum's had bow cancer,

603
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: and you know, there's quite a history of it. I

604
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: think I read years ago that meat could be a

605
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: factor in causing bow cancer. So I thought, well, I

606
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: might stop eating meat, you know, and just because I

607
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: don't want to get bow cancer.

608
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Speaker 6: So that was many years ago, and didn't really miss it.

609
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 6: That much. It was a pescatarian ate a lot of fish.

610
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Speaker 4: I'd have fish with every meal, basically a lot of

611
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: dairy about a year, just over a year ago. I

612
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: mean you might have watched it, and I'm not saying

613
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 4: it's perfect, but the game changes doco that was on Netflix,

614
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: and that made me think about how store I was getting.

615
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: I love exercising, I said, just turned fifty the other day,

616
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Speaker 4: and I love running and I have for many years,

617
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: but I get so sore the last fifteen years or

618
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: I can you go for a run and then put

619
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: hardly walk the next day, struggling to get down the

620
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: stairs as when you wake up and on the dock.

621
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Speaker 4: I was saying that, you know you don't get a sore,

622
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: and you know what, I'm going to give that a go,

623
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Speaker 4: and I swear to god, I'm a year later and

624
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: I do not get sought at.

625
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 6: All when I exercised crazy. I can.

626
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Around the tan the other day, which is just under

627
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Speaker 4: four k run in fifteen forty seven and just don't get.

628
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Speaker 6: Sore at all. It's not at all. It's unbelievable.

629
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Speaker 1: That's pretty quick, dude. That's four minute k's. That's averaging

630
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: fifteen kilometers an hour. That's for your fifty year old self. Congratulations,

631
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm making fifty.

632
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

633
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: So, without being too boring, but give us a and

634
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Speaker 1: I know it probably varies, but give us a typical

635
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: day of what goes in your god from when you

636
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: get up to when you go to bed, or just

637
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: just a version because people right now are going, I'm

638
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: sore too.

639
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Speaker 6: What is Hughes the well Birchu musical? This morning?

640
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: With coconut milk, you know, with fruits like you know,

641
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: blueberries and strawberries and.

642
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: Rock melon.

643
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: That's we say breakfast, you know, Lunch might have avocado

644
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: on toast or something like that. And dinner try to

645
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: get a salad in. And you know, I am you know,

646
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: I'm probably eating too much of that sort of process

647
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: and meat meat sort of thing, you know what I mean,

648
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 4: that's not processed non meat. I wonder about it. I

649
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: know it's a lot. It's everywhere now, you know, fake meat,

650
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean. So I wonder whether

651
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Speaker 4: that's any good for me. I ate quite a bit

652
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: of that, but yeah, so is.

653
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Speaker 3: That where you get? Is that where you get?

654
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Because all the buffheads listening all my bullfed bodybuild a.

655
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: Weightlifter powerlifter mates. So listening going, what do you get

656
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: your protein from? Husey?

657
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that's probably your point. I don't

658
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: know where I get my pate hand from. You know,

659
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: I ate a lot of nuts. But am I getting

660
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Speaker 4: enough protein? I don't know.

661
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Speaker 6: I'm not lifting many weights.

662
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Speaker 4: You know.

663
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Speaker 6: My upper body strength is poor, there's no about that, and.

664
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Speaker 4: I would like to improve that so that my daughters

665
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: don't mock my man moobs as they do. So that

666
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: is yeah, But you know, am I gigging up bread?

667
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: And I don't know, mate, But I tell you what,

668
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Speaker 4: I'm just not getting sore. And as a fifty year

669
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Speaker 4: old to not get sore around ten kill me eleven

670
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Speaker 4: kill minutes the other day, you know, I'm just over

671
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: four minute case and not sought at all. I swear

672
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Speaker 4: to God from the age of thirty, I reckon, I've

673
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Speaker 4: been sore after exercise and I'm now fifty running that

674
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Speaker 4: sort of distance and we're at speed and not for

675
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Speaker 4: a second getting sore.

676
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Speaker 6: That's unbelievable.

677
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Speaker 3: How are those once very chalky, vulnerable hamstrings?

678
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Speaker 6: They're fine. I tell you what.

679
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: My calf muscles, which I was probably from the age

680
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Speaker 4: of forty, I was getting real bad calf or just

681
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: constant calf injuries.

682
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Speaker 6: So I never get any momentum with my running.

683
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: So because I would just pull a calf, take a month,

684
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Speaker 4: get over it, pull a calf again, and I was like,

685
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: that was really basically shut down my running. And I'm

686
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: not getting any touchwood. I'm just not getting any calf injuries.

687
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: A physicist, I'd say that's the old man injury. There's

688
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: nothing you can do about it. You've got to accept it.

689
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: Well I don't. Well, this appears that I don't have

690
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: to accept it.

691
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Speaker 1: You know, there's this I mean, all my listeners are

692
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: board of all the shit that comes out of my

693
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Speaker 1: mouth with this stuff. But you might not have heard

694
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: of this term. It's just called biofeedback, and all it

695
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: means is that your body's always telling you stuff. And

696
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Speaker 1: I believe that we should all I'm not talking about

697
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Speaker 1: with medicine and drugs, but I'm talking about with food

698
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Speaker 1: and exercise and sleep and lifestyle and hydration and coffee

699
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: and tea and booze or whatever. I think we should

700
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Speaker 1: all do some self experimenting to see what works well

701
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: for your body, because you know, there's a lot of

702
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Speaker 1: people who would not advise you to do what you did,

703
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people who would advise you to do

704
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Speaker 1: what you did, which just basically tells us there's no

705
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: universal right. So it's trying to find what's the best

706
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: food strategy, exercise strategy. You know, how much sleep do

707
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Speaker 1: I need? How do I hydrate my body optimally? And

708
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Speaker 1: how much recovery time do I need between you know,

709
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Speaker 1: sets and reps and runs and all that kind of stuff.

710
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Speaker 3: And it's really individual.

711
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Speaker 1: But people think there's this one best program or this

712
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Speaker 1: one best eating philosophy.

713
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Speaker 3: And so I always encourage people.

714
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Speaker 1: If you're listening to Hughesy and you go, I wouldn't

715
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Speaker 1: mind giving that a go. I would say, go, give

716
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Speaker 1: it a go. Do like twenty eight days. Do it

717
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Speaker 1: to the latter though, don't half do it, don't kind

718
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: of do it. Don't do it for four days and

719
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: then get shit faced on the weekend. Do it for

720
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Speaker 1: twenty eight days, or do it for fifty six days

721
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Speaker 1: or whatever timeframe you want, and then literally just see

722
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Speaker 1: how your body responds. Because this is you know, you

723
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: can't get another one, the one that you've got the

724
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Speaker 1: only one.

725
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: You can get. You can't replace it. It's not renewable.

726
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: And so I think that the idea of you know,

727
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: stepping out of doing what doesn't work, and most of

728
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: us are doing what doesn't work. And when you can

729
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Speaker 1: go through fifteen or so years of constant pain and

730
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Speaker 1: exhaustion and post exercise muscle soreness, and then you change

731
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Speaker 1: one thing, which is not an insignificant thing, but you

732
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Speaker 1: change one variable, and then all of a sudden, your

733
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Speaker 1: physiology is different, your energy is different, your performance is different.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I'm I've got mates who work in the

736
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Speaker 4: dairy industry and they get angry at me for saying this,

737
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Speaker 4: and I'm like to say it too loadly.

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Speaker 6: Listenership. But you know, I wonder about dairy. I really do.

739
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Speaker 4: My brother works at warm Wool Cheese and butter factory,

740
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Speaker 4: and it's really angry when I questioned dairy. But I

741
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Speaker 4: wonder whether I wonder whether because I was a pescatarian,

742
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Speaker 4: you got a member for a long time, so I

743
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: didn't need any red made eat each chick for a

744
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: long time and I was still getting sore. But go on,

745
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: the vegan is the difference so you got rid of

746
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: the fish. Is it the fish or is it the dairy.

747
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 6: I don't know one of those two.

748
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: I reckon getting rid of one of those two, or

749
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Speaker 4: maybe both. But yeah, I wonder whether it's a dairy.

750
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Speaker 1: But I think this is that that's just a great question.

751
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm always saying to people. Don't believe me because I

752
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: say something, or you like me or you trust me.

753
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: Believe me when you take something for a test drive

754
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: and see what happens. And this is the thing when

755
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: and no disrespect to people in the dairy because my

756
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: old man used to marry marry manager joint called the

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Speaker 1: Muey Dairying Cooperative Rights. And I grew up in the

758
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Speaker 1: middle of farms and my mum literally grew up on

759
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Speaker 1: a dairy farm.

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Speaker 3: So and I drink milk.

761
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think the thing is that everybody,

762
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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to things like food or religion

763
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Speaker 1: or sport or politics or exercise, everybody lives in an

764
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: echo chamber and people are just, you know, immersed in

765
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: this thing called confirmation bias, which means I'm not going

766
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: to listen to Dave Hughes because he doesn't fucking think.

767
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: Like I think. Hugh Hughes doesn't agree with.

768
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Speaker 1: Me, so he's on Twitter knows all no, But that's

769
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You can't like.

771
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: This is this is the part of personal growth and

772
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 3: consciousness and self awareness is to recognize your own prejudice

773
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: and bias and go, look, this is what I think.

774
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: But I could be wrong. The problem is that but

775
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. Is never there. Everybody everybody is one.

776
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy the other.

777
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Speaker 1: Day about such an issue and he was saying, emphatically,

778
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: this is how it is.

779
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: And I said, so, what you're telling me.

780
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Is that everybody in the world that doesn't agree with

781
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,240
Speaker 1: you on this, everybody is wrong. Everybody who doesn't think

782
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: like you in the.

783
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: World is wrong.

784
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: And he didn't want to own up to that, but

785
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: that's what he's saying. And I'm saying, you know, like

786
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: even with me, and I've seen a lot, done a lot,

787
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: worked with tens of thousands of humans, educated myself a lot,

788
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: worked in the space. You know, I owned multiple gyms,

789
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: all that shit, there's still way more that I don't

790
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: know than I do. And everything's an evolution and some

791
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: of the things I used to firmly hold on to

792
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: as truth or belief or knowledge or science. Ten years

793
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: ago I've now let go of because I realized that

794
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: my thinking or my belief was flawed.

795
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: So if there's no kind of.

796
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Speaker 1: Flexibility in our ideology or our beliefs, we make ourselves unteachable.

797
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: And if you're unteachable, that's fucking terrifying.

798
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, open minded. We've got to be open minded. We yes,

799
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: we've got to. You've got to be able to listen

800
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: to other opinions and not just just just just dismiss

801
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: them straight away out of hand and then go, I'm

802
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: never listening to that person again because they had that opinion.

803
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 4: It's just no one is going to learn that way.

804
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: He just yeah, absolutely.

805
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: I want to take a left turn, as I do.

806
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: And so you get an opportunity to sit one on

807
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: one with the Deli Alama, one of two or three

808
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: people in Australia at the time. I think that got

809
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: that opportunity. And your big fucking question is whether or

810
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: not i'll bless your football club.

811
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: But his answer was great because he said I would,

812
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: I will, and bet it won't help. That's what he said,

813
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: and he was right, he did, and it didn't help.

814
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: It still hadn't come good.

815
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 3: How long did you get to sit with him?

816
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 6: I've made have.

817
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: Been ten minutes maybe, but you know, I did feel

818
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: a connection and I love, you know what, I'm the

819
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: Buddhist way, I think generally is a good way because

820
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: just to see the smile and the laugh on their

821
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 4: leader makes that sort of part.

822
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: That's part of my philosophy as well.

823
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you feel like he sees the

824
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: ridiculousness of life life and he's able to laugh at it,

825
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: and that's always what I want to be able to do.

826
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm getting deeper. I really am starting.

827
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: I'm annoying people about this, but I've gone into meditation

828
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: twice a day now and that's only a recent thing.

829
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: But I'm absolutely loving it. I'm just morning and night

830
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 4: set it in twenty minutes a time. It's a again.

831
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 4: You know, I want to go back to the Netflix,

832
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: I go, but this is I think this is a

833
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: game changer for me. I've banned on about it. I

834
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: was band interest in Buddhis philosophy since I was at

835
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 4: in my early twenties, you know, over almost three decades ago.

836
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: But I'm really starting to invest in it now. Just

837
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: with myself and I'm feeling the benefits.

838
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 6: I really am.

839
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: I just quiet, Just find the quiet, get behind the noise,

840
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: and it's all noise in your head, is all noise.

841
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: If you can manage your mind, I think you can

842
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: manage your life, you know, because it's it's such or

843
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: it can be such. As I said before, when I

844
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: ask an audience, you know, to put up your hand.

845
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: If you're an overthinker, every hand goes.

846
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: Up, and then go, well, let's talk about that, and

847
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: who wants to be an overthinker?

848
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: Will nobody? Who is everybody?

849
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: So you know, generally the root of overthinking, the underlying

850
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: causes fear.

851
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the fear of what he is

852
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: scared of. I want to be loved and valued, needed.

853
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: Accepted, popular, sexy, desirable, and all of that shit is temporary. Anyway,

854
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: I think part of this, let's go deep, husy. Part

855
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: of this is really where does where does Hughesy finish?

856
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: And where does Dave hughes start. You know, there's there's

857
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: the not that you're disingenuous, but there's the Huesy persona.

858
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: There's the public, funny, lovable, fucking alarican. And then there's

859
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Dave Hughes, the human being, the conscious entity, trying to

860
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: figure out what the fuck life is about and what

861
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: the fuck you're about in the middle of that life.

862
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, when we live in this duality of existence,

863
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: which is the external world, situation, circumstance, environment, are the

864
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: humans Telly Radio stand up all these extern all stimuli

865
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: and experiences, But where we live is internally. Where we

866
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: live is in our thoughts and our values and our

867
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: beliefs and our love and our compassion. And so there's

868
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: this concurrent existence, this duality, and trying to figure out

869
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: where does the external stop and where does my internal

870
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: world start?

871
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: And what does that look like?

872
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: And where does where does Dave's stuff finish? Where does

873
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: day's brand and business and reputation and house and money

874
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: and all that stuff which is not bad or good,

875
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: it's just stuff. Where does that finish? And where does

876
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Dave start? And where does Dave get his sense of

877
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Speaker 1: self from?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I've got to the point where, you know,

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about external internal, but actually

880
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: it is all internal.

881
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 6: Like there's no external.

882
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: We create our all, We create everything. There's nothing created

883
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 4: outside our own brains. It's all inside there, and everything

884
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: else is an illusional insides, an illusionble. I know I'm

885
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: certainly getting a bit, but it's like it is all noise.

886
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 4: Everything is noise created by ourselves. No one else creates

887
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: the noise. We create every single moment of our reality.

888
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: No one else creates it. No one creates my reality

889
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: I do. No one creates anyone's reality except themselves.

890
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 6: And that is what. Once you realize that, you go, wow,

891
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: it's everything. It's all up to me.

892
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: That's right.

893
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: No no other entity makes and it makes a choice.

894
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 6: I make every choice, and that's it.

895
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: And what I want to do is get beyond even that,

896
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 4: in which I've started to do through this focus of

897
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: just living in the moment and realizing it's all noise in.

898
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 6: My head, created by no one else.

899
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: I decide how loud the volume is or how low

900
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Speaker 4: the volume is. No one else can decide for me.

901
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: No one else can do it for me. I have

902
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: to do it for myself. And I'm turning down the

903
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 4: volume and enjoying life much more by doing that. And

904
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Speaker 4: it's like I'm not worrying. I'm worrying much less about

905
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 4: the bullshit, which is comparing yourself to others the whole time.

906
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Speaker 6: The ego I've been.

907
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: I've been a prisoner of my own ego for a

908
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: long time. And maybe it's it's meant that I've got

909
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Speaker 4: to where I'm at.

910
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Speaker 6: I don't know. But it's not enjoyable to do that.

911
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 6: I much prefer just to look at.

912
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: A tree and go, Wow, that's amazing. And when you're

913
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: quiet in your mind and you work on it constantly,

914
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: and you've got to make it a practice, and I

915
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Speaker 4: think it's going to make it a lifetime of practice.

916
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Speaker 6: Life becomes so much more enjoyable, you know.

917
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Speaker 4: Even just making the school lunches every morning, which I

918
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Speaker 4: do because my wife is a teacher and she goes

919
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: to school and I make the lunches, which is just

920
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: a tedious job of just drudgery of day after day.

921
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Speaker 4: Once you turn your attitude around and go quiet, it

922
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: becomes a nice moment and it's yeah, I'm really into

923
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: this at the moment, and I hope I continue.

924
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I love it. It's the.

925
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the separation of the internal and the external. And

926
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Speaker 1: like one of the challenges for us is that we

927
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: grow up in a collective culture and message that says

928
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: to an extent, success is about what you have and

929
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: what you earn, and what you own and what you

930
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Speaker 1: do and what you drive and where you live. And

931
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Speaker 1: that's how people are and it shouldn't be that, but

932
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: that is how people are evaluated. And as you I

933
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: talk about the subjective nature of being human, and one

934
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Speaker 1: of the really easy to understand explanations is, you know,

935
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Speaker 1: we might have ten thousand people listen to this episode,

936
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: and although they're all getting the exact same message, with

937
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: the same intent from the same people, probably no one

938
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: is having an identical experience of this moment in time,

939
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Speaker 1: or this podcast or this Dave Hughes experience. No one's

940
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Speaker 1: having an identical experience to anyone else because we are

941
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Speaker 1: the creators of our experience. We are the creators of

942
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Speaker 1: our reality.

943
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Speaker 4: We created all, We created all. And that's that's the

944
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: powerful message that I've sort of realized recently. There's no

945
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: one else creating my reality. I'm doing it myself, and

946
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Speaker 4: it's my decisions, my decisions.

947
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Speaker 6: Every moment of the day.

948
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Speaker 4: I make the decision as to what I'm going to

949
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: think and what I'm going to dwell on or not

950
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: dwell on. No one else is making them for me,

951
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 4: and it's yeah, it's but I mean, I'm not even

952
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 4: trying to consciously now make say I'm good or I'm great,

953
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Speaker 4: or I'm funny or I'm you know whatever, just.

954
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Speaker 6: Go beyond that. I don't even need to. And it's funny.

955
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Speaker 4: The more that I quieten down, the more other people

956
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: are saying nice things to me. It's because I'm not

957
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: walking around desperate for attention. But it doesn't matter that

958
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Speaker 4: they're saying nice things because I think I don't even

959
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Speaker 4: need them to say nice things anymore. I really, you know,

960
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: I'm not perfect, but I'm getting better at it, you know,

961
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Speaker 4: and it's lovely.

962
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Speaker 3: I think.

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00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really comes down to awareness of self. And

964
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I talk about my numerous shortcomings, but you know, ego

965
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: and self esteem stuff and the need for approval. And

966
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Speaker 1: you know, when I was a kid, I was this Morbley.

967
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Speaker 1: I was the fattest kid in my school. My name

968
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Speaker 1: at school was Jumbo. You know, all this bullshit that

969
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: you carry with you and and even even when you

970
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: succeed in inverted commas to a degree, it took a

971
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: long time for me. Like I owned, I had five

972
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: different businesses and one hundred staff when I was thirty

973
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Speaker 1: years old and I was making lots of dough in.

974
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Speaker 3: Life was good.

975
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Speaker 1: But in the middle of all of that, I was

976
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: still a fuck with I was still anxious, I was

977
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Speaker 1: still had low self esteem. I still couldn't get enough,

978
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: or have enough, or get enough. Attentional, We'll never.

979
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Speaker 4: Get We'll never get enough. When you need to get enough,

980
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: You'll never get enough. There'll always be people better than you,

981
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: richer than you, stronger than you, farther than you. You know,

982
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: just there's never going to be enough.

983
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Do you think part of the awareness or part of

984
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: the trigger for this for you, because it was for me,

985
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: was being around people who are successful in inverted commas,

986
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: who in the middle of all of their shiny existence,

987
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: their Hollywood like existence, which from the outside looking and

988
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: they were killing it. But when you get to know

989
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: them beyond that. So many of my clients over the

990
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Speaker 1: years that I work with were super duper wealthy and successful,

991
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: but simultaneously anxious and depressed and insecure and exhausted and physically, mentally,

992
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: emotionally and spiritually bankrupt. And you go from the outside

993
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: like what you would see externally was not at all

994
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: any indication of what was happening internally.

995
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you'd see very successful people who were bitter and

996
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: jowous and just aren'nhappy.

997
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 6: And it's like, what is the point.

998
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: Honestly, I look at some of the big example that

999
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: is James Packer, who's, like you know, was Australia's richest men.

1000
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: But if you if you met James, I did a

1001
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: few times, you just came across as so insecure and

1002
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: so just you could see how fragile his ego was.

1003
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 4: And you could, you know, you could from my brief

1004
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: and caounters with James Packer, I to hear that he

1005
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: had problems, you know, down the track was just so

1006
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 4: evident because of the ego that was just constantly needed

1007
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: to be fed, and it's just it was never going

1008
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 4: to end well. So it's just to get beyond that ego.

1009
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 4: And I've had it, don't get me wrong, still to.

1010
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 6: This day, I you know, to that.

1011
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: This morning, I pick up Twitter and someone says something

1012
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: that triggers me. I want to respond, I don't. I

1013
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: look at it again. And a friend of mine selling

1014
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: out the Sydney Opera house. I'm triggered, and I'm like,

1015
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: what is the point.

1016
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Well, if you listen to Rogan, you know, he would

1017
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: tell you, don't pay attention to that ship mate, don't

1018
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: read it.

1019
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: I know, I agree, I'm one hundred percent on that.

1020
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: And it's just but the more we quite in the mind,

1021
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: the more we just you know what, just this sounds

1022
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: very deep, but just to just for us to realize

1023
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: how amazing it is to be alive and just to

1024
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 4: be able to breathe, and just what gifts were given,

1025
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 4: The gift of life is just there's nothing else you need.

1026
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: You have had a spiritual liking.

1027
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 6: I even Jonko now.

1028
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: No, but I like it.

1029
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: But you know, you think about this, how many people

1030
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: have a moment in their life where something goes horrendous,

1031
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, an accident or a tragedy, or a death,

1032
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: or an illness or you know whatever bushfires or COVID

1033
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: even for some people just the stuff, just the really

1034
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: hard shit in life.

1035
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: And all they want. All those people want, understandably, is

1036
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: all they want is what they had yesterday before all

1037
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: this shit started. Yeah, if only I could.

1038
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: So what they want is the life that they didn't

1039
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: really appreciate value. They desperately want that back because now

1040
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: they have a new regard and a new attitude and

1041
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: new psychology around it. And I always say to people

1042
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: with two on two fronts. One, you know, don't wait

1043
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: for the tragedy before you step into your potential and

1044
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: your possibilities. But also don't wait for the tragedy before

1045
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: you have gratitude and awareness of how fucking amazing your

1046
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: existence is.

1047
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 3: Yes, like I go in.

1048
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: Your existence is every moment we should be going, My god,

1049
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: look at this, I am spinning around through space on

1050
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: a rock. Look around me. This is amazing. And that

1051
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: appreciation is what you're saying. They're the gratitude of that.

1052
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: Everything else falls away, all the bulls, it falls away.

1053
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: You're like this.

1054
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: One of my mentors used to say to me, Hughes,

1055
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: you do it. Do a treasure hunt on your life. Yeah,

1056
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: go and do a treasure hunt. Find all the good things,

1057
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: because you know, most people, if there's one hundred things

1058
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: in their life and one's not so great, but ninety

1059
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: nine are pretty good, too, amazing, they'll focus on the one.

1060
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: And it's really about where the fuck is your attention,

1061
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Because where your attention is, your mind is, your emotion is,

1062
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: your body is, and if your attention is on that

1063
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: bad thing, that happened four and a half years ago.

1064
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: That's where you are. You know, you're not present, you're

1065
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: not here, You're not in the moment.

1066
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1067
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 4: So for me to a small example to do, I've

1068
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: got a TV show, Us We have a Problem, which

1069
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: is on its fourth season, coming back in February. But

1070
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 4: the ratings will come out every Tuesday whatever, and I

1071
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: won't look at the people who are watching.

1072
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Speaker 6: I'll look at the people who aren't watching.

1073
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Speaker 4: I won't go, Wow, maybe four hundred thousand people watch that.

1074
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: I'll go, oh, look at all the people who didn't watch.

1075
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Speaker 6: You know what the fuck?

1076
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm a little kid who grew up in a commission

1077
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: house and I've got a TV show on you know,

1078
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: a network, and it's making me miserable.

1079
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when that's the case, you know the problems

1080
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: not the TV show or the network.

1081
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: You know, you're the fucking problem. But we're all the problem,

1082
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: aren't we. So we've got to go.

1083
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you a quick few questions

1084
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: before we go, So just one, give me, give Tiff

1085
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: and I and the listeners one minute on Hughes's parenting style.

1086
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 6: I am, I am. You know it sounds corny, but

1087
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: I want my children to be happy.

1088
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: And you know, my son's playing basketball under under thirteen's.

1089
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: He's freaking out, you know, and.

1090
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: It's the corny thing to save. He's doing rep training.

1091
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Speaker 4: And you make sure you enjoy that. You enjoy it.

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00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: You're out in court, you take those shots. You don't

1093
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: worry about it. You know, we're in the backyard. He's

1094
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: cracking the ships because he's missing free throws. And I say, mate,

1095
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: the real winners are the ones who stay.

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Speaker 6: In the moment.

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00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: They haven't even they don't even think about the ones

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00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: they've missed. They just they're right there.

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00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 6: So that's one thing.

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00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: But and just love comedy in my house. And the

1101
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: kids are really into it as well. My daughter eight

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00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: year old nine year old daughter. I went to get

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00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: it some toothpastes out of their bathroom yesterday and there's

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00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: a note on its on the door saying this is

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00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: kids toothpaste only not to be touched by adults. I

1106
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 4: just love that she's taking the time to write these

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00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: notes out. And yeah, so I just I want a

1108
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 4: lot of laughter in my house, and I just want

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00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: the kids to have a good time. And you know what,

1110
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: they're watching friends at the moment. God, they love Friends

1111
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 4: and I love Friends.

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00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: I think I watched all ten seasons of Friends in

1114
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: about three months, about ten years ago, which is not

1115
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: a good admission, but I fucking i'd never like. It

1116
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: was already done by the time I started watching it,

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00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: and somebody bought me the DVD series.

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00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: Have you watched Friends Tied?

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00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: And I found it quite addictive.

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00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: But it's good to know that the kids in your

1122
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: house are creating boundaries for.

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Speaker 4: You, Hughsy They there's very little respect going on, but

1124
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: in a way, there's a lot of joy in the here.

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00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 6: They look.

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: If I could all the drugs that my kids appear

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00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: to be on because they're so happy that, you know,

1128
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: I'd make a lot of money. Obviously want that to continue,

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: their joy to continue.

1130
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: And did you did you marry Holly because you needed

1131
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: a grown up influence in your life or.

1132
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: She sees she was someone who is Actually she's obviously

1133
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 4: very attractive. And I did do get a lot of

1134
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 4: comments about how bat and above my origin.

1135
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 6: I do appreciate that.

1136
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 4: And there was the famous time my son, at the

1137
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: age of seven, said, Dad, did you meet mamake?

1138
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 6: He got famous, and it was hurtful at the time,

1139
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 6: and I.

1140
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: No, is it though, or is it just insightful?

1141
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 6: What's insightful?

1142
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: I said, mate, you worked that out, but you still

1143
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 4: can't you still take you half an hour? But to

1144
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 4: jump on mate, exactly. So yeah, she's very grounded and

1145
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: very she's school teacher. Now, she was a journ up

1146
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: the Herald Son, but she she didn't like chasing ambulances

1147
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: and she wasn't that keen on, you know, getting a

1148
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: chad opportunity to be TV and stuff. But she never

1149
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: really went for it. I didn't understand at the time,

1150
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 4: how do you not want that attention?

1151
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 6: So she didn't.

1152
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: So and she's teaching grade one and she's very happy

1153
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 4: doing that. So yeah, she's very doesn't seek the limelight.

1154
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: And it's very, very grounded. And it's always trying to

1155
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: tell me to be grateful when I get a bad review,

1156
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: you know, or someone someone says something hurtful about me

1157
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: in the newspaper, and she goes, look, you've got a

1158
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: pretty good life.

1159
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 6: You need to stop winging. So I appreciate that.

1160
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing all right, you get you're going all right.

1161
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: Get over at housing commission. Boy just fucking get some perspective.

1162
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: If everything last question, if everything goes great on planet Hughsy,

1163
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: everything goes awesome, things work out, you go where you

1164
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: want to go, Things unfolded beautifully.

1165
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: What's happening in five years?

1166
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 6: Mate?

1167
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: You know what if I'm going to dream the dream

1168
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I don't know. I do a TV

1169
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: or a comedy special which somehow gets picked up internationally

1170
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you know, people we don't

1171
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: have to explain well overseas listeners who they have huses,

1172
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: you know they already know. So it's happened to the occasion,

1173
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 4: it happens. You know, Hannah Gadsby and Usie Comic had

1174
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: a special that went international and then she was talking

1175
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 4: some very serious subjects in that special. But it does

1176
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: happen occasionally. So I look for anyone here from Netflix

1177
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: is watching. You know, I'm happy to give you a special,

1178
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 4: real cheap, put it on your platforms, and who knows

1179
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 4: who could go We could go international.

1180
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 6: That would be fun.

1181
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: But otherwise, zen as mate, and you see me in

1182
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: the street, you'll see me smiling.

1183
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 6: You know it.

1184
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: From too many years people have seen me in the

1185
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: street and yelled out, what's wrong here?

1186
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: Is it?

1187
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: You know? It will probably never happen because obviously I'm

1188
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 4: thinking about you know, those tickets I haven't sold, or

1189
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 4: those those ratings I didn't get on the TV.

1190
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 6: So no more.

1191
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: From now on, we're just going to walk around, smell

1192
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: on the flowers, appreciating the birds, singing and enjoying life.

1193
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: We're going to get you.

1194
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: We're going to send you a caftan, some Jesus sandals,

1195
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of dream catches, a fucking tambourine.

1196
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: My kids, my kids actually say enough of this, Guru, Guru,

1197
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: bullshit Dad.

1198
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: Well, mate, we really appreciate you being on the project.

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00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: You're a ripper. Thanks for taking an hour out of

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: your day.

1201
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: I know you're busy, and you genuinely are busy, and

1202
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: I know you get a lot of requests and we're nobody,

1203
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you talking to us nobody's and taking

1204
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: the effort and bringing bringing the energy to this moment

1205
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: for everyone to listen to.

1206
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 6: So thanks a lot yours. I really enjoyed it.

1207
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: Thanks mate, Thanks, thanks everyone to stay there.

1208
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Huge, Thanks everyone, tip anything else if if I forgotten

1209
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: any housekeeping.

1210
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: You never forget the housekeeping. You've done well, Heart's well done,

1211
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: gold Staff for you all right, I

1212
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: Do my best, Love your guts everyone, See you next time.