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Speaker 1: Good, our team, Welcome to another installment of the You Project. Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: Are you all right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, harps, I am very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: What's going on over there at fucking cook Central?

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Speaker 2: Some same old just scooting around in the mood boot.

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Speaker 2: For the most part, I get to take it off

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Speaker 2: and punch things a little bit now, which is great.

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Speaker 1: What's the typical pain barometer? Because it was a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it was about fifteen out of ten

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Speaker 1: and you're crying like a four year old? What are

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Speaker 1: the tears diminished somewhat? Are you okay? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just occasionally rolling down one cheek frustration, but

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Speaker 2: just a.

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Speaker 1: Pathetic tear, just dribbling down one cheek. Well, you're a

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Speaker 1: gangster and so we wish you were speedy recovery. So

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Speaker 1: you secured today's guest. You said he wasn't that great,

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Speaker 1: but he was available. You didn't say anything like that,

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Speaker 1: you said he's fucking awesome. You know, when you're getting

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Speaker 1: someone on the show, you go and do a bit

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Speaker 1: of research, and I'm like, well, what research do I

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Speaker 1: need to do? Because I've loved him and watched him

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Speaker 1: from Afar forever It's not that I know everything, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like with some people, like we had Tracy

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Speaker 1: bartramon yesterday or the day before, who goes way back,

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Speaker 1: and most people love Tracy and know of Tracy and Hughesy.

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Speaker 1: I feel you can probably at the moment times that

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Speaker 1: by ten. But anyway, for our overseas listeners, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say this. Our Australian listeners know Hughesy, but our

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Speaker 1: overseas listeners, of which is about twenty percent of our audience.

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Speaker 1: So Hughesy is he's an icon in Australia. He won't

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Speaker 1: say that, but I will because he's far too humble

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Speaker 1: and self deprecating. But he's a comedian. He's done a

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Speaker 1: little bit of acting. It was fucking horrible. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the tip. He's a radio star, he's a TV

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Speaker 1: star as a host. He's a dad. He's a bogan

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Speaker 1: and we love all of that shit. And if you

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Speaker 1: don't know what a bogan is, a bogan is kind

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Speaker 1: of He's not really a bogan, but he's a bit

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Speaker 1: Boganesque like myself. I grew up in the bush. He

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Speaker 1: grew up in the bush. Tiff grew up in Tasmania.

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Speaker 1: That's the bush. So there's a little bit of that

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Speaker 1: about all three of us. Hussey, thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 3: Projectif it's great to be here, and yeah, I appreciate

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Speaker 3: the intro, and note I will accept the icon status.

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Speaker 4: Mate, I'm not that humble, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I argue with you. David William Hughes ak

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Speaker 1: a magic hair, he told us before Stiff. Can you

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Speaker 1: get a good screenshot of his hair at some stage

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Speaker 1: through the thing, because we need that for the promo.

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Speaker 1: He's telling us how awesome his hair was.

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Speaker 3: I'm only saying that because I spent many years I

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Speaker 3: look back on photos of me with really short hair

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Speaker 3: thinking why aren't I, you know, making the most of

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Speaker 3: a natural assets. Like some people, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: men lose their hair young, or they lose their hair

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Speaker 3: when they're thirty or forty or fifty. I just turned

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Speaker 3: fifty and it's as growing, as strong, and as lustrous

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Speaker 3: as ever, and I'm going to make the most of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nothing if not fucking vibrant and prolific. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how sexy it is or how styled it is,

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Speaker 1: but let's just go with there's a lot of it, mate,

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Speaker 1: so good for you. But I know I don't look

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Speaker 1: like it. But my hair goes. My hair's like yours,

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Speaker 1: except that grows in thirty seven directions. So people think

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Speaker 1: I've been bored for twenty years. I'm not baled. My

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Speaker 1: old man's eighty one. He's got hair like a fucking yetty,

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Speaker 1: and my hair grows like crazy. But it's just out

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Speaker 1: of control. But I think with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: product shocking.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually shocked by that me like everyone else would assume.

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Speaker 4: That you're ball, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Well, give it a go, let it hang out, Let's

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Speaker 3: see a new you. It's you know, let's change it up.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you change it up. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: do the same thing every day.

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Speaker 1: I'm been coached by Dave Hughes. I feel kind of privileged.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to send me a bill?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Dear? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny though, how we get into I don't know this,

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Speaker 1: this groove where I've been shaved my head since I

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Speaker 1: used to stand on nightclub doors one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: Hughesy and get punched in the face for ten dollars

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Speaker 1: an hour, right, and so it's been a but it's

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Speaker 1: just been a standard. I reckon. I've had twenty pairs

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Speaker 1: of clippers, and probably every Monday fortnight I clip in

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Speaker 1: probably been in the military because I'm built for it,

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Speaker 1: but I've let it grow out. If have you ever

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Speaker 2: I've seen it with a little bit of hair. I

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Speaker 2: mean you had a little bit of hair when you

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Speaker 2: yeah that photo with your mom.

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Speaker 1: I put up this photo. This is terrible, fucking I

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Speaker 1: was going to say it's terrible radio. We're not on

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Speaker 1: the radio. But just just for Hughes's benefit, can you

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Speaker 1: see that or hang on? Let me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got like about three milre. Yeah that's not true.

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Speaker 1: Have a look.

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Speaker 2: Looks HAPs you look like you get a pan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It just goes everywhere. And I have to be thinking.

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Speaker 3: You just put up a photo of you looking like

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Speaker 3: Krusty the Clown. Maybe half an inch there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like.

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Speaker 1: Toughing Hell City on Brad Pitt. If you have to marry,

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Speaker 1: you're jo.

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Speaker 4: After the town side Joe Bio. I'm talking about the hair.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the face.

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Speaker 1: You're a funny man. So I don't want to ask

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Speaker 1: you all the boring shit, but give us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about Dave Hugh's the six year old, eight year old,

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Speaker 1: ten year old? Where'd you grow up? What was it like?

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Speaker 1: You don't have to give us the cliche stuff. I

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Speaker 1: feel like someone like you who's been interviewed a thousand times,

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Speaker 1: I want to not have that conversation. But also most

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Speaker 1: of our audience won't know the answer to these questions.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, fair enough, let's go where'd you grow up?

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Speaker 1: What was it like? What were you good at? What

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Speaker 1: did you hate? Were you an athlete?

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Speaker 3: Grow up in a country town place called Warnable. At

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Speaker 3: a time, probably twenty thousand people lived in the town.

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Speaker 3: One of the youngest of four children.

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Speaker 4: My old is.

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Speaker 3: My twin sisters are at three and a half years

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Speaker 4: So in a.

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Speaker 3: Commission house, look a humble abode. Dad was a factory worker,

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Speaker 3: mom was a nurse. And yeah, so you know, I

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Speaker 3: dreamed of having Nike, You know the cliche. I dreamed

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Speaker 4: You know, I was.

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Speaker 3: You know, my kids now just lose their nights and

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I went to a well Catholics, you know

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Speaker 3: so I went to Catholic primary school. You know, I

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Speaker 3: did all that stuff, you know, church every Sunday. Went

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Speaker 3: was I was scared of girls, to be honest, so

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Speaker 4: I was so.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't like being laughed at back then. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I did dream of being an athlete. That was

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Speaker 3: a big thing for me. I want to be an athlete,

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Speaker 3: I you know that every night, dreaming about playing Test

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Speaker 3: cricket or winning Wimbledon, or you know, winning AFL Grand

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Speaker 3: Finals and footy or you know, just sports, sports, sport.

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Speaker 3: I remember Maradonna died the other day. Obviously a legend,

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Speaker 4: I was just sport obsessed as a young person.

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Speaker 1: What was the thing that what was the one thing

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Speaker 1: that you were good at? I mean you might have

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Speaker 1: been good at, but was the thing you were best

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Speaker 1: What might it have been?

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Speaker 4: It might have been Aussie rules. Yeah, so I was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a good country footballer and you know

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Speaker 4: You know, there was one guy who said it, but

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I knew that dream was over at the

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Speaker 1: probably set you on a trajectory that has served you well.

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Speaker 4: He did. And I was doing comedy at the time.

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Speaker 3: I've had one injury story involving the adrenaline of being

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Speaker 3: So I went on stage that night and I said, guys,

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Speaker 3: I played footy today and I have injured myself so badly.

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Speaker 3: Look how far I can lift my arm. And I

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Speaker 3: Adrenaline of being on stage at that point made you,

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Speaker 3: I realize how much adrenaline you have when you're on stage.

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Speaker 3: It was just the injury had gone away. As soon

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Speaker 4: That was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I fucked my back so badly. I've got a history

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Speaker 1: of lower back injuries. But touch wood, he says, he

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Speaker 1: touched the table. It's all right at the moment. But

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Speaker 1: I've had a bunch of you know, injections, underscan and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of shit. I haven't had surgery, which

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to see it's inside you.

438
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: So and you tell them stories that you believe in,

439
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: so you don't need to read them off a piece

440
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: of paper because there's they're your stories.

441
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: But you can. You can read a room, right, You

442
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: know if something's working or not working. You know if

443
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: you're connecting or disconnecting. You know if people are engaged

444
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: or not. But you can't when you go in with something.

445
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: I think that's pre set, prescripted, predetermined for me. Anyway,

446
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: it's the worst way to work because I feel like

447
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm unplugged from the humans, you know. I feel like

448
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing this choreograph thing that isn't me, and I

449
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: feel like a fraud. And it doesn't always work, but

450
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: it nearly always works if I just go in and

451
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: I go, well, I'm going to talk about resilience. I'm

452
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: going to talk about metacognition, which is thinking about thinking,

453
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: and talk about a bit about physiology, and talk about beliefs,

454
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about these eight things. Reset

455
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: go and then I go. I walk in and I go,

456
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Speaker 1: put up your hand. If you're an overthinker, and every

457
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Speaker 1: hand goes up, and I've got instant engagement, put up

458
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Speaker 1: your hand. Yeah, put up your hand. If you got

459
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: in shape and then got fat, every hand goes you know.

460
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: And so it's if I can get hands up and

461
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: people laughing or nodding and I've got connection in the

462
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Speaker 1: first thirty seconds, we're good. And then you just go

463
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: from there.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you've done the work. You're not

465
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: a fraud. You've lived it. And so that's and they

466
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: will sense that as well. So that's why you don't

467
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: need the scripts, because you've got it all inside you.

468
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, but for me, and again, never a script,

469
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: never read off on autoque ever. But yeah, but have

470
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Speaker 3: the stories inside me and have them ready because I've

471
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Speaker 3: lived them and I know them and I trust them.

472
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Speaker 1: I did some stuff for a few years on the

473
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Speaker 1: David Kimshell and Channel ten on the Morning show whatever

474
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Speaker 1: it was called, and they're like, at the start, I

475
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Speaker 1: got asked to go in and be interviewed about something.

476
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Speaker 1: So I just went and did a gig and they

477
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Speaker 1: then the executive producer asked me to go see her

478
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Speaker 1: after the show. Anyway, so they said you want to

479
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Speaker 1: come back next week? Because that was great. I went short,

480
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: came back, and then the next week they went, do

481
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Speaker 1: you want to be a regular? So anyway, I ended

482
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Speaker 1: up being a regular for a few years. But what

483
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to do, they wanted to They wanted me

484
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Speaker 1: to send all the questionestions that they wanted that I

485
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: wanted asked about this topic, or they're like, do you

486
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: want us to I go, I don't want any of that.

487
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: I go, please don't do that. Let's just sit on

488
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: the couch and have a conversation about like if we're

489
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Speaker 1: talking about resilience, let's just talk. I go because if

490
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Speaker 1: I have to remember what they're going to ask me,

491
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: or if I have to kind of come up with

492
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: some pre organized answer, it's I'm going to be terrible

493
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: because I'm shit at that. But what I'm good at

494
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: is just talking to humans about whatever. And so they

495
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: were quite and I did a couple of outside broadcasts

496
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: from a few places with people and stuff, and they

497
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: wanted to be scripted and they wanted auto Q and

498
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Speaker 1: all this, and I go, I can't, I can't. I'm

499
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Speaker 1: just just let me do it once without it and

500
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: then if I'm terrible, either get rid of me or

501
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: I'll do you know, if I'm shit, get rid of me,

502
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: or I'll do the AUTOQ. And they went, well, that

503
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: was good. So yeah, but I had to fight to

504
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: be so that I could just do my thing. Now,

505
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: this is what I do all the time. It's just

506
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Speaker 1: that there's a camera on it at the moment.

507
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and it's a look, yeah, I mean that's

508
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 3: I hear you, and yeah, I'm with you on that.

509
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: So and it can be frustrating being on TV when

510
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: you do have producers wanting you to ask the exact

511
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: questions that they're written or you know, like that's sort

512
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 3: of yeah, it's a you don't want to be corralled.

513
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason I left the project, to

514
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: be honest, is that sort of desire to have everything

515
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: in a neat little box, and there's not enough room

516
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: to spread your wings, I suppose.

517
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Speaker 1: So I think that's why one of the reasons that

518
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that podcasts have proliferated. And of course,

519
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: like any other product or service, there are good podcasts

520
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: and shit ones and okay ones and Joe Rogan at

521
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: the far end of the scale, but rogans or do

522
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: you have a listener Rogan?

523
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

524
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: So he's always talking about, as you would know, he's

525
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: talking about comedy and writing and the skill and the

526
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: craft and you know, the organic nature of this and that.

527
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Speaker 1: But he also talks about the freedom that comes with

528
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, you and I don't need to go to

529
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: a break. We don't need to do a station idea

530
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: or a time check or a weather check, or we're

531
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: not throwing to the news or you can and we

532
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: can talk for thirty three minutes or fucking two hours

533
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: and ten minutes, and we could talk about whatever we

534
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: want and nobody's standing in front of you waving hands

535
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: or going we've got to go to a break or

536
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: fucking all that shit.

537
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: Right, I went on to TV and say I don't

538
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: want to get back of the project. But that was

539
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: my real example of you know, you've got producers in

540
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: your ear who are just spending half the time panicking.

541
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: So you've got someone yelling at you and your I've

542
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: done this, did I did this joke that the logos

543
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: one night? I remember that it was a true story

544
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: where I'm halfway through a sentence and I hear someone

545
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: in my yell out stop speaking.

546
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's going to sound like I've had a

547
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 4: stroke if I stopped speaking. Now.

548
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm literally halfway through a sentence. But I know,

549
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: I think on the night my eyes just went crazy.

550
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: You know, I just sort of shut down. People would

551
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 4: have think I was I was, you know, had a

552
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: medical condition.

553
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: But only someone who's never been in front of a

554
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Speaker 1: mic or camera would screen.

555
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: That in you. But I understand they're panicking.

556
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: Is I think they've got to go to an ad

557
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: break and yeah, so but yeah, no, it's crazy.

558
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: It can be crazy.

559
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: So do you have a Rogan talks all the time

560
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: about his the way that he writes and the way

561
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: that he kind of develops material. Do you have a

562
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: specific process or does sh it just.

563
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: You write notes down in my you know, just in

564
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: my phone or in the notes section of my phone,

565
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: I just write stuff down that comes up.

566
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 4: You know, I have a look now, just what am

567
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: I reading? You know, I was on a plane yesterday.

568
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: This is just so.

569
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Speaker 3: I don't know this will ever become anything, but I

570
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: was on a plane yesterday. I'm happily married and you know,

571
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: not going to ever cheat. But there was an attractive

572
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: flight attendant. You know, it's just but then she spent

573
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: an expended period of time in the bathroom and just

574
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: did all the romance. When it's goodness, she gone before

575
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Speaker 3: she got on the plane.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that about? What's that about? Gail? So when

577
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: did you stop eating meat? Tell us a little bit

578
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: about that, because I'm interested in that.

579
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: I stopped eating meat. I became a pescatarian many years ago.

580
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: I think, I, look, I've got a history of bow

581
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: cancer in the family. So my mum's had bow cancer,

582
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: and you know, there's quite a history of it. I

583
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: think I read years ago that meat could be a

584
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: factor in causing bow cancer. So I thought, well, I

585
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: might stop eating meat, you know, and just because I

586
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: don't want to get bow cancer. So that was many

587
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: years ago, and didn't really miss it that much. It

588
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: was a pescatarian ate, a lot of fish. I'd had

589
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: fish with every meal, basically a lot of dairy about

590
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: a year, just over a year ago. I mean, you

591
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: might have watched it, and I'm not saying it's perfect,

592
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: but the game changes doco that was on Netflix, and

593
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: that made me think about how sore I was getting.

594
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: I love exercising, I said, just turned fifty the other day,

595
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: and I love running and I have for many years,

596
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: but I get so sore the last fifteen years or

597
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: I can you go for a run and then could

598
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: hardly walk the next day, struggling to get down the

599
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: stairs as when you wake up and on the dock.

600
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: I was saying that, you know, you don't get a sore,

601
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: and you know what, I'm going to give that a go,

602
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: and I swear to god. I'm a year later and

603
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: I do not get sought at all when I exercised crazy.

604
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: I can.

605
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Around the tan the other day, which is just under

606
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: four k run in fifteen forty seven and just don't get.

607
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: Sought at all. It's not at all. It's unbelievable.

608
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty quick, dude, that's four minute k's that's averaging

609
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: fifteen kilometers an hour. That's for your fifty year old self. Congratulations,

610
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm making fifty. That's awesome. So, without being too boring,

611
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: but give us a and I know it probably varies,

612
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: but give us a typical day of what goes in

613
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: your god from when you get up to when you

614
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: go to bed, or just just a version because people

615
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: right now are going, I'm sore too.

616
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: What is hughesy well, birchu musical this morning with coconut milk,

617
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: you know, with fruits like you know, blueberries and strawberries and.

618
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: Rock melon.

619
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Speaker 3: That's we say breakfast, you know, lunch might have avocado

620
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: on toast or something like that. And dinner try to

621
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: get a salad in. And you know, I am you know,

622
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm probably eating too much of that sort of process

623
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 3: and meat meat sort of thing, you know what I mean,

624
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: that's not processed non meat. I wonder about it. I

625
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: know it's a lot. It's everywhere now, you know, fake meat,

626
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. So I wonder whether

627
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: that's any good for me. I ate quite a bit

628
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: of that, but yeah, so is.

629
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Speaker 1: That where you get? Is that where you get? Because

630
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: all the buffheads listening all my bullfed bodybuild a weightlifter

631
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: powerlifter of mates are listening going, what do you get

632
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: your protein from? Hughsey?

633
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's probably your point. I don't

634
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: know where I get my plate hand from. You know,

635
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: I ate a lot of nuts. But am I getting

636
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: enough protein? I don't know.

637
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm not lifting many weights.

638
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: You know, my upper body strength is poor, There's no

639
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: about that, and I would like to improve that so

640
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: that my daughters don't mock my man boobs as they do.

641
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: So that is yeah, But you know, am I gigging

642
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: up bread? And I don't know, mate, But I tell

643
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: you what, I'm just not getting sore. And as a

644
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: fifty year old to not get sore around ten kill

645
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: me eleven kill minutes the other day, you know, I'm

646
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: just over four minute case and not sought at all.

647
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: I swear to God from the age of thirty, I reckon,

648
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: I've been sore after exercise and I'm now fifty running

649
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: that sort of distance and with at speed and not

650
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: for a second getting sore.

651
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable.

652
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: How are those once very chalky, vulnerable hamstrings?

653
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: They're fine. I tell you what.

654
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: My calf muscles, which I was probably from the age

655
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: of forty, I was getting real bad calf or just

656
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: a constant calf injuries, Like so I can never get

657
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: any momentum with my running. So because I would just

658
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: pull a calf, take a month, get over it, pull

659
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: a calf again, and I was like, that was really

660
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: basically shut down my running. And I'm not getting any

661
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: touch wood. I'm just not getting any calf injuries. A physicist,

662
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: I'd say that's the old man injury. There's nothing you

663
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: can do about it. You've got to accept it. Well

664
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: I don't. Well, this appears that I don't have to

665
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: accept it.

666
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: You know, there's this I mean, all my listeners are

667
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: bored of all the shit that comes out of my

668
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: mouth with this stuff. But you might not have heard

669
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: of this term. It's just called biofeedback, and all it

670
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: means is that your body's always telling you stuff. And

671
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: I believe that we should all I'm not talking about

672
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: with medicine and drugs, but I'm talking about with food

673
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: and exercise and sleep and lifestyle and hydration and coffee

674
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: and tea and booze or whatever. I think we should

675
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: all do some self experimenting to see what works well

676
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: for your body, because you know, there's a lot of

677
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: people who would not advise you to do what you did.

678
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who would advise you to

679
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: do what you did, which just basically tells us there's

680
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: no universal right. So it's trying to find what's the

681
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: best food strategy, exercise strategy. You know, how much sleep

682
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: do I need? How do I hydrate my body optimally?

683
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: And how much recovery time do I need between you know,

684
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: sets and reps and runs and all that kind of stuff.

685
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: And it's really individual. But people think there's this one

686
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: best program or this one best eating philosophy, and so

687
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: I always encourage people. If you're listening to Hughesy and

688
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: you go, I wouldn't mind giving that a go. I

689
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: would say, go, give it a go. Do like twenty

690
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: eight days. Do it to the latter though, don't half

691
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: do it, don't kind of do it. Don't do it

692
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: for four days and then get shit faced on the weekend.

693
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Do it for twenty eight days, or do it for

694
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: fifty six days or whatever timeframe you want, and then

695
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: literally just see how your body responds. Because this is

696
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, you can't get another one. The one that

697
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: you've got, the only one you can get. You can't

698
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: replace it. It's not renewable. And so I think that

699
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: the idea of you know, stepping out of doing what

700
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and most of us are doing what doesn't work.

701
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: And when you can go through fifteen or so years

702
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: of constant pain and exhaustion and post exercise muscle soreness,

703
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 1: and then you change one thing, which is not an

704
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: insignificant thing, but you change one variable, and then all

705
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, your physiology is different, your energy is different,

706
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: your performance is different. It's amazing.

707
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

708
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: Look, I'm I've got mates who work in the dairy

709
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: industry and they get angry at me for saying this.

710
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: And I don't like to say it too loadly listenership,

711
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: but you know, I wonder about dairy. I really do.

712
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: My brother works at Warmoo Cheese and butter factory, and

713
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: it's really angry when I questioned dairy. But I wonder

714
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: whether I wonder whether because I was a pescatarian, you

715
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: got a member for a long time, so I didn't

716
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: need any red made den eat each chicken for a

717
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: long time, and I was still getting sore, but go on,

718
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: the vegan is the difference.

719
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: So got rid of the fish? And is it the

720
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 4: fish or is it the dairy.

721
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: I don't know one of those two. I reckon getting

722
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: rid of one of those two. Maybe both, But yeah,

723
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: I wonder whether it's a dairy.

724
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: But I think this is that that's just a great question.

725
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm always saying to people. Don't believe me because I

726
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: say something, or you like me or you trust me.

727
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: Believe me when you take something for a test drive

728
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: and see what happens. And this is the thing when

729
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: and no disrespect to people in the dairy because my

730
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: old man used to marry marry manager joint called the

731
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Muey Dairying Cooperative Rights. And I grew up in the

732
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: middle of farms and my mum literally grew up on

733
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: a dairy farm, and so and I drink milk. But

734
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing is that everybody, especially

735
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to things like food or religion or

736
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: sport or politics or exercise, everybody lives in an echo

737
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: chamber and people are just you know, immersed in this

738
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: thing called confirmation bias, which means I'm not going to

739
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: listen to Dave Hughes because he doesn't fucking think like

740
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I think. Dave Hugh Hughes doesn't agree with me, so

741
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: he's twitter no. But that's what I'm saying. You can't

742
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: like this is this is the part of personal growth

743
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: and consciousness and self awareness is to recognize your own

744
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: prejudice and bias and go, look, this is what I think.

745
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. The problem is that but

746
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Is never there? Everybody Everybody is one.

747
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy the other day about

748
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: such an issue and he was saying, emphatically, this is

749
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: how it is. And I said, so, what you're telling

750
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: me is that everybody in the world that doesn't agree

751
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: with you on this, everybody is wrong. Everybody who doesn't

752
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: think like you in the world is wrong. And he

753
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: didn't want to own up to that, but that's what

754
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: he's saying. And I'm saying now, like even with me,

755
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot, done a lot, worked with

756
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of humans, educated myself, a lot, worked

757
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: in the space. You know, I owned multiple gyms, all

758
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: that shit. There's still way more that I don't know

759
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: than I do. And everything's an evolution and some of

760
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: the things I used to firmly hold on to as

761
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: truth or belief or knowledge or science ten years ago,

762
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I've now let go of because I realized that my

763
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: thinking or my belief was flawed. So if there's no

764
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of flexibility in our ideology or our beliefs, we

765
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: make ourselves unteachable. And if you're unteachable, that's fucking terrifying.

766
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, open minded. We've got to be open minded. We yes,

767
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: We've got to. You've got to be able to listen

768
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: to other opinions and not just just just just dismiss

769
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: them straight away out of hand and then go, I'm

770
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: never listening to that person again because they had that opinion.

771
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: It's just no one's going to learn that way.

772
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: He just yeah, absolutely, I want to take a left turn,

773
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: as I do. And so you get an opportunity to

774
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: sit one on one with the Deli Alama, one of

775
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: two or three people in Australia at the time. I

776
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: think that got that opportunity. And your big fucking question

777
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: is whether or not I'll bless your football club.

778
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: But his answer was great because he said I would,

779
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: I will, and bet it won't help. And that's what

780
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: he said, and he was right. He did, and it

781
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: didn't help. It still hadn't come good.

782
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: How long did you get to sit with him?

783
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: I've made have been ten minutes maybe, but you know,

784
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: I did feel a connection and I love, you know what,

785
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm the Buddhist way, I think generally is a good

786
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: way because just to see the smile and the laugh

787
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: on their leader makes that sort of part.

788
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: That's part of my philosophy as well.

789
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you feel like he sees the

790
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: ridiculousness of life life and he's able to laugh at it,

791
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: and that's always what.

792
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: I want to be able to do. So yeah, I'm

793
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 4: getting deeper. I really am starting.

794
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm annoying people about this, but I've gone into meditation

795
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: twice a day now and that's only a recent thing.

796
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: But I'm absolutely loving it. I'm just morning and night

797
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: set it in twenty minutes a time. It's a again.

798
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: You know, I want to go back to the Netflix,

799
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: I go, but this is I think this is a

800
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: game changer for me.

801
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: I've banged on.

802
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: About it and I was ben interested in Budhs philosophy

803
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: since I was at in my early twenties, you know,

804
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: over almost three decades ago. But I'm really starting to

805
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: invest in it now, just with myself, and I'm feeling

806
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: the benefits.

807
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: I really am.

808
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I just do that.

809
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Just quiet, Just find the quiet, get behind the noise,

810
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: and it's all noise in your head is all noise.

811
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: If you can manage your mind, I think you can

812
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: manage your life, you know, because it's it's such or

813
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: it can be such. As I said before, when I

814
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: ask an audience, you know, to put up your hand.

815
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: If you're an overthinker, every hand goes up and then go, well,

816
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. And who wants to be an overthinker?

817
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Will nobody? Who is everybody? So you know, generally the

818
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: root of overthinking, the underlying causes fear. So let's talk

819
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: about the fear. What he is scared of. I want

820
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: to be loved and valued, needed, accepted, popular, sexy, desirable,

821
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: and all of that shit is temporary, anyway, I think

822
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: part of this, let's go deep, Husy. Part of this

823
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: is really where does where does Hughesy finish? And where

824
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: does Dave hughes start. You know, there's there's the not

825
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: that you're disingenuous, but there's the Hughesy persona. There's the public, funny, lovable,

826
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: fucking alarican. And then there's Dave Hughes, the human being,

827
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: the conscious entity, trying to figure out what the fuck

828
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: life is about and what the fuck you're about in

829
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: the middle of that life. You know, when we live

830
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: in this duality of existence, which is the external world, situation, circumstance, environment,

831
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: are the humans Telly Radio stand up all these extern

832
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: stimuli and experiences, But where we live is internally. Where

833
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: we live is in our thoughts and our values and

834
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: our beliefs and our love and our compassion. And so

835
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: there's this concurrent existence, this duality, and trying to figure

836
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: out where does the external stop and where does my

837
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: internal world start? And what does that look like? And

838
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: where does where does Dave's stuff finish? Where does day's

839
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: brand and business and reputation and house and money and

840
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff which is not bad or good, it's

841
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: just stuff. Where does that finish? And where does Dave start?

842
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: And where does Dave get his sense of self from?

843
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I've got to the point where you know,

844
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about external internal, but actually

845
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: it is all internal, Like there's no external. We create

846
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: our all We create everything. There's nothing created outside our

847
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: own brains. It's all inside there, and everything else is

848
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: an illusional insides, an illusionle I know, I'm certainly getting

849
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: a bit, but it's like it is all noise. Everything

850
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: is noise created by ourselves. No one else creates the noise.

851
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 3: We create every single moment of our reality. No one

852
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: else creates it. No one creates my reality I do.

853
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: No one creates anyone's reality except themselves.

854
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: And that is what. Once you realize that, you go, wow,

855
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: it's everything. It's all up to me.

856
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: That's right.

857
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: No no other entity makes and it makes a choice.

858
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: I make every.

859
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: Choice, and that's it.

860
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: And what I want to do is get beyond even that,

861
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: in which I've started to do through this focus of

862
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: just living in the moment and realizing it's all noise

863
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: in my head, created by no one else. I decide

864
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: how loud the volume is or how low the volume is.

865
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: No one else can decide for me. No one else

866
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: can do it for me. I have to do it

867
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: for myself. And I'm turning down the volume and enjoying

868
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: life much more by doing that. And it's like I'm

869
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: not worry I'm worrying much less about the bullshit, which

870
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: is comparing yourself to others.

871
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 4: The whole time.

872
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: The ego I've been I've been a prisoner of my

873
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: own ego for a long time. And maybe it's it's

874
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: meant that I've got to where I'm at, I don't know,

875
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: But it's not enjoyable to do that. I much prefer

876
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: just to look at a tree and go, wow, that's amazing.

877
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: And when you're quiet in your mind and you work

878
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: on it constantly and you've got to make it a practice,

879
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to make it a lifetime

880
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: of practice, life becomes so much more enjoyable, you know,

881
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: even just making the school lunches every morning, which I

882
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: do because my wife is a teacher and she goes

883
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: to school and I make the lunches, which is just

884
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: a tedious job of just drudgery of day after day.

885
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: Once you turn your attitude around and go quiet, it

886
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: becomes a.

887
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Nice moment and it's yeah, I'm really into this at

888
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: the moment, and I hope I continue.

889
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love it. It's the yeah, the separation

890
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: of the internal and the external. And like one of

891
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: the challenges for us is that we grow up in

892
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: a collective culture and message that says, to an extent,

893
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: success is about what you have and what you earn

894
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: and what you own and what you do and what

895
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: you drive and where you live. And that's how people

896
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: are and it shouldn't be that, but that is how

897
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: people are evaluated. And as you I talk about the

898
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: subjective nature of being human, and one of the really

899
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: easy to understand explanations is, you know, we might have

900
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: ten thousand people listen to this episode, and although they're

901
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: all getting the exact same message, with the same intent

902
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: from the same people, probably no one is having an

903
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: identical experience of this moment in time, or this podcast

904
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: or this Dave Hughes experience. No one's having an identical

905
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: experience to anyone else, because we are the creators of

906
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: our experience. We are the creators of our reality.

907
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: We created all, We created all. And that's that's the

908
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: powerful message that I've sort of realized recently. There's no

909
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: one else creating my reality. I'm doing it myself, and

910
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: it's my decisions, my decisions. Every moment of the day,

911
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: I make the decision as to what I'm going to

912
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: think and what I'm going to dwell on or not

913
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: dwell on. No one else is making them for me,

914
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, it's but I mean, I'm not even

915
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: trying to consciously now make say I'm good or I'm great,

916
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: or I'm funny or I'm you know whatever, just go

917
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: beyond that.

918
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 4: I don't even need to. And it's funny.

919
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: The more that I quieten down, the more other people

920
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: are saying nice things to me. It's because I'm not

921
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: walking around desperate for attention. But it doesn't matter that

922
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: they're saying nice things because I think I don't even

923
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: need to say nice things anymore. I really, you know,

924
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm not perfect, but I'm getting better at it, you know,

925
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: and it's lovely.

926
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, it really comes down to awareness of self.

927
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: And I talk about my numerous shortcomings, but you know,

928
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: ego and self esteem stuff and the need for approval.

929
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: And you know, when I was a kid, I was

930
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: this morbaly. I was the fattest kid in my school.

931
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: My name at school was Jumbo. You know, all this

932
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: bullshit that you carry with you and and even even

933
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: when you succeed in inverted commas to a degree, it

934
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: took a long time for me, Like I owned I

935
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: had five different businesses and one hundred staff when I

936
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: was thirty years old and I was making lots of

937
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: dough in. Life was good. But in the middle of

938
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: all of that, I was still a fuck with I

939
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: was still anxious, I was still had low self esteem.

940
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I still couldn't get enough, or have enough, or get enough. Attentional,

941
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: We'll never get.

942
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: We'll never get enough. When you need to get enough,

943
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: You'll never get enough. There'll always be people better than you,

944
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: richer than you, stronger, new, farther than you.

945
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: You know, just your there's never going to be enough.

946
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Do you think part of the awareness or part of

947
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: the trigger for this for you, because it was for me,

948
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: was being around people who are successful in inverted commas,

949
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: who in the middle of all of their shiny existence,

950
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: their Hollywood like existence, which from the outside looking and

951
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: they were killing it, but when you get to know

952
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: them beyond that. So many of my clients over the

953
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: years that I work with were super duper wealthy and successful,

954
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: but simultaneously anxious and depressed and insecure and exhausted and physically, mentally,

955
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: emotionally and spiritually bankrupt. And you go from the outside

956
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: like what you would see externally was not at all

957
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: any indication of what was happening internally.

958
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you'd see very successful people who were bitter and

959
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: joyous and just nunhappy.

960
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: And it's like, what is the point? Honestly?

961
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: I look at some of the big example that is

962
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: James Packer, who's, like you know, was Australia's richest men.

963
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: But if you if you met James, or I did

964
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: a few times, you just came across as so insecure

965
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: and so just you could see how fragile his ego was.

966
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: And you could, you know, you could from my brief

967
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: and cannons with James Packer, I to hear that he

968
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: had problems, you know, down the track was just so

969
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: evident because of the ego that was just constantly needed

970
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: to be fed, and it's just it was never going

971
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: to end well. So it's just to get beyond that ego.

972
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: And I've had it, don't get me wrong, even still

973
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: to this day, I you know to that. This morning,

974
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: I pick up Twitter and someone says something that triggers me.

975
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: I want to respond, I don't. I look at it again.

976
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: And a friend of mine selling out the Sydney Opera house.

977
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm triggered, and I'm like, what is the point.

978
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Well, if you listen to Rogan, you know, he would

979
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: tell you, don't pay attention to that ship mate, don't

980
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: read it.

981
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: I know, I agree, I'm one hundred percent on that.

982
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: And it's just but the more we quite in the mind,

983
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: the more we just you know what, just this sounds

984
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: very deep, but just to just for us to realize

985
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: how amazing it is to be alive and just to

986
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 3: be able to breathe, and just what gifts were given.

987
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: The gift of life is just there's nothing else you need.

988
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: You have had a spiritual liking.

989
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: I even Jonko now.

990
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: No, but I like it. But you know, you think

991
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: about this, how many people have a moment in their

992
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: life where something goes horrendous, you know, an accident or

993
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: a tragedy, or a death, or an illness or you

994
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: know whatever bush fires or COVID even for some people

995
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: just the stuff, just the really hard shit in life.

996
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: And all they want. All those people want, understandably, is

997
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: all they want is what they had yesterday before all

998
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: this shit started. Yeah, if only I could. So what

999
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: they want is the life that they didn't really appreciate value.

1000
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: They desperately want that back because now they have a

1001
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: new regard and a new attitude and new psychology around it.

1002
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: And I always say to people with two on two fronts. One,

1003
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, don't wait for the tragedy before you step

1004
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: into your potential and your possibilities. But also don't wait

1005
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: for the tragedy before you have gratitude and awareness of

1006
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: how fucking amazing your existence is. Yes, like, in.

1007
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: Your existence is every moment we should be going, my god,

1008
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: look at this, I am spinning around through space on

1009
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: a rock.

1010
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: Look around me.

1011
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: This is amazing. And that appreciation is what you're saying.

1012
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 3: They're the gratitude of that. Everything else falls away, All

1013
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: the bullet falls away.

1014
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: You're like this. One of my mentors used to say

1015
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: to me, Hughes, you do it. Do a treasure hunt

1016
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: on your life. Yeah, go and do a treasure hunt.

1017
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Find all the good things, because you know, most people,

1018
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: if there's one hundred things in their life and one's

1019
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: not so great, but ninety nine are pretty good too, amazing,

1020
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: they'll focus on the one. It's really about where the

1021
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: fuck is your attention? Because where your attention is your mind,

1022
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: is your emotion, is your body is, And if your

1023
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: attention is on that bad thing that happened four and

1024
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: a half years ago, that's where you are. You know,

1025
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: you're not present, you're not here, You're not in the moment.

1026
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1027
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: So for me to a small example to do, I've

1028
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: got a TV show US We have a Problem, which

1029
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: is on its fourth season, coming back in February. But

1030
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: the ratings will come out every Tuesday or whatever, and

1031
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: I won't look at the people who are watching. I'll

1032
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: look at the people who aren't watching. I won't go Wow,

1033
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: like maybe four hundred thousand people watch that. I'll go, oh,

1034
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: look at all the people who didn't watch, you know, like,

1035
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: what the fuck.

1036
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: I'm a little kid who grew up in a commission

1037
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 4: house and.

1038
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: I've got a TV show on you know, a network,

1039
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: and it's making me miserable.

1040
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when that's the case, you know the problems

1041
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: not the TV show or the network. You know, you're

1042
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: the fucking problem. But we're all the problems, aren't we.

1043
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: So we've got to go. But I want to ask

1044
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: you a quick few questions before we go. So just one,

1045
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: give me, give Tiff and I and the listeners one

1046
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: minute on Hughes's parenting style.

1047
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: I am, I am. You know it sounds corny, but

1048
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: I want my children to be happy.

1049
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 3: And you know, my son's playing basketball under under thirteen's.

1050
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: He's freaking out, you know, And it's the corny thing

1051
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: to say. He's doing rep training. And you make sure

1052
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: you enjoy that.

1053
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: You enjoy it.

1054
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: You're out in court, you take those shots. You don't

1055
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: worry about it. You know, we're in the backyard. He's

1056
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: cracking the ships because he's missing free throws. And I say, mate,

1057
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: the real winners are the ones who stay in the moment.

1058
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: They haven't even they don't even think about the ones

1059
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: they've missed. They just they're right there. So that's one thing.

1060
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: But AND just love comedy in my house, and the

1061
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: kids are really into it as well.

1062
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 4: My daughter year old nine year old daughter.

1063
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: I went to get it some toothpastes out of their

1064
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: bathroom yesterday and there's a note on its on the

1065
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: door saying this is kid's toothpaste, only not to be

1066
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: touched by adults. I just love that she's taking the

1067
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: time to write these notes out. And yeah, so I

1068
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: just I want a lot of laughter in my house.

1069
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 3: And I just want the kids to have a good time.

1070
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: And you know what, they're watching Friends at the moment. God,

1071
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: they love Friends and I love Friends.

1072
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I think I watched all ten seasons of

1073
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Friends in about three months, about ten years ago, which

1074
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: is not a good admission, but I fucking I'd never like.

1075
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: It was already done by the time I started watching it,

1076
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: and somebody bought me the DVD series. Have you watched

1077
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: Friends Tied?

1078
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1079
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: And I found it quite addictive. But it's good to

1080
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: know that the kids in your house are creating boundaries

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Speaker 1: for you, Hughsy.

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Speaker 3: They there's very little respect going on, but in a way,

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 3: there's a lot of joy in there. They look, if

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00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: I could all the drugs that my kids appear to

1085
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: be on because they're so happy that, you know, I

1086
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: would make a lot of money, which obviously want that

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00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: to continue, their joy to continue.

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00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: And did you did you marry Holly because you needed

1089
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: a grown up influence in your life?

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00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 3: Or she says she was someone who is Actually she's

1091
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: obviously very attractive. And I do get a lot of

1092
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: comments about how bat and above my oriagin. I do

1093
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: appreciate that. And there was the famous time, my son

1094
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: at the age of seven, said, Dad, did you meet mamake?

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00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: He got famous? And it was hurtful at the time.

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00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: And I no, is it though, or is it just insightful?

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00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: What's insightful? I said, mate, you worked that out, but

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: you still can't you still take you half an hour?

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00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: Put a jump on, mate, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, she's very grounded and very she's school teacher. Now,

1101
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: she was a journ up the here of some but

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00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: she she didn't like chasing ambulances and she wasn't that

1103
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: keen on you know, getting a kid opportunity to be

1104
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: TV and stuff.

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00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 4: But she never really went for it. And I didn't

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 4: understand at the time, how do you not want that attention?

1107
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: So she didn't.

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00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: So and she's teaching grade one and she's very happy

1109
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 3: doing that. So yeah, she's very doesn't seek the limelight.

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00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: And it is very, very grounded. And it's always trying

1111
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: to tell me to be grateful when I get a

1112
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: bad review, you know, or someone someone says something hurtful

1113
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: about me in the newspaper, and she goes, look, you've

1114
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: got a pretty good life.

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: You need to stop winging.

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00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you're doing all right, you get

1117
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: you're going all right, Get over at housing Commission boy,

1118
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: Just fucking get some perspective. If everything last question, If

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00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: everything goes great on Planet Husy, everything goes awesome, things

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: work out, you go where you want to go, Things

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00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: unfold beautifully. What's happening in five years?

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: Mate?

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Speaker 3: You know what if I'm going to dream the dream

1124
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I don't know. I do a TV

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00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: or a comedy special which somehow gets picked up internationally

1126
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you know people, we don't

1127
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: have to explain to well overseas listeners who they have

1128
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: used you know already know. So it's happened to the OA.

1129
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 3: It happens. You know, Hannah Gadsby and Ussie Comic had

1130
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: a special that went international and then she was talking

1131
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 3: some very serious subjects in that special. But it does

1132
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: happen occasionally. So I look for anyone here from Netflix

1133
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: is watching. You know, I'm happy to give you a special,

1134
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: real cheap, put it on your platforms, and who knows.

1135
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: Who could go.

1136
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: We could go international, that would be fun.

1137
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: But otherwise, zen as mate, and you see me in

1138
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: the street, you'll see me smiling. You know it from

1139
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: too many years people have seen me in the street

1140
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: and yelled out, what's wrong?

1141
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: Here is it?

1142
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 3: You know, it will probably never happen because obviously I'm

1143
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: thinking about you know, those tickets I haven't sold, or

1144
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: those those.

1145
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: Ratings I didn't get on the TV. So no more.

1146
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: From now on, We're just going to walk around, smell

1147
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: on the flowers, appreciating the birds, singing and enjoying life.

1148
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: We're going to get you. We're going to send you

1149
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: a caftan, some Jesus sandals, a couple of a couple

1150
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: of dream catches, a fucking tambourine.

1151
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: My kids, my kids actually say enough of this, Guru,

1152
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: Guru bullshit Dad.

1153
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: Well mate, we really appreciate you being on the project.

1154
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: You're a ripper. Thanks for taking an hour out of

1155
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: your day. I know you're busy, and you genuinely are busy,

1156
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: and I know you get a lot of requests and

1157
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: we're nobody, but I appreciate you talking to us nobody's

1158
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: and taking the effort and bringing bringing the energy to

1159
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: this moment for everyone to listen to.

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00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: So thanks a lot, yours. I really enjoyed it.

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00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Thanks, thanks everyone to stay there. Hugey Thanks everyone,

1162
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: tif anything else. If I forgotten any housekeeping.

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00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: You never forget the housekeeping. You've done well. Heart's well done,

1164
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 2: gold Star for you.

1165
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, I do my best. Love your guts, everyone,

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Speaker 1: See you next time.