WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 24 April

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<v Speaker 1>This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you Cherry. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Traveling man Cave. We are in Western Australia tonight

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<v Speaker 1>on our way to Perth. Well, of course we're in

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<v Speaker 1>Perth now on our way to Calgooley and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to be there in a couple of days time.

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<v Speaker 1>What a weekend we're going to have. Our plan for

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<v Speaker 1>Anzac Day is something I've never experienced in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to be on the western side of the

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<v Speaker 1>country as seeing the sunrise here. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty moving and a lot of beachside services will take place.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you will get up before the light breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't, I hope you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>mark not just the fallen, those left behind, families change forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and a country all the better for their service. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the most significant day on our calendar. Strength and

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<v Speaker 1>love and thanks to any and everyone who has or

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<v Speaker 1>is currently serving in the defense forces of our country. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, when it comes to the election, one more

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<v Speaker 1>big event for us here on sky and it is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Tuesday night. Peter Dutton in the man Cave.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be in the man Cave four and ask me

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<v Speaker 1>anything session. Now you've seen a pub test, you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a people's forum. They're great, they're awesome, They're what we

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<v Speaker 1>do best. But obviously there are only in one location

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<v Speaker 1>at one time. Well, by Peter Dutton, the alternative Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>being in the man Cave on Tuesday night, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to take questions from you where you are now, Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest. Thank you so much to everyone from Nissa,

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<v Speaker 1>Baz and Victoria as well as Queensland. You follow outed

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<v Speaker 1>the emails last night. All right, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we spread the map that we go

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<v Speaker 1>from the tip of the North to Tazzy across to

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<v Speaker 1>where I am right now and all points in between.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you like me in Western Australia, now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the Green's capital of the Act, Tazzy South

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Northern Territory in particular, do you have a question

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<v Speaker 1>for Peter Dutton, not just what does you think about

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear Why does Elbow keep lying? What are you to

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<v Speaker 1>do for me on the cost of livy think slightly

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<v Speaker 1>outside the box so they can be as serious as

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<v Speaker 1>you choose. Pub test at Skynews dot com dot Au.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I need you tell about number and your location

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<v Speaker 1>because we are trying to work out and we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pull this together in a couple of days. But

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<v Speaker 1>unlike the ABC, there's not a committee of a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people doing it. It's our little team on top of

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<v Speaker 1>doing the shows, on top of the ourtowns. So we

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to send cameras all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to see people's faces from all different states. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't sit back. If you are like me, in

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia right now or in all of those other

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<v Speaker 1>places that I mentioned, send me an email tonight pub

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<v Speaker 1>test at skynews dot com that are you with your

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<v Speaker 1>question for the Ask Me Anything session that we will

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<v Speaker 1>have with Peter Dutton in the Man Cave on Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure he give us your telephone number two. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we can get in touch and it all works out quickly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Our team's doing a great job. Thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>of them working behind the scenes while I get to

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<v Speaker 1>have the fun job, which is talking to you tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it is just well eight days away from

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<v Speaker 1>a federal election, nine days they should say, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in a time warp. Yet, just nine days before the

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<v Speaker 1>federal election, how's this one point one three to two

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<v Speaker 1>medium people have already voted. Now, that was a number

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<v Speaker 1>which was day one, Day two. Today was day three

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<v Speaker 1>of early voting, So you got to wait another day

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<v Speaker 1>for those numbers to kick in. When those numbers kick in,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that number which we told you was going up

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<v Speaker 1>by about five hundred thousand a day, means we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be pushing two million. Now. Remember, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>polling places will not be open tomorrow for the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>reasons it's a public holiday. But but they will be

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<v Speaker 1>open on Saturday. Now, normally the pre polls are not

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<v Speaker 1>open on the Saturday before the election. But instead all

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<v Speaker 1>of the places that you've been able to vote Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be able to vote on Saturday, Okay, then

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<v Speaker 1>of course Sunday, and then we're back into it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way Monday, Tuesday, all the way to Friday. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who have voted early, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to vote early this time because you've got your

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<v Speaker 1>your mind made up. You know what the situation is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the stakes are, you know why we

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<v Speaker 1>need to change the country and the only way to

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<v Speaker 1>do that is to change the government. But some people

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<v Speaker 1>who run into sky news cameras today around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>what did they do with their vote? Regional's forgotten and

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<v Speaker 1>you have look at all their wonderful promises. Bugger all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the regional And Buddy Rue, how bad is the traffic?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't move from eight o'clock to about nine

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>We just need some common sense in these parties.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they just seem to go off on these

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<v Speaker 4>random little things, but no one's better off of what

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, two things. We know, I've got the best

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<v Speaker 1>job in the joint. But when you've got an apron

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<v Speaker 1>that says democracy sausage and you're handing out snags around

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<v Speaker 1>the country, Jonathan Lee might just have me pipped today,

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<v Speaker 1>might just have me piped. But they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Kutgooley and I'm going to overtake this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a great job that he's got. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to hear people. And it is so true about

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<v Speaker 1>those regional areas. It is so true about people over

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<v Speaker 1>the age of fifty. We all know that our politics

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<v Speaker 1>is played too close to the cities too much around

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<v Speaker 1>the populated areas without remembering, of course there one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty seats around the country. You have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to both parts of Tasmania. You've got to get to

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia and not just throw it all around in Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to go to the Northern territory. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course not just Darwin Alice springs a state that matters

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<v Speaker 1>in South Australia. There are many seats that are currently

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<v Speaker 1>held or up for grabs, or ones that might swap.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just a conversation inside Adelaide. Well said

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<v Speaker 1>by that bloke saying that particularly regional areas are not

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<v Speaker 1>getting the service and focus that they deserve. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>agree more. In terms of those that have voted early,

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<v Speaker 1>that more than a million people, most likely one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minion. By the time we wake up tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and get the formal confirmation, where is the early vote happening? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the AEC also gives us the information about the pre

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<v Speaker 1>poll locations where it's gone off the charts. It's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in where or in Western Sydney. Now interestingly, there this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposedly a relatively safe Labor seat, which either means

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<v Speaker 1>there's some vote being banked or when things were really

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<v Speaker 1>good for the Libs in the polls a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, where was one of those ones that they

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<v Speaker 1>thought they might be able to flip and out of

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<v Speaker 1>Western Sydney. So someone banking the vote. Are people lining

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<v Speaker 1>up to change the government? One thing we know is

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to wait till not this but next

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday to vote in the seat of Bowman in Queensland, Flinders,

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<v Speaker 1>in Victoria, Fadden in Queensland, Fowler, of course, the great

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<v Speaker 1>die Leey. Interesting and fascinating to note there again a

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<v Speaker 1>community that isn't going to wait until nine days away.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it, and they're doing it right now. The

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<v Speaker 1>seat of Herbert with our mate Philip Thompson. May his

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<v Speaker 1>margin grow. Remember when that was a marginal seat just

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<v Speaker 1>a few elections ago. He's now thumping it in and

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<v Speaker 1>around Townsville. He is one of the best and he

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the great future hopes of the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>National Party and Liberal Party around the country. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>I hope of the side Andrew Hasty here in wa

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<v Speaker 1>his seat of Canning. He's doing a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on to it. There's a fascinating fight happening,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in and around Codderslowe at the moment with the

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<v Speaker 1>fight around Curtin and getting rid of the teeal there.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's doing his bit and hopefully will be returned

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<v Speaker 1>and very strongly in the seat of Canning, Gordon, Forrest

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<v Speaker 1>and Griffith where the battle is the former Prime Minister's

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<v Speaker 1>electric which was taken over by the Grands Labor in

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to try to take it back. Now, on

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<v Speaker 1>top of all of this early voting question, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just people who go to the local community hall to

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<v Speaker 1>vote early. It's a number of people who won't physically

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<v Speaker 1>go to a polling place at all. And I double

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<v Speaker 1>checked this number and had to triple check it because

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<v Speaker 1>almost three million people have made an application for a

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<v Speaker 1>postal vote two point three so far, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole collection of other requests that the expectation is this

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<v Speaker 1>number could get, as I said, to the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of three million people, but right now two point three millions.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you put that together with a million and

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<v Speaker 1>a bit they've already voted, most likely one and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million that have already voted, you put that together

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<v Speaker 1>with the two and a bit almost three. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who are going to be making a

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<v Speaker 1>decision and going, frankly, nowhere near a democracy sausage. As

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<v Speaker 1>for where the leaders were today, the Prime Minister, well, amazingly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party is starting to bring back a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of talking points from the start of the election, which

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<v Speaker 1>might mean that they have to put the scare into

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<v Speaker 1>some people. What do they know behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know publicly. This is what he said today.

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<v Speaker 5>What we have worked towards along with the critical minerals facility,

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<v Speaker 5>with this additional one billion dollars that will take that

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<v Speaker 5>facility up to five billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course this is yet another example about the

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<v Speaker 1>spending of your money. Now remember under this government they

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<v Speaker 1>have taken us from the surplus back to the deficit.

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<v Speaker 1>The surplus, of course, that was the hangover of the

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<v Speaker 1>previous government, and then the reality of labor spending kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a deficit this year, next year, year after that,

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<v Speaker 1>the year after that, the year after that, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>for the next forty years. Remember a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>I told you about the carturn from the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jetsons well, that was set in twenty sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what will also happen with flying cars and

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie the robot and Astro the dog. A federal budget

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<v Speaker 1>deficit for Australia. That's the position that the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 1>has put us in. That is the expectation, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that population, which I remember, has already spiked under

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<v Speaker 1>this government, pushing up by hundreds of thousands, the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of a couple of minion in the couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years that they have been here and done before. For

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<v Speaker 1>this garbage, it's Australians. It's not Australians returning, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is tipping more people into the country. And those

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<v Speaker 1>more people add to every queue, every queue in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>be it a rental cue, waiting for a hospital, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get your kids into school, All of that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>As for Peter Dudden his announcement today, let's keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on what he was doing today.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone's accepting the fact that the scourge of violence, of

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<v Speaker 6>domestic violence, of financial coercion, every aspect in this debate

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<v Speaker 6>is just completely utterly unacceptable in our society and we

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<v Speaker 6>should be doing everything together to try and defeat it

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<v Speaker 6>and work toward better outcomes for individuals, but for our

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<v Speaker 6>country as well.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know the media, they do their best to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the current system in place. Firstly, ideologically, they of

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<v Speaker 1>course are to the left, the hard left or the

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<v Speaker 1>even crazy left, and they like the arrangement they currently

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<v Speaker 1>have with the Prime Minister because of course, not only

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<v Speaker 1>is it the side that they like, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>the side that gives them what they want, a little

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<v Speaker 1>drip feed of stories that means they're able to look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're right on top of their jobs, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that most of them, of course, are focused on

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<v Speaker 1>an area that was the only part of the country

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<v Speaker 1>to vote yes when sixty percent of the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the country was voting no. These are the people who, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they hate talking about the cost of living crisis. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because it's too real. They want to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>mythical conversations about energy and climate change as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the realities of important about where people get their food from. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for those that are about to go and run off

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<v Speaker 1>to the umpire, let me be clear, I'm not suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation about climate change or the environment is mythical

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<v Speaker 1>because it isn't true. I'm just saying they prefer the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that are a little more up there but down

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<v Speaker 1>here with you and I, which means this is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of questions that the Prime minister gets after a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible three years of being prime minister. Remember, for the

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<v Speaker 1>past two years, more than fifty percent of the country

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<v Speaker 1>is said we're headed in the wrong direction, and up

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty percent of the country we're saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a poor or very poor job. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the ugel booger of Donald Trump and suddenly twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people have changed their mind in the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Well, I'll show you tonight. There's a good

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<v Speaker 1>chance that in the next couple of weeks they might

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<v Speaker 1>change their mind back because this bloke is being exposed

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<v Speaker 1>by a liar, but not by the media who's traveling

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<v Speaker 1>with him.

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<v Speaker 6>Should the Commonwealth spend anything on helping WA secure an

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<v Speaker 6>NRL site?

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously? Yes. There was big news today in Western Australia

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<v Speaker 1>that the North City Bears will be coming back as

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<v Speaker 1>the Perth Bears to the National Rugby League. It could

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<v Speaker 1>happen as early as twenty twenty six. It'll all line

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<v Speaker 1>up with the PMG team which is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming in as well, more games, more fans, more opportunities. Awesome, Great,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the question you asked the Prime Minister. Meantime, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of nonsense today in and around Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the press gallery must kill off Peter Dutton's chance

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<v Speaker 1>of getting out our first gear. They must never give

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<v Speaker 1>him the opportunity to be able to get on the

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<v Speaker 1>front foot. He must always remain on defense because if

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<v Speaker 1>he remains on defense he can go. He cannot get

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<v Speaker 1>into attack. And we know, just go back to that

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<v Speaker 1>voice conversation that he joined the No campaign when it

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<v Speaker 1>was sixty forty. Yes, but he ended up standing there

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<v Speaker 1>on the night where the majority of Australians had seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>that argued it and agreed with him, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>they treat Peter Dutton like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it concerning to you that your pick for Immigration

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<v Speaker 2>Minister doesn't appear to know the current migration settings?

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<v Speaker 7>Was your answer yesterday on West to Rusale on the mistake?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you had to your office had to go and

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<v Speaker 1>clarify it. So was it a mistake? Labour's candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>Dickson Ali France and have recently resurfaced. She's called you

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<v Speaker 1>a monster. These what is your action of these posts?

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<v Speaker 2>Very popular, but you do actually have to win votes

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<v Speaker 2>to get into government to make it happen. Why should

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<v Speaker 2>people vote for you when you give the air of

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that's turned up not having turned his homeworking

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<v Speaker 2>on time.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't want to visit a site? I mean, haven't

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<v Speaker 7>you let your.

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<v Speaker 2>Team down by the way that you have proposed your

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<v Speaker 2>policies and failed to sell them.

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<v Speaker 1>See just one second, I'll tell you how this game works.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were able to drag you into these conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about did you do your homework? Have you prepared yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a nath? All of that, of course takes you away

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<v Speaker 1>from whatever it was that they were planning to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today. It's also perfect example about the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>psychological warfare game that they play. Now again, should he

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<v Speaker 1>be there and getting a tickle in the cuddle from everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course not? Should report us absolutely poke holes in

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<v Speaker 1>ideas being suggested by the major Candidate's great, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see it on the Prime Minister's side. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't do any of this stuff to the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they are only trying to do it to

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<v Speaker 1>show and we show you. What they won't show you.

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<v Speaker 1>See what they show you is the headline, and the

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<v Speaker 1>headline will be no, I am not unprepared Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be the quote to send the subtle message, jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>what is He's running out of ideas? He's not prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course it's a reaction to the preposition of

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<v Speaker 1>the question that they have been asked by the reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect example. Remember I showed you on Channel nine last

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<v Speaker 1>night in their debate. They were the one so asked

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Also a former police officer, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's made you a little bit too black and white,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too hard? He turns around and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of being a police officer. And then that

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<v Speaker 1>was spun by Channel nine the night after the debate

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<v Speaker 1>into Peter Dutton says that his experience as a police

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<v Speaker 1>officer is the reason why he can take on the

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<v Speaker 1>word you asked the question. Now, I get it. You

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<v Speaker 1>live in a busy life. Majority of people they are

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<v Speaker 1>watching this conversation right now, But I'm watching the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are trying to spin the ball. The people who

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<v Speaker 1>look down on this program, look down on people like you,

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<v Speaker 1>think that we are surplus to the conversation. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>the way Monique Ryan reacted to Laura Jays this week

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<v Speaker 1>because Laura was there to expose the double standard of

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<v Speaker 1>that person pushing too one side Instead, their entire media

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<v Speaker 1>strategy is that as long as the prime minister is

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<v Speaker 1>always on offense, then the opposition leader is always on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>If the opposition leader is always on defense, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>like the loser in an election. That's how they spin

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and they do it every single day. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here and tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>the polls are wrong now but they were right two

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. No, they are a reflection of the mood.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know who helps set the mood of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the source of information that you get. And I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that in a moment or two's time. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment to talk about the greatest prime minister

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<v Speaker 1>of all time getting ready for the great reelection. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine when this bloke gets re elected. If

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<v Speaker 1>this bloke gets re erected, he'll be the first Labor

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister re elected, all right, since Bob Hawk in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. He'd be the first prime minister of either

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<v Speaker 1>political party to go to two elections and win two

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<v Speaker 1>elections since John Howd in two thousand and four. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>the history that will be made, the bronze statues that

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<v Speaker 1>will be built to this man, the public holidays that

0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:49.360
<v Speaker 1>will be renamed. But he's got a glass jaw, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's because he only likes a fight that he can win.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyone who pushes back, you're going to copy it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said at the time, and I repeat tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>that I do not care that Anthony Aberzi fell off

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<v Speaker 1>a stage in Newcastle photos with everyone, Okay, I repeat,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not care that the Prime Minister fell over.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me think of the end of the Revenge of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sith. Wasn't that episode three in Star Wars, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is in cinemas because of the twentieth anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, the slow Moobidal. But what was interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me was that Anthony Abernesi lied about whether he fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a stage. Again, who cares, right, No one's choosing

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<v Speaker 1>their vote on whether we do he didn't fall off

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<v Speaker 1>the stage, right, And we've all had a little stumble,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've all had that thing where we're just walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the street and your ankle rolls and you start

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<v Speaker 1>wabbling and you feel like quite a fool. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a great feeling, especially when people are looking, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone TV cameras and photos. But remember what is worth

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<v Speaker 1>noticing is that he lies about things. He's lying about Medicare,

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<v Speaker 1>he's lying about the plans of the opposition when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the energy transition. But when he lies about

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<v Speaker 1>whether he falls off the stage or not, like he

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<v Speaker 1>did on the radio in Newcastle the same afternoon, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped back one step.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a deep fake, okay, Radio Ossie Biden. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>let's also get to why I'm talking about this again today,

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<v Speaker 1>because it all came up again. I don't know quite

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<v Speaker 1>under stand why we are reliving in the fourth week

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<v Speaker 1>of the campaign what was happening in the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of the campaign. But okay, maybe for some people it's

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<v Speaker 1>that boring. But the Prime Minister was asked about it

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<v Speaker 1>today and who that glass? Job? Baby crickety quick quick crack, like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>this bloke he's this was him today when he was

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<v Speaker 1>asked about it, and old Glass your Albow doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 7>He said this morning at the breakfast event that falling

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<v Speaker 7>off the stage had been the worst moment of the

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<v Speaker 7>campaign for you when you were in the Hunted Valleys

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<v Speaker 7>A joke, chill out.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, could you imagine if that was Tony Abbitt, Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Morrison or anyone else? How could you read a female

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:49.080
<v Speaker 1>reporter old dasshit in this message? You know? Right? But

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<v Speaker 1>because he's the one that he can't ever be on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, the reason I didn't call him

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<v Speaker 1>Ozzie Joe and I called him Ossie Biden was because

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<v Speaker 1>Ozzie Joe Bugner knew how to take a punch. Albo

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<v Speaker 1>does not. So today again that question was asked, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was a redo on whether he did fall

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<v Speaker 1>off the stage or not. What's the worst moment of

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<v Speaker 1>this campaign so far?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll probably falling off the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he turns around and says, actually, hang on,

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<v Speaker 1>Then again, no, I didn't, well I didn't he all

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<v Speaker 1>I did? You would like to Sorry, let's just double

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<v Speaker 1>check the tape again, because I can't work out from

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister right. It used to be each way Albow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to say that it's an elbow threesome, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and an albou threesome is when there's the truth, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the lie, and then there's the double lie. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I'll work on that metaphor over the weekend, but

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<v Speaker 1>I stand by it right now. A triangle of lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, appreciate who just gave me that idea. But

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<v Speaker 1>still just a double check whether the Prime Minister did

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't fall off the stage, of which I don't care.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's check the tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tim, who helps put the show together. He's the director,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure everything's going. He's running the Commonlaw sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a good idea. Might be time for a

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<v Speaker 1>new graphic, but no, until then, we'll stick by this, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which is each way elbow all right. The thing is now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just one way, it's not just two ways.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three ways about whether he did or didn't fall

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<v Speaker 1>off the freaking stage. More serious, something that matters desperately

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<v Speaker 1>in this election is what are you voting for? What

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.480
<v Speaker 1>are you voting against? Why you're voting for the government,

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you voting against the government, Why you're voting

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<v Speaker 1>for the opposition, why you're voting against them? Why you're

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<v Speaker 1>voting whinner party and what are you doing when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to your preference, right, Because I always think that

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<v Speaker 1>you should have not just an idea about what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to reject, but what you want to endorse as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reality of a vote. But for an awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, for some reason, they have been pulled

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<v Speaker 1>in by the lies the Prime Minister has been saying

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<v Speaker 1>around healthcare. Remember, up until the very start of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the start of this year, cost of living

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<v Speaker 1>was the number one issue in the country. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an issue that he was losing on because he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>around for the past couple of years. Remember he spent

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<v Speaker 1>four undred and fifteen million dollars on a yes, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the one who took fifteen hundred dollars off ten

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<v Speaker 1>million workers. But they know that. Yep, Labor Party, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about medicare. Change your subject. Media will go along

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Sure, they will count the number of times

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton goes to a petrol station, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to keep any sort of a running tally on

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<v Speaker 1>the number of times he stands in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>strengthening Medicare sign, which, of course the idea, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the logo of Medicare is now associated

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<v Speaker 1>with lay Ybber Party campaign tactics. Remember that is an

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<v Speaker 1>independent organization, but they're pretending it's part of the Labor Party. Right,

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>No one calls that rule out. But that's not the

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>point I'm about to make you. The point the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister has made many, many, many times, so much so

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<v Speaker 1>that he is probably sick of saying it, which means

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>people are they're only just starting to pay attention to it,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you will only need your Medicare card to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor. A simple prop to suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>every time you have a look in your wallet, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be reminded that it's the Labor Party who will make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you never have to worry about paying extra

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to going to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>All I need is this little green card. All I

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<v Speaker 5>know is a Medicare card.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is it's not true. This government, in its

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<v Speaker 1>three years, has seen the total number of people who

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>are able to bulk bill the entirety of their building

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor go down. Down right evil, nasty liberal party.

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>They're doing worse. They promise to try to lift it

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<v Speaker 1>back to kind of where it was before they took over.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what, even that could end up being a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, Mark Butler was at the National Press Club

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago, and it's normally a home game,

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a home ground game for a left leaning politician like himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But now with a week to go in the election,

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>when more than a million people have voted, when potentially

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe three million people have voted because they've filled out

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>their ballot papers already, the truth has been exposed that

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>under this plan there will still be plenty of people

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>who will need more than their Medicare to go Medicare

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 1>card to go and see a doctor. Roll the tape

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to remember this when you talk to

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>your family this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be Australians who will continue to be charge

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<v Speaker 2>to gap fee.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, sorry, that's slightly different. What did the prime

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>ministers say was the promise all they need.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this little green card. All they know is their

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<v Speaker 5>Medicare card.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I thought to the there's an asterisk care, there's

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>a maybe. And by the way, that number of even

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>potentially ninety percent of people being able to bulk bill

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>may not happen. Why because doctors are openly saying that

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>that won't be the system regardless of what the government

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>tells them to do, because it's not the government that decides,

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the GP that decides how much they bulk bill

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>versus how much extra you have to pay on top

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of the bulk billing and rushed in middle stump shadow

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Health Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is the Prime Minister has been out there

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.479
<v Speaker 3>misleading Australians everyday. Australians know that it has never been

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 3>harder or more expensive to see a doctor, and no

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 3>amount of waving around his Medicare card changes the experience

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that they're feeling on the ground right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth. This was a change the subject to

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<v Speaker 1>get themselves out of the book that they were in

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>because of the way that they handled the past three

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>years Economically. It largely worked because most of the media

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>was never going to call bs. He was allowed to

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>cover himself in the logo of an organization that, yes,

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 1>the government funds, but the Labor Party doesn't have a

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>right to pretend is it's branding. If that's the case,

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>then literally the Liberal Party, if they wanted to, would

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.239
<v Speaker 1>be able to wear camouflage each and every day and

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>stand in front of a tank and with a Liberal

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Party logo on it. It's a lie, and it's a

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>lie to change the subject. And even then the doctors

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>are saying that they won't deliver it. And it brings

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>me to the last thing I want to say to

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you tonight. You have to have the conversations with your family,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>not to browbeat them, not to make them feel bad,

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>not to make them feel stupor, but you need to

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>remind them, hey, hey, well, or let's get back where

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you were a couple of months ago, before they changed

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the subject, before they besked, before they started to spin

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like mad tops. And in fact, the number one source

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>of information about politics and current affairs in Australia is

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>not social media. It's not the traditional media, it's not

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the new media. It's family and friends. This was an

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>essential poll which was released just a couple of months

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>ago and it shows about the trust that people have

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>in the information and where it comes from. You can

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 1>see there the best part of what eighty percent of

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>people they believe that friends and family are the ones

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>they trust a little or a lot. That's more than newspapers, TV, radio,

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>more than social media. And it doesn't matter whether you

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>vote red, blue, green, orange or anything else. Guess what

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>it still is the number one thing that people trust

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to information about the news and information

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about elections. For three years, we have counted the grains

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of sand. For three years we have told you every

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>single thing this government has done to make life worse.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>If you need a reminder of the things to bring

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>up with those who may well have just been too

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>busy to pay the same attention as you can, I

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>go through the list for you. Don't forget here. This

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is a government that promised to make things better when

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>it came to cost living, but the reality was if

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you go the supermarketing, they're paying double then you did

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. Remember they were going to cut two

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>ee hundred and seventy five dollars off your power bill.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Will your power bill has gone up bye hundreds, probably

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars by now. The government has decided to

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>increase taxes to the highest ever levels on booze, cigarettes

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and petrol. Fifty cents in every liter of petrol is tax.

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Sixty three percent of one bottle of Bundy run is

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>tax right now, and the Prime Minister can't promise that

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.719
<v Speaker 1>it gets better in the next three years. Are you

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>prepared to repeat that pledge in another three years time.

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh, we certainly want people to be better off in

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 5>three years time.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to our schools, one in three Australian

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>kids in primary school and high school is failing the

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>minimum standards when it comes to reading, writing, mathematics. Would

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you rehire the people in charge of that system? Would

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you rehire people who say if you want to have

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about Australia Day and why you are prideful

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of the day because you care about the future of

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the country, you don't obsess about the day in the past.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's a culture war. Do you trust the

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>people who called you a dinosaur or a dickhead because

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you didn't change the constitution to the way they wanted

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you to vote. Do you really believe that because I

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>like this guy more than I like that guy, we

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>should hire all of these guys and girls for the

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>next three years. Yeah. Let's bring back the Communications minister who,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>along with the Prime Minister, wanted to censor the Internet.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's bring back the Energy Minister who is promising hundreds

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars more for renewables, which of course

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>means you ruin the land to save the atmosphere. Or

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>what about his left wing rival Tanya Plippasik, who's already

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>got a deal in place to pass the Nature positive

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>laws which would ruin places like Western Australia. Does anyone

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 1>want to hire clueless Clara now for the job she

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>currently does, which is all about saying were's doing something

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>about houses rather than actually building houses, going on television

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like she did yesterday saying cad Marc Cada Mark because

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>she didn't like it. You want Tony Burke to be

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in charge of immigration, borders and stacking suburbs over the

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>next three years. I've had enough of this bloke. I've

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>had enough of the gas lighting. I've had enough of

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the lives. I've had enough of the each way. I've

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>had enough of them looking down at us. So you

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>have the conversations this weekend, because people just two months

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>ago were ready to get rid of them. Perhaps after

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>two days of conversation with you, they will be again

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>quick break back with more here on Paulmurray Life. Thank

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you so much for watching wherever you're happen to be,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to our conversation with Christiy McSweeney, Darren Bunnette

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and then Lee Hansen live from Tasmania in the Battle

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to take down Jackie Lamby. On a second, thank you

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>so much for watching. I am in Perth tonight on

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>our way to caw Gooley this weekend and I'm going

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to reveal something to you a national icon, and I

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>mean icon. There will not be a single person watching

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>this show who does not know. And I'm going to

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>bet love this Australian who's going to be with us

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>in Cawgooley. That's all I can say. You thought it

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>was great when we had Daryl Braithwaite singing horses. We're

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>going to go up agear up a gear baby special

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>guest Cowgoley Sunday night. Tuesday night is when Peter Dutton

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>will be in the man Cave taking your questions. Ask

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>me anything. Now. We've got plenty of people who've given

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>us their answers on the East Coast, but I'd love

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to hear from people in Tasmania, South Australian Northern Territory

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>here around tonight in Perth, in wonderful Western Australia. Okay,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>your name, your number, your location, your question Peter Dunton

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>asked me anything Tuesday night in the man Cave. In

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, I'll be asking Christy McSweeney and Darren Bunnett

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever I want, because that's the joy of being the

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>host and then being the guests. Love you to see

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you both this Thursday night. So I'm going to start

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with you first, Darren, which is did the medi Care

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>medi scare lie get a crack and a bit of

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>an own goal by what the healthinesster said yesterday? And

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I know this deep into the game, not as many

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>people will hear the truth as opposed to the lie

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that's gone around the world a few times now. Was

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that a moment that well they would be hoping happened

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in the last week, not in the second last week?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it happened in the first Sky debate, Paul, when

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 4>there was someone from the audience asked that very same question,

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 4>which was debate number one. So I think Peter Dutton

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 4>asked the question back to the woman in the audience

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 4>that did you need to take your credit card as

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 4>well as your Medicare card?

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 4>I did. So It's not the first time this piece

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 4>of information has been made public during the campaign. The

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 4>problem for the opposition is that it hasn't got any traction.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 4>And to be honest with you, this is the third

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>week in a row we've sat here and said there's

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 4>not any traction for the opposition and that's the problem.

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 4>That they still don't have momentum, and they still manage

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 4>to have the stories each day predominantly about them, and

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>that's been the drama that at the start of the year,

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 4>the story was about Albanesi and his government, and I

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 4>watched the bit of your show before was waiting all

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 4>of the ministers, that they've got their own records, they've

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 4>got their own list of what you would call non achievements,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 4>that people were aware of all of that, But a

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 4>new story and a new narrative has taken over, and

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 4>that's the problem that the opposition has. With a week

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 4>to go, they're not necessarily in much stronger a position

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 4>than they were at the start of the campaign.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, as you also noticed, I said, as I was

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>mentioning about how that happens, which is the gatekeepers to

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>information in terms of the establishment mainstream and access media.

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But Christy, again, does Liberal Party have the ability to

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>call bs? I mean, there's been in all of those debates,

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>someone calling bs in and around medi scare, but the

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, even after it is said to his face

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>in a debate, continues on with the lie, the shamelessness

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of the line.

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 7>Look, it is a lie, and as Darren said, it

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 7>was exposed in the first debate. There's not an Australian

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 7>in the country who goes to a GP or goes

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 7>to a medical service and doesn't have to pay, unless,

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 7>of course, you go to a public hospital which is

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 7>funded by the States, of which doctors working in a

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 7>public hospital don't have a Medicare number. So that point,

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's null and void Medicare. And I think

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 7>the government hopes that people bank on the confusion between

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 7>the cost shifting of health services. Who pays for impatient,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 7>who pays for outpatient and so the point of that

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 7>is the Government's been very skilled at distilling their scare

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 7>campaign into one message. Now, yes that message is false,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 7>but the opposition hasn't distilled their rebuttal or their counter

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 7>attack into something equally as simple. I've heard really good

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 7>speeches from Anne Rusten yesterday, the shadow Health Minister. I've

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 7>heard really good speeches from Angus Taylor. I've heard the

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 7>right narrative and I've heard the right sentiment, but I

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 7>haven't heard the correct messaging. That's simple, that's non complex.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 7>And you know, Tony Abbott was so successful stop the

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 7>boat's acts attacks, labor has been very successful. Where for childcare, medicare,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 7>for rising your wages? In the last twenty twenty two campaign,

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 7>there's been a vacuum of well, what are those messages

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 7>for the coalition. There's been really good assessments and really

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 7>good speeches made, but it hasn't been distilled to that

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 7>messaging framework.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go through a speed round here, because

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>there's quite a few little bits of assessment that I'd

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like from you guys. Why is this campaign so ugly?

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And by that, I mean there's always been madness, and

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>there's always people that get a little bit too excited,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>too close to the line. But we've had camera phones

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for a long time now. But the idea that somebody

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>was assaulted at a polling place yesterday, that somebody was

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>arrested because of having a knife, another person kicking over signs,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>people punching at public forums, why is it this wild?

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Because it does feel wild alone all the people ripping

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>into the posts. Christie, is this wilder than what you

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>experienced three years ago?

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Perhaps it's not wilder. Perhaps we are just seeing it

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 7>more because of the media concentration and the immediacy of

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 7>social media. These things have always occurred, but perhaps I

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 7>think the political environment has becoming more and more binary.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 7>People on the fringe of the left and people on

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 7>the fringe of the right engage in extreme behaviors, and

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 7>we've certainly have seen the evolution or the acceleration of

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 7>extreme fringe groups on either binary position, whereas we probably

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 7>didn't have that in Australia, you know, twenty years ago

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 7>when I first started doing that. So that fringe element,

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 7>combined with we're able to see it more now because

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 7>of social media, makes it feel like it's more and

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 7>more common.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Darren, is it worse? Does it seem worse? Again?

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want us to get to a level where

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>we can all agree it's officially worse, which is things

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>getting even more sort of interpersonally serious. But it does

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like Jesus all auto agra. I mean, you know,

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like the person running against Dutton for labor in Dixon

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>with the Nazi staff that you know, it's just every

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>single day there's some version of it. And look, obviously

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it turns people off, but it does feel a little wilder.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But you were there in the Gillard years, and I

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>remember twenty ten was pretty wild.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 4>We couldn't get through a day without someone throwing a

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 4>sandwich at my boss back in the good old days.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>But look, I don't think it's worse, to be brutally honest.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 4>I think that social media and other forms of recording

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 4>events are far more widespread than what they were. It

0:38:55.360 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 4>doesn't kind of mitigate the fact that there's a lot

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 4>of anger out there in the community. I think it's

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 4>always been there, but people feel a bit more in boldened.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I think that people now feel that they can run

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 4>up to an event, even if they don't have an

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>official invite. They'll talk their way in. They know that

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 4>the cameras will follow them. I think there's a little

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 4>bit of that, and that comes from all sectors of

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 4>the kind of the hard left and others. It's I

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.280
<v Speaker 4>don't think we can point the finger in any particular direction.

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 4>But even today there was some stuff out of a

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 4>candidate forum in the seat of Kuyong that was a

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 4>little bit ugly that there's lots of pieces that disturb

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 4>everyday ordinary peace loving Australians that they look at this

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 4>and I think even both leaders have said it, but

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 4>the greatest thing about our democracy is we don't have

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 4>armed guards at ballot boxes that people can support different teams,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 4>that you can run up on the day, there's no pressure.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>You can cast your vote and you can move on

0:39:58.560 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 4>and I hope we never lose that.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Now in the second we're going to talk to the

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>great Lee Hanson, who is hoping to take down Jackie

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Lamby more importantly when a spot in the Senate for

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>herself and of course serving in the Parliament as the

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Tasmanian Senator for one nation. I think she's the smoky

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of this election. I also think potentially a legalized cannabis

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>person will be elected from somewhere. I hope not Victoria

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.760
<v Speaker 1>because this would be how many parties or rebad jiggings

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>in a row for Fiona Patten. But that's a place

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>that has got a couple of people elected to the

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Upper House before. So Christy, where do you think there's

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a smoky be at a particular party that no one's

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Remember a couple of elections ago. What was

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it the Australian Sporting Party or something got up before

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>there was a revote here in way.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 7>Look, I'd watched Lee Hanson taking on Jackie Lamby. I'm

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 7>also really looking forward to watching see how the contest

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 7>pans out between One Nation and Clyde Palmer in Queensland.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm also looking at a couple of seats in Western

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 7>Australia where the swing against Labor in the state election

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 7>was into the mid twenties. And that's particular seats like

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 7>has Luck, which has a very strong One Nation vote

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 7>as well and a strong Palmer vote. Let's see how

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 7>the preferences fall they're combined with that twenty five percent

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 7>swing against Labor in the state election and seats like

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 7>pers Labor is tracking ahead so far. But you know,

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 7>I will say the polls are all within a margin

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 7>of era. They're very very tight. It's still anyone's rights.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 7>It's a preference algorithm, and the major party polls are

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 7>still within that margin of era. So really interesting. We're

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 7>in for a very very interesting night.

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>My oath. Now I have a proper long, deep and

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 1>fighting conversation in the last week of the campaign, but Darren,

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 1>give me an idea bumper sticker. Where do you think

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a smoking in the Senate?

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I think the number six spot in most states is

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 4>up for grabs, and there's a couple of different reasons

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.479
<v Speaker 4>for that. In some states it always is Victoria last

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 4>time offered up Ralph babbittt. We've seen South Australia over

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 4>a long period of time Tazzy over a fairly long

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 4>period of time, and I think just with the Trumpian

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of yeah, the pincer movement that Dutton's found himself in,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that number six spot is up for grabs

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 4>everywhere and it's going to deliver at least one or

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 4>two smokies. And it may well be that one nation

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 4>picked them up, but it could just as easily be,

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 4>as you say, someone from a cannabis party or a

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 4>legalized cannabis party, or maybe even Jackie Lamby picks one

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 4>up in South Australia with Rex Patrick. But who can say.

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 4>And it's entirely possible that Lee Hanson gets there in Tazzy.

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be. I think the Senate race, as

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 4>always is going to be fascinating. But Hanson's decision to

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 4>preference the Libs in one hundred and twenty three seats.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 4>I think it is that could kick up something in

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 4>the Lower House as well. So for us political tragics,

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 4>there's always something to keep us occupied.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Paul correct or the result that we all thought would

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>be the case ends up being the case. All right,

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:07.919
<v Speaker 1>for we need to talk about next week. We still

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>do so thank you guys, have a wonderful weekend. Or

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>at quick break back with more. Let's not talk about her,

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk to her Lee Hanson, the One Nation senator

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>candidate wanting to knock out Jackie Lamby but more importantly

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>standing in our own two feet for the people of

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Tazzy next. Every now and then there is someone in

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Australian politics and you get a sense it's going to

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>be around for a while, but also it's going to

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>be a bit of a rock star. I think that

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about Lee Hansen. She is running for One Nation in

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Tasmania and we are throwing as much as we can

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>behind her because it's about time Tasmania had somebody who

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't just fire up, but somebody's actually responsible representing them.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And Lee Hanson joins us. Now she's in Richmond in

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Tasmania right now, how's the campaign made? Just a week

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and a bit to go, But of course people voting

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>as we speak, they are, Hi, Paul, it is.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>It's been busy the last few weeks and been on

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 2>polling pre polling booths today where all hands on deck

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and the countdown is on.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, give me an idea about the types of

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>issues that people start to talk to you about that

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>are just the obvious about, you know, cost living, you

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>know all the stuff that we all know. What is

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that when they know it's you that they

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about. Yeah.

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Look, we've actually been traveling this state over the last

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>week and a half and getting around and speaking to

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the locals and Tasmanians, and to be honest, Paul, it's

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>been heartbreaking listening to the different stories. Tasmanians feel that

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>they've been left behind. The way of life has changed significantly,

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're worried about their children's future just as much

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 2>as I about mine. So yes, the cost of living, housing,

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>accessibility of affordability, education and health are huge on the

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 2>agenda here in Tasmania. There are naturally some other sensitive

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and Tasmania specific topics which obviously hearing a lot of

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>concerns about you know, how do we support our forestry industry,

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>our salmon industry as well our mining industries here down

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>in Tasmania too. So it is heartbreaking hearing the stories

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>as people come up and have been asking for help,

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>they want change, They're looking for change and have been

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 2>seeking that in me, which has been fabulous.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is the thing where look, you know, we

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>love Tasmania, done plenty of shows there, but a lot

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of people who haven't been in a while they need

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to be reminded Tasmania is many things within itself, right.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.720
<v Speaker 1>We know literally that North is different than the South.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>We know that literally there's different public holidays at times

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>between the North and the South, and you obviously get

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>different things in different places. But let's talk about yes,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like almost in a tactical sense, right, which is that

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.959
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Lamby seemingly has been able to make the most

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>out of the North. Is that where you see people

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>need to change their minds tactically. Where are you focused

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.879
<v Speaker 1>at the moment as the most fertile ground for one

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>nation and for your candidates? Look to be.

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Honest, the support for myself and my other five Lower

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>House One Nation candidates here in Tasmania has been felt

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 2>really strongly around the whole state. I think people are

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>looking for change across the whole state and getting behind

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>One Nation. I do think One Nation's biggest support is

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>obviously in the rural and regional remote regions, particularly in

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the north and northwest and far south, because that is

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>where they're being hit the hardest in regards to the

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>cost of housing and the loss of jobs and these

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 2>big issues such as salmon and farming, salmon and forestry

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 2>which has been hot topics. So they're looking for people

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>for these political parties to support them and not boycott

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 2>them or throw them under the bus. And that's what

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>we're offering. The difference with One Nation being family values

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 2>for so across the whole state wholeheartedly, but definitely in

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the rural and regional remote areas in particular.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is it and not those areas because

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the overall size of population in the state they matter

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>even more. It's why it's a fascinating conversation, really interesting

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.320
<v Speaker 1>political place to discuss. I know that a particular passion

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for you is an education as well, because you've seen

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the worst in the wokest of the education system, haven't you.

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I have.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I've worked in the higher education system, which certainly was

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>illuminating and it taught me a lot some great things

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.959
<v Speaker 2>that we do and we offer here within this state.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 2>But it's also taught me some areas that need some

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>critical attention and support across our state, particularly in Tasmania

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>as well. And then on the other hand, being a

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>mother with children going through the primary school and seeing

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 2>what they're taught and the concerns in regards to the

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 2>national curriculum, as well as seeing our teachers in need

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 2>of help and wanting support in trying to port our

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 2>children as well. So for us and here in Tasmania,

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent of our children leave school being illiterate. Now

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a number of reasons contributing to why that be,

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>but that is a huge problem. And if you think

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 2>about if fifty percent of them are leaving I literate,

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>we are not setting them up for success for their

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>future and we are not setting them up for success

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 2>for the future workforce. Now you think about a fifty

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.760
<v Speaker 2>percent of literate, what pathway and we have the lowest

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 2>uptake of students then going into university when we are

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>an island, a state of our own that needs to

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>be sustainable. So our critical jobs such as the health industry,

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 2>or our teachers in education or engineers, those jobs we

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 2>need to attract and retain and build in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the lowest pipeline already. So then and then

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<v Speaker 2>you think at the other end, when they're coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of university, a lot of these jobs have university degrees,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't doing the placements to actually learn what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to work in the real world, and then when they

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<v Speaker 2>hit the workforce, they get a big shock in the

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<v Speaker 2>face because it's not what they thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Take note. This is why I say Lee Hanson she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be something very special. She already is, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly in the world of politics, right she's the one

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. Nobody else is more information on the

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<v Speaker 1>One Nation website. All the best lay We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you again, Thank you, Paul, Bye bye. That's our show

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<v Speaker 1>for tonight. We'll see a Sunday in Kowgolly