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Speaker 1: Good morning Melbourne. It is right on eight thirty. You

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Speaker 1: are on the air with Jason and Lauren Clint here

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Speaker 1: as well. We're doing it. Thanks John, mates. It's she

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Speaker 1: already express.

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Speaker 2: Look bail reform, it's front of mine right now. Given

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Speaker 2: the wave of crime that we've seen amid Victoria's youth

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Speaker 2: crime crisis, Jacintra Allen has promised to do something about it,

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Speaker 2: and just moments ago she made this announcement.

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Speaker 3: Today we are bringing in the toughest bail laws in

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Speaker 3: the country. We are putting community safety first and foremost

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Speaker 3: in bail decisions, and we're also reversing that change where

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Speaker 3: romand or bail was seen as a last resort for

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Speaker 3: youth offending. So that's a key change and a key

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Speaker 3: change that we can make immediately.

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Speaker 2: She's also announced a ban on the sale of machetes.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's long overdue, long over It's taken far too

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Speaker 4: long to get to this.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunate, Lauren. There's been so many families across this

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Speaker 2: great state of ours impacted. One of them is the

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Speaker 2: Gordon family. Natalie Gordon has been kind enough to join

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Speaker 2: us today now. Breakingly, her brother who was just thirty

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Speaker 2: three years of age, just thirty three. Let that sink in.

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Speaker 2: He was a doctor. He was stabbed and hit by

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Speaker 2: a car while he pursued thugs in Doncaster who'd broken

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Speaker 2: into his home. Natalie, thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: What's your reading? What's your reaction to the news The

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Speaker 2: premier has just just broken.

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Speaker 5: Just about time, you know, finally, Yes, she's listening, as

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Speaker 5: everybody is aware, I've been working tirelessly over the past

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Speaker 5: over twelve months to get you know, change his NTE.

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Speaker 5: It's great to hear this. It is great to hear

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Speaker 5: that she is finally listening, she's starting to act. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: I still don't think this will be enough really. I mean,

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Speaker 5: failing for these youth offenders is one thing, and obviously

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Speaker 5: tightening them bail laws will hold them in remard until

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Speaker 5: they get into court. But once they get into court

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Speaker 5: they still believe in rehabilitation and are just placing them

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Speaker 5: on community based orders.

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Speaker 3: The community is.

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Speaker 5: Still at risk because unfortunately they don't have any respect

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Speaker 5: for anybody.

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Speaker 6: Natalie.

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Speaker 4: I mean I remember watching the news stories about your

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Speaker 4: brother and what an incredible man he was, and I

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Speaker 4: know Melbourne grieved with you during that whole process.

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Speaker 6: What happened to the people that did this to your brother?

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Speaker 6: Where are they?

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Speaker 5: It's still ongoing, so they are in remand but it

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Speaker 5: is still ongoing court case.

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Speaker 2: How has it impacted your family, Natalie, Because your brother

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Speaker 2: looked like an absolute legend and he was doing some

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Speaker 2: remarkable work in the community.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he was a buddy legend. I tell ya, it's unimaginable.

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Speaker 5: You you can't explain the damage this is done to

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Speaker 5: our family. You know, every single day is a constant

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Speaker 5: struggle to just put on that brave face and continue on,

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Speaker 5: because unfortunately, although we feel like our entire lives have

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Speaker 5: just stopped, they haven't. The world still keeps turning. We're

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Speaker 5: still expected to show up and do things. And I mean,

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Speaker 5: I lost my best friend that day, Natalie.

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Speaker 1: Natalie, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 6: And these were kids. They were teenagers, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yet they were I can't I can't imagine what

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Speaker 1: you and your family are feeling or going through. But

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Speaker 1: all I can say is, like Mike, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I've got anger this morning after hearing the announcement. I

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Speaker 1: just I feel like it's been used as a political football.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're doing something now, and I just

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Speaker 1: don't get why it's so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you also have to say that she's listening.

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Speaker 1: Finally, I don't think she had a choice, Clint. I

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Speaker 1: think that's all anybody in this city.

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Speaker 2: We've been calling for her and the government to do something,

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Speaker 2: and she's doing a long time.

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Speaker 1: For a long time.

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Speaker 5: I have to agree. I have to agree it is

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Speaker 5: a political football. She is putting on a front because

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Speaker 5: she knows she's a very unliked woman. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: have repeatedly asked for her to sit down talk with me.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I'm not an unreasonable person. I just want to have

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Speaker 5: a conversation, offered some suggestions from a real victim's voice,

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Speaker 5: but she flat out refuses. But then we'll offer her

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Speaker 5: condolencence to my entire family in an interview only a

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Speaker 5: few weeks ago. Not before that, though, because she now

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Speaker 5: knows that this backlash is catching up with her.

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Speaker 4: I'm like I said, I think I think we all

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Speaker 4: felt our heartbreaks watching the story of your family and

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Speaker 4: your brother, and hopefully today at least is a step

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Speaker 4: in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Natalie, do you feel safe, No, not at all now.

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Speaker 1: I think any of us do in Victoria at the moment, Quinn.

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Speaker 5: No, it's an unfortunate situation we find ourselves in, but

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Speaker 5: it isn't safe. It's not safe to go to the supermarket.

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Speaker 5: It's not I don't even feel safe watching my kids

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Speaker 5: at their junior sporting events.

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Speaker 4: Well, like I said, hopefully this is a step in

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Speaker 4: the right direction. And Natalie, we are so sorry for

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Speaker 4: your loss and for everything your family has gone through.

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Speaker 4: And you're absolutely right, this has taken way too.

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Speaker 1: Long and I know today will be a hard day

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Speaker 1: just bringing up everything for you guys, so we're sending

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Speaker 1: out our thoughts and prayers of your way, and.

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Speaker 6: We really appreciate you jumping on with us this morning.

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Speaker 5: Natalie, no worries. Thanks guys, Thanks thankntally