WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 16 December

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<v Speaker 1>Late Welcome to the late Base.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the not so late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Liz Storre and I'm so glad you're here tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me on the desk is.

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<v Speaker 2>None other than Joe Hildebrand and Gabriella Power, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're in for a good time. Coming up later

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<v Speaker 2>in the show tonight, Tim Pallace, inarguably the worst treasurer

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Decides to quit.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended down his worst budget on Friday, and on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday he decides, you know what, I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck living in the rubble that I created for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also coming up in the show tonight, an Indian cricket

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<v Speaker 2>commentator gets in trouble for being racist.

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<v Speaker 3>Towards an Indian cricketer. Will unpack that for you because

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<v Speaker 3>it's as confusing as it sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on and outgoing first Lady Old Biden gets told

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<v Speaker 2>off by a kid for saying Happy Holidays instead of

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas. But first to the States, where, unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>living under a rock, you would have seen all this

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<v Speaker 2>conundrum about drones.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we under attack? Is it Iran? Is it Russia?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's China.

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<v Speaker 2>We're told that flocks of up to fifty drones are

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<v Speaker 2>being seen in New Jersey, in Maryland, in Virginia, over

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<v Speaker 2>these major cities and in some cases military bases. So

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<v Speaker 2>the theories as to what's really going.

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<v Speaker 3>On are absolutely running rife.

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<v Speaker 2>So CNN decides to get an aviation specialist on board

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<v Speaker 2>to explain to everyone, calm down the nation and tell

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<v Speaker 2>us what's actually going on.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm hearing that from FBI is we don't see

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<v Speaker 4>a threat here. And look, honestly, every video I've seen,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've spent the last couple of days looking at

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<v Speaker 4>every one of these videos video I have seen on

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter on the Internet are all airplanes.

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<v Speaker 5>They're literally all airplanes.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them will show an airplane that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>stable out there and says that's a drone, And actually

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<v Speaker 4>it's an airplane flying towards you at thirty thousand feet

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<v Speaker 4>and I can see the lighting on it. And if

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<v Speaker 4>there are drones out there, by the way, and if

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<v Speaker 4>any of these pictures that they have shown are actual drones,

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<v Speaker 4>these drones then are complying with FAA lighting requirements, agreeing

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<v Speaker 4>on the right a red on the left with a

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<v Speaker 4>strobe and so it's not a ron, it's not aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>If there are drones, my guess is if there are

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<v Speaker 4>drones again, because again all I've seen are airplanes, then

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<v Speaker 4>it is more than likely some company that's out testing

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<v Speaker 4>drones or something like that and has no requirement to

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<v Speaker 4>tell the public that they're doing it, because they're actually

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<v Speaker 4>operating these things legally. There have been no accusations of

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<v Speaker 4>illegal operations.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't believe you're lying on Zee says they're just airplanes.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't people see that?

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<v Speaker 2>To which eternal troll Elon Musk helpfully shared is graphic

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<v Speaker 2>of different types of airplanes, clearly inferring.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, which one.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it that people are supposedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Mistaken for drones? And why is it The three thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people in New Jersey have absolutely flooded the hotline, very

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about these masses of drones that they're seeing over

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. Well, there's another expert. His name is Mayorcus

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<v Speaker 2>and he is the Secretary of Homeland Security. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>the government. He's got to know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 7>There are thousands of drones flown every day in the

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<v Speaker 7>United States, recreational drones, commercial drones, that is the reality.

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<v Speaker 7>And in September of twenty twenty three, the Federal Aviation Administration,

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<v Speaker 7>the FAA changed the rules so that drones could fly

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<v Speaker 7>at night, and that may be one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 7>why now people are seeing more drones than they did before,

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<v Speaker 7>especially from dawn to dusk. And so that is the reality.

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<v Speaker 7>But I want to assure the American public that we

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<v Speaker 7>are on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to assure the American people we are on it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have absolutely no idea where they've come from or

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>We are on that PA control.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this so much.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, firstly, if the CN guy has found out through

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<v Speaker 8>his own extensive online investigations, he was just all airlines,

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<v Speaker 8>They're just all airplanes. Can you tell the FBI one

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<v Speaker 8>in the government seems to know what I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 8>I love how he's saying, like, yes, my sources from

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm hearing in the FBI, there's no threat to

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<v Speaker 8>publicer what the FBI is saying, the public statements that

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<v Speaker 8>media release.

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<v Speaker 5>He's pretending he's got a deep throat.

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<v Speaker 3>What is this called?

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<v Speaker 8>And then and then of course you've got the guy

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<v Speaker 8>who says, oh, you know, this is all just you know,

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<v Speaker 8>perfectly naturally, there's nothing to say here, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we've made we made flying drones legal at night in

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<v Speaker 8>September twenty twenty three, so.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes absolute perfect.

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<v Speaker 8>Sense that they would suddenly all come out in December

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>What is it Santa's Christmas slanting?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, like this is the thing, like all these people say, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 8>it's just If it's just that, then why isn't the

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<v Speaker 8>person doing that? Like surely, like does air do aerospace

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<v Speaker 8>officials in the US.

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<v Speaker 5>Not know where all the airplanes are is?

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<v Speaker 8>And there's someone in I don't know, let me think

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<v Speaker 8>a tower of some description that could maybe control the

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<v Speaker 8>flight patterns of aircraft, like a control tower. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 8>could then say, yes, all these drones that people are

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<v Speaker 8>seeing actually fit the exact pattern on our radar screens

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<v Speaker 8>that we are directing, because that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 5>We're a control tower.

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<v Speaker 7>We are a.

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<v Speaker 8>Tower that controls air traffic. But no one seems to

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<v Speaker 8>be saying that. And then of course and go, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>so sorry, Gavid then say that says, oh, but there

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<v Speaker 8>are one hundred percent definitely all airplanes but if they're not,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm okay, So they're not all air crisis they are.

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<v Speaker 8>If they're not, there's obviously just some company that has

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<v Speaker 8>decided to yeah, a whole.

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<v Speaker 5>Bunch of drawns at not and.

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<v Speaker 9>They come there covering like high Amazon.

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<v Speaker 8>They've got a company that just a million drones in

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<v Speaker 8>New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 5>But it answers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone is very anxious to see a real

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<v Speaker 2>man back in the White House. Because of course, this

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<v Speaker 2>is Trump's reaction to seeing these armies of drones descending

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<v Speaker 2>on really important cities and in some cases military bases.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes the truth social to write mystery drone sightings

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<v Speaker 2>over the country. Can this really be happening without our

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<v Speaker 2>government's knowledge?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the public know and now otherwise shoot them down.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon. This guy's probably got.

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<v Speaker 2>A legion of these bad boy drones, which we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>up on the screen for you right now. Just to

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<v Speaker 2>unleash upon these unregistered, unknown drones and unleash just just

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<v Speaker 2>just shoot them all down.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a Trump looking drone.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, yes, unleash the Trump drones.

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<v Speaker 3>Gammy, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh my gosh, Well, look how look at the difference

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<v Speaker 10>in messaging. You've got Trump saying shoot them down, then

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<v Speaker 10>you've got Mayorkas saying we're on to it, it's all good,

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<v Speaker 10>and gas lighting, blaming the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration,

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<v Speaker 10>and you know, and that's how's that expert from scene

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<v Speaker 10>and calling an aeroplane And there are drones that are

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<v Speaker 10>reportedly the size of SUV's sending the people in New

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<v Speaker 10>Jersey just absolutely crazy not knowing what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 10>the comment this has not been transparented all about this thing.

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<v Speaker 10>You're going down rabbit holes on X with all the

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<v Speaker 10>different wild theories out there. Aliens is getting a good

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<v Speaker 10>run on X as well. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 10>everyone's so excited to see Trump back in the White

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<v Speaker 10>House and actually getting some action because.

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<v Speaker 11>We need to know what they are. If we don't

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<v Speaker 11>know what they are, Trump's got a point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we wouldn't even still be talking about it if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump were in the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>These things would be dead and buried all over the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a theory for you by a guy called

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<v Speaker 2>John Ferguson. He actually creates very sophisticated drones for the

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<v Speaker 2>government's military so he knows a thing or two, and

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<v Speaker 2>he took to Twitter and other social pages to let

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<v Speaker 2>people know, Look, this is just my theory of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here, and also speaking to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't believe they're doing anything nefarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 12>Back in the nineteen eighties, Ronald Reagan had dismantled the

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<v Speaker 12>nuclear program, and there were with Russia, there were countless

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<v Speaker 12>nuclear missiles that were disarmed and disposed of. Well, there

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<v Speaker 12>were over eighty. I believe there were over eighty nuclear

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<v Speaker 12>warheads that were in Ukraine that came up missing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>we don't know where they are. Maybe somebody does, but

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<v Speaker 12>nobody really knows where these are. I spoke to a

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<v Speaker 12>gentleman a few months ago who was trying to raise

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<v Speaker 12>an alarm to the highest levels of our government, which

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<v Speaker 12>they had their ears closed about this one particular nuclear

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<v Speaker 12>warhead that he physically put his hands on. He physically

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<v Speaker 12>touched this warhead that was left over from Ukraine, and

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<v Speaker 12>he knew that that thing was headed towards the United States. Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>that is a very serious deal.

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<v Speaker 2>People in the knowing stuff and sharing it now because

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<v Speaker 2>we have these wonderful platforms in which every day said

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<v Speaker 2>can just say, look, here's what I know, do with

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<v Speaker 2>it what you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>John Ferguson goes on to explain that there is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no use of flying a drone at night because they're

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<v Speaker 2>blind as bats, unless they're outfitted with infrared capabilities, which

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<v Speaker 2>would make it a very serious drone. Indeed, he says

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one reason for drones to be flying at night.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's his explanation as to what he thinks.

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<v Speaker 11>They're up to.

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<v Speaker 12>My own guess is that these drones are not nefarious

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<v Speaker 12>and intent. But if they are are drones, the only

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<v Speaker 12>reason why they would be flying and flying that low

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<v Speaker 12>is because they're trying to smell something on the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it.

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<v Speaker 12>There's no other reason for a drone be flying in

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<v Speaker 12>the air. So my belief, as they're trying to smell

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<v Speaker 12>something on the ground, gas leagues, radioactive material.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to find this war According to John Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see time will tell.

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<v Speaker 3>But what is presidentis Biden.

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<v Speaker 8>Is let's just assume that it's either aliens or drones

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<v Speaker 8>trying to find a lost nuclear warhead from the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Any thing about I know that's believed that's going viral.

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<v Speaker 10>It's getting shared sixteen million times now way Rogan has

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<v Speaker 10>shared it.

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<v Speaker 11>But look, let's getting.

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<v Speaker 10>Some ants, some explanation from an expert about what possibly.

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<v Speaker 11>It could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that would also explain why the government doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell anybody about it. But what's Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>doing While the country's obsessing over drones and what they're

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<v Speaker 2>up to flying over all these mysterious locations, He's busy

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<v Speaker 2>handling out the biggest pardon heyday in US history. He

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<v Speaker 2>has commuted roughly fifteen hundred sentences and pardoned thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>people in the biggest single day act of clemency.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's this help for.

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<v Speaker 2>Graft just to show you how he has blown every

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<v Speaker 2>other former president out of the water with regards to

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<v Speaker 2>how many of these he's handed out.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait, there's more.

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<v Speaker 2>He says he's still going to keep reviewing these askings

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<v Speaker 2>for clemencys.

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<v Speaker 3>So it indicates that he's not done. So let's take

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<v Speaker 3>a quick look at these deserving recipients that he.

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<v Speaker 5>Believe monochron monoc.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, bit pieces, people who are clearly handed

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<v Speaker 2>down really unfair sentences. And so now he's seen fit

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<v Speaker 2>just to give him a slap on the wrist. No,

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<v Speaker 2>this is absolutely blood curdling reading.

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<v Speaker 3>First, we have an ex doctor pardoned.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a doctor who defrauded cancer patients by not

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<v Speaker 2>providing them with their full prescription of chemo while billing

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid for millions of dollars. Yeah, sure, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>someone who deserves clements.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's an inbezzler, an embezzler who was pardoned after

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<v Speaker 2>they ripped off the city of Dixon for over twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two years to the tune of fifty three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>The DOJ described it as quote the largest theft of

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<v Speaker 2>public funds in state history. Really, she deserves clemency. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's not forget the kids for cash judge, Yes, who

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<v Speaker 2>was pocketing millions in kickbacks for reward for how many

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<v Speaker 2>black kids they could send to jail. And that's to

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<v Speaker 2>say nothing of the Chinese national who was caught with

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven thousand images of child pornography. Clearly deserves clemency.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are changed individual now, Gabby. This is

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<v Speaker 2>just four of thirty nine pardoned individuals. Biden has said

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<v Speaker 2>he's not done yet.

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<v Speaker 3>There's more to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone needs to go through this with a fine tooth

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<v Speaker 2>comb and find out who these people are and why

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<v Speaker 2>exactly they deserve to walk free.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I think what we need to remember is Joe

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<v Speaker 10>Biden doesn't know what day it is, just a couple

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<v Speaker 10>of weeks ago, who was sleeping for two minutes in

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<v Speaker 10>the middle of a meeting while he was in Africa.

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<v Speaker 10>So who is in Joe Biden's ear at the moment

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<v Speaker 10>and suggesting that this is a really good idea. And

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<v Speaker 10>it's just extraordinary when you think about what power that

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<v Speaker 10>these presidents have to pardon someone, just give people get

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<v Speaker 10>out of jail free cards essentially. And if you look

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<v Speaker 10>at the sign oh yeah, of course, don't forget Hunter,

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<v Speaker 10>but crazy you look at the numbers at George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 10>you only pardoned two hundred people, Donald Trump just over

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<v Speaker 10>two hundred, and then Joe Biden fifteen hundred people.

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<v Speaker 11>And as you say, you've pointing out.

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<v Speaker 10>Some of those that he is partying look, including Hunter, or.

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<v Speaker 8>Even just the physical act of doing that. I find

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<v Speaker 8>it difficult to get my head around, like even just

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<v Speaker 8>signing fifteen hundred, one thousand, five hundred times, like I've

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<v Speaker 8>done a few book signings. Not many people showed up,

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<v Speaker 8>but after about ten, you know, you start to notice it.

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<v Speaker 8>But fifteen hundred and again, are we assuming that he's

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<v Speaker 8>read all the sort of paperwork you would read, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>oh yeah, and they said sorry, oh and now they've

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<v Speaker 8>converted to Christian. Oh that's nice, and then you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 8>There is no way, surely, and he says he's not

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<v Speaker 8>done yet. There's no way that there could be any

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<v Speaker 8>kind of due diligence at his level for that amount,

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<v Speaker 8>which is not to say that he's you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>he's obviously you know, functioning somewhere between a sort of caple.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's just signing.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody else has put this together. And you wonder who

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<v Speaker 2>else is buried in this long list of people who now.

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<v Speaker 3>Just walk scott free.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of his mates and what were they guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of that they now just get to live large? Levita

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<v Speaker 2>Loca tell you who we haven't seen the last of though,

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<v Speaker 2>is VP Kamala Harris. You would have thought after that

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<v Speaker 2>dreadful loss she blew over a billion dollars, dreadful loss.

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<v Speaker 3>To truck crack.

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<v Speaker 8>For stealing a billion dollars, absolutely nothing to show for it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it's sorking.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently she's got her sight set on becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>California governor.

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<v Speaker 3>His CNN on.

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<v Speaker 8>That that was what the likelihood is of Harri's running

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<v Speaker 8>for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>What she's been saying to people over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, donors other supporters that she's been been talking

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<v Speaker 1>with is you haven't seen the last of me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going quietly into the night. Advisors people close to

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<v Speaker 1>her are debating about what that means. They do not

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<v Speaker 1>want her final official act ever to be essentially certifying

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's win over her, especially four years after January sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they look at this governor's race in California

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six and it seems to them like

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<v Speaker 1>a layup essentially that she would probably clear the field

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<v Speaker 1>or mostly clear the field, and she would get to

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<v Speaker 1>be governor of California.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, whether she gets that goal all depends on whether

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<v Speaker 2>people believe in the DNC that she can then go

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<v Speaker 2>on to be a successful candidate at the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight presidential debates. Are you kidding me? She fell over

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty didn't even get a single vote because

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<v Speaker 2>she pulled out. No one in the Lay party likes her.

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<v Speaker 2>She became VP because Biden needed a woman, preferably an

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<v Speaker 2>ethnic woman. She's been massively unpopular and her record is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing except for that infamous cackle.

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<v Speaker 3>So you'd think, surely this isn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet if you're watching the DNC Holiday get Together,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen to Biden, sounds like there's something in this.

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<v Speaker 5>Look.

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<v Speaker 13>It's also been a credible honor to serve with someone

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<v Speaker 13>of immense character, as she demonstated through her entire career,

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<v Speaker 13>Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew what I was.

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<v Speaker 13>Don't ask her to be my vice president. I knew her.

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<v Speaker 13>I knew ever, I knew about her, I knew her record.

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<v Speaker 5>I trusted her.

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<v Speaker 13>She always served this country of purpose and integrity and

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<v Speaker 13>she always will. And you're not going anywhere, kids, because

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<v Speaker 13>we're not let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>With purpose and integrity. These guys literally do nothing.

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<v Speaker 10>But oh, we know that Joe Biden doesn't like Kamala

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<v Speaker 10>Harris anymore. Jill Biden can't even look at her. But

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<v Speaker 10>I am looking at that CNN clip. It's all about Trump,

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<v Speaker 10>isn't it that Kamala Harris wants to run again, whether

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<v Speaker 10>it's for governor or to be president.

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe one day. It's still about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 10>Really, but if you look at her track record as

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<v Speaker 10>vice president, she was so unpopular. Her one role was

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<v Speaker 10>to look after the border. We all know how badly

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<v Speaker 10>that was handled. And then that campaign, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 10>you know Joe Biden trobably pardon Kamala Harris for spending

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<v Speaker 10>a billion dollars in three months genuinely criminals.

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<v Speaker 11>But look, she's having a.

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<v Speaker 2>Love trying to talk up now, being like, well she

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<v Speaker 2>raised over a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>You know she's a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 8>They're actually so delusional that she when she said that

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<v Speaker 8>in a crazed rambling video, she didn't even realize that

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<v Speaker 8>made it worse.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 8>She says, hey, I had this whole thing delivered to

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<v Speaker 8>be on a platter, and I still screw this. But

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<v Speaker 8>she's bragging about how big the platt was on if

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<v Speaker 8>you listen to And this is what makes me absolutely

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<v Speaker 8>genuinely furious. And we see this creeping into the Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>in particular and progressive politics more generally, where it's all

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<v Speaker 8>about it's just all about them.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just all about the person.

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<v Speaker 8>Kid in mind, this is meant to be the left

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<v Speaker 8>that I remember, that was meant to be about everyone else.

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<v Speaker 8>It was meant to be out all the masses, all

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<v Speaker 8>the poor people out there struggling, can't get a break,

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<v Speaker 8>and you're going to help them out. You listen to

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<v Speaker 8>that clip from CNN, and not once do they mention

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<v Speaker 8>what's good.

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<v Speaker 5>For the people.

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<v Speaker 8>All of that, that's right, But it's not even all

0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 8>about it's all about her. It's it would be bad

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<v Speaker 8>for her if her last act in public was just to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be to hand it on who cares.

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<v Speaker 8>And then oh, yes, we've got the governorship of California

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<v Speaker 8>coming up. That's a pretty good lay up, and she

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<v Speaker 8>would just be handed that on a platter as well.

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<v Speaker 8>And as he says, oh it's a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 8>So CaMLA would still be able to get pretty good

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<v Speaker 8>job and be able to pay all those pretty good

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<v Speaker 8>bills in the middle of a pretty good cost of

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<v Speaker 8>living crisis. Like can you imagine the narcissism? Absolutely Hubris

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 8>that makes her think still to this day, still to

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<v Speaker 8>this day, that this is all about her, This is

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<v Speaker 8>all about how everyone around her, The Democratic National Committee,

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<v Speaker 8>the entire state of California has to make up for

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<v Speaker 8>her hopeless incompetence and complete vacuousness that deprived her of

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<v Speaker 8>every single metric of the last presidential and congressional elections

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<v Speaker 8>and then give her everything back to her on a

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<v Speaker 8>platter again because why because then it wouldn't be that

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<v Speaker 8>nice for her if the last thing she had to

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<v Speaker 8>do was handing the cases on the truck because of

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<v Speaker 8>her own in competent. It is I have never ever,

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<v Speaker 8>ever encountered that level of narcissism outside someone who is

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<v Speaker 8>an actual sociopath. Is It is disgraceful And if the

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<v Speaker 8>Democratic Party give her any kind of platform after her

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<v Speaker 8>performance during the campaign, they should be condemned to oblivion

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<v Speaker 8>for generations that should go back to the days when

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 8>they were the slave owning party of the South, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He here the party of the kilukockx Klan.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, and Republicans are cheering about this. I've heard some

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 10>Republicans say, please do it, please run, it will.

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<v Speaker 3>Beat you again, do you know, Okay, you're getting.

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<v Speaker 10>Down, but it's you know, even if she tries to

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<v Speaker 10>run the governor of California, more than forty percent of

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.480
<v Speaker 10>people in California actually voted for Trump.

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<v Speaker 11>It's going red. So you know, Kamala Haara, how will.

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<v Speaker 5>Vote for her?

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<v Speaker 8>She's unelectable. She's the most odious candidate I have ever

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<v Speaker 8>seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 11>But she's back.

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<v Speaker 10>Here's the latest I thing she's got to say.

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<v Speaker 3>The holiday season is one of my favorite times of year.

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<v Speaker 3>That in my birthday and in our wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 10>Of course, I'm just going to keep digging this whole Deperdever,

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 10>she doesn't get any less cringe. The more we hear

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<v Speaker 10>from her, the more people want to switch off.

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<v Speaker 11>Good luck to her. I don't think she's got a future.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't. I take it back.

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<v Speaker 2>No luck to her Onceoever, she does need it more

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<v Speaker 2>than anyone right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hope that.

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 2>She she belongs in the graveyard of ambition. And I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you with you, Jo, if the Democrats give

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<v Speaker 2>her a single other gong?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, how would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Be as the California governor now, which is Gavinooss who's

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>also just ran the state into an absolute burning dumpster fire.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's been there for quite some time and he

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<v Speaker 2>does have some significant popularity as the incumbent and people

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 2>are just openly talking about you losing Tomala Harril.

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<v Speaker 5>So that she saves the state of California.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, where am I supposed to go? Thanks?

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<v Speaker 8>Generally, I thought that Karmala, which is what would happen

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<v Speaker 8>to my baby, that Karmala after her performance, was being

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<v Speaker 8>non person and she was just going to be disappeared

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<v Speaker 8>and she was never going to be should be never

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<v Speaker 8>going to be spoken of again.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no Karmala. There will be no Karmala. There

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<v Speaker 5>never was a Karmala, not my mama.

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<v Speaker 8>And the idea that I mean, the idea is being

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<v Speaker 8>even spoken of by seat and straightface also shows that

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 8>the progressive media in the US is still so far

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 8>up its own ars. Honestly, it thinks it's a beautiful night.

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 8>In fact it's dark for another reason, like they are

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<v Speaker 8>just absolute morons. And the idea this is being seriously

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<v Speaker 8>considered by I mean, if Kamala herself is delusional to

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<v Speaker 8>be saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to go quietly into that big black night,

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<v Speaker 5>It's not up to you, ding sorry, you go wherever

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.920
<v Speaker 5>the voters take you. And that's sti Oblivia.

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<v Speaker 8>And the idea that this has been taken seriously by

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.479
<v Speaker 8>her or those around it. But let the actual media

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 8>have gone from oh where do we get it?

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 10>Surprised the media were campaigning from her the whole time.

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 10>They were campaigning for Joe Biden until he exposed himself

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<v Speaker 10>really in that debate when he couldn't have to say,

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 10>you know, we finally beat medicare they lied to us.

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<v Speaker 11>They're going to keep lying. They lied to us.

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<v Speaker 10>Abou Kamala Harris, She's an average vice president and all

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<v Speaker 10>of a sudden she was a superstar because she had

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 10>the celebrities endorsement.

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<v Speaker 11>So, you know, with tum coming.

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<v Speaker 8>I actually think they're so stupid, and they are so cloistered,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 8>and they are so ignorant of what normal people are thinking.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 8>I don't actually think then, I don't think they're going, okay,

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 8>let's go on life to the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think they genuinely because it's so.

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<v Speaker 8>Stupid, Like with the Biden stuff, obviously they're pulling them

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 8>all over everyone's eyes, and maybe they're trying to convince themselves,

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.239
<v Speaker 8>but again, like how could you like even you know,

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 8>morning Joe actually said, all right, we've got to go

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 8>to mar Lago talk to Donald Trump. You know, I

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 8>had people on CNN saying, right, we've got things going Clearly,

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 8>things have gone catastrophically wrong. We are not understanding the

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 8>mood of the nation, the pulse of the people. And

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 8>then you have just a few weeks after the election result,

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 8>people saying that Kamala Harris is going to make a comeback,

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 8>not just for governor of California, but is that as

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 8>a vehicle to then go to the White House again,

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 8>like this is a brain injury. Honestly, if you heard

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 8>someone in your family talking like this, you would take

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 8>them to be committed.

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<v Speaker 5>You would get them a cats.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 3>N CNN whose ratings we know have fallen off a clit.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 5>Carmala Harris should because.

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<v Speaker 2>The American public were just like, you lied through your

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>teeth to us for months and months on end. This

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 2>election hasn't gone the way that you were all saying

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>it would.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't believe you anymore.

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And then they had this short period of a bit

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of an autopsy where they did do a little bit

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>of naval gazing and said, oh, maybe we get everything wrong,

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it figures they've just returned to factory settings

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and we're getting more of the same staying in the States. Now,

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Trump just keeps winning these court cases. He's kicking them

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 2>down like rickety old doors.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 3>This one is the case that ABC had with him.

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 2>They've decided to settle outside of court. It's much smarter

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>doing it that way, and a little less money. They've

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 2>been ordered to pay him fifteen million dollars plus his

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 2>legal fees, so I imagine the entirety of the sum

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>is much much bigger.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 3>This was, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, due to George Stephanopolis, an ABC host, claiming the

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 2>President elect was quote found liable for rape end quote,

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>which is patently un true. We know that now, we've

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 2>known that for a very long time. He didn't have

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a leg to stand on in telling his viewers that,

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and so Trump has rightly won without even going to court.

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>So here's MSNBC waxing lyrical about how terrible this is,

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>what a massive payout it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just say, I mean, this feels like it has

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 6>a real chilling effect. Like I mean, shout out to

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 6>the standards Department. Okay, Standards is always making sure that

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 6>we are keeping the bar high and substantive inaccurate. But

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 6>what George Sethanopolis said in that interview. I mean it

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 6>seems to hold up. And with the judge stout after

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 6>the fact, and now he's news organization and himself, George

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 6>Hepanopolis himself is paying a million dollars of his own

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 6>money to the lawyers and ABC and fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's insane, Simone Sanders, want to be careful there, you

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>too could be writing a check for fifteen million dollars

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>after seemingly backing the guy who was just successfully sued.

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, do these people have rocks in their head? Gather?

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 10>Of course, we can't on MSNBC to say something like

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 10>that they were just as bad as seen and throughout

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 10>this campaign.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 11>But well on Trump for fighting this.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 10>Obviously, it's pretty rare that you actually get defamation payouts

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 10>over in the US because their freedom of speech laws

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 10>are a bit more extreme.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 11>Than over here.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 10>But there are plenty of other hosts that he could

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 10>go after if he wanted to. There were MSNBC reporters

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 10>that were directly comparing Donald Trump to Hitler, a mass murderer.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 10>Surely that counts as defamation in some way.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that bit doesn't.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 8>But the and this is a thing, and this is

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 8>where the left sort of shoots themselves in the foot

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 8>that they always overreached. So they can't just accept, you know,

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 8>that Donald Trump is someone who they don't like or

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 8>they don't agree with. He has to be hitler and

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 8>they can't actually accept in this case, and this was

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 8>a really telling one, they can't actually accept the fact

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 8>that eg Simmons or whatever it happens, did actually win

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 8>that case and she did get an even higher defamation

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 8>payout than she did for the actual sexual assault that

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 8>the civil court upheld. But it was a sexual assault,

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 8>it wasn't a rape. And so by having in their

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 8>beady little minds, oh, Donald Trump is evil. It must

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 8>be a rapist, he must be a rapist, and just

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 8>not being able to get their heads around the facts,

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 8>they have then made a fifteen million dollar mistake because

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 8>plus legal fees, I think I saw a twenty three

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 8>million dollar figure, but that might be what that translates

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 8>to in Australian dollars. But again it just goes to

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 8>show how much of a kind of bubble.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 5>These people living.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 8>Know they think these things about Donald Trump, they talk

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 8>to people who think the exact same things, and they

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 8>just get in their head that Donald Trump's a rapist

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 8>and that the courts have found this and they think

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 8>it's true. And suddenly they've just implanted this idea that

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 8>that is a fact, and it simply.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 5>Is not a fact.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 8>In the state where it happened, there's a very clear

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 8>definition of right and what happened with Donald Trump did

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 8>not fit that criteria, simple as that.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>And you think these guys being journals journos rather they

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>know the legalities, they know how important which words you

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>use when you're talking about matters like this really really matter.

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And yet here's Morning Joe seemingly again just doing the

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>same thing, talking about Stephanopoulos's interview with Nancy Mace, which

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>is how this whole case came to be.

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 14>She's so concerned about rape victims being shamed. What about

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 14>what Donald Trump does. Here's rape victim. Judge said, she's

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 14>a rape victim day in and day out, constantly shaming

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 14>EG and Carol so much so that the jury had

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 14>to come back a second time and make penalty is

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 14>so bad that maybe he would stop shaming a rape victim.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 14>But that's so Nancy Mayce aggressively endorses.

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>So now you're shaming a rape victim for crying out loud.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 3>They never learn.

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is the thing. And I don't know. I

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 5>don't know.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 8>I haven't read the entire judgment against Agen for Egen

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 8>Carroll against Donald Trump, and that was length what I

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 8>was saying before about how the jury came back and

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 8>gave him even more in.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 5>The defamation as he was talking about it.

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 8>But again the definition of right, I don't know if

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 8>the judge referred to her as a rape victim in

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 8>some other context or talked about rape wings generally.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>So sorry, I was talking about Nancy Mace, who is

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>genuinely she's sitting Republican in the in the House of Reps.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, that's right.

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 8>But again I don't know how if Joe Scarborough was

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 8>talking about that same case and banging on about the

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 8>banging on about the action against George Stephanopolis, I do

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 8>not see.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Again, it just seems.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 8>To be people talking in a bubble. I do not

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 8>realize they convince themselves that it's feelings of facts.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 10>It's bizarre that George Deephanopolis even went down this line

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 10>of questioning. And if you look back at you know

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 10>his history before he was a journalist, he was a

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 10>communications director of the nineteen ninety two president's presidential campaign

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 10>of Bill Clinton, who's of course had several accusations against him,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 10>which he denies. But it's bizarre that George Stephanopolis really

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 10>continued to grill Nancy Mace about this, and I think

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 10>she did a great job really calling him out at

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 10>the time, saying.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 11>You are shaming me.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, that's right.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 8>And fun fact, George Stephanopolis was the man they thought

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 8>wrote the book Primary Colors about all of what is it?

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 8>Jack Stanton was the name of the candidate, and really

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 8>it has nothing to do with Bill Clinton.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 5>Whatsoever? Was Jack Stanton? Not Bill?

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>George would have come out and taken the credit.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 9>That's right.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 8>It turned out to be a guy called Joe Klein,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 8>but everyone thought it was George Stephanopolis who wrote.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>It was Joe Cline, who then took the credit once

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>George was getting it was like actually.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 8>With Joe Klein, who then wrote a follow up to

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 8>Primary Colors under his own name, called The Running Mate,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 8>and it was a terrible flock.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, the absolute pandemonium over January sixth continues to unravel

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the insurrection that.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Got Trump into so much trouble. The facts and figures

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 3>are still.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Coming out, ladies and gentlemen, And can I say it's

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>another great day, as every day is to be a

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorist, because we just found out from the Justice

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Department's watchdog in a bombshell report that there were twenty

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>six FBI informants on the ground in the capital on

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that day, and to quote the report, most of them

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>engaged in illegal activity. So what the heck was going on?

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 3>FBI?

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Here's Thomas Massey, who's a Republican rep in the House.

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely love this guy. He is beyond based.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't let all these allegations regarding January sixth go

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>over the last few years, and he took every opportunity

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>he got to grill the Attorney General as to what

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>actually happened on that day, and he specifically asked Attorney

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>General Garland repeatedly were their FBI agents involved.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 15>I was hoping today to give you an opportunity to

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 15>put to rest the concerns that people have that there

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 15>were federal agents or assets of the federal government present

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 15>on January fifth and January sixth. Can you tell us,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 15>without talking about particular incidents or particular videos, how many

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 15>agents or assets of the federal government were present on

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 15>January sixth, whether they agitated to go into the capitol,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 15>and if any of them did so.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to violate this norm of.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>The rule of law.

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 12>I'm not going to comment on investigation that's ongoing now.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 9>In that video, that was your answer to question to

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 9>me two years ago when I said, how many agents

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 9>or assets of the government were present on January fifth

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 9>and January sixth and agitating in the crowd to go

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 9>into the capitol, and how many went into the capitol?

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 9>Can you answer that now?

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't know the answer to that question.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 9>Oh, last time, you don't know how many there were

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 9>or there were none.

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 8>I don't know the answer to either of those questions.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:22.959
<v Speaker 5>If there were any.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many. You've know, whether there are any.

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 9>I think you may have just perjured yourself that you

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 9>don't know that there were any. You want to say

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 9>that again, that you don't know that there were.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 5>No personal knowledge of this matter. I think what I

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 5>said the last time.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 9>You've had two years to find out.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 11>I don't know. I don't know.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it every politician's famous line when they're brought before

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>a judgment day panel asking for answers as to what

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>they clearly do know by virtue of being the Attorney

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>General of the United States of America. But no, it

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>was just more obfiscation. Nobody knows anything.

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>We were entirely unaware.

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I loved jd Vance's tweet Vice President Elect today He shared.

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 3>A copy of this report by the Justice.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Department with the tweet that said, for those keeping score

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>at home, this was labeled a dangerous conspiracy theory months ago.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>So how do you like those apples? Here we are again, Gabby.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a great day to be a conspiracy theorist because

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 2>these guys simply pieced together the facts long before those

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>in charge are willing to admit them. And by the

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>time it finally comes out, they hope that they've given

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 2>themselves enough buffer in terms of time that it will

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>matter so much so people move on.

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 10>But it's been nearly four years, that's.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 11>How long it's been.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 10>Then finally the truth comes out, and as data Evans

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 10>pointed out, just a few months ago, you were labeled

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 10>a conspiracy theory. Serious, I should say, but that's absolutely wild.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 10>Twenty six confidential informants found on the ground and then

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 10>most of whom engage in a legal activity during the chaos.

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 10>But you know, it doesn't really surprise me that this

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 10>was just kind of dismissed as a conspiracy theory and

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 10>it has taken this long for further truth to come out,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 10>because it reminds me of the Hunter Biden laptop story

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 10>that was censored, and then eventually it came out that

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 10>the FBI did have his lab and the Russian collusion.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 10>Oh my gosh, we've heard this story before, and it's

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 10>going to keep happening. We don't have long, guys, January twenty,

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 10>it's going to be a different world.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 11>There's only a few weeks to go. A bit more transparency.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 8>You listen carefully to it day that they're talking at

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 8>cross purposes, so the person keeps sort of asking about

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 8>FBI agents or assets. Now, an informant is not an agent.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 8>An informant is simply someone the FBI gets.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Information to work for this. We're involved, they might might not.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 8>They're just an informant. It's like saying a police informant

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 8>is often a crook. They don't work, they're not a

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.479
<v Speaker 8>police officer, they don't work for the police.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Three as informants.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, take your point, but it creates is how you

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>have twenty six informants on the ground and you weren't

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>across this, You didn't.

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 8>Know, So there were only three that the FBI actually

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 8>has to be there.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 5>The other twenty three just.

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Went of them one of their radicles.

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 8>Which makes me think that these guys are people that

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 8>the FBI knows they're.

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 5>Operating within these movements already.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 8>They sell information or they give information to the FBI

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 8>for what in exchange for whatever, I don't know, but

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 8>they were there doing that of their own accord. And

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 8>they also people who who dub on their mates to

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 8>the FBI as well, and so it's.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Not necessarily doubtless. They were not talking about.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 8>FBI employees or agents who were being sent to this

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 8>thing to stir up trouble. We're talking about people who

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 8>the FBI relies on for information, who in most cases

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 8>went there of their own accord. But they are someone

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 8>the fbis and.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>They didn't admit it till now.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>They could have just said instead of instead of waiting

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>till now, we've got to go to a break, but when.

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>We come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Pallace, Victoria Treasurer he's gone.

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, a cricket commentator is under fire for being racist.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 3>The weird thing is she.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>As well as the person that she's supposedly slurred, is

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 2>also Indian.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Joe, walk me through this. I feel like this is.

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<v Speaker 8>The left and say, as one white person to another,

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 8>that was incredibly racist of you, this is.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 3>The same race. Can I saw this.

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 8>Unfolding in real time last night as it was happening,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 8>and it was just so weird because I kind of

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 8>thought the days of sort of Twitter outrage and Twitter

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 8>shaming and getting canceled over, and as people were saying

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 8>as this was kind of happening, there was this massive

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 8>I'm never on Twitter anymore, but for some reason I

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 8>ended up back there sort of seeing how this was

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 8>all going, and the vitriol was extraordinary, But vitriol was

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 8>not towards who you would expect.

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 5>So rewind.

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<v Speaker 8>This is Fox cricket commentator is Guha I hope I

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 8>pronounced her name correctly, And she was commentating on a

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 8>game between Australia and India, obviously, and she said of

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 8>one of the Indian star players the following, I'll play

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 8>the grab.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 16>Well, he's the MVP isn't he most valuable primate? Speak,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 16>he is the one that's going to do all the

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 16>talking for India and why so much focus was on

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 16>him in the build up to this TESS match.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 8>So there she is calling this player and again, I'm

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 8>no massive cricket tragic, so I don't know how all

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 8>these people are, but this guy's amazing. And she says

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 8>he's the MVP, which is usually of course most valuable player.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 8>She's the MVP, most valuable Primate, and then she goes

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 8>on to say what an incredible player he is, that

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 8>he has got you know, this match in his hands,

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 8>and blah blah blah. That seems an odd thing to

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 8>go on and say about someone that you've just slagged off,

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 8>you've just learnd she's going on in to say that

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 8>this guy is amazing. And so while this is happening, meanwhile,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 8>my very good friends are I think on seven, which

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 8>is of course a rival network, so the bit of

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.720
<v Speaker 8>a network rivalry there. They put out a story about

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 8>this and say that this is a slur. The primate

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 8>is a slur, and they also linked or liken it

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 8>to the slur from again an Indian player. This is

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 8>in two thousand and six or nine or something early

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 8>two thousands an Indian player against the Australian Andrew Simon's

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 8>where he was called a monkey by an Indian player.

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 8>So you had an Indian player being racist towards an

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 8>Australian player, and now suddenly is this a form of payback?

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 8>Except that Isa Guha is herself Indian. She's an Indian heritage,

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 8>so her parents are from Calcutta, I believe. So while

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.879
<v Speaker 8>this thing was unfolding online, I was looking at all

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 8>these comments, and the comments I reckon at the very

0:40:56.239 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 8>least would have been ten to one against the poor

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 8>guy from Channel seven who wrote story and posts story

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 8>and for rape and on her side. And they were saying,

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 8>don't you get at your idiots.

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 5>We're all primates. That's the point. We're all prime's all

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 5>human beings.

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 11>Well that was my first remembers.

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 8>Are primates, And this I think is actually the point

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 8>of what Isa Guha was saying. But have her listened

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 8>to her apology and she kind of she doesn't seem

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 8>to want to dig any deeper, but this is what

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 8>she says.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 16>I'm an advocate for equality and someone who has spent

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 16>their career thinking about inclusion and understanding in the game.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 16>I'm trying to frame the enormity of his achievements, and

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 16>I've chosen the wrong word, and for that I am

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 16>deeply sorry. As someone who is also of South Asian heritage,

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:54.879
<v Speaker 16>I hope people would recognize that there was no other

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 16>intentional malice there.

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 8>So you saying I called someone of my own race

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 8>a race as slur, that would mean that she was.

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.919
<v Speaker 3>She apologizing for you never apologize.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 8>So she said, may well be that, you know upstairs.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 5>I just said, look, we just got to make sure sorry.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 5>And I've been there.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 8>I've been there, I've done the same thing, and you

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 8>just say, all right if people are.

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 5>Upset or you know.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 8>But she said prior to that, grab said yesterday in commentary,

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 8>I used a word that can be interpreted in a

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 8>number of different ways. So I think what she was

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 8>actually saying, she hinted it later on, But again I

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 8>think they've probably said, don't just don't keep explained to

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 8>say sorry, we just move on. But she's actually saying

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 8>that this guy is the most amazing player, not of

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 8>his team, not of the current are but of the

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 8>entire species, the most the most incredible primate out of

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 8>all of them, not just the best, but the best

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 8>ever been. And there is actually a believer or in

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 8>Sydney there is actually a group. There used to be

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 8>a lunch club of real sort of senior high up

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 8>media figures and legal figures and sort of you know,

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 8>the sort of top brass of Sydney, the sort of

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 8>people who would.

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 5>Go to the Ustai Club or whatever.

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 8>And guess what this group of elites called themselves, the primates.

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 8>They and so again, So these are the sort of you.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 8>This is what Richard Dawkin's It's.

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Really all about perception, isn't it, Gabby. And if someone

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 2>wants to be offended, they're going to find a like

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Channel seven did all. This is a story, Let's splash

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it everywhere. It's so heartening to know that the vast

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>majority of the people were saying this is b completely agree.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 10>I was really pleased to know that everyone that you

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 10>were seeing supporting her. We all heard the grab and

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 10>it's so awkward in her apology that she has to

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 10>clarify I'm of Indian heritage. The player I was talking

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 10>about was an Indian heritage. Anyone who's been watching or

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 10>following this from this art can see that, so I

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 10>don't even know where it came from. So what some

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 10>people on online.

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 11>Channel seven round with it.

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 10>It's rather that you had to clarify it, though, and

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 10>I feel for her apologizing.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 11>It's a hard thing to do.

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 10>But I'm glad to know that everyone is behinding her

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 10>because we all heard her from the very beginning. She

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 10>was talking her him up, saying that he's the MVP.

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Good honor to queen not Queensland for once.

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 2>You're not in the firing heart in Queensland, queens for

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>you guys to Victoria now, where things don't seem to

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 2>be looking up at all, although maybe they will with

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>the resignation of Treasurer Tim Palace. He's left the job

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>today after handing down a terrible budget on Friday.

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Love the timing, Love the timing. Tim.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 2>He said that his regrets are quote too few to

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>mention end quote, and that he's leaving the Victorian economy

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 2>in I want to get these words right.

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 3>A solid and improving condition here he was today.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 17>I think we can look back on on the body

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 17>of work and say, well, the economy is solid, the

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 17>fiscal position is improving.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:10.399
<v Speaker 3>And sound.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Really I mean, the state's debt is said to hit

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighty seven billion dollars in one of

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight. He tried his best. That was also

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 2>a direct quote. He said it right as best. I mean,

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 2>this is just I watering Joe that. Once again, here's

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a politician who is very much a main player when

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the state of the Victorian economy, and

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>here he is leaving the job after being treasurer for eons,

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 2>saying dead my best, it's solid. Things are going okay,

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you know what, I've done.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 11>A good job.

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, what is actually more egregious in my I mean,

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 8>Victoria's a complete not a basket case.

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:00.439
<v Speaker 5>Obviously it is.

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 3>But at least don't pretend it's not.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 5>The I suppose it was the foundation.

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 8>The settings are there, the settings are strong, the bones

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 8>are there.

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 5>We just got to put them.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 8>The inside story here is that Tim Pallace was, in

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 8>the darkest days of the Andrews government, the leading figure

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 8>of the Victorian right, which itself is a basket case

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 8>now because it got taken over by the federal branch

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 8>because of all the branch stacking and everything, which of

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 8>course everyone does. But on the right seem to pay

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 8>the price. But so he was a leading figure of

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 8>the right. And then when Dan Andrews left and basically

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 8>just handed the job to Justin to Allen and there's

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 8>a whole bunch of horse trading that went on, and

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 8>basically Tim Pallas and a handful of other MPs went

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 8>from the right to the left of the party. Now

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 8>that is you might call that ratting on the ticket.

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 8>That is a capital offense, that is absolutely unforgivable. To

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 8>go from the right to the left is the greatest

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 8>sin you can commit in the Labor Party. To go

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 8>from the left to the right is what all smart

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 8>people do, and I encourage every to.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 5>Go the other way. Terrible, terrible.

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 8>So and he obviously did that it would seem to

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 8>keep the job of treasurer after the premier it took over.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 8>So he sort of sold his soul to the godless

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<v Speaker 8>socialist left faction of Victoria. But the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 8>that all this happened as the right said no, we're

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<v Speaker 8>not going to just let your hand over. We are

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<v Speaker 8>going to put forward our candidate, their Transport minister I

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<v Speaker 8>think it was at the time, but they basically said

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<v Speaker 8>we're not going down without.

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<v Speaker 5>A fight anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>We're not playing along now that Andrews has gone and

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<v Speaker 8>his reign of terror is over. And Palace's branch, of course,

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<v Speaker 8>Palace's seat, which I think is Werribee, western suburbs, good

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<v Speaker 8>working class seat, working class people who of course turned

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<v Speaker 8>against the government after what they put them through during COVID.

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<v Speaker 8>But his palace still held on. But that seat and

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<v Speaker 8>the others like it will all still be right wing.

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<v Speaker 8>The branches will still be right dominated, and so technically

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<v Speaker 8>the guvernment goodbye less senior left MP. And when they

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<v Speaker 8>replace him, assuming that Laby can still hold a seat

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<v Speaker 8>like Weerribee, it will almost certainly be an MP from

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<v Speaker 8>the right, and so there will be This is the

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<v Speaker 8>sort of first, hopefully the first step, and this slow

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<v Speaker 8>process of attrition where the Right gets control back of

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<v Speaker 8>Victoria because, believe it or not, when Dan Andrews became

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<v Speaker 8>premier and for the first few years of his premiership,

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<v Speaker 8>the Right had the numbers in Victoria and.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be the start of a build back better.

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<v Speaker 8>And then because he is as cunning as a fox,

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<v Speaker 8>he was able to just clawback power, clawback power via

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<v Speaker 8>various things, and eventually This could be the.

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<v Speaker 2>Very beginning of a build back better by the right

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, guys, you can do it. We've got to

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<v Speaker 3>go to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we come back, first lady gets slapped down

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<v Speaker 2>by a kid saying, lady, it's Merry Christmas, not happy Holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>First Lady, Jill Biden was attending a Marine Corps special

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas get together for all the Marines and their family.

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<v Speaker 2>And someone's raising these kids right, because they weren't taking

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<v Speaker 2>any of these happy holiday nonsense from the first lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, how are you Hi? Happy holidays?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Happy Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love that authoritative I love it too, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the kid.

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<v Speaker 11>He's so strong, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 10>But haven't you noticed the way that Joe Biden speaks

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<v Speaker 10>to the kids? Oh yes, Hi, Hi, it's the same

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<v Speaker 10>way she speaks to Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 11>You did it, Joe, You hands it all the questions.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it is great to see the kids putting Jill

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<v Speaker 10>Biden back in her place, I guess, which is quite funny.

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<v Speaker 10>And We're not going to see the same kind of

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<v Speaker 10>interaction when Trump's back in, are we.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be right on the ball with that. He is

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<v Speaker 3>big on Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from us, but stage he earned The Sky's

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