Speaker 1: Live on Skynes, Australia. This is d Nika di Georgio.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight, the
Speaker 2: Coalition does the net zero hokey pokey half in, half
Speaker 2: out after a meeting in Canberra today to discuss omissions reductions?
Speaker 2: Has anything actually been achieved? A day ago, all Victorians
Speaker 2: were equal. What a difference a day makes. As the
Speaker 2: state passed its treaty bill dividing people by the color
Speaker 2: of their skin, and King Charles strips Prince Andrew of
Speaker 2: his remaining royal title, evicting his brother from the Royal Lodge,
Speaker 2: will go live to the UK for the latest shortly
Speaker 2: for first tonight. Victoria is officially cooked. After more than
Speaker 2: fifty four percent of Victorians said no to the divisive
Speaker 2: voice to Parliament. Premier sin To Allen gave her citizens
Speaker 2: a two finger salute and enhrined the state into race
Speaker 2: based politics via a treaty which passed Parliament last.
Speaker 3: Night Eyes twenty one No.
Speaker 4: Sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Council has agreed to the bill without amendment. Great.
Speaker 2: Just what a state with record crime and record debt
Speaker 2: needs a divisive treaty at a cost of tens of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars a year to the taxpayer. I mean,
Speaker 2: Victoria is already a burning inferno, so why not just
Speaker 2: add more fuel to the flames. Twenty four hours ago,
Speaker 2: all Victorians had the same rights. Twenty four hours later,
Speaker 2: that's all changed. What began as a plan to improve
Speaker 2: the lives of Indigenous Australians is now a power grab
Speaker 2: that will turn the state into two classes. And after
Speaker 2: the legislation passed, the Premier said, this is how we
Speaker 2: build a fairer, stronger Victoria for everyone. Yeah, a fair
Speaker 2: and stronger Victoria for the sixty five thousand people who
Speaker 2: identify as Aboriginal, not the overarching seven million residents of
Speaker 2: the state. There was no public debate, nobody voted for this,
Speaker 2: so why is it there? Well, according to the treaty,
Speaker 2: it's because traditional owners enjoy a sacred relationship born at
Speaker 2: the first sunrise and sustained for over sixty thousand years
Speaker 2: that can never be extinguished. It's the seven million Victorians
Speaker 2: who get to self extinguish as they are shackled down
Speaker 2: to funding. How much, well, we don't know yet, but
Speaker 2: as the Premier has previously said, everything is on the table.
Speaker 5: A whole range of other matters will be put on
Speaker 5: the table for negotiations.
Speaker 6: So I'm not in a position today to rule anything
Speaker 6: in or out about what might be considered through those
Speaker 6: treaty negotiations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know what that means, money, reparations, compensation, anything
Speaker 2: goes in Victoria. And we already got a glimpse of
Speaker 2: that this week when Saint Vincent's Hospital announced that Indigenous
Speaker 2: patients are receiving fast tracked health care at its emergency
Speaker 2: department ahead of semi urgent and non urgent patients. So
Speaker 2: treating patients by race. This division is being forced upon us.
Speaker 2: And as I said, nobody ever voted for this, and
Speaker 2: now it's about to get a whole lot worse under
Speaker 2: treaty and watch the state change pretty swiftly. Under this,
Speaker 2: a new Indigenous representative body called gellung Wall will elect
Speaker 2: its thirty three council members. Oh and if you're part
Speaker 2: of the ordinary seven million Victorians, you get to pay
Speaker 2: for it to the tune of seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: So what will happen in the short term? While in schools,
Speaker 2: children between prep and year ten will be indoctrinated into
Speaker 2: truth telling curriculum never mind, English, maths or science. The
Speaker 2: Indigenous Body will oversee training programs and guidelines for public
Speaker 2: servants to ensure they are culturally capable, move over goals
Speaker 2: and KPIs and welcome the brave, rare and full new
Speaker 2: world of cultural capability, where the body will then monitor
Speaker 2: public servants. I mean, will bureaucrats be doomed to a
Speaker 2: daily welcome to country under these new workplace cultural capability rules.
Speaker 2: The new body will mandate that government departments consult on
Speaker 2: programs affecting Indigenous people, require new legislation be assessed for
Speaker 2: treaty compatibility, and establish a new naming authority for geographical features.
Speaker 2: So it's like when you travel with Quantus. You know,
Speaker 2: you look at the board and it says you're flying
Speaker 2: to Balloo, when all you want to know is that
Speaker 2: you're flying to Perth and that you're actually at the
Speaker 2: right gate. So if you don't speak or read an
Speaker 2: Indigenous language, too bad, confusion continues. Oh, and there's more.
Speaker 2: The group will be given a dedicated named rome in
Speaker 2: Victorian Parliament, So a parliament within a parliament. That's what
Speaker 2: it sounds like to me. While the treaty legislation states
Speaker 2: the body does not limit the power of State Parliament.
Speaker 2: It provides Gelong Wall with broad and undefined powers, with
Speaker 2: the intention that they evolve over time. You can see
Speaker 2: where this is going. Can't you one set of rules
Speaker 2: for one group and one set of rules for another.
Speaker 2: I think it's appalling legislation.
Speaker 7: Victoria En Masse voted against the Voice against treating Australians
Speaker 7: differently based on their skin color. This treaty in Victoria
Speaker 7: is giving certain rights and privileges to one group of
Speaker 7: Australians over another.
Speaker 2: And this is just the start. It's the Victorian taxpayer.
Speaker 2: He's going to cop the repercussions of treaty every day,
Speaker 2: hardworking citizens who've done nothing wrong but have been made
Speaker 2: out to be the enemy and as the people responsible
Speaker 2: for any injustice so that Jacina Allen can feel good
Speaker 2: about herself. This is race based politics and it's been
Speaker 2: forced upon you by left wing governments who are tying
Speaker 2: themselves in knots of guilt. And it's not just Victoria.
Speaker 2: South Australia has a First Nation's Voice to Parliament despite
Speaker 2: only ten percent of Indigenous voters turning out for its
Speaker 2: State Voice election ten percent and South Australia claimed it
Speaker 2: was a great result and went ahead anyway. So what's next.
Speaker 2: I mean, it started with preferential hospital treatment. It's about
Speaker 2: to infect schools and workplaces and state parliament and inevitably
Speaker 2: laws and regulations and for you, you'll have to cough
Speaker 2: up the money. Now, what's clear is left leaning, woke
Speaker 2: governments won't stray away from this separatist agenda despite the
Speaker 2: will of Australians. It's the type of division that sixty
Speaker 2: percent of us said no to. I mean, we aren't
Speaker 2: some sort of apartheid country, but Victoria is there. Could
Speaker 2: the message of the voice vote have been any more clearer?
Speaker 2: Apparently not. The political elites have decided for you, unless,
Speaker 2: of course, you're one of the sixty five thousand who
Speaker 2: identify as Aboriginal in Victoria. Well, what is a woman?
Speaker 2: Apparently it's a very difficult question for Australia to answer.
Speaker 2: And I really do mean Australia, because the UK knows,
Speaker 2: the US knows. Over the ditch in New Zealand, they're
Speaker 2: even doing better than us. I mean, just ask Anna Cody,
Speaker 2: Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who can't even define the first
Speaker 2: word in her.
Speaker 8: Title lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are a range
Speaker 8: of people who identify as women who are women.
Speaker 2: Did you mean that biological males can be women men?
Speaker 8: So I think that we have different language that perhaps
Speaker 8: you're using than I would use. So I don't understand
Speaker 8: the term biological men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, riddle me this. We as taxpayers are funding a
Speaker 2: sex discrimination commissioner to the tune of four hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year who doesn't know the difference between a
Speaker 2: man and a woman. Yes, this is the Australia we
Speaker 2: are living in and it's all considered normal because we
Speaker 2: do not have laws that protect women. Thanks to Julia
Speaker 2: Gillard who are mended the Sex Discrimination Act in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: removing the definitions of sex man and woman. So basic
Speaker 2: biology is rendered useless in this country. And that is
Speaker 2: why it was so good to finally hear a politician
Speaker 2: willing to pull back the curtains on the horrors of
Speaker 2: gender ideology. Here was liberal Senator Sarah Henderson in the
Speaker 2: Senate this week.
Speaker 9: Frankly, too many people in positions of authority have jumped
Speaker 9: aboard the politicized and ideological trans train under the false
Speaker 9: pretensions pretenses of compassion, tolerance, diversity and inclusion. The Victorian
Speaker 9: Premier to Sinta Allen is one such leader. Our Sex
Speaker 9: Discrimination Commissioner, which is meant to uphold seeks space rights,
Speaker 9: refuses to acknowledge biological sex. It's positively orwellian, but we
Speaker 9: should not be surprised. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner is part
Speaker 9: of the Australian Humor Rights Commission, which has now become
Speaker 9: an activist organization.
Speaker 2: And look, she's not wrong. How can the Sex Discrimination
Speaker 2: Commissioner claim to be an advocate for women when she
Speaker 2: doesn't even know what a woman is? And I commend
Speaker 2: Senator Henderson for speaking up. We need more politicians like
Speaker 2: this willing to come out against entrenched gender ideology. When
Speaker 2: the Senate last tried to debate restoring biological definitions in
Speaker 2: the Act in August, the Minister for Women, Katie Gallaher
Speaker 2: shut it down.
Speaker 10: We do not agree with the Senate being a place
Speaker 10: where individual harm can be done to young people across
Speaker 10: this country, and that is what would have happened had
Speaker 10: we allowed this field to proceed in the normal course,
Speaker 10: and we won't stand for it. Trans children deserve better
Speaker 10: from this chamber.
Speaker 2: The Minister for Women labeled a bill to restore women's
Speaker 2: sex based rights as harmful. Again, this is the Australia
Speaker 2: we are living in now. Senator Henderson was joined in
Speaker 2: Canberra this week by Giggle for Girls founder Sal Grover,
Speaker 2: who will join me later in the show, and even
Speaker 2: Green's co founder Drew Hutton. Did we ever think we
Speaker 2: would see a day where a Greens member or now
Speaker 2: former Green's member is pushing for the protection of women's
Speaker 2: rights and safety. And I say former because Drew Hutton
Speaker 2: has been expelled from the party for wanting to protect
Speaker 2: the rights of women. Who would have thought the left
Speaker 2: are not so tolerant after all, But look at points
Speaker 2: to something bigger. This is not a left versus right issue.
Speaker 2: Women's rights the definition of a woman. It's mainstream. It's
Speaker 2: always been non partisan. It impacts both sides of politics,
Speaker 2: and there are many on the left equally as worried
Speaker 2: about women's rights being erased. But thanks to warped gender
Speaker 2: ideology which has been politicized, as Sarah Henderson pointed out,
Speaker 2: if you talk about it, you're labeled as some sort
Speaker 2: of bigot or far right wing nut job. Now, this
Speaker 2: should not be a controversial issue. It's only been controversial
Speaker 2: for five minutes because politicians like Jacinta Allen have made
Speaker 2: it controversial. The Victorian Premier doesn't seem to think there's
Speaker 2: an issue with a male prisoner who raped his own
Speaker 2: child being housed in a women's prison because they now
Speaker 2: identify as a woman. Politicians like the Minister for Women
Speaker 2: Katie Gallaher have made it controversial. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner
Speaker 2: and A Cody has made it controversial. Now, perhaps these
Speaker 2: women should take a simple biology lesson from the movie
Speaker 2: Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 3: Police have a penish girls.
Speaker 9: Half of that, Jaina, thanks for the tip.
Speaker 2: Yep, it really is that simple. Well. Liberal members have
Speaker 2: been thrashing out climate policy in Canberra today as the
Speaker 2: coalition works towards a position the party has to have
Speaker 2: a fight on this on net zero because the question
Speaker 2: is when a power price is going to come down
Speaker 2: and the reality is nobody knows and we're stuck on
Speaker 2: this renewables only magic carpet ride to reach a target
Speaker 2: we've been told time and time again that we won't reach.
Speaker 2: Here was Shadow Energy Minister Dan Tee, and today after
Speaker 2: several members of the coalition.
Speaker 11: Met incredibly helpful for me as I continue this process
Speaker 11: of making sure that we've got energy in omissions reduction
Speaker 11: policy that is in the national interest. And the key
Speaker 11: takeout for me is that how many things that we're
Speaker 11: united on.
Speaker 2: And Opposition leader Susan Lee was not at today's gathering
Speaker 2: and by all accounts it seems the party won't get
Speaker 2: to a net zero position before Christmas. This is what
Speaker 2: she said.
Speaker 12: And when we see this government's train wreck energy seat
Speaker 12: writ large at Tommaga Aluminium, we know that it is
Speaker 12: important that we get this right and this government has
Speaker 12: not got it right.
Speaker 2: Jody me Now for more on this is the Shadow
Speaker 2: Attorney General Andrew Wallace. Andrew, good to see you as always,
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. I know you weren't at today's
Speaker 2: meeting in Canberra, but it seems the coalition still doing
Speaker 2: this net zero hokey pokey. It's got one arm in,
Speaker 2: one arm out. Realistically, what has this meeting achieved in
Speaker 2: your view?
Speaker 3: Well, Janika, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 13: This was a pretty standard committee meeting for to be
Speaker 13: looking at our energy issues. Dantean is working assiduously. He's
Speaker 13: a very very good man. He's a smart man. I've
Speaker 13: got a lot of faith in dan landing this policy
Speaker 13: in the right place. It was my understanding from talking
Speaker 13: with colleagues this afternoon. It was a very very respectful
Speaker 13: meeting and there was a significant meeting of the minds
Speaker 13: amongst my colleague. I wasn't there, but that was the
Speaker 13: feedback I got, So that is good.
Speaker 3: We will keep working on this.
Speaker 13: I've said to your time and time again, Danica, we
Speaker 13: need the opportunity to get this policy right because when
Speaker 13: you look at what was announced during the week with
Speaker 13: tom Ago, as Susan said, we've now got a situation
Speaker 13: where one of in fact the largest aluminium smelter in
Speaker 13: this country is now talking to its employees and saying
Speaker 13: we have to relook at our business model here because
Speaker 13: they can't keep going as they're going.
Speaker 3: Because of their energy prices.
Speaker 13: And when the largest energy producer in this country can't
Speaker 13: make a fist of it with energy prices.
Speaker 3: That they're paying, how does mum and dad, How does.
Speaker 13: Mum and dad balance their bank budget or the budget
Speaker 13: at home with their energy prices.
Speaker 3: The answer is, of course they can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't disagree with you, I completely agree,
Speaker 2: but the reality is I mean the coalition is really
Speaker 2: tying itself in not so over this. Voters deserve a
Speaker 2: clear contest because power bills are going in the other direction,
Speaker 2: as you know, as the coalition knows Andrew, and that
Speaker 2: is the key issue here. I mean, don't voters get
Speaker 2: to have that choice?
Speaker 13: And they absolutely will get that choice. We are not
Speaker 13: even six months into this term. There's another more than
Speaker 13: two and a half years to go before the next election,
Speaker 13: and I can tell you this much, Danika, we will
Speaker 13: land a policy well and truly before that time.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that families are doing a tough.
Speaker 13: Businesses are doing it tough, from your local fish and
Speaker 13: chip shop owner right through to Tomago Eudy minium smelter.
Speaker 13: Australians across this country just having so much trouble balancing
Speaker 13: the books because of this country is because of this
Speaker 13: government's insane energy policy of putting everything on black, putting
Speaker 13: everything on our renewable energy.
Speaker 3: Now, renewable energy.
Speaker 13: Has got a part to play, but at the end
Speaker 13: of the day, it simply cannot provide industry and commerce
Speaker 13: the sort of full time energy that it needs at
Speaker 13: affordable prices. And that's the difference We used to be
Speaker 13: one of the most affordable energy producers in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and now it's sending us broken backwards in
Speaker 2: the process. Look, let's move on. Hamas wants the Australian
Speaker 2: government to remove its listing as a terror organization. Is
Speaker 2: actually filed documents in the Federal Court arguing the terror
Speaker 2: listing has breached international law, impeded ceasefire negotiations, exposed its
Speaker 2: negotiation negotiators to assassination, and provided legal cover for Israeli attacks. Andrew,
Speaker 2: I'm baffled by this. Can you actually believe that our
Speaker 2: court system is being used for this?
Speaker 3: Well? Can I believe it? Unfortunately, yes, I can believe it.
Speaker 13: Sorry about the noise of the copies, I can absolutely
Speaker 13: believe it.
Speaker 3: Daanika sadly, But.
Speaker 13: What I can say to this this is a t
Speaker 13: for Anthony Albanesi. This is a test for this federal
Speaker 13: government to instruct its lawyers to fight this application tooth
Speaker 13: and nail, because we cannot allow a situation where the
Speaker 13: government has listed as it rightly should have, Hamas as
Speaker 13: a terrorist organization in this country.
Speaker 3: We cannot allow a situation where that is attacked.
Speaker 13: Because these Hamas terrorists clearly demonstrated where they're at. On
Speaker 13: the seventh of October twenty twenty three, they killed twelve
Speaker 13: hundred innocent Israelis in cold blood.
Speaker 3: I've seen the video.
Speaker 13: I saw what they did with my own eyes, and
Speaker 13: it's seared into my brain ever since they raped and
Speaker 13: took over two hundred and fifty one hostages. We cannot
Speaker 13: allow Hamas to try and wind this back. This is
Speaker 13: a very very significant test for Anthony Albanesi and we
Speaker 13: should as a government be fighting this tooth and nail.
Speaker 2: Yet no, look, I completely agree with you. I'm baffled
Speaker 2: that this is even occurring, but you're right we shouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised by it. Andrew, thank you very much for
Speaker 2: joining me. I have to say I enjoy the sounds
Speaker 2: of the Sunshine Coast in the birds behind you. I
Speaker 2: must say it's very on brand with where you're joining
Speaker 2: us from tonight.
Speaker 13: Denikair, if you've got time quickly for me to talk
Speaker 13: about the Daniel Morcambe.
Speaker 2: Day, very quickly tell us about it.
Speaker 13: This morning we had the Walk for Daniel to commemorate
Speaker 13: the life of Daniel Morcambe, who died twenty two years
Speaker 13: ago in Palmwoods in my hometown here on the Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 13: He was killed, of course, by a pedophile who's now
Speaker 13: serving a long time in jail. Eight thousand schools.
Speaker 3: Got together to take part in the Walk for Daniel.
Speaker 13: More than two million people across the country have been
Speaker 13: involved in this movement.
Speaker 3: Bruce and Denise morcamb.
Speaker 13: Have dedicated their lives to the dedication of Daniel's legacy.
Speaker 13: But really concerningly this week and over the last three weeks,
Speaker 13: this government has consistently rejected a private member's bill that
Speaker 13: Julie and Lisa and I have been pushing through the
Speaker 13: Parliament that will see mandatory minimum sentences increased for sex
Speaker 13: offenders charged with Commonwealth offenses, and the government continues to
Speaker 13: block this at every opportunity.
Speaker 3: It just beggars belief why they would do that.
Speaker 13: But we will keep pushing for this because pedophiles need
Speaker 13: to ensure and where's a society need to ensure that
Speaker 13: the punishment fits the crime, because that's not what's happening
Speaker 13: right now.
Speaker 2: No, I agree. I mean, as I said to you
Speaker 2: last week, I'm shocked that this isn't in law already.
Speaker 2: So it's a worthwhile cause. To keep going after Andrew Wallace,
Speaker 2: we've got to leave it there. Nice to see you
Speaker 2: as always, Thanks very much for joining me on the show.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Well, let's get more now on the net
Speaker 2: zero debate. Jude Blick is a senior policy analyst with
Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies, and he joins me now
Speaker 2: in the studio. Jude, good to see you. Thanks very
Speaker 2: much for joining me on the show. Show. Look, as
Speaker 2: I just mentioned there, I mean, the Coalition is really
Speaker 2: dilly dallying on this. Labour's got us on a renewaballs
Speaker 2: only magic carpet ride. You're an expert in this field.
Speaker 2: What should the Coalition do? Do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty clear. To be honest, the Coalition should
Speaker 4: ditch net zero. Absolutely. There's two reasons for that in
Speaker 4: my view. First is the principle, I mean, net zero
Speaker 4: is built on a fundamental lae, which is that we
Speaker 4: can save the world and we can do it for free.
Speaker 4: And of course that's built on the lie of wind
Speaker 4: and soul of being the cheapest form of power, which
Speaker 4: is just very clear now that it isn't. And the
Speaker 4: second is actually politics. I mean, I think the political
Speaker 4: wins are blowing in the Coalition's favor. Here, it's two
Speaker 4: and a half years until the next election. That's two
Speaker 4: and a half years of time for people to figure
Speaker 4: out that the energy transition is not going smoothly. Bad
Speaker 4: news will come and more bad news, And I think
Speaker 4: there's a strong opportunity for the Coalition to take a
Speaker 4: strong position early. People are going to come to them,
Speaker 4: and that's going to be huge in terms of building trust.
Speaker 2: I agree, And I mean in the end, voters should
Speaker 2: have a clear cut decision. And bear in mind the
Speaker 2: Coalition took net zero twenty fifty to the last two
Speaker 2: elections and they still lost, so that there needs to
Speaker 2: be some differentiation. Absolutely, But I have to ask you
Speaker 2: in your view. I mean, there's been figures thrown up,
Speaker 2: but how much do you think it's going to actually
Speaker 2: cost us to get to net zero twenty fifty?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's all kinds of different ways you can calculate this, right.
Speaker 4: I think the easiest way for me is if you
Speaker 4: look at the core government planning document, the Integrated System Plan.
Speaker 4: It tells you of all the future plans for the
Speaker 4: electricity grid in particular, and in there it's very clear
Speaker 4: we're going to triple the amount of transmission infrastructure on
Speaker 4: the grid, and we're going to quadruple the amount of
Speaker 4: generation infrastructure, So triple and quadruple all to produce the
Speaker 4: same amount of power as we have been this whole time.
Speaker 4: In fact, probably less because we're closing industry, so he's
Speaker 4: more cost onto the same amount of power. I don't
Speaker 4: see any way. But we're going to get out of
Speaker 4: this without tripling bills, to be honest, And we might
Speaker 4: not pay all of that through our bills. There's going
Speaker 4: to be government subsidies. We might pay that through taxes instead,
Speaker 4: or not us. Maybe our children or our grand children
Speaker 4: will pay that. But yeah, I don't see anyway without
Speaker 4: a tripling off bills, it's going to cost an exhorbitant amount.
Speaker 4: And that's just thectricity section of net zero. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's only thirty five percent of our society's emissions. So
Speaker 4: how on earth we're going to get around to the
Speaker 4: other sixty five percent is a huge question mark.
Speaker 2: Well, we're already paying through the roof as it is,
Speaker 2: so it's going to get worse.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: Look, let's talk about the latest CPI data. Household electricity
Speaker 2: costs have grown by twenty three point six percent in
Speaker 2: the past twelve months. The real cost of electricity grew
Speaker 2: nine percent over the September quarter, on top of a
Speaker 2: rise of an eight point one percent in the June quarter.
Speaker 2: But Chris Bowen saying it's all progress.
Speaker 14: There is no coincidence that the quarterly report, which showed
Speaker 14: a thirty eight percent reduction in wholesale prices, also shows
Speaker 14: the highest renewable penetration for that quarter in Australian history.
Speaker 14: Mister speaker, this is the sign of progress.
Speaker 2: Well, dud, look, I know what planet the minister is
Speaker 2: on here. But it was always going to happen, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: When government subsidies and across the country have seen as
Speaker 2: well they start petering out. Consumers were always going to
Speaker 2: reap the costs. Bowen says, it's it's progress.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, it's no surprise that the
Speaker 4: subsidies have rolled out and we've started to see the
Speaker 4: CPI rise, and there's always a political strategy anyway to
Speaker 4: hide the costs from the Australian people until after the election.
Speaker 4: And this progress stuff from Bowen, it's beginning to sound
Speaker 4: a bit all welling in isn't it. We've heard that
Speaker 4: word already on the show. But yeah, this notion that
Speaker 4: you can just call something progress and just expect people
Speaker 4: to believe it, it's absolutely false. This it's not progress
Speaker 4: at all. It's taking our country backwards. And you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just reminded of other eras in world history where
Speaker 4: we've made colossal mistakes and called them progress. You think
Speaker 4: of Males Great leap forward, which is a massive industrial shift.
Speaker 4: And yeah, you can call something progress, but I'll believe
Speaker 4: it when I actually see it, not just by the word.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and we're not seeing that progress when you
Speaker 2: look at your power bills every quarter, you're not seeing progress,
Speaker 2: are you now, Jude, Let's talk about the Tomago aluminum smelter,
Speaker 2: high energy prices and a lack of renewable supply threatening
Speaker 2: to shut it by twenty twenty eight. Former New South
Speaker 2: Wales Minister and the head of the Climate Change Authority
Speaker 2: Keen stood at that site in twenty twenty one, claiming
Speaker 2: renewable energy would help the Hunter remain the powerhouse of
Speaker 2: New South Wales. Have a listen.
Speaker 15: I'm here with the rockstar politician itself, Parliamentary Secretary for
Speaker 15: the Hunter to announce that we're opening expressions of interest the.
Speaker 2: Hunter Central Coast renewable energies.
Speaker 1: Are you excited about this talent?
Speaker 2: Matt is a great name of jobs across the Hunter.
Speaker 16: There are eighteen hundred jobs here. Tomago Alaminum Smelter alone
Speaker 16: a huge employer. But our renewable enage non policy is
Speaker 16: going to underpin reliable to pure and cheap electricity.
Speaker 9: The generations can.
Speaker 2: Come well, Jude, now more than one thousand jobs could
Speaker 2: go in the next few years. Is this another example
Speaker 2: of an Australian manufacturer that is going broke because of
Speaker 2: the renewables only fantasy?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's not just another example. It should be the example, right,
Speaker 4: I mean that quote from Keen aged horribly. Yeah, Like
Speaker 4: it's incredible just to see the dissonance there. And I
Speaker 4: think if this isn't the example, what are we waiting for?
Speaker 4: What other canary in the coal mine has to has
Speaker 4: to fall over for us to say, oh, maybe we've
Speaker 4: gone a bit too far here on this netzero thing.
Speaker 4: We've had Andrew Hasty come out recently and expressed his
Speaker 4: his I guess the appetite for Australia to be the
Speaker 4: renewable and notable. But his Yeah, did for Australia to
Speaker 4: be good at making stuff, not just a nation of manufacturing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: white makers in his opinion. And yeah, if we don't
Speaker 4: get energy right, energy is the core of this. I mean,
Speaker 4: we've got to decide what kind of a nation we
Speaker 4: want to be. So yeah, it's absolutely fundamental, it's so important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, doubt it's a shame what's going on in
Speaker 2: the Hunter. Jud Blick. Great to have you on the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, Really appreciate it. Nice
Speaker 2: to meet you. Thank you well. Coming up after the break,
Speaker 2: Victoria's parliament passes a divisive treaty, ignoring the majority of
Speaker 2: Victorians who said no to the voice that more with
Speaker 2: my panel coming up next welcome back. Joining me now
Speaker 2: is New South Wales Independent MP Tanya Mahalik and former
Speaker 2: New South Wales Police Minister David Elliott. Height of both
Speaker 2: of you. Thank you for joining me. Look, we've got
Speaker 2: to start with this Victorian treaty passing parliament in the
Speaker 2: last few hours. The Premier just Center Allen has released
Speaker 2: a statement saying last night Victoria made history the first
Speaker 2: state in the nation to pass a treaty with First Nations.
Speaker 2: People's built on truth, on respect, on trust. This is
Speaker 2: what progress looks like, what respect feels like. And this
Speaker 2: is how we move forward together, you know, Tanya, moving
Speaker 2: forward together? Well, the only people moving forward are the
Speaker 2: sixty five thousand Aboriginals in the state. What does it
Speaker 2: mean do you think.
Speaker 6: Well, all right, no, if the sixty five thousand Aboriginal
Speaker 6: people will actually benefit, I think a very select few
Speaker 6: might benefit from this, and that is those who might
Speaker 6: get a job out of it. We already know that
Speaker 6: the authority has blown out in wages and costs, and
Speaker 6: it's a five member authority with executive, with the CEO.
Speaker 6: That's already two point two million dollars just five people
Speaker 6: getting paid.
Speaker 2: It's enormous. You know, I'd like to apply. Yeah, we all.
Speaker 6: Interesting that Justint Allen talks about respect, because why does
Speaker 6: she just respect the Victorian.
Speaker 2: View on the voice and the voice.
Speaker 6: You know, every state and territory bar act said no,
Speaker 6: resoundingly said no to the voice. And this is the
Speaker 6: voice by stealth. That's what this is and what it
Speaker 6: means for Victorians, particularly for the hard earned taxpayers of Victoria,
Speaker 6: is it their money.
Speaker 2: Will be blown at this.
Speaker 6: It'll be a bottomless pit, a financial black hole. This
Speaker 6: authority we forever in the red. And where should the
Speaker 6: money be spent? How about tackling youth crime? How about
Speaker 6: actually dealing with the hospital wait list, how about dealing
Speaker 6: with infrastructure projects that are in constant industrial disputes and
Speaker 6: finishing the actual projects. There's so much better projects and
Speaker 6: programs that could be better spent in Victoria.
Speaker 3: I hope the Coalition.
Speaker 6: Are true to their word when they say they're going
Speaker 6: to repeal this within one hundred days of being elected,
Speaker 6: because that might be the election decider this issue itself.
Speaker 2: You know what, it could very well be. I think
Speaker 2: that is a very good point, Tanya and David. And
Speaker 2: we've seen other states forge ahead with their own voices
Speaker 2: to Parliament. Do you think now that we've seen a
Speaker 2: treaty in one state, we could see other labor governments go, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's happened in one state, let's follow suit.
Speaker 2: Is this a warning?
Speaker 15: Well, it could be, but let's face that the Victorian
Speaker 15: Labor Party is the most left wing government in the
Speaker 15: country and there's some of the wiser labor premiers around
Speaker 15: the state, around the country will be looking at this.
Speaker 15: But I actually think this is a turning point for
Speaker 15: the coalition in Victoria. I think it's a turning point
Speaker 15: for the government in Victoria. I think this is hubris
Speaker 15: in its finest. I think your comments about trust and
Speaker 15: respect are right, because there will be the majority of
Speaker 15: Victorians who did vote no against the Voice will think
Speaker 15: that that was just a complete waste of time because
Speaker 15: the government of the day has decided that they would
Speaker 15: circumnavigate the Commonwealth and have their own I haven't seen
Speaker 15: in anything that I've read in the last seventy two
Speaker 15: hours about this legislation that is going to improve the
Speaker 15: life of one Indigenous kid. But meanwhile, the coalition down
Speaker 15: in Victoria have got an opportunity to highlight the priorities
Speaker 15: of the government and it isn't the priority of law
Speaker 15: and order. And I shout out to David Southwick. I
Speaker 15: think I think he's finally getting his message out there.
Speaker 15: The Victorians are suffering. I mean, when the labor lord
Speaker 15: mayor of Victoria of Melbourne has to employ his own
Speaker 15: private police force, you know that there's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly, And that's when you know you've got
Speaker 2: big issues in the state. Now let's talk about the
Speaker 2: man formerly known as Prince Andrew, that is now just
Speaker 2: Andrew mount Batton Windsor, who has been stripped of his
Speaker 2: Prince title and is being forced out of the Royal Lodge.
Speaker 2: Of course, it comes weeks after it was announced that
Speaker 2: King Charles's younger brother would no longer use his Duke
Speaker 2: of York title. Well, you know what, good riddance, Tanya.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been scandal after scandal with this blow.
Speaker 2: This was bound to happen.
Speaker 9: Yeah, long overdue.
Speaker 6: Obviously, her Majesty, bless her soul, was never going to
Speaker 6: do it because that was her son. But credit to
Speaker 6: his majesty, the King, King Charles, who I had the
Speaker 6: great privilege and honor of meeting last year when he
Speaker 6: was here in Australia in Parliament and you could see
Speaker 6: he was unwell. You could see that he and look
Speaker 6: the fact that he even came to Australia was amazing.
Speaker 6: I think he's done the right thing by by of
Speaker 6: course the royal family, but by everyone. And it's so
Speaker 6: decisive his decision just to say that's it, no more,
Speaker 6: no more titles, no more loyal launch a thirty bedroom
Speaker 6: in a mansion that Andrew Batten Winsors had the pleasure
Speaker 6: of enjoying for thirty years.
Speaker 2: So I think it's been a decisive.
Speaker 6: Decision from the King and credit to him and to
Speaker 6: everybody that's been involved in this, because I think they
Speaker 6: needed to do this because there's been so much you know,
Speaker 6: in the media and this idea that he was going
Speaker 6: to get I think given Frogmore cottage or adelaide I mean,
Speaker 6: there was all these other talk of having you know,
Speaker 6: a negotiation or something at all too.
Speaker 2: They just couldn't do that.
Speaker 6: But well, I don't know what was true in the media,
Speaker 6: but all of that really I think got under people's
Speaker 6: skin and everybody just is happy that there's decisive decisions.
Speaker 2: I completely agree. But overall, David, I think it's it's
Speaker 2: really embarrassing for the royal family to have to do this,
Speaker 2: and I think that it was probably Prince William he said,
Speaker 2: all right, come on, we've got to move Andrew on.
Speaker 2: But what's your take on it?
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, the Royal family have proven that they're
Speaker 15: like every other family. They've got their problem children and
Speaker 15: this is at the King. He's a very very empathetic person,
Speaker 15: he's a very very genuine person. What I'm probably the
Speaker 15: greatest monarchers of modern times. And this would have happened
Speaker 15: a hundred years ago. This wouldn't because they would have
Speaker 15: covered it up. So this does show progress in our
Speaker 15: constitutional monarchy because it does show that they are not
Speaker 15: above the law.
Speaker 3: The tragedy of all this, of.
Speaker 15: Course, Danika, is that in a week's time, Princess Anne
Speaker 15: arrives in Australia and she's here to do some charitable work,
Speaker 15: and she's here in her capacity as the honoree Colonel
Speaker 15: of the Royal Australian Signals Corps. The first question she's
Speaker 15: going to get asked is going to be about her
Speaker 15: deby brother.
Speaker 1: And the tragedy is that all of the goodwill, all
Speaker 1: of the good work.
Speaker 15: All of the charitable work that the Royal family does,
Speaker 15: has been absolutely has been dwarfed by this scandal. And
Speaker 15: as far as I'm concerned, even though that he did,
Speaker 15: Sir with distinction in the Falklands, it doesn't give you
Speaker 15: a leave pass. I mean, he was there with Harvey
Speaker 15: Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein exact was Ivan Malatt. I mean,
Speaker 15: idn't be surprised that I can't believe he hangs around.
Speaker 2: With I wonder if I even went to a party
Speaker 2: at the lodge as well. I mean, everyone seemed to
Speaker 2: have been invited to the party at that line except us,
Speaker 2: and well, thank goodness for that. Now, look, I want
Speaker 2: to end on a bit of fun. Now, let's talk
Speaker 2: about your column in the Daily Telegraph today, David Ways
Speaker 2: to annoy your wife, Gee that this is a bit dangerous.
Speaker 2: You've listed burn food, put away stuff that hasn't been
Speaker 2: cleaned properly, the toilet seat, wake her up at three am.
Speaker 2: Quite an extensive list you've given.
Speaker 15: Usniki, you weren't supposed to read that column. It was
Speaker 15: specifically it was specifically identified as secret men's business. But
Speaker 15: I did have to reach out to my fellow husbands
Speaker 15: and I just highlight the fact that you know you
Speaker 15: can play, you can't fight fire with fire if necessary,
Speaker 15: and some easy tips there on how to get out
Speaker 15: of work at home and to make sure that the
Speaker 15: battle of the sexes remains an even battle.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I would agree with the toilet seat.
Speaker 2: I think that that's a definite shocker, all away stuff
Speaker 2: that hasn't been cleaned properly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, yes, yes, and the snoring, snoring, the snoring
Speaker 6: at three am.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, well done, David had done.
Speaker 15: What are your bet we cover the big issues on
Speaker 15: a Friday, That's what this is.
Speaker 2: Not Friday before for the heart winning issues on the
Speaker 2: Dadakity Georgia Show. Exactly. We've got to leave it there,
Speaker 2: David Elliott, Tanya Mahala, Come a good weekend. Thanks for
Speaker 2: Joe to me. We're coming up after the break. We
Speaker 2: are going to go live to the UK and get
Speaker 2: more on Andrew as he's stripped of his title and
Speaker 2: kicked out of the Royal Lodge. That's next.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I spoke earlier about how good it was to finally
Speaker 2: hear a politician willing to pull back the curtains on
Speaker 2: the horrors of gender ideology. After Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson
Speaker 2: spoke in the Senate this week. She was joined in
Speaker 2: Canberra by Giggle for Girls founder Sal Grover, who was
Speaker 2: asked by an ABC journalist, is it an extreme ideology
Speaker 2: for people to express themselves how they want to express themselves?
Speaker 2: Have a look.
Speaker 5: It is extreme to put it into law in a
Speaker 5: way that takes away other people's rights. So everybody should
Speaker 5: have the right to express themselves however they want. That's
Speaker 5: a free society. But one person's right to express themselves
Speaker 5: stops if it takes away the rights of other people
Speaker 5: in order for them to do it.
Speaker 2: And Salgrover joins me in Our Lives, sal good to
Speaker 2: see you. Look. Well, the ABC wanted a gotcha moment
Speaker 2: out of you, but look, tell us about your time
Speaker 2: in Canberra. The fact you had to go there to
Speaker 2: explain the difference between a man and a woman, I've
Speaker 2: got to say, speaks volumes about our parliamentarians.
Speaker 5: Seriously, you couldn't make it up, could you. But thank
Speaker 5: you very much for sharing that response to the ABC,
Speaker 5: because they did not so.
Speaker 3: I was asked a question by.
Speaker 5: The NABC journalist and it never went to air. And
Speaker 5: I think that's part of the problem that we've had
Speaker 5: with this sort of institutional capture in the country of
Speaker 5: media and institutions like the Sex Discrimination Commission and many
Speaker 5: politicians who are saying that men can be women and
Speaker 5: we all.
Speaker 2: Know that they're not.
Speaker 5: So basically, we went to Canberra on the invitation of
Speaker 5: Senator Sarah Henderson, was joined by Drew Hutton, who is
Speaker 5: one of the co founders of the Greens Party, and
Speaker 5: we wanted to make it very clear to everybody that
Speaker 5: this is not a left versus right issues. This is
Speaker 5: not just conservatives speaking out. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of things that Drew and I would not agree on,
Speaker 5: but on this we're in agreement and we have to
Speaker 5: be able to come together to say there's some reality
Speaker 5: that needs to be acknowledged. And one of those things
Speaker 5: is that men cannot be women, women cannot be men.
Speaker 5: Children should not be medicated with puberty blockers across sex,
Speaker 5: womans under the guise of a lie that they can
Speaker 5: change sex, and they shouldn't be taught it in schools.
Speaker 5: It's really simple, basic stuff that was actually always in law,
Speaker 5: and then everyone just went completely crazy.
Speaker 2: About ten years ago.
Speaker 5: So I'm so grateful that we actually have the opportunity
Speaker 5: to speak to some politicians finally and explain to them
Speaker 5: what not only a biological woman is, but what a
Speaker 5: biological man is, because something that the Sex Discrimination Commissioner
Speaker 5: herself could not respond to.
Speaker 2: No, Well, Anna Cody's got no idea the difference between
Speaker 2: a man and a woman. But we pay her four
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year and she doesn't know the
Speaker 2: definition of the first word in her title, so yeah,
Speaker 2: go figure. But look well done. In Canberra this week,
Speaker 2: now I want to ask you about Queensland. Their Health
Speaker 2: minister has used extraordinary powers to reissue a statewide ban
Speaker 2: on puberty blockers, hours after a Supreme Court judge ruled
Speaker 2: that the government's initial ban was made unlawfully. So common
Speaker 2: sense from the state government. But once again we've got
Speaker 2: a court making a decision on gender ideology. And this
Speaker 2: is of course something that you know all too well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this goes back to what I was
Speaker 5: just saying of our institutions being captured and unfortunately one
Speaker 5: of those. It seems in certain circumstances it's the courts.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they are making good decisions. The Family Court has
Speaker 5: made a few good decisions. But I mean, this is
Speaker 5: such an interesting case in Queensland of basically a mother
Speaker 5: being so desperate to give potentially sterilizing drugs to her
Speaker 5: child that she went to the Queensland Supreme Court in
Speaker 5: order to make it happen. What the Queensland government has
Speaker 5: proven is that actually politicians can just step in and
Speaker 5: do the right thing. Something we have been asking federal
Speaker 5: politicians to do for years. I've been dragged through the
Speaker 5: court now for almost four years with giggle v tickle
Speaker 5: to establish what a woman is. And it's only recently
Speaker 5: that liberal politicians are actually coming to the party and
Speaker 5: really actually trying to.
Speaker 3: Do something about it.
Speaker 5: But I mean, we have a better chance of getting
Speaker 5: water out of a stone or a man actually turning
Speaker 5: into a woman than labor doing anything about it at
Speaker 5: this point.
Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right, We're almost our time. But I
Speaker 2: just want to ask you about nine men being named
Speaker 2: as Glamour UK magazines twenty twenty fifty Women of the Year.
Speaker 2: You know, saw once upon a time women had to
Speaker 2: be finn to be on the cover of magazines. There's
Speaker 2: outcry over that. Now men are name women of the year,
Speaker 2: and where's the outcry? Where are all the feminists gone? Now?
Speaker 5: That's so stupid. I mean, I'm really quite amused by this.
Speaker 5: Protect the dolls. They've got what they've got on their
Speaker 5: t shirts and then it's just the dolls and this
Speaker 5: actually this is history to this that actually makes it
Speaker 5: quite transphobic under gender ideology, because the dolls was the
Speaker 5: term for men who pass as women. The men who
Speaker 5: don't pass as women called bricks. And you don't see
Speaker 5: glamour out there going protect the bricks or celebrate the bricks,
Speaker 5: nor are they ever in the name of transrax cellar
Speaker 5: breeding the women who claim to be men or anyone
Speaker 5: who's non binary. This is the most male centric movement
Speaker 5: we have seen in decades. It is all centered around
Speaker 5: men who claim to be women, and we're supposed to
Speaker 5: accept them as better women than women.
Speaker 2: No, it's so stupid.
Speaker 5: I mean, this just feels like it's like the tail
Speaker 5: end of the movement and they're just desperately trying to
Speaker 5: keep it going. But I think we're all over it
Speaker 5: and too smart for it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they keep shoving it down our throats, but
Speaker 2: I do agree. I'd like to think that people have
Speaker 2: realized that. Sal Grover, nice to see you as always,
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for coming on the show. Appreciate it. Well,
Speaker 2: let's return now to Andrew, who has lost his title
Speaker 2: of prince and will leave the Royal Lodge. Buckingham Palace
Speaker 2: has announced the king's younger brother will now be known
Speaker 2: as Andrew Mountbatten Winsor. Following a string of controversies and
Speaker 2: he's ties to of course, Jeffrey Epstein, Gilain Maxwell and
Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein joining me now is reform UK Counselor Darren Grimes, Darren,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining me. Well, look, this is unprecedented, probably
Speaker 2: not surprising. What's been the reaction over there to this?
Speaker 17: Look, I think actually there's been a sort of collective
Speaker 17: of outreach saying, look, this is two decades too late.
Speaker 17: You know, her majesty the Queen was never going to
Speaker 17: do this. This was her favorite son. But ordinary Britts,
Speaker 17: I think are actually cheering this on the coronation of
Speaker 17: common sense. I would actually profer King Charles has finally
Speaker 17: taken out the palace pest and someone who actually I
Speaker 17: think has disgraced the institution, a really important institution. Andrew
Speaker 17: was effectively the monarchy's embarrassing uncle. You know, he was
Speaker 17: almost always one scandal away from ruining Sunday lunch. And
Speaker 17: now the palace has actually finally had the I think guts.
Speaker 1: Maybe actually at the direction of.
Speaker 17: The behest of the future king that is, of course,
Speaker 17: his Royal Highness, the Prince of Wales, William. And this
Speaker 17: isn't a pr exercise. I think it's a statement that
Speaker 17: the crown will stand for judy, which is what Prince
Speaker 17: Andrew wants displayed when he fought gallantly in the Falklands,
Speaker 17: but not actually the disgrace that he's brought subsequently, Danika.
Speaker 2: No, look, I completely agree, and I just wonder, now, Darren,
Speaker 2: what sort of a precedent this will set. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got the non royals, got Meghan and Harry. I
Speaker 2: just wonder if they're next to mean, could they even
Speaker 2: be stripped of their titles?
Speaker 1: It's a good question.
Speaker 17: Look, I think actually this will be a short term sting,
Speaker 17: but a long term detox. I was told, and you
Speaker 17: were told I've no doubt on this very show that
Speaker 17: you couldn't remove a title of prince, that it was
Speaker 17: impossible to do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 17: Actually, we've just had the royal equivalent of changing the
Speaker 17: locks after a dodgy lodger moves out of your lodgings.
Speaker 1: You know, Andrew was reckless.
Speaker 17: There was the sweating denials, the Epstein links, the pitch
Speaker 17: at the Palace scandal where he gave access like a
Speaker 17: labor Australian politician to Chinese business leaders, later actually flagged
Speaker 17: as potential spy. It's not actually Royal Service. It's selling
Speaker 17: the crown like he's popping it on EQY and that's
Speaker 17: exactly what Harry and Meghan did to the institution too,
Speaker 17: you know, whacking on the Sussex logo on top of
Speaker 17: some jam that she's seeking herself for sixty dollars.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely absurd.
Speaker 17: And you know, Danika, what I would say is, whilst
Speaker 17: this is probably troubling news for the royal soul, Bropera
Speaker 17: and Montecito, who have done actually a lot of damage
Speaker 17: to the monarchy as well as Andrew, I would say
Speaker 17: this morning, there is one happy customer and that's Keir
Speaker 17: Starmer's labor government because Poling just found that they are
Speaker 17: more unpopular than Prince Andrew. So any bad press for
Speaker 17: Prince Andrew will be music to their is Anika.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Its I mean when you reach that point, Darren,
Speaker 2: good grace, you must think to yourself for really they've
Speaker 2: lost the plot now wow, Well, look let's talk some
Speaker 2: politics because Reform UK. Later, Nigel Faraj, he's about to
Speaker 2: take back control of the borders by unveiling legislation to
Speaker 2: leave the European Convention on Human Rights. But as he
Speaker 2: laid out, the bill in Parliament, he was repeatedly heckled
Speaker 2: and called Putin's pet have a look.
Speaker 1: And do you wonder? Do you wonder? It's marvelous to
Speaker 1: see the intellectual levels of debate in this place. It
Speaker 1: really is do you wonder? Do you wonder? Out in
Speaker 1: the country there is growing frustration.
Speaker 2: Order darreny could Billy get a word in? What is
Speaker 2: going on over there?
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, that's a complete not a disgrace, you know.
Speaker 17: It's a perfect snapshot of the rot within Westminster. The
Speaker 17: moment that someone actually defends Britain and our borders, the
Speaker 17: establishment actually turn into a pack of playground bullies, showing
Speaker 17: themselves to be completely removed from the concerns of the
Speaker 17: British public that were yelling at Farage because they've run
Speaker 17: out of arguments. The East chr has become a lawyer's paradise.
Speaker 17: It's a system that blocks deportations and keeps dangerous men
Speaker 17: on our streets. It protects the rights of migrants to
Speaker 17: access British chicken nuggets. Are not joking over actually our
Speaker 17: right to safety and security.
Speaker 1: Britains are actually dying whilst they laugh.
Speaker 17: When Broadhurst, a council worker who was walking his dog
Speaker 17: was stabbed to death by an Afghan who arrived here
Speaker 17: illegally and was granted leave to remain. We just had
Speaker 17: a guy in a Derby bank who was stabbed whilst
Speaker 17: doing his banking by a boat migrant who had already
Speaker 17: threatened to kill hundreds of people. This isn't rhetoric, you know,
Speaker 17: This isn't me making things up. These are ordinary people
Speaker 17: paying the price for the political and moral cowardice displayed
Speaker 17: with them Parliament. So how dare they sit there and laugh?
Speaker 17: They are laughing at the British public. They show their
Speaker 17: contempt for us Danika and it will be reflected at
Speaker 17: the results of the next general election.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised they are showing contempt. I mean
Speaker 2: it's an absolute disgrace. It's sad that ordinary, everyday Britain's
Speaker 2: are being put second in in the UK. Darren Grimes,
Speaker 2: lovely to see you as always, Thanks very much for
Speaker 2: joining me on the show. Appreciate it. Coming up after
Speaker 2: the break, the winners and losers of a week, including
Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe's latest rant and the White House getting into
Speaker 2: the spirit of Halloween. It's that time of the week
Speaker 2: where we sought the winners from the losers, and helping
Speaker 2: me to do that is Sky News contributor Louise Roberts.
Speaker 2: Lou Liice to see you, thanks so much for joining me. Now,
Speaker 2: your winner this week is King Charles for taking action
Speaker 2: against Andrew.
Speaker 18: Absolutely he has executed the most delicate royal maneuver with
Speaker 18: absolute precision. He's left Andrew with no wriggle room at all,
Speaker 18: which was evident I think by the comment that he
Speaker 18: did not object to losing his titles or being kicked
Speaker 18: out of the Royal Lodge, and of course he would
Speaker 18: have been absolutely livid about it. But what a great
Speaker 18: move by Charles. So he's definitely my winner of the week.
Speaker 18: But I wanted to know as well that in the
Speaker 18: statement that he put out that he talked about sympathies
Speaker 18: with victims and survivors of abuse, which I thought was
Speaker 18: a very classy act as well, and also gives some
Speaker 18: sort of vindication for what Virginia Giffrey went through, because
Speaker 18: Andrew has never given anything of that department told to her,
Speaker 18: any concession to her or her family or other victims.
Speaker 18: So you know, well.
Speaker 2: Done, and you know when you watch back that interview
Speaker 2: where he says he has a sweating issue. Oh it
Speaker 2: just makes you feel sick. Honestly, good riddance by now
Speaker 2: my win of this week. I had to give it
Speaker 2: to the White House. I thought it was so they're
Speaker 2: getting into the spirit of Halloween. Have a look at this.
Speaker 2: I just think Donald Trump and Millennia are just fantastic.
Speaker 2: And the costumes looked incredible. Those kids were decked out
Speaker 2: to the nines. I love it. Here we look at this,
Speaker 2: look at this back tod I just think it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: But I love the way they've decked it out, the costumes,
Speaker 2: the decorations I thought was fantastic. South Thorne looks amazing.
Speaker 18: But also those the violinists playing Thriller, which I thought
Speaker 18: was such a fabulous touch.
Speaker 2: But there's so many kids in their families.
Speaker 18: People really wanted to go along and see him, and
Speaker 18: they're so generous with the chocolates, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they made experience it once. It are like, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 2: we're going to get that again. Now all those of
Speaker 2: this week is Lydia Thorpe. Here we go. Now we
Speaker 2: all remember these comments earlier this month at a pro
Speaker 2: Palestine protests, and if I.
Speaker 19: Have to brand down, how them how to make it?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, typical. She's refusing to apologize.
Speaker 20: Here we are treating a metaphor like a national emergency.
Speaker 2: What a joke.
Speaker 20: The problem isn't my words, it's the colonial systems that
Speaker 20: still refuse to change. I won't apologize and I won't
Speaker 20: be dragged down. Then there's a right wing media. They
Speaker 20: love to let me about seeking headlines, but they're the
Speaker 20: ones riding the headlines.
Speaker 2: Oh look, there's a lot we can say. But what
Speaker 2: do you say about me? It's the same old, same old.
Speaker 18: Blame everyone else, don't take accountability for some inflammationy remarks.
Speaker 18: She's an elected senator, she's in a great position to
Speaker 18: do a lot of good, but she's become an outrage machine.
Speaker 2: I completely agree, and we're quite frankly sick of it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but she's still going to be there for
Speaker 2: quite a while. Watly, now, I had to give my
Speaker 2: loser for a second week running Louise to the Bureau
Speaker 2: of Meteorology. Seriously, this disastrous four million dollar tax payer
Speaker 2: funded website change. In the last few hours, it's said
Speaker 2: it's going to revert back to its previous color scheme
Speaker 2: on its rain radar and weather map. But have a
Speaker 2: listen to this apology.
Speaker 19: I'd like to offer my sincere apologies for the challenges
Speaker 19: the change has caused. It's clear that we need to
Speaker 19: do more to help people navigate the change, both by
Speaker 19: making adjustments to the website and by helping users understand
Speaker 19: its new features.
Speaker 2: It's like a hostage video. Why don't they just admit
Speaker 2: that they buggered the whole thing up?
Speaker 18: Well, and it's cause real issues for It's not just
Speaker 18: like you and I going out something is it raining?
Speaker 18: There's people in the regions who have to move cattle
Speaker 18: or protect crops who rely on online whether service like
Speaker 18: the bomb and they couldn't access it. They didn't know
Speaker 18: where the maps were, the rain, the floods, storms, whatever,
Speaker 18: And that's a major fail for four million dollars, I mean.
Speaker 2: Seriously, I mean it's a lot of money. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of money to be splashing around for what has
Speaker 2: been a serial error. But yeah, they said they're going
Speaker 2: to go back to the same color scheme, but still ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Lloyds Roberts have a great weekend. Thanks you so much
Speaker 2: for joining me. Really appreciate it. But that's it. For me,
Speaker 2: I'll be back on Sunday night. It's seven for Deneka
Speaker 2: and James. Stay with us. Steve Prices next. Good Night,