WEBVTT - Danica De Diorgio | 31 October 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:07.120 Live on Skynes, Australia. This is d Nika di Georgio. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:10.720 Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight, the 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.040 Coalition does the net zero hokey pokey half in, half 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.320 out after a meeting in Canberra today to discuss omissions reductions? 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.400 Has anything actually been achieved? A day ago, all Victorians 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.040 were equal. What a difference a day makes. As the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.280 state passed its treaty bill dividing people by the color 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.840 of their skin, and King Charles strips Prince Andrew of 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.040 his remaining royal title, evicting his brother from the Royal Lodge, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.519 will go live to the UK for the latest shortly 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.800 for first tonight. Victoria is officially cooked. After more than 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.440 fifty four percent of Victorians said no to the divisive 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.080 voice to Parliament. Premier sin To Allen gave her citizens 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.800 a two finger salute and enhrined the state into race 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.440 based politics via a treaty which passed Parliament last. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.240 Night Eyes twenty one No. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:03.920 Sixteen. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:15.720 The Council has agreed to the bill without amendment. Great. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.600 Just what a state with record crime and record debt 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.720 needs a divisive treaty at a cost of tens of 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.400 millions of dollars a year to the taxpayer. I mean, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.240 Victoria is already a burning inferno, so why not just 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.600 add more fuel to the flames. Twenty four hours ago, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.640 all Victorians had the same rights. Twenty four hours later, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.520 that's all changed. What began as a plan to improve 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.880 the lives of Indigenous Australians is now a power grab 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.319 that will turn the state into two classes. And after 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.600 the legislation passed, the Premier said, this is how we 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.040 build a fairer, stronger Victoria for everyone. Yeah, a fair 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.120 and stronger Victoria for the sixty five thousand people who 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.840 identify as Aboriginal, not the overarching seven million residents of 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.720 the state. There was no public debate, nobody voted for this, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.560 so why is it there? Well, according to the treaty, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.680 it's because traditional owners enjoy a sacred relationship born at 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.320 the first sunrise and sustained for over sixty thousand years 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.960 that can never be extinguished. It's the seven million Victorians 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.840 who get to self extinguish as they are shackled down 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.280 to funding. How much, well, we don't know yet, but 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.720 as the Premier has previously said, everything is on the table. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.880 A whole range of other matters will be put on 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.239 the table for negotiations. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.520 So I'm not in a position today to rule anything 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.880 in or out about what might be considered through those 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.080 treaty negotiations. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:52.679 Yeah, we know what that means, money, reparations, compensation, anything 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.840 goes in Victoria. And we already got a glimpse of 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.320 that this week when Saint Vincent's Hospital announced that Indigenous 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.960 patients are receiving fast tracked health care at its emergency 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.280 department ahead of semi urgent and non urgent patients. So 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.240 treating patients by race. This division is being forced upon us. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.760 And as I said, nobody ever voted for this, and 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.280 now it's about to get a whole lot worse under 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:23.040 treaty and watch the state change pretty swiftly. Under this, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.560 a new Indigenous representative body called gellung Wall will elect 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.359 its thirty three council members. Oh and if you're part 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.520 of the ordinary seven million Victorians, you get to pay 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.960 for it to the tune of seventy million dollars a year. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.480 So what will happen in the short term? While in schools, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.120 children between prep and year ten will be indoctrinated into 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.000 truth telling curriculum never mind, English, maths or science. The 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.960 Indigenous Body will oversee training programs and guidelines for public 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:57.240 servants to ensure they are culturally capable, move over goals 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.480 and KPIs and welcome the brave, rare and full new 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.280 world of cultural capability, where the body will then monitor 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.320 public servants. I mean, will bureaucrats be doomed to a 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.840 daily welcome to country under these new workplace cultural capability rules. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.640 The new body will mandate that government departments consult on 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.360 programs affecting Indigenous people, require new legislation be assessed for 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:27.000 treaty compatibility, and establish a new naming authority for geographical features. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.360 So it's like when you travel with Quantus. You know, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.159 you look at the board and it says you're flying 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.800 to Balloo, when all you want to know is that 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.040 you're flying to Perth and that you're actually at the 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.800 right gate. So if you don't speak or read an 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:45.080 Indigenous language, too bad, confusion continues. Oh, and there's more. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.320 The group will be given a dedicated named rome in 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:53.080 Victorian Parliament, So a parliament within a parliament. That's what 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.440 it sounds like to me. While the treaty legislation states 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.520 the body does not limit the power of State Parliament. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.240 It provides Gelong Wall with broad and undefined powers, with 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.479 the intention that they evolve over time. You can see 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.320 where this is going. Can't you one set of rules 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.800 for one group and one set of rules for another. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.719 I think it's appalling legislation. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:24.720 Victoria En Masse voted against the Voice against treating Australians 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:28.040 differently based on their skin color. This treaty in Victoria 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.960 is giving certain rights and privileges to one group of 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.520 Australians over another. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.520 And this is just the start. It's the Victorian taxpayer. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.640 He's going to cop the repercussions of treaty every day, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.120 hardworking citizens who've done nothing wrong but have been made 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.400 out to be the enemy and as the people responsible 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.159 for any injustice so that Jacina Allen can feel good 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.240 about herself. This is race based politics and it's been 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.880 forced upon you by left wing governments who are tying 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.159 themselves in knots of guilt. And it's not just Victoria. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.760 South Australia has a First Nation's Voice to Parliament despite 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.880 only ten percent of Indigenous voters turning out for its 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.080 State Voice election ten percent and South Australia claimed it 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.760 was a great result and went ahead anyway. So what's next. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.480 I mean, it started with preferential hospital treatment. It's about 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.640 to infect schools and workplaces and state parliament and inevitably 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.240 laws and regulations and for you, you'll have to cough 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.440 up the money. Now, what's clear is left leaning, woke 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.159 governments won't stray away from this separatist agenda despite the 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.480 will of Australians. It's the type of division that sixty 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.960 percent of us said no to. I mean, we aren't 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.080 some sort of apartheid country, but Victoria is there. Could 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.840 the message of the voice vote have been any more clearer? 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.239 Apparently not. The political elites have decided for you, unless, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.839 of course, you're one of the sixty five thousand who 0:06:54.880 --> 0:07:04.120 identify as Aboriginal in Victoria. Well, what is a woman? 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.200 Apparently it's a very difficult question for Australia to answer. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.760 And I really do mean Australia, because the UK knows, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.280 the US knows. Over the ditch in New Zealand, they're 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.440 even doing better than us. I mean, just ask Anna Cody, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.880 Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who can't even define the first 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.080 word in her. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:33.480 Title lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are a range 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.600 of people who identify as women who are women. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.679 Did you mean that biological males can be women men? 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.559 So I think that we have different language that perhaps 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.320 you're using than I would use. So I don't understand 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.960 the term biological men. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.320 Yeah, riddle me this. We as taxpayers are funding a 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.720 sex discrimination commissioner to the tune of four hundred thousand 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.760 dollars a year who doesn't know the difference between a 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.160 man and a woman. Yes, this is the Australia we 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.880 are living in and it's all considered normal because we 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.560 do not have laws that protect women. Thanks to Julia 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.880 Gillard who are mended the Sex Discrimination Act in twenty thirteen, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.440 removing the definitions of sex man and woman. So basic 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.840 biology is rendered useless in this country. And that is 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.320 why it was so good to finally hear a politician 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.000 willing to pull back the curtains on the horrors of 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.880 gender ideology. Here was liberal Senator Sarah Henderson in the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:33.760 Senate this week. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.400 Frankly, too many people in positions of authority have jumped 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:44.240 aboard the politicized and ideological trans train under the false 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:52.000 pretensions pretenses of compassion, tolerance, diversity and inclusion. The Victorian 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:56.040 Premier to Sinta Allen is one such leader. Our Sex 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:00.840 Discrimination Commissioner, which is meant to uphold seeks space rights, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:07.040 refuses to acknowledge biological sex. It's positively orwellian, but we 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:12.320 should not be surprised. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner is part 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.520 of the Australian Humor Rights Commission, which has now become 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.600 an activist organization. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.120 And look, she's not wrong. How can the Sex Discrimination 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.320 Commissioner claim to be an advocate for women when she 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.240 doesn't even know what a woman is? And I commend 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.400 Senator Henderson for speaking up. We need more politicians like 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.960 this willing to come out against entrenched gender ideology. When 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.640 the Senate last tried to debate restoring biological definitions in 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.640 the Act in August, the Minister for Women, Katie Gallaher 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:44.600 shut it down. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.280 We do not agree with the Senate being a place 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.320 where individual harm can be done to young people across 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.080 this country, and that is what would have happened had 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.960 we allowed this field to proceed in the normal course, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.560 and we won't stand for it. Trans children deserve better 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:02.680 from this chamber. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.440 The Minister for Women labeled a bill to restore women's 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.239 sex based rights as harmful. Again, this is the Australia 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.200 we are living in now. Senator Henderson was joined in 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.240 Canberra this week by Giggle for Girls founder Sal Grover, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.800 who will join me later in the show, and even 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.760 Green's co founder Drew Hutton. Did we ever think we 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.840 would see a day where a Greens member or now 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.120 former Green's member is pushing for the protection of women's 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.440 rights and safety. And I say former because Drew Hutton 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.600 has been expelled from the party for wanting to protect 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.040 the rights of women. Who would have thought the left 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.640 are not so tolerant after all, But look at points 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.839 to something bigger. This is not a left versus right issue. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:47.400 Women's rights the definition of a woman. It's mainstream. It's 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.680 always been non partisan. It impacts both sides of politics, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.320 and there are many on the left equally as worried 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.920 about women's rights being erased. But thanks to warped gender 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.720 ideology which has been politicized, as Sarah Henderson pointed out, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.400 if you talk about it, you're labeled as some sort 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.920 of bigot or far right wing nut job. Now, this 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.439 should not be a controversial issue. It's only been controversial 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.160 for five minutes because politicians like Jacinta Allen have made 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.440 it controversial. The Victorian Premier doesn't seem to think there's 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.920 an issue with a male prisoner who raped his own 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.319 child being housed in a women's prison because they now 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.760 identify as a woman. Politicians like the Minister for Women 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.880 Katie Gallaher have made it controversial. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.000 and A Cody has made it controversial. Now, perhaps these 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.160 women should take a simple biology lesson from the movie 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:40.599 Kindergarten Cop. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.959 Police have a penish girls. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:50.160 Half of that, Jaina, thanks for the tip. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:59.800 Yep, it really is that simple. Well. Liberal members have 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.560 been thrashing out climate policy in Canberra today as the 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.600 coalition works towards a position the party has to have 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.560 a fight on this on net zero because the question 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.600 is when a power price is going to come down 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.480 and the reality is nobody knows and we're stuck on 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.880 this renewables only magic carpet ride to reach a target 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.160 we've been told time and time again that we won't reach. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.720 Here was Shadow Energy Minister Dan Tee, and today after 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.520 several members of the coalition. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:35.079 Met incredibly helpful for me as I continue this process 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.800 of making sure that we've got energy in omissions reduction 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.480 policy that is in the national interest. And the key 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.480 takeout for me is that how many things that we're 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.439 united on. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.199 And Opposition leader Susan Lee was not at today's gathering 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.600 and by all accounts it seems the party won't get 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.160 to a net zero position before Christmas. This is what 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:55.679 she said. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.400 And when we see this government's train wreck energy seat 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.920 writ large at Tommaga Aluminium, we know that it is 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.360 important that we get this right and this government has 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:07.240 not got it right. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.679 Jody me Now for more on this is the Shadow 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.640 Attorney General Andrew Wallace. Andrew, good to see you as always, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.000 Thanks for joining me. I know you weren't at today's 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.400 meeting in Canberra, but it seems the coalition still doing 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.000 this net zero hokey pokey. It's got one arm in, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.840 one arm out. Realistically, what has this meeting achieved in 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.360 your view? 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.840 Well, Janika, thanks for having me on. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.280 This was a pretty standard committee meeting for to be 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:42.280 looking at our energy issues. Dantean is working assiduously. He's 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.520 a very very good man. He's a smart man. I've 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.840 got a lot of faith in dan landing this policy 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.640 in the right place. It was my understanding from talking 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.840 with colleagues this afternoon. It was a very very respectful 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.000 meeting and there was a significant meeting of the minds 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.760 amongst my colleague. I wasn't there, but that was the 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.240 feedback I got, So that is good. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.120 We will keep working on this. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.520 I've said to your time and time again, Danica, we 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.200 need the opportunity to get this policy right because when 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.520 you look at what was announced during the week with 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.720 tom Ago, as Susan said, we've now got a situation 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.560 where one of in fact the largest aluminium smelter in 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.160 this country is now talking to its employees and saying 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.240 we have to relook at our business model here because 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.800 they can't keep going as they're going. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.040 Because of their energy prices. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.480 And when the largest energy producer in this country can't 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.360 make a fist of it with energy prices. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.600 That they're paying, how does mum and dad, How does. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.440 Mum and dad balance their bank budget or the budget 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.120 at home with their energy prices. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.120 The answer is, of course they can't. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.880 Yeah, and I don't disagree with you, I completely agree, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.920 but the reality is I mean the coalition is really 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.000 tying itself in not so over this. Voters deserve a 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.800 clear contest because power bills are going in the other direction, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.000 as you know, as the coalition knows Andrew, and that 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.200 is the key issue here. I mean, don't voters get 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.880 to have that choice? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.040 And they absolutely will get that choice. We are not 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.600 even six months into this term. There's another more than 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.160 two and a half years to go before the next election, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.000 and I can tell you this much, Danika, we will 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.680 land a policy well and truly before that time. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.760 I appreciate that families are doing a tough. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.240 Businesses are doing it tough, from your local fish and 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.240 chip shop owner right through to Tomago Eudy minium smelter. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.960 Australians across this country just having so much trouble balancing 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.680 the books because of this country is because of this 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:54.680 government's insane energy policy of putting everything on black, putting 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.240 everything on our renewable energy. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.560 Now, renewable energy. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.680 Has got a part to play, but at the end 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.360 of the day, it simply cannot provide industry and commerce 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.120 the sort of full time energy that it needs at 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.800 affordable prices. And that's the difference We used to be 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.960 one of the most affordable energy producers in the world. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.960 Yeah, well, and now it's sending us broken backwards in 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.359 the process. Look, let's move on. Hamas wants the Australian 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.880 government to remove its listing as a terror organization. Is 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.000 actually filed documents in the Federal Court arguing the terror 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:33.640 listing has breached international law, impeded ceasefire negotiations, exposed its 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:39.560 negotiation negotiators to assassination, and provided legal cover for Israeli attacks. Andrew, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.040 I'm baffled by this. Can you actually believe that our 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.520 court system is being used for this? 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.720 Well? Can I believe it? Unfortunately, yes, I can believe it. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:56.480 Sorry about the noise of the copies, I can absolutely 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:56.880 believe it. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.360 Daanika sadly, But. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.880 What I can say to this this is a t 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.040 for Anthony Albanesi. This is a test for this federal 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:09.320 government to instruct its lawyers to fight this application tooth 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:14.560 and nail, because we cannot allow a situation where the 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:19.160 government has listed as it rightly should have, Hamas as 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.960 a terrorist organization in this country. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.399 We cannot allow a situation where that is attacked. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.520 Because these Hamas terrorists clearly demonstrated where they're at. On 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.119 the seventh of October twenty twenty three, they killed twelve 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.359 hundred innocent Israelis in cold blood. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:36.439 I've seen the video. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.000 I saw what they did with my own eyes, and 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.320 it's seared into my brain ever since they raped and 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:48.520 took over two hundred and fifty one hostages. We cannot 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.600 allow Hamas to try and wind this back. This is 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.040 a very very significant test for Anthony Albanesi and we 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.600 should as a government be fighting this tooth and nail. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.480 Yet no, look, I completely agree with you. I'm baffled 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.280 that this is even occurring, but you're right we shouldn't 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.280 be surprised by it. Andrew, thank you very much for 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.240 joining me. I have to say I enjoy the sounds 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.200 of the Sunshine Coast in the birds behind you. I 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.040 must say it's very on brand with where you're joining 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.040 us from tonight. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.280 Denikair, if you've got time quickly for me to talk 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:23.680 about the Daniel Morcambe. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.600 Day, very quickly tell us about it. 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:31.560 This morning we had the Walk for Daniel to commemorate 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.800 the life of Daniel Morcambe, who died twenty two years 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.520 ago in Palmwoods in my hometown here on the Sunshine Coast. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.960 He was killed, of course, by a pedophile who's now 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.360 serving a long time in jail. Eight thousand schools. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.280 Got together to take part in the Walk for Daniel. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.520 More than two million people across the country have been 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:55.679 involved in this movement. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.520 Bruce and Denise morcamb. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.760 Have dedicated their lives to the dedication of Daniel's legacy. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.720 But really concerningly this week and over the last three weeks, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.760 this government has consistently rejected a private member's bill that 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.359 Julie and Lisa and I have been pushing through the 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:18.120 Parliament that will see mandatory minimum sentences increased for sex 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.679 offenders charged with Commonwealth offenses, and the government continues to 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.760 block this at every opportunity. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.160 It just beggars belief why they would do that. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.400 But we will keep pushing for this because pedophiles need 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.800 to ensure and where's a society need to ensure that 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.080 the punishment fits the crime, because that's not what's happening 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:37.440 right now. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.040 No, I agree. I mean, as I said to you 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.080 last week, I'm shocked that this isn't in law already. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.240 So it's a worthwhile cause. To keep going after Andrew Wallace, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:46.520 we've got to leave it there. Nice to see you 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.440 as always, Thanks very much for joining me on the show. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.960 Appreciate it. Well, let's get more now on the net 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.399 zero debate. Jude Blick is a senior policy analyst with 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.600 the Center for Independent Studies, and he joins me now 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.840 in the studio. Jude, good to see you. Thanks very 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.360 much for joining me on the show. Show. Look, as 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.440 I just mentioned there, I mean, the Coalition is really 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.840 dilly dallying on this. Labour's got us on a renewaballs 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.200 only magic carpet ride. You're an expert in this field. 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.200 What should the Coalition do? Do you think? 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.639 Yeah, it's pretty clear. To be honest, the Coalition should 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.840 ditch net zero. Absolutely. There's two reasons for that in 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.160 my view. First is the principle, I mean, net zero 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.680 is built on a fundamental lae, which is that we 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.840 can save the world and we can do it for free. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.440 And of course that's built on the lie of wind 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.320 and soul of being the cheapest form of power, which 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.480 is just very clear now that it isn't. And the 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.920 second is actually politics. I mean, I think the political 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.480 wins are blowing in the Coalition's favor. Here, it's two 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.760 and a half years until the next election. That's two 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.560 and a half years of time for people to figure 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.280 out that the energy transition is not going smoothly. Bad 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.280 news will come and more bad news, And I think 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.399 there's a strong opportunity for the Coalition to take a 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.240 strong position early. People are going to come to them, 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.359 and that's going to be huge in terms of building trust. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.240 I agree, And I mean in the end, voters should 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.159 have a clear cut decision. And bear in mind the 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.719 Coalition took net zero twenty fifty to the last two 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.840 elections and they still lost, so that there needs to 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.640 be some differentiation. Absolutely, But I have to ask you 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.320 in your view. I mean, there's been figures thrown up, 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.760 but how much do you think it's going to actually 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.720 cost us to get to net zero twenty fifty? 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.040 Yeah, there's all kinds of different ways you can calculate this, right. 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:17.600 I think the easiest way for me is if you 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.080 look at the core government planning document, the Integrated System Plan. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:22.920 It tells you of all the future plans for the 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.880 electricity grid in particular, and in there it's very clear 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.359 we're going to triple the amount of transmission infrastructure on 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.800 the grid, and we're going to quadruple the amount of 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.879 generation infrastructure, So triple and quadruple all to produce the 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.280 same amount of power as we have been this whole time. 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.359 In fact, probably less because we're closing industry, so he's 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.840 more cost onto the same amount of power. I don't 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.720 see any way. But we're going to get out of 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.320 this without tripling bills, to be honest, And we might 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:48.960 not pay all of that through our bills. There's going 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.720 to be government subsidies. We might pay that through taxes instead, 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.000 or not us. Maybe our children or our grand children 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.560 will pay that. But yeah, I don't see anyway without 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.920 a tripling off bills, it's going to cost an exhorbitant amount. 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.600 And that's just thectricity section of net zero. I mean, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.400 that's only thirty five percent of our society's emissions. So 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.840 how on earth we're going to get around to the 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.560 other sixty five percent is a huge question mark. 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.000 Well, we're already paying through the roof as it is, 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:13.879 so it's going to get worse. 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:14.159 Now. 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.639 Look, let's talk about the latest CPI data. Household electricity 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.000 costs have grown by twenty three point six percent in 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.840 the past twelve months. The real cost of electricity grew 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.440