1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:24,361 Speaker 1: Approach production for the record. 2 00:00:24,401 --> 00:00:27,641 Speaker 2: I'm don't try and make you uncomfortable for the record. 3 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:30,081 Speaker 2: You ain't trying to grow downy stuff for your right 4 00:00:30,241 --> 00:00:32,481 Speaker 2: for the record, laugh on me going all the way 5 00:00:33,161 --> 00:00:35,441 Speaker 2: way for the record. Ain't trying to link no time 6 00:00:35,481 --> 00:00:37,161 Speaker 2: to waste for the. 7 00:00:37,161 --> 00:00:43,521 Speaker 3: Record, for the record, for the for the record, for 8 00:00:43,601 --> 00:00:50,641 Speaker 3: the record, for the record, for the record, for the record. 9 00:00:50,681 --> 00:00:52,161 Speaker 1: I don't try and make you uncomfortable. 10 00:00:52,921 --> 00:00:53,121 Speaker 4: Right. 11 00:00:55,921 --> 00:00:57,921 Speaker 1: Season seventeen of the Clink. 12 00:00:58,121 --> 00:01:01,401 Speaker 5: Wow, it's been a fantastic season and I have enjoyed 13 00:01:01,441 --> 00:01:03,721 Speaker 5: every guest and I hope you have a big welcome to. 14 00:01:03,801 --> 00:01:04,881 Speaker 1: All new listeners. 15 00:01:05,401 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: We are really grateful for everybody that tunes in every week. 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: It's been phenomenal, an informative and absolutely enjoyable season today 17 00:01:13,441 --> 00:01:17,321 Speaker 5: and today's is no different. I have two young men 18 00:01:17,441 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: who are down in Sydney doing great things at the moment. 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,321 Speaker 5: These two young fellas have definitely got a history and 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,481 Speaker 5: a past that they have turned around now to better 21 00:01:26,521 --> 00:01:29,001 Speaker 5: their future and to help so many through their actions. 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,481 Speaker 5: These young men's business is called the go Getters. Welcome 23 00:01:33,601 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 5: to the Clink boys. 24 00:01:35,441 --> 00:01:35,841 Speaker 6: Thank you. 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 7: Thanks mate. 26 00:01:37,081 --> 00:01:39,121 Speaker 5: First of all, why don't you both start off just 27 00:01:39,121 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: by introducing because this is unusual. Normally I only run 28 00:01:42,321 --> 00:01:45,321 Speaker 5: one guest and today I'm running two. So this is 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: a little bit different from me here at the Clink. 30 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:49,561 Speaker 5: So we're going to have to learn this together and 31 00:01:49,801 --> 00:01:51,921 Speaker 5: patiently get through it. But we will and I know 32 00:01:51,961 --> 00:01:54,281 Speaker 5: it's going to be a great episode, one at a time. 33 00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Introduce yourselves. 34 00:01:56,041 --> 00:01:58,961 Speaker 4: My name is Jed Sewster. I'm the co founder of 35 00:01:59,001 --> 00:02:02,521 Speaker 4: the Go Getters. I'm twenty five years old from the 36 00:02:02,561 --> 00:02:05,881 Speaker 4: Central Coast and now I'm just here to help told you, 37 00:02:06,081 --> 00:02:09,001 Speaker 4: and like he breaches out to youth connections like as 38 00:02:09,001 --> 00:02:12,321 Speaker 4: a juvenile Justice centers, doc's children at the schools and 39 00:02:12,321 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff like that, we run a 40 00:02:13,721 --> 00:02:16,081 Speaker 4: group training session and anything we can do to help 41 00:02:16,121 --> 00:02:19,481 Speaker 4: the youth for anyone in that fact, Like I'm here 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,441 Speaker 4: to help kind of thing, you know. 43 00:02:21,081 --> 00:02:22,601 Speaker 7: Me and my name's Jake, and log Big all the 44 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:26,081 Speaker 7: boy's name as Milo, same thing, partnering the go Getters, 45 00:02:26,601 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 7: just pretty much trying to change all the stuff pretty 46 00:02:29,281 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 7: much we never had as a kid because we've lived 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,601 Speaker 7: through it. We've done it as a childhood from broken 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,481 Speaker 7: homes all the rest of us. So we just we 49 00:02:36,561 --> 00:02:38,561 Speaker 7: know exactly what we didn't have and what needs to 50 00:02:38,561 --> 00:02:41,001 Speaker 7: be done. So now we're just trying to focus all 51 00:02:41,041 --> 00:02:43,481 Speaker 7: our time on that instead of doing the wrong things 52 00:02:43,481 --> 00:02:46,001 Speaker 7: and going the wrong way. So it's blown up pretty 53 00:02:46,001 --> 00:02:48,041 Speaker 7: good for us so far, so we just can get 54 00:02:48,081 --> 00:02:48,401 Speaker 7: into it. 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 5: Look, I really love what you stand for, and I've 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,921 Speaker 5: been following your path now for a little while. And 57 00:02:54,001 --> 00:02:57,841 Speaker 5: a very dear friend brother of mine, I seen you 58 00:02:57,881 --> 00:03:00,841 Speaker 5: guys network with Big Dave Walker. Big shout out to Dave, 59 00:03:01,161 --> 00:03:03,721 Speaker 5: love your mate and everything you stand for, an absolute 60 00:03:03,841 --> 00:03:06,641 Speaker 5: leader in the industry of health and wellness, and also 61 00:03:06,761 --> 00:03:10,401 Speaker 5: to you know his passion around networking, connecting with people 62 00:03:10,441 --> 00:03:11,041 Speaker 5: to better. 63 00:03:10,841 --> 00:03:11,721 Speaker 1: The lives of others. 64 00:03:12,361 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: I myself have just literally come back from Townsville doing 65 00:03:15,761 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 5: very similar things which I would love to further talk 66 00:03:18,281 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: to you guys about in reference to workshops working around 67 00:03:22,001 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: our young people. I want to just start with we'll 68 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:28,601 Speaker 5: say Jed first, let's hear a bit of background, because 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: obviously our guests out there won't know much about you guys, 70 00:03:32,401 --> 00:03:36,521 Speaker 5: and I really feel that this platform is here to 71 00:03:36,641 --> 00:03:40,721 Speaker 5: deliver not only stories of redemption, but giving people inspiration 72 00:03:40,881 --> 00:03:43,721 Speaker 5: to be able to better themselves through their actions. What 73 00:03:43,761 --> 00:03:45,881 Speaker 5: we've done with the Clink now is we've tried to 74 00:03:45,881 --> 00:03:49,321 Speaker 5: incorporate people like yourselves that are successfully doing things off 75 00:03:49,361 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: the back of hardships and traumas, that are enabling yourselves 76 00:03:53,481 --> 00:03:56,121 Speaker 5: to be the best you can be and inspiring others 77 00:03:56,241 --> 00:03:59,281 Speaker 5: out there to chase their dreams and believe in themselves 78 00:03:59,321 --> 00:04:02,801 Speaker 5: because it's not easy and everyone's against you. I've just found, 79 00:04:02,841 --> 00:04:06,081 Speaker 5: you know, like, we had massive meat year impact and 80 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:09,161 Speaker 5: connection in Townsville and it was such a positive. But 81 00:04:09,281 --> 00:04:11,761 Speaker 5: yet on the backside of it, you know, there's a 82 00:04:11,801 --> 00:04:15,001 Speaker 5: particular media that decided to go backwards and bring up 83 00:04:15,001 --> 00:04:17,761 Speaker 5: myself and Jeremy's past and you know, run it as 84 00:04:18,081 --> 00:04:20,361 Speaker 5: a co story to back off the positive and the 85 00:04:20,361 --> 00:04:22,081 Speaker 5: facts of what's happening up there with the youth to 86 00:04:22,521 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: let's say smoke screen. 87 00:04:23,801 --> 00:04:26,121 Speaker 1: It cover all the bullshit up because we called. 88 00:04:26,001 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: Him out and it's all about now ex convicted fucking 89 00:04:29,481 --> 00:04:32,201 Speaker 5: criminals and all this sort of shit. It is a 90 00:04:32,281 --> 00:04:35,041 Speaker 5: tough slog I noticed one of your boys this week. 91 00:04:35,241 --> 00:04:37,961 Speaker 5: He's a fighter, and you know he's had to experience 92 00:04:37,961 --> 00:04:39,121 Speaker 5: that again with his license. 93 00:04:39,201 --> 00:04:39,761 Speaker 1: Unfortunately. 94 00:04:39,841 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 5: I reached out to him and just wanted him to 95 00:04:42,681 --> 00:04:45,281 Speaker 5: know that hanging in there because this is part of 96 00:04:45,281 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: the journey. Everyone's against this Jed, How has it been 97 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,601 Speaker 5: for you growing up? And take us back to you 98 00:04:50,601 --> 00:04:52,761 Speaker 5: know what it was like growing up and where. 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,561 Speaker 6: Growing up like I had nothing at all, like bare minimum. 100 00:04:56,561 --> 00:04:59,281 Speaker 4: You know, I was living in refugees, homeless since I 101 00:04:59,281 --> 00:05:01,881 Speaker 4: was about ten years old, kind of thing, really defending on. 102 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:03,361 Speaker 6: My own, like since kind of thing. 103 00:05:03,401 --> 00:05:03,601 Speaker 5: You know. 104 00:05:03,961 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: I was gone from Kasha, sleeping on the streets, and 105 00:05:07,401 --> 00:05:09,401 Speaker 4: my good mate Milo here like he he took me 106 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,281 Speaker 4: in when I was younger. That's why we've reconnected. He 107 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,801 Speaker 4: done seven years jail, so as soon as he got out, 108 00:05:13,841 --> 00:05:15,921 Speaker 4: we kind of reconnected kind of thing, which was a 109 00:05:15,961 --> 00:05:17,241 Speaker 4: blessing because. 110 00:05:17,001 --> 00:05:18,801 Speaker 6: He took me in under his wing when we were younger, 111 00:05:18,801 --> 00:05:19,401 Speaker 6: and that kind of thing. 112 00:05:19,401 --> 00:05:19,601 Speaker 7: You know. 113 00:05:20,481 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: So I never really had the structure all the tools 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: to do life, but I learned by myself how to 115 00:05:25,801 --> 00:05:26,681 Speaker 4: do that kind of thing, you know. 116 00:05:26,721 --> 00:05:28,521 Speaker 6: So I'm trying to give back to these kids. 117 00:05:29,041 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: Try giving the structure, Try giving the tools, the skills, 118 00:05:31,401 --> 00:05:33,241 Speaker 4: whatever they need to learn how to live life kind 119 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: of thing. 120 00:05:33,481 --> 00:05:35,721 Speaker 5: You know. I just wanted to touch on something and 121 00:05:35,761 --> 00:05:37,601 Speaker 5: this is important, just in what you just said. Then 122 00:05:39,641 --> 00:05:42,441 Speaker 5: you and Mila have been made since you were younger. 123 00:05:42,081 --> 00:05:45,921 Speaker 6: Young fellas right, really so babies, Yeah, did you. 124 00:05:45,961 --> 00:05:46,881 Speaker 1: Kick this off? Jed? 125 00:05:46,921 --> 00:05:49,761 Speaker 5: And then Milo's come home and then you've together now 126 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:53,961 Speaker 5: worked because they're right there. Inspires me hearing that that's 127 00:05:54,001 --> 00:05:57,921 Speaker 5: a true brother, a true man. And unfortunately, and I'm 128 00:05:57,921 --> 00:06:00,361 Speaker 5: going to be very real to everybody listening out. 129 00:06:00,241 --> 00:06:02,601 Speaker 1: There that might be living in a certain way. 130 00:06:02,641 --> 00:06:05,161 Speaker 5: I mean, we're not here to tell you how how 131 00:06:05,201 --> 00:06:06,601 Speaker 5: to live and what you should do, and where need 132 00:06:06,721 --> 00:06:08,441 Speaker 5: here to try and give you the guidance of from 133 00:06:08,481 --> 00:06:10,641 Speaker 5: our lived experience of what doesn't work. 134 00:06:10,721 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: We know it doesn't work. 135 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,041 Speaker 5: One thing when you walk out those gates is nine 136 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:16,801 Speaker 5: times out of ten, unless you come from a really 137 00:06:16,841 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: solid background. 138 00:06:17,641 --> 00:06:18,801 Speaker 1: Family, you got fucking nothing. 139 00:06:19,361 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: That's right, have a mate there to actually give you 140 00:06:22,521 --> 00:06:25,881 Speaker 5: a leg up that is so valuable and min It 141 00:06:25,961 --> 00:06:28,401 Speaker 5: must be amazing for you to know that you've got 142 00:06:28,401 --> 00:06:32,041 Speaker 5: that support there to then come into this space and 143 00:06:32,081 --> 00:06:36,001 Speaker 5: become passionate and have a purpose, have drive, want to 144 00:06:36,001 --> 00:06:37,121 Speaker 5: make change. 145 00:06:37,361 --> 00:06:39,121 Speaker 7: That means a lot, you know what I mean, especially 146 00:06:39,241 --> 00:06:41,961 Speaker 7: getting out for so long. You know exactly how it 147 00:06:42,001 --> 00:06:43,441 Speaker 7: would be a lot of people go missing, you know 148 00:06:43,481 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 7: what I mean, they just drop off. Plus getting out 149 00:06:46,521 --> 00:06:48,121 Speaker 7: trying to train and all that, you don't really have 150 00:06:48,201 --> 00:06:51,281 Speaker 7: much support, especially other people that have been such after 151 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,121 Speaker 7: a long time, they're all still doing the same shit. 152 00:06:53,721 --> 00:06:55,801 Speaker 7: So it was sort of hard to make that change 153 00:06:55,801 --> 00:06:57,161 Speaker 7: because you know, you get a lot of hate from 154 00:06:57,161 --> 00:06:59,561 Speaker 7: the boys. Whatever. They start to start doing the right thing, 155 00:06:59,641 --> 00:07:01,761 Speaker 7: but at the end of the day, I just seen 156 00:07:01,801 --> 00:07:03,561 Speaker 7: the more I focus on myself and not that, the 157 00:07:03,601 --> 00:07:06,601 Speaker 7: more further I got. So Whi's time to get onto that. 158 00:07:07,241 --> 00:07:09,321 Speaker 5: Well, you talk about hate from the boys, and this 159 00:07:09,401 --> 00:07:12,681 Speaker 5: is something that will also I think really important to 160 00:07:12,681 --> 00:07:16,481 Speaker 5: touch on because we all have this assumption that you know, 161 00:07:16,521 --> 00:07:18,001 Speaker 5: the phone's going to ring, the boys. 162 00:07:17,761 --> 00:07:20,401 Speaker 1: Are going to be there, we're all sweet, and that it's. 163 00:07:20,321 --> 00:07:22,841 Speaker 5: All good, you know, the brothers, the lads, and it's 164 00:07:22,841 --> 00:07:28,441 Speaker 5: just as someone who's spent fifteen years plus in by clubs, 165 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:31,321 Speaker 5: nearly fourteen years of my life locked up, one thing 166 00:07:31,361 --> 00:07:33,641 Speaker 5: I learned very quickly is you're on your fucking own 167 00:07:34,281 --> 00:07:36,881 Speaker 5: and at the end of the day, mate, when you 168 00:07:36,921 --> 00:07:40,081 Speaker 5: come out and decide you know you want to make change, 169 00:07:40,281 --> 00:07:42,721 Speaker 5: the phone doesn't ring, No one knocks on your door, 170 00:07:42,721 --> 00:07:45,001 Speaker 5: there's no invites to lunch's dinner, come and hang out, 171 00:07:45,001 --> 00:07:47,881 Speaker 5: come out of this whatever, it all stops, and you 172 00:07:47,961 --> 00:07:52,001 Speaker 5: become alienated. I think that that right there, especially for 173 00:07:52,081 --> 00:07:55,601 Speaker 5: young people, is such a hard thing to deal with 174 00:07:55,721 --> 00:07:58,041 Speaker 5: because we all want to we all want to be 175 00:07:58,081 --> 00:08:00,121 Speaker 5: called up, we all want to be fucking known that, Hey, 176 00:08:00,401 --> 00:08:02,521 Speaker 5: I'll pick you up, let's go train, let's go a fee, 177 00:08:02,601 --> 00:08:03,801 Speaker 5: let's go hang out, let's go check. 178 00:08:03,721 --> 00:08:04,881 Speaker 1: The chicks, whatever, whatever you do. 179 00:08:05,481 --> 00:08:07,721 Speaker 5: But all of a sudden, it's like you're one out, 180 00:08:07,841 --> 00:08:10,481 Speaker 5: you know, one out cell lockdown, and you've got nothing. 181 00:08:10,721 --> 00:08:11,561 Speaker 1: You've got jad here. 182 00:08:11,721 --> 00:08:15,241 Speaker 5: You've come home too, and together now you're thriving, lifting 183 00:08:15,281 --> 00:08:17,841 Speaker 5: each other up. And this is where I'm really proud 184 00:08:17,841 --> 00:08:21,001 Speaker 5: to invite you, guys upon here is because you're living it, 185 00:08:21,321 --> 00:08:23,281 Speaker 5: and I think it's so relevant to be able to 186 00:08:23,321 --> 00:08:25,841 Speaker 5: give that experience to others out there. And you're young men. 187 00:08:26,081 --> 00:08:27,921 Speaker 5: You know, like I'm an old boy now I'm nearly fifty, 188 00:08:28,001 --> 00:08:30,961 Speaker 5: so for me, i'm a husband. You guys are the present, 189 00:08:31,121 --> 00:08:34,961 Speaker 5: you're the leaders in your generation moving forward in this space. 190 00:08:36,041 --> 00:08:38,881 Speaker 5: Let's just talk about that loneliness and how you overcome that, 191 00:08:38,921 --> 00:08:39,521 Speaker 5: because I think. 192 00:08:39,361 --> 00:08:40,281 Speaker 1: It's really relative. 193 00:08:41,081 --> 00:08:43,201 Speaker 7: Well, most of the time, you just need like a 194 00:08:43,201 --> 00:08:44,921 Speaker 7: lot of support, and you needn't want to make the 195 00:08:45,001 --> 00:08:47,281 Speaker 7: change to begin with, because a lot of boys they 196 00:08:47,321 --> 00:08:50,241 Speaker 7: get offered help, whether it's inside, outside, whatever, and they 197 00:08:50,361 --> 00:08:53,041 Speaker 7: just they don't want to break people's hearts. They just say, yeah, 198 00:08:53,121 --> 00:08:55,361 Speaker 7: let's go, and most of the time they're not ready 199 00:08:55,521 --> 00:08:57,401 Speaker 7: for it yet. So you've got to be willing to 200 00:08:57,681 --> 00:09:00,121 Speaker 7: actually put the work into make the change from the start, 201 00:09:00,441 --> 00:09:03,081 Speaker 7: because a lot of boys just fuck up opportunities that 202 00:09:03,121 --> 00:09:06,441 Speaker 7: they get, but after that, like they alienated. You just 203 00:09:06,441 --> 00:09:08,361 Speaker 7: got to have the support and you have to be 204 00:09:08,401 --> 00:09:11,361 Speaker 7: just headstrong because a lot of people that's where they break, 205 00:09:11,441 --> 00:09:13,281 Speaker 7: like that's where they fold when they start getting left 206 00:09:13,321 --> 00:09:14,961 Speaker 7: on their own and then they start wanting the attention, 207 00:09:15,081 --> 00:09:17,561 Speaker 7: they start missing the boys, and that's where a lot 208 00:09:17,601 --> 00:09:19,161 Speaker 7: of that comes into the emotion, and then you end 209 00:09:19,241 --> 00:09:21,401 Speaker 7: up folding and going back to that same old lifestyle. 210 00:09:22,041 --> 00:09:24,601 Speaker 7: Pretty much. It takes the hardship to realize. You know, 211 00:09:24,801 --> 00:09:27,241 Speaker 7: you've got to go through the times where you actually 212 00:09:27,281 --> 00:09:29,041 Speaker 7: did need someone and no one was there for you 213 00:09:29,561 --> 00:09:32,321 Speaker 7: to realize, like, I'd rather be on my own because 214 00:09:32,401 --> 00:09:33,841 Speaker 7: I was left on my own when I was putting 215 00:09:33,881 --> 00:09:36,201 Speaker 7: in the effort for them people anyway, so I may 216 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:37,601 Speaker 7: as well take all that effort I was put it 217 00:09:37,641 --> 00:09:39,641 Speaker 7: in for them and put it in for myself because 218 00:09:39,681 --> 00:09:40,841 Speaker 7: the end of the day, I was on my own 219 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:42,361 Speaker 7: e rither. So the only one that's going to help 220 00:09:42,401 --> 00:09:44,361 Speaker 7: you is yourself really at the end of the day. 221 00:09:45,161 --> 00:09:47,641 Speaker 7: And you just got to yeah, pretty much, take the 222 00:09:47,641 --> 00:09:49,281 Speaker 7: boys that I've done it, and the people that are 223 00:09:49,321 --> 00:09:51,601 Speaker 7: just talking about it, and the people that have your 224 00:09:51,601 --> 00:09:53,601 Speaker 7: best interests at heart, and the end of the day, 225 00:09:53,681 --> 00:09:55,841 Speaker 7: most people know in their chest who that really is, 226 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:57,121 Speaker 7: whether they want to take it on board. 227 00:09:57,201 --> 00:10:00,321 Speaker 5: Ll night, I think, you know, surrounding ourselves with like 228 00:10:00,441 --> 00:10:04,361 Speaker 5: minded people. It's a little bit cliche, but it's so true, 229 00:10:04,481 --> 00:10:07,561 Speaker 5: you know, you guys, And I must say, if the 230 00:10:07,601 --> 00:10:09,961 Speaker 5: growth that I've seen from the outside looking in has 231 00:10:10,001 --> 00:10:12,401 Speaker 5: been phenomenal, you know, you should be very very proud 232 00:10:12,401 --> 00:10:15,281 Speaker 5: of yourselves. And we'll definitely get into the whole business 233 00:10:15,321 --> 00:10:16,761 Speaker 5: side and what you're achieving, because. 234 00:10:16,601 --> 00:10:17,401 Speaker 1: I think it's phenomenal. 235 00:10:17,401 --> 00:10:20,761 Speaker 5: But for now, I want to really give our listeners 236 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:25,081 Speaker 5: that background story because you know, people often leave little comments, 237 00:10:25,121 --> 00:10:27,561 Speaker 5: and you know, all these little people worriers and ghosts, 238 00:10:27,601 --> 00:10:30,401 Speaker 5: and you know, they'll talk shit about the fact that 239 00:10:30,761 --> 00:10:33,121 Speaker 5: the clink might. You know, are you praising this? We 240 00:10:33,201 --> 00:10:37,681 Speaker 5: don't praise anybody's criminality. It's just life. This is a 241 00:10:37,721 --> 00:10:42,361 Speaker 5: podcast that gives people, real people, an ability to connect 242 00:10:42,401 --> 00:10:45,521 Speaker 5: with people like ourselves, to share our stories and all 243 00:10:45,521 --> 00:10:48,601 Speaker 5: the other guests that have been here. With that comes 244 00:10:48,641 --> 00:10:53,921 Speaker 5: a lot of trauma, criminality, jail time, drug addiction. These 245 00:10:54,081 --> 00:10:57,041 Speaker 5: are things that have to be spoken about because without 246 00:10:57,041 --> 00:11:00,001 Speaker 5: that backstory, what the fuck does it matter what you're 247 00:11:00,001 --> 00:11:02,321 Speaker 5: doing today, because no one's going to actually connect and 248 00:11:02,361 --> 00:11:06,641 Speaker 5: feel relevant to your connection if you truly haven't lived. 249 00:11:07,241 --> 00:11:08,401 Speaker 1: It's so empowering. 250 00:11:08,521 --> 00:11:11,081 Speaker 5: I think seeing what you guys are doing, and as 251 00:11:11,081 --> 00:11:13,041 Speaker 5: I said, I'll keep going back. You only young men, 252 00:11:13,081 --> 00:11:16,161 Speaker 5: and I respectfully say that your men, but I'm just speaking. 253 00:11:16,401 --> 00:11:18,641 Speaker 5: This is your time, this is your generation, and what 254 00:11:18,681 --> 00:11:21,921 Speaker 5: you're doing you really are leading. And I just want 255 00:11:21,921 --> 00:11:24,601 Speaker 5: to give you, mate, the utmost respect and credit, because 256 00:11:24,641 --> 00:11:28,201 Speaker 5: I think it's fantastic. Jed, you obviously had a vision 257 00:11:28,201 --> 00:11:29,521 Speaker 5: and an idea. 258 00:11:29,641 --> 00:11:30,921 Speaker 1: I mean, Milo's come home. 259 00:11:31,281 --> 00:11:35,161 Speaker 5: Your partners in this wonderful movement, I'll call it if 260 00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:38,081 Speaker 5: I can. What made this want to be something that 261 00:11:38,121 --> 00:11:39,801 Speaker 5: you would have put your passion and join into. 262 00:11:40,841 --> 00:11:43,841 Speaker 4: I appreciate your words, just firstly, what you've just said 263 00:11:43,841 --> 00:11:46,121 Speaker 4: to us. It's just always been my passion, you know. 264 00:11:46,201 --> 00:11:48,041 Speaker 4: Just bring all the boys together kind of thing. Look, 265 00:11:48,521 --> 00:11:51,681 Speaker 4: you can call it a brotherhood of any a family community, 266 00:11:51,761 --> 00:11:53,801 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. Well, we're just all 267 00:11:53,841 --> 00:11:55,761 Speaker 4: one kind of thing. You know, we all gel together. 268 00:11:56,281 --> 00:11:59,441 Speaker 1: Well when you have women, you have Oh you've got 269 00:11:59,441 --> 00:12:00,681 Speaker 1: everybody there. It's awesome. 270 00:12:00,841 --> 00:12:04,681 Speaker 6: We've got mums, dad's kids. Yeah, I noticed even coming along. 271 00:12:04,721 --> 00:12:10,081 Speaker 4: You know, animals are all like, we love this stuff 272 00:12:10,161 --> 00:12:11,921 Speaker 4: kind of thing. You know, that's what we live off. 273 00:12:11,961 --> 00:12:14,161 Speaker 4: We strive off this stuff. Everyone just bonding together kind 274 00:12:14,161 --> 00:12:14,361 Speaker 4: of thing. 275 00:12:14,361 --> 00:12:14,521 Speaker 7: You know. 276 00:12:14,961 --> 00:12:17,641 Speaker 4: Drop but everyone's egos fucked, the egos off at the door. 277 00:12:18,001 --> 00:12:20,161 Speaker 4: Don't no one brings shit to my like my events 278 00:12:20,201 --> 00:12:21,961 Speaker 4: kind of thing, you know, just. 279 00:12:22,041 --> 00:12:25,281 Speaker 5: So you create a very neutral space where everybody's welcome, 280 00:12:25,361 --> 00:12:26,241 Speaker 5: no judgment and. 281 00:12:27,201 --> 00:12:28,081 Speaker 6: Bullshit free zone. 282 00:12:28,121 --> 00:12:30,801 Speaker 4: You know, there's no ship there, so everyone's having a laugh, 283 00:12:30,841 --> 00:12:32,721 Speaker 4: everyone's just having a good time. You know, everyone's trying 284 00:12:32,721 --> 00:12:36,281 Speaker 4: to help each other, like improving life kind of thing. Gradually, 285 00:12:36,521 --> 00:12:40,001 Speaker 4: just elevate every single day to attack your goals, attack everything, 286 00:12:40,081 --> 00:12:42,121 Speaker 4: you know, go against all odds. 287 00:12:42,081 --> 00:12:44,801 Speaker 7: Because especially like when you have the egos now and 288 00:12:44,801 --> 00:12:45,961 Speaker 7: they don't get left to the door, a lot of 289 00:12:45,961 --> 00:12:48,601 Speaker 7: people's self esteem gets affected because of that. So a 290 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,481 Speaker 7: lot of people that come in with their egos and 291 00:12:50,561 --> 00:12:52,241 Speaker 7: want to show pony stuff like that, there's a lot 292 00:12:52,281 --> 00:12:54,281 Speaker 7: of other people in the back end that no one 293 00:12:54,321 --> 00:12:56,481 Speaker 7: really sees. They lose their motivation, they lose their drive 294 00:12:56,641 --> 00:12:58,921 Speaker 7: just from someone's little actions. They don't really mean much 295 00:12:58,921 --> 00:13:00,481 Speaker 7: to anyone else. So we try and. 296 00:13:00,481 --> 00:13:02,081 Speaker 1: It's funny, isn't it. 297 00:13:02,161 --> 00:13:04,401 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's so relevant because we're all 298 00:13:04,441 --> 00:13:06,761 Speaker 5: so unique, you know, and we all come in all 299 00:13:06,761 --> 00:13:10,521 Speaker 5: different shapes and sizes, colors and creed. A non judgmental 300 00:13:10,521 --> 00:13:13,001 Speaker 5: safe place is something that we need, you know. We, 301 00:13:13,481 --> 00:13:15,881 Speaker 5: as I said, were up in Townsville just recently working 302 00:13:15,921 --> 00:13:18,841 Speaker 5: with all the community up there, and the diversity within 303 00:13:18,961 --> 00:13:21,641 Speaker 5: community up there between the ages of twelve and seventeen 304 00:13:21,841 --> 00:13:25,881 Speaker 5: was just crazy. I've never seen so much diversity in 305 00:13:26,001 --> 00:13:29,161 Speaker 5: such a small space. And it isn't that it's a 306 00:13:29,161 --> 00:13:32,161 Speaker 5: beautiful place up there, but it's a very small I 307 00:13:32,201 --> 00:13:34,641 Speaker 5: basically call it a redneck community and I love the place, 308 00:13:34,721 --> 00:13:36,921 Speaker 5: but people need to wake the fuck up because you know, 309 00:13:37,001 --> 00:13:40,321 Speaker 5: their attitudes up there and how they see what's going 310 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:40,921 Speaker 5: on up there. 311 00:13:40,841 --> 00:13:43,001 Speaker 1: Is just all politically driven. It's all bullshit. 312 00:13:43,201 --> 00:13:45,361 Speaker 5: And I know that New South Wales has you know, 313 00:13:45,721 --> 00:13:49,801 Speaker 5: very strict laws around consorting and you know people coming 314 00:13:49,841 --> 00:13:52,321 Speaker 5: together and trying to better themselves as well. 315 00:13:52,361 --> 00:13:54,121 Speaker 1: So I know that you know the flack you boys 316 00:13:54,641 --> 00:13:56,521 Speaker 1: would cop and especially. 317 00:13:56,081 --> 00:13:59,281 Speaker 5: You know, like struggling to get I guess blue cards 318 00:13:59,561 --> 00:14:01,321 Speaker 5: all the boxes that you've got a tick. 319 00:14:02,001 --> 00:14:05,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, you spoke earlier about getting in a jjson. 320 00:14:05,241 --> 00:14:09,041 Speaker 5: You've an our Justice Centers Joey Kwan, who's a great mate, 321 00:14:09,241 --> 00:14:11,721 Speaker 5: who's done amazing things out there in that space, and 322 00:14:11,761 --> 00:14:14,441 Speaker 5: the boys have been going in for quite some time 323 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:18,121 Speaker 5: now with their organization working with young people through fitness 324 00:14:18,201 --> 00:14:21,321 Speaker 5: and wellness programs. Is this something that you want to 325 00:14:21,721 --> 00:14:26,681 Speaker 5: also do but in your own way and delivery anything. 326 00:14:26,321 --> 00:14:27,801 Speaker 4: That branches out to that kind of thing, you know, 327 00:14:28,161 --> 00:14:32,081 Speaker 4: we're all for it. Anything that's going to help another person, 328 00:14:32,081 --> 00:14:33,041 Speaker 4: you know, we're all for it. 329 00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:35,721 Speaker 5: So what have mean some of the hurdles Jed like, 330 00:14:35,801 --> 00:14:38,801 Speaker 5: because look, let's be honest, these things don't come easy 331 00:14:38,841 --> 00:14:41,321 Speaker 5: and it is so easy to go fuck it, it's 332 00:14:41,321 --> 00:14:44,961 Speaker 5: too hard. Everyone doesn't know. You've got, as I said, 333 00:14:45,001 --> 00:14:47,281 Speaker 5: you've got to tick boxes. And because of the way 334 00:14:47,281 --> 00:14:49,361 Speaker 5: the politics are today and the way that the laws 335 00:14:49,401 --> 00:14:52,721 Speaker 5: are and everything around this space, they're making it harder 336 00:14:52,721 --> 00:14:56,441 Speaker 5: for anybody with criminal history, especially current. In the last 337 00:14:56,441 --> 00:14:59,761 Speaker 5: four or five years, I myself have fucking me and 338 00:14:59,801 --> 00:15:02,881 Speaker 5: dragged through the ringer. You know, my last true conviction 339 00:15:03,041 --> 00:15:06,601 Speaker 5: was twenty ten, so we're talking fifteen years ago. Flip 340 00:15:06,641 --> 00:15:08,801 Speaker 5: the coin, and there's still a battle that I'm battling. 341 00:15:08,881 --> 00:15:11,081 Speaker 5: But it doesn't mean to say I'm fucking guilty of anything. 342 00:15:11,081 --> 00:15:13,201 Speaker 5: It just means I'm still going through a process from many, 343 00:15:13,241 --> 00:15:15,841 Speaker 5: many years ago. You boys have to deal with young 344 00:15:15,881 --> 00:15:20,601 Speaker 5: people coming out obviously on parole, probation from court, suspended sentences. 345 00:15:20,441 --> 00:15:21,401 Speaker 1: Whatever it might be. 346 00:15:22,161 --> 00:15:25,521 Speaker 5: How does that work and how do you work around 347 00:15:25,761 --> 00:15:28,081 Speaker 5: these sort of things to bring those people that really 348 00:15:28,121 --> 00:15:30,041 Speaker 5: need that support into your space. 349 00:15:30,801 --> 00:15:32,241 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look at at the end of the day, 350 00:15:32,281 --> 00:15:33,881 Speaker 4: no rest, no reward kind of thing. You know, you 351 00:15:33,961 --> 00:15:35,921 Speaker 4: just got to keep risking it for the biscuit kind 352 00:15:35,961 --> 00:15:38,761 Speaker 4: of thing. We haven't meet every single day with different communities, 353 00:15:38,761 --> 00:15:40,761 Speaker 4: different people and all that you get knocked back to 354 00:15:40,761 --> 00:15:42,761 Speaker 4: a few because of you come on the record, you know, 355 00:15:43,121 --> 00:15:45,481 Speaker 4: but you might get that other few, you know, so 356 00:15:45,761 --> 00:15:47,161 Speaker 4: even if you've got the other few, you can still 357 00:15:47,201 --> 00:15:48,841 Speaker 4: move forward. Like we're not going to stop just because 358 00:15:48,841 --> 00:15:50,761 Speaker 4: we've got knocked back buying company kind of thing, you know, 359 00:15:50,881 --> 00:15:51,681 Speaker 4: one hundred percent. 360 00:15:51,881 --> 00:15:54,361 Speaker 7: Like we even had a little experience not too long 361 00:15:54,441 --> 00:15:57,481 Speaker 7: ago where they were all sweet about it, invited us 362 00:15:57,561 --> 00:15:59,801 Speaker 7: to the company all the rest, and then only one 363 00:15:59,881 --> 00:16:02,001 Speaker 7: or two people had something to say about our pomenal history. 364 00:16:02,081 --> 00:16:05,321 Speaker 7: So therefore they knocked at back. But like, don't get 365 00:16:05,361 --> 00:16:07,081 Speaker 7: me wrong, there is them days where we say fuck 366 00:16:07,121 --> 00:16:09,441 Speaker 7: it and then there's go two three hours by and 367 00:16:09,481 --> 00:16:12,201 Speaker 7: we go, no, fuck it, start doing it again, like 368 00:16:12,241 --> 00:16:15,161 Speaker 7: I've been out earlier year now my children Working with 369 00:16:15,281 --> 00:16:17,721 Speaker 7: Children shacks is still going now still I'm going still 370 00:16:17,721 --> 00:16:19,601 Speaker 7: hasn't been approved. That's been in the works for about 371 00:16:19,641 --> 00:16:23,161 Speaker 7: ten months still now, so it won't. 372 00:16:22,921 --> 00:16:25,641 Speaker 1: Come anytime soon either. Brother. That's the problem myl is. 373 00:16:25,921 --> 00:16:29,601 Speaker 5: Look, there is the loopholes, and use them, you know, 374 00:16:29,641 --> 00:16:31,161 Speaker 5: as long as you're besides someone. 375 00:16:31,201 --> 00:16:32,841 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same as me, you know, Like. 376 00:16:32,801 --> 00:16:34,681 Speaker 5: I can't get a blue card obviously at the moment 377 00:16:35,121 --> 00:16:37,321 Speaker 5: because of my court proceedings and so on. And that 378 00:16:37,321 --> 00:16:39,201 Speaker 5: doesn't mean to say we're bad people. It just means 379 00:16:39,241 --> 00:16:42,321 Speaker 5: that's a political side. But because of whatever, you know, 380 00:16:42,441 --> 00:16:46,481 Speaker 5: the government deems to be unfit. Yet we bring so 381 00:16:46,601 --> 00:16:50,121 Speaker 5: much value to the table, So help others to put. 382 00:16:49,881 --> 00:16:51,561 Speaker 6: All people love. 383 00:16:51,601 --> 00:16:53,601 Speaker 4: Just bringing up the past and just judging to buy 384 00:16:53,681 --> 00:16:55,921 Speaker 4: who you were kind of thing, you know, not even 385 00:16:55,921 --> 00:16:57,841 Speaker 4: who you were, just what you've done and what you've 386 00:16:57,841 --> 00:16:58,801 Speaker 4: been through people are. 387 00:16:59,681 --> 00:17:02,161 Speaker 5: I think it's really relevant, Jed, And I think that 388 00:17:02,601 --> 00:17:04,281 Speaker 5: you know, like when you talk and I'm going to 389 00:17:04,321 --> 00:17:06,241 Speaker 5: touch on this so you know, for everyone out there, 390 00:17:06,281 --> 00:17:09,481 Speaker 5: please don't take this for anything than what I'm speaking 391 00:17:09,521 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 5: and the facts, and that is, you know, you've got 392 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,281 Speaker 5: your scum pedophilia out there that are just so accepted as. 393 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:16,001 Speaker 1: The fucking norm. 394 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 5: You know, all these hideous crimes that just get swept 395 00:17:20,241 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 5: under the carpet. But yet get a couple of knock 396 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,241 Speaker 5: about blokes, you know what I mean, might have been 397 00:17:24,241 --> 00:17:27,801 Speaker 5: been involved in some sort of gang activity, club life, okay, 398 00:17:27,801 --> 00:17:31,481 Speaker 5: you've got done deal and drugs, stolen cars, fucking stick up. 399 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: Whatever it might be. 400 00:17:32,441 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 5: When I speak and milo, you can relate to this obviously, 401 00:17:35,201 --> 00:17:37,561 Speaker 5: especially not so long coming out. You know, the mentality 402 00:17:37,561 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 5: of criminal these days has changed. The acceptance of you know, 403 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,001 Speaker 5: the old school crim has changed, and I don't like 404 00:17:45,041 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 5: to even label us as crims anymore. But this is 405 00:17:48,281 --> 00:17:49,961 Speaker 5: this is where okay, but this is who we are, 406 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,801 Speaker 5: This is our past. I don't care. You young fellas 407 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: today are going through an even tougher period than blokes 408 00:17:57,721 --> 00:18:01,521 Speaker 5: like myself, where on the back end of something that's 409 00:18:01,721 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: really sort of a movement coming forward, which you guys 410 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,921 Speaker 5: are going to have to live with going into the future, 411 00:18:08,961 --> 00:18:12,081 Speaker 5: with all these sort of political agendas and so on. 412 00:18:12,321 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how does it make you feel within yourselves now? 413 00:18:16,721 --> 00:18:19,001 Speaker 4: This day and age is like pretty tough doing what 414 00:18:19,001 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 4: we're kind of doing. Like that's why we started this, 415 00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:22,921 Speaker 4: because it's just going out of control of the youth. 416 00:18:22,961 --> 00:18:23,761 Speaker 6: It's just going crazy. 417 00:18:23,761 --> 00:18:26,361 Speaker 4: You know, there's stabbing every single day, Like you hear 418 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,241 Speaker 4: something on the news every single day happening in your 419 00:18:28,281 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: neighborhood kind of thing, you know. So I'm just encouraging, 420 00:18:31,281 --> 00:18:33,161 Speaker 4: like all the youth just get in the gym, man, 421 00:18:33,241 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: come join us. Like I'm even charging for free, like 422 00:18:35,961 --> 00:18:38,921 Speaker 4: seventeen under, like they're for free. Just come in, come 423 00:18:39,001 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: join us, I'll pick you up. I'll do whatever I 424 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: have to do. Just come along and kind of thing, 425 00:18:42,281 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 4: you know, because you're just getting out of hand, Like 426 00:18:44,201 --> 00:18:45,561 Speaker 4: every single day there's something happening. 427 00:18:46,321 --> 00:18:49,481 Speaker 5: There's a big thing that I'm massive on. It's a solution, 428 00:18:50,321 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 5: a solution to the problem. You know, we have to hear, 429 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,481 Speaker 5: we have to listen to our young people. You guys 430 00:18:55,481 --> 00:18:58,561 Speaker 5: are a voice for the young people. And your actions 431 00:18:58,561 --> 00:19:01,521 Speaker 5: are speaking louder than your words. Just hearing you say 432 00:19:01,521 --> 00:19:03,241 Speaker 5: what you just said, looking at you and when you're 433 00:19:03,241 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 5: speaking the passion within you. I'll pick them up, you know, 434 00:19:06,961 --> 00:19:10,361 Speaker 5: I'll do it for free. Your time is valuable, Your 435 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 5: time is money. Your time you still need to provide 436 00:19:13,001 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: for family, You still need to put food on the table, 437 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: on the roof, over your head. But yet you're willing 438 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,041 Speaker 5: to sacrifice all that to make change. 439 00:19:20,281 --> 00:19:21,561 Speaker 4: I know what it feels like to be in their 440 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: position and kind of thing, you know, Like I've obviously 441 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,321 Speaker 4: had nothing there to look forward to kind of things, 442 00:19:27,321 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: so I didn't know what was happening in the next minute, 443 00:19:29,481 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: Like what's going to happen next, Like what do I 444 00:19:31,201 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: do kind of thing, you know. So I'm trying to 445 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: be not a father figure, but just like someone that 446 00:19:35,921 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: can they can come to kind of thing. 447 00:19:37,721 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 5: You know. 448 00:19:38,561 --> 00:19:41,321 Speaker 4: I'm trying to give something that I don't didn't have, 449 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: but now I know what it's like not to have it. 450 00:19:43,521 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: So I'm just I'm here for them kind of thing. 451 00:19:45,801 --> 00:19:48,521 Speaker 7: You know. We just want to put their best interests, 452 00:19:48,561 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. We have their best interests 453 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,761 Speaker 7: at heart, because that's all that matters at the end 454 00:19:52,761 --> 00:19:54,761 Speaker 7: of the day. We want them to be comfortable, to 455 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:56,961 Speaker 7: be able to come to us with their shit, you 456 00:19:57,001 --> 00:19:58,961 Speaker 7: know what I mean, and then know that we're actually 457 00:19:58,961 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 7: going to give them the right answers, you know what 458 00:20:00,481 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 7: I mean. Not the streets totally different. 459 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 5: The streets of what have made us. It's brought us 460 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,161 Speaker 5: to where we are today. So you know, like when 461 00:20:10,201 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 5: we talk of like people say to me, you know, 462 00:20:12,481 --> 00:20:14,561 Speaker 5: do you do you live with regret that? And I 463 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,801 Speaker 5: can't say that. 464 00:20:15,801 --> 00:20:17,561 Speaker 6: That's what I really can't. 465 00:20:17,241 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't regret anything that's happened to me in my 466 00:20:19,281 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: life because mentally it's just made me invincible kind of thing. 467 00:20:22,441 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: You know. 468 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,521 Speaker 6: Nothing, Well, we're. 469 00:20:24,241 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: Here now, we're now having this conversation, taking action, looking 470 00:20:28,201 --> 00:20:31,641 Speaker 5: for ways of being able to support people who are 471 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,201 Speaker 5: starting to go through those stages we've already been through. 472 00:20:34,721 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: We couldn't do this without having the life that we've lived, 473 00:20:37,721 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 5: whether it be good, bad, or ugly, and we can 474 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,041 Speaker 5: play the victim and we can sit back and say, 475 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,801 Speaker 5: fuck with shit. 476 00:20:42,321 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: You know, this happened to me. That happened to me, 477 00:20:44,441 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, and it really is. 478 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,561 Speaker 5: There's some horrific things that you know, if you go 479 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,641 Speaker 5: back and listen to any of the episodes through the Clink, 480 00:20:50,681 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 5: out of over two hundred and fourteen episodes, there is 481 00:20:54,001 --> 00:20:58,841 Speaker 5: some traumatically just heartbreaking stories. But on the back end 482 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 5: of it is some amazing people who have really been 483 00:21:02,681 --> 00:21:07,041 Speaker 5: able to you know, turn that around and basically give 484 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: their hardship in a positive way to guide others. And 485 00:21:10,681 --> 00:21:12,721 Speaker 5: you know, you speak of not being able to sort 486 00:21:12,761 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: of have family support and living on the streets and 487 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:19,401 Speaker 5: so on. What better person to be able then turn 488 00:21:19,441 --> 00:21:22,641 Speaker 5: around and actually say to someone brother, I gotcha, I'm 489 00:21:22,681 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 5: here to listen, I understand and letting them be heard. 490 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,401 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a blessing for me. I'm grateful for going 491 00:21:30,441 --> 00:21:31,001 Speaker 4: through it so young. 492 00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 6: Kind of thing. 493 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: I feel like I've there's not much I can't go 494 00:21:33,441 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: through it, Like right now, I've been through it all, 495 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,281 Speaker 4: so nothing's going to break me kind of thing, you know. 496 00:21:37,681 --> 00:21:41,081 Speaker 4: So just keep moving forward and keep attacking every single day. 497 00:21:42,481 --> 00:21:45,921 Speaker 5: With yourself. You still struggling with parole or anything like that. 498 00:21:46,481 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I still got a couple of years, I 499 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 7: think a year and a half after parole, but they've 500 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,321 Speaker 7: just canceled my supervision. That's good. So then because I've 501 00:21:54,321 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 7: been behaved for years, all the drug tests passed, so 502 00:21:56,521 --> 00:21:59,561 Speaker 7: and so, community service and everything else. So I'm off 503 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,761 Speaker 7: my supervision now unless they call me in for some reason. 504 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 7: But that's all still an issue. But at the end 505 00:22:05,681 --> 00:22:07,321 Speaker 7: of the day, it's all that comes with it at 506 00:22:07,321 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 7: the end of the day. Just give you a like 507 00:22:09,441 --> 00:22:11,921 Speaker 7: moreever rewards at the end of the day when you've 508 00:22:11,921 --> 00:22:14,321 Speaker 7: done it, you know what I mean, Because everyone on 509 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 7: any side street tried to stop you, and you still 510 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 7: just smash through and got it done. So that's good. 511 00:22:18,921 --> 00:22:21,401 Speaker 7: But it's like I said before, like you said as well, 512 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 7: with the trauma, that's what makes it, you know what 513 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 7: I mean. The trauma is what opened our eyes and 514 00:22:25,441 --> 00:22:28,841 Speaker 7: sort of now give us the opportunity to not let 515 00:22:28,921 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 7: kids go through that trauma because we know what they 516 00:22:30,921 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 7: needed when we can see the early warning science to 517 00:22:32,921 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 7: stop that to begin with. So now we're just trying 518 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 7: to stop out of the young age before they have 519 00:22:37,241 --> 00:22:38,881 Speaker 7: to go through all the shit that we went through 520 00:22:38,961 --> 00:22:42,561 Speaker 7: ten years plus worth a shit. Stop all that beforehand 521 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 7: and just give them the tools they need to just 522 00:22:44,001 --> 00:22:45,961 Speaker 7: steer the right way and just run their own race, 523 00:22:46,001 --> 00:22:46,681 Speaker 7: try their own trail. 524 00:22:46,721 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: I guess mil I've got a question for you too, 525 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: and I think it's relevant, and you know, it would 526 00:22:51,441 --> 00:22:53,401 Speaker 5: be something that a lot of people out there may 527 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 5: be questioning. In fact, those that are on parole that 528 00:22:56,241 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: are listening to the clink today or going through the 529 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: court system. Are you finding you're out here, you're working 530 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,321 Speaker 5: your clean You've just said for over a year you've 531 00:23:05,321 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: been able to prove that you're completely staying away from 532 00:23:09,961 --> 00:23:13,561 Speaker 5: any criminal acts or ways of life. Are you finding 533 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: that parole is supportive of what you're doing or do 534 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,321 Speaker 5: you still find that they're trying to be objective and 535 00:23:21,481 --> 00:23:24,801 Speaker 5: really sort of always trying to ah yeah, yeah, yeah, 536 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 5: but in the back of their mind just waiting for 537 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,081 Speaker 5: you to fuck up. 538 00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 7: To be honest, I reckon it all depends on the officer, 539 00:23:30,561 --> 00:23:33,961 Speaker 7: you know, it depends on your parole officer whether they've 540 00:23:33,961 --> 00:23:36,441 Speaker 7: copped enough shit and actually still care about the job 541 00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 7: or whether they're just doing it for the paycheck. So, like, 542 00:23:39,921 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 7: I've had pretty much shit running process since. I mean 543 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,521 Speaker 7: I've had four different ones in one year, so they're 544 00:23:44,521 --> 00:23:46,681 Speaker 7: pretty much no fuck all around me. But there's been 545 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,761 Speaker 7: two that are really connected. We've been really supportive, always 546 00:23:49,801 --> 00:23:52,161 Speaker 7: been there, stuff like that. But then there's a couple 547 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,681 Speaker 7: of other ones that's sort of like would rather play 548 00:23:54,721 --> 00:23:57,561 Speaker 7: it safe to keep you safe and keep you where 549 00:23:57,561 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 7: you're at, just to know that you're safe, instead of 550 00:24:00,241 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 7: trying to like let you move forward. So then one 551 00:24:02,321 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 7: day no one has to worry about if you're safe 552 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 7: and worry about you, you know what I mean. You 553 00:24:06,241 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 7: can just know that you're sweet and then your life's 554 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 7: done with that you can move on. So there's some that, 555 00:24:10,521 --> 00:24:13,681 Speaker 7: like even it was only four months ago, three months 556 00:24:13,681 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: ago that I got off the BUBE program because I 557 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 7: was on that injection when I got off all the other. 558 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,481 Speaker 5: Drugs, Well done, mate, Yeah, that's huge congrassation. 559 00:24:22,201 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 7: I never thought I would, to be honest, even when 560 00:24:23,801 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 7: I got out, all my mates are you're going to 561 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,521 Speaker 7: jump off and now you're out of jail and stuff, 562 00:24:26,521 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 7: and I just said, oh, sort of know, because I 563 00:24:27,921 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 7: sort of thought of that as a safety net, but 564 00:24:30,281 --> 00:24:31,761 Speaker 7: just all the side effects from it were sort of 565 00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:34,121 Speaker 7: doing more hard than good. So I just said, nah, 566 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 7: fuck it. But I knew the prople off straight at 567 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 7: the time, they would have sort of approved of it. 568 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,721 Speaker 7: They would have said, oh, nah, I think you should 569 00:24:39,761 --> 00:24:41,761 Speaker 7: drop down your dose. I think you should wean yourself 570 00:24:41,801 --> 00:24:43,761 Speaker 7: off it, or I think you shouldn't get off it 571 00:24:43,801 --> 00:24:45,441 Speaker 7: at all, just to keep yourself safe. 572 00:24:45,961 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: So I'm so sorry, just sorry. 573 00:24:48,281 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 5: I need to ask this because this is really good. 574 00:24:50,801 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: Not a lot of people will understand and know this, 575 00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:56,521 Speaker 5: So for those that don't understand, the bube is a 576 00:24:56,561 --> 00:25:00,081 Speaker 5: preventative drug that basically is given to people with addiction 577 00:25:00,201 --> 00:25:03,681 Speaker 5: to enable them to assist in not using Basically, that's 578 00:25:03,681 --> 00:25:07,321 Speaker 5: in a nutshell. Now, I get the fact of you 579 00:25:07,481 --> 00:25:10,281 Speaker 5: wanting to move forward in your life, put that behind you, 580 00:25:10,321 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: and as part of that is to let go of 581 00:25:12,001 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 5: that move forward in a healthy and positive way. We 582 00:25:15,321 --> 00:25:17,921 Speaker 5: used to talk about with method and the liquid handcuffs. 583 00:25:18,761 --> 00:25:20,761 Speaker 5: That's just what it was called, and it was the 584 00:25:20,801 --> 00:25:23,321 Speaker 5: way that, yes, the addiction was very real for those 585 00:25:23,321 --> 00:25:26,481 Speaker 5: that were using, but it also was a controlling thing 586 00:25:26,681 --> 00:25:29,761 Speaker 5: for parole, jail's government to. 587 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,601 Speaker 1: Be able to keep track, know where you were. 588 00:25:31,681 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: You knew where you does had to be gotten and 589 00:25:33,521 --> 00:25:36,521 Speaker 5: how it all worked, and you basically couldn't just step 590 00:25:36,561 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: away from the program. If you did, then you were 591 00:25:38,521 --> 00:25:41,521 Speaker 5: every chance of farure you'll go at the job you 592 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,041 Speaker 5: just said along the lines parole you could possibly say 593 00:25:45,041 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: no that I want you to get off it. This 594 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,521 Speaker 5: is your body, this is your life, this is you 595 00:25:49,681 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: trying to better your life. And this is something that 596 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 5: I think is really good to hear from somebody who's 597 00:25:55,681 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 5: lived it. How the fuck does somebody have the right 598 00:25:58,721 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: to tell you to stop putting something in your body. 599 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,521 Speaker 1: I understand it's a temptation. Then that may occur. 600 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: I understand that there's going to be a lot of hardship, 601 00:26:05,921 --> 00:26:09,281 Speaker 5: and you know your body, you mentally, physically. But if 602 00:26:09,321 --> 00:26:12,441 Speaker 5: you can show that you're genuinely wanting to step away, 603 00:26:12,481 --> 00:26:14,561 Speaker 5: you've got a network around you, like you do, you're 604 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,801 Speaker 5: involved in some great, really positive sort of environment. Why 605 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,561 Speaker 5: the fuck would you not want to see someone off 606 00:26:20,561 --> 00:26:22,001 Speaker 5: the pube exactly right? 607 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,841 Speaker 7: Like that's where I sort of get it, Like they 608 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 7: don't they want to control you with the stuff, like 609 00:26:27,001 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 7: even if I might fail, Like you can see genuinely 610 00:26:29,921 --> 00:26:31,881 Speaker 7: my heart that I'm willing to have a crack, let 611 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 7: me go, you know what I mean? Like, and I 612 00:26:33,721 --> 00:26:35,841 Speaker 7: knew that, So I just I ran it. I got 613 00:26:36,001 --> 00:26:38,321 Speaker 7: I got off it. I had messages off the clinic, 614 00:26:38,441 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 7: off the everywhere else trying to say, oh, you get 615 00:26:40,201 --> 00:26:42,801 Speaker 7: your appointment, your appointment. I just ignored everyone. I just 616 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,241 Speaker 7: didn't go. I didn't even tell my partner as well. 617 00:26:45,281 --> 00:26:47,321 Speaker 7: I waited until literally a month after till I was 618 00:26:47,321 --> 00:26:50,041 Speaker 7: meant to pick up my dos and it breached. You 619 00:26:50,481 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 7: breached you ordered? You know, no, no of none of 620 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,921 Speaker 7: my court ordered. Mine is just like under their opinion, 621 00:26:57,041 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So none of my stuff's 622 00:26:58,441 --> 00:27:01,641 Speaker 7: court ordered. I made that choice in jail myself because 623 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 7: I was getting the trouble'll say, grow stuff, but I 624 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 7: just say this, don't need to get fuck it all off? 625 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,201 Speaker 7: So and yeah, so I just waited. I didn't tell 626 00:27:07,201 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 7: my partner even for a month, and she said to me, 627 00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 7: isn't an injection coming up, and I said, you know, 628 00:27:12,481 --> 00:27:14,281 Speaker 7: I haven't had it for two months. She said what, 629 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 7: And I said, I haven't taken it for two months, 630 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 7: and she was sort of horrified. And I knew that. 631 00:27:19,001 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 7: So even when I went in and told Parole, it 632 00:27:21,441 --> 00:27:23,401 Speaker 7: just proved everything I thought, because even when I said 633 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,761 Speaker 7: it to her, I said, I jumped off my injection, 634 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,481 Speaker 7: and she thought that I'd been jumped off recently in 635 00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:31,041 Speaker 7: the last couple of three or four days, And straight 636 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 7: away she jumped down my throat and said, are you sure, like, 637 00:27:33,761 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 7: are you sure you want to jump off it, because then. 638 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:40,641 Speaker 1: You're then vulnerable. Yeah, you're in this short term space. 639 00:27:41,281 --> 00:27:44,041 Speaker 1: Will he use? Will he not use? It's going to 640 00:27:44,041 --> 00:27:44,521 Speaker 1: be too. 641 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 7: Hard, exactly right. So I understand her point of view. 642 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,081 Speaker 7: She's just trying to like cut it short and make 643 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,801 Speaker 7: sure I'm safe. I understand that. But in that I 644 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 7: can't grow, like I can't grow as a person and 645 00:27:54,681 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 7: then actually get rid of that shoot out of my 646 00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 7: life and fuck it off. So I got rid of 647 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 7: all that, and now it's been three or four months 648 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 7: off at all, no issue. So but yeah, it's exactly 649 00:28:04,521 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 7: like you said, one hundred percent. That's sometimes it all 650 00:28:07,241 --> 00:28:08,681 Speaker 7: depends on the officer at the end of the day, 651 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,401 Speaker 7: whether they actually care about your messages and they want 652 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 7: you to succeed or they just want you out of jail. 653 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 7: It's as different. 654 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank you for being vulnerable and honest here, brother, 655 00:28:17,681 --> 00:28:19,801 Speaker 5: because you didn't have to disclose that and it's none 656 00:28:19,801 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: of anyone's business, you know what I mean. So that 657 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 5: just goes to show how open and transparent you're willing 658 00:28:24,681 --> 00:28:27,321 Speaker 5: to be to better yourself and sharing your life with 659 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: others because people judge. It's as simple as that, you know, 660 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 5: and someone I know, you know for them today, the Bube, 661 00:28:32,921 --> 00:28:33,961 Speaker 5: the Dome whatever it was. 662 00:28:34,561 --> 00:28:36,561 Speaker 1: Ah, Yeah, they're just a junkie, you know what I mean. 663 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,561 Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. 664 00:28:38,041 --> 00:28:41,201 Speaker 5: That's the distigma attached with it, and you're just basically 665 00:28:41,201 --> 00:28:42,801 Speaker 5: written off as another piece of shit. 666 00:28:42,561 --> 00:28:46,161 Speaker 1: In the system. So, firstly, I feel that that's. 667 00:28:46,161 --> 00:28:48,081 Speaker 5: Massive in growth for you to be able to have 668 00:28:48,121 --> 00:28:51,921 Speaker 5: this conversation publicly speak openly. Congratulations on your progress, and 669 00:28:51,961 --> 00:28:54,441 Speaker 5: I pray to God brother, you stay on the path 670 00:28:54,521 --> 00:28:56,601 Speaker 5: and I can see it in the way you talk, 671 00:28:56,681 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 5: your eyes, your whole body language. 672 00:28:58,201 --> 00:29:01,641 Speaker 1: You're one million percent committed to the cause, Jed. I'll 673 00:29:01,681 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: throw it. 674 00:29:02,001 --> 00:29:04,601 Speaker 5: Back to you, bro, because here you are supporting your 675 00:29:04,601 --> 00:29:07,401 Speaker 5: brother and I'll call him your brother because it's you 676 00:29:07,721 --> 00:29:11,041 Speaker 5: that's it in your family and it's rare that we 677 00:29:11,201 --> 00:29:14,121 Speaker 5: these days have that made or brother since childhood. 678 00:29:14,161 --> 00:29:16,281 Speaker 1: I have one outside of that. 679 00:29:19,521 --> 00:29:22,801 Speaker 4: Exactly in need, just one or two lines around here, 680 00:29:22,841 --> 00:29:23,881 Speaker 4: and you're just set. 681 00:29:23,961 --> 00:29:26,201 Speaker 1: You know, how has it been for you, Jed? 682 00:29:26,241 --> 00:29:29,281 Speaker 5: Though, knowing that your brother has been going through these hardships, 683 00:29:29,441 --> 00:29:32,841 Speaker 5: you're here trying to support him, uplift him, keep him 684 00:29:32,881 --> 00:29:37,241 Speaker 5: safe and let him know that he's not alone. But yet, 685 00:29:37,481 --> 00:29:39,641 Speaker 5: you know, we can't deny that there's politics around all 686 00:29:39,641 --> 00:29:44,721 Speaker 5: this stuff because one you technically could be consorting. Two 687 00:29:45,361 --> 00:29:47,321 Speaker 5: is it okay by a parole for her? You know 688 00:29:47,441 --> 00:29:52,441 Speaker 5: mylow to be involved with ex criminal Jed and others 689 00:29:52,561 --> 00:29:55,521 Speaker 5: like minded that are in a really beautiful and organic 690 00:29:55,601 --> 00:29:59,361 Speaker 5: space that's bringing positivity to the community. But let's not 691 00:29:59,441 --> 00:30:03,161 Speaker 5: you know, step away from their views. You're meant to fail. 692 00:30:03,201 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: We're a statistic, We're not meant to see seed. 693 00:30:06,321 --> 00:30:06,401 Speaker 6: Now. 694 00:30:06,561 --> 00:30:08,321 Speaker 4: We just show who we are kind of at the 695 00:30:08,361 --> 00:30:10,001 Speaker 4: end of the day, we show what we can get through. 696 00:30:10,081 --> 00:30:11,921 Speaker 4: We'll climb out of anything, you know, throw the world 697 00:30:11,921 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 4: at us and we'll get through it kind of thing. 698 00:30:13,281 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: You know, You've got to. 699 00:30:14,201 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: Accept the hatred that's going to come with it, and 700 00:30:16,241 --> 00:30:18,561 Speaker 4: that's not going to go away ever, So you just 701 00:30:18,601 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: got to accept and just eat off it kind of 702 00:30:20,481 --> 00:30:22,561 Speaker 4: thing and make you fucking want more because of that 703 00:30:22,641 --> 00:30:23,201 Speaker 4: kind of thing, you. 704 00:30:23,121 --> 00:30:25,081 Speaker 1: Know, So we just eat it hard. 705 00:30:25,161 --> 00:30:26,841 Speaker 5: It is hard, isn't it, because you sort of get 706 00:30:26,841 --> 00:30:30,841 Speaker 5: to that point and it's like, at what stage will 707 00:30:30,881 --> 00:30:37,161 Speaker 5: people just fucking appreciate that I'm changing the ways I'm having. 708 00:30:38,281 --> 00:30:41,281 Speaker 4: And hating until they eventually jump on kind of thing, 709 00:30:41,281 --> 00:30:42,721 Speaker 4: you know, because they see it's doing good. 710 00:30:42,721 --> 00:30:45,161 Speaker 6: They see who we are or who were becoming kind 711 00:30:45,161 --> 00:30:45,561 Speaker 6: of thing. You know. 712 00:30:45,601 --> 00:30:47,761 Speaker 4: We've like me and myself, I've been in jail myself 713 00:30:47,761 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: as well, so I've been blessed with good pro officers. 714 00:30:50,721 --> 00:30:52,841 Speaker 4: I've had some good pro officers that have helped me out. 715 00:30:52,881 --> 00:30:55,561 Speaker 4: I've had about four as well on ICY at the 716 00:30:55,601 --> 00:30:58,041 Speaker 4: moment as we speak. So I'm still doing community service, 717 00:30:58,081 --> 00:31:00,281 Speaker 4: still doing all that shit, but at the same time, 718 00:31:00,321 --> 00:31:01,681 Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get ahead of life. 719 00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:03,161 Speaker 6: If you don't make a move, you're not going to 720 00:31:03,161 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 6: get anywhere. Enoughing changes on this huge change kind of thing. 721 00:31:05,481 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's a reality in it may like even myself, 722 00:31:09,481 --> 00:31:11,721 Speaker 5: you know, sixteen years ago and I'm dragged back into 723 00:31:11,761 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: something I've been fighting for five years. And you know, 724 00:31:14,041 --> 00:31:15,641 Speaker 5: do we sit back and do we just go fuck 725 00:31:15,721 --> 00:31:17,921 Speaker 5: the systems against us and you know we give up? 726 00:31:18,041 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 5: Or do we just say okay, we embrace it and 727 00:31:20,481 --> 00:31:23,041 Speaker 5: we just go You know what, this is making me stronger, 728 00:31:23,121 --> 00:31:25,121 Speaker 5: it's making me hungrier, It's making me want to be 729 00:31:25,161 --> 00:31:27,481 Speaker 5: the best I can be, and a big fuck you 730 00:31:27,521 --> 00:31:30,081 Speaker 5: to the system in respect, I don't say that in 731 00:31:30,081 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: an aggressive way that I'm saying fuck you, I can change, 732 00:31:33,601 --> 00:31:36,081 Speaker 5: I can be better. I am going to be better, 733 00:31:36,161 --> 00:31:38,601 Speaker 5: and not anything you do or anything you put in 734 00:31:38,601 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: front of me, he's going to take that away from me. 735 00:31:40,721 --> 00:31:42,881 Speaker 5: And that's not to say that our days are perfect, 736 00:31:42,921 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: because we both know all the three of there's no 737 00:31:45,521 --> 00:31:48,721 Speaker 5: way in the fucking world that every day's a good day. 738 00:31:48,841 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: It's too easy to go out there and just fuck up. 739 00:31:50,521 --> 00:31:51,761 Speaker 4: You know, you can go out there and fuck up 740 00:31:51,761 --> 00:31:52,721 Speaker 4: any second of the day. 741 00:31:53,121 --> 00:31:54,441 Speaker 1: I say that to people all the time. 742 00:31:54,481 --> 00:31:57,161 Speaker 5: I'm struggling, I'm fucking bouncing between jobs, I'm trying to 743 00:31:57,161 --> 00:31:59,321 Speaker 5: this podcast, and I know that you could just turn 744 00:31:59,361 --> 00:32:01,321 Speaker 5: a tap on like this and solve all your problems. 745 00:32:01,321 --> 00:32:03,641 Speaker 1: But what in six months time you're fucking doing ten years? 746 00:32:03,681 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: Fuck that you can go down own just like what 747 00:32:06,241 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: because you're pissed off, You go fucking cunt someone just 748 00:32:08,441 --> 00:32:10,601 Speaker 4: because you're pissed off or whatever, But what the what's 749 00:32:10,681 --> 00:32:12,161 Speaker 4: up for? What do that sohole kind of thing? And 750 00:32:12,201 --> 00:32:14,321 Speaker 4: that's what like we used to do when we're sucking 751 00:32:14,361 --> 00:32:16,641 Speaker 4: young duncunts. But we're trying to show people these days 752 00:32:16,921 --> 00:32:19,041 Speaker 4: that's not the right thing to do, you know, because. 753 00:32:19,041 --> 00:32:21,041 Speaker 1: Like you're on a clink, you can slide on that one. 754 00:32:21,321 --> 00:32:23,841 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck it up. 755 00:32:24,881 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to pay the court for the rest of 756 00:32:26,201 --> 00:32:28,081 Speaker 4: my life now because of the stupid shit that I 757 00:32:28,201 --> 00:32:28,921 Speaker 4: used to do kind of thing. 758 00:32:28,921 --> 00:32:30,401 Speaker 6: And malo's the same kind of thing, you know. 759 00:32:30,561 --> 00:32:33,241 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you like, the criminal record doesn't go, it's 760 00:32:33,241 --> 00:32:35,121 Speaker 4: not going anywhere. You can't pay someone to get rid 761 00:32:35,161 --> 00:32:37,601 Speaker 4: of it. Like I'll go a kriminal record that's twenty 762 00:32:37,601 --> 00:32:39,721 Speaker 4: pages long, and you're just it's going to stay there 763 00:32:39,721 --> 00:32:41,441 Speaker 4: for the rest of the life. I can't go overseas, 764 00:32:41,641 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: I can't do nothing because of it kind of thing, 765 00:32:43,281 --> 00:32:46,241 Speaker 4: you know. And Malo's in the same situation, so and yeah, 766 00:32:46,441 --> 00:32:48,361 Speaker 4: there's something that we've got to live with and like 767 00:32:48,441 --> 00:32:50,961 Speaker 4: adapt and overcome kind of thing, you know, make what 768 00:32:51,001 --> 00:32:54,121 Speaker 4: moves we can because you only got one chance of 769 00:32:54,201 --> 00:32:55,761 Speaker 4: this life, man, and you just fucking just got to 770 00:32:55,801 --> 00:32:57,441 Speaker 4: go out it every single day. And there's no there's 771 00:32:57,481 --> 00:33:00,761 Speaker 4: no time for getting comfortable. You can't get comfortable as 772 00:33:00,801 --> 00:33:02,161 Speaker 4: you just slip back kind of thing, you know. 773 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:04,321 Speaker 7: And now as well that we're sort of on the 774 00:33:04,401 --> 00:33:06,681 Speaker 7: legal side of things, we can see there's a lot 775 00:33:06,721 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 7: of legal ways to go around, consorting and parole and 776 00:33:10,241 --> 00:33:11,961 Speaker 7: a lot of things like that. Like the end of 777 00:33:11,961 --> 00:33:13,721 Speaker 7: the day, yeah, they might pipe up all you stay 778 00:33:13,881 --> 00:33:15,681 Speaker 7: like at the moment, were running our courses and the 779 00:33:15,721 --> 00:33:18,361 Speaker 7: police just do drives around the bot because at the 780 00:33:18,441 --> 00:33:20,841 Speaker 7: end of the day, there's no reason for them to 781 00:33:20,841 --> 00:33:22,961 Speaker 7: come in there, and they can't come in there because 782 00:33:23,081 --> 00:33:25,401 Speaker 7: there's nothing near that they come in there for the 783 00:33:25,481 --> 00:33:26,641 Speaker 7: end of the day. Where they can do is watch 784 00:33:26,641 --> 00:33:29,281 Speaker 7: from afar because that's just how the world is nowadays. 785 00:33:29,281 --> 00:33:32,401 Speaker 7: But we have no issue going through parole and doing 786 00:33:32,401 --> 00:33:34,161 Speaker 7: all the paperwork that we have to do. To get 787 00:33:34,161 --> 00:33:35,961 Speaker 7: approved for us to hang out and do this stuff, 788 00:33:36,001 --> 00:33:38,121 Speaker 7: because the end of the day, like once it goes 789 00:33:38,121 --> 00:33:40,201 Speaker 7: through a boss's desk or goes across it and they 790 00:33:40,241 --> 00:33:42,561 Speaker 7: see what we're doing and see what we're trying to 791 00:33:42,561 --> 00:33:45,321 Speaker 7: hang out to be involved in, we have no doubt 792 00:33:45,321 --> 00:33:47,121 Speaker 7: that they won't have an issue with that, you know 793 00:33:47,161 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 7: what I mean, even if it's under a close watchful lie, 794 00:33:49,681 --> 00:33:51,321 Speaker 7: that's no issue for us because the end of the day, 795 00:33:51,321 --> 00:33:53,201 Speaker 7: there's nothing for us to worry about. 796 00:33:53,321 --> 00:33:55,121 Speaker 4: Even now, the day we're handing out our brochures, like 797 00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:57,361 Speaker 4: going to all the stores everything, We're going around to 798 00:33:57,361 --> 00:33:59,721 Speaker 4: every single clop station, you've center, whatever it is, had 799 00:33:59,721 --> 00:34:01,121 Speaker 4: and in our bosus saying. 800 00:34:00,921 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 6: Look, we're here trying to do a good thing kind 801 00:34:02,481 --> 00:34:02,681 Speaker 6: of thing. 802 00:34:02,681 --> 00:34:04,841 Speaker 4: Can we put our brochures up in your clop shop 803 00:34:04,921 --> 00:34:09,761 Speaker 4: or you center or whatever. It was, like congratulations, go ahead, 804 00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:11,161 Speaker 4: like kind of thing you know which is good. 805 00:34:11,401 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: See I love that bro. 806 00:34:14,241 --> 00:34:16,041 Speaker 4: Doing the right kind of thing normally going in the 807 00:34:16,081 --> 00:34:19,121 Speaker 4: handcuff or whatever, you know, And this is the thing. 808 00:34:19,401 --> 00:34:22,401 Speaker 4: And I've got like I was started shaking the ship 809 00:34:22,521 --> 00:34:25,881 Speaker 4: walking into the coups. I'm like, fucksd here, but. 810 00:34:27,681 --> 00:34:29,561 Speaker 1: And that's the reality. See this is us. 811 00:34:29,841 --> 00:34:33,081 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, like I've had a report every 812 00:34:33,121 --> 00:34:36,001 Speaker 5: week with us for the last five years, right, and 813 00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:37,601 Speaker 5: I'm still reporting every Friday. 814 00:34:37,841 --> 00:34:40,361 Speaker 1: They get to the point where I don't. 815 00:34:40,481 --> 00:34:42,001 Speaker 5: I don't walk in there now with an ego and 816 00:34:42,001 --> 00:34:43,961 Speaker 5: an attitude or fuck you good morning? 817 00:34:44,161 --> 00:34:45,121 Speaker 1: Can I report please? 818 00:34:45,201 --> 00:34:48,881 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, mister Simpsons, but yeah, thanks by any story, 819 00:34:48,921 --> 00:34:50,601 Speaker 5: you know, the occasional lady at the front will go 820 00:34:50,601 --> 00:34:51,321 Speaker 5: our how's. 821 00:34:51,081 --> 00:34:53,321 Speaker 1: Work going, you know how family or good? 822 00:34:53,361 --> 00:34:55,561 Speaker 5: You're okay getting through it, and you actually stop and 823 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:58,281 Speaker 5: you go, you know what, this is not a bad feeling. 824 00:34:58,881 --> 00:34:59,401 Speaker 6: We still have. 825 00:35:00,601 --> 00:35:02,761 Speaker 5: Well, you are doing the right and it's at moments 826 00:35:02,761 --> 00:35:05,201 Speaker 5: that that like you sort of acknowledge that you are 827 00:35:05,641 --> 00:35:08,681 Speaker 5: on the right path, you know, like years ago, the 828 00:35:08,761 --> 00:35:14,321 Speaker 5: last place you'd be walking even a police stay let alone. 829 00:35:14,001 --> 00:35:16,201 Speaker 6: It It felt fucking weird. 830 00:35:16,241 --> 00:35:18,761 Speaker 4: But I'm just trying to put out positive energy and 831 00:35:18,801 --> 00:35:20,681 Speaker 4: try to receive it back kind of thing. Whatever you 832 00:35:20,681 --> 00:35:22,441 Speaker 4: put out into this world, you're just going to receive that. 833 00:35:22,601 --> 00:35:23,161 Speaker 6: Kind of thing, you know. 834 00:35:23,721 --> 00:35:27,641 Speaker 4: But some situations you can't help. Like from where we 835 00:35:27,681 --> 00:35:30,561 Speaker 4: grew up and what we went through kind of thing. 836 00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:33,121 Speaker 4: There was a situations where we couldn't help because we're 837 00:35:33,161 --> 00:35:36,481 Speaker 4: just surrounded by just ship that we could not kind 838 00:35:36,521 --> 00:35:36,841 Speaker 4: of get. 839 00:35:36,761 --> 00:35:40,081 Speaker 6: Out of, kind of thing to escape, want. 840 00:35:40,041 --> 00:35:42,361 Speaker 4: To realize and mature enough to realize what was going 841 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:44,601 Speaker 4: on and how we could escape that kind of reality. 842 00:35:45,041 --> 00:35:46,881 Speaker 6: We got out of it and trying to make a 843 00:35:46,921 --> 00:35:47,401 Speaker 6: move now. 844 00:35:47,441 --> 00:35:51,081 Speaker 5: So speaking of making a move, you're definitely doing that. 845 00:35:51,121 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: And let's talk more now about that, because I think 846 00:35:54,001 --> 00:35:56,561 Speaker 5: that we've touched enough on the background, and you know, 847 00:35:56,601 --> 00:35:58,881 Speaker 5: we're here for a positive chat and the positive chat 848 00:35:58,921 --> 00:36:01,121 Speaker 5: is about the road that you're both taking now and 849 00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:04,201 Speaker 5: everyone around you. Once again, I just want to commend 850 00:36:04,241 --> 00:36:06,401 Speaker 5: you because I feel that it's a great movement that 851 00:36:06,441 --> 00:36:09,041 Speaker 5: you basically have created and what you're. 852 00:36:08,921 --> 00:36:11,361 Speaker 1: Doing, and like I say, I see your networking with 853 00:36:11,601 --> 00:36:12,361 Speaker 1: people that I know. 854 00:36:12,641 --> 00:36:14,881 Speaker 5: We've got a lot of mutual connections and friends, and 855 00:36:14,921 --> 00:36:17,521 Speaker 5: I'm you know, you've got the support of some great 856 00:36:17,961 --> 00:36:22,041 Speaker 5: I hate the user word, but influencers, some good some 857 00:36:22,081 --> 00:36:24,641 Speaker 5: good people. And shout out to Hoodrich. You're a good 858 00:36:24,681 --> 00:36:26,721 Speaker 5: lad too, brother, And we know that you're out there 859 00:36:26,761 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 5: and you know, getting involved and you know people out 860 00:36:29,441 --> 00:36:32,721 Speaker 5: there that are really got no time for bullshit. But 861 00:36:32,761 --> 00:36:35,641 Speaker 5: are really there one hundred percent to be a part 862 00:36:35,721 --> 00:36:36,841 Speaker 5: of the positive cause. 863 00:36:37,001 --> 00:36:40,081 Speaker 1: And let's just take a moment and I would like. 864 00:36:40,121 --> 00:36:42,961 Speaker 5: Jed if you could explain, because the whole point of 865 00:36:43,441 --> 00:36:46,281 Speaker 5: these seasons now is we've sort of moved away from 866 00:36:46,281 --> 00:36:49,561 Speaker 5: that whole criminality and story of redemption and which is 867 00:36:49,841 --> 00:36:52,641 Speaker 5: a massive part of where you guys are, so kudos 868 00:36:52,681 --> 00:36:56,321 Speaker 5: to you. But it's about enabling people like ourselves who 869 00:36:56,361 --> 00:36:58,641 Speaker 5: don't have the skill sets, don't have the drive and 870 00:36:58,641 --> 00:37:00,641 Speaker 5: the knowledge, and don't have the support to be able 871 00:37:00,681 --> 00:37:03,761 Speaker 5: to chase their dreams. You know, you talk about the hardships, 872 00:37:03,801 --> 00:37:05,641 Speaker 5: and that's why I wanted to touch on the politics 873 00:37:05,681 --> 00:37:08,201 Speaker 5: around all this sort of thing because for anybody out 874 00:37:08,241 --> 00:37:10,761 Speaker 5: that it's wanting to try, it is fucking hard. 875 00:37:11,241 --> 00:37:13,121 Speaker 1: But it's about keep going forward. 876 00:37:13,121 --> 00:37:15,281 Speaker 5: And you've used some beautiful words about you know, not 877 00:37:15,641 --> 00:37:18,081 Speaker 5: sort of giving up and the way that you're moving forward, 878 00:37:18,161 --> 00:37:21,441 Speaker 5: embracing it and growing from it. This is what I 879 00:37:21,481 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 5: feel is so worthy to the listener and explain how 880 00:37:25,521 --> 00:37:28,401 Speaker 5: the whole beginning of your movement, what it is, and 881 00:37:28,681 --> 00:37:29,161 Speaker 5: where the. 882 00:37:29,121 --> 00:37:30,521 Speaker 1: Direction is that you want to take it. 883 00:37:30,961 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: Oh well, look, I played footage, so already footage training 884 00:37:33,481 --> 00:37:35,241 Speaker 4: does it for me kind of thing. Was all together, 885 00:37:35,281 --> 00:37:37,281 Speaker 4: all the brothers together to train and have a good time, 886 00:37:37,401 --> 00:37:39,401 Speaker 4: sweating together, pushing each other kind of thing, you know. 887 00:37:40,281 --> 00:37:43,161 Speaker 4: But then I was like, let's just start our own 888 00:37:43,201 --> 00:37:45,601 Speaker 4: session kind of thing. Let's build something from that. Let's 889 00:37:45,601 --> 00:37:47,161 Speaker 4: build an empire kind of thing. 890 00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:46,801 Speaker 6: You know. 891 00:37:47,361 --> 00:37:50,041 Speaker 4: We started off with about five or six people at 892 00:37:50,041 --> 00:37:52,801 Speaker 4: the first session, and then as the week's going on, 893 00:37:53,281 --> 00:37:54,161 Speaker 4: I started. 894 00:37:53,801 --> 00:37:55,041 Speaker 6: A brand called the go Getters. 895 00:37:55,081 --> 00:37:58,081 Speaker 4: Obviously, so I made a page, got on the business 896 00:37:58,121 --> 00:38:00,321 Speaker 4: name registered. I've done all that. I've got a b 897 00:38:00,481 --> 00:38:02,241 Speaker 4: and done all the rest. Done what you needed to do. 898 00:38:02,321 --> 00:38:04,121 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get that to become a non 899 00:38:04,121 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: for profit as well? 900 00:38:05,281 --> 00:38:10,601 Speaker 4: Yeah, construction had construction businesses. I've done all that for 901 00:38:10,641 --> 00:38:13,401 Speaker 4: about five six years, maybe even seven years. So I 902 00:38:13,441 --> 00:38:15,121 Speaker 4: was in the construction game for a while now. 903 00:38:15,641 --> 00:38:17,081 Speaker 6: But like I wasn't happy doing it. 904 00:38:17,121 --> 00:38:17,201 Speaker 7: You know. 905 00:38:17,201 --> 00:38:18,881 Speaker 6: I'd wake up every day just hate in life. 906 00:38:18,961 --> 00:38:21,281 Speaker 4: So I knew I had to make a change otherwise 907 00:38:21,321 --> 00:38:24,161 Speaker 4: I'd just continue to hate life kind of thing and 908 00:38:24,361 --> 00:38:26,801 Speaker 4: just fucking just fuck up, like that's where it would leave. 909 00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:27,401 Speaker 6: Me kind of thing, you know. 910 00:38:28,441 --> 00:38:30,041 Speaker 4: So I just threw in the towel with all that, 911 00:38:30,081 --> 00:38:32,121 Speaker 4: and I said, fuck this, I'm chasing my jeams. I'm 912 00:38:32,121 --> 00:38:33,721 Speaker 4: going for it. You know, I'm like, why not, Like, 913 00:38:34,481 --> 00:38:35,841 Speaker 4: what are we have to lose kind of thing. You know, 914 00:38:35,961 --> 00:38:38,401 Speaker 4: I'm going at it all in. I'm going all in. 915 00:38:38,481 --> 00:38:38,881 Speaker 6: That's it. 916 00:38:38,961 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: And so the first session we had five people there, 917 00:38:41,641 --> 00:38:43,601 Speaker 4: and then as week's gone on and just gradually kept 918 00:38:43,641 --> 00:38:46,481 Speaker 4: building and building and building, which I'm so grateful for 919 00:38:46,561 --> 00:38:49,361 Speaker 4: and I'm blessed every day. And we've been talking about 920 00:38:49,361 --> 00:38:52,041 Speaker 4: criminality and all the rest, but we've had people there 921 00:38:52,081 --> 00:38:54,721 Speaker 4: that's never even got a parking ticket before, you know, But. 922 00:38:54,761 --> 00:38:55,921 Speaker 1: How good is that these are? 923 00:38:55,961 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 5: These are like even with the Clink, like I get 924 00:38:57,961 --> 00:39:05,041 Speaker 5: messages from people that are you know, screws, coppers, executives, politicians, 925 00:39:05,161 --> 00:39:07,681 Speaker 5: that you know how much they're inspired by people like 926 00:39:07,721 --> 00:39:11,001 Speaker 5: yourselves and many and my other guests, and how they 927 00:39:11,041 --> 00:39:14,601 Speaker 5: were judgmental prior to listening to the Clink. I realized 928 00:39:14,601 --> 00:39:17,441 Speaker 5: to not be judgmental and that people can change and 929 00:39:17,481 --> 00:39:19,481 Speaker 5: do have a positive impact. 930 00:39:19,521 --> 00:39:20,801 Speaker 1: With the background story. 931 00:39:20,601 --> 00:39:23,601 Speaker 4: We're all bond together and like them, people that haven't 932 00:39:23,641 --> 00:39:26,681 Speaker 4: been involved in anything enjoy our stories and enjoy what 933 00:39:26,921 --> 00:39:27,401 Speaker 4: we're about. 934 00:39:27,481 --> 00:39:27,841 Speaker 6: Kind of thing. 935 00:39:27,841 --> 00:39:31,201 Speaker 4: You know, and they're actually like intrigued and intrigued not 936 00:39:31,201 --> 00:39:35,521 Speaker 4: look up to us, but like they're fascinating kind of thing. Yeah, 937 00:39:35,801 --> 00:39:38,401 Speaker 4: so we end up jelling together and end up building 938 00:39:38,401 --> 00:39:40,801 Speaker 4: a family kind of thing, you know. Like our last estion, 939 00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:43,361 Speaker 4: we've probably had fifty to one hundred people there. 940 00:39:43,401 --> 00:39:45,881 Speaker 6: So it's just every week is a building. We're having 941 00:39:46,161 --> 00:39:48,321 Speaker 6: special guests coming almost every week. Everyone. 942 00:39:48,721 --> 00:39:52,401 Speaker 4: I'm getting endless messages every single day just about this 943 00:39:52,441 --> 00:39:54,721 Speaker 4: stuff and what's happening and where it's going to go. 944 00:39:55,401 --> 00:39:57,241 Speaker 6: And that's just for those for those. 945 00:39:57,081 --> 00:40:00,761 Speaker 5: That don't know, these guys don't have a set space. 946 00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:03,681 Speaker 5: They and quote me if I'm wrong, please, But from 947 00:40:03,721 --> 00:40:05,561 Speaker 5: what I've sort of just yeah. 948 00:40:05,401 --> 00:40:08,201 Speaker 4: We've actually we've actually worked like we're working with the 949 00:40:08,241 --> 00:40:10,801 Speaker 4: gym that we're at at the moment. He's getting involved 950 00:40:10,961 --> 00:40:13,361 Speaker 4: awesome and he wants to help us. 951 00:40:13,681 --> 00:40:16,601 Speaker 7: Like it as much as our space. And yeah, our 952 00:40:16,721 --> 00:40:19,081 Speaker 7: main place is going to be the engine room, which 953 00:40:19,441 --> 00:40:20,161 Speaker 7: if it's sweet. 954 00:40:20,361 --> 00:40:22,641 Speaker 4: But in saying that we do travel, we do go 955 00:40:22,961 --> 00:40:26,641 Speaker 4: anywhere do yeah yeah, yeah, but. 956 00:40:26,681 --> 00:40:30,001 Speaker 5: You're like taking over big basketball cords and you. 957 00:40:30,081 --> 00:40:33,921 Speaker 4: See come to you. We're more than happy to come 958 00:40:33,961 --> 00:40:35,881 Speaker 4: to you. We've got equipment, We've got everything that you need. 959 00:40:35,961 --> 00:40:39,881 Speaker 7: So we're always down for a flash challenge wherever I 960 00:40:40,001 --> 00:40:40,441 Speaker 7: like that. 961 00:40:40,321 --> 00:40:42,441 Speaker 1: The flashy just turn up and put it inwards. 962 00:40:42,521 --> 00:40:45,681 Speaker 8: Let's just have a crack, just step into the yard 963 00:40:45,721 --> 00:40:46,641 Speaker 8: and start swinging. 964 00:40:46,641 --> 00:40:47,641 Speaker 1: It's on no. 965 00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:51,561 Speaker 4: No wet, feel good session and it's just like it's 966 00:40:51,601 --> 00:40:52,521 Speaker 4: all happiness. 967 00:40:52,521 --> 00:40:54,281 Speaker 6: It's all positive vibes kind of thing. 968 00:40:54,321 --> 00:40:56,481 Speaker 4: You know, you get through a good session and you 969 00:40:56,521 --> 00:40:59,241 Speaker 4: feel good after it, get a feed, after through recovery, 970 00:40:59,321 --> 00:41:01,041 Speaker 4: go for a swim, do whatever you know, and then 971 00:41:01,281 --> 00:41:03,361 Speaker 4: from that we just end up building a connection forever. 972 00:41:03,521 --> 00:41:07,281 Speaker 5: So it's I see that you've been able to network 973 00:41:07,321 --> 00:41:10,321 Speaker 5: with other businesses that are getting involved, like from your socials. 974 00:41:10,321 --> 00:41:13,081 Speaker 5: That shows that you know, people believe in what you're doing. 975 00:41:13,321 --> 00:41:15,681 Speaker 5: And these aren't just small business these are really like 976 00:41:15,761 --> 00:41:19,321 Speaker 5: respected brands and respected people that are stepping into the 977 00:41:19,401 --> 00:41:21,161 Speaker 5: space and being a part. 978 00:41:20,961 --> 00:41:22,641 Speaker 1: Of these workshops that you're doing. 979 00:41:23,041 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 5: I think it's great, you know, because it's showing that 980 00:41:25,521 --> 00:41:28,161 Speaker 5: the belief is there across the board. It's not just 981 00:41:28,281 --> 00:41:31,401 Speaker 5: a put together thing of mates support mates. These are 982 00:41:31,441 --> 00:41:34,201 Speaker 5: people outside of the view your real that are coming 983 00:41:34,241 --> 00:41:37,761 Speaker 5: in that are happy to network with what you're doing. 984 00:41:37,801 --> 00:41:40,681 Speaker 5: I mean that right there to me shows that it's 985 00:41:40,721 --> 00:41:43,601 Speaker 5: a genuine positive space that you're creating and that you 986 00:41:43,681 --> 00:41:47,361 Speaker 5: really are making a difference and just power to is 987 00:41:47,401 --> 00:41:50,481 Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, that's the hardest 988 00:41:50,521 --> 00:41:55,001 Speaker 5: fucking thing is getting the approval, you know, the acceptance 989 00:41:55,041 --> 00:41:55,841 Speaker 5: of society. 990 00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,641 Speaker 1: People are obviously accepting what you're doing. 991 00:41:58,801 --> 00:41:59,441 Speaker 6: I understand. 992 00:41:59,521 --> 00:42:02,561 Speaker 4: That's like what I said earlier, no reas, no what 993 00:42:02,641 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: kind of thing we're going to have, means every single 994 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,761 Speaker 4: day we'll get knock back, a few, get approved, a few, 995 00:42:06,841 --> 00:42:08,881 Speaker 4: but like you just move forward. 996 00:42:08,921 --> 00:42:09,321 Speaker 6: That's see it. 997 00:42:09,961 --> 00:42:11,721 Speaker 7: And most of the time, I think the story speaks 998 00:42:11,721 --> 00:42:14,601 Speaker 7: for itself. So most of the people might come in hesitant, 999 00:42:14,681 --> 00:42:17,881 Speaker 7: and then once they actually looking after and care enough 1000 00:42:17,921 --> 00:42:20,641 Speaker 7: to see, they see we're all not that different, you 1001 00:42:20,681 --> 00:42:22,241 Speaker 7: know what I mean. We've all come from a struggle, 1002 00:42:22,281 --> 00:42:24,241 Speaker 7: we're all doing the same thing, and they can all 1003 00:42:24,241 --> 00:42:26,481 Speaker 7: come down and do a session recovery and then the 1004 00:42:26,561 --> 00:42:28,081 Speaker 7: end of the day go home feel like they've done 1005 00:42:28,081 --> 00:42:31,161 Speaker 7: something that is normal, that some structure, you know what 1006 00:42:31,201 --> 00:42:31,481 Speaker 7: I mean. 1007 00:42:31,801 --> 00:42:33,801 Speaker 6: And I tell you everyone that's come they've all come back, 1008 00:42:33,841 --> 00:42:35,201 Speaker 6: so I. 1009 00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:37,121 Speaker 1: Bet they have. I've seen the pitches of you boys 1010 00:42:37,121 --> 00:42:37,961 Speaker 1: with no shirts on. 1011 00:42:39,521 --> 00:42:41,321 Speaker 8: Wouldn't they want to come back and hang out with 1012 00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:43,441 Speaker 8: a bunch of sexy young fellas. 1013 00:42:44,201 --> 00:42:46,481 Speaker 6: All the top of the photo after the session. 1014 00:42:48,201 --> 00:42:51,081 Speaker 5: It's the pop I see, and I see that everybody's 1015 00:42:51,081 --> 00:42:54,841 Speaker 5: there getting that fund. 1016 00:42:53,521 --> 00:42:56,361 Speaker 4: Following us everywhere we go, and that just shoot every 1017 00:42:56,401 --> 00:42:58,361 Speaker 4: single day, you know, because people love that kind of stuff, 1018 00:42:58,401 --> 00:43:00,281 Speaker 4: so they want to see what we're doing every day. 1019 00:43:00,361 --> 00:43:02,201 Speaker 4: So we've got a media follow on us everywhere we 1020 00:43:02,321 --> 00:43:06,801 Speaker 4: go all that session, videographers and everyone there. We've got 1021 00:43:06,881 --> 00:43:09,521 Speaker 4: food there all the time. We supply everything there and 1022 00:43:09,601 --> 00:43:11,201 Speaker 4: that's just out of our own pockets kind of thing 1023 00:43:11,281 --> 00:43:12,561 Speaker 4: because we're trying to give back. 1024 00:43:13,001 --> 00:43:14,681 Speaker 7: Also a lot of team stuff for the people that 1025 00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:17,801 Speaker 7: bring all the pre made meals like you said, shout 1026 00:43:17,801 --> 00:43:18,961 Speaker 7: out to day with a lot of other boys that 1027 00:43:19,081 --> 00:43:21,841 Speaker 7: come just with pre workout table stuff like that just 1028 00:43:21,881 --> 00:43:24,401 Speaker 7: for everyone. The quick cover scoop bottle of water Jet 1029 00:43:24,481 --> 00:43:26,601 Speaker 7: as well buys all the just big twenty four packs 1030 00:43:26,601 --> 00:43:28,601 Speaker 7: of water and stuff to also put with the pre workout. 1031 00:43:28,921 --> 00:43:31,041 Speaker 7: So just all them little things helps a lot of 1032 00:43:31,081 --> 00:43:32,601 Speaker 7: people to come in. Bit of pump, just a bit 1033 00:43:32,641 --> 00:43:34,481 Speaker 7: of pre workout, you know, what I mean, everyone feels 1034 00:43:34,481 --> 00:43:36,801 Speaker 7: like a part. Everyone's talking, it's just thought about building 1035 00:43:36,841 --> 00:43:38,881 Speaker 7: a community. Everyone's just there for each other. And that's 1036 00:43:38,881 --> 00:43:41,001 Speaker 7: why we are people that are not even with parking tickets, 1037 00:43:41,041 --> 00:43:42,921 Speaker 7: because at the end of the day, they just want 1038 00:43:43,001 --> 00:43:45,281 Speaker 7: to build a community. Like say it was back in 1039 00:43:45,361 --> 00:43:47,361 Speaker 7: your day where everyone was a part, Like everyone knew 1040 00:43:47,681 --> 00:43:50,961 Speaker 7: everything about everyone and everyone sorted everything out in the community. 1041 00:43:51,041 --> 00:43:53,761 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, everyone cared And yeah. 1042 00:43:54,201 --> 00:43:55,361 Speaker 1: It's funny, mile. 1043 00:43:55,841 --> 00:43:58,201 Speaker 5: You know we talk of a bit of water and 1044 00:43:58,281 --> 00:44:00,641 Speaker 5: a bit of pre workout, but yet for someone that 1045 00:44:00,761 --> 00:44:04,241 Speaker 5: can't afford that or struggling that comes into your space 1046 00:44:04,321 --> 00:44:07,561 Speaker 5: with no judgement and feels a part of a community. 1047 00:44:07,801 --> 00:44:11,161 Speaker 5: Use that word community. I love that word because community 1048 00:44:11,281 --> 00:44:13,841 Speaker 5: is so strong and so powerful. And if we only 1049 00:44:13,921 --> 00:44:16,121 Speaker 5: realize that no man is an island and we do 1050 00:44:16,321 --> 00:44:19,881 Speaker 5: come together and uplift you know, it has such an 1051 00:44:20,001 --> 00:44:22,481 Speaker 5: impact when like minded people come together. I mean, look, 1052 00:44:22,561 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 5: let's flip the coin and go back to a crew 1053 00:44:25,041 --> 00:44:26,241 Speaker 5: of criminals. 1054 00:44:26,281 --> 00:44:29,161 Speaker 1: If you will like minded. Now, if they put their minds. 1055 00:44:28,921 --> 00:44:34,121 Speaker 5: Together to create some big earn, then you know, generally 1056 00:44:34,681 --> 00:44:36,361 Speaker 5: it'll be all right. If they've got arfur brain, you 1057 00:44:36,401 --> 00:44:38,241 Speaker 5: know what I mean, and there's obviously the risk, But 1058 00:44:38,521 --> 00:44:41,041 Speaker 5: flip the coin and take that same mentality and put 1059 00:44:41,121 --> 00:44:44,361 Speaker 5: it into a positive space, you know, and give people 1060 00:44:44,481 --> 00:44:47,921 Speaker 5: that network and community of like minded people feeling good. 1061 00:44:48,761 --> 00:44:50,881 Speaker 5: A bottle of water can mean so much, you know, 1062 00:44:51,121 --> 00:44:52,761 Speaker 5: just knowing that there's a little bit of a snack 1063 00:44:52,841 --> 00:44:55,561 Speaker 5: there at the end of it. That person may feel like, fuck, 1064 00:44:55,841 --> 00:44:57,841 Speaker 5: I want to go, but I can't afford it, you know, 1065 00:44:57,961 --> 00:45:00,761 Speaker 5: whatever it might be. Well, we all feel these emotions 1066 00:45:00,841 --> 00:45:03,641 Speaker 5: that make us feel like we're not worthy, you know, 1067 00:45:03,761 --> 00:45:06,801 Speaker 5: by you giving something the only that power to feel 1068 00:45:06,881 --> 00:45:09,681 Speaker 5: worthy is awesome. And we know that we're through exercise. 1069 00:45:09,801 --> 00:45:11,881 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm up at four o'clock every morning hitting 1070 00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:15,241 Speaker 5: the road nine. I'm going to play football this weekend. 1071 00:45:15,321 --> 00:45:18,521 Speaker 5: You know, I've got three games that I've booked in for. 1072 00:45:18,641 --> 00:45:20,961 Speaker 5: I'm going to be fucked up and sore, but you 1073 00:45:21,041 --> 00:45:22,921 Speaker 5: know what I'm doing it. 1074 00:45:23,801 --> 00:45:24,481 Speaker 1: You know, I love it. 1075 00:45:24,681 --> 00:45:26,601 Speaker 5: It's something that I'm proud of. And one of it's 1076 00:45:26,681 --> 00:45:28,961 Speaker 5: for a massive Suicide Cup. It's I'm an all stars 1077 00:45:29,001 --> 00:45:31,801 Speaker 5: team with x NRL and r L players. You know, 1078 00:45:32,041 --> 00:45:33,681 Speaker 5: we're going to out there to take each other's heads 1079 00:45:33,721 --> 00:45:36,281 Speaker 5: off for a bunch of it's going to be hard 1080 00:45:36,321 --> 00:45:37,961 Speaker 5: for you know, I'm going to have a crack in 1081 00:45:38,041 --> 00:45:40,881 Speaker 5: the opens. I'm no disillusion to the fact that I'm 1082 00:45:40,881 --> 00:45:42,161 Speaker 5: probably going to end up busted and. 1083 00:45:42,201 --> 00:45:43,481 Speaker 1: Broken in the first five minutes. 1084 00:45:43,521 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 8: But I'm going to hit that ball off the back 1085 00:45:45,521 --> 00:45:47,361 Speaker 8: fence and I'm going to make that first fucking run 1086 00:45:47,441 --> 00:45:51,721 Speaker 8: the best. Now you're giving people that same sort of 1087 00:45:51,801 --> 00:45:54,881 Speaker 8: feeling of coming into your space, running that ball off 1088 00:45:54,881 --> 00:45:57,401 Speaker 8: the fucking back fans, hitting that defensive line, and just 1089 00:45:57,441 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 8: getting up. 1090 00:45:57,881 --> 00:46:00,881 Speaker 1: And going I feel good, I feel a part of this. Yes, 1091 00:46:01,001 --> 00:46:01,321 Speaker 1: let's go. 1092 00:46:02,721 --> 00:46:04,601 Speaker 7: And that's just all what it's about. At the end 1093 00:46:04,601 --> 00:46:06,721 Speaker 7: of the day. Like we said, that's why we like. 1094 00:46:06,801 --> 00:46:08,881 Speaker 7: We don't mind going through the nitdy and gritty. We 1095 00:46:08,961 --> 00:46:11,841 Speaker 7: don't mind having to go jump through the cops, soups, pearls, hoops. 1096 00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:14,481 Speaker 7: We don't mind about any of that because we're down 1097 00:46:14,561 --> 00:46:16,241 Speaker 7: for the grind. We're down for the hustle, because the 1098 00:46:16,361 --> 00:46:18,321 Speaker 7: end of the day, we know it means something so 1099 00:46:18,441 --> 00:46:21,081 Speaker 7: exactly like you said, when we're doing a legal stuff, yeah, 1100 00:46:21,481 --> 00:46:23,361 Speaker 7: put all your heads together. You might get something good, 1101 00:46:23,441 --> 00:46:25,881 Speaker 7: but anything you get from that can be taken away 1102 00:46:25,881 --> 00:46:27,201 Speaker 7: in a second, you know what I mean, a cop 1103 00:46:27,401 --> 00:46:29,841 Speaker 7: full straight up, your stuff's not in your name, none 1104 00:46:29,841 --> 00:46:31,041 Speaker 7: of it, you know what I mean. It's all been 1105 00:46:31,041 --> 00:46:34,041 Speaker 7: attained legal. It's therefore anything you're building can be taken 1106 00:46:34,081 --> 00:46:37,361 Speaker 7: away in a second. Anything you build legally, it's all 1107 00:46:37,441 --> 00:46:39,321 Speaker 7: under pay per trail. Everything's you know what I mean, 1108 00:46:39,361 --> 00:46:42,401 Speaker 7: in your name. Everything what you build is actually yours, 1109 00:46:42,441 --> 00:46:43,961 Speaker 7: you know what I mean? What were you build is 1110 00:46:44,121 --> 00:46:45,801 Speaker 7: you've earned it and you can keep it, you know 1111 00:46:45,841 --> 00:46:48,481 Speaker 7: what I mean. So like that's where that sort of 1112 00:46:48,601 --> 00:46:50,321 Speaker 7: like made us help the change as well, because we 1113 00:46:50,401 --> 00:46:53,161 Speaker 7: made a couple of things whatever. Like I got out 1114 00:46:53,161 --> 00:46:54,961 Speaker 7: of jail twenty six years old. I never even had 1115 00:46:55,001 --> 00:46:57,201 Speaker 7: my learner's license before, never even had a car. I 1116 00:46:57,281 --> 00:47:00,241 Speaker 7: never had a bank account before. Like now it's out, 1117 00:47:00,441 --> 00:47:03,401 Speaker 7: I'm on my PS, I've got my bike, license, car, bike, 1118 00:47:03,481 --> 00:47:06,161 Speaker 7: Like I've done it all. Like so just when you 1119 00:47:06,281 --> 00:47:07,881 Speaker 7: get something a little like that that you never had 1120 00:47:07,961 --> 00:47:11,961 Speaker 7: before in twenty six years, that shows that like actually 1121 00:47:12,121 --> 00:47:13,961 Speaker 7: like doing the right thing actually pays, you know what 1122 00:47:14,001 --> 00:47:16,081 Speaker 7: I mean. Everyone said, oh, yeah, crime pays this that. 1123 00:47:16,281 --> 00:47:19,041 Speaker 7: Yeah it might pay that day, but in the long 1124 00:47:19,121 --> 00:47:21,921 Speaker 7: run it it doesn't pay at all. But this stuff. 1125 00:47:22,241 --> 00:47:24,281 Speaker 7: It pays like what you have, you obtain and you 1126 00:47:24,441 --> 00:47:26,641 Speaker 7: keep and it all helps you get to where you 1127 00:47:26,721 --> 00:47:27,121 Speaker 7: want to get. 1128 00:47:27,201 --> 00:47:30,961 Speaker 5: So, yeah, amazing. What's what's your sort of pillars of 1129 00:47:31,001 --> 00:47:33,121 Speaker 5: the business? You know, what are your sort of codes 1130 00:47:33,161 --> 00:47:37,121 Speaker 5: and morals within your business structure of want to achieve 1131 00:47:37,201 --> 00:47:41,081 Speaker 5: the direction you're heading and where do you see yourself genuinely. 1132 00:47:41,041 --> 00:47:42,121 Speaker 1: In what you're doing. 1133 00:47:42,361 --> 00:47:45,241 Speaker 4: There's no limits to what we're doing. It's just going 1134 00:47:45,281 --> 00:47:46,881 Speaker 4: to branch out to everything kind of thing, you know, 1135 00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:50,041 Speaker 4: in the community. We're going to base ourselves everywhere. So 1136 00:47:50,721 --> 00:47:52,241 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we have no limits. 1137 00:47:52,281 --> 00:47:54,241 Speaker 4: We're just going to keep working on it every single day. 1138 00:47:54,921 --> 00:47:57,881 Speaker 4: And that's why people come and support us kind of thing, 1139 00:47:57,921 --> 00:47:59,401 Speaker 4: you know, because they can see what we're trying to 1140 00:47:59,481 --> 00:48:01,761 Speaker 4: do and they can see where it's going to end up. 1141 00:48:01,801 --> 00:48:03,561 Speaker 4: You know, they can see the road that we're on. 1142 00:48:04,521 --> 00:48:07,361 Speaker 4: And yeah, I've mentioned that many times on my social 1143 00:48:07,401 --> 00:48:08,241 Speaker 4: media platforms. 1144 00:48:08,321 --> 00:48:10,761 Speaker 6: There's no limits to this game. So we're just going 1145 00:48:10,841 --> 00:48:11,561 Speaker 6: to keep elevating. 1146 00:48:12,001 --> 00:48:14,041 Speaker 7: You said, the structures. Mostly the structures we're both the 1147 00:48:14,121 --> 00:48:17,481 Speaker 7: around youth and sort of adults coming in out of prison. 1148 00:48:17,961 --> 00:48:20,121 Speaker 7: They don't sort of have much so so he's mostly 1149 00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:22,721 Speaker 7: handling all the youth side of things. So we go 1150 00:48:22,801 --> 00:48:24,241 Speaker 7: to meetings together and stuff like that, but he will 1151 00:48:24,281 --> 00:48:25,961 Speaker 7: speak to all the youth side of things. And me, 1152 00:48:26,281 --> 00:48:28,161 Speaker 7: as you said, just been out of jail, so I 1153 00:48:28,241 --> 00:48:32,041 Speaker 7: have a lot of say with boys whatever places, they 1154 00:48:32,081 --> 00:48:34,401 Speaker 7: all say a lot of take to my story, so 1155 00:48:34,561 --> 00:48:36,601 Speaker 7: we know how to make the session suit to them, 1156 00:48:36,681 --> 00:48:38,361 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, or the sessions suit to 1157 00:48:38,401 --> 00:48:41,801 Speaker 7: them exact people. So we're mostly focused on youth and 1158 00:48:41,961 --> 00:48:44,841 Speaker 7: people that just can't break that cycle. So hyg's and 1159 00:48:44,961 --> 00:48:46,721 Speaker 7: no gs, you know what I mean, We just want 1160 00:48:46,761 --> 00:48:48,761 Speaker 7: to focus on them at both ends, you know what 1161 00:48:48,761 --> 00:48:50,521 Speaker 7: I mean, Because the end of the day, like you, yeah, 1162 00:48:50,521 --> 00:48:52,801 Speaker 7: you're doing great things, you're older, but the end of 1163 00:48:52,841 --> 00:48:54,841 Speaker 7: the day, like us boys that are taking that off 1164 00:48:54,921 --> 00:48:57,041 Speaker 7: now you set that for us, you know what I mean, 1165 00:48:57,121 --> 00:48:58,881 Speaker 7: So like the end of the day, we want to 1166 00:48:58,921 --> 00:49:01,401 Speaker 7: be able to snap that in for the older boys 1167 00:49:01,441 --> 00:49:03,081 Speaker 7: and the younger boys. You because the end of the day, 1168 00:49:03,241 --> 00:49:04,761 Speaker 7: like we said, we thank you do a lot for it. 1169 00:49:05,121 --> 00:49:07,201 Speaker 7: The boys a lot of people to sort of just 1170 00:49:07,281 --> 00:49:09,321 Speaker 7: help them get a leg up in everything. And like 1171 00:49:09,401 --> 00:49:11,001 Speaker 7: you said, you're one of the older boys that led 1172 00:49:11,281 --> 00:49:13,241 Speaker 7: sort of let us boys look at what can happen 1173 00:49:13,681 --> 00:49:16,401 Speaker 7: apart from that life so therefore has pushed us along. 1174 00:49:16,481 --> 00:49:18,161 Speaker 7: So we want to focus on all that even just 1175 00:49:18,721 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 7: like I have anxiety from Jaiso. Even like we said 1176 00:49:20,961 --> 00:49:22,801 Speaker 7: with the pre order and the workout and that a 1177 00:49:22,841 --> 00:49:25,081 Speaker 7: lot of boys have anxiety. But even just someone walking 1178 00:49:25,161 --> 00:49:27,761 Speaker 7: up and offering you a cup of pre workout or whatever, 1179 00:49:28,161 --> 00:49:30,401 Speaker 7: it sort of takes that edgeway of talking to someone. 1180 00:49:30,481 --> 00:49:33,001 Speaker 7: It breaks the ey set, It stops that bit of 1181 00:49:33,001 --> 00:49:35,201 Speaker 7: anxiety or whatever that boys have, you know what I mean. 1182 00:49:35,961 --> 00:49:38,201 Speaker 7: But like you said, the structures we're just based on 1183 00:49:38,321 --> 00:49:40,561 Speaker 7: youth and older boys that just can't come snap in 1184 00:49:40,601 --> 00:49:41,801 Speaker 7: out of the system. But at the end of the day, 1185 00:49:41,881 --> 00:49:45,561 Speaker 7: all our sessions are all ages everyone. But the programs 1186 00:49:45,601 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 7: and stuff like that we want to get based into 1187 00:49:47,721 --> 00:49:49,241 Speaker 7: like with the government, and that once we have all 1188 00:49:49,281 --> 00:49:52,081 Speaker 7: our checks and stuff to do with adults, now they 1189 00:49:52,121 --> 00:49:54,241 Speaker 7: can't break the cycle. And of course all the youth 1190 00:49:54,761 --> 00:49:56,081 Speaker 7: justice all that side. 1191 00:49:56,881 --> 00:50:00,401 Speaker 5: So you guys will be building actual workshops around developing 1192 00:50:01,121 --> 00:50:04,481 Speaker 5: based from your obviously positive wellness environment and what. 1193 00:50:04,561 --> 00:50:08,001 Speaker 1: You're achieve even and create an actual pathway. Is that 1194 00:50:08,121 --> 00:50:10,121 Speaker 1: what your goal is? To then open up doors and 1195 00:50:10,241 --> 00:50:11,881 Speaker 1: networking through other orcs as well. 1196 00:50:12,201 --> 00:50:15,201 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely what we're working on. Like we've been 1197 00:50:15,241 --> 00:50:19,081 Speaker 4: having meetings in schools and community centers. We've combined with 1198 00:50:19,161 --> 00:50:21,801 Speaker 4: a few original community centers, so we've been doing some 1199 00:50:21,881 --> 00:50:22,401 Speaker 4: work with them. 1200 00:50:22,921 --> 00:50:24,641 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's just going to lead off into that. 1201 00:50:25,041 --> 00:50:27,481 Speaker 4: We've got some big name companies that we've got meetings 1202 00:50:27,521 --> 00:50:28,561 Speaker 4: within the next few days. 1203 00:50:28,641 --> 00:50:31,361 Speaker 6: So I don't want to put anything out there just a. 1204 00:50:31,401 --> 00:50:34,081 Speaker 5: Bit say okay, now, just just brow be humble, be proud, 1205 00:50:34,281 --> 00:50:36,121 Speaker 5: and it's in God's hands, mate, it'll happen. 1206 00:50:36,281 --> 00:50:38,441 Speaker 1: It'll happen. Your actions are working, you. 1207 00:50:38,481 --> 00:50:41,561 Speaker 6: Want to stay humble as well. And grateful. Gratitude is 1208 00:50:41,561 --> 00:50:42,201 Speaker 6: a big thing, you know. 1209 00:50:42,641 --> 00:50:45,401 Speaker 7: It's all about that children's check and just getting like 1210 00:50:45,641 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 7: the government side of things because at the moment we're 1211 00:50:48,521 --> 00:50:50,721 Speaker 7: running stuff. Yeah, we're going forward, but we're going to 1212 00:50:50,801 --> 00:50:54,001 Speaker 7: hit that ceiling eventually where it comes to the paperwork 1213 00:50:54,041 --> 00:50:56,081 Speaker 7: side of things where they're going to be trying to 1214 00:50:56,121 --> 00:50:59,081 Speaker 7: hold us back on. So at the moment, ever since 1215 00:50:59,121 --> 00:51:01,161 Speaker 7: we started, we've been pushing to get all our paperwork 1216 00:51:01,161 --> 00:51:03,881 Speaker 7: side of things, sordid stuff like that, because it's only 1217 00:51:03,921 --> 00:51:06,841 Speaker 7: a certain amount or percentage of things we can do 1218 00:51:07,041 --> 00:51:10,361 Speaker 7: until then at the moment, all of our children's checks 1219 00:51:10,361 --> 00:51:14,281 Speaker 7: are all pending, all waiting, constantly emailing, chasing them up, 1220 00:51:14,481 --> 00:51:15,121 Speaker 7: stuff like that. 1221 00:51:15,361 --> 00:51:17,081 Speaker 1: So you know what mile ife don't. 1222 00:51:17,281 --> 00:51:19,201 Speaker 5: And this is the thing and something I've had to learn, 1223 00:51:19,481 --> 00:51:22,481 Speaker 5: you know, Like I've worked voluntarily for over the last 1224 00:51:22,561 --> 00:51:26,321 Speaker 5: six years with different organizations Project Bullyard, the Rise Program 1225 00:51:26,921 --> 00:51:30,121 Speaker 5: and all these other organizations, and no I can't get 1226 00:51:30,161 --> 00:51:32,361 Speaker 5: a blue card. And the funny thing is, like I 1227 00:51:32,481 --> 00:51:34,681 Speaker 5: agree with the blue card system as a father, I 1228 00:51:34,881 --> 00:51:36,721 Speaker 5: just you know, you get these fucking sick fucks in 1229 00:51:36,801 --> 00:51:40,001 Speaker 5: the sporting groups, pedophiles and sexual predators that came in. 1230 00:51:40,841 --> 00:51:42,641 Speaker 5: We need to have we need to have this, you know, 1231 00:51:42,721 --> 00:51:45,721 Speaker 5: but for blokes like ourselves that we're just knock about blokes, 1232 00:51:45,761 --> 00:51:50,561 Speaker 5: you know, which are one million percent against anybody in 1233 00:51:50,681 --> 00:51:55,121 Speaker 5: that space. And we won't disclose our personal feelings about that. 1234 00:51:55,481 --> 00:51:57,881 Speaker 1: And I'm sure everyone reads between the lines, you know. 1235 00:51:58,241 --> 00:52:01,281 Speaker 1: All we are is a bit hardened, I guess from 1236 00:52:01,321 --> 00:52:02,121 Speaker 1: the average person. 1237 00:52:02,201 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 5: But we're just normal people that want to do well 1238 00:52:04,761 --> 00:52:08,761 Speaker 5: and others. But that blue card, you know, it is hard. 1239 00:52:08,841 --> 00:52:11,881 Speaker 5: But in saying that too, you can work around that, 1240 00:52:12,121 --> 00:52:15,361 Speaker 5: and that working around that is having somebody with the blue. 1241 00:52:15,161 --> 00:52:18,521 Speaker 1: Card with you to enable you to be able to 1242 00:52:19,201 --> 00:52:21,041 Speaker 1: still do what you're passionate about. 1243 00:52:21,161 --> 00:52:23,201 Speaker 5: And that's how we've been able to do what we 1244 00:52:23,361 --> 00:52:27,681 Speaker 5: do is I align myself with people with those credentials 1245 00:52:27,761 --> 00:52:30,361 Speaker 5: because you know, what I do, I'm not going to 1246 00:52:30,401 --> 00:52:33,161 Speaker 5: stop doing, but I have to legally do it correctly, 1247 00:52:33,321 --> 00:52:35,841 Speaker 5: and as do you guys, and we want to do 1248 00:52:35,921 --> 00:52:38,521 Speaker 5: it legally right because you know, you don't put in 1249 00:52:38,561 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 5: all this hard work to have it pulled from under 1250 00:52:40,961 --> 00:52:42,921 Speaker 5: you from one simple thing of someone el you didn't 1251 00:52:42,921 --> 00:52:44,681 Speaker 5: have a blue card, you can't work in this space. 1252 00:52:44,761 --> 00:52:46,601 Speaker 5: Well you know what more can a man want to 1253 00:52:46,641 --> 00:52:50,041 Speaker 5: give or a woman that has truly got this lived 1254 00:52:50,121 --> 00:52:52,041 Speaker 5: experience that want to share to others that there are 1255 00:52:52,121 --> 00:52:55,001 Speaker 5: better ways? So yeah, from my point of view, I think, 1256 00:52:55,081 --> 00:52:57,001 Speaker 5: don't ever let it be a full stop and just 1257 00:52:57,161 --> 00:52:59,281 Speaker 5: you know, it's a comma, it's just a pause and 1258 00:52:59,401 --> 00:53:02,241 Speaker 5: it's just like you said, you know, do everything around that. 1259 00:53:02,401 --> 00:53:05,761 Speaker 1: And okay, so you know, get parents to come along. 1260 00:53:06,001 --> 00:53:08,041 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's sporting parents that might come along they 1261 00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:09,201 Speaker 5: have blue cards, because. 1262 00:53:09,721 --> 00:53:12,041 Speaker 7: I've already had a couple of people that said they're 1263 00:53:12,041 --> 00:53:12,641 Speaker 7: happy to come to. 1264 00:53:12,641 --> 00:53:13,321 Speaker 1: The school with us. 1265 00:53:13,721 --> 00:53:16,081 Speaker 7: There you go, yeah, so you know what I mean. 1266 00:53:16,121 --> 00:53:18,201 Speaker 7: We're already on the way to that. So that's what 1267 00:53:18,881 --> 00:53:23,041 Speaker 7: we're doing. Everything we can pretty much get until that's 1268 00:53:23,081 --> 00:53:25,401 Speaker 7: approved and then therefore we're going to have their eathing 1269 00:53:25,641 --> 00:53:27,281 Speaker 7: people with blue cards, you name it. 1270 00:53:28,361 --> 00:53:30,521 Speaker 5: Now, I want to ask you, guys for the listeners 1271 00:53:30,561 --> 00:53:33,601 Speaker 5: out there, give us obviously your point of contacts. 1272 00:53:33,761 --> 00:53:36,321 Speaker 1: How can they reach out to you? Where's your next event? 1273 00:53:36,521 --> 00:53:39,481 Speaker 5: What are you doing and how can people physically get 1274 00:53:39,561 --> 00:53:40,561 Speaker 5: involved and support you? 1275 00:53:40,681 --> 00:53:42,681 Speaker 1: And we'll add the links and so on for you. 1276 00:53:43,441 --> 00:53:46,241 Speaker 5: If people want to reach out that are businesses or 1277 00:53:46,401 --> 00:53:49,161 Speaker 5: in Sydney or where ever nationally they would love to 1278 00:53:49,241 --> 00:53:51,361 Speaker 5: align with these young fellas and what they're doing, then 1279 00:53:51,641 --> 00:53:53,801 Speaker 5: we can try and promote that for you guys. So 1280 00:53:54,321 --> 00:53:57,601 Speaker 5: give us as much information for the listener out there 1281 00:53:57,641 --> 00:53:58,601 Speaker 5: to be able to engage with you. 1282 00:53:59,161 --> 00:54:03,761 Speaker 4: So Instagram platform is go geters dot gg and then 1283 00:54:03,801 --> 00:54:08,201 Speaker 4: our emails go geters gg outlook dot com. And our 1284 00:54:08,321 --> 00:54:12,241 Speaker 4: next event is Sunday eight am at the engine room Railway, 1285 00:54:12,361 --> 00:54:15,961 Speaker 4: Central Coast. They do special guests. We have already two 1286 00:54:16,001 --> 00:54:18,281 Speaker 4: special guests coming. We might have a few more, but 1287 00:54:18,321 --> 00:54:23,161 Speaker 4: I'll keep that quiet for now. Of course, they're usually huge. 1288 00:54:23,201 --> 00:54:25,081 Speaker 4: We usually get fifty to one hundred people there. 1289 00:54:25,281 --> 00:54:28,921 Speaker 7: Yeah, the main days we have a Sundays Wednesdays six pm. 1290 00:54:29,201 --> 00:54:30,681 Speaker 7: But they usually a lot of people have work, a 1291 00:54:30,721 --> 00:54:33,361 Speaker 7: lot of people have lives that time, so they're usually 1292 00:54:33,401 --> 00:54:36,441 Speaker 7: around fifty. But the ones on the Sundays in the mornings, 1293 00:54:36,601 --> 00:54:40,001 Speaker 7: no one's around Sunday morning, so therefore people roll up 1294 00:54:40,041 --> 00:54:42,841 Speaker 7: and we just get flooded. So yeah, say fifty on Sundays. 1295 00:54:42,921 --> 00:54:44,121 Speaker 7: Can you reach to one hundred easy? 1296 00:54:44,241 --> 00:54:46,521 Speaker 6: Wow? There's going to be more sessions added as we 1297 00:54:46,641 --> 00:54:46,841 Speaker 6: go on. 1298 00:54:47,001 --> 00:54:47,201 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1299 00:54:47,281 --> 00:54:50,761 Speaker 4: For the we're only like seven weeks deep, so every 1300 00:54:50,841 --> 00:54:53,481 Speaker 4: day we're still learning. Like, we're still learning every single day. 1301 00:54:53,681 --> 00:54:56,601 Speaker 4: Even this podcast stuff like this is like probably one 1302 00:54:56,601 --> 00:54:58,401 Speaker 4: of the first podcasts I've been on, so I'm. 1303 00:54:58,761 --> 00:55:00,281 Speaker 6: I'm still adjusting all this kind of things. 1304 00:55:00,321 --> 00:55:01,361 Speaker 7: You know, you know from it. 1305 00:55:01,681 --> 00:55:03,561 Speaker 1: Why not start at the top and be with the 1306 00:55:03,641 --> 00:55:05,641 Speaker 1: best to kick off, like you you can only go 1307 00:55:05,801 --> 00:55:06,601 Speaker 1: down from here. 1308 00:55:06,561 --> 00:55:12,601 Speaker 5: By Nah, big respect to anybody out there running a podcast, 1309 00:55:12,681 --> 00:55:15,001 Speaker 5: because I can tell you now there's few people that 1310 00:55:15,081 --> 00:55:16,721 Speaker 5: can say they've been in the game for longer than 1311 00:55:16,801 --> 00:55:18,961 Speaker 5: four years and had five million downloads. But I know 1312 00:55:19,081 --> 00:55:22,761 Speaker 5: that we have and like I'm very proud of being 1313 00:55:22,761 --> 00:55:27,841 Speaker 5: able to provide these spaces for gentlemen, like anybody, women, gentlemen, 1314 00:55:28,441 --> 00:55:30,321 Speaker 5: anybody that's out there truly having a go. 1315 00:55:30,761 --> 00:55:32,361 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask baby for you, and I want 1316 00:55:32,401 --> 00:55:33,281 Speaker 1: you to answer each. 1317 00:55:33,201 --> 00:55:36,081 Speaker 5: Of you, just one question each, because what we do 1318 00:55:36,641 --> 00:55:38,881 Speaker 5: within the Clink now is we like to create what 1319 00:55:38,961 --> 00:55:39,921 Speaker 5: I call the toolbox. 1320 00:55:40,161 --> 00:55:42,241 Speaker 1: And at the end of each season of ten episodes, 1321 00:55:42,281 --> 00:55:46,601 Speaker 1: there's two answers from each guest and that leaves twenty 1322 00:55:47,281 --> 00:55:50,041 Speaker 1: tools in a box for somebody who's listened to all 1323 00:55:50,081 --> 00:55:52,041 Speaker 1: the episodes to then try and be the best they 1324 00:55:52,081 --> 00:55:54,401 Speaker 1: can be in their life and achieve their goals through 1325 00:55:54,681 --> 00:55:55,401 Speaker 1: what you're doing. 1326 00:55:56,601 --> 00:55:59,841 Speaker 5: Give us Jed the best way of overcoming I guess 1327 00:56:00,361 --> 00:56:03,521 Speaker 5: the rejections and the negativities and the naysayers. What is 1328 00:56:03,601 --> 00:56:07,401 Speaker 5: your advice and then my low what it's like to 1329 00:56:07,561 --> 00:56:11,841 Speaker 5: feel that success and how to maintain that feeling of 1330 00:56:12,041 --> 00:56:15,441 Speaker 5: that high, that natural high, that positive and that success. 1331 00:56:15,081 --> 00:56:16,521 Speaker 1: From what your actions are doing. 1332 00:56:17,321 --> 00:56:19,081 Speaker 4: Everything's in the in the head, like it's all a 1333 00:56:19,121 --> 00:56:21,641 Speaker 4: mental game. Change your perspective and how you look at 1334 00:56:21,681 --> 00:56:24,521 Speaker 4: things kind of thing, you know. Use that negativity, use it, 1335 00:56:24,641 --> 00:56:26,161 Speaker 4: turn it into a positive and eat off it. 1336 00:56:26,681 --> 00:56:28,801 Speaker 6: Make it, make you invincible, make it make you a 1337 00:56:28,881 --> 00:56:30,001 Speaker 6: stronger person kind of thing, you know. 1338 00:56:30,081 --> 00:56:33,481 Speaker 4: And whatever's going to be thrown at you negative, it'sly 1339 00:56:33,961 --> 00:56:35,721 Speaker 4: it's just going to make you do a bigger person 1340 00:56:35,841 --> 00:56:38,081 Speaker 4: kind of thing, you know. So just keep going every 1341 00:56:38,121 --> 00:56:40,361 Speaker 4: single day, don't give up, and just keep going at it. 1342 00:56:40,841 --> 00:56:44,201 Speaker 6: The world jewels. There's no limits to this, so amen 1343 00:56:44,281 --> 00:56:44,441 Speaker 6: to that. 1344 00:56:44,561 --> 00:56:47,161 Speaker 7: Brother with me, It's just about making the steps. So 1345 00:56:47,361 --> 00:56:49,081 Speaker 7: like I spoke about it for years, Oh yeah, I 1346 00:56:49,081 --> 00:56:51,321 Speaker 7: want to change. I wanted to start, but really in 1347 00:56:51,361 --> 00:56:52,601 Speaker 7: my head I was thinking about the next high. And 1348 00:56:52,601 --> 00:56:55,081 Speaker 7: that's all about just taking that next step. Just actually 1349 00:56:55,121 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 7: do an next A lot of people go what should 1350 00:56:56,481 --> 00:56:58,481 Speaker 7: I do to help myself or what this? Just got 1351 00:56:58,561 --> 00:57:01,161 Speaker 7: to take that step and just make it no matter what, 1352 00:57:01,321 --> 00:57:03,161 Speaker 7: and just run it, you know what I mean. Don't 1353 00:57:03,201 --> 00:57:04,961 Speaker 7: take it all that once, take little bits and pieces, 1354 00:57:05,121 --> 00:57:06,601 Speaker 7: like like I said, I had to give up drugs 1355 00:57:06,641 --> 00:57:09,401 Speaker 7: and then get on injections or just keep going because 1356 00:57:09,441 --> 00:57:11,201 Speaker 7: the end of the time, it just keeps coming through. 1357 00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:14,201 Speaker 7: But after all that, I made the whole decision and 1358 00:57:14,281 --> 00:57:16,201 Speaker 7: then it got done. And then once you get that high, 1359 00:57:16,241 --> 00:57:18,281 Speaker 7: and once you get that thing done, that's just it. 1360 00:57:18,561 --> 00:57:21,601 Speaker 7: You're unstoppable after that because it's a better feeling to 1361 00:57:21,881 --> 00:57:23,961 Speaker 7: any drugs or any crime you'll ever get. Like once 1362 00:57:24,041 --> 00:57:26,601 Speaker 7: you actually see it and you see what the benefits 1363 00:57:26,641 --> 00:57:28,481 Speaker 7: you breathed and that, you know what I mean, everyone 1364 00:57:28,521 --> 00:57:30,121 Speaker 7: approves of it, you know what I mean, the police, 1365 00:57:30,161 --> 00:57:32,721 Speaker 7: you found me, the government, anyone on the street, you 1366 00:57:32,761 --> 00:57:33,961 Speaker 7: can approve of it. At the end of the day, 1367 00:57:34,321 --> 00:57:36,161 Speaker 7: you can say that you earned it and you don't it. 1368 00:57:36,241 --> 00:57:38,241 Speaker 7: Just have hard work and off your own back and 1369 00:57:38,361 --> 00:57:40,161 Speaker 7: that's all that needs. Like, you don't need anything to 1370 00:57:40,201 --> 00:57:41,521 Speaker 7: come with it. That's all you need. 1371 00:57:42,681 --> 00:57:44,761 Speaker 5: Love that mate, And to be honest with you, you know, 1372 00:57:45,041 --> 00:57:47,961 Speaker 5: like at the end of the day, what a high, 1373 00:57:48,321 --> 00:57:50,721 Speaker 5: What a natural high to be helping people and feeling 1374 00:57:50,761 --> 00:57:51,481 Speaker 5: good and worthy. 1375 00:57:51,521 --> 00:57:54,401 Speaker 1: And I guess you looking in the mirror each day 1376 00:57:54,521 --> 00:57:55,161 Speaker 1: knowing that you're not. 1377 00:57:55,281 --> 00:57:57,401 Speaker 5: Chasing that next smoke or that next shot, but you're 1378 00:57:57,401 --> 00:58:00,281 Speaker 5: actually chasing that next session of networking with people, in 1379 00:58:00,361 --> 00:58:03,441 Speaker 5: that next meeting and that next you know, maybe or 1380 00:58:03,521 --> 00:58:06,201 Speaker 5: maybe not, you know, living on that edge of the unknown, 1381 00:58:06,201 --> 00:58:08,161 Speaker 5: because it is unknown. Every time, like you said, you're 1382 00:58:08,161 --> 00:58:10,041 Speaker 5: going and you're knocking on doors something, you get knocked 1383 00:58:10,041 --> 00:58:11,961 Speaker 5: back from something. But you're going in there with that 1384 00:58:12,081 --> 00:58:14,681 Speaker 5: positive hope that that HiT's going to be a high. 1385 00:58:15,161 --> 00:58:17,281 Speaker 5: But at the same time you're not naive to the 1386 00:58:17,361 --> 00:58:19,681 Speaker 5: fact that if it's not what you want, then you 1387 00:58:19,761 --> 00:58:23,361 Speaker 5: will sort of accept that and embrace that and move forward. Look, 1388 00:58:23,641 --> 00:58:25,361 Speaker 5: I just want to say that if any way, shape 1389 00:58:25,401 --> 00:58:26,761 Speaker 5: or form we can support. 1390 00:58:26,441 --> 00:58:29,321 Speaker 1: You guys, we will. I'm proud to have yous on. 1391 00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:32,041 Speaker 5: I love to see change and off the back of 1392 00:58:32,281 --> 00:58:35,761 Speaker 5: you know, some great positive work that myself and Jeremy 1393 00:58:35,801 --> 00:58:37,761 Speaker 5: donov and have been doing with our youth up in 1394 00:58:37,841 --> 00:58:40,361 Speaker 5: North Queensland. You know, to have you guys on is 1395 00:58:40,481 --> 00:58:42,521 Speaker 5: really relevant, I think at the moment, so thank you 1396 00:58:42,561 --> 00:58:43,081 Speaker 5: for your time. 1397 00:58:43,361 --> 00:58:43,641 Speaker 1: Guys. 1398 00:58:44,321 --> 00:58:46,121 Speaker 5: These two young men to go get us are really 1399 00:58:46,161 --> 00:58:49,081 Speaker 5: out there, going and getting it, and their actions are 1400 00:58:49,201 --> 00:58:50,521 Speaker 5: speaking louder than their words. 1401 00:58:51,521 --> 00:58:53,441 Speaker 1: I think these guys need to start taking booking. 1402 00:58:53,521 --> 00:58:55,361 Speaker 5: So if you're getting over one hundred people, it's going 1403 00:58:55,401 --> 00:58:57,201 Speaker 5: to be fucking busy, and I wouldn't like to be 1404 00:58:57,281 --> 00:58:57,841 Speaker 5: one of those. 1405 00:58:57,721 --> 00:59:00,201 Speaker 1: People that missed out. So we're all in the work, 1406 00:59:00,281 --> 00:59:03,641 Speaker 1: you know, just keep smashing it and look, thank you 1407 00:59:03,761 --> 00:59:05,641 Speaker 1: for your time, thank you for coming on the clink. 1408 00:59:05,921 --> 00:59:08,401 Speaker 6: No, I appreciate what you're doing, and yeah, yeah you 1409 00:59:08,521 --> 00:59:09,641 Speaker 6: do a lot bro like thanks. 1410 00:59:09,801 --> 00:59:11,281 Speaker 7: Like we said, you're one of the older boys that 1411 00:59:11,681 --> 00:59:13,761 Speaker 7: sort of give us away to try and see forward 1412 00:59:13,801 --> 00:59:16,241 Speaker 7: and see that all the hard work will pay off. 1413 00:59:16,281 --> 00:59:18,441 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, That earthing pays off. And yeah, 1414 00:59:18,521 --> 00:59:20,001 Speaker 7: we just want to say thanks to you, and thanks 1415 00:59:20,041 --> 00:59:22,201 Speaker 7: to everyone else that's giving it us a chance, all 1416 00:59:22,241 --> 00:59:24,161 Speaker 7: the boys that we've worked with, all the boys that 1417 00:59:24,241 --> 00:59:26,401 Speaker 7: come from the same thing as us and have given 1418 00:59:26,481 --> 00:59:28,241 Speaker 7: us to show, all the other training people and just 1419 00:59:28,321 --> 00:59:30,201 Speaker 7: all the businesses and that you know, we just appreciate 1420 00:59:30,241 --> 00:59:30,641 Speaker 7: your things and. 1421 00:59:31,161 --> 00:59:31,401 Speaker 6: Go for. 1422 00:59:33,161 --> 00:59:35,441 Speaker 5: Guys, just keep pushing. It's a tough road, but the 1423 00:59:35,561 --> 00:59:37,041 Speaker 5: road's worthy. At the end of the line, there you 1424 00:59:37,161 --> 00:59:38,121 Speaker 5: have it to go. 1425 00:59:38,201 --> 00:59:38,481 Speaker 1: To get it. 1426 00:59:38,521 --> 00:59:40,921 Speaker 5: As the boys from Sydney making a massive impact and 1427 00:59:41,001 --> 00:59:43,601 Speaker 5: really changing the way that our people see things and 1428 00:59:43,681 --> 00:59:47,441 Speaker 5: the perception of what life once was to what it 1429 00:59:47,561 --> 00:59:47,961 Speaker 5: is today. 1430 00:59:48,361 --> 00:59:50,241 Speaker 1: I want a big shout out to Pod Shape. We 1431 00:59:50,321 --> 00:59:51,281 Speaker 1: can't do this without you. 1432 00:59:51,481 --> 00:59:54,681 Speaker 5: Sideways Surf always got our backs, and to everybody that's 1433 00:59:54,721 --> 00:59:56,641 Speaker 5: taking the time to listen today. I hope there's something 1434 00:59:56,721 --> 01:00:00,121 Speaker 5: worthy that you've taken from this chat, and we look 1435 01:00:00,201 --> 01:00:03,001 Speaker 5: forward to delivering another podcast next week. 1436 01:00:05,081 --> 01:00:05,321 Speaker 1: Record. 1437 01:00:05,401 --> 01:00:08,601 Speaker 2: I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable for the record. 1438 01:00:08,761 --> 01:00:11,321 Speaker 2: You ain't trying to grow down stuff for your for 1439 01:00:11,481 --> 01:00:14,601 Speaker 2: the record, live on me going all the way for 1440 01:00:14,761 --> 01:00:16,841 Speaker 2: the record, ain't trying to link, no, trying to waste 1441 01:00:17,001 --> 01:00:17,961 Speaker 2: stop all for. 1442 01:00:18,041 --> 01:00:23,481 Speaker 3: The record, for the record, for the for the record. 1443 01:00:24,001 --> 01:00:28,321 Speaker 3: Yea for the record, yea for the record, for the record. 1444 01:00:39,601 --> 01:00:42,241 Speaker 5: Mhm hm